1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by All Copy Products, proud partner 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Allcopyproducts dot com. 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: So the fifteen of the tener He's Gonna score touchdown. 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Reports. 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: Slam to the ground by Puda Baker Like a torpedo. 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: He came flying into the backfield, Connor to the ten, 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: to the five and end of the end zone of 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: the touchdown. 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report is brought to you by 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals dot com Slash podcast. 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: Here we go, one handed catching a touchdown? 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 3: Oh baby, how's that fail? 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolou, Paul Calvic, and three time pro bowler 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Vandenbosch. 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 4: So it is the last week of the offseason for 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 4: coaches and players, and it might be the week in 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: which the most eyeballs are on the offseason. Welcome to 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: Mandatory mini camp. In other words, your presence is required, 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 4: and that is where we are here because every Tuesday 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 4: at eleven am, your presence is required here on the 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 4: Cardinals Red Seat Report, presented by see Geek your ticket 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 4: to Great Seats. Cardinals Coaches and players Paul as we 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: speak on the football field just behind Kylevin and Bosh 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: for mandatory mini camp. Not everyone on the field, but 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: I dare say that everyone is at somewhere in this building, 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 4: whether in the training room, weight room, or football field. 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a room with a view. Well done, 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: Craig Graelou. I mean, my goodness, you spend a big bucks. 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: We got the upper floor with a nice view of 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: both practice fields and a Cardinal's mandatory mini camp going 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: on as we speak or are fresh off that practice field. 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: There are plenty of takeaways and sites to see. I 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: know we'll get into all of that, but I tell you, 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: among other things, when a Cole mc James Connor and 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: a DJ Humphries and Will Hernandez say that we're going 36 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: to run the ball more, believe them. Believe them based 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: on what we've seen. 38 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: This is something that Kyle, You've always talked about that 39 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: all off season activities, at least for you, especially when 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 4: you were a player, was mandatory. But this is the 41 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: week that everyone points to because it is that last 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 4: week before you basically say goodbye for five and a 43 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: half weeks until the start of training camp. 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be nice to know that everybody is 45 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 5: here because everybody's moving forward at the same page, and 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 5: everybody wants to, you know, get everything worked out, to 47 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 5: get the offense in the defense, in prepare mentally physically 48 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 5: for training camp, find out where we're at, what we 49 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 5: need to continue to work on once training camp starts. 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 5: But I mean, the fact is some players just don't 51 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 5: want to be fine, so that's why they're here. But 52 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 5: you know, whatever you got to do to get people 53 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 5: in the building. But you know, I love the energy, 54 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 5: I love the vibe that I've seen up to this 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 5: point in the offseason, and you can expect that this 56 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 5: mini camp will those things will continue, that you'll hear 57 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 5: the excitement in the player's voices, that you'll hear the 58 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: vision from the coaches, and and you know it's it's 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 5: gonna feel like six months before training camp because you know, 60 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 5: to me as a player, you know, you after that 61 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 5: last mini camp, you get to kind of catch your breath, 62 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 5: you get to assess where you're at, figure out what 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 5: you need to do before training camp. But as a 64 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 5: analyst and a broadcaster and doing radio, it seems like 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 5: this is the worst part of the off season because 66 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 5: there's just no football to talk about in front of you. 67 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: It's no pads, not full speed. But it is offense 68 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: versus defense as far as Mini camp is concerned. This 69 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: phase three of off season strength and conditioning program. But 70 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: let's not talk any more around it. Let's just dive 71 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: right in. Buddha Baker number three. We were told by 72 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: Buddha himself way back at the end of May, in 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: a conversation that Buddha had with cam Cox over at 74 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: twelve Sports, that he would be in attendance during mandatory 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: minicamp when it was required for him to be here. 76 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: He would be here because he had not been a 77 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: parts of the off season since the off season began. 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 4: According to reports, he's asked for a trade. Well, the 79 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 4: latest on that was just twenty four hours earlier. Gem 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: Money Austin Ford on the Wolf and Luke Show talking 81 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 4: about Buddha Baker and is he or is he nuts 82 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 4: in the building? 83 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 6: Buddha was here. You know, we expected Buddha to be 84 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 6: here this week, and you know we were excited to 85 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 6: see him in the building and excited to have him 86 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 6: in here the rest of the week. You know, communication 87 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 6: between us and Buddha continues to be great. You know, 88 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 6: we've I've made my feelings very clear on how I 89 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 6: feel about Buddha, and you know, the rest of the 90 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 6: organization as well, and you know, we look forward to 91 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 6: continuing that dialogue here as we go, so in. 92 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 4: The rest of the week in the building, but as 93 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 4: we we're on the football field, Paul, during the open portion, 94 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: we did not see Buddha Baker, but if you go 95 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 4: buy what the general manager told Wolf and the Luk 96 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: on Monday, he's in the building and is in the 97 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: building this week. 98 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: We just might not see him on the football field. 