Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to seventy two,
Speaker 1: Episode two of Daily's Like Guys Day introduction of My
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America sharing consciousness. And it is Tuesday, January,
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Speaker 1: the child will emerge. But it's Global Belly Laugh Day,
Speaker 1: whole of it. I think I only do that to
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Speaker 1: just to be like you asked, well, let me give
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Speaker 1: or bacon. Wow. No, all right, See this is this
Speaker 1: is back when you know, like this is in the
Speaker 1: era of You're the Man, Now Dog. Dr Yeah, You're
Speaker 1: the Man now Dog was a classic. I spent hours
Speaker 1: just hearing them repeat that. Wait, so which day is
Speaker 1: it though, because I don't think I ever figured out
Speaker 1: which beer cans be. It's beer Can Appreciation Day. Okay,
Speaker 1: Apparently this is the day that the first beer can
Speaker 1: was sold in ninet and that was like a novelty,
Speaker 1: right bottles up to that point, And wasn't that like
Speaker 1: a big thing with cores in the pool tab and yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: Billy in the first season of that's right on the
Speaker 1: way from them. They called it here on the Silvil,
Speaker 1: but it now all the way from Coorado. But apparently,
Speaker 1: you know how like people say, like I've heard a
Speaker 1: bottle opener be called a church key. You know, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. They're saying the first cans
Speaker 1: had to be opened with a church key. And now
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck is this all from? Like
Speaker 1: they were like canned goods, like the first ones they
Speaker 1: were there were four ounces a quarter pounds with the back.
Speaker 1: My god, that's amazing. It's just meant to withstand nuclear
Speaker 1: annihilation sounds well. Anyways, Happy birthday to all the beer cans.
Speaker 1: So it was a bottle opener. We just called it
Speaker 1: a church key because we knew how drunk everybody who
Speaker 1: works in the church. Yeah, yeah, all right, makes that's amazing.
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Speaker 1: to be joined in our third seat by a hlarious writer,
Speaker 1: comedian podcaster whose byline has appeared in g Q, The Ringer.
Speaker 1: He is the senior film and culture writer at up
Speaker 1: Rocks and the host of Film Drunk, The Frodcast, Pod
Speaker 1: Yourself a Gun, Pod Yourself, The Wire. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the show, Vince Man seen in I'm so glad to
Speaker 1: be here, but unfortunately my lawyers have advised me against
Speaker 1: doing any more freestyling on podcasts, So I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: leave it at that and I'll let you guys, let
Speaker 1: your work stand for what it is. Yeah, it's really good,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Thank you so much. What's new with you? Oh? Nothing,
Speaker 1: I did. I'm I'm coming up on months? What is it?
Speaker 1: Six Team of Dad Life? So congratulations upcoming to Miles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how are you? What's what's six team? What's it like
Speaker 1: six team? Like, what do you when you look back
Speaker 1: at someone like me who's on the precipice and where
Speaker 1: you're out, where you're at six team in I'd say
Speaker 1: the first two to three months are right off because
Speaker 1: at that point, like they can't see you or smile,
Speaker 1: Like once they learned to smile, it starts to get
Speaker 1: a lot more gratic. It gets like progressively more gratifying,
Speaker 1: Like they learned to smile, and then they gained the
Speaker 1: ability to laugh, which is great because then you spend
Speaker 1: all your time trying to But that first two months
Speaker 1: of just like pooping glow worm that wakes you up
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, that's yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. You know, I've I've, I've I've I've spent
Speaker 1: countless hours holding a PlayStation controller wondering is there something
Speaker 1: better I could be doing? So I feel like taking
Speaker 1: care of a newly birthed life form will be a
Speaker 1: good The only good thing about the first two to
Speaker 1: three months is that they just stay wherever you set
Speaker 1: them down. Yeah, that's what I say, is yeah, they're
Speaker 1: like get one of those Moses basket, Like just get
Speaker 1: a thing. You could be just you know, throw over
Speaker 1: your shoulder and bring the baby around the house with
Speaker 1: you so and set them down in the river, just
Speaker 1: like Moses with a note and hope and hope he
Speaker 1: makes something himself, you know, Vince, I did want to
Speaker 1: talk about So I've lightly talked about Babylon, just like
Speaker 1: as not not in great detail. But I do hate
Speaker 1: when a podcast I like doesn't like a movie I
Speaker 1: like and doesn't give the alternate point of view. When
Speaker 1: I got out of Babylon, went right to the Metacritic
Speaker 1: to be like, what what are people saying about this film?
Speaker 1: Am I crazy? Turns out I am, and one of
Speaker 1: my favorite critics then one, Vince Mancini, gave it a
Speaker 1: glowing review. So I just want to give you thirty seconds. Well,
Speaker 1: what's the case for Babylon? See? I mean, I love
Speaker 1: a scat movie, and I feel like he just over
Speaker 1: the top scat the whole time. And first of all,
Speaker 1: I'm a huge sucker for that. Like the first five
Speaker 1: minutes is just uh, like a set piece where an
Speaker 1: elephant poops on the camera and then there's like a
Speaker 1: big cocaine orgy and then uh and Fatty Arbuckle getting
Speaker 1: a Golden Shower that was supposed to be Fatty Hardbuckle. See,
Speaker 1: I feel like I just didn't I wasn't there, I
Speaker 1: wasn't crazy. You missed all the references, many references, So
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like it was three hours and ten minutes,
Speaker 1: and I expected to be really bored because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm King of the I hate long movies, Brigade, and uh,
Speaker 1: I really just wasn't bored for that whole movie. And
Speaker 1: even while I'm watching it, I'm thinking, I feel like
Speaker 1: I've seen this movie like two or three times before.
Speaker 1: Like it's almost the same as the Artist. It's almost
Speaker 1: the same as Singing in the Rain. It's almost the
Speaker 1: same as like any movie that deals with like the
Speaker 1: switch over from uh, silent movies to sound like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've seen that movie before. But I was like really
Speaker 1: into this one, and it kind of to me like
Speaker 1: the best kind of movie is one that's like sort
Speaker 1: of self explanatory, where like he was he was showing
Speaker 1: me why movies are magical, where I was like, I
Speaker 1: shouldn't like this movie, and yet here I am enjoying
Speaker 1: it and not being board, and there's I don't know
Speaker 1: that there was something to that to me like he
Speaker 1: was sort of he was clearly doing it deliberately, and
Speaker 1: I thought he was sort of making a case for
Speaker 1: movies just being larger than life in that way. That's
Speaker 1: you just keep wanting to watch Brad Pitt do stuff
Speaker 1: for whatever. It is hard not to watch that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well there it is. And I didn't realize
Speaker 1: I had so much scattological stuff and now yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like like in Vince says, it's pretty shitty in
Speaker 1: a good way. I mean, I was watching it being like,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are gonna hate this,
Speaker 1: but question I like watching the fact. How do you
Speaker 1: feel about Elvis? I see Elvis, I kind of think
Speaker 1: the same thing where I'm like, I know this is
Speaker 1: kind of bad, but I'm enjoying it, okay, because there's
Speaker 1: like there's clearly like for me, there was a fork
Speaker 1: in the road where I go, am I just gonna
Speaker 1: be like it's fucking bas Leman, and it's just a
Speaker 1: it's not a good There's there's nothing to say this
Speaker 1: is going to be good. It's bad as learnment. And
Speaker 1: then as I watched it, I was like so very
Speaker 1: like I'm like, this is fucking nonsense. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I was like, it's so wacky that I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't say I'm bored at all. It's more just
Speaker 1: like it's a good for me. It was like a
Speaker 1: fun outrage watch. Yeah, and he kind of, uh, he
Speaker 1: kind of made fun of the idea of musical biopics,
Speaker 1: like you expect an Elvis movie is gonna like play
Speaker 1: the biopic hits and h His was like when someone
Speaker 1: covers a song and you can barely recognize the melody
Speaker 1: in it, where what did they do? This is like
Speaker 1: a crazy remix where he's like, just yadda yachting over
Speaker 1: a huge passages that you expect to be in this movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I like the Elvis would just blatantly go to
Speaker 1: the black neighborhood and be like, oh, this is where
Speaker 1: I came up with my my new song. I just
Speaker 1: they co signed it. They co signed it, they co
Speaker 1: signed it. So yeah, it was we We did say
Speaker 1: in our year review it was the year of maximalism
Speaker 1: with everything everywhere, all at once. Are are are being
Speaker 1: movies that I enjoyed, that a lot of people seem
Speaker 1: to enjoy, and that we're super maximalism, and both of
Speaker 1: those movies are our maximalist movies. Like they're just like
Speaker 1: jammed packed to the gills with movie, which I think,
Speaker 1: you know, so maybe even if I wasn't like on
Speaker 1: the right wave length for them in the moment, definitely
Speaker 1: worth checking out. Alright, Vince, we're gonna get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better, and astro Teller listeners a
Speaker 1: couple of things we're talking about. We are going to
Speaker 1: talk about how students at Stanford are starting to warm
Speaker 1: up to AI chatbots. Good signed for academia. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this must be this must be difficult for everywhere for ever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Professor's students been like, Dad, I give a fun enough
Speaker 1: to actually think about this. And then if you're not
Speaker 1: using the chap out, are you like the people at
Speaker 1: the Olympics not use it? Not like doing blood doping
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, right, Like it's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I get it. You can go to sleep at night,
Speaker 1: but you don't have that gold medal. That's right. You
Speaker 1: gotta c plus your English. We're gonna talk about Eminem's.
