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I'm on Rock Saint Brown. 36 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: Appreciate you joining me, brother, that's sir. 37 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: Appreciate you having me. 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: Hey, you gotta you gotta explain to me how I feel. 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, living living large in Detroit, just to 40 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: be there for the culture change. How was that? 41 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 4: It's been a lot of fun, you know, getting here 42 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 4: when I got drafted, I didn't really know what to expect, being, 43 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 4: you know, going to Detroit. I never watched any Detroit games. 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: I probably knew like two players in the team when 45 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: I got drafted, and I mean I knew they were 46 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: historically a bad team. It's not I'm not gonna say 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: I was super excited to come to Detroit. I wasn't 48 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: probably like the last time I wanted to go to 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: when I was coming out of college. But being able 50 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 4: to see the growth of everyone that's been here with 51 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: Coach Campbell, Jared Panay, the guys that I came with, 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 4: almost all of us are still here, a lot of 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: the coaches, it's been awesome to see. 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: Man. 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: I'm just glad I was a part of it from 56 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: the start. 57 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: You know, some guys that got here last year and 58 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 4: went to the NFC Championship, like Jamior Laport. That's all 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: I know that just be on the good team. But 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: I was there when we were three, thirteen and one 61 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: terrible and then kind of built it up. 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: So it's been a lot of fun. 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: Well, you got it from the bottom first off, Dad, 64 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: Like we always hear about the ball brothers and their 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: dad and all that stuff. But I want to talk 66 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: about Jo Pops because he had a vision. I respect 67 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: a man with a vision. Yeah, Like he named y'all 68 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: all after Egyptian gods, which I which I respect. I 69 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: got a lot of a ton of respect for that. 70 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: But it's the same brand. Because I've heard a lot 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: of rumors about this and I'd never get to ask you, 72 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: and I got you here, so I'm going to ask you. 73 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: How did the last name come about? Because I hear 74 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: it wasn't his last name, but he felt like this 75 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: is the right way to go. 76 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: So his last name is Brown. So his name is 77 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: John Brown, just you know, regular regular Brown. 78 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: And when I when e when he was first born, 79 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 4: he was in the you know, they were in the hospital, 80 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: he was about to be born. He got the first 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 4: took and everything, and he always wanted to change the 82 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: last name to either vom Brown or Saint Brown. He 83 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 4: didn't like Brown by itself. He said, it's a slave name. 84 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: Won't look it in the back of a jersey. So 85 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: it always had this vision of having, you know, having 86 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: a different last name. So he was in the you know, 87 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: before he was born. He's in the room, and he 88 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 4: decided with Saint and he put so he didn't scratch 89 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: ain down. He just added the st in front of 90 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: the brown. And it's been that ever since. So we 91 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: actually have a different last name than our dad. It's 92 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: usually it's kind of kind of different. But I'm glad 93 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: he did it because I feel like if my name 94 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: was just Am and Rob Brown, that don't sound right 95 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: to me. 96 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: No, don't, don't. The names are clean. And just to 97 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: have that kind of vision and foresight as a pops, 98 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: like just I respect it, like how was it and 99 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: knowing that because I you know, I don't know a 100 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: ton about how your pops raised you and all that, 101 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 2: but I know he had to like put y'all through 102 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: it and and and and work you out and train 103 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: you and coach you. Did he did. He coach you 104 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: through Little League and Pop Warner. 105 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was there. He was with us through everything. Man. 106 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 4: He every practice, whether it's basketball, soccer, football. He never 107 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 4: played really basketball, he never played soccer. But he was 108 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: going to make sure he was at all the practices 109 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: and if he didn't learn it or understand the game, 110 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: he was gonna watch it, see what the coach is saying, 111 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: pick it up, and then teach me. 112 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: Once we get in the car and go home. So 113 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: that's the kind of dad he was. 114 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 4: He was tough on us, tough love, definitely, But I 115 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 4: really appreciate it as a now being older, looking back 116 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: on it, I feel like it made it made me 117 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: auch much better player at a young age, and it 118 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: helped me understand the importance of hard work and discipline 119 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: at a young age. So as I got older and 120 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 4: I wasn't around him as much, it was easy for 121 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 4: me to implement it to my own self. I mean, 122 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: he didn't have to be around for me to understand 123 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: what I got to do to, you know, make something shake. 