1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 2: And welcome back, George Nori with you. Roger Burnley with US. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 2: Renowned life and spiritual coach. Author. His book is called 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: Overcoming Fear, and he's a channel. Roger Channel's his higher 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: self named Wilhelm, a profound non physical intelligence delivering transformational 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: guidance for humanity. Roger, welcome back. Have you been George? 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm been great. I'm so glad to be back. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: I am getting so many great emails about you, my friend. 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: It's good to have you back. And how's the book? 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: How's the book Overcoming Fear? Which you wrote about six 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: years ago? 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 3: Didn't you correct? Now? That's when I released it in 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: And of course you are on Beyond Belief with me 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: about almost a year ago. 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, exactly. And I didn't know as much as 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 4: I do now. And that's why I'm glad to be back, 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 4: because so much has been revealed. 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: Tell us about Wilhelm. How did this evolution accur? Occur? 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty nine, I sat down to start doing it. 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: I decided to do automatic writing because I had heard 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 4: about it. I was looking for something because I've been 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 4: moving through a transition in my life and need some 24 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 4: help and just meditated, and all of a sudden I 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 4: started to get some connection that I didn't understand, but 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: it was helping me. 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: And I kept doing it. 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: Every single day, I'm writing something and I'm getting this 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 4: information that is giving me some guidance to move through 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: my life. And because I was going through a whole 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: bunch of things for many many years and I didn't 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 4: tell people, I just kept saving them and people found 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: them later about two thousand and seven or something like that, 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 4: and so then I started publishing them. 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: At that time, I thought they were just for me. 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: I thought they were just helping me to understand certain things. 37 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: And as it went. 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: On, they started being exposed to the public, and then 39 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 4: people wanted me to write more about it, and I 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: was hiding. 41 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: I said I didn't understand it. 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: And then it kept evolving as it was taking me 43 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: through all these difficulties that I was having in my life. 44 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: I was healing things that I didn't understand, physical things 45 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: and just understanding so much more, but I still was 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: kind of resistant about it all. And in twenty nineteen, 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: I thought, well, I've got to tell people something because 48 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 4: I knew that this information had helped me move through fear, 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: because I'd been fearful in my entire life, and I 50 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: knew that that's the thing that holds most people back. 51 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: So I said, I have to write this book. And 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: then even when I wrote it, I was said, well, 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: I was a little afraid to write it because I 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 4: didn't know what people were going to think of it. 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 4: But then it started to get I started to receive 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 4: these responses like it was really helping people. So I said, well, 57 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 4: I got to do more then, because that's always been 58 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 4: kind of my nature, is to help people. 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 3: I've always been that way in my entire life. 60 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: Now, the how did the Monarch of William come through. 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 62 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 4: It was when I first when the first communication happened, 63 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: it kind of startled me and I said, who's speaking 64 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: to me? And they said, well, this is your higher 65 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 4: self or another part of you, but if that makes 66 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: you uncomfortable, you can call us whatever you like. And 67 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: I just said Wilhelm. No clue as to why I 68 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 4: said that name, And then over the years it kept 69 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: being revealed to me why I picked that name, because 70 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: there were many figures throughout history that they were leading 71 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 4: me back to, because they were trying to explain that 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: we all have this intelligence that we connect to that 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: is eternal, but as we're living, we will connect to 74 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: certain parts of that. And so I kept finding the 75 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: aspects of Wilhelm that would make sense. And later on 76 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: I discovered that Gerta, the philosopher Gerta wrote a book, 77 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: wrote a series called Wilhelm Meister, The Search for Self Actualization, 78 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: and I thought, well, that's what I've been doing, and 79 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: that's what this work seemed to have been doing as well. 80 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: So there were just these different connections. But what they 81 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: wanted to say is that everyone has a connection. 82 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: That's what was coming through. 83 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: Is there something important that they've tried to impart through you? 84 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: Yes, that we would be moving through a big transition 85 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: in our world, and it was an energetic transition and 86 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: everyone had a part in it. And when they found 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: their part, meaning. 88 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: When you get together with Wilhelm, how do you do it? 89 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: Are you in a meditation state? 90 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: Yes, that's how I started. 91 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 4: I would always sit down and I would meditate and 92 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 4: it would just come to me and then I would 93 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: write I didn't know, didn't really make the connections at first, 94 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: but it was just starting making sense, and then it 95 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: was some It shifted in twenty twenty and that's when 96 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: they told me the world was changing and that this 97 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: information would help people understand and their role in the change. 98 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: Did you have doubts at all when this was happening. 99 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 5: Oh, George, Yes, that's why I didn't want to tell 100 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 5: any what are you kidding? So the first thing that 101 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 5: happened they said, they revealed to me in twenty twenty one. 102 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 5: They said, we've given you everything you need to know 103 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 5: about living a great life and creating a wonderful world, 104 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 5: and everyone has a part in it. And then they said, well. 105 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: If you meet someone, we've given you a message on 106 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: their birthday. 107 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: In twenty twelve. I said that makes no sense and 108 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: so I wasn't going to do it. 109 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: They said, no, there's an energetic connection for every single person. 110 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 4: And then I started testing it. So I would meet 111 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 4: someone asking their birthday, and it was something about that 112 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: particular message that would resonate for them. They said, all 113 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: the message would resonate for anyone, you know, most people, 114 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 4: but for their birthday would be a particular one. And 115 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: I found it even on your birthday, which was a 116 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 4: perfect one. 117 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: What's the master such they're trying to impart with us, Roger. 118 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 4: That we each have something within us. It's energetic, and 119 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 4: we come into the world. We all have things that 120 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: we bring with us from our ancestors, from those who 121 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: came that may not serve us living in this life 122 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 4: or creating the future life that we want to have 123 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 4: in the world. 124 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 3: And so if we understand our individual. 125 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: Role, that's an energy that we're each going to emit 126 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: and then we create something wonderful. 127 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: But we're going to typically go through a little. 128 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 4: Conflict because we don't like we don't we're afraid of 129 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 4: the unknown, and. 130 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 3: We were going to move through an unknown. 131 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: Time in our world. But they wanted us to understand 132 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 4: that it's also energy. And when we understand our individual energy, 133 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 4: what our role is, then we live these much better 134 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: lives and we created a better world. 135 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: Just before you came on, Roger, I had the Michael 136 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: Schrmer on the skeptic who is it seems to be 137 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: a believer in the afterlife. I mean, he wants to 138 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: believe in the afterlife. He wants to know that things 139 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: continue right. How do you convince how do you convince 140 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: people otherwise. 141 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 4: Well, when you understand everything is consciousness. When we're here, 142 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: we're focused on our physical bodies. But then we start 143 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: to have these memories of things sometimes we can't explain 144 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 4: because it's a consciousness. And so when I started to discover, 145 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: Wilhelm said, we gave you everything in twenty twelve, and 146 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 4: they did it in order because they wanted us to 147 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: understand there's an order in the universe. The very first 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: message in twenty twelve and January first set infitted intelligence. 149 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: Every soul has it and they just have to uncover 150 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 4: it within themselves. And they were going to we would 151 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: move through a time where they would be confused about 152 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: who they were, but this information would help them understand 153 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: that and create the life that they want to have. 154 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: Our other entities outside of Wilhelm coming to you, well. 155 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: It's a collection. They said. 156 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: We don't want people to separate these things, because that's 157 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: the problem in our world. 158 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: We've made separations. 159 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 4: And they don't want individuals to think that they have 160 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: to have some great power to be able to access 161 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: the higher self of them, because whatever they are accessing 162 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: is within them, and it's in their consciousness. And as 163 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: they unlock it, they start to understand themselves in greater depth. 164 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: Truly remarkable. Does there anything scare you about this, Roger? 165 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: Not anymore. You know, for the longest time, I saw it. 166 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 4: In the very beginning in twenty twenty, when I started 167 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 4: receiving messages that were different, they kept telling me you're 168 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: going through a restructuring, and that frightened me. I said, 169 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 4: what does that mean. It's going to be a little disruptive, 170 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 4: but we have to move through that to create something better. 171 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: We have to let go of our old world, our 172 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 4: old ideas about ourselves to create something more. 173 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: And that's what is. 174 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 4: So they didn't want people to be uncomfortable. They wanted 175 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 4: to know that it's an opportunity. Then they brought me 176 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: back to understanding why. They told me twenty twelve, most 177 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: people thought the world was a lot of people thought 178 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 4: the world was going to end in twenty twelve because 179 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: of the Mayan calendar, right, you know, in December twenty first. 180 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 4: But they gave me something different. They said, no, you're 181 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 4: building a new world and each person is going to 182 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 4: do it when they understand who they are. So they 183 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 4: gave me a message on December twenty first, of twenty 184 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 4: twelve that said weight, and they said weight is an 185 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 4: energy that if you hold on to it, you're going 186 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: to have this faith and create something much better as 187 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 4: you're moving through this transition. 188 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: Now, the title of your book is called Overcoming Fear. 189 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: What is that? Fear? 190 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 3: Typically of the unknown, of who we could become. 191 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 4: That's really what it is, because see we are we 192 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 4: become used to what we have known about ourselves, and 193 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: that becomes comfortable, and so exposing our real self is 194 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 4: for whatever reason, we've built up these ideas that maybe 195 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: we're not okay, maybe we shouldn't become who we're meant 196 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: to be, and so we hold back and what we 197 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: could appreciate, could do or accomplish in our own lives. 198 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: And so if we can address that basic idea that 199 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 4: it's we must change and the thing that we want 200 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: is always. 201 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: In that unknown, but sometimes we've become afraid. 202 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: How did you finally validate Wilhelm and realize this is 203 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 2: the real deal? 204 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: I healed so many things. 205 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it, and so then in twenty twenty one, 206 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: they kept urging me to give this to other people, 207 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 4: and so and I doubted it again and I put 208 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 4: a bunch of people in a program because I wanted 209 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: to see and I use the messages from twenty twelve 210 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 4: to see what would happen. And it blew me away 211 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: because they came out so different so quickly, and I go, 212 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 4: how did this happen? Surprised me? And Wilhelm said, that's 213 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 4: how you evolve. You all come in and gather information, 214 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 4: you give it to others, and that's how the civilization 215 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 4: goes on. And and so I saw that happening, and 216 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 4: it was it was tremendous, and so now I thought, 217 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 4: I've got to tell more people because I want them 218 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: to understand it. The other thing that happened when we 219 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 4: started developing artificial intelligence. I took a bunch of the 220 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 4: well Heeld messages and I put them in. I just said, 221 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 4: analyze these and tell me what they're saying. And they're 222 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 4: saying these are these are It's about an evolution and 223 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: consciousness that happens over time. And that's how I received 224 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 4: the information. And then they started showing me and I 225 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: didn't know this. This was unknown to me. And much 226 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 4: of the information I was receiving or doing a galactic 227 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 4: changes or a new moon or a full moon or 228 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: something like that, because those energies affect us and they 229 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 4: were giving me the information of how to navigate through 230 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: those particular times. I was completely unaware of that, and 231 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 4: then but with the artificial intelligence, they started verifying it 232 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 4: and in order certain days I would put down messages 233 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: on the same date over years, and it would come 234 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 4: out that it was an evolution of information and intelligence 235 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: that just grew over time, which is what happens with 236 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 4: us individually and also collectively as a collective, conscious, collective society. 237 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: Well with Roger Burnley, his website is his name linked 238 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 2: up at coast tocosdam dot com. What do you think 239 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: Wilhelm's core philosophy is. 240 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: That every person born has worth and value and all 241 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: they have to do is understand it and find it 242 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 3: within themselves. And the more of us who do that, 243 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: we see something different happening in our world and we 244 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 3: create the future. The last message that they gave me 245 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: on December thirty first of twenty two well was the 246 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 3: future saying that we are creating the future each of us, 247 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: and we individually do it in our lives and then 248 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: collectively we put that energy into the future world that 249 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: we create. 250 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: That is truly remarkable. Roger. 251 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a journey. 252 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: Was it a journey you would take again if you 253 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: had to go through it? Oh? 254 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: God, George, that's good yes. 255 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 4: Because now it was so painful. So much of my 256 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: life is so difficult and challenging and horrible. But now 257 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: it was worth it because it's other people don't have 258 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: to go. 259 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: Through it. 260 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: Now, will your help you? They don't, that's for sure. 261 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: I noticed on your website you had a special offer 262 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: for Coast to Coast listeners. What is this? 263 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: It's the journey that's going to take them through so 264 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: much of Wilhelm's work that they will understand who they are, 265 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: that'll open up so much more of who they are. 266 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: And so we created something a journey that they'll receive 267 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: and they just have to go to the website. Roger 268 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: Burnley dot com. Forward slash your Path, Pah. 269 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: Tell us about Alex, Sorry, tell us about Alex. 270 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: Oh, Alex far I did that? Was that was? Yeah? 271 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: That was the interview that I did Alex Ferrari at 272 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: Next Level. So that I did that interview because it 273 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 4: was coming through I didn't even understand it all. I 274 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 4: just knew that I had to talk and I was 275 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: I was so resistant, but I had to get this 276 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 4: to a much larger audience because I'd been hiding it, 277 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 4: and so I did Alex's show and all these folks 278 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: came in afterwards, I alway said, oh, then I have 279 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: to do more because people are wanting more information. I 280 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: just felt the energies of everyone, and I knew that 281 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: I was holding back and I didn't want others to 282 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 4: do that. 283 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 3: So that's why that came about. And it became so. 284 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: Explosive and things came out in that show, which he 285 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: pointed out to me because I did some channeling there 286 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: and I which I, you know, I never remember when 287 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: I'm doing it. But he said, wow, you answered that 288 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 4: right away, and that's when I started to make this 289 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: contact connection that I had this connection. You know, people 290 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: had told me before that I was a pure channel, 291 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: but I doubted that, and now I'm seeing that that 292 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: was actually what was happening. 293 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: And when you channeled, you're not aware of what you're doing, 294 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: are you. 295 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: No, I don't remember it. 296 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 4: I mean I get into place and I go into 297 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: a different state of consciousness and the information just comes through. 298 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: And it was just it was so surprising Just yesterday 299 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 4: I found an old session that I was listening to 300 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: from a year ago, and it was explaining everything that 301 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: was happening now and I had I had no memory 302 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: of it. 303 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: Willhelm come to you often? 304 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 4: Always yes, and even it's gotten more recently because they 305 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: wanted to show that we're in a really energetic phase 306 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: right now, and they wanted us to all understand because 307 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: not from not from a fear standpoint, but from an 308 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 4: empowerment standpoint. People will see things happening in our world 309 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: or in their lives that maybe uncomfortable, but it's really 310 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: an opportunity for them to start to own more of 311 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 4: who they are, to become more empowered, because that is 312 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: how we all evolve. And it's over time. When I'm 313 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: receiving information from Wilhelm, it's not it's not linear like that. 314 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: They've given me things that which fairy took a heart 315 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: long time for me to accept because they could pinpoint 316 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 4: days they showing you're going to be moving through this 317 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: and it was odd. Even now, I looked at the 318 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 4: message that was on the site last year for today, 319 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: and it's said that about everyone you were born for 320 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 4: this reason, every person they wanted them to under everyone 321 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 4: to understand that, and I couldn't figure out why how 322 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: I received it, and it was organized in order that way. 323 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: It's phenomenal and. 324 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: It's truly remarkable. And when you do the channeling, do 325 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: you give people advice on lifestyle and things like that health? 326 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: No, I don't know. 327 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 4: Well, if it's it comes through in a certain way 328 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 4: that they are not telling They're never tell others what 329 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 4: to do, They're just guiding them. It does it feel 330 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 4: aligned with their authentic self, with their sole purpose, with 331 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 4: whatever that is. 332 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: That's what And. 333 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 4: They're always kind of guiding people to make their empowered 334 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 4: choices from their own information, and so that's and there's 335 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 4: always a way that Wilhelm is asking questions of them 336 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 4: to get them to come to their clarity. 337 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast am every weeknight at 338 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 339 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: dot com for more