1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Ladies, and you want experience during your football season, We'll 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: buckle up, sweet cheeks. We've got all the experience in 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: the world. This is I Want Your Flex with Dan 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Bayer and Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break down everything 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: you need to set your lineups, from position rankings. 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: To starts and sits. 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: The guys help you make those hard decisions. And now 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: let's get your flex on. Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the other edition of I Want Your Flex. 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: It's kind of a welcome back to me, guys, because 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: I wasn't here. Well, yeah, it's great to great to 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: be back. I had Mike. You don't know this, but 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: I went into to Burschinger's studio's office when I came back, 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: and he gets either the cardinal rule. He violated the 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: cardinal rule. So whenever, whenever, I all I want to 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: hear is how things went awful? You know, and I 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: thank goodness I'm back, and I go how things go 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: with I Want Your Flex. He's like, great, we had 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: some great conversations. You know. It was great because we 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: went long, which was really good because I said, yeah, see, 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: when you have a lot to say, it's tough to 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: keep it in a succinct sort of time frame. But 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: I kid because I care. But it sounds like you 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: guys had fun. Lass. 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think you're better at being mindful of like 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: we just ramble, So we need you to keep us 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: in check. 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 3: Dan, I do have to stop watch going. 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: I do have that going that And I mean obviously 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: you know when when it's a three man and weave, 31 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: you know there's there's the Hey, you guys haven't considered this, 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: like also need that third voice. So we did miss it. 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: I mean there's no question about it. I know you 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: didn't want to come back. You were frolicking in green Field. 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: I did. The fall was great in Wisconsin, had a 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: great couple of days back through the football around on 37 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: a nice, crisp, fifty four degree afternoon with the sun shining. 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was on point. And then we 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: ended up watching some football and thanks to Mike Harmon 40 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: for his generosity in helping out with that with his 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: Sunday ticket availability. My cousins were head over heels, especially 42 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: the thirteen year old because number one, they live out 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 3: the country. Okay, so you know there's not that it's 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: not that it's like in the eighties when cable didn't 45 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: go out to the country and you only have a satellite. 46 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: But my cousin was like, he had no idea what 47 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: it was like with all the games going on at 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 3: one time, and so when you had that, and yet 49 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: you know, the Packer game was the main game on 50 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: that they had on the big TV. But he also 51 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: likes the Chiefs because you know, I mean, when you're thirteen, 52 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: who wouldn't now, right, as they're always winning, and so 53 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: Chiefs Chargers was on one TV and his brother likes 54 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: to cheer for the Chargers as well, so they were 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: going at it. So was it awesome? Tome, I missed 56 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: you guys. I'm glad the episodes went great, but it's uh, 57 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: it was a good time home for sure. 58 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: It's great. 59 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: Man. 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: I saw the video of the what did you did? 61 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: You have a bunch of buffering issues for week eight though, 62 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: because it seemed like there were a lot of a 63 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: lot of issues going on. 64 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, there were. That's that's that's the problem with the 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: Jets and Giants. Maybe they were the ones to cause it. 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: My goodness, what crap vest that was my god? And 67 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: then of course I had to actually talk about that 68 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: terrible game with my partner Jason Smith on air on 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: Monday night, so that that was not good for business 70 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: for me, Like this game doesn't deserve a second look 71 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: at all. Yeah, they won great, That game sucked. 72 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: The most amazing thing about that game is I had 73 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: a couple shares of Darren Waller, and of course Darren 74 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: Waller left the game with an injury like end of 75 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: first early second somewhere around there one catch for four 76 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: yards that ended up being tied for the team lead 77 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: and receiving yards. Crazy game, and was actually more than 78 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: half of the team receiving yards for the game, because 79 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: I believe it was Matt Brida or no. Matt Brida 80 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: had four yards and then Darius Slayton had negative one 81 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: and so seven total receiving yards for the New York 82 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: Giants in that game. So good job, Darren, carrying your 83 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: weight got over half of their yards in that. 84 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: I curry favor to the Saquon Barkley three reception, zero yards. 85 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: That's good. Now that little wing it out and watch 86 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: them get attacked immediately. Boy, what a man. I look 87 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: like the Raiders on Monday Night not much. 88 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: Different, my goodness. Negative nine team yards passing for the Giants. 89 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: And the thing is is that they almost won that game. 90 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 3: Should have won that game. Yeah, yes, it's incredible. Yeah, 91 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: I don't have confidence that Zach Wilson would have put 92 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: it into the end zone and scored on that last play, 93 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: although maybe how the Giants played defense the previous stupid 94 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: uh you know snaps would have allowed them. But yeah, 95 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: if Graham Goodo makes that field goal, by the way, 96 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: who would have thought that that really would have been 97 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: the difference except Brian Dable, who was like, of course 98 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: we're gonna lose this game. It's probably probably the best 99 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 3: thing for him anyway. 100 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: But when Wilson takes that sack and Giants get the ball, 101 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: what is it a minute thirty six or one to 102 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: twenty six left and whatever, like Gano comes out to 103 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: kick the field goal before that, and I and it 104 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: literally turned to someone to go, yeah, here's the guy 105 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: coming out here saying he needs surgery out his knee, 106 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: and what does he do he shakes. Were literally talking 107 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: about this, this guy should be done. 108 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 4: Nah. 109 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: Here he is out to kick a big in a 110 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: big spot and then he hooks it. He's like, really, 111 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: this I spoke that into existence. 