99 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: And now what's part of that interview filling in for 100 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: Luke and I can just I bring that up because 101 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: it was the tone of the answers from the GM. 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: It was all positive. It was optimistic. Buddha wants to 103 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: be with the Cardinals. The Cardinals want Buddha to be 104 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: part of the future. He is part of the future. 105 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: He's part of the solution, not part of the problem. 106 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: They just have to figure it out. It's gonna come 107 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: down to the negotiations and where they're going to land 108 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: in terms of the dollar signs and some of the 109 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: other particulars. I'm guessing how much of it is guaranteed, 110 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: what are they going to do to renegotiate it. It's 111 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: sort of that fine line between if you're the GM 112 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: and you're a new GM okay and you're being tested 113 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: down this situation by a franchise player, how do you 114 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: decide between a player who's worthy versus setting a precedent 115 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: you want don't want to come back to you. But 116 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: once again, there aren't many players like Buddha Baker in 117 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: the league. He's very unique, and so this is a 118 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: unique situation, and I'm very optimistic that, just based on 119 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: the tone and the nature of the responses from maniasin 120 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: Ford himself, that he'll get this done and he'll be 121 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: on the field Week one at Washington. 122 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: Buddha is under contract for this season and next season. 123 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 4: None of those years have any guaranteed money on it. 124 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 4: Although let's let's point out the obvious. You're not going 125 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: to cut Buddha Baker, so he is going to make 126 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: what he is owed in twenty twenty three. Once he's 127 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: on that initial fifty three man roster, his contract becomes 128 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: guaranteed the rest of the season. My guess is is 129 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 4: Buddha is looking for something beyond that. But to Paul's point, Kyle, 130 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 4: it's you've got two years. Typically, this is a conversation 131 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 4: you have with one year left on your contract, and 132 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: I'm very curious what the team decides to do, if anything, 133 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: based off of we all love and respect Budda Baker 134 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: the player. Yet there are a number of players that 135 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: could be in a similar situation. Say well, if him, 136 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: why not me? 137 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, something's gonna happen. I mean, when you hear Manteasin 138 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 5: Fortz say that negotiations are progressing and moving forward, these 139 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 5: conversations are happening. If nothing was going to happen, these 140 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 5: conversations wouldn't be occurring and there wouldn't be progress. And look, 141 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 5: you know, we talked so much about this culture that 142 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon has brought in. Buddha Baker is your culture. 143 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 5: I mean he is you know. I remember playing for 144 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: Coach Swartz and Detroit and he consistently said to be 145 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 5: a good team, your best players have to be your 146 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 5: hardest workers and your best leaders. And that is Buddha Baker. 147 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: He is your hardest worker. He is your best leader. 148 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 5: I mean he is a pro bowler, he is an 149 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 5: All Pro he is a captain, and just the fact, look, 150 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 5: he's not out on the football field. In an ideal world, 151 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 5: he would be out there with his teammates. But just 152 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: seeing him in the building, it lifts up everybody in 153 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 5: this locker room. Is not only a phenomenal player and 154 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 5: a phenomenal leader. You know, probably he's ninety percent of 155 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 5: this roster's favorite teammate and just having him around shows 156 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 5: you know, look, he's in. We just got to get 157 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 5: some of these things ironed out. Look, players, you understand 158 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 5: this process, the players in that locker room. You don't 159 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 5: love it, you know, you don't always agree with some 160 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 5: of the business side of it, but you understand that 161 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 5: when push comes to shove, your dogs are gonna be there. 162 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 5: And Buddha Baker is a dog and he will be 163 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 5: a part of this team in the fall one way 164 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 5: or another. And you know this is what this window 165 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 5: after mini camps, look, Mani Assinford has in Jonathan Gannon 166 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 5: since they've been hired, have had a whirlwind of things 167 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 5: to deal with. Now they can take a step back, 168 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 5: have some time to deal with these types of things 169 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 5: more of the business side of football. 170 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: Buddha has been made the example whether it was the 171 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: general manager or the head coach, as far as this 172 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 4: is what this is the type of player, this is 173 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 4: the type of person that we want in the building. 174 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: We hope to hear more about Buddha Baker and not 175 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: on the field, in the building one way or the other. 176 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: Head coach Jonathan Gannon will address reporters once practice ends again. 177 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 4: Mini can't practice currently still in progress as we speak 178 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: here on this Tuesday morning. But Kyle, you bring up culture, Well, 179 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: that was a subject that was brought up when DJ 180 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 4: Humphries met the media not long ago here in the offseason. 181 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 7: You got to get off the pot. If you don't 182 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 7: buy in, you're gonna be gone. So it's like, you 183 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 7: know what I mean, that's the mentality. It's it's pretty simple. 184 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 7: Guys can smell it and it happened. It's clear, very clear. 185 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 7: It ain't a lot of like baby in and showing favoritism. 