Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Then welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you.
Speaker 2: Lisa Campion back with us, author of the number one
Speaker 2: best selling books The Art of Psychic Reiki and the
Speaker 2: award winning Energy Healing for Mpaths, as well as upcoming
Speaker 2: books Awakening Your Psychic Ability and Psychic Awakening Journal. She
Speaker 2: is a psychic counselor Reiki Master teacher with more than
Speaker 2: thirty years of experience specializing and training emerging psychics, empaths,
Speaker 2: and healers to fully step into their gifts. And here
Speaker 2: she is back on Coast to Coast.
Speaker 3: Lisa, have you ben, I've been really good, George, thanks
Speaker 3: for having me back.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this lots to talk with you
Speaker 2: about about psychic abilities and psychic vampires. We're going to
Speaker 2: have some fascinating nights of discussion. Awakening your Psychic Ability.
Speaker 2: Tell me about that.
Speaker 3: So I wrote this beautiful book that really is going
Speaker 3: to encourage everyone to think that they have psychic ability,
Speaker 3: and that it's really more like a skill like athletic
Speaker 3: ability or musical ability that anyone can learn. I think
Speaker 3: people have this idea that you're either born psychic, it's
Speaker 3: something you have or you don't have, and that's not
Speaker 3: a way to work on it. But I really think
Speaker 3: there is a way to develop it, and anyone can
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 2: I think so too. Tell us about your.
Speaker 3: Ability, you know, I was one of those people that
Speaker 3: was kind of, you know, born with those pretty strong gifts.
Speaker 3: I just had the ability to see things, to see
Speaker 3: colors around people, to see spirits, to see ghosts, see angels.
Speaker 3: And because I was born in the sixties and grew
Speaker 3: up in the seventies and eighties, back then that was
Speaker 3: a pretty strange thing. I learned how to not talk
Speaker 3: about it, how to just tend to be normal in public,
Speaker 3: and it was really difficult. I think I suffered and
Speaker 3: struggled a lot with it, and I really feel strongly
Speaker 3: about helping people that are undergoing a psychic awakening to
Speaker 3: have an easier time of it than I did.
Speaker 2: Well, So, what is a psychic vampire to you?
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like there's definitely some people out there
Speaker 3: that learn how to steal energy from other people, energy
Speaker 3: vampires and psychic vampires. Psychic vampires kind of connect to
Speaker 3: us using their strong psychic ability, and then they cut
Speaker 3: feed on us and energy vampires do the same thing,
Speaker 3: and they cook into our emotions and into our energy
Speaker 3: because they don't know how to get energy on their own.
Speaker 2: Since you've been doing this, have you come across any
Speaker 2: psychic vampires?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have quite a few, And you know you've
Speaker 3: had one if you start dreaming about them or you
Speaker 3: start thinking about them a lot. They just they're very psychic,
Speaker 3: and they connect into us in a psychic way and
Speaker 3: use their psychic ability to try and manipulate us. Sometimes
Speaker 3: they do it on purpose. Sometimes they don't know they're
Speaker 3: doing it, but that might happen if you, you know,
Speaker 3: happen sometimes in romantic relationships, and if you start thinking
Speaker 3: about that person or sort of obsessing about that person
Speaker 3: and they start so going up in there in your dream,
Speaker 3: that's something that you need to deal with.
Speaker 2: Not all psychic vampires know that they are, do they No.
Speaker 3: No, they really don't always know that they are. Sometimes
Speaker 3: they're just they're just trying to hustle and get through
Speaker 3: the day like the rest of us are, and that's
Speaker 3: how they feed themselves, how they get energy, and they
Speaker 3: don't know they're doing it. But some really do, and
Speaker 3: that's concerning to me, that's problematic.
Speaker 2: Years ago, I knew a guy named Andy. He would
Speaker 2: hang out at the Rich Carlton in Saint Louis and
Speaker 2: he'd sit in the lobby bar, always by himself. And
Speaker 2: I was there with a group of boddies and you'd
Speaker 2: see him every week by himself. And finally I went
Speaker 2: up and introduced myself to him. I kind of felt
Speaker 2: sorry for the guy, and I said, I see you
Speaker 2: here every weekend. You're always alone, are you okay? And
Speaker 2: he said, no, I'm not okay, he said for some reason.
Speaker 2: And it was a nice guy. I mean, he didn't
Speaker 2: have any evil about him, but you could feel these
Speaker 2: weird vibes from this person. I mean the more you
Speaker 2: were standing by him, the weaker you felt. And I said, well,
Speaker 2: what's wrong? He says, I don't have any friends. And
Speaker 2: so we collectively got together, me and a couple other
Speaker 2: buddies and tried to talk to him about what psychic
Speaker 2: vampires were and to tell him to work on it.