124 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: So he implemented that into us, the hardwork and discipline, 125 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: And man, I give all the credit to him to 126 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: me being here today. 127 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I respect the hell out of that. 128 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: And I know, you know, coming out of SC, you 129 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: know you were highly tired of going into SC. You 130 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: had a great high school career, illustrious. How disappointing was 131 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: it go fourth round? Because I went fifth round, so 132 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: I went lower than you. 133 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: It wasn't it wasn't the best. It wasn't the best experience. 134 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: You probably you know exactly how I felt, just for 135 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: me because I feel like coming out for the draft, 136 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 4: I was they were saying, you know, you might go second, 137 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: third round. 138 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: That's kind of where we have you slotted. 139 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: Maybe one or two teams have be going forth, but 140 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: everyone else had the second or third round. So I 141 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 4: had everything set up day two with you know, a 142 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: bunch of family basically like a little draft party, and 143 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: that kind of got you know, it was it went 144 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 4: to ship. 145 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: It was. 146 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: It was terrible because you're just sitting there for a 147 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 4: long It's like we're sitting there for like four hours 148 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: because that second day is long, so we're there for 149 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 4: like four hours and everyone is waiting to hear my name. 150 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: Carter's tension in the room. 151 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: You can feel it, and I never heard my name called, 152 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: but you know, I feel like that'll happen for a reason. 153 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 4: I remember, you know, having to send everyone home telling 154 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: them thank you for showing up. I'm sorry it didn't 155 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 4: work out. And then the next day I showed up again. 156 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 4: It was less people, just my family and some few 157 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 4: other friends, and I heard my name card pretty early 158 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 4: that day. It was like twenty minutes of the draft, 159 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: so that was nice. But going to bed that day 160 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: was it was tough, but it was definitely not I'll never. 161 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: Forget bro, I'll never forget it out. It was exactly 162 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: the same except my parents for some reason, we didn't 163 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: have any money or anything, and they maxed out their 164 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: credit cards to rent a room in Vegas. I told them, 165 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: I don't know when I'm getting drafted, Like it could 166 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: be second round, it could be second day, could be 167 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: third day. It's not gonna be first day. So it 168 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: was exactly the same. You gotta you know what I mean, 169 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: You can't. I can't express like the embarrassment you feel, 170 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, even though it's something out 171 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: of your control, crazy, like you don't have anything, you 172 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: know what I mean, I don't. I can't do anything 173 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: but put on the tape that I already put on. 174 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: But you still feel like I let these people down, 175 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: even though in reality you didn't let them down at all. 176 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: But it put a fire in me that I don't 177 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: know if anything else could have put that in. 178 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: Me right, And I think it definitely helped me as 179 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: a fire day for sure, I feel like that got me, 180 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 4: that got me going. I mean, I would say today, 181 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the same fire of you know, 182 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: me being drafted late that same you know motivation, But 183 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: I definitely I still have, you know, a list of 184 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 4: the receivers and I read it every day before practice. 185 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: But for me now it's I'm chasing something else. 186 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: I feel like as I get, you know, more removed 187 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: from the drafts, I'm thinking about other things. 188 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: And the draft is so far away. But I'll never 189 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: forget tonight. 190 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: No, and and and I mean you give me four 191 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: for one twenty, I forget a lot of face. So, uh, 192 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: talk to me about that. Because you've come a long way, 193 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: you know, and and very very incredible career. You know, 194 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: you've been incredibly productive, helped turn this whole organization around. 195 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: You talk about y'all getting into the NFC Championship. You 196 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: are a very huge integral part of that, along with 197 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: Jared Golf and Piney Seul, you know, and the pieces 198 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: you guys have. Tell me how good it felt to 199 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: write your name on that dotted line after all the who, 200 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: hard work and dedication you put in. 201 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was an amazing feeling. 