112 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to get personal, 113 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: but I just typed Gano Surgery and it said shoring 114 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: results for Gino surgery, So. 115 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: Well, all right. Then that escalated quickly. 116 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: True true story, true story. I'm not lying, it's as 117 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: you know. And then it had me click on if 118 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to search Ghanno Surgery. But anyway, Jets Giants, Yeah, 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: hiccups on direct TV. A crazy week eight. But let's 120 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: dive into what happened at the quarterback position because there's 121 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: a lot of news from that, starting in Minneapolis. It 122 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: happened in Green Bay on Sunday. But Kirk Cousins ruptures 123 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: his achilles lost for the year. Is all lost in 124 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: fantasy value for the Minnesota Vikings now? 125 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: Well, certainly, Well, we'll wait to see how this flows. 126 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: Right as we record this, the trade deadline just hours away. 127 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: Will they be in the marketplace or do they just 128 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: kind of sit and twiddle their thumbs until Nick Mullins 129 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: comes back. And if Nick Mullins comes back, what does 130 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: that mean? Not great? Right if you're holding on to Addison. Obviously, 131 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: his Week eight production bolstered by the fact that he 132 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: has stronger hands than the defensive back trying to fight 133 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: him for a football. But you know, we're looking at 134 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: or I guess week seven that was we're hitting the 135 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: wayback machine, as it were. But looking at Addison, he's 136 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: become so rock steady. kJ Osborne has been a nice 137 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: you know, w R two or WR three depending on 138 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: your settings, and all of a sudden that goes out 139 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: the window. Now it becomes a hey, look, look, cam 140 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: Aker's had more carries this week against Green Bay. So 141 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: maybe the run game gets a little bit more love 142 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: in terms of touches because you don't trust your passing game. Yeah, 143 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: but certainly the two wide receivers I think take a 144 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: step back. Tight end position being what it is. Whoever's 145 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: under center, Hockinson is still a guy'll get his targets 146 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: and get his production. Yeah, mute it a little bit, 147 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: but still opportunity. Yeah, I agree. 148 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: I think as somebody who has a couple shares of 149 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: kJ Osborne, it's hard for me to feel very confident 150 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: in anything that he might give moving forward now, because 151 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: even if they do acquire a quarterback, it's hard for 152 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: me to feel like there's anybody truly out there that 153 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: would be a huge difference maker where I'd feel much 154 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: better about him as a fantasy asset if other than 155 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 4: the over, Nick Mullen's throwing him the ball. So it's unfortunately, Yeah, 156 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 4: Osbourne takes a huge hit. Jordan Addison does take a hit, 157 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: but not as much. He'll still definitely provide a lot 158 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 4: of value as a receiving option until Jefferson's return, and 159 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: then once Jefferson comes back, you'll kind of have that 160 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 4: hit quite frankly if he does. I mean, they are 161 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 4: in playoff contention, but now without Cousins, it's hard to 162 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 4: feel that. They do have a really nice schedule coming 163 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 4: up though, so they should still very much make a 164 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: run which would ensure Jefferson's return. But if they really 165 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: fall off, it's it's hard to see if Jefferson will 166 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 4: continue what he does. 167 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I am not keen on that, And that's 168 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 3: what I feel bad for people who waited out that 169 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: injury and were hoping to maybe have some some fantasy 170 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: life afterwards. I think that I don't. The win against 171 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: the Niners was a great win, Don't get me wrong. 172 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: Going to Green Bay anytime you can and winning is 173 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: a great thing for the Vikings. But now it just 174 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: feels like, all right, punch wobble, get my feet back. 175 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: Punch wobble, get my feetback. This is the one that 176 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: I just I don't know how you can bounce back from. 177 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 3: And I just I just I don't have confidence in 178 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: any of them. If if somebody wanted to call me 179 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: about Justin Jefferson, I am listening and taking a lot 180 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: less than I ever dreamed of. I don't I don't 181 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,479 Speaker 3: even know he's going to be available in a guillotine 182 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: league of ours, And I don't even wouldn't even know 183 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: it to bid for him. It wouldn't be a lot 184 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: not to give you guys the hand that you're still 185 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: both alive in that league. 186 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: But I think we would all come back to that 187 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: same conclusion. Right, He's worth a look sie, but I 188 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: need immediate help, right if I'm going into the bidding process, 189 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: because let's face it, like at this point, we're at 190 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 2: the halfway point. If you're you're doing the guillotine leagues 191 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 2: as so many more people are, that it's more competitive, right, 192 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: there's there's a lot less wiggle room. Somehow, uh Bursch 193 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 2: keeps finding himself just under the sword of damacles here. 194 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: That's it sing your disco tunes, Dan Meyer. But the 195 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: idea that you know, there's not a lot of separations, 196 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: so you know the dollars you're spending. You can't make 197 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: a big bid and then still be waiting for a 198 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: guy to come back, and even when he does, you're 199 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: not sure what it is. Having Justin Jefferson on your 200 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: roster when you get chopped doesn't really do your whole 201 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 2: healthful lot of good here, now, does it? 202 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: No? Not at all. I don't would you would you 203 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: guys rather have gosh this, that would have been too much. 204 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Sam Laporta, I would go Mark Andrews. 205 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: Would you rather have Mark Andrews on your roster or 206 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson the rest of the season? 207 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: Andrews? 208 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I would take Andrews. 