186 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 7: If you don't want to do it, you don't gotta 187 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 7: do it. We're gonna get somebody else to do it, 188 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 7: and you're just gonna be sad about it after because 189 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 7: you're not gonna get a chance again. So it's like 190 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 7: that's that's the mentality. So I think guys are seeing 191 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 7: that and the understanding that this you do it or 192 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 7: you don't. Ever you can tell everything matters, and it 193 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 7: is for me, being an older guys, I love to 194 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 7: see it because it's like, it's that's football, that's what 195 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 7: the NFL is. 196 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 4: I'm guessing Kyle, that's a message that you understand. You've 197 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: probably heard several times over your career, because if it's you, 198 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: then there's a line behind you that would jump at 199 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 4: the chance to do what you're doing on Sundays. 200 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 3: Oh. 201 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 5: Absolutely, That's part of the message of culture. But look, 202 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 5: if you're going to have a good team, you can't 203 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 5: just assemble talent. You can't just bring in coaching geniuses. 204 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 5: Culture alone can win and lose games for you. If 205 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 5: you have a good culture, if you buy in, if 206 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 5: you dial into the fundamentals and the game plan and 207 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 5: that's your culture. If your culture is work, if your 208 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 5: culture is being physical, those things alone can win you 209 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 5: a game in week eight, in week thirteen, whereas more 210 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 5: talented teams will take the field, they didn't practice hard, 211 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 5: they didn't dial in, they didn't they don't have this 212 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 5: type of culture it takes to be consistent. The culture 213 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 5: will bring you consistency on Sundays, and so you know, 214 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 5: that's where this team is moving forward. Look, we're going 215 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 5: to continue to assemble talent on this team. I believe 216 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 5: we've got a great coaching staff. And so it's going 217 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 5: to be about the leaders buying into the culture and 218 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 5: sending that message to the younger players so that they 219 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 5: understand the culture and. 220 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: What it takes. 221 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 5: Because look, football is a grind and the season is long. 222 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: It is so long, and so once you get to 223 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 5: week fourteen, fifteen sixteen, if your players aren't bought into 224 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: that culture, you're going to fade late in those seasons. 225 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 5: And so that's you know, to hear a veteran like 226 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 5: DJ Humphries talk about culture and to hear guys in 227 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 5: this locker room and the coaching staff, it's it's not 228 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 5: just lip service. I mean, we can just look at 229 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 5: the NBA Playoffs. The Heat rode culture all the way 230 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 5: to the finals. They weren't the most talented team. They weren't. 231 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 5: They didn't have, you know, a group of a super 232 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 5: team of all stars, but they robed that culture and 233 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 5: it carried them and they were never out of a game. 234 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 5: They were never out of a series. They believed and 235 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 5: they relied on, you know, that culture to get them there. 236 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: Winning behavior. You hear that a lot from Jonathan Gannon. 237 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: Is that winning behavior, you know it when you see it, 238 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: and he uses that in trying to shape that culture. 239 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 2: Zavi and Collins told the story of walking into the 240 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: first team meeting. He's got his breakfast in hand. He's multitasking. No, 241 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: he got put on blast, because when you're multitasking, you're 242 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: not one hundred percent focused on the task at hand. 243 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 2: And guys, we've talked about this. There was mistake Leyden 244 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: football that cost the Cardinals. How many times in the 245 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: postgame show were you guys talking about Cardinals beating Cardinals? 246 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: They were their own worst enemy. Two of the last 247 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: three years, the Ears and the Cardinals have been near 248 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: the league leaders in penalties. That's gonna cost you games 249 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: where a single play can make the difference in an 250 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: NFL outcome. That's how closely contested these games are. And 251 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: when you're not, when you don't have an abundance of talent, 252 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: then guess what, you better make sure you don't beat yourself. 253 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: So I think that's part of this culture. They're trying 254 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: to establish and so when players like Zaban also say 255 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: that they're feeling the pressure. Yes, there's expectations that if 256 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: you don't meet that standard, then guess what they're going 257 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 2: to be looking for someone who will. And there's only 258 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: a handful of guys I think, who are made men 259 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: on this roster. There aren't a lot of allegiances between 260 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 2: the new decision makers, the head coach, and the GM. 261 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: And I think that's why you're seeing so many players, 262 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 4: whether on the field or working out on the side, 263 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 4: or in the training room, making sure that they're in 264 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: the building. 265 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 3: I e. 266 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray spotted watching mini camp practice, zach Ertz spotted 267 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: working with the training step getting back from that ACL injury, 268 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: slightly jogging, ramping up to making sure that he puts 269 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 4: that emphasis to get ready week one. 270 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: Now do we see zach Ertz week one? Do we 271 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: see Kyler Murray week one? 272 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: Those are questions that we still don't know. But the 273 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: work is being put in here at the end or 274 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: middle of June to make sure that you're ready at 275 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 4: the middle of September, just getting started here. 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Hey, okay, so so twelve go ahead, twelve 283 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 6: thirty four and one sixty eight for six and eighty one. 284 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 5: Okay, call it in. 285 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: Okay. 286 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: Who was not on the edge of their seats watching 287 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: the latest episode of Cardinals Life Plans? 288 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: Just those first. 