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Speaker 1: much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar

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Speaker 1: Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, March twenty third,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, Episode number one. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the latest edition of The Break. We are live Nest

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Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Are you looking like

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Speaker 1: that you didn't know this episode one? I guess we

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Speaker 1: didn't started. We did start the new calendar year, right, Mike. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're going We're going back to the numbers. What I'm

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Speaker 1: just kidding? What numbers? Bro? You mean like the Jersey numbers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got a one? You want to throw

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Speaker 1: it out there? No, I don't know who the number

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Speaker 1: one is gonna be this year, so it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 1: There'll be some people fighting for it if they're not already.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, number one, it's no, it's the number one.

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Speaker 1: I mean everybody wants that. They still want it. That's

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Speaker 1: what they They're not too far removed from college where

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Speaker 1: that's a big deal. So yeah, yeah, I would imagine

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Speaker 1: I would. I don't I really don't know this. I

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Speaker 1: would think Tony Pollard, Kelvin Joseph, those guys they had

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Speaker 1: it in college. Oh well, Tony did have it in college, right,

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Speaker 1: you know somebody will get into it. Yeah, all right, Um,

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Speaker 1: we got a lot of stuff we're gonna talk about today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some of these recent signings, talk

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Speaker 1: about some big picture stuff around the defense and offense

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Speaker 1: and where they have to go from here, knowing what's

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Speaker 1: happened so far in free agency. Uh. And then we might,

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Speaker 1: if we have enough time, we might start a little bit,

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Speaker 1: a little bit extra this week of getting ready for

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Speaker 1: draft to have a couple of these guys give us

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Speaker 1: possibly be there at twenty four. We'll do that over

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Speaker 1: the next four or five weeks getting ready for the draft,

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Speaker 1: and let you guys know what thoughts are, what thoughts

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Speaker 1: start first of the recent signings. I'm gonna throw out

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Speaker 1: Let's start first with Dante Fowler. He was signed by

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. What were your thoughts on that deal? What

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Speaker 1: thoughts on him? I don't I don't even remember the numbers. Honestly.

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Speaker 1: The Dante Fowler move is is it was a pivot

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Speaker 1: So I think he's he's just a another pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: They also added Dorance Armstrong. Do you think that at

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Speaker 1: Clowney's still out there again. Return on investment? What is

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Speaker 1: he exceeded expectations, just like Micah Parsons did, just like

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Speaker 1: Dorrence Armstrong did the Curse. There's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: only time will tell on all that. Nick, you you

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Speaker 1: maybe Dante Fowler. Well, Clowney is really more of a

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a pornman's Clowney, I guess. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to work with Lynton. No, He's like, No, somebody eventually

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Speaker 1: Layton back this year? I mean, I like it because

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not. And then money drives up kind

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Speaker 1: of quick and his number goes down dramatically. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it was a coincidence that his opinion, one of his

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Speaker 1: a level of dissatisfaction with how much they're paying their punter,

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Speaker 1: and I just I'm people are like, oh, that money

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Speaker 1: could be going towards Bobby Wagner. I'm like, well, that

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Speaker 1: was never gonna go toward Bobby Wagner, So why not

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Speaker 1: just signed the very good punter that you had, Like

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Speaker 1: it's it's fine. Three million dollars is not going to

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Speaker 1: make or break your playoff hopes. He is a punter

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Speaker 1: that does not kickoffs when you still have don't have

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Speaker 1: a kick, You don't really have a kicker that you

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Speaker 1: that you trust right now. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: will have a kicker that you trust, but but not

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Speaker 1: every team has no But just you know, just be prepared.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna sign a kicker here probably in the next

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Speaker 1: few weeks and maybe a few days. You've been setting

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Speaker 1: everybody up and it's somebody that you've been disappointed and coming.

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Speaker 1: Would that change Would that really change things for I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna direct this to you, Derek. Would that change things

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Speaker 1: for you of what you think of a guy like

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Speaker 1: Greg Serlin if he wants to come back here just

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Speaker 1: on a cheaper deal. That doesn't I mean, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this, Like right now, I don't know that there's

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Speaker 1: a lot in free agency that makes me say no,

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Speaker 1: that's absolutely better than Greg's rline. But I would have

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Speaker 1: a problem if they signed him and that's all they

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Speaker 1: do when they go into next season with him as

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Speaker 1: a starter. I still think there should be draftable kickers

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Speaker 1: that you think about in this year's draft that you

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Speaker 1: would possibly bring in if nothing else has competition, and

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Speaker 1: then see where it debts out. I do not go

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Speaker 1: into training camp with Gregson Zerline being non kicker on

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Speaker 1: my U if they should resign him, that's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be the only kicker on my roster if I were

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Speaker 1: making that, because money never factors into kickers. When when

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Speaker 1: they go up to kick, you expect him to make it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, espress an extra point. It doesn't matter if

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Speaker 1: it's like, well that's what you get with a you

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Speaker 1: expect the kicker to make it. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: dissatisfied with Zerline because he's pulling in three and a

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Speaker 1: half mill I'm looking at how much money man, because

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Speaker 1: he ain't making dissatisfied because every other time he lines

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Speaker 1: up to make a kick it doesn't go in right

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Speaker 1: because he makes me sit in my seat during extra points. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess I was trying to look at it from

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Speaker 1: I want to go to the restaurant. What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: I guess I was starting to look at it from

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Speaker 1: like their perspective of like, you know how they're trying

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Speaker 1: to always get bargains here and there. It's like, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: at least we know what we got in him. We

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Speaker 1: know how he was last year, but he's a lot

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Speaker 1: cheaper for us this year. Bring him back and then

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Speaker 1: just kind of because they have done that a lot

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Speaker 1: of times where they just yeah, we'll stick with this

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Speaker 1: guy it was cheap, and then I'm you said it perfectly, Derek.