Speaker 1: They've decided to pause their quote unquote polarizing candy mascots
Speaker 1: because Tucker Carlson doesn't want to fuck them anymore. So
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that becoming an official part of the
Speaker 1: cultural conversation. We're gonna talk about a documentary that dropped
Speaker 1: at Sundance that's apparently unfinished, but it was happening in secret.
Speaker 1: It is called Justice, by the director of Swingers and
Speaker 1: Mr and Mrs Smith, and it's his first documentary, Doug Lineman,
Speaker 1: and it is trying to like look into the sexual
Speaker 1: assaults of Brett Kavanaugh, the many claims, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems interesting. We might even get into why somebody
Speaker 1: should just burned them on the Lisa, all that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, Vince, we do like to ask our guests,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history. I one of
Speaker 1: my most recent searches was Charles the Second, how many grandparents?
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're aware of the very inbred
Speaker 1: Habsburg King. He's like a weird obsession of mine. And
Speaker 1: the answer was he had nine great grandparents. You're supposed
Speaker 1: to have sixteen. But he came from like a long
Speaker 1: line of number a long line of uncles marrying their nieces.
Speaker 1: Like it's really hard to figure out the family tree
Speaker 1: because it's so inbred. But like the the number of
Speaker 1: great grandparents is like a nice, nice like mathematical thing
Speaker 1: you could put on it, loop backs in mobias strips
Speaker 1: in there. There's something. For whatever reason, hearing an odd
Speaker 1: number was the most unsettling thing. Yeah, he's got a
Speaker 1: family tree. That's just like an extra drawing. Yeah, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Habsburgs were really like they just kind of carefully
Speaker 1: bred and married their way to power. Like yeah, for
Speaker 1: the most part, Yeah, that's how they did it. And
Speaker 1: then they were great at like you know, every other
Speaker 1: potential are dying and then you know, inheriting a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah. So, like all these rom coms that
Speaker 1: tell you you should like marry for love and you know,
Speaker 1: just do what feels right in your heart, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: know the name Habsburgs. You might not even know the
Speaker 1: country Austria if if it weren't for a bunch of
Speaker 1: people just you know, biting down and marrying for whatever
Speaker 1: was whatever their dad told them to do, essentially to
Speaker 1: make them their family the most powerful. And this guy
Speaker 1: was like a good culmination of that because he like
Speaker 1: apparently is he had the huge Hapsburg jaw where he
Speaker 1: could barely chew food and was apparently like apparently was
Speaker 1: also in continet and uh, you know, differing accounts of
Speaker 1: just how messed up he was. But they kept bringing
Speaker 1: in like other princesses from other places to try and
Speaker 1: see if he could produce an air And I just
Speaker 1: like the idea of, you know, these people keep bringing
Speaker 1: in princesses to see if they can procreate with this
Speaker 1: guy who is like it's like himself, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I have nine grandparents. You're like their family line is
Speaker 1: like Legend of Drunken Master, except like where they just
Speaker 1: where where the alcohol instead is replaced by inbreeding, and
Speaker 1: it's just like we got like inbreeding is are superpower,
Speaker 1: but it's also like eventually going to fuck us off
Speaker 1: to the point that we can't even like see straight. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I like to throw in a good Legend of Drunken
Speaker 1: Master reference as early in the possible. What is something
Speaker 1: you think is overrated? Vince? I think canceling plans is overrated.
Speaker 1: I don't know at what point, like it became a
Speaker 1: thing to brag about how much you enjoy canceling plans online,
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I personally hate when people do that,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's that cool, and I think
Speaker 1: you should. It's more fun to meet up with people.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's cooler to just say no, yeah right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't cancel them, say you want to nah, because
Speaker 1: then the person knows how much food do you get? Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, that's that's poor form. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. If if there's a head count and you've
Speaker 1: got to provide or whatever, and then people suddenly like
Speaker 1: of the guest list, like you know what actually nah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and everybody has that one friend who doesn't like to
Speaker 1: disappoint people. So there there maybe is like an automatic
Speaker 1: no and there and there yes is actually you translate
Speaker 1: it back to a maybe in your mind. Yeah, they're like, look,
Speaker 1: John is gonna say yes, but it's a no. I
Speaker 1: know him. Two days out he's gonna be like, hey, actually,
Speaker 1: I'm like already know alad nobody sorry, we we didn't
Speaker 1: even buy enough for you. Man, it's I don't know
Speaker 1: what you said. I've known you since pre school, man,
Speaker 1: I know what, I know what. Yes, me, I got
Speaker 1: doing frozen pot stickers and Casey decided to show up.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be your food. It's a very good point.
Speaker 1: It's it's a thing that I think it's been an
Speaker 1: underrated on our show, and I vehemently agreed with that
Speaker 1: because I do have social anxiety and sometimes it feels
Speaker 1: like a lot to show up to a thing. But
Speaker 1: usually when I show up to a thing in after
Speaker 1: the fact, I'm glad I did right. But I think
Speaker 1: more than I think more. The thing that we liked
Speaker 1: about the canceling plans thing was just was more so
Speaker 1: saying no to offers of plans, because I feel like
Speaker 1: that was the big pandemic shift for me, was you
Speaker 1: say yes to everything pre pandemic, and then I was like, nah,
Speaker 1: Like being able to like have my own boundaries actually
Speaker 1: really important to me. So then on the other side
Speaker 1: of it, I'm like, yeah, you know what, Actually I
Speaker 1: don't think I'll be able to make it. Where I
Speaker 1: used to be like I might, you know what, let
Speaker 1: me check, let me look, and now I'm just like, man,
Speaker 1: I didn't gonna work. Maybe next time. I did have
Speaker 1: a friend who was like an aggressive, aggressive invite turner
Speaker 1: down there where he would not only say no, but
Speaker 1: like reply to the group email with all of the
Speaker 1: reasons that he would not be doing that, and you
Speaker 1: know what had to respect it. Oh yeah, that's brilliant.
Speaker 1: Were the reasons, like, you guys aren't my favorite conversationalists.
Speaker 1: I mean it was usually no, it was not like
Speaker 1: it was not like the Banshees of Initiat, and it
Speaker 1: was usually more like he didn't want to drive more
Speaker 1: than ten minutes, and it would be like, oh, sorry,
Speaker 1: I didn't bring my h my East Bay passport because
Speaker 1: I will not be doing that. What's something you think
Speaker 1: is underrated? Beats? I really like like a good beat.