209 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that that's and I think port Laporto 210 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: was a bit of a reach. I felt Andrew Andrews 211 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: was the obvious answer in that case. But like that's 212 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 3: what we're talking about here, you know, like we're talking 213 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: about his value, and it's just it's such a crushing 214 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: blow to you know, not only to the Addison's and 215 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: the kJ Osbourne's who've been good, and the T. J. Howkinson's, 216 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: but just those that tried to ride the wave without 217 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson for a while. I mean, they got they 218 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: got hit with a sucker punch and their guy wasn't 219 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 3: even playing. So that's my biggest takeaway honestly from it. 220 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: Addison's been great, Osborne, I know, Scott and his targets 221 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 3: and these guys mentioned, but just the fact that now 222 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson is no longer that guy that you took 223 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: first overall, and the hope of maybe making a push 224 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: towards the stretch run is no longer there. That to me, 225 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,119 Speaker 3: it was like my biggest domino that ended up falling. 226 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: Well, because he's interesting on the large scale too. He 227 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: still doesn't have his contract and how Captain Kirk got hurt. 228 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: Not that you were expecting them to retain him going forward. 229 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: Maybe they would, right, And I'd be curious of Jefferson's 230 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: feelings of where he was pre and post Cousin's injury 231 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 2: in terms of his love or want to Not that 232 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: the franchise tag can't be the big thing to talk 233 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: over the top of all of it, but certainly it 234 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: is an interesting proposition going forward. 235 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: I think what's interesting too about Jefferson is I'm trying 236 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 4: to think of what the Vikings could do it a 237 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 4: quarterback where I would I would feel much stronger. And 238 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: the name that I think that would be interesting if 239 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: the Vikings acquired him would be Taylor Heinekee. But I 240 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 4: think the Falcons have maybe finally come to their senses 241 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 4: that Heinikey is got to start the best quarterback on 242 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: their roster. 243 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: We'll find out Wednesday officially, right, is what they're saying. 244 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: But he's got to be their guy. 245 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: It took them long enough, Like I forgot that Heinekee 246 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 4: was on that roster, and once once he started playing, 247 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh yeah, wait, why why haven't you done 248 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 4: this earlier? And Dan, you talked about it on Sunday 249 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: where Arthur Smith just kind of fed this bs to 250 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 4: the media where it's like, I wasn't a performance thing. 251 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: It was, you know, we're trying to protect Ritter. But 252 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 4: like maybe maybe Arthur Smith is finally realized that there's 253 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 4: a better quarterback on his roster. 254 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: And I don't know, there's there's a whole nother Arthur 255 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 3: Smith conversation that that Yeah, it's probably about five other 256 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 3: ones as well that we can dive into. Let's talk 257 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: a little bit more about the Falcons. The vikings are 258 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: what they are. Plus you want to get Harmon's at 259 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: take on what it was like being a Bears fan 260 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: and the heson aagent experience that he had Sunday night, 261 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: because that's a situation with monitoring as well, plus other 262 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: quarterbacks and what the heck's going on in Arizona. And 263 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: then we'll hit on some waiver wire stuff. It's all 264 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: coming up next to here, and I want your flex, 265 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: all right, hit him up, Mike, kat Swollen Dome, get 266 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: our executive producer Ryan Berschinger at Ryan Berschinger. You can 267 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: find me at Dan Byer on Fox. All Right, this 268 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: Falcon situation is real. I would rather pick up Taylor 269 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: Heineke than maybe most of the other quarterbacks that could 270 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: be available this week. And now all of a sudden, 271 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: Drake London and Kyle Pitts and everybody else in Atlanta 272 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: kind of seems to have more value if it will 273 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: be Heineke moving forward starting in week nine. 274 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: Get yourself a little bit of a bump. Now, obviously 275 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: Atlanta tied you up at the top of the NFC 276 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: South and what we all made picks before the season, 277 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: Dan Ryan, I mean, it was a it was like 278 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: everybody just reached in and pulled out a name. There 279 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: was nobody looking to separate themselves. But now you're you're 280 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: looking at a situation whereby with just adequate quarterback play 281 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: divisions there to go take Now. Obviously New Orleans is interesting. 282 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: Maybe they had their their come to Jesus moment after 283 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: all the screaming and shouting in Week seven. But yeah, 284 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: with the Heinekee all of a sudden, you're like, all right, 285 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: it may not be great, but it's better than it was. 286 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: Right in terms of getting the ball out there and 287 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: having a veterans like we've talked about with Indianapolis and 288 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew. He ain't perfect, but damn it, he's gonna 289 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: sling the ball around. And I think with Heinike you 290 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: get a little bit of that as well. So if 291 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: you waited on Kyle Pitts all this time, you might 292 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: get your reward here in the second half of the season. 293 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, like I was saying, I just it's 294 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: very clear to me that Heineke is the better quarterback 295 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: on that roster, and he's got plenty of experience. I've 296 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: always felt that he was rather underrated when he was 297 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: when he was playing for Washington. I thought that he 298 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: was more more productive than people gave him credit for. 299 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: And I I think that this is a situation where, yeah, 300 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 4: you could give a bump to all these other pieces 301 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 4: they're they're using John hu Smith a ton John hu 302 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: Smith even threw a pass on Sunday. It was awful, 303 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 4: but he threw it. It was They've they've done all 304 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: these weird things with the way they're they're using their 305 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: running backs and everything. But yeah, the passing game could 306 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: actually be feasible with with Heinik under center. 307 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: Here's the thing with Heidike, because there is a ceiling. Sure, 308 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: there is and and and there absolutely is. But I 309 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: have Drake London in one league and it is It 310 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: is awful because not that his numbers have been bad, 311 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: they just haven't been good. And anything that you get 312 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: you feel as a bonus, Like there's no rhythm, there's 313 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: no all right, this guy's working at three catches on 314 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 3: this drive sort of thing. You're just hoping and praying 315 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: and sitting there with your fingers crossed that when they 316 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: snap the ball, they don't hand it off, and that 317 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 3: when they drop back to pass, it actually is a 318 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 3: capable pass being caught. That's what it's like watching the 319 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 3: Falcons with And it's it's not that Desmon Rider looks 320 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: like he's throwing left handed. That's not the case. It's 321 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: just it's that type of passing game. And maybe that's 322 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: the case with the offense and Arthur Smith. At least 323 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: Heinike gives you some hope that maybe if you find 324 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 3: a rhythm, whether it be with Pitts, whether it be 325 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 3: with London, that he will continue to utilize that. And 326 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: I think that's all you ask for in a situation 327 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: like this. It's like pulling teeth otherwise. 