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Speaker 1: If that's what they wind up doing, if they bring

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Speaker 1: Greg's their line back on a cheaper deal, that's totally

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Speaker 1: fine with me, as long as I don't have to

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Speaker 1: listen to bones talk about how he deserves to be

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Speaker 1: the only guy to hold the job. Like you got

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Speaker 1: four or four, you got four fifth round picks. You're

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Speaker 1: telling me one of those can't be a kicker. I

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Speaker 1: don't even care if it's the LSU kid. Just bring

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Speaker 1: somebody in, somebody, I don't care to somebody, somebody you

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Speaker 1: think can actually kick the ball, and you know, make

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Speaker 1: put it through the uprights. All right, real quick, before

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Speaker 1: we go to break us some NFL news. It's breaking

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Speaker 1: right now. I just saw this. Tyreek Hill goes to Miami.

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Speaker 1: Miami's getting everybody this offseason, but he goes to Miami

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Speaker 1: five draft picks for him, a first, a second, two fourths,

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Speaker 1: and a sixth. For Tyreek Hill going to Miami. I

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Speaker 1: don't I assume this is their goal. Good for Miami,

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Speaker 1: for they're gonna know if they're right now, Well, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna know if two was the guy by the end

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Speaker 1: of this season. Yeah, I mean, if he can't make

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Speaker 1: it work with the talent that they've put around him.

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Speaker 1: They got one of the best left tackles in football.

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Speaker 1: They upgraded yesterday. Yeah, they signed Heron Armstead. They brought

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Speaker 1: in Tyreek Hill, They already had Jalen Waddle, Cedric Wilson.

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Speaker 1: They brought in a running back that Mike McDaniel absolutely loves,

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Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds. Like talent, talent around him and the ability.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget Jalen Waddles already there. I said that. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: guys around him are not going to be why two

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Speaker 1: it doesn't succeed. Yeah, they got they got options. Williams, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you we can laugh. I promise you. The Dolphins offensive line,

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Speaker 1: he's an upgrade of what they had. Their offensive line

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Speaker 1: was a disaster last year. So that's the same thing

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Speaker 1: for Cincinnati with Lyle, Like, that's an upgrade for them

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Speaker 1: to bring Len because Lyle, although they felt like they

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Speaker 1: here Cincinnati's offensive line did not mean he will be

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Speaker 1: We got to talk about this defense, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: ask you guys the bigger picture question about this defense. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the defense. Essentially, the Cowboys are running

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Speaker 1: it back. They got pretty much all the players that

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Speaker 1: were key members of this defense back, minus couple guys

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Speaker 1: like Casey's not coming back. But they did bring back Hooker,

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Speaker 1: who will presumably be their starting free safety. And so

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Speaker 1: you look across this defense, Randy is the big exception.

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Speaker 1: They brought in Dante Fowler. Do you think that's enough?

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Speaker 1: Have they done enough right now on the defense to

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Speaker 1: be at least comparable to what they were last year

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Speaker 1: from a from a talent standpoint, comparable? Yes, better, Probably not.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, that's that's just football. Like, defense varies so much,

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Speaker 1: you know, like the trends. It's it's much harder to

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Speaker 1: sustain a top flight defense year after year than it

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Speaker 1: is an offense. Like the trends will show you that,

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Speaker 1: the stats will show you that. You know, and this

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Speaker 1: I know this has been a hot topic of debate

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Speaker 1: in the time since Randy left. Not trying to sell

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Speaker 1: Randy as von Miller, but he had that freakish level

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Speaker 1: of athleticism that gave this past rush a lot of juice,

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Speaker 1: and Dante Fowler was a top five pick, but consistently

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Speaker 1: over his career, I don't know if we've seen that,

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Speaker 1: and to be fair, I've watched nowhere near as much

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Speaker 1: Dante Fowler need to get on that here in the

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Speaker 1: coming weeks. I just I don't have confidence that their

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Speaker 1: pass rush is going to look as dynamic as it

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Speaker 1: did at times last year. I mean, I think I

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Speaker 1: think you got to say, though, the same thing, like

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Speaker 1: if you were to get one guy and get Randy Gregory,

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Speaker 1: you would say the exact same thing though about Dante,

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Speaker 1: just like you said with Dante Fowler, because you would

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Speaker 1: say he's got the potential to do it, but over

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Speaker 1: the course of his career he hasn't done it. It's consistently,

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Speaker 1: so I mean, it's the same thing. I mean you

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Speaker 1: Like when he's been on the football field, he's shown

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Speaker 1: that ability. Yeah, oh all right. I mean Dante Fowler though,

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Speaker 1: clear about Randy Gregory is that he didn't. So you

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Speaker 1: have to factor that part in it as well, because

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Speaker 1: I mean, if Randy wanted to be here, he'd be here.