Speaker 1: You know some people too earthy for them. No, the
Speaker 1: vegetable forms as as prepared by dre Is that not
Speaker 1: what people are talking about when they said I might
Speaker 1: be confused. Be good for the digestion in my personal experience,
Speaker 1: in my personal body, roasted, pickled, boiled, I like them all.
Speaker 1: Wait roasted? Oh yeah, roasted, that's the best way. How
Speaker 1: are they usually making them when they come like on
Speaker 1: a salad when they're cold, like beats on a salad
Speaker 1: when they're how is that prepared? I think it used
Speaker 1: to be usually boiled, and now I think people have
Speaker 1: moved over to roasted because it's better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it just takes a long time, like golden beats of
Speaker 1: a roasted golden beat and beat juice, like drinking beat juice,
Speaker 1: just to like a pee rose. It's always fun to
Speaker 1: watch my peak come out pink. Yeah. I feel like
Speaker 1: it'd be more fun for me if I wasn't a
Speaker 1: color blind so because like I can't really pick up
Speaker 1: the red in the urine or the or the stool
Speaker 1: as as well as people that aren't color blind, and
Speaker 1: I feel like I would get a kick out of that.
Speaker 1: Are you able to, like with those glasses work that
Speaker 1: they say help for people to be able to see
Speaker 1: more color spectrum? Or is that just like an op
Speaker 1: on social media to be like, I think mine's mild
Speaker 1: enough to where it does it really help that much them?
Speaker 1: I think. I don't know. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: science behind it is, but I've tried different kinds of them,
Speaker 1: and it was never like, oh my god, I'm seeing
Speaker 1: for the first time. It was more just like, well,
Speaker 1: that looks a little more red than it would otherwise.
Speaker 1: There you Yeah, yeah, anyway, I'll pee rose on your behalf,
Speaker 1: thank you. I think you know. On that note, I
Speaker 1: like asparagus because like it's it feels really gratifying when
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes after you eat something, like you there,
Speaker 1: you know it's in there. I wish there was more
Speaker 1: foods that I could be like, oh, it's like a
Speaker 1: prize for eating your vegetables a little bit. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: smells terrible, right, Like we all agree it smells bad.
Speaker 1: There's no one who thinks asparagus pist smells good. What
Speaker 1: do you mean? I mean, like your own farts smell bad,
Speaker 1: but you're also kind of fascinated by them, right, Like
Speaker 1: I had heard there are some people who like will
Speaker 1: order asparagus piste through Reddit for him and then like
Speaker 1: had a chip to them and just you know, like
Speaker 1: wear it like cologne. But like that's not me, and
Speaker 1: that says that it's crazy. That was a fatty arbuckle thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the I didn't. There's a whole last list
Speaker 1: of ship that makes your pepe smell really Asparagus is
Speaker 1: one of the most impressed. Like I'm always impressed how
Speaker 1: quickly it just hits immediately, and then it also will
Speaker 1: hit like a day later. Sometimes you know it's coffee, Okay, coffee,
Speaker 1: you know, I know the ones are coffee. You're like, whoa,
Speaker 1: Like if I drink a ton of like like uncut
Speaker 1: cold brew, that definitely comes up. They say Brussels sprouts interesting, okay,
Speaker 1: because it produces methyl cain or captain like gas. That's
Speaker 1: one for making urine smell less than stellar. Okay. I'd
Speaker 1: say beats go like falls into that category of things
Speaker 1: that got a bad rap in the eighties because people
Speaker 1: were only preparing them one way. For me, beats were
Speaker 1: like canned beats, like bright red canned beats just I
Speaker 1: don't know why, but like yeah that and that was gross,
Speaker 1: like just but the same with Brussels sprouts just being boiled,
Speaker 1: and now they're kind of cool again because people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't have to like make it in the least
Speaker 1: appetizing way. They also apparently bred out a lot of
Speaker 1: the bitterness of Brussels sprout, So it's partly preparation, but
Speaker 1: it's also partly like that they've figured out the plant
Speaker 1: plant science that made them less funky. Yeah, I hate that.
Speaker 1: That's like when, like you when you have like arugula
Speaker 1: and you realize you're, like, man, they fucking took the
Speaker 1: teeth out of a ruf like in America, Like it
Speaker 1: just doesn't have that kick anymore unless you go get
Speaker 1: rocket on the other side of the pond and you're like, oh, peppery.
Speaker 1: Everything is just being bred to eventually tastes like gatorade
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I love this riptide rush salad. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back to
Speaker 1: talk about some news. And we're back. And yeah, students
Speaker 1: at Stanford are starting to do what I would be
Speaker 1: doing if I was a student anywhere. It was exploring
Speaker 1: exploring the capabilities GPTs. These these chat bots, they're so
Speaker 1: fucking you know on point. I mean, we saw how
Speaker 1: they wrote like the Bible and the Voice of Tolkien
Speaker 1: and it was pretty good and things like that. But
Speaker 1: apparently in like a Stanford, they did a survey for
Speaker 1: all like the students who just completed their fall finals
Speaker 1: for two and a growing number of them are starting
Speaker 1: to rely on the AI for finishing assignments, are getting ideas.
Speaker 1: People answered this question. This survey very in a in
Speaker 1: a number of ways, but they said they pulled around
Speaker 1: forty students and about seventeen percent said they were using
Speaker 1: chat GPT to assist with their assignments and exams, and
Speaker 1: they said, of those seventeen percent, a majority reported using
Speaker 1: the AI only for brainstorming and outlining, and then only
Speaker 1: five percent we're actually honest or like yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just submitted material written directly from there without any edits.
Speaker 1: So I think I think five percent were I mean,
Speaker 1: I can see how maybe it would help you organize
Speaker 1: your thoughts, but at that point, like, what are we
Speaker 1: doing here? You know that the survey was conducted using
Speaker 1: the honor system that that catches so many people for
Speaker 1: plagiarism when they turn in the paper and then immediately
Speaker 1: confessed to plagiarizing. Yeah this, I'm not buying these percentages,
Speaker 1: but it is interesting to me to just think about,
Speaker 1: like how how constant this is going to be? Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean didn't it seems like it would have been
Speaker 1: Standford guys that invented the chat GPT, so elon that
Speaker 1: other guy. I mean, Ellen only went to Stanford for
Speaker 1: like three days, like like literally forty eight hours. But
Speaker 1: it feels like the chickens coming home to roost a
Speaker 1: little bit, right, And the professors right now, they're like
Speaker 1: they're already discussing like in their own slack channels, like
Speaker 1: how they need to like alter the curriculum. Others are
Speaker 1: like talking about going full bloodite on these students and
Speaker 1: being like leave your fucking backpacks and bleep bleep electronics
Speaker 1: at the fucking door when you take this test. Now
Speaker 1: here is your pencil and paperpose you as like a
Speaker 1: not very creative professor if people can face your class
Speaker 1: using a chat bot, Yeah, I just have to commit
Speaker 1: my essay to memory that I just wrote a chat bot.
Speaker 1: But okay, and then you know, so like a lot
Speaker 1: of other the other professors have kind of been shocked by,
Speaker 1: like how fucking brazen some students have been. One professors like,
Speaker 1: I mean I told him, I said, look, if you're
Speaker 1: using chat like bots and ship, at least put in
Speaker 1: your work sited, so like you can at least fess
Speaker 1: up to the fact that you're using these tool or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then this professor's like, I also got one that
Speaker 1: just had this sentence in the third paragraph that said,
Speaker 1: as a large language model trained by open Ai, And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, what the funk? Like some of
Speaker 1: the professors like, come on, like if you're canna even cheat,
Speaker 1: like fucking do some work you pieces of Ship. Uh
Speaker 1: so I don't know, I mean like what to do now? Right,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's good at telling stories. We've realized that,
Speaker 1: Like it's really good at like narrative style, like like
Speaker 1: like these sort of rhetorical styles of different outlets and
Speaker 1: things like that. But when it comes tothing for like
Speaker 1: more complex that involves like numbers and sums or programming,
Speaker 1: like it's people get people are getting found out really quick.