202 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, not the end of the road, 203 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 4: definitely not the end of the road, but definitely a 204 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 4: step that I've always wanted to take and always had 205 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 4: in mind, you know, come in here as a rookie. 206 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: I wasn't like, you know, I want to sign this 207 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 4: big deal. My whole thing with I want to get 208 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 4: on the field. I want to make plays. Then once 209 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: I got on the field, I was like, I want 210 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 4: to have so many yards. And once I have those yards, 211 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: I was like, let's win some games. Now, let's go 212 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: try to get a Super Bowl. So for me, like 213 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 4: my my goals kind of evolved each and every year, 214 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: and you know, to get the deal done was I mean, 215 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: I can't think. There's some people I can think, you know, 216 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 4: my my age, and my family, and my people that 217 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 4: support me, my coaches, my teammates, the whole you. 218 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: Know, organized lines, organization. It was. 219 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: It was amazing, But like I said, it wasn't It 220 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 4: wasn't my goal coming into the league. Obviously, everyone wants 221 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 4: to get paid. That's why, you know, it's a lot 222 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 4: of people play the game. But it wasn't like, oh, 223 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: I want to get paid in four years. It was 224 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 4: let me see if I can make some plays. Once 225 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: I start doing that, let me do this. And it 226 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: kind of just worked out that way, and I was 227 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 4: actually signed my deal the day before the drift, so 228 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 4: it was like a full circle moment. I got dropped 229 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 4: almost three years ago before I signed a deal, So 230 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: it was pretty cool. 231 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: And tell me how your conversations was with your brothers. 232 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how your relationship is with 233 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: your brothers, But my brother called me immediately. He was 234 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 2: sitting there on the stage with me. We sitting there 235 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: cheers and with my dad that night. You know, it 236 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: was just a really surreal moment because those are the 237 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: guys that you talk about it, which you dream about it, 238 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: whe you you grind through it with and to not 239 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: not that this is the peak of the mountain, but 240 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: just to to to kind of check another box off 241 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: the goals and accomplishments. How was that it was? 242 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: It was it was a good feeling. I remember. And 243 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: I was in the car. 244 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: This was like two days before the drift, so the 245 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 4: drivers in Detroit, and I was out in Detroit doing 246 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: some appearances and stuff that had already you know, committed 247 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 4: to months in event, so I was gonna be in 248 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 4: the troted the way and I was out there and 249 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 4: my agent called me. I was in the car going 250 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: somewhere to do an event whatever, and he goes, you know, 251 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: I think we gotta deal done, and so he runs 252 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: me through the deal I said, he said, I think 253 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: we should take this deal. I was like, let's do 254 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 4: it sounds good and so right after that I texted 255 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 4: my parents. I had a good child with my parents 256 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 4: and my two brothers. I said, the deal is done, 257 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: you know, four years and to the men, they were like, 258 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 4: my mom text me right away. She was in Germany 259 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: at the time, so the whole I think it was 260 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 4: like one am where she was at. But she answered 261 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: the phone. She texted right back. She actually called me, 262 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: but I was busy doing something else, so I andwered 263 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: real quick. 264 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 3: I said hold on, and. 265 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: She would just tell me how proud she was and 266 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 4: that she can't believe it. And then my dad texted 267 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 4: me that he's proud of me. My brother's texted me, 268 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 4: and then then it got leased some on Twitter, and 269 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 4: then everyone my phone just started blowing up and it 270 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: was over from then. 271 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: Right right, right then, it's over. It's have you got 272 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: a chance to spend any time with your brother since 273 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: the deal happened or with your family? You know, obviously 274 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: that day was so special, but do you get a 275 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: chance to like, you guys, got any traditions, you guys 276 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: meet up once a year or do anything like that. 277 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: Yes, So I actually live with my brother with Ocyrus. 278 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: I live with him in LA, so you know, we 279 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 4: lived together there, and then the ecuademics lives about five 280 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: minutes from in La, so we're always together. 281 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: We work out together, we do a lot of stuff together. 