289 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: Two two and a half minutes of the episode in 290 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: which cameras took inside the draft room where General Manager 291 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 4: Monty Austin Fort wheeled and dealed quite literally, dropping from 292 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: three to twelve up to six to land Paris Johnson Junior, 293 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: all chronicled in Cardinals Flight Plan. And let's take a moment, gentlemen, 294 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 4: to discuss General manager Manti asin Ford, because I think 295 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 4: Paul Monni needs a nickname, and there's a number of 296 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 4: different suggestions out there, but just to see the man 297 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: work and as calmly as he did it, with the 298 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 4: head coach smiling the entire time, Owner Michael Bidwell leaning back, 299 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: smiling the entire time, just marveling at what MONI was doing, 300 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 4: number of different phones, number of different conversations to a 301 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 4: number of different people to get not only their future 302 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: perhaps franchise starting left tackle, but additional draft capital for 303 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: next year. 304 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: I mean more than a month later, just watching it 305 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: on video. I got nervous just watching it and getting 306 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: the all access. So you can't imagine what maniasin Ford 307 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: as a rookie GM was like in the moment. But 308 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: here's a man with no fear. I amc the Cardinals 309 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: Charity Golf Uram a couple of weeks ago, and he 310 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: actually teed it up after more than a decade of 311 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: not having played golf. So obviously he has no fear. 312 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: He's gonna put his game on display for everyone. He 313 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: got up there. He had multiple teams on the line. 314 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon has half joke multiple times that when it 315 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: got under two minutes on the clock, like Jonathan Gannon 316 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: was gripping like, okay, maybe we need to pull the trigger. 317 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: Let's make a decision. But this is something that was 318 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: orchestrated beginning at the combine, and so you had certain 319 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: knowledge of certain teams and what they were willing to do, 320 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: and so you had sort you had a deal in mind, 321 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: perhaps at least the foundation of it, and then okay, 322 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: you're on the clock and you try and figure out 323 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: who's serious, who isn't and uh, and you saw what 324 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: they did. I mean, it's it's remarkable. It's remarkable to 325 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: get the player you targeted and end up with Houston's 326 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: first round pick in twenty twenty four. 327 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: It's rare, Kyle, to know what happened and then still 328 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 4: be nervous. To Paul's point about watching that, because the 329 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: only person that was not nervous in that draft room 330 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 4: was Manti Austin, for he knew exactly what he was 331 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 4: doing and got to the finish line. 332 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 5: Oh, this is no question. I rewatched it again this 333 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 5: morning to prepare for the show, and my Apple Watch 334 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 5: thought I was working out. I mean, my heart was racing. 335 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 5: It was incredible. It was incredible. And look, the next 336 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 5: time I go to a car dealership, I'm gonna see 337 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 5: if I can bring Monty Austin for it with me. 338 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 5: It's good because I guarantee you I'm gonna get the 339 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 5: best deal possible and they're not gonna make me get 340 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 5: fabric protection and undercoding. I'm gonna I'm gonna walk away 341 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 5: with the best deal possible. So I hope, hope he's 342 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 5: available to come along with me. But I mean, it was, 343 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 5: it was awesome. It was and to know, we didn't 344 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 5: know it at the time, but in retrospect, this is 345 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 5: exactly how they planned it, and this is the moves 346 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 5: that they wanted to make and to get the player 347 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 5: that they wanted to get and to hear, you know, 348 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 5: to not be forced seller where you know they're whispering, well, 349 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 5: this one appears to be an even deal and he's like, 350 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 5: that's not enough, or you know, I saw your offer 351 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 5: and it's not enough. In that moment, you would think, 352 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 5: to me, I just I imagined that all the deals 353 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 5: would be laid out ahead of time, and on the 354 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 5: clock he's demanding more and and that that's incredible, And 355 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 5: you know, it's like he the way he was calm, 356 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 5: he was completely willing to walk away from any deal, 357 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 5: and and you love that he again, as a GM, 358 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 5: you know, you don't want to be a forced seller. 359 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 5: And and to me, it gives me so much confidence 360 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 5: that going forward, you know that we're gonna we're not 361 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 5: ever going to be at anybody else's mercy or they're 362 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 5: not gonna hold our feet to the fire to get 363 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 5: a bad deal. We're gonna at least come out of 364 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 5: these draft trades, these uh other trades with with players 365 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 5: and with the best deal for the Arizona Cardinals. 366 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: I mean, if we go to lunch after this show, 367 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: it'll take me more than ten minutes to decide on 368 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: the lunch menu what I'm going to have. Okay, So 369 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: here's the decisive person in the moment, with the future 370 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: of the franchise hanging in the balance, and he knocked 371 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: it out of the park. That was draft night. 372 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 4: Just yesterday, Wolf and Luke with the gentleman to my right, 373 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 4: Paul Calvic filling in general manager Monti. Austin Ford asked 374 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 4: about those moments on night one of the twenty twenty 375 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: three NFL Draft. 376 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 6: You know, we had a few things that we were juggling. 