Speaker 1: But it's not stopping from people from attempting it, which
Speaker 1: is really something. It just seems like they'll need to
Speaker 1: do all the essays as like written exam essays, right
Speaker 1: or would it be like more like fucking Socrates and Ship,
Speaker 1: Like you gotta go kick it with your professor and
Speaker 1: like just just like you know, chop it up and
Speaker 1: then they go, Okay, this motherfucker understood the assignment this semester.
Speaker 1: Like if you don't have to think those kids are
Speaker 1: gonna have an earwig with chat and GPS, GPS CHET
Speaker 1: GPT telling them exactly what to say. You're you're crazy
Speaker 1: and you haven't you weren't raised on eighties and nineties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like in your theology class, your professors like so do
Speaker 1: you believe that the parable of the stoning of Stephen
Speaker 1: was the beginning of the other ring of Jews in
Speaker 1: the New Testament. And then the person's goes what that means? Nathan?
Speaker 1: For you, it's like just I don't know. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I didn't. My ear wig buzzed out. Do I believe
Speaker 1: that the stoning of Yeah, yeah, it's interest interesting times
Speaker 1: for sure? I think yeah. And I think it's just
Speaker 1: weird to think of, like how you begin to see
Speaker 1: this shift? Right, Like I graduated college in two thousand seven,
Speaker 1: and that was, like, you know, spark Notes was like
Speaker 1: the highest of the high terms of something like eight.
Speaker 1: You know, if you didn't read like whatever this beloved
Speaker 1: or whatever books or whatever, you could just jump to
Speaker 1: the spark Notes. But the idea of like even getting
Speaker 1: a hint on how to structure an essay, I can
Speaker 1: already see being like, all, I'm gonna write my paper
Speaker 1: thirty minutes before I have to turn it in. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean that's the tool. Like if that, if that's
Speaker 1: the tool that exists, they should be using it. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you can, if it's out there and uh, and
Speaker 1: you can make it into something coherent that works I
Speaker 1: don't know, it seems like it seems like you did
Speaker 1: complete the assignment. Yeah, yeah, I mean as long as
Speaker 1: you're not turning it in site unseen without like reading
Speaker 1: the essay that was written for you and then like
Speaker 1: adding your own thoughts. I mean it's probably it's probably
Speaker 1: not great. It probably is smart for these teachers to
Speaker 1: alter their curriculum a little bit, but I mean it's
Speaker 1: importantly it's stealing a job from the student who was
Speaker 1: getting paid by other students to write their essays for
Speaker 1: for them. Like if that's just going to some AI
Speaker 1: now right exactly? Yeah, that and that that's the real problem.
Speaker 1: You know. Sparks notes were so badad by the way
Speaker 1: they were meant, they were meant to expose you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like if you came half cocked with like a spark
Speaker 1: notes fucking refresher before a lecture or something, they're like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what was that analysis of this? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: had a friend who showed up to this final that
Speaker 1: everybody else I knew had like studied a lot for
Speaker 1: and we're like really worried about and we knew that
Speaker 1: he hadn't studied at all, and uh, well, as soon
Speaker 1: as he got the test handed out, he started, he
Speaker 1: pulled out his his contact lens and was like stabbing
Speaker 1: himself in the in the eye with it, and then
Speaker 1: walked up to the front and was just like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm having like an allergic reaction. Can I
Speaker 1: take this? Take this later? And we got the test
Speaker 1: postponed for himself, and I appreciated that as a creative solution.
Speaker 1: That's a hustle he uses to this day. That's a
Speaker 1: that's a that's an education that you'll never forget. My
Speaker 1: most effective one was using nine eleven to get out
Speaker 1: of the chemistry test in high school. Yeah, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't use that one again. Ford. You have ever
Speaker 1: have coworkers that that pretended to have a child so
Speaker 1: that whenever they needed a day off and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, Joseph just having a really bad day, I
Speaker 1: gotta go pick him up. That's pretty wild, though, mystery
Speaker 1: fake shadow child. I have a friend who had a
Speaker 1: troubled brother for a long time. Oh, using that one, yeah,
Speaker 1: the old troubled brother Dodge. Yeah, that's that's more brazen
Speaker 1: to be like, Man, my kids sick again, and yeah,
Speaker 1: this funk October. You don't also because if you don't
Speaker 1: have kids, you're like so clue like and other people
Speaker 1: do you're so clueless about kids because he's got like
Speaker 1: that he got things. Yeah, I'm sorry what some kind
Speaker 1: of necrotic bacteria or something I don't know, s evertising
Speaker 1: or something. Get CPS called on you even though you
Speaker 1: don't have a kid, because they're and then they're even
Speaker 1: more word You're like, I don't have a kid, to like,
Speaker 1: this is so alarming, sir, you do have But there
Speaker 1: we go. We wrote a Signfeld episode and we didn't
Speaker 1: use ai that that was your cue to do a
Speaker 1: Seinfeld thing. So somebody on like before Miles goes, can
Speaker 1: you get them to do a Seinfeld? What are they
Speaker 1: gonna do about my jokes? It's just gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: take my's gonna take my job, all right. Eminem's have
Speaker 1: decided to pause their polarizing. They're getting campaign that those
Speaker 1: are their words, so they issued a statement beginning with America,
Speaker 1: let's talk. We spin a chair backwards too, and sit
Speaker 1: in a chair backwards. But their hat on the other way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always just serving when someone says we need to talk,
Speaker 1: or let's talk. Like when you schedule a talk, like
Speaker 1: just you the talk and don't leave it, don't leave
Speaker 1: me in suspense. You can just start off with the
Speaker 1: sentence that comes after America, it would be the exact
Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, after that and the last year, we've
Speaker 1: made some changes to our beloved Yeah, that would have
Speaker 1: worked just as well. But it goes on to say
Speaker 1: that Eminem's gets it quote unquote and realized that changes
Speaker 1: to their quote beloved spokes candies are quote unquote polarizing.
Speaker 1: Hence they've been put on an indefinite pause. So they're
Speaker 1: not using the spokes candies anymore. No more sexy Lady Eminem's.
Speaker 1: That was the problem. Yeah, Like it basically came down
Speaker 1: to how horny the green Eminem made. Tucker Carlson was
Speaker 1: like the downfall of those spokes Eminem's. So everyone was
Speaker 1: talking about with so many It wasn't just Tucker though,
Speaker 1: there's so many other conservatives who like, like even it's
Speaker 1: and normally Tucker says something and like everyone falls in mind,
Speaker 1: but it's like so many people at the same thought simultaneously,
Speaker 1: which is very interesting anyway. Sorry, Yeah, So, yeah, he
Speaker 1: had a segment last year where He complained that a
Speaker 1: new promotional rapper featured three female candy characters and a
Speaker 1: platitude about how the company is celebrating women across the
Speaker 1: country who are flipping flipping the status quo, which is
Speaker 1: like some you know, girl boss bullshit, like corporate you
Speaker 1: know bullshit. It's not fun to have to be like, no,
Speaker 1: fuck you, Tucker Carlson. We're with m Andem on this one,
Speaker 1: because you know, this is just a cynical play to
Speaker 1: make money. But he then devoted a segment to a
Speaker 1: bizarre ran about how the cartoon Eminem's had been redesigned
Speaker 1: to be less sexy, with the green Eminem swapping her
Speaker 1: boots for sneakers, and like a real attention to detail there,
Speaker 1: like he's only he's only horny for people in boots
Speaker 1: as opposed to sneaker. Yeah, because he likes to lick boots.