328 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: No, that's it right. He's ranked thirty fourth amongst wide 329 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: receivers PPR leagues thus far and with just one twenty 330 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 2: point game, at just two with more than fifteen. So yeah, 331 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: it's trying to find a little more semblance of consistency 332 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: downfield and maybe it helps to unleash b John Robinson 333 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 2: a little bit more, you know, just the threat of 334 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: being willing to take a chance and make a mistake, 335 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: because what do we keep seeing with all these young 336 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 2: guys and we'll get to the Bears and that mess 337 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: in a minute. Still I'm asking, where's you know, Alan Williams. 338 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: Another week goes by and holding up the signs. I 339 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: almost brought a sign to the game, but I thought 340 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: my brothers might have beaten me. But the idea that 341 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: with younger quarterbacks it's all about don't turn the ball over, 342 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: don't make mistakes. And we get that right. You know, 343 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: we talk about turnovers and how important they are to 344 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: wins and losses. But you're also limiting your quarterback. You 345 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 2: brought him in to make plays. Let him try to 346 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: make plays. I mean Drake London and Pitts or two 347 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: guys that can get you advantages at their respective positions. 348 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: Give him a chance to make a play for you. 349 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited if it happens in what and how 350 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: the Falcons have the Vikings coming to town? How about 351 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 3: it their issues? So now what Arthur Smith is going 352 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: to say, Well, heck, if Jaron Hall is going to 353 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: be the starting quarterback, we just could continue to run 354 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: the ball. So Taylor heide Key, you're going to be 355 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 3: our starter. I guess what, you can hand it off 356 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 3: all game along what about Tyson Bagent, now that you 357 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: saw him with your own eyes, Mike. 358 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: Harbon, No, I like the opener, right, you throw and 359 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: get a forty one yard completion, and then you only 360 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: run a similar play once that gets dropped in the 361 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 2: end zone by a guy who shouldn't have been on 362 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: the team bus in Vellas Jones, because he's a guy 363 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: who's had numerous opportunities to make plays and has failed 364 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: to do so as a returner and as a receiver. 365 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: But somebody in the building really likes that draft pick. 366 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: But with Baigent, I mean even after last week we 367 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: talked about it on the pod. The average depth of 368 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: target was two and a half yards. Okay, he's getting 369 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 2: the ball out. And then you know the report and 370 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: I went back and watched it because I saw the 371 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: social media response as I got back into things after 372 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: watching the game live. Was Tariko and Collinsworth obviously selling 373 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 2: a narrative that was given to them by the coaches 374 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: in terms of how Bagent plays, Yeah, you get the 375 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: ball out and less negative plays that worked against a 376 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: bad opponent in the Raiders average depth of reception. Yeah, 377 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: I got skewed by those two attempts. Right, if you're 378 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: just talking about putting the ball up and going, but 379 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: otherwise it's not going to work against a better team. 380 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: And if he asked to hold the ball the extra 381 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: half second, you saw what happened. He was under dress 382 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: and misdirecting throws and DJ Moore becomes an afterthought to 383 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: what you're doing. It's a disaster, right, if that's what 384 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: you want to do. Like and Smith and I talked 385 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: about it a little bit on our Monday show on 386 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, was just the if you're going to 387 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: draft a talent like Justin Fields, let him go be 388 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: Justin Fields and work your offense to it. And I 389 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: think it's becoming more and more pronounced after watching Pagent 390 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: and certainly the talking points that are being fed from 391 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: the meetings with the coaches through through the network as 392 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: they're talking about Beagent and what he's doing on the field, 393 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: like Justin Fields is a unique individual with strengths and obviously, yeah, 394 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: you're still coaching them up to be a more efficient 395 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: NFL star. But I mean we saw the ceiling. I 396 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: mean we saw the ceiling with Pagent here. 397 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, And first I just want to slide 398 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: in and say this, it's almost like this. I don't 399 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: know if teeter totter is the right word, but there's 400 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 3: a point with Fields that you'll put up with the 401 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: growing pains, I think is probably the best way to 402 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: put it, because you know that the raw talent is there, 403 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 3: the speed, you know, the agility, there's that stuff. He 404 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: can throw the football as well, So you put up 405 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 3: with some of the bad stuff because you know that 406 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: stuff is there. But then there's the tipping point of it, 407 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: right where now all of a sudden, Tyson beagent, no 408 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 3: matter how limited he is, because he's different and maybe 409 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: does some of the things better that Fields doesn't do. 410 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: It seems like a better option. And I think it's 411 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: more of a comment on Fields and then the rest 412 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: of the I mean, I used a waiver spot on 413 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: Dante Foreman, wasn't that awesome this past weekend? But that's 414 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 3: what it seems like, like we know that Baigent probably 415 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: isn't the answer, but now it's really telling us that 416 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: Fields isn't the answer. That's the sense that I got 417 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: with the Bears. I don't know, does that make any sense? 