377 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 6: There a few different offers that we were working through, 378 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 6: and so that that, you know, it just takes time. 379 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 6: And when I think, I think the last time I 380 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 6: looked at the clock, I want to say it was 381 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 6: a minute forty something like that when we finally got 382 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 6: the deal pushed through to the end. So you know, 383 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 6: we didn't make it easy on ourselves, but hey, we 384 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 6: got there in the end. 385 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 3: And this goes back to what you said, Paul. 386 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: This was conversations that started maybe at the scouting combine, 387 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 4: maybe even earlier than that, because this is you can't 388 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 4: just go in in night one, that Thursday morning, Thursday 389 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 4: Afternoon's all right, let's see if we can't do X, 390 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 4: Y and Z. Now, these pieces to the puzzle have 391 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 4: to be laid out well. 392 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: In advance in order to get that nice picture that 393 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: you want. 394 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: And he admitted afterwards that he really did not know 395 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: what was going to happen at number two. 396 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: Was C. J. 397 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: Stroud that the Houston Techans to get a good job 398 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: of creating confusion as to exactly what was going to happen. 399 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: So not until they put in their pick and they 400 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: realized quarterbacks went one, two, And then the surprising thing 401 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: to everyone, the Texans were willing to come all the 402 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 2: way up for will Anderson at three. So those weren't 403 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: necessarily I think what I heard. If I remember the 404 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 2: comment from Jonathan Gannam in another setting, he said they 405 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: ran through fifty plus scenarios and that scenario was not 406 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: among them. So to some degree. Was this premeditated? Did 407 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: they have certain teams in mind and structure of a 408 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: deal in mine, Yes, But the manner of which it 409 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: went down in real time on that draft board was 410 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: not something that Cardinal's forecasted. So for maniasap Ford to 411 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: be able to pivot and react accordingly all that much 412 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: more impressive. 413 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 4: Well, there were conversations with the Seahawks at five, with 414 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 4: the Raiders at seven, as the Cardinals were sitting there 415 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: at twelve, knowing that they wanted to get back into 416 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 4: the top maybe what seven or eight because they had 417 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: their eye on Paris Johnson Junior ultimately, and that's the prize. 418 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 4: And then Kyle, you just look, everyone's focused on this 419 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: upcoming season. But then the draft capital four next year. 420 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 4: If you include the projective compensatory pick for losing Zach 421 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: Allen in free agency, that's eleven draft picks with six 422 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 4: in the first three rounds. 423 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 5: It's exciting. And you know, to me, the exciting part 424 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 5: was is watching Montiasapfort, watching the team of people he 425 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 5: had assembled, and everybody had a role on draft day. Look, 426 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 5: when you were on the clock, everybody was doing something. 427 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 5: Somebody was making phone calls, somebody was dialing the phone, 428 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 5: somebody was calculating, you know, the value of the picks, 429 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 5: and it all came together seamlessly, and saying that, you know, 430 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 5: they've already talked about this offseason to a degree, they're 431 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 5: kind of blending the old system and the new system. 432 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 5: Next year it will be montiasen Fort's system, and he 433 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 5: will be able to roll the way he's used to 434 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 5: rolling and have the people in place doing the things 435 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 5: he wants them to do. So you know, this was 436 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 5: kind of a it was a trial balloon with a 437 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 5: mixture of the two systems. When he's got his scouting 438 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: department doing it the way he wants to do it 439 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 5: next year, it will be run even smoother than it 440 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 5: looked on flight plan this year. 441 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: And again, this is a first time general manager. 442 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: It's not like it's the first time that he's been 443 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 4: in a draft room, but the first time in which 444 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 4: all eyes are on you, and that that's a different 445 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 4: kind of feeling internally, when the spotlight is shine and 446 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it's like, okay, here are the keys, 447 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 4: It's on you. 448 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: And look, all the attention goes on Paris Johnson Junior, 449 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: and I fully expect him to contend for a starting 450 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: spot on this offensive line from day one. But if 451 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: you really want to build a team and a roster, 452 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: it's day two and three. And I would say, and 453 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 2: you guys can agree or disagree based on everything we've 454 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: seen in the OTAs and now today in mini camp, 455 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: players like Dante Stills, the d Lyman out of West 456 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: Virginia in round six, the corner key Troll Clark out 457 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: of Louisville in round six as well. These guys, these 458 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: guys are are factors, I think, and those are two 459 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: position groups of need, but I think they're going to 460 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: be part of the rotation and really threatening. 461 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 4: Camp nine player draft class in twenty twenty three all 462 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 4: can be contributors this season. 463 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: This is the Arizona Cardinals Rightio Network ten thirty, ten twenty. 464 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: And the fifteen to ten cut down. Kyler Murray, you 465 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: are ridiculous, Urry Madgick. Nasty is as nasty does. 466 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 3: And we all know that Kyler Murray is nasty. 467 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 4: The stuff you see in dreams and in video games. 468 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have a great relationship. 469 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 8: You know. He's he's a direct reflection of me. The 470 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 8: vision that we have for him is to maximize his 471 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 8: skill set. You say, well, that's kind of general. 