Speaker 1: It's all. It's always a tantrum that, like, I mean,
Speaker 1: they love capitalism, but as soon as they're not like
Speaker 1: the target audience for something, then they're mad, Like why
Speaker 1: is it this about me? Personally? Used to be horny
Speaker 1: for the grand Eminem. Now she's wearing ugly shoes and
Speaker 1: I hate it. Those sneakers ain't turning me to grant it. Downstairs,
Speaker 1: I got a problem with this, Like what the funk
Speaker 1: is going? That's something like this is so weird because
Speaker 1: their language is like that. They feel that, like it's
Speaker 1: bullshit too for them to say it's polarizing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't if you believe in some ship like you
Speaker 1: don't see people. I'm never like, I'm sorry from my
Speaker 1: polarizing remarks that I believe that prisons should be abolished,
Speaker 1: Like you're you're only saying that if you're like trying
Speaker 1: to seed to the other person's perspective. They like there
Speaker 1: was some validity to that, Actually that of a swing
Speaker 1: we've heard you were listening. Isn't this all taking attention
Speaker 1: away from the fact that AND and m's are not
Speaker 1: very good? Like how often do you, as an adult
Speaker 1: person eat Eminem's, how peanut Eminem's I'm funk with heavy?
Speaker 1: I I just okay, to be honest, every I've had
Speaker 1: to go to like the pharmacy to get a bunch
Speaker 1: of like inoculations before the baby comes to ship. And
Speaker 1: every time I go, I'm always seeing new kinds of
Speaker 1: Eminem's because whenever I see Eminem's used at the liquor store,
Speaker 1: and it's always like peanut almond plane. But then I
Speaker 1: went and they had like fudge brownie and like one
Speaker 1: with a cookie center, and I was like, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll funk around. They're apologizing for the fact that the
Speaker 1: base product is uh forgettable, and that other foods you
Speaker 1: like inside like pizza, they go the combos route. They
Speaker 1: just they're doing combos. Yeah. I don't know, I really
Speaker 1: like them. I was. I was, They're like in the
Speaker 1: early two thousand's, I was like adamant that they should
Speaker 1: make pretzel Eminem's, so I guess I'm like a little
Speaker 1: bit of an eminem fan boy. And then that they
Speaker 1: came out and they weren't good, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: what did I do in my life too? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you can see why there's no there's no controversy over
Speaker 1: the spokes candies for Reese's pieces because you know, nobody
Speaker 1: cares about the marketing for those because they are actually good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly right, right, Yeah, nobody's like et wasn't fusable enough.
Speaker 1: We need to Actually, it just reminds me remember The
Speaker 1: Demolition Man, where like in the future everybody, like the
Speaker 1: popular radio stations are all playing uh like commercial jingles.
Speaker 1: It kind of feels like that's what we're doing now.
Speaker 1: We're arguing over like whether the jingles used to be
Speaker 1: better or not. I meanwhile, we're like, what about all
Speaker 1: the people that live underground who don't have access to
Speaker 1: the traditional economy? Were like, enough out of you. Dr
Speaker 1: Cocta is about to speak and Dan Cortez is on
Speaker 1: a grand piano singing the Jolly Green Giant theme song.
Speaker 1: I remember that scene too well. But yeah, the Eminem's thing,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's one like this has to be them
Speaker 1: just doing like rage marketing, like a like, are they
Speaker 1: just doing this to to like go to Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: to then be able to pivot off of that, which
Speaker 1: is such a weird. But if that's the plan, then
Speaker 1: why back down and make it seem like you're the
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson was making a valid point about how the
Speaker 1: Green Eminem, and there was also initial signs that they
Speaker 1: were listening to Tucker Carlson even before this, because he
Speaker 1: was like, she she's not even wearing boots, Like that's
Speaker 1: not hot, She's wearing sneakers. They redesigned the Green Eminem
Speaker 1: to have boots again, and but this time he was like,
Speaker 1: but now she's a lesbian, which is not like I
Speaker 1: guess she held hands with the brown Eminem and then
Speaker 1: ed like six years ago. But it was like a
Speaker 1: meme that circulated its way to his Facebook wall or
Speaker 1: wherever the funk he gets his news, and he complained
Speaker 1: that there was a plus sized, obest purple Eminem, which
Speaker 1: is just a peanut Eminem, Like that's the that's that's
Speaker 1: the shape of Eminem's. Man. Yeah, it's not like she
Speaker 1: spelled before. I mean, it feels like the if you're
Speaker 1: the marketing person for Eminem, you're basically making decisions on
Speaker 1: who has the most boycott cloud. So before it was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we don't want to get boycotted by people who think
Speaker 1: that the Green eminem is two sex positive, and now
Speaker 1: we don't want to get boycotted by the one who
Speaker 1: is not horny enough from the Green Eminem. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, we're playing out culture war battles and
Speaker 1: like really random arenas like the eminem spokes people, it's great, yeah,
Speaker 1: and look they're winning, folks. I just want you might
Speaker 1: win some, but you just lost one. Libs, I wonder
Speaker 1: what that commercial is going to look at like though
Speaker 1: that they've had to painfully tease. So now they're saying,
Speaker 1: but we got somebody that everyone can agree on, maya
Speaker 1: Rudolph Myls Like cool, thanks everyone, I am an acceptable choice.
Speaker 1: Thank you for Tucker's carl Yes, Tucker Carlson's favorite human
Speaker 1: a woman of color, like are we That's gonna probably
Speaker 1: outrage him more. That's why I hope it's a it's
Speaker 1: a grand number. Maybe could you imagine if then they
Speaker 1: like double down in the commercially, like, ah, we got you,
Speaker 1: but you thought we were gonna backpedal, and we're like,
Speaker 1: this doesn't even make sense anymore. Just shut up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be not at all. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what they do. That's a lie.
Speaker 1: It won't be interesting. That would require me watching the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. And we're back. And so we're
Speaker 1: learning more about the alleged assaults committed by sitting Supreme
Speaker 1: Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh from the director of Swingers and
Speaker 1: Mr and Mrs Smith because yeah, oh yeah, and the
Speaker 1: very first born identity. Yeah, wow, look at this guy.
Speaker 1: So this was like a surprise album drop, like he
Speaker 1: funded the whole thing himself and like signed the whole
Speaker 1: crew too, n d as to make sure nobody knew
Speaker 1: this was coming. And people within the entertainment pressers saying, like,
Speaker 1: it's pretty like the documentary world is not large. There's like,
Speaker 1: you know, a handful of three people get to make those.
Speaker 1: So people were really surprised that they were able to
Speaker 1: pull it off and keep it a surprise. So they
Speaker 1: sped a rough draft at Sundance and so it's the
Speaker 1: first documentary by director Doug Lyman, who made all those
Speaker 1: movies we were talking about, And most of the documentary
Speaker 1: is about the accusations made by Deborah Ramirez who previously
Speaker 1: recalled that Brett Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken
Speaker 1: dorm party. It sounds like they're doing like floating this out,
Speaker 1: using it to get attention, and then like going to
Speaker 1: get additional kind of material from the process of like
Speaker 1: having a public that they're making this documentary. But they
Speaker 1: say the biggest reveal in the documentary is an auto
Speaker 1: audio recording of Max Steer, a Yale classmate who had
Speaker 1: previously stated at the Kavanaugh had his pants down at
Speaker 1: a party, but on the leaked tape he details the
Speaker 1: time of drunken Kavanaugh attempted to insert his penis into
Speaker 1: the mouth of a young woman at a dorm party
Speaker 1: while she was nearly passed out on the floor from drinking.