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Speaker 1: He's That's simple as that, right. I mean, yes, guys

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Speaker 1: are going ghost No, No, I'm listening to it. I

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Speaker 1: mean he wanted to be here. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I and this whole thing has been frustrating for me.

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Speaker 1: I mean just listening to it. You know, last week,

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Speaker 1: for him. But I mean, I have a huge problem

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Speaker 1: But she's saying everything else publicly, so why not He

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Speaker 1: has not said that he appreciates Jerry Jones for doing

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Speaker 1: And that's that's the problem. This guy was free falling

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Speaker 1: in the draft. He wasn't going I mean, who was

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Speaker 1: these things, and then to come back. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: if any other team had drafted him later, third, fourth round,

634
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: he'd have been out of the league so fast with

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Speaker 1: all those suspensions. Cowboys stuck by him, gave him some

636
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: financial help, and even though he says that's not true,

637
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: they did because they gave him an extension while he

638
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Speaker 1: was suspended, which is unheard of. And so to do

639
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: all of those things, and then to have your people

640
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: in the media that you giving information to say that

641
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: it came down to first strike, third strike, second strike.

642
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: That's a bunch of crowd when he's played through nine

643
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: innings of strikes his whole career. And to not say,

644
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, go go to another team. That's fine. If

645
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: you want to fresh start, go go do that, but

646
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: to to kind of make it spin like the Cowboys

647
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: were doing shady things and all that kind of stuff

648
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: and building a reason of why you left. You left

649
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: because you wanted to go somewhere else, which is fine,

650
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: but don't don't put the Cowboys in the spot where

651
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: they that they did it wrong. If anything, they're the

652
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: reason he's even getting that money. I think I just

653
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: think it was I lost all respect for him and

654
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: some of the things that he's done. That's just my opinion. Yeah.

655
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: The interesting thing too is I think somehow we've we've,

656
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: at least I'll speak for myself, somehow I had made

657
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: up in my mind that he was maybe even a

658
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: better player than he showed while he was here. I mean,

659
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the results still worth

660
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: the results. Last year it was six sacks. That's not

661
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 1: a great season for a defensive end, a starting defensive end.

662
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: That's the caliber of a guy that gets that kind

663
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: of money. And don't get me wrong, I would have

664
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: loved to have Randy Gregory back here because I would

665
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: have loved to see what he could do in a

666
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: second year with Dan Quinn. Can he build on that?

667
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: Can he make it into more? But his career so

668
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: far as not shown that he is that level of guy,

669
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: like that top level of defensive end. And I do

670
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: think there was a substantial amount of risk in that

671
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 1: that you get into this deal and this becomes one

672
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: of those deals that people again look in and they're like, man,

673
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: why are they giving him that much money because the

674
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: production doesn't match up, And so good luck to him.

675
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: We'll see what he does in Denver. But I do

676
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: think it's one of those things where, at least for

677
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: the way I think Cowboys fans should be approaching this

678
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: is you didn't lose Reggie White here. You lost the

679
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: guy that you thought maybe had some ability and potential.

680
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: He has not shown consistently that he can deliver that

681
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: when it comes to the games and consistently do that

682
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: for a season. I thought I did a good job

683
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: of explaining that I wasn't saying that nobody was the

684
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: same pointing at you, that that wasn't pointed at you.

685
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying that wasn't pointed at you. This just in general,

686
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: this is just the thoughts about Randy. We got on

687
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: there last week and seriously was like we didn't know

688
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: what to think because we were told that he was

689
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: maybe trying to come back or whatever, but because it

690
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: was all kind of weird. But after everything that's happened

691
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: here in this last few days, I mean, I just

692
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: I and I agree with you. I mean, freakishly like

693
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: he can be that guy like like that that interception

694
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: against the Washington I mean, that was one of the

695
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: greatest plays I've seen any defensive player. It was amazing,

696
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: And he can do that kind of stuff. But you

697
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: have you throw it all in there too, like he

698
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if he could if he changes the game.

699
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean he's changed a few games, but not always

700
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: in the good way. I mean he's had some penalties

701
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: as well, So you're dealing with everything. You throw it

702
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: all in. In this particular case, I would take Fowler

703
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: and Armstrong over him because you have to rotate them

704
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: anyways you rotate them. He's gonna miss some games. He

705
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: gets hurt a little bit. In this case, I would

706
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: take those two guys coached by Quinn over Gregory for

707
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: a way cheaper price. I think, like quarterback and edge rusher,

708
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: I'll take the freak every time. It sounds dumb to say,

709
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: because Fowler was a top five pick. He's got thirty

710
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: five career sacks. He's had an eight sacks season and

711
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: then the big one was the eleven and a half

712
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: when he was playing with Donald in La. The potentials there,

713
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: but give me, give me again, give me the guy

714
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: with that freakish Jerry Jones always calls it gumby. Give

715
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: me the guy that can get like parallel to the

716
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: ground like Mica does getting around the corner and has

717
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: that potential. And it's not just about sax By the way.

718
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: Pressures matter. Moving the guy off a spot matters, stripping

719
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: the ball. Give me like three of those guys which

720
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: you would have had with Randy, and then I'll fill

721
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: in the back end. It didn't work out, And I,

722
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: like I said, like, I don't think they are substantially

723
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: worse with what they've done, like Fouler, Armstrong and Tank

724
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: is manageable, especially when you consider that Mica is going

725
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: to play a role in that as well. So, like

726
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: I said, I feel, I feel fine about where they are.