472 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 473 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 8: He can throw it over your head. He can beat 474 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 8: you on first, second, and third level throwing it, and 475 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 8: he can beat you on the first, second, third level 476 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 8: running it. 477 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: Question again, though, is when we will see that happen 478 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three Kyle the Murray head coach Jonathan Gannon. Yeah, 479 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 4: that relationship is happening, but it is happening away from 480 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 4: the field of play here this offseason, as we say, 481 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: welcome to the second half of the Cardinals Red Sea 482 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 4: Report presented by seat Geek your ticket to Great Seats, 483 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 4: Craig Reyolu, Paul Calvici, and Kyle Vinnenbosch. The second half 484 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 4: here talking about the offense, also with an eye on 485 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 4: head coach Jonathan Gannon as the first mini camp practice 486 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 4: has wrapped up, so. 487 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: We'll see if we get any updates i e. 488 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 4: Buddha Baker or anything else that the head coach might 489 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 4: have to say when he speaks with reporters. But just 490 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 4: that conversation between quarterback and head coach, Kyle, that's the 491 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 4: relationship that is the utmost of a importance, regardless of 492 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: whether it's an offensive minded head coach or a defensive 493 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 4: minded head coach, because your success and failure as a 494 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 4: head coach rests on the shoulders of whoever is taking snaps. 495 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 5: Oh, you're absolutely right, and that relationship needs to there 496 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 5: needs to be respect that flows both ways. And I 497 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 5: think you can hear that when you hear Kyler talker. 498 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 5: You can hear that when here Jonathan Gannon. They respect 499 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 5: each other. And I think you know when when you 500 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 5: look at the two the thing, the common thread is 501 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 5: they are both ultra competitive, like all they want to 502 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 5: do is whatever it takes to win. And you know, 503 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 5: Kyler Murray, you can see how much of a competitor 504 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 5: he is, how hard he's worked this offseason to try 505 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 5: to get back. Now saying that, like you know, I 506 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 5: know it's going to be a common constant refrain talking 507 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 5: about his health. When is he going to be back? 508 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 5: When is he going to be back? When is he 509 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 5: going to be back? The most important thing and you 510 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 5: win a as a player. Again, I've talked about this 511 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 5: with coach Gannon, and you need to know that your 512 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 5: head coach, that your coordinator and your position coach have 513 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 5: your best interest in heart and They've never rushed this process. 514 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 5: You've never heard a sense of urgency in their voices, like, 515 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 5: you know, we just need to get him out there 516 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 5: and get him out on the field as soon as possible. 517 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 5: They care about the player, and in turn, the player 518 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 5: is invested, like you will do what it takes for 519 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 5: your coach and for your team when you know that 520 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 5: everybody around you wants the best for you, and in turn, 521 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 5: you will invest back in the team. And I love 522 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 5: their relationship. I love how you know. One of the 523 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 5: first things at Jonathan Gannon's introductory press conference talked about, 524 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 5: you know, the reason I took this job was because 525 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: of Kyler Murray. It wasn't I took this job and 526 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 5: I inherited Kyler Murray. It is I wanted to be 527 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 5: here because of him and just the support that they've 528 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 5: shown him through this process, because look, you know, I've 529 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 5: been there. Injuries and rehab is a long, lonely process 530 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 5: and you feel like you're not a part of the team. 531 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 5: But they've done everything they can to involve him, to 532 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: engage him, to let him know that when you return, 533 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 5: this is You've got the keys to the car, and 534 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 5: we're gonna be there. And we're gonna support you. 535 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 4: Surgery was January third, so we're a little bit more 536 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: than five months into that rehab host surgery. And we've 537 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 4: seen Kyleer Murray spotted on the football field. Haven't seen 538 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 4: him do anything, but he does have the walkie talking 539 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 4: in hand, meaning he is listening to whether it's the 540 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 4: head coach or offensive coordinator Drew Petsing relay in the 541 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 4: calls to the quarterbacks that are healthy enough and throwing 542 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: on the field. So you're getting those, as we say, 543 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 4: the mental reps versus the physical reps. 544 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: We don't know. We don't know. Will he be back 545 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: in September, Will he be back after Halloween. We're not sure. 546 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: What we do know is that when he comes back, 547 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: he still has one of the most unique skill sets 548 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: in the NFL. NFL Network the other day had to 549 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: replay at Cardinals Seahawks Week nine State Farm Stadium from 550 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: this past season. I'm not exactly sure why, but that 551 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: was the game where the Cardinals finally had a touchdown 552 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: drive in their very first possession and as part of 553 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: that drive, it was third and long and Kyler ripped 554 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: off a big old chunk run right play broke down, 555 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: he took off. He's one of the few quarterbacks, one 556 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: of the few players in the NFL who can do that. 557 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 2: And just the frustration in the Seattle defense where you 558 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 2: think you've got everything covered and then the Q takes 559 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: off and reaches the chains and then boom, continues the 560 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: drive and ended up with the DeAndre Hopkins touchdown, catch 561 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: and run. It just I'm very curious to see what 562 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: Drew Petson and Jonathan Gannon have in mind, especially gain 563 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 2: in the last two years with the Jalen Hurts, Drew Petson, 564 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: what is able to do with the Jacoby Brissett and 565 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: the Deshaun Watson and then the run game. You know 566 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: what a Nick Chubb and we've heard those comparisons to 567 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: a James Connor, just everything blending into one. But this offense, 568 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: once you get Kyler Murray back, will be very, very 569 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: unique because there's only one Kyler Murray on this Until 570 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: you get them back, you can maximize what you're going 571 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: to do offensively. 