Speaker 1: Didn't we hear this? Like we heard we heard these
Speaker 1: allegations too, didn't we Like wasn't like Debra Ramirez one
Speaker 1: of the people that they Ramirez was definitely one of
Speaker 1: the people. Then there was like an Anne this anecdote too,
Speaker 1: and the f is like yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked
Speaker 1: to everybody. Yeah, I think there were similar things. I
Speaker 1: don't know that I had heard that one in particular
Speaker 1: the mouth one, but other Yell classmates in the suggests
Speaker 1: that Kavanaugh's team contacted them during the FBI investigation in
Speaker 1: order to try to steer them in his direction, which
Speaker 1: he denied under oath during his testimony. So the film
Speaker 1: basically contends that he committed perjury. Like that's is that
Speaker 1: a disqualified? Like the thing about the Supreme Court is
Speaker 1: like they're appointed for like like is there any sort
Speaker 1: of is there any sort of avenue for him to
Speaker 1: face any consequences for anything impeachment. Impeachment which realized on
Speaker 1: which is a political you know, the the whole thing
Speaker 1: is still a political exercise, right, like in the same
Speaker 1: way that like he was approved by Yeah, it's still
Speaker 1: going to go from the House to the Senate. I
Speaker 1: mean they voted to convert confirm him while all this
Speaker 1: like well that stuff was still going on, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't even in doubt that he was not going to
Speaker 1: get confirmed, which is like again, it feels like they're
Speaker 1: presenting this information to the public as if we have
Speaker 1: any sort of lever to do anything about or any
Speaker 1: doubt about what kind of piece of ship this guy is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and but and like when when all this was going
Speaker 1: on the first time, I thought, Okay, we're worrying about
Speaker 1: what this guy did in college. What about the fact
Speaker 1: that of the nine Supreme Court Court justices that are
Speaker 1: like approved for life and have like this insane amount
Speaker 1: of influence over the American people, two of them went
Speaker 1: to the same high school. Like that is weird to me, Like,
Speaker 1: how do you have like him and some other justice
Speaker 1: went to the same high school. Like that seems like
Speaker 1: it should be an immediate disqualifier. Yeah, that was the
Speaker 1: same handful of law schools, and Brent Kavanaugh's father was
Speaker 1: like one of the most damaging like evil lobbyists of Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's bunkers. Yeah, I feel yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: that they're this avenue is like something that people could
Speaker 1: understand why he's bad, Like they're trying to find, you know,
Speaker 1: the something that the layman can understand. I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: well what if he was a rapist? But it's like
Speaker 1: he has ten other reasons that he should have been
Speaker 1: disqualified for before we even got to that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's yeah, it is kind of it's hard to
Speaker 1: see something that's sort of like those January six documentaries
Speaker 1: you see come in and you're like, yeah, I know right,
Speaker 1: you guys were the ones that were to do something
Speaker 1: about it, Like you don't need I'm I'm all in
Speaker 1: on fucking doing something about it, don't like most of
Speaker 1: most people are. And I mean that's what's kind of
Speaker 1: a little weird. Like you're saying, Jack, like they hope
Speaker 1: that this like slow walking of it will inspire other people,
Speaker 1: but like at that point, is there going to be
Speaker 1: just uh, you know, we get to like a tipping
Speaker 1: point of evidence and allegations that they're going to try
Speaker 1: and do something that they haven't successfully done since eighteen
Speaker 1: oh five. The movie apparently opens with Lyneman seated on
Speaker 1: a couch across from Christine blaisie Ford, who questions him
Speaker 1: about why he, a Hollywood director wanted to make this film.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I haven't seen it obviously, but
Speaker 1: it does feel like we never get and then she
Speaker 1: is really not in it for the for the back
Speaker 1: of their head during that Q and A. But and
Speaker 1: then it shows her testimony. He's like, because the only
Speaker 1: way to take down a white guy is another white guy, right,
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm hoping to do. What we really
Speaker 1: need is another He needs to be forced to do
Speaker 1: another tearful press conference where he admits that he likes beer.
Speaker 1: That was because that was what happened the first time.
Speaker 1: That was still like one of the strangest things. Like
Speaker 1: even when he like accused Amy Klobuchard, like are you
Speaker 1: a drunk? Like when that, I'm like, ya, this is
Speaker 1: we've we've left the planet here were you're seriously talking
Speaker 1: to this man? When I catched my four year old
Speaker 1: and a lie like a at this stage of his
Speaker 1: lying development, his responses to get angry and like that
Speaker 1: seems to be what what Brett Havin I was doing
Speaker 1: is like he knew he was lying and just was like,
Speaker 1: well mad about something at this point. Yeah, what is
Speaker 1: it when when you have the facts, pound the facts,
Speaker 1: and when you don't have the facts any side pound
Speaker 1: the table. That's right. Regal Cinemas is closing more theaters
Speaker 1: despite Avatar to like, you know, being one of the
Speaker 1: biggest movies around. They still have around five hundred theaters
Speaker 1: and are working to shed debt and stay alive, which, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just headed towards monopoly, like an AMC monopoly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Or Amazon, well, you know, Amazon is also a lurking too.
Speaker 1: They're they're they're dipping their tone in the movie theater business.
Speaker 1: I can only imagine what it's. It really does seem
Speaker 1: wild that for all the amount of like just energy
Speaker 1: there's been around like movies just in the last year
Speaker 1: that well, I mean, the whole streaming economy is sort
Speaker 1: of a way to skirt monopoly rules because because they
Speaker 1: used to be you know, like your studio couldn't own
Speaker 1: the distribution platform, they couldn't own theaters, and that was
Speaker 1: why we had like this entire industry of exhibitors because
Speaker 1: they were different than the studios at by design. And
Speaker 1: then the streaming was like, oh, how do we how
Speaker 1: do we circumvent that? And so now it's like two
Speaker 1: monopoly plays trying to do battle with each other. But
Speaker 1: I feel like that's bad. That's gonna end up being
Speaker 1: bad for movies, right, Like if AMC is the only
Speaker 1: kind of power in the in the distributor for the
Speaker 1: you know, theater owner monopoly, Like it just feels like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be We're gonna have We're gonna have the
Speaker 1: m C. You on an infinite fucking loop when like
Speaker 1: when like those things merge, because then it's just all
Speaker 1: going to be about the bottom line. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: this ship gets uses in the seats and that's all
Speaker 1: this business is about. Like we don't, We're not here
Speaker 1: to indulge people's creative I don't even think it's that,
Speaker 1: Like I wish the the end goal of a movie
Speaker 1: was to get asses in the seats, But now I
Speaker 1: feel like the end goal of the movie is to
Speaker 1: create users of that brand, Like the goal of a
Speaker 1: Marvel movie is not like, let's make a bunch of
Speaker 1: money on this one movie. It's like, how do we
Speaker 1: create a bunch of daily Marvel users? So yeah, towels
Speaker 1: or daily shows or fucking even a news show eventually, right,
Speaker 1: But I feel bad because the Regal Cinemas commercials were
Speaker 1: really really bad? Were they the were they the Nicole
Speaker 1: Kidman one? This one has people doing like NonStop movie
Speaker 1: references throughout the theater, and it's just like and then
Speaker 1: Danny Trejo shows up. I'll just play a little bit
Speaker 1: because like it's they lays they lays it on thick.
Speaker 1: It's not a man person, it's called a satchel. You
Speaker 1: can't sit with us. So you're telling me there's a
Speaker 1: chance I know it was you afraid oh broke as
Speaker 1: f okay that I don't even understand how these lines,
Speaker 1: the references don't even fit together. It's like, is uh,
Speaker 1: come see more movies so you two can be uh
Speaker 1: obnoxious and desocialized. So the Danny Treo thing is he
Speaker 1: takes a sip from his drink says I know it
Speaker 1: was you Fraido because someone he thinks someone finished his drink,
Speaker 1: and then the pot next to him, says as if
Speaker 1: and points to there, like that's not a thing that's
Speaker 1: ever happened. Someone went pp and his coat. I think
Speaker 1: that is the next line somehow, like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, But like wait, what's the next line after that,
Speaker 1: because they just go no and then this hold of
Speaker 1: them me just we we do have to follow this
Speaker 1: from It goes from I know, is you freder too?