727
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they're better. I don't know if they're

728
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: substantially worse either. Is there a particular area of this

729
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: defense that you guys look at and say they still

730
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: need help here? Like this is still particularly a problem

731
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: for them from a pure numbers standpoint. They need linebackers. Again, Like,

732
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: I just don't think they have enough to get through

733
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: a season with what they've got with or without Luke Gifford. Yes, yes,

734
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: with or without, I think they need bodies at linebacker.

735
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: I would love to get an extra talented body at end,

736
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: probably through the draft at this point, um, somebody made

737
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: the point like this is probably the first time in

738
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: my career covering the Cowboys where I'm just like, the

739
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: back ends probably fine if they don't do anything to it.

740
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: I know it's got a crazy right, I mean, I

741
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: get like, you can always improve it. Of course, Derek

742
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: Stingley could fall to you in the first round of

743
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: the draft, and if thoughts on dere Stingy because I

744
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: don't want to get too far into draft conversation, but

745
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: I've heard multiple like different variations, and some are like, man,

746
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: I still believe in his ability, and others are like,

747
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. This could be a bus stop playing

748
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: a fight on the air. Because of it, I think

749
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: he's the most polarizing prospect in the entire draft, honestly

750
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: because he has the talent of a Patrick Peterson like.

751
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: He has that just fluid natural ability. He's got injury concerns,

752
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: and honestly, as somebody who watched his entire career in college,

753
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: I wonder about the buy in, Like I wonder if

754
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: he's got the mental makeup to it be dedicated when

755
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: the season's not going that well. It seemed to me,

756
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: and this is similar to Clowney that when you're a

757
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: star as a freshman, sec star on a great team

758
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: and all that, it's like, all right, when when I

759
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: got the league, because and and and there's very much so,

760
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: but then it's also like, oh, you were having a

761
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: lot of fun when there were first round picks all

762
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: over your defense. It's not so fun right now, is it?

763
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: You know, are you going to be as dedicated as

764
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: you were when you're the guy and you're three and

765
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: two instead of five? And oh? I mean and that

766
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: the NFL is all about that. So there's there's there's

767
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: a few guys like that every once in a while

768
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, you are ready, but the other

769
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: seventy five that have good freshman years are not. So

770
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, this is the rule I think is fine.

771
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: But you know, Maurice Clarette, I remember way back and

772
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: he was like I'm ready, I'm ready to go, you know,

773
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: and Clowney and who was But Clowny's been a freak

774
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: since high school. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying it,

775
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: but he's a different I think. I think the talent

776
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: is still there for Stingley, but it's I would run

777
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: to the podium to draft him at twenty four if

778
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: he were to fall that far, even all the things

779
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: you know of him as watching him every game, a

780
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: guy with that type of talent, and as far as

781
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm aware, there's no there's no off field concerns in

782
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: the sense of like is he a bad guy. It's

783
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: all just like football character and he mentally always all

784
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: all in. Yeah, if he were if a guy with

785
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: that type of talent were to be there, j don't

786
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: even ask a question about it. If it bites you

787
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: in the ass, it bites you in the ass. But

788
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: the prospect of drafting Patrick Peterson twenty fourth overall is

789
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: like way too enticing to pass up. And I mean

790
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: that that's kind of thing too, Like I'm like, if

791
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: he's got that much talent, like I feel like, going

792
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: back to what you were saying, Nick, a lot of

793
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: that mental stuff may just be because he's frankly bored,

794
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: Like he's freshman year was so great and then you

795
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: got COVID and then half the players aren't playing anyway,

796
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: and you're thinking all along, I'm just trying to get

797
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: to the league. At this point, I put it on tape.

798
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to the league. It could be that,

799
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: and immaturity will make you do those kinds of things

800
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: when you're young, you're immature and you're looking at things

801
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: a little bit differently. Like that's that's an immaturity issue.

802
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: In my opinion. We picked so just a mental issue.

803
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: We picked all of the COVID opt outs apart during

804
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: the draft cycle last year for not wanting to play

805
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: that season, and like all of them were badasses once

806
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: they got tracked. Yea, So absolutely, yeah, all right, we're

807
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: gonna take our final break. When we come back, we'll

808
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: talk a little about the offensive side of the ball.

809
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that we have the same opinions there

810
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: that this defense that maybe it's comparable. I think there

811
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: have been a lot more hits there and some areas

812
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: that are big target areas. We'll talk about that when

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854
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: moved to the offensive side of the ball. The offensive

855
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: line still remains I think the big glaring weakness for

856
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: this team. It was a problem last year and they've

857
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: only lost pieces. Whether you you know, you can argue

858
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: whether those were pieces that where significant or not. The

859
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: fact is they still lost bodies and they really haven't

860
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: added anything back to offset that. That being said, do

861
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: you think this is something that the Cowboys thinking of

862
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: what's left of free agency that they can address in

863
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: free agency or do you think this has to be

864
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: pretty much the draft and they got to look at

865
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: the draft for a lot of these a lot of

866
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: these positions, a lot of these holes. Yeah, there's no

867
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: way they can be done. It would it would fly

868
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: in the face of their usual strategy. They haven't done

869
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: anything about left guard. Don't try to sell me on

870
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern because you benched him last year and they

871
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: don't have a swing tackle. I mean, like it would

872
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: be very out of character. Like their Josh Ball, who

873
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: did not look ready for the NFL before he got

874
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: hurt and that's probably why he didn't come back last year.