Speaker 2: And in two weeks when we came by there again,
Speaker 2: he had about fifteen people around him. He was laughing
Speaker 2: and gave me a thumbs up. So he did something
Speaker 2: to fix himself. He must have taken our advice.
Speaker 3: That's such a beautiful story, George. Thanks for sharing that.
Speaker 2: Story, and I think it's changed as life. Lisa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds like it really did, you know. I feel
Speaker 3: like Psyche's vampires. There's a couple of different kinds. There's
Speaker 3: some kinds that are just needy, like they have, you know,
Speaker 3: deep emotional needs and they don't know how to get
Speaker 3: those needs met. And I'm sure we've all been around
Speaker 3: children that, you know, that are in that sort of
Speaker 3: phase where they feel like they're just really calling on
Speaker 3: our energy and dragging on us. And then when we do,
Speaker 3: you know, people like that can learn how to kind
Speaker 3: of fill themselves from the inside and then relate to
Speaker 3: people in a different way. There is a type of
Speaker 3: energy vampire psychic power called the predatory vampire, and they're
Speaker 3: really kind of more like psychopathic in nature, and they
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of investment in using and those
Speaker 3: ones are will kind of like use you, chew you
Speaker 3: up and spit you out and move on to somebody else.
Speaker 3: But fortunately that's pretty rare.
Speaker 2: How do you know you're under shriking attack.
Speaker 3: You're gonna feel just like you did in that story, George,
Speaker 3: really exhausted when you're around somebody, Yeah, you might feel
Speaker 3: it sort of like a tugging or pulling in your
Speaker 3: soul or plexus, or get a headache in the back
Speaker 3: of your head, like a like a throbbing occiput kind
Speaker 3: of headache. Those are really common ways to tell.
Speaker 2: Can it hurt you? You know?
Speaker 3: Can I saw this for a long time when I
Speaker 3: was you know, I had my energy healing practice. I
Speaker 3: work with this woman who was really sick. She had
Speaker 3: all kinds of problems. She had, you know, immune system issues,
Speaker 3: she had somet of these mysterious illnesses if the doctors
Speaker 3: couldn't find and I would do raiking on her and
Speaker 3: you know, work with her and just energy healing, and
Speaker 3: she would look great. She would leave the session and
Speaker 3: she would look created, and then she'd come back the
Speaker 3: next week it looked like kind of like a deflated balloon.
Speaker 3: And I could never figure out why. I'm actually really
Speaker 3: afraid she was gonna die, George, Like I didn't. I
Speaker 3: wasn't sure she was gonna make it. And then one
Speaker 3: day her husband came to pick her up and he
Speaker 3: was like in this like blooming house like rosy cheeks
Speaker 3: and strong, and I could literally see the energy that's
Speaker 3: pulling out of her and going into him, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my gosh, you know that's not good.
Speaker 3: It Eventually it broke up and then she went back
Speaker 3: into being healthy when she wasn't like literally taking her
Speaker 3: life wise energy anymore.
Speaker 2: You talk about four kinds of energy vampires. What are they?
Speaker 3: Well, there's the predatory vampire, which we were just talking
Speaker 3: about right. There's there's a sort of a victim vampire,
Speaker 3: which made like the kind that you were talking about,
Speaker 3: like they don't really know, they just feel really like
Speaker 3: disempowered in life. Then there's the situational energy vampire, which
Speaker 3: can really happen to any of us if we fall
Speaker 3: on hard times. You know, you lose your job or
Speaker 3: a hurricane takes your house.
Speaker 1: You know, you just you.
Speaker 2: Become a temporary psychic vampire.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not your fault, it's just due to
Speaker 3: the situation that you're in, you know. And then sometimes
Speaker 3: really sensitive people empacts can all become energy vampires if
Speaker 3: they're not careful. If they if you let yourself get
Speaker 3: so too drained by an energy vampire, you could actually
Speaker 3: become one yourself.
Speaker 2: Do you know it?
Speaker 3: You know, some people do and some people don't. I
Speaker 3: was so surprised when I wrote my book Energy Healing
Speaker 3: for Empaths that how many people I had contact me
Speaker 3: and tell me, I think I have an energy vampire
Speaker 3: and I don't want to be. Can you help me
Speaker 3: figure out how kind of like your friends that you
Speaker 3: were talking about, can you help me figure out what
Speaker 3: to do about it? And so some people really know
Speaker 3: and other people have no idea. They just they just
Speaker 3: can't figure it. They have it's not on their minds.
Speaker 3: They're not trying to do it, and they have no
Speaker 3: idea what they're doing it.
Speaker 2: Are some people born psychic vampires or do they develop
Speaker 2: into one?