282 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 4: And then my parents only live live in Orange County 283 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 4: so it's like our way from LA so that's not far. 284 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: All. 285 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 4: They come and visit, eat dinner with us like once 286 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: every two weeks, so we're together a lot. We actually 287 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: went to Germany. I would say that was maybe a celebration. 288 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 4: We all went to Germany this summer. We had a 289 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 4: camp out there, which was super fun. But now we 290 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: spent a lot of time together as a family kind 291 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: of you know, just being able to spend time together, 292 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 4: maybe not necessarily celebrate the contract, but just to be 293 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: together because you never know, you know, life is too 294 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 4: short to not spend time with your family. 295 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: Exactly. It's football season and you could now get almost 296 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: anything you need delivered by over eats. What do we 297 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: mean by almost, Well, you can't get a running back delivered, 298 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: but you can't get baby back ribs delivered. A strong 299 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: defense that's an but a strong gyodorant that's a yes, 300 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: A six pack of abs definitely know, but a six 301 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: pack of beers. Uber Eats can get you that. There 302 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: you have it. You can get almost anything for game 303 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: day delivered with Uber Eats, official on demand delivery partner 304 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: of the NFL, Order Now Alcohol and select markets. Product 305 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: availability may vary by regions. See app for details. Let's 306 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: talk about your Detroit Lions family and Ben Johnson being 307 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: a big part of a lot of the success you 308 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: guys had offensively, him coming back was a big boom 309 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: for you guys. How surprised were you that that he returned? Yeah, 310 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: I was. 311 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: I was super surprised. 312 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 4: I would say I was surprised the year before then 313 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 4: when he returned and so he returned what that was 314 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 4: the anti championship year. So last year when he returned, 315 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: I was like, damn, I can't came back on site. 316 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 317 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 4: Let's running back. And then after last year, I have 318 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: my head said, I was like, oh, he's gone, Like already, 319 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 4: you know, I'll playing for to get a new offensive coordinator, 320 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 4: to learn new plays and I found out he was 321 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 4: staying again. I was like, oh my god, let's let's 322 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 4: keep it rolling. Man, just keep staying every year. He's 323 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 4: one of the he's one of the best. I think, 324 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 4: you know, he's I've only had two offensive corners in 325 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: this league. But to see the stuff that you know, 326 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 4: the plays that he designs, watching other teams play how 327 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 4: we do things. Granted we do have good players, but 328 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 4: he puts us in positions to win more times than not. 329 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 4: And man, his his work ethic, I think is unmatch 330 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 4: as a coach. 331 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: Talk to me about Jamison Williams because he seems like 332 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: it's got a really cool story. You know, obviously he 333 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: was banged up coming in they still drafted him. You know, 334 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: he had some spark, some some big plays last year 335 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship. I remember him getting the reversed 336 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: early and scoring a touchdown. But this year, it just 337 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: seems like he's finally like showing the promise that he 338 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: showed in college. And you know, obviously as a number 339 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: one receiver yourself just got paid. It takes some of 340 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: the stress off of you, you know what I mean, take 341 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: somebody eat off you take some of the double teams, 342 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: some of the brackets off of you. Tell me about 343 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: how you've helped his development and what he's been able 344 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: to do the last couple of years. 345 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jim was in a beast man. You guys can 346 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: see it. Finally, I feel like it's been a couple 347 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: of years. Took a couple of years to find it 348 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 4: for him to get going. But you know, he's had 349 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 4: some some hiccups along the way with the injury. Like 350 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 4: you said, last year, you know, they got him for 351 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: Gamble and so he missed a few games. So this 352 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: is final the first year we had a full OTAs 353 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 4: full training camp under his belt. You know, no setbacks, 354 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: no injuries, and now he's able to really showcase what 355 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: he can really do. And he's man. He's fast as hell. Man, 356 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 4: he can run. I think teams. Teams know that going 357 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 4: into the game, but it's different when you see it 358 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: on tape and they're actually out there running. So you know, 359 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: we have plays for him up every week of going 360 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: deep and you know everyone knows that it's not a secret, 361 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 4: but you got to stop it. 362 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: But he's been playing great for us. 363 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: In the last two games, he had one hundred and 364 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: twenty something yards of the first game, uh, last last game. 365 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 4: The second drive I think was the first play we 366 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: threw a pick on the first play we get comeback. 