875
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: You're not leaning on him and you're certainly not going

876
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: to go into the draft with the entire league circling

877
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: the fact that you don't have a left guard or

878
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: a swing tackle. So at the very least I would

879
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: imagine they're going to do something about that, Yeah, because

880
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: because they don't want, like you just said last segment,

881
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: that they don't want the Darryl Stingleys of the world

882
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: to be dropping. And then you're like, dang, I can't

883
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: take that guy. I wish we could, but we gotta

884
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: take the guard, you know, we gotta take the center

885
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: or whatever, because we don't have anyone. They're not going

886
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: to do that. They're going to cover themselves the best

887
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: that he can. That still doesn't mean they still gonna

888
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: have holes, but they're they're gonna they're gonna put band

889
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: aids on all the positions going into the draft. Think

890
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: of how everything played last year. If you look at

891
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: all three of the position, center, left guard, and then

892
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: swing tackle, where do you think there's the biggest need

893
00:44:53,040 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: for concern? Amber biggest need I mean swin tackle and

894
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: guard to me is kind of both equally pretty close

895
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: to each other. I mean the other one would be centered.

896
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: That's kind of you can deal with it a little

897
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: bit better. But obviously still need to improve there as well,

898
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: but I don't think I can pick out one of

899
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: the two of twin tackle and guard. This is it's

900
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: such a big problem right now because you you guys

901
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: just talked about signing a guy biking themselves up. But

902
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: you gotta bring someone that's actually good. Like, you can't

903
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: just sign anybody just to have a body. You need

904
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: someone that can actually be good. Because whoever you draft

905
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: in the whoever you draft in the draft, I'm like,

906
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: oh god, yeah, sorry, But whoever you get in the draft,

907
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: you you're not certain either that that guy's gonna be

908
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: able to give you what you need at the level

909
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: that you need it their first year, and we saw

910
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: how much Dak's struggle he needed the protection. We saw

911
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: clearly how much the running games struggle, and Zeke and

912
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard need to help too. So it's just in

913
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: all three positions, the only one that I would be

914
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: kind of left kind of behind would be center. But

915
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: other than that, you have to get someone with experience there.

916
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: It's a cop out, but I will just say left

917
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: guard for the time being because they don't have somebody

918
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: I don't like. I would not want to go into

919
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: the season with Connor McGovern, Matt Farney Ax never done

920
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: anything in a real NFL game. You know, we I've

921
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: been saying this for a while. We hate on Tyler

922
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: Beatish because we got used to watching Travis Frederick for

923
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: so long. Like if Tyler is the starting center week one, oh,

924
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: that's fine, as long as the left guard is much

925
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: better than him. You know, Like if you draft a

926
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: first round pick to play left guard or something like that,

927
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: and he've got a guy that you can kind of

928
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: count on to hold his own I can live with that.

929
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: I can't live with the options of that are available

930
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: at left guard right now. Yeah, I mean it's it's

931
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: a weird situation when you let the guy leave because

932
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: you didn't want him left guard and he and he's

933
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: making seven million a year, So he's the guy that

934
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, we don't want him, but you certainly

935
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: don't want to pay a guy seven million a year

936
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: at guard, so like it's kind of a tough to

937
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: live him that it has to be a draft. Well,

938
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: let me ask you, this, is that a question of

939
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: money or they just didn't want to pay him seven million,

940
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: Like if there's another guy out there that they could

941
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: do a veteran guard that They're like, this is a

942
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: good player and they could get him for one year

943
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: deal for seven million. You think they wouldn't want to

944
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: do that. No, I mean, but that's the thing. Is

945
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: he going to be better than Connor Williams? Is he

946
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: because he knows what Connor Williams is making? That's that's

947
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: what happened with Zadarius Smith. Zadarius Smith was about to

948
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: sign for about eight and a half million somewhere and

949
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: then they were like, time out, Rand, he's getting fourteen.

950
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: This guy's getting twenty eighteen. You know, like no, no, no,

951
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: And and so it's gonna be tough to say, all right,

952
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: you want me to be better than than the Connor

953
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: Williams who's making seven million a year. I mean, so

954
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: you gotta get creative with the cap. And that's that's

955
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 1: something that's tough to do. None. And to be clear,

956
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: I do I think they'll I think they will sign

957
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: a swing tackle and a guard. Is it gonna be

958
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna knock your socks off? No, all those

959
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: guys for Kanta and Secky type, you're gonna sitting there like, okay,

960
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: he played pretty well in twenty eighteen, but he kind

961
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: of dropped off. But he was useful for these guys

962
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: last year. Like that's what they do, and that's what

963
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: this will be. It's like, at some point you gotta

964
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: change what you're doing. At some point you gotta not

965
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: break the bank, but you gotta be able to pay

966
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: somebody that's not in your own free agency list. So

967
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: they work upstairs. You don't have to tell us they

968
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: work up Who has Phil been coached? Like three years ago,

969
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: that was pretty good that he coached somewhere. Are you

970
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: referring to somebody specifically? I mean, is there one? I

971
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: don't know? I'm looking at that, and like I can

972
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: hear Trey Turners out there. He's not who he used

973
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: to be, but like I think he could step in

974
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: and be serviceable. I think he's mainly been a right guard,