Speaker 3: I think some people are born that way. That would
Speaker 3: be more like a psychopathic kind. And there's been a
Speaker 3: lot of research and you know, psychologists have done lately
Speaker 3: on how people become psychopaths, why they are that way,
Speaker 3: and there's you know, I guess their brains are sort
Speaker 3: of different, their neurological systems are different than the rest
Speaker 3: of us. So I think it's kind of coded in
Speaker 3: that way, and some of it happened we learn that
Speaker 3: way it's it's something that we, especially the victim vampires,
Speaker 3: learn how to get energy and attention from other people
Speaker 3: by not being able to support themselves. And I feel
Speaker 3: like the victim vampires can recover and find new ways.
Speaker 2: To be well with Lisa Champion. Her website is linked
Speaker 2: up at coast tocoastam dot com. Her latest book is
Speaker 2: called Awakening Your Psychic Ability. We'll talk about that tonight
Speaker 2: as well and take your calls later on tonight. These
Speaker 2: psychic vampires, are they manipulative people? Are they good at
Speaker 2: what they do? Yeah?
Speaker 3: The predatory kind? Absolutely? Are they one hundred percent? No,
Speaker 3: they're doing it. They're like they're kind like con artists.
Speaker 3: They're shape shifters, and a lot of times you've heard
Speaker 3: a lot about narci cysts and narcissistic abuse patterns. They're
Speaker 3: really like that. And they they will choose somebody they're
Speaker 3: quite psychic themselves, honestly charged, and they use their psychic
Speaker 3: ability to target somebody that looks like a good you know, mark,
Speaker 3: a good kind of prey, and then they shape shift
Speaker 3: into being what you want, saying the right thing. And
Speaker 3: it's you know, narcissists called you know, it's a stage
Speaker 3: called love bombing, and they kind of use that to
Speaker 3: sort of set the hook into you, and then they
Speaker 3: start draining you once they've got you hooked, and it
Speaker 3: can be your time, your attention, your money, the food
Speaker 3: in your fridge, the gas in your car, all of
Speaker 3: your resources become their resources, and you're like a human battery.
Speaker 3: You're like this power source for them. They'll drain and
Speaker 3: they'll stick with that until you're out, until you're empty,
Speaker 3: or until you wise up and stop giving to them,
Speaker 3: and then they kind of callously move on. They'll just
Speaker 3: drop you and find somebody else.
Speaker 2: Who is more apt to be a psychic vampire, a
Speaker 2: man or a woman.
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty I don't think it matters. I've
Speaker 3: seen it real evenly distributed.
Speaker 2: Interesting take on all of that, And is this widespread,
Speaker 2: this situation it's you.
Speaker 3: Know, I think it's a certain percentage, a small percentage.
Speaker 3: I think they say psychopaths are like one to two
Speaker 3: percent of the population. But I'm gonna see chances are
Speaker 3: good you've met one, you know what I mean, that
Speaker 3: you've met a predatory one. Maybe it's your boss at work,
Speaker 3: or you know somebody you're related to. It's not always
Speaker 3: a romantic partner. And I think the victim vampires are
Speaker 3: a little bit more common, and it's just that person,
Speaker 3: you know, the victim vampire. They call you up and
Speaker 3: they want to talk on the phone for an hour,
Speaker 3: and they only ever talk about themselves. They don't have
Speaker 3: a minute to spare about, Oh how are you, And
Speaker 3: they like to complain. They they're usually kind of addicted
Speaker 3: to trauma drama, so they'll complain about the same thing
Speaker 3: over and over again. But they don't really want to
Speaker 3: fix their problem because they're kind of getting energy out
Speaker 3: of the dramas and traumas that they have in their life,
Speaker 3: and they often create more traumas and traumas because they
Speaker 3: kind of feed on that. Actually a little bit. I
Speaker 3: think that we all know people like that too.
Speaker 2: Those that know they're psychic vampires, Lisa, those that know
Speaker 2: they're psychic vampires. What's the best way to protect yourself
Speaker 2: against them?
Speaker 3: If it's a victim type vampire, then you really really
Speaker 3: need strong boundaries. So you need to learn how to
Speaker 3: say no. You need to decide how much time you
Speaker 3: want to give into those relationships. Sometimes if it's your
Speaker 3: boss or a relative, they can't always just cut and run,
Speaker 3: and so I'm like, oh, okay, that person's calling me
Speaker 3: on the phone. Instead of an hour, I've got ten
Speaker 3: minutes for them. And instead of seeing them every week,
Speaker 3: I'm going to see them a couple of times a year.
Speaker 3: So we need to set strong boundaries and they will
Speaker 3: find other people to fill to get filled FUM, so
Speaker 3: we don't need to worry about that. They're very repourceful
Speaker 3: that way. And if you have, if you know, you're
Speaker 3: sort of in the clutches of a predatory vampire, that's
Speaker 3: the time where we really you might really need to
Speaker 3: cut ties with them as it's possible to do solf.