367 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 4: First play out, we threw a bomb to Ja fifty yards, 368 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 4: So him opening up the you know, being able to 369 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: open up plays for guys like me under that, you know, 370 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: catch more balls underneath. 371 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: It's super, you know, it's super. It's important, I. 372 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 4: Think for an offense to have different levels like that. 373 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: You got a guy you can't account for everyone you 374 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: got me Jamo, Demo Laporta, Jamiir Khalie. We got so 375 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: many weapons. That's like if you want to, you know, 376 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: you want to double me, all right, good luck one 377 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: of thee with Jamo Laporta, whoever else you want to 378 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: put a safety over the top of help with Jamo, 379 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 4: there might be some more room underneath. 380 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: So it's tough. 381 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 4: It's tough to play us, and I think, you know, 382 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: us having a bunch of different you know, weapons and 383 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 4: gadgets like that on our team. It creates you know, 384 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,359 Speaker 4: matchup nightmers for defenses. 385 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: How was it when when when Jared was traded, Like 386 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: when that news hit, you know, I'm sure you did. 387 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: I don't know how much you knew about him before 388 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: he got to Detroit, But I mean he could play. 389 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: He could play, and I think I think, you know, 390 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: he got the short end the stick early on. He 391 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: didn't have a good head coach with the Rams. He 392 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: was in a tell division. And then he got a 393 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: good head coach with Sean and then they went to 394 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Things didn't work out well, but he 395 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: played at a high level for a long time. So 396 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: what were you thinking about him? And what do you 397 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: think about him now as he's been your teammate and 398 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: helped you to a huge contract and helped this offense 399 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: be one of the top of the NFL. 400 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one of I think he's one of the 401 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: best in the league of what he does. Uh. 402 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: You know, I might be biased, but when I first 403 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 4: got to Detroit, you know, I knew he was a quarterback. 404 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 4: I knew he was traded obviously, I knew Stafford wasn't 405 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: there anymore. But I didn't really, you know, know too 406 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: much about him except for what I saw on TV. 407 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 4: I know he, you know, was a quarterback for the 408 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: Rams prior they went to the Super Bowl, lost the 409 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: pageot stuff like that, But I didn't know anything about 410 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 4: him as a human being, not too much of him 411 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: about to play as a player. I mean, like I said, 412 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 4: I saw the you know, saw the games on TV, 413 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: but it's kind of hard to know when you're actually, 414 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 4: you know, TV rest in person. So, you know, my 415 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 4: rookie year, Like I said, I wasn't, I wasn't really 416 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: worried about Jared. I was like, let me just see 417 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 4: what I can do to help the team win. If 418 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: he throws me a ball, you know, I got to 419 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 4: catch it. I got in the guard of place, and 420 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: then it kind of, as a year's gone gone on, 421 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 4: we built a kind of camerastry relationship. He's one of 422 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 4: the best dudes that I've been around. Great teammate, great leader. 423 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: I think his obviously everyone knows he's accurate and ornot, 424 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 4: but I think his ability to stay calm throughout games 425 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 4: is really what well to me as a player. 426 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: I haven't seen too many players do. 427 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 4: Like whether he's throwing a touchdown an interception, he's always 428 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 4: you know, for the most part, he is eating keel. 429 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: He's level headed. 430 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: I think that's important for a quarterback because you're making 431 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 4: a decisions out there, you know, every A lot of 432 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 4: the you know, pressure is on the quarterback to make 433 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 4: the right reads, getting the right protection, whatever it is, 434 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 4: and he's you know, he's looked so calm doing it. 435 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,239 Speaker 4: So I really, you know, I commend him for that 436 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 4: because I feel like it calms us down as players 437 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 4: in the offer when you're in the huddle. 438 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 3: When he's calm, shoot, everyone else's calm and can do 439 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: their jobs. So it's been. 440 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: Awesome, you know, to to play for him. I'm excited 441 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: to play for him for the next four or five 442 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: years whatever it is. 443 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: This this city of Detroit has been thirsting for success. Obviously. 