975
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: not a left um. Ethan Posk another guy had a

976
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: very up and down career in Seattle, but it could

977
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: at least be a placeholder. I bet I can hear

978
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: people grimacing at Will Hernandez the old Giants guard um,

979
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: I can really hear people grimacing at Eric Flower. But

980
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's what you're left with. Ten days. That's

981
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: also why I threw the center out there, because there's

982
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: a really good center that's sitting out Tredder. Yeah, And

983
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: so do you think by getting somebody like that now

984
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: you can afford to have a left guard that me

985
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: he isn't as great. But because you got a really

986
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: nice right guard, you feel good about your right tackle

987
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: and you feel good about your left tackle. Maybe left

988
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: guard just becomes your weak link that you just gotta

989
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: work with. Rookie. I mean, I would love to put

990
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: you have a veteran center that was good, and you

991
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: have tying over here. I'd like to put a rooky

992
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: guard and say, I would love I would love that.

993
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: I know that's probably not like that, but I'm just

994
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: saying like that's but the older you get, like the heart, like,

995
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: once you've had a few NFL contracts, it gets very

996
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: hard to predict your market because like jac Treder can

997
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: do whatever the hell he wants to. You know, he's

998
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: not he's he might not just jump at the best

999
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: deal he might. At this point in your career, you're like,

1000
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: I want to go somewhere where I can be successful.

1001
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: The money's got to be a respectable offer. But this, that,

1002
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: and the other. That's why Bobby Wagner is still great.

1003
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: He is gonna wait for the exact right opportunity. He

1004
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: doesn't have to. He's not gonna be pigeonholed into something

1005
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to do. Jac Tredder is probably very similar.

1006
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: So I can't even confidently predict what those type of

1007
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: guys might be worth. Yeah, but real quick, I was

1008
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: just thinking, I'm like, horror tackles right now, and I'm

1009
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we're just counting too on Tyrn Smith. The

1010
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: whole freaking seas well. That's why swing tackle is so important.

1011
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: And when I threw it out there, I was hopefully

1012
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: that you guys weren't gonna just poo pooah. He's gonna

1013
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: play this year, Jeff, if history is any indicator. Jeff

1014
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh made a joke yesterday about the swing tackle situation.

1015
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: He was like, well, I guess if if your left

1016
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: tackle hurts his knee in the first quarter and your

1017
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: right tackle hurts his ankle in the third quarter, and

1018
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: maybe you're doing this And I was like, you realize

1019
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: that happens here all the time. Several times in the

1020
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: last like two years, they've been down to like their

1021
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: fourth tackle in a game. It's very important. And they're like,

1022
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: people act like this is a new People are like,

1023
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: when are they finally going to address tackle. I'm like,

1024
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: we've been talking about this for years, like this has

1025
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: been especially in the draft, like we've been considering tackle

1026
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: prospects for at least three years. At this point, maybe

1027
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: this will be the year. I don't know. They may

1028
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: have to. I think honestly they have to at this

1029
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: point just because for the rest of his career, Tya.

1030
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: Smith is going to need a reliable backup because you

1031
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: just if again you have to look at history, and

1032
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: history says he's not gonna make it a full seventeen game,

1033
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: and I'm not. I don't think it's as easy as

1034
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: like moving Terrence Steele over left tackle if that were

1035
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, more so than maybe ever because having

1036
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: the safety blanket of Lyell there for a few years

1037
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: was really nice. But yeah, I mean, you got to

1038
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: have an above average third tackle for this team. I think, yeah,

1039
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about the wide receiver position. How

1040
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: how does that fall in your level of priority when

1041
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: you look at the offensive line. We all think the

1042
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: offensive line is a problem. We know they've got some

1043
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: holes there. Where does wide receiver line up with that?

1044
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: Is it more important? Is about the same or is

1045
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: it less firmly one B. I consider it a problem

1046
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: that needs to be addressed, but not as badly as

1047
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: the offensive line. And I really think if you were

1048
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: making me predict right now what they're gonna do with

1049
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: pick twenty four, whatever offensive lineman or wide receiver they

1050
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: feel better about. And if I had to guess, they

1051
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: would go offensive line A because it's a bigger need

1052
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: be because there's a lot of really great receivers in

1053
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: this draft. But those are the two biggest needs on

1054
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: this entire roster in my opinion. I mean, they they obviously,

1055
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: you know, I mean with with the Marigon and then

1056
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: they're slide and CD up. Obviously he's going to be

1057
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: the guy. But um, you know, I just think that

1058
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: that I know you you disagree, But I think James

1059
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: Washington is going to be similar to Cedric Wilson. I

1060
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: think that's a similar type of player right there. And

1061
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: I think that Cedric had a chance to do a

1062
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: lot with with some injuries that opened the door for him,

1063
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: and that didn't really happen for James Washington, but when

1064
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: he was at Pittsburgh his second year, he did have

1065
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: those numbers, So the numbers are pretty comparable. Um, you know,

1066
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: obviously that's a that's a you know, he's he's excited

1067
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: to be back and he wanted to be here, and

1068
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: of course I know people from his hometown, My wife's

1069
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: from his hometown, and everyone's excited about that, and he's

1070
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: excited to rekindle that and be that guy. I don't

1071
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a Mark Cooper, but I think

1072
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: he can be that third maybe fourth receiver that could

1073
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: be really good players. Well, I do agree with you

1074
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: on that. Where you and I think you and I disagreed,

1075
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: was you thought that a Mari they really did. Haven't

1076
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: found a replacement for a Mari. And what I was

1077
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: saying was, I think that's I think they've replaced him,

1078
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: or at least in their mind they think they've replaced

1079
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: him with CD wh who's replacing Then, Well, that's what

1080
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think everybody slid up. I think he

1081
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: went up to one. I think Gallup went up to two.

1082
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: The question is can James Washington be a three or

1083
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: is he really more of a four, like Cedric. That's

1084
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: where I think you got to replace. But I don't

1085
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: think they have. I don't think if you look at

1086
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: just a Mari's role again in their minds, we don't

1087
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: know if that's going to play out. We don't know

1088
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: if CD's actually gonna be that. We know CD was

1089
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: their number one receiver last year statistically in most of

1090
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: every category, but we don't know if without having a

1091
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: Mari on the field, if that's gonna be the same thing.

1092
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: And the point I made to you earlier also is

1093
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: there weren't a lot of games last year where you

1094
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: had all three of those guys planning. The majority of season,

1095
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: you did not, So you can't even say that, well

1096
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: they don't have all three. Well they didn't have all

1097
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: three most to last year either, And so the question

1098
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: just becomes is James Washington, which I think he might be,

1099
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: is he good enough to be your third wide receiver?

1100
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: And if he is, or if you go out and

1101
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: draft a guy in the first or second round that

1102
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: can come and be your third wide receiver, I think

1103
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good that the wide receiver corking will

1104
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: not be the problem. Yeah, like it may you can

1105
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: question whether they'll be as good as that other one,

1106
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: as that other wide wide receiver group. But I don't

1107
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: think you can question that they will won't be the problem.

1108
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: There'll be other things that will be problems for this

1109
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: team way before you get to wide receiver. I don't

1110
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: want to play that game where I'm hoping that that

1111
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: can be true, like that's the NFL, because you're gonna

1112
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: lose guys every year, but hoping game every year to

1113
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: throw numbers at the problem and say, I feel a

1114
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: hell of a lot better about Chris LaVey or George

1115
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: Pickens picking this receiver corps up than hoping that a

1116
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: guy who's done it. Sort of Once, James Washington's best season,

1117
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: he had fewer catches than Cedric had last year, Just

1118
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: to get you, yes, catches, not yards yet, but am

1119
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: Cedric had like six four I thought that year that

1120
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: that twenty nineteen for James Washington was comble to Cedric's

1121
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: saying similar to the same. But Fedrick is the fourth

1122
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: receiver on this team, right He was four until there

1123
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: was an injury, so he could the fourth needs to

1124
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: slide into the third, which is what you're saying. What

1125
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying is it's one or the other. Either James

1126
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: need to step up and become that third wide receiver

1127
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: or you need to draft somebody that can become that

1128
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: third wide receiver. Either those two things happen. In my opinion,

1129
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: you're you're back to a good wide receipt. Forget Michael

1130
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: Gallup has a really good chance of starting the season

1131
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: on Pup got him. So that means all this talk

1132
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: about being a third fourth, I mean it's actually two.

1133
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: There's a chance that maybe a week or two you

1134
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: draft a receiver and him and James are gonna be

1135
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: two and three behind CD. So I don't want to

1136
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: be at the golf tournament in late May listening to

1137
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: the front office talk about, yeah, I just didn't work

1138
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: out with the receiver in the draft, but like we

1139
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: feel good about James and we got some young guys here.

1140
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: Doesn't make me feel good. Brandon Smith and Osireus Mitchell

1141
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: like they're chomping at the bit to show you what

1142
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: they can do and like we feel, no, I've done that,

1143
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: And they traded for Amari Cooper six months later. Sure cool.

1144
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: They need they need a first, second or third round

1145
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: pick at wide receiver. In my opinion, and what makes

1146
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: this thing work? Yes, all right, we agree? Yeah, okay, yeah,

1147
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: as long as they do that, that's James Washington. Get

1148
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: in there, show me what you can do, and hopefully

1149
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: you exceed my expectations. But I'm sick of this thing

1150
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: where we're counting on that, Like Jeff Heath's never done this,

1151
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 1: but we think he can be a great starting singer. Yeah,

1152
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not. I'm not really honestly, that's not the

1153
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: argument I'm making James Washington. I don't expect him to

1154
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: be your two. I expect James Washington to be the

1155
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: three or the four. But again, and I think you

1156
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: need that draft pick in there. What do we expect

1157
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: versus what do they do? That's my point. So I

1158
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: hope that they agree with it. Are we not going

1159
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: to talk about that they've resigned Sprinkle? Have they finally

1160
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: done that? Yeah? They just because we're talking about that. See,

1161
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: because it's because we're up to date. This is current news.

1162
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: This is current that just happening. Yeah, they signed him.

1163
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: He's agreed to terms for a while, but they just

1164
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: signed the deal. I was about to say, I thought

1165
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: that happened a while back. No, it got snagged up.

1166
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: He was holding you hold on, I need to think

1167
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: about this. You laugh, But that I mean that is

1168
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: a position that needs numbers. Dalton Schultz is great, but

1169
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to sell anybody that Jeremy Sprinkle is awesome.