418 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: That does? 419 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 4: Then that's that must be scary for comparis mans, because 420 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: that's the fact that even when when Fields is out there, 421 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: it's it's making things look worse for him like that. That's, 422 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 4: uh yeah, that can't be fun. 423 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: Well, I think it just keeps going back to the 424 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 2: same thing of all right, if you're going to be 425 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: a coaching staff, and this is and it goes to 426 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: fields comments before the season, right and when asked about 427 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 2: things as things were spiraling after those first couple of games, like, 428 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: it's a lot of process. This is what they want 429 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 2: versus last year, while you didn't win games, you watched 430 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: a guy who played free put up numbers. And now 431 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: it becomes a fine tuning of turnovers, some decision making 432 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: and late like that. That's the coaching part versus all right, 433 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 2: we want you to stay in the pocket. And you've 434 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: seen a number of examples of where there were four 435 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: or five seconds in the pike. Well you're not getting 436 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: any separation and the offensive line is not very good. Right, 437 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: they did their spot, you know it did well in 438 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: spots and against the Raiders they went out and obliterated 439 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: you know that squad. Cole Comett even laughing, going this 440 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: wasn't the team we saw on tape. And then you 441 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: watch Detroit do the same thing with Jamier Gibbs on 442 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 2: Monday Night. Football's all right, just run over them. You know, 443 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: golf did really didn't have to do a ton in 444 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: that game to make make big plays. 445 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 3: There is value in cole Comet No, right, I mean well. 446 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: I mean last week, you know he was a blocker. 447 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 2: This week saw more targets, but against the Chargers. But 448 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: again it goes back to Bagent. Is if you're going 449 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: to run a very rigid offense, and he showed a 450 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: little bit of elusiveness you know, on the circumstances at times, 451 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: but you're trying to play within this well defined this 452 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: is what we're doing, versus tailoring things to justin fields 453 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: and his talents and so it's it's just that curiosity 454 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: of is is what you want to do? What's the 455 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: ceiling with Baigent? 456 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 3: Sure? 457 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: Are you gonna win a bunch of Everything's got to 458 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: go right to win games with him under center, or 459 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: at least that's what I would argue, right every like, 460 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: you can't have anything go off script or you're done right. 461 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: It's like watching Pittsburgh with Kenny Pickett. Right now you 462 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: get behind, you ain't coming back. 463 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, now you're right, about that. There's but that's maybe 464 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: where Cole Comett then gets his ten eleven targets. 465 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah right, you know if that becomes the more consistent thing. 466 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: And it was curious at times given the fact that 467 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: Beagent was under dress so much, like well, last last week, 468 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: he usually Comet kept him in as a blocker and 469 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 2: it seemed to work okay on Crosby and company. Here 470 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: they got two guys, yet you're putting him out in 471 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 2: pass in pass routes and again good, good for his 472 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: stats and whatever else. But like, all right, this this 473 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 2: worked last week and and now you're trying to contend 474 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: with both Bosa and Khalil Mack. So yeah, it's it 475 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: was a mess to watch. Blessed to be there in person. 476 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: We had a good, good turnout of guys, my brothers, 477 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: as I posted on Instagram, and all they they ponied 478 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: up for some ridiculous seating, so fifty yard line seats. 479 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: Wish the the game was as good as the seats. 480 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 2: I would say. The in house production remains way too 481 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 2: damn loud and nauseating at times, and that wasn't because 482 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 2: we were on the down side of it. I said 483 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: that when I attended the Super Bowl and had no 484 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: dog in the fight. Like at some point, just just 485 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: I don't need to be inundated with loud noises every 486 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: second I'm in intended to the game. It's like going 487 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: to an NBA game. No, just stop. 488 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 3: What about strippers? Were they there this week at so far? 489 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it was Halloween weekends. I mean there 490 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: were some that were borderline, but certainly not the same 491 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: as no last week's rams display. 492 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 3: You see that verse? 493 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: No, No, absolutely did not. 494 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 3: Dude. I thought you were saying that because you were 495 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: getting married that you didn't see that, But no, I 496 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: actually believe you. Uh uh yeah, they had, they had, 497 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: they weren't They. 498 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: Weren't naked with some guy named Blue Face who was. 499 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he brought like these dancers who were scantily 500 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 3: clad and one of the yes, did you guys not 501 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: talk about this? 502 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: When I was out last, Kelly and Stafford was shalty 503 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: about it. Well, we left it to you to work 504 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 2: a little bit, Blue dam I saw something about Kelly 505 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: Stafford being mad at Blueface, and I was just like, 506 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna keep scrolling. 507 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: Then Yeah, yeah, that's. 508 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: No, that that's absolutely true. But no, great experience and 509 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 2: again off that forty one yard pass to start the game, like, 510 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: all right, we may have something. And you know, as 511 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: we predicted the games and went through, it's like, all right, 512 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: Bears will either win this game because they'll you know 513 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: STALEI ol Staley, or they'll get blown out. And I 514 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: got the ladder, you know, justin Herbert doing crazy things. 515 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: Austin Eckler is great in the screen game a number 516 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: of times. And I asked this question of Jason locking 517 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: for on the Show with Smith Monday night on Fox 518 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Is it me or do we see a 519 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: lot more? Hey, the flags on the field and then 520 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: we pick it up, there's no foul. It's like, why'd 521 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: you throw the damn flag? Or you know, picking it 522 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: up and staring at each other and or double clutching 523 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: the flags like you saw something that you wanted to 524 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: throw it and then it's like you waited for the 525 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: result of the play. It's like you know, when you're 526 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: watching a soccer match, as like or hockey, it's like, 527 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: all right, there's an advantage, all right, now we whistle it. Ah, 528 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: Now it's too long, so let's let's pull it off. 529 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's it's interesting where we're at with 530 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: NFL officiating. So there were a couple of those. Darnell 531 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: Mooney probably could have gotten up. He was not touched 532 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: after he made a reception early in the game, but 533 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: just flipped the ball to the official. Sure, so you know, 534 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: just confusion. And ultimately it was a beat down and 535 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: I had more beers than the Bears had points. 536 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: That's a win for my comment. 537 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: Definitely a win for me. 538 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: All right. So we hit on Vikings, we hit on Bears, 539 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: we hit on Falcons. They're also Steelers. Like a short week. 540 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: Can you picktt statuses up in the air. I don't 541 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: know if it matters too much to be perfectly honest 542 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: with you, but their opponent that they are playing, yes, 543 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: the Will Levis Era, go dive into that coming up next. 544 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: Plus what the heck is going on with Arizona. Maybe 545 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 3: there's value there as well. Plus Harmon's waiver wire pickups 546 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: for week nine. That's all next one. We wrap it 547 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: up here and I want your flex, all right, Welcome 548 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: back Mike up at Swollen Dome, find Bursch at Ryan Berschinger, 549 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: and find me at Dan Byer on Fox. I don't 550 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: know if you guys follow the the site Corked Bats. 551 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: That's a kind of satirical sports site. So some connections 552 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 3: through us. Yeah, it's it can be entertaining. And they 553 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: have tabbed Will Levis as Billy Jeans. Okay, that's the 554 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 3: nickname Billy Jeans. Yeah, yes, I think you think it's 555 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: pretty clever as well, So I had tipped to them. 556 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: Are you buying Billy Jeans? In the Tennessee Titans. The 557 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: Will Levis experiment well underway after a four touchdown performance 558 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: against the Falcons on Sunday and likely to get this 559 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: start on Thursday against Pittsburgh. You buying Will Levis? 560 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: Mike, I'll buy him at least for this next week, 561 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: ye against the Pittsburgh secondary. Fitzpatrick is out short week, 562 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: they're banged up. It'll be curious to see, you know. Again, 563 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: we're recording before the trade deadline. Whether DeAndre Hopkins just 564 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: had the greatest audition to go into a marketplace or not. Likewise, 565 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, are they being Are they gonna sell off 566 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: some of those parts? But even if they do, He's 567 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: gonna wing it around like it's the one thing we 568 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: came out of this. And so you start looking at 569 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: some of those guys that were on the second team 570 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: that maybe they get a little bit more of a 571 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: look see. But yeah, for this week, I'll buy Wills absolutely. 572 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I gotta give him credit, Like he 573 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 4: did look good, and especially going into a situation where 574 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 4: it was kind of established that both him and Malik 575 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 4: Willis were gonna get looks and he was so good 576 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 4: that that that never happened. Yeah, part of me wants 577 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 4: to say, well, you know, I want to hold off 578 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 4: to make a full judgment. It was just one game. 579 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 4: It could have it kind of you know, busted coverage 580 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 4: plays with with with Hopkins. But at the same time, 581 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 4: it's not like DeAndre Hopkins like fully was doing this 582 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: for Tannehill either. So I give Levi's credit, like that's 583 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 4: that's very impressive for your first game. And I mean, 584 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 4: already he looks better than I thought he was. I 585 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 4: didn't think he was very good. 586 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll piggyback on that and say, as well, with 587 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: the state of the quarterbacking that we've got in the 588 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: National Football League right now, why not. 589 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 590 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: You know, like if you're sitting there with you know, 591 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: Jordan Love or you know, any of these other you know, 592 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: quarterbacks in that situation. You know, I've Jordan Love in 593 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: the league, I've Deshaun Watson, you know, on the same team, 594 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 3: and it's I'm running three quarterbacks and yeah, Will Levis 595 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: right now, better option than all of them, even when 596 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 3: DeShawn Watson's healthy. Gotta be honest, I think he's not 597 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: gonna top what he did this past week. Sure, like 598 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: this this is to me's gonna be your high point 599 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: total for him. But did carry the ball seven times, 600 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: only eleven yards, but maybe get a little something there. 601 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: His last touchdown pass the Westbrook Y Keene was was 602 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: a great throw. And if you just throw it to 603 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins, if he's you know, still there, it's half 604 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 3: the battle. Throw it to your good players. So yeah, 605 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 3: I'm I'm on board. I just think we have to 606 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: temper our expectations that this was probably the best fantasy 607 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: game that he'll have all season long. I just I 608 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: don't think he's going to top a four touchdown game, 609 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: you know, by any. 610 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: Means no, and certainly and you know, short week against Pittsburgh. 611 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: Look obviously a rookie coming out a short week Thursday nights. 612 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: In general, we raise our eyebrows on most of these matchups. 613 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 2: I was reading a stat about the unders and how 614 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: much what is it, sixty and twenty nine since the 615 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: start of the twenty twenty two seeds. That's how often 616 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: the hundred are hitting. 617 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: Wow. 618 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: So I mean so to that point, yeah, take take 619 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: that for what it is, because that's a significant sample size, uh, 620 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: nineteen and seven this year thus far. So we we 621 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: have that, and certainly Pittsburgh we know on their side 622 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 2: of things, their offense isn't helping to push towards the total. 623 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: It's not going to be quite Northwestern Iowa. I haven't 624 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: seen the initial number yet, but it is going to 625 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: be low. I mean, it's going to push some of 626 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: those boundaries. But you look at the opportunity against that 627 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh secondary again banged up, I'll give it a run, 628 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 2: like even even if Hopkins isn't there. 629 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty six is your magic numbers. 630 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: But there you go. Yeah, I figured it. I figure 631 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 2: it was pushing. 632 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're you're pretty close with that. 633 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 2: Jeans ahead, Bill, am I buying Billy jeans? I might 634 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: actually go by something a pair of jeans and just 635 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: name them after Will and eat some mayonnaise in my coffee. 636 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: That's right, just kidding, Yeah, that's right. 