Speaker 1: As if okay, f lies what you sit on the
Speaker 1: throne of lies? Oh okay, I think that's a Will
Speaker 1: Ferrell line from something m It's it's so weird how
Speaker 1: somehow the like really heavy handed, like trite version of
Speaker 1: the MC one is like, oh fucking love that right,
Speaker 1: because it's like so it's so over the top, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Or it's like, man, this is
Speaker 1: so like Nicole Kidman isn't working with any of these movies,
Speaker 1: but she's selling us on the magic of movies than
Speaker 1: not the magic of being obnoxious to your friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like what I tell you about doing that goonies, Hey,
Speaker 1: you guys should have public So it's a little weird.
Speaker 1: It's the worst part of movies and movie going. People
Speaker 1: who only speak in movies. Yeah, right, double down on that.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, wow. I mean, I don't know. There was
Speaker 1: a time in the early twentieth century when like but
Speaker 1: not Please just went unchecked and then we had to
Speaker 1: like have two Roosevelt's coming, like Teddy Roosevelt come in
Speaker 1: and like break up monopolies, and then his cousin for
Speaker 1: some reason like come in and and said, it just
Speaker 1: feels like we're at the like pre I don't know,
Speaker 1: we're at a nator, Yeah, we're at the second Gilded Age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're definitely at the part right before everything falls apart,
Speaker 1: and like best case scenario there's like some sort of
Speaker 1: breaking up of the monopolies and some sort of socialist movement.
Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm just sad they got through that
Speaker 1: entire promo and not one bar at quote, which I feel,
Speaker 1: come on, the thing is like two minutes long. I
Speaker 1: could subject you to it, but I think I think
Speaker 1: we made it out bore at free somehow. I've seen
Speaker 1: that twenty times, so I'm sure. Yeah, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: that's a complaint. Yeah yeah, actually yeah, your whole Babylon
Speaker 1: review was about that regal s m a intro thing
Speaker 1: and how there's no bore at quotes I found surprising.
Speaker 1: All right, and finally let's talk the Mona Lisa. A
Speaker 1: hoaxer posted a video of police cars in Paris and
Speaker 1: was like, the quote is the most TikTok just like
Speaker 1: dumb shit p o V. You're while you are in
Speaker 1: Paris when the Mona Lisa is stolen. The video was
Speaker 1: more than eleven million times, confused a lot of people.
Speaker 1: The story was verifiably false. But then the same TikTok
Speaker 1: user posted a follow up video video claiming the painting
Speaker 1: was indeed gone, but the staff can't say anything. Oh
Speaker 1: come on, you think they'd tell you if it was stolen.
Speaker 1: That's that's peak. I have a girlfriend, but she lives
Speaker 1: in Texas, right, you know what I mean? Like, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course they're not going to say the thing that's
Speaker 1: a lie because I'm lying, But I'm gonna come at
Speaker 1: you first and try and get their rhetorical edge on
Speaker 1: that narrative. Yeah, there's also glass Onion, a knives Out
Speaker 1: Murder mystery spoiler alert. I love that that is the
Speaker 1: subtitle to that, almost as much as Ryan Johnson does.
Speaker 1: But the Mona Lisa, like, it's about a tech bro
Speaker 1: Elon Musk character who has the Mona Lisa, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just rented out, no big deal, and bad things
Speaker 1: happened to the Mona Lisa. So that's another reason that
Speaker 1: it might be in the zeitgeist. But people have been
Speaker 1: arguing for a while that it's like the Mona Lisa
Speaker 1: is a bad thing for art, Like, I I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that of like the Louves Galleries, visitors are there
Speaker 1: to see the Mona Lisa and then and that like
Speaker 1: the process of seeing the Mona Lisa like is basically
Speaker 1: standing in line at the airport. You just like stand
Speaker 1: in a giant line with a bunch of like in
Speaker 1: a giant like cordoned off thing and walk up. And
Speaker 1: if you've seen it in person, you know that it
Speaker 1: is the size of an iPad, Like it is fucking tiny.
Speaker 1: I mean you all, you just you just need to
Speaker 1: listen to that Lonely Island song about it, Like that's
Speaker 1: the that's the best part. Have you heard that? Have
Speaker 1: you heard from pop Star? The movie pop Star? There's
Speaker 1: a song called the Mona Lisa Your renover rated piece
Speaker 1: of Ship, And it's just like the whole thing is
Speaker 1: just roasting the Mona Lisa, That's fantastic. Feel like the
Speaker 1: only part I remember it was there, does there Riza
Speaker 1: give a line in that, like a loose line in
Speaker 1: that to like kind of bolster his like rap cred.
Speaker 1: I think because someone says he's like one time I
Speaker 1: just saw him eat the whole blunt and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is great, and that's all I remember. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it is, like I think, because it's just one of
Speaker 1: those things. It just become shorthand for art. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like Einstein shorthand for smart guy. And so every quote
Speaker 1: that someone wants to say it's smart, they give to Einstein,
Speaker 1: and chances or if you've seen an Einstein quote on
Speaker 1: a bumper sticker, it is not actually a thing Einstein said. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But so yeah, it's a it's a huge pain in
Speaker 1: the ask for the Louve for security staff and yeah,
Speaker 1: there there's this long New York Times article. I wasn't
Speaker 1: familiar with your Lonely Island reference. I read the New
Speaker 1: York Yeah, yeah, the paper of record. I'm over here
Speaker 1: down with the with the with the piloid. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: some days the Louve has to close entirely because of
Speaker 1: how the Mona Lisa like is just over just mobbed
Speaker 1: by people who just want to be like I've seen
Speaker 1: the art one. Yeah, it is weird because people just
Speaker 1: go up like they'll just take a picture and they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm supposed to do that a tiny picture. Yeah, alright.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is one of those things where
Speaker 1: the root issue is that people are just the worst
Speaker 1: and we want to try and find like, oh, is
Speaker 1: it the paintings? It was like, right, not as the
Speaker 1: people suck and the more of us there are that
Speaker 1: know of something, the worst it's gonna be for that thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of my takeaway from this piece in the
Speaker 1: New York Times is just like it's gonna be It's
Speaker 1: gonna be some other painting if it's not the Mona Lisa.
Speaker 1: But so I do have a proposed solution because the
Speaker 1: reason the Mona Lisa is famous in the first place,
Speaker 1: like it was a known painting, but it wasn't like
Speaker 1: the known painting until nineteen eleven, when a small mustachioed
Speaker 1: man entered the Louver Museum in Paris made his way
Speaker 1: to the Salon Karre, where the Mona Lisa was housed
Speaker 1: and just hid in a storage closet, came out the
Speaker 1: next morning before it opened, dressed like somebody who worked
Speaker 1: there put the Mona Lisa basically in his pocket and
Speaker 1: then and then walked out, and everyone was like scandalized
Speaker 1: by it because it was like a pretty famous painting
Speaker 1: and it basically became the most famous paying based on that,
Speaker 1: and once they got it back, they were like hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of people would come every day to see it.
Speaker 1: So it's basically an early meme. Like it's just a
Speaker 1: meme that went viral. Like this New York Times art
Speaker 1: Gold compares to Kim Kardashian, but it's like, I think
Speaker 1: it's more of a Harambee than a Kim Kardashian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like we're not sure why we're still into it, so
Speaker 1: we are. You're not sure what the funk happened there,
Speaker 1: but we're still like gotta see dicks out from Mona
Speaker 1: Lisa boys. So my takeaway though from the origin story
Speaker 1: of its fame, is that something I've always said is
Speaker 1: that like art theft counter to like what you saw
Speaker 1: in uh, the Thomas Crown Affair, like art theft is
Speaker 1: generally very easy, Like when you go back and like
Speaker 1: look at the most the list of like the most
Speaker 1: like valuable art heists of all time, it's almost always
Speaker 1: like a smashing grab thing or like somebody just like
Speaker 1: has a gun and I was like, hey, I'm taking
Speaker 1: this and down we're like literally shoplifted like off the
Speaker 1: all and like put it in a smock that they're wearing.