444 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure they've told you many times about the lack 445 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: of playoff success, the lack of playoff appearance is so 446 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 2: to have that such an amazing run last year all 447 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: the way to the NFC Championship, the furthest that Detroit 448 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: has been in a long time are ever I believe, 449 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: how was the city and how has it been since then? 450 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 2: Because I mean, from the outside looking in, it looks 451 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: like the energy is incredible, The fans are super behind you, guys. 452 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: The city is just woken up and really embraced this 453 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 2: team and elevated and they're showing up in big ways, 454 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: but how have you seen it from a player's perspective. 455 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 4: The fans, man, I think they're the best. I think 456 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 4: the best in the world. Obviously, so I went to USC. 457 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 4: I've been in California my whole life. You know, there's 458 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: so much to do in California. I don't know what 459 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 4: the fans. The team's out winning, man, they're gonna go 460 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: to the beach, They're gonna go to Hollywood, They're gonna go, 461 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 4: you know, do something. Nos go to Santa Monica if 462 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 4: you're not. If you're winning, yeah, they might show up. 463 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 4: Still they might not. And Detroit they're showing up win loser, 464 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 4: draw there at every game. And you know, since my 465 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: rookie year, theyve been almost I mean it's been pacted 466 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 4: every game. But I can tell that it's only grown 467 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: since we started winning. The fans, man, the energy that 468 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 4: they bring is it's infectious. I feel like for us 469 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 4: as players home games, they're loud. I feel like we 470 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 4: might have won a lot of steams in the league. 471 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: Now. I don't know. 472 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 4: I know Chiefs, you know, Chiefs are loud. There's some 473 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 4: other loud ones. But I feel like we might be 474 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: up there. You got to ask the players I play 475 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 4: against us. I don't know, but I feel like, what 476 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: up there? 477 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: Man? 478 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 4: But now the fans of Detroit, Like I'll go out 479 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 4: to eat sometimes and people will come up to me 480 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: and be like, I just want to say thank you for, 481 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: you know, bringing life to the city, Like we just 482 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: want to thank you for what you guys have done. 483 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 4: And to me, it's like if I feel like in 484 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: La or in California, I would never get that, Like 485 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 4: there's so much to you. No fans coming up to 486 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 4: me talking about thank you for what you thank you 487 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 4: for what you're doing with the city. Like here, it's 488 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: like they live and breathe and die for football, and 489 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 4: so we're I'm glad that we're able to bring that 490 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 4: joy to these fans because they deserve it. They've stuck 491 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 4: with us for so long. But we just we want 492 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 4: to bring them more because they deserve it. So we 493 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: gotta we gotta keep going. 494 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: No question, no question. I mean, you're gonna die your 495 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: hair back blue. 496 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 3: I think I like that for the playoffs that I 497 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: think I might have to do it. 498 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: He kind of my tradition. I love that. I love that. Well, 499 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: who in this league. You know, you you see some 500 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: very talented receivers, But who's the toughest corner out there? 501 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: Because you've got some pretty good ones in your division? 502 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: Ji yere Jalen, I think Byron is as pretty good corner. 503 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: But who who you think is the toughest corner that 504 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: you've seen in this football league. 505 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 4: That's a good question, Tompest corner. A guy that I 506 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 4: really like is Patrick's Certain. He's one of my favorite booth. 507 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 4: I think he's you know, he got He's patient at 508 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: the line, can run, got size, is smart, can make 509 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: a play on the ball. I think he has you 510 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: know he has it. Also, he's He's definitely one of 511 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 4: my favorite dbs in. 512 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: This I think I think so too. I think he's 513 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: the best. You know, I like Sauce and what he's done. 514 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 2: But Certain is just so complete. I mean, you look 515 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: at him press, you look at him off, you look 516 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: at him in and chaotic situations. He does not care. 517 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: He's following the best receiver, he's jogging around. He's no 518 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: matter what the route is, he's competitive. He's always tight 519 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: in his coverage. I mean, it's hard to find a 520 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: clip where you're like hmm, that was a rough rep. 521 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: H He's nice, he's sticky. Yeah. What about receivers? You know, 522 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: obviously you guys were in a competition and who's going 523 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: to be the highest page this year? And somehow the 524 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: receiver market is boomed in a way that I never saw. 525 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: I never saw it coming. I can't I can't imagine. 