637 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 638 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 4: And to your point about the quarterback play, Dan, we 639 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 4: just watched Jimmy g just completely miss a wide open 640 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 4: Davante Adams multiple times on Monday night. Like when you 641 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: have a receiver of the talent of DeAndre Hopkins, as 642 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 4: you're saying, getting him the ball is just half the battle. 643 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 4: And we have quarterbacks who have been in this league 644 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 4: for a long time showing that they can't even do 645 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: that part of the battle right now. So yeah, the 646 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 4: fact that Levis was able to put up those numbers, 647 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: I'm definitely impressed. 648 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: Packer fans, by the way, relishing DeVante Adams being mad. Sure, 649 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 3: I saw a whole lot of you asked for this 650 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: Davante in the aftermath of what happened on Monday night. 651 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: So they are enjoying it. Not much to enjoy if 652 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 3: you're an Arizona Cardinals football fan, But you do not 653 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: have the worst record in the National Football League. So 654 00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: you are a half game, a half game ahead, if 655 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 3: you will, of the Carolina Panthers for the worst record. 656 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 3: And we don't know who's gonna start against Cleveland, but 657 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 3: we know who's not going to start. Craziest thing, maybe 658 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 3: not the craziest thing I've heard the NFL. I just 659 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 3: love in this day and age of you know, we're 660 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: going to be positive. Arthur Smith can't you know, make 661 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 3: up his mind on what's going on that Jonathan Gannon 662 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,479 Speaker 3: is so staunch at as convictions that he just knows. 663 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs isn't gonna play like like poor Josh Dobbs 664 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 3: by the way, but hey, like, I don't know who 665 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 3: we're gonna throw out there. It could be the rookie, 666 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 3: it could be Kyler Murray, but I'll tell you who 667 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: he won't this guy right here, Josh Dobbs, Like, how 668 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 3: I you know, I think there could be value Arizon 669 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 3: with Arizona down the line, if you've got Rondel Moore, 670 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 3: if you got you know, Hollywood bron if you wanted, 671 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 3: you know whatever. Whenever Kyler comes back, those guys take 672 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 3: a boost. Maybe that's the opportunity now. But I've never 673 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 3: seen anything like it where it's like, we don't know 674 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 3: who we're gonna start, but it definitely won't be him. 675 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 2: After watching the tape, it won't be him. Was it 676 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 2: code for it? He's getting traded, so he's not gonna 677 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 2: be here, So this is the way to address it. 678 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 2: We saw that interesting because I mean he's in terms 679 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 2: of options amongst quarterbacks to potentially be dealt. I mean, 680 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: we keep throwing a lot of these names out like 681 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: he's at least taken some meaningful snaps. Yeah, he's played 682 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: well in spurts. The try harder Cardinals have been in 683 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 2: a lot of games. Now, obviously this was a backdoor 684 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 2: situation to make these score look a little better than 685 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 2: the game was, but against Baltimore. But legitimately, like we 686 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 2: keep talking about Tannehill and a bunch of the other guy, 687 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 2: I almost I'd rather have Dobbs than him at this point. 688 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 2: I'd rather have Dobbs than a lot of the options 689 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: that are being out there as quick fixes for Minnesota 690 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 2: or some of these other squads. 691 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 3: Also like stuck by Dobbs and then changed his tune 692 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 3: the next day, right, And usually you don't do that 693 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 3: with film study. You like, man, I can't believe how 694 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 3: bad he was, But hey, Chuck, he was a lot 695 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 3: worse than I thought. You know, we should bench him. 696 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 2: You know, when you asked me that question right after 697 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 2: the game, you were really onto something like you. 698 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 3: Just don't see that, and so Mike, you may be 699 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 3: onto something there. But I will say this, the main 700 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 3: point of bringing it up is I do think that 701 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 3: those weapons for Arizona will have value, because it sure 702 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 3: does seem like Kyler Murray is coming back. It's just 703 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 3: sooner rather, you know, sooner rather than later. 704 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 2: But that's the curiosity too, right of Clayton Tune versus 705 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray. And if Kyler Murray is healthy, do you 706 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 2: not want the number one? 707 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 3: Well, the good thing is they're bad enough that he's Yeah, 708 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 3: he's not going to win any games single handledly for him, 709 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 3: I will say that. 710 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 2: Or the fact that you've are you just want to 711 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 2: see what he does even with a broken roster, Like 712 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to reconcile that right because I brought it up, 713 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: you know, and Brshall enjoys this a lot like the 714 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: Bears holding you know, their pick. You know, Carolina does 715 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: what Carolina does. They get the win this week, which 716 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 2: is just a sloppy game, and they end up getting 717 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: the w over Houston. But with the Bears, they're in 718 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 2: the nightmare scenario of they're only a half a game 719 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: behind the Packers and they play them in week eighteen. Dan, 720 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 2: So the Bears and eber Flus in their desperate attempt 721 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: to say we should get another year, they could go 722 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: and screw this up and actually win and let the 723 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 2: Packers slide in there to where suddenly they get to 724 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 2: pick ahead of where the Bears do for their own pick. 725 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 2: How crazy is that? 726 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 3: Again in the NFL being the genius all division games 727 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 3: at the end of the year, saying that sarcastically, I mean. 728 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: You know me, I love my Let's play this team 729 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: twice in three weeks. Yes, yes, let's when when everybody's 730 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 2: hurt banged up. I mean we're at it in week nine. Yes, 731 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 2: let's have all the division games on the back end 732 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: with great meaning. With some teams, that's such a flip 733 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 2: of what they were to start a season. 734 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 3: There's no magic way to do it, but it is. 735 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 3: It is pretty absurd. Did I miss did we miss 736 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 3: any court? Daniel Jones coming back for the Giants, but hey, 737 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 3: anything's better. 738 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 2: Than Toby Baby DeVito. 739 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. Uh, I guess has. 740 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 2: Been cleared for contact, you know, to finish the there 741 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 2: so whatever that means. After that debacle against the Jets. 742 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 3: And yeah, and then you know, with Pittsburgh's case coming 743 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 3: up on Thursday, Uh, you know, George Pickens probably needs 744 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 3: to get more involved. Deonton Johnson was very involved maybe and. 745 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 2: Very involved in complaining about the officials. 