Speaker 1: So somebody just needs to steal a better work of
Speaker 1: art than that. People want to be more famous in
Speaker 1: a in an ingenious way that makes people interested in it,
Speaker 1: And dude, that's probably the next level of like art
Speaker 1: market manipulation is like inside job theft to be like,
Speaker 1: what we need to do is get your art piece stolen,
Speaker 1: and that's going to exponentially raise the value when we
Speaker 1: recover it, because there's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: ways to manipulate the market. Like it sounds like you've
Speaker 1: been talking to that TikTok person first of all, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have been talking to you artists. I'm like, look, man,
Speaker 1: I'll steal your ship for a cut, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I don't give a fuck. What's like the
Speaker 1: good version of the Mona Lisa that people could make
Speaker 1: popular and it would make people appreciate like how good
Speaker 1: art can be. I mean that question would require me
Speaker 1: to be a non dipshit person who's like not like
Speaker 1: Mona Lisa art. That's the only thing I know. Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude,
Speaker 1: I know fucking banks Oh ship, dude, that's banks What
Speaker 1: did someone stole the banks? Dude, dude, Someone's still banksy, bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. Yeah, I think it's just it's
Speaker 1: interesting to see people get into art however they want to.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like I think some people like
Speaker 1: when especially tourists, treat art as like not even a
Speaker 1: thing that they're necessarily taking in. It's like, well that
Speaker 1: this like seminal work is housed in the building, I
Speaker 1: gotta go say I stood near it. Yeah, like and
Speaker 1: then you miss all the other cool shit because I
Speaker 1: think again, like this, it all builds on top of
Speaker 1: each other, like where it's it's you know, like we taught,
Speaker 1: we laughed like it's a medieval meme, and then we
Speaker 1: now like with social media, now people have to prove
Speaker 1: that they've been near the famous thing at any possible moments.
Speaker 1: So it's only like I think, exponentially like just sort
Speaker 1: of driven the desire for people have been like and
Speaker 1: here's proof that I stood next to this little pick
Speaker 1: all right, ells just covered in angel wings like angel
Speaker 1: wings graffiti like this. I collected them all. I went
Speaker 1: to all fifty places where you can stand in front
Speaker 1: of the angel wings on a wall and take a
Speaker 1: selfie in in Los Angeles. So I completed the quest.
Speaker 1: I did have to take a picture next to the
Speaker 1: I Love you All in Austin. That was That was
Speaker 1: part of the that was part of the trip. We
Speaker 1: had to do it. Yeah cheers sign Yeah, well events,
Speaker 1: pleasure having you as always, Where can people who find
Speaker 1: you follow you all that good stuff? You can find
Speaker 1: my writing on up rocks as always. Um podcasts, there's
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Speaker 1: That is a that's the second season of our original
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Speaker 1: you guys gotta you guys got some fun stuff. Well,
Speaker 1: we hadn't done an episode about the Many Saints of
Speaker 1: new work the follow up movies, so we're gonna do that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do our the Many Saints of Newark episode
Speaker 1: as a live show. Oh any previews? Are you also
Speaker 1: an apologist for the Many Saints? Um? I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: I'm an apologist. I thought it was. I feel like
Speaker 1: it as a as a pilot for like a future
Speaker 1: TV show, I kind of enjoyed it, But as a
Speaker 1: movie doesn't I don't think. Don't think David Chase knows
Speaker 1: the movie format well, So it's like you get weird
Speaker 1: storylines that take up too much time in the movie
Speaker 1: and then kind of don't pay off. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: saving it for a future episode. Yeah, awesome. Is there
Speaker 1: a tweet or some work of social media or just
Speaker 1: media in general, uh, TV show, film anything? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw tweet I liked this morning and it sort of
Speaker 1: plays into our eminem discussion. This is from Murder x Brian.
Speaker 1: The only Wolke mascot left standing is the musa x
Speaker 1: booger Man. Yeah, King, King, that's funny. And what what
Speaker 1: is your movie film of the year? Do you have?
Speaker 1: You announced that? You know, I liked a movie called
Speaker 1: Funny Pages that I really wish more people saw. And
Speaker 1: I think if that was really good, I mean just
Speaker 1: in terms of a lot of weird people, a lot
Speaker 1: of people that look like growing up garbage pail kids.
Speaker 1: It's gonna tasting. Yeah, you see the director, this is
Speaker 1: the first movie he really has an eye for um casting.
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, funds very interesting people. Miles Where can
Speaker 1: people find you? What does the tweet or work of
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Speaker 1: on four twenty day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra uh tweet,
Speaker 1: I like, let's see. Oh. First of all, shout out
Speaker 1: to every person who tagged me and shams that Shams
Speaker 1: tweet saying that Ruey Hachimura was on his way to
Speaker 1: the Lakers. Yes, fellow black and these legend is going
Speaker 1: to be playing in the City of Angels. I'm very
Speaker 1: excited about that. And thank you for everybody who was
Speaker 1: like Miles will like that because he is also Blazian.
Speaker 1: Is it is it official? That's happening? It's Sham's is
Speaker 1: saying therefore finalizing it right, Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It looks it looks like it's it looks it looks
Speaker 1: like it's happening. And plus like the Lakers love the Wizard,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, we've we were cozy together when
Speaker 1: it comes to trade, so it feels like there might
Speaker 1: not be too much friction there. Um. So shout out
Speaker 1: to everybody who tagged me in that because yes, I
Speaker 1: do look up to this man even though he's younger
Speaker 1: than me. And then another tweet is from at lob
Speaker 1: Chansky tweeted, I think it's so cool that every CEO
Speaker 1: at every company suddenly decided exactly five to seven percent
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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brian.
Speaker 1: Do recommend Neptune frost on. I feel like we might
Speaker 1: have cut it out when I did last time, but
Speaker 1: that's gonna be my media recommendation. That movie fucking rules. Uh,
Speaker 1: sci fi musical very cool. And also a movie called
Speaker 1: The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. I
Speaker 1: didn't watched that. So my six year old favorite genre
Speaker 1: of movie and the only one he's interested in watching
Speaker 1: right now, is robot movies. So we went. We went
Speaker 1: hard on it with Star Wars in the past week.
Speaker 1: What about robot Jocks. Yeah, I don't know, Jack now up, dude,
Speaker 1: that ship is wild robot j o X. Okay, sorry
Speaker 1: I was spelling it wrong in my head. Of course
Speaker 1: I know robot Jocks. I actually don't have to know
Speaker 1: robot jocks. Oh it's something. Oh man, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like Jude in mex Suits. Just it's it's about a
Speaker 1: future world war. There's no more war, so countries just
Speaker 1: have you know, they do war by with with with robots. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's more realistic than real steel where it was like
Speaker 1: underground robot. This is full on sanctioned. Yeah, like yeah,
Speaker 1: all these people just like scrapped together giant robots that
Speaker 1: they can box with in this abandoned warehouse. It was PG. Damn.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the robotox was PG. I thought it
Speaker 1: was like more hardcore than that, but that could have
Speaker 1: just been all these movies from me five. Ye, all
Speaker 1: these movies like Jaws as PG. And like you have
Speaker 1: to do a second round of googling to be like, wait,
Speaker 1: what is actually appropriate to a child? Because yes, I
Speaker 1: saw it when I was four Star Wars is not
Speaker 1: apparently appropriate for six year olds, but close enough two
Speaker 1: years off. Look, if I'm watching Cronenberg's Naked Lunch as
Speaker 1: a seven year old, you know, and that's that's what
Speaker 1: I thought, But it turns out that like that rule
Speaker 1: doesn't apply. Like if I watched Indiana Jones when I
Speaker 1: was for like, my kids are gonna be fine with it,
Speaker 1: and yeah they'll be as emotionally malagest. Anyways, you can
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