Speaker 2: Does prayer help or anything like that?
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes prayer can help, especially if there's those
Speaker 3: spiritual attachments, you know, like if they're putting energy corns
Speaker 3: in you, prayer can help. I would say prayer, yes,
Speaker 3: but definitely good boundaries maybe even more important.
Speaker 2: Interesting take. Have you come across many psychic vampires yourself?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I have, you know, And it's so interesting to
Speaker 3: me because you think i'd know better because I'm a
Speaker 3: psychic and I, you know, read people for a living.
Speaker 2: And maybe you're a magnet.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know people who are really sensitive and a
Speaker 3: pathic off and are so the set like as an EmPATH,
Speaker 3: you know, people have like sort of not they see
Speaker 3: the best in everybody. We were like, oh, I can
Speaker 3: help that person. We have big passionate hearts, and it's
Speaker 3: hard for us to see the baden people. We just
Speaker 3: dissume it, like I think, what's nice, right, you know,
Speaker 3: And that's easy to let the vampires light in there,
Speaker 3: and they will use that.
Speaker 2: Of these of these four types of psychic vampires, the
Speaker 2: predatory ones good or bad people.
Speaker 3: Generally, they're they're psychopaths, so pretty bad about the victim.
Speaker 3: They're usually really good people. They're just under hard times.
Speaker 3: Often really bad things have actually happened to them, and
Speaker 3: they just kind of learn how to cash in on
Speaker 3: on what's going on in their life as a way
Speaker 3: to get sympathy and attention. So they're often good people,
Speaker 3: and they often don't know that they're being a vampire.
Speaker 2: How about the situational person, you know, I just.
Speaker 3: Think that they often don't know either. And then because
Speaker 3: it's temporary, like we all fall on hard times, you know, George, Right,
Speaker 3: So I feel like in some ways we need to
Speaker 3: give these cupies some flack and hope that as clients
Speaker 3: get better for them, they stop doing that and they
Speaker 3: go back to not being a vampire.
Speaker 2: How about the path.
Speaker 3: Empops can be some of the worst energy vampires out
Speaker 3: there and often don't know they're doing it. So if
Speaker 3: you are an EmPATH and you're a sensitive, it's very
Speaker 3: very important to learn how to take care of yourself,
Speaker 3: how to sew up your own energy tanks, how to
Speaker 3: you know, put yourself on your own lists so that
Speaker 3: you're giving from a full tank. And if you're doing that,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna you know, that's not gonna happen to.
Speaker 2: You get a psychic vampire who knows they're one, fix
Speaker 2: themselves to no longer be one.
Speaker 3: I think it takes some work, but yes, for sure,
Speaker 3: you know, it just takes like some work to learn
Speaker 3: some empathy, to learn how to think about how other
Speaker 3: people feel, to learn how to create energy sources for yourself.
Speaker 3: Maybe this is a time when you want to learn
Speaker 3: how to meditate, or you learn take up a yoga practice,
Speaker 3: or you you find something in your life that's going
Speaker 3: to give you the energy that you're looking for from
Speaker 3: other people, you know. But I think that it can
Speaker 3: be done, and it's more certainly more common than I
Speaker 3: thought it would be that people want to recover from
Speaker 3: being an energy vampire.
Speaker 2: Have you ever met anybody who was affected by a
Speaker 2: psychic vampire who got very, very sick and ill.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's really common, especially if you're married to one,
Speaker 3: or you live with one, you're working with one all
Speaker 3: the time. The longer you're in a relationship, the more
Speaker 3: likely it is to impact your health.
Speaker 2: Totally toxic, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, can be really toxic, especially those predatory types.
Speaker 3: You're not going to come out okay from that relationship.
Speaker 3: You know it's going to do damage to you.
Speaker 2: Pressure and if you go into court and say my
Speaker 2: husband or my wife is a psychic vampire, I think
Speaker 2: the judge is going to throw you out.
Speaker 3: That's that's right. They're not going to listen to that.
Speaker 3: But a lot of times those are abuse of relationships.
Speaker 3: And you know, if you look up you know narcissistic abuse,
Speaker 3: you're going to find a lot of help. There's a
Speaker 3: whole narcissistic abuse recovery movement. There's a lot of good
Speaker 3: YouTube videos and books written about it. And if you
Speaker 3: went into a court and said, my spouse is a
Speaker 3: narcissist and I've been suffering from narcissistic abuse. They're going
Speaker 3: to understand that.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, It truly is. But you think people can
Speaker 2: fight this situation, I.
Speaker 3: Think certainly you can. So you can be empowered, you
Speaker 3: can learn how to say no because at boundaries you
Speaker 3: can get energy boundaries, and you know, if you need
Speaker 3: to get up and leave that relationship, then that's something
Speaker 3: that's important to do.
Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam
Speaker 1: dot com for more