746 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when when the Steelers were penalized less or 747 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 3: for less yardage than Jacksonville was in the game. Crazy stuff, 748 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 3: all right, Burst, you got anything to add to the 749 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 3: quarterbacks before u before Harmon gives us his waiver wire 750 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 3: picks week nine. 751 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 4: Just one thought as you were mentioning with what the 752 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 4: Cardinals situation there and how their their pieces do look 753 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 4: do look very strong? And this is a nice little 754 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 4: transition here into the waivers. A Trey McBride looks excellent 755 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 4: and and with with zach Ertz on the I R U. 756 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 4: McBride had what ten catches that there's a there's there's 757 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 4: definitely a lot of possibility still from the from the 758 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 4: Cardinals passing offense, even if it is Clayton Tune throwing 759 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 4: the ball. 760 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 3: The good thing too about that is you know they're 761 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 3: going to be down and so the like, when their 762 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 3: games are out of hand, you still have a reason 763 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,919 Speaker 3: to watch, You don't have to sit through the entire 764 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 3: Cardinals games, just join the second half when they're down 765 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 3: and have to throw the football. Yeah, it actually works 766 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 3: out quite nice. 767 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: That thing to have on your grade, no question about it. 768 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 3: Holly. We brought at nine targets as well, so there's. 769 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: You know it can keep winging it around. 770 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that there could be some value there. 771 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the waiver wires. Guys that 772 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 3: you want to pick up in a week nine. I 773 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 3: don't know if Billy Jeans is gonna be on this 774 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 3: list or not, but armor take it away. 775 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 2: Well we already talked about him. So yeah, against the 776 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 2: Steelers that is Billy Jeans as his opportunity. Sam Howell 777 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 2: winging it as he does, another guy with some value 778 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 2: for you, Washington. You know Ron Rivera keeps saying the 779 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 2: quiet part out loud in press conferences about mistakes made, 780 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 2: and Sam Howell was one of them. Remember, Hey, I 781 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: wish I would have known about this guy. Well, he'll 782 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 2: keep you in games again. People are reticent to go 783 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 2: alongside our run of the Gardner Minshew slash Josh Downs era. 784 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 2: Like both of those guys still available widely in leagues. 785 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: Down still in over a third of leagues despite the 786 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 2: high target count weekly. Look, all you can ask for 787 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 2: in these games is opportunity. We've been talking about this 788 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: for years. Like what happens with those opportunities? I don't know. 789 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 2: But if I got a guy that routinely is getting 790 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 2: seven to nine targets, I gotta think the law of 791 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 2: averages says that most weeks I'm at least putting up 792 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 2: a five spot, you know for you know, base reception 793 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 2: and completions. So yeah, receptions and yardage, I should say. 794 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 2: So we got that Levis was officially on the list, 795 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 2: you know, in terms of my chicken scratch a guy 796 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 2: to watch. And again we're doing this ahead of the 797 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 2: trade deadline. If Jamis Winston gets out of New Orleans again, 798 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 2: you know, say, say he becomes a guy I had 799 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 2: a shot sent to me of him in a Minnesota 800 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 2: Vikings uniform. That can be intrigued. Intriguing, right, and maybe 801 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 2: change it to that end. Also long term play, Uh, 802 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 2: if you're in a league that still has a lot 803 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 2: of raw spots, Nick Mullins may end up becoming that 804 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 2: guy when he comes back and is eligible to rejoin 805 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 2: the squad. Tight ends Birch, Gavis McBride the other one. 806 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 2: Depending on your league setup, go see if Taysom Hill 807 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 2: is still out there. Huge week eight opportunity in DJOKU. 808 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 2: A lot of people dumped him because of early ineffectiveness 809 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 2: or it relegated him to the bench. Maybe trade deadline 810 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 2: in your own fantasy league. A guy on an upswing 811 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 2: had a nice big week in Week eight, so opportunity there. 812 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 2: Darryl Henderson still available in more than a half of 813 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 2: leagues now with the Rams interesting another quarterback position. We 814 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 2: didn't really talk about a ton there, but with Matthew 815 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 2: Stafford now week to week to see what happens. Turning 816 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 2: to the run game seems inevitable. Devin Singletary twenty five 817 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 2: touches the last two weeks, not overly exciting, but again 818 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 2: opportunity if you're going to get double digit touches to 819 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 2: go make some hay. We talked about Kyler Murray coming back. 820 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 2: He's available in more than half of leagues, so a 821 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 2: stash and stash and wait. Look because depending on your 822 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 2: league setup and who you're a provider is, you know, 823 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: you may have IR spots, so he may be just 824 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 2: being stashed in some leagues, and then conventional thinking was 825 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 2: based on them being inept from day one that he 826 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 2: wouldn't even see the field this year. But now we're 827 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: getting ever closer to an opportunity for that to be 828 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 2: the case. Russell Wilson still available in half leagues. I 829 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 2: know it's a lot of quarterbacks, but the quarterback position 830 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 2: in such flux as we were just talking about, So 831 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 2: maybe an opportunity there there in Seattle. Zach charboney back 832 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: in healthy, available in about forty percent of leagues, so 833 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 2: opportunity might knock there as well. 834 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 3: All right, there it is. That's a lever wires targets 835 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 3: a lot of guys, But that's all right. We are 836 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 3: starting to hit the the home stretch as Yeah, we're 837 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 3: past the halfway point of the fantasy season, now hitting 838 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 3: the halfway point of the regular season. First, you got 839 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 3: anything you want to add. 840 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 4: Dad, Let's let's free Josh Dobbs. Let's let's get him 841 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 4: out there, free Jamis. While we're at it, why not 842 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 4: let's have some. 843 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 3: Fun, all right? Yeah, trade deadline, we're doing this before 844 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 3: it happens. There's any stuff, we'll have it on the 845 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 3: Wednesday Pod for sure. So for Ryan Berschinger and Mike Carman. 846 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm Dan Bayer, thanks for hanging out. We'll talk to 847 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 3: you next time right here, And I Wonder Blay