1170
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: I straight up mean they need guys that number on

1171
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: the football fucker, like they need a blocker. I think

1172
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: in the worst way at the tight end position. Somebody

1173
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: go called Mercedes Lewis. Otherwise, I mean, is there nobody

1174
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 1: in the draft? Come on, draft guy, give me a guy.

1175
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: Do you you watch college football? Who does that? Tight

1176
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: Ends don't block anymore. That's not a thing. And if

1177
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: they do, they're gonna make him a left tackle. Yeah.

1178
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: I can find you like six guys that couldn't be

1179
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz, but nobody they could be no blocker. I mean,

1180
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: sure you can develop into that, but like that, I

1181
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: have not come across a tight end that's just like, oh,

1182
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't do much in the past game, but he'll

1183
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: run like three guys out of the play if he's

1184
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: out there. I haven't heard his name. Please somebody correct

1185
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. I feel free all right? Well

1186
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: in the show on a downer. Thanks, Sorry, that's what

1187
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: I do. That's what I do. Speaking of downers, I'm

1188
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: just sitting here putting up the Jeremy Sprinkle story on

1189
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: the Spanish type, and I'm just listening to you guys,

1190
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: and I feel I don't mean to be a downer too,

1191
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: but I feel terrible about this offense right now. I

1192
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: really do. I mean, you guys went through the offensive line,

1193
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: we went through the wide receiver position, and now you

1194
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: started talking about tight end, and nothing in any of

1195
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: those areas made me feel very good coming as we

1196
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: stand here right now. And even if they address things

1197
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: through the draft, I'm always hesitant because I don't know

1198
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: that like I want to see it on the field.

1199
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: Let's see how these rookies come in and step up.

1200
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: It's very hard to do something like Micah Parsons have done,

1201
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: and people do it every year, but it's hard to

1202
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: get guys like that that can step up right away.

1203
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: And right now, the offense, it's just I don't it's hard.

1204
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to picture them being better in

1205
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two offensively. Yeah, yeah, just because going into

1206
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: the off season, there was one thing that I thought

1207
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: was the biggest priority for this team to fix, and

1208
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: that was the offensive line. And that's the area that

1209
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: they've lost and haven't had anything back, Like there are

1210
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: other areas where you've had it, lost something, but you

1211
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: added something like. That's the area they haven't gained anything.

1212
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: They've gained no ground. They've actually regressed from the standpoint

1213
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: who just bodies. So I don't feel good at all

1214
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: about that about the offense. And I think that's where

1215
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: the offense starts and ends, is how good is your

1216
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: offensive line? I guarantee you we'll be sitting here in

1217
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: a week and we'll have a better feeling about it.

1218
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: Good this free agency, this is what they're still gonna

1219
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,479
Speaker 1: do stuff. They're still gonna and they're gonna get guys.

1220
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: And and even if you're like, well, who's out there?

1221
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: Who are they gonna keep? Give me a Kyle Kozar

1222
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: type guy, Like I'm That's all I'm looking for right

1223
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: now is a gotta steady I gotta steady. Yeah. And

1224
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: another thing that you got a factor in on the

1225
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: defense side too, is when you look at you know, Okay,

1226
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: they lost Randy, they got these two guys. I mean,

1227
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: do we think Michael Parson is gonna be the same

1228
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: player he was last year. I mean, I hope he's better.

1229
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I mean, I think Trayvon Dad,

1230
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna be He's gonna be a better player. The

1231
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: flip side of that coin is Late and vander USh.

1232
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean you always hope, Yeah, that's always hope. I

1233
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: don't take anything for granted. I hope Mike is a

1234
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: better player, but you can't. I always say, it's not Madden.

1235
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: You don't automatically jump six spots. You don't go from

1236
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 1: eighty to eighty six automatically. Some players go up and down.

1237
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: Some just go down. So go up. At the end

1238
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen, I was convinced, you're right, we had

1239
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: the next luke Keickley, is what I thought, Like I

1240
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: was like lately, Yeah, I was like I was sure

1241
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: he was gonna be the truth and it didn't work

1242
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: out like that. Like, you're right. It just everything is

1243
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: always it's a brand new season and you just don't

1244
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: know where it's gonna go from it. I want to

1245
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: be I want to be clear. I'm with Nick, like

1246
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: how I'm not betting against Micae, but I just don't

1247
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: just don't assume anything in this stupid league. But again,

1248
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: like like we're doing this podcast, what we do on

1249
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: Wednesdays and all that, but we're not we're not done

1250
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: with free agency obviously the draft, and that's why offensive

1251
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: line is so important. I think in the draft, the

1252
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: guy that I want, I don't even know what his

1253
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: name is, but his position needs to have a slash.

1254
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: That's what I want. I want to slash tackle. I

1255
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: mean guard, slash tackle, center, slash guard, something like that.

1256
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: That's what I need. I need a versatile player that

1257
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,479
Speaker 1: is a plug and play. Amber said it earlier about

1258
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: is he going to be ready to go? Yes, because

1259
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: that is the difference when they're looking at three or

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Speaker 1: four guys up there. Which guy starts next week at OTA.

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Speaker 1: That's the guy that you need. He's NFL ready because

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Speaker 1: he's played at at this Big ten school for four year.

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Speaker 1: Put him in. He's ready to go because that's what

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Speaker 1: you need. You need to plug and play guy. All right,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. Join us. We'll be back next week

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday at our normal time to time till then.

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