526 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: I ever thought the receiver market would be bigger than 527 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 2: the tackle market in this sport. But it is. It 528 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: is right now. I mean, y'all are at thirty five million, 529 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: and whatever Jamar gets, it pushes it higher. What what 530 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: do you think has led to that? Because it's been 531 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: I mean it's been over the last couple of years, 532 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: because it wasn't always this way. 533 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't feel like you know, cap has gone up, 534 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 4: obviously that's big, but for us as players get it, 535 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 4: you know, more money be able to pay the players. 536 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: But I think, you know, receivers is such a growing position. 537 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 4: I think would become even more important as the years 538 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 4: have gone on. 539 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 3: I think there's so much more that goes into the 540 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 3: just football. 541 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: Obviously you've got football and us making plays, but you know, 542 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: you got jersey sales, You've got fantasy football, there's so 543 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: much that goes into receiver the start them and I 544 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: feel like, you know, one player gets played this, the 545 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 4: next guy's always gonna get a little more. The next 546 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: guy's gonna get a little more. So you just keep 547 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: upping and up and up, and then at some point 548 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 4: you're at what thirty five million now, so the next 549 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 4: guy might get thirty six, and then in two years 550 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 4: from now you might have thirty seven, thirty eight. And 551 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 4: I think there's so many good receivers in this league. Now, 552 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 4: if you ask me to name the top five, I 553 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 4: couldn't name. I can give you a top fifteen, top 554 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 4: twenty because I feel like each team has a, you 555 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: know one, a dominant receiver or to be soon dominant receiver. 556 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 4: So it's a passing league. It's the game is so offensive. 557 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 4: They want, you know offensive, score as many points as possible. 558 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: So that's that's right. That's talking about the way the 559 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: game is going. 560 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 4: You can't touch us, you can't grab us. They all 561 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 4: the rules up for us. We love, but we're not complaining. 562 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 4: But it's it's offense. 563 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: We are all the time. 564 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: We know you guys are. 565 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 4: But it's it's it's awesome to see man, I'm glad 566 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 4: you guys are getting paid. 567 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 3: Because they deserve it. 568 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: Did that have any influence on you doing the Receiver documentary? 569 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: And have you watched it? Yeah? 570 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: I watched it. No, and not really. 571 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 4: They actually came up to me. This was, you know, 572 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: right before our first game LASTIK against the Chiefs. That's 573 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: if I wanted to do it. I said, yeah, I'm down. 574 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 4: I'm down to do it, just you know, let me 575 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 4: talk to coach Campbell and see, if you know, get 576 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 4: his permission first, because I know cameras around on the team. 577 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: I don't want to be distracted to my teammates. He said, 578 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 4: it's all good. You can do as long as you're 579 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 4: not distraction. And so they were super, super easy. They 580 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 4: only came to you know, full one practice a week, 581 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 4: Wednesday practice. They always miked up for every game and 582 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: outside of the facility, they probably recorded me like six 583 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 4: or seven times on things that were like things that 584 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: I do regularly, not like oh, we want you to 585 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: go do this. It's like, hey, I go good dinners 586 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 4: on Fridays. Okay, can we come be a final record that? Sure, 587 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 4: let's do it. So it was super easy, super you know, 588 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 4: non invasive, and I'm glad I did it because, you know, 589 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 4: looking back in ten years, I can look back on 590 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 4: it with my kids. Whoever show them that, and it 591 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 4: was it was a lot of fun. We went far 592 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 4: in the playoffs. It was a good season, so. 593 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: It ended up working out beautifully. You got how many 594 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: kids you got? How many kids do I have? Mm 595 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: hmm zero? Okay, all right, that's it, tie day. Take 596 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: your time, take your time, keep practicing, right, keep practicing, 597 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 2: You'll be You'll get it one day. Oh well, I 598 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: know it's your off day, brother, and I know you know, 599 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: you could be anywhere in the world. I appreciate you 600 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: taking the time with me. A big fan of your game. 601 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: If you got any questions for me. You know, obviously 602 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: I played dB, so I'm here to complain about all 603 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: the rules and everything and say the game needs to 604 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 2: change back in my day. Kind of ordeal. I appreciate 605 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 2: it showing man. Thank you. 606 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 3: I love 607 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 4: The volume.