572 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 4: You brought up Drew Petsing. Let's hear from the Cardinals 573 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator on his quarterback absorbing the offense, but just 574 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 4: not on the football field. 575 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 9: It's a language, So he's got to learn to speak 576 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 9: the language and understand the language to make sure that 577 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 9: when he does hit the field, he's not thinking about that, 578 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 9: because if he's thinking about that and performance, the performance 579 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 9: will struggle. Whereas if he can get the language down 580 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 9: and the understanding of the reads and the footwork and 581 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 9: what we're asking him to do, his physical talent's there. 582 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 9: I think we've all seen that, So we got to 583 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 9: be able to let that take over, and I think 584 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 9: he's really embraced that. You know, it's not always the 585 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 9: called the sexy work, but it's really important to go 586 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 9: out there and perform on Sunday, and he's done a 587 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 9: great job of it. 588 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 4: So until Kyler returns, you've got Colt McCoy, you've got 589 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 4: Jeff driscoll, you've got David Bloud, you've got Clayton Tone. 590 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 4: You fit the round draft pick from this past draft. 591 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 4: So you have four healthy quarterbacks. The question is what 592 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 4: do you do with those four healthy quarterbacks. We all 593 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 4: assume that if Kyler is not going to be ready, 594 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 4: then it would be the veteran in that room, Colt 595 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 4: McCoy as your Week one starter. So it's a cumbent 596 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 4: upon him and everyone else to learn the offense. Here's 597 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: Colts on what he is doing here as he gets 598 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: ready to enter year fourteen in the National Football League. 599 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 10: You know, my number one priority is learning the system, right, 600 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 10: It's it's new, it's different. There's things as a quarterback 601 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 10: that you got to know that other people don't. So 602 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 10: there's a lot of thinking going on out on the 603 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 10: field and a lot of like, first time I'm seeing 604 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 10: play is okay, like you know, understanding and processing it, 605 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 10: and then in my mind, like I don't know if 606 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 10: Kyler's gonna be healthy or not. You know, I think 607 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 10: we all certainly hope that he is, but if he's not, 608 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 10: I'm one hundred percent gonna be ready to go. 609 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 4: You hear Colt mentioned that he's doing things that maybe 610 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 4: he hasn't done in a while, Kyle, or hasn't done 611 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 4: in a long time. But he has been on so 612 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 4: many different teams, been a part of so many different systems. 613 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 4: But just listening to hear him speak, yeah, he'll be 614 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 4: thirty seven when the season begins, but he's sounds like 615 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 4: a youngster because this is all new, and he almost 616 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: feels like there's a renewed energy within himself that yeah, 617 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 4: I perhaps maybe could have walked away at the end 618 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 4: of last season, but no, I still love this game. 619 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: I love to play. I want to be on the 620 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: football field. 621 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you just love I love hearing Colt McCoy 622 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 5: talk like he If you could write down a list 623 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 5: of characteristics of what you want your backup quarterback to 624 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 5: look like, sound like, and how to carry himself, it 625 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 5: is Colt McCoy. I mean, he shows support for the starter. Look, 626 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 5: he knows his role. His role is to be ready 627 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 5: at the drop of a hat, any moment, anytime during 628 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 5: the season. He needs to be ready. And you can 629 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 5: be confident that if Kyler Murray were healthy and he 630 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 5: were starting Game one, Colt McCoy would not prepare any 631 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 5: different than he's preparing now. And again, I know we've 632 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 5: talked about this, We talked about this last week. He 633 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 5: has done everything and he has seen everything. He's been 634 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 5: in the league long enough, and that's that's not the 635 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 5: case with every veteran backup. You know, it's he is 636 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 5: a smart, smart quarterback, like he knows every in and 637 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 5: out of the game. And just hearing him talk about 638 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 5: how you know, I need to see more than any 639 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 5: other player on the football field. I need to know 640 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 5: what my ex Y and Z receiver, how they line up, 641 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 5: what their motions are, what they're doing versus various coverages 642 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 5: on every single play. And you could be confident again 643 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 5: that if it's Colt McCoy week one, he will be 644 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 5: fully prepared. And again, the thing I love about listening 645 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 5: to him, it doesn't matter if if he was told 646 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 5: you're going to be the backup game one, he's going 647 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 5: to prepare the same. And so just as a coach 648 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 5: and as a coaching staff, you have that security blanket 649 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 5: knowing that your number two will always be dialed into 650 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 5: the game play and your number two will always be 651 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 5: ready whenever called upon. 652 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: Think about it, Kyler Murray from day one was QB one, 653 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: never had a chance to actually sit behind a veteran 654 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: watch learn. Do you guys think there's value in that? 655 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: If Colt is the starter week one, first month, Kyler 656 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: gets to sit and watch a little bit. And I wonder, 657 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: especially in a more complex offense, theoretically, then I wonder 658 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: if that's a benefit to Kyler Murray learning. 659 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 4: In the classroom and then taking what you learn out 660 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 4: onto the football field. Hey, Cardinal fans team up with 661 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 4: the Cardinals and State Farm by donating a backpack filled 662 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 4: with school supplies for students in need in the Tempe 663 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 4: Elementary School District. Support our virtual back to School drive 664 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 4: from now through June twenty third. Got Azycardinals dot com 665 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 4: slash back to school. That's Azycardinals dot Com slash back 666 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 4: to the number school. It is the Cardinals red zea 667 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 4: report right here on the Arizona Cardinals right doing network. 668 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 8: The vision of how I want to play defense and 669 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 8: how I want the defensive players to act and the 670 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 8: coaches to serve the players. He had that vision. He 671 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 8: shared that vision with me. Very high capacity, very high character, 672 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 8: which where those were the two most important part of 673 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 8: pieces for me hiring coaches. And he has those and 674 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 8: complete faith in Nick to run the defense. 675 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 4: The nick is Nick rawlis new Cardinals defensive coordinator and 676 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 4: why he was hired, according to head coach Jonathan Gannon. 677 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: As we continue here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report 678 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 4: presented by seed Geek, your ticket to great seats before 679 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 4: we get into rawless and what we anticipate that this 680 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 4: defense might look like. We did say at the onset 681 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 4: that we would give you any updates. When JG addressed 682 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 4: the media concerning Buddha Baker and the news is this, Yes, 683 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 4: Buddha is in the building with quote a smile on 684 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 4: his face. 685 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 3: Not on the field. 686 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 4: Don't know if he'll be on the field on Wednesday, 687 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 4: because in the words of the head coach, the team 688 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 4: and Buddha are quote working on some things. And that 689 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 4: is from the social media accounts of our colleague Darren 690 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 4: urban at cards chatter as far as where things stand 691 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 4: between team and player. But when we talk about the 692 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 4: player Buddha Baker within this defense, Kyle, we know what 693 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 4: we've seen. 694 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: From Buddha Baker. 695 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 4: Regardless of who the defensive coordinator is, You're gonna find 696 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 4: somewhere to put him on this football field and utilize 697 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 4: his skill sets, whether that's in the back end or 698 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 4: maybe closer to the line of scrimmage. 699 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't find a place for Buddha Baker. You 700 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 5: build your defense around a player like Buddha Baker. I mean, 701 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 5: he is your You know, through the history of the league, 702 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 5: there's been a handful of safeties that the quarterback has 703 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 5: to account for pre snap every single play. You got 704 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 5: to find out where he is and with a player 705 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 5: like Buddha Baker, the way he plays and the way 706 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 5: he closes, it doesn't really matter if you know where 707 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 5: he is pre snap, because as soon as the ball 708 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 5: is snapped, he can go sidelined a sideline in the 709 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 5: blink of an eye. And and so you know, I again, 710 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 5: you know, look, this is all the business side of it. 711 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 5: This team knows how important a player like Buddha Baker 712 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 5: is not just to this defense, but is to any defense. 713 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 5: Like you could drop him on the field on any 714 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 5: defense in the NFL and he will be a difference maker. 715 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,479 Speaker 5: So you know, it's all encouraging. It's it's good news 716 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 5: that he's here. It's good news that these conversations are continuing. 717 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 5: It's good news that it seems again Jonathan Gannon has 718 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 5: a good relationship with him, that they're able to talk 719 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 5: through things and that things are moving forward. 720 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: Really intrigued by how Nick Rolis and Jonathan Gannon are 721 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: going to utilize a Buddha Baker and Isaiah Simmons a 722 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: Zaban Collins. These are all playmakers, difference makers, at least 723 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 2: theoretically the latter two should be. How are they going 724 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: to be utilized? What did these coaches see in those players. 725 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 2: Where will they build their scheme around those guys in 726 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 2: what manner? What will be their job description? These are 727 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: all things that we're really curious to see. Jonathan Annon 728 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 2: has to say an adapt or die. He ran an 729 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: Eagles defense last year that led the NFL in sacks 730 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: by a wide margin. They had seventy sacks, fifteen more 731 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: than any other team, and by his own admission, we 732 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 2: didn't blitz because we didn't need to. Now eighteen year, 733 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: thirty six sacks walked out the door and JJ Wadden 734 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: Zach Allen, So what does that mean? Are they gonna 735 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 2: have to use a blitz heavy scheme to get to 736 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 2: the quarterback again? Adapt or die? This is a totally 737 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: different roster on the defensive side of things. They don't 738 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 2: have nearly the front defensive line talent that the Eagles 739 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 2: had last year. So what does that mean? What's it 740 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: going to look like? How are they gonna call the defense? 741 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 2: These are all things we're waiting to find out. 742 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 4: Then we're asking anyone and everyone to give us kind 743 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 4: of an update, including JT. Thompson as far as what 744 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 4: this team might look like. Jalen Thompson on the Nick 745 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 4: Rolis defense. 746 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 5: I like it. 747 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 11: It's a little different than last year, you know what 748 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 11: I mean. I feel like this year it's kind of 749 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 11: a little bit more. He lets the players be a 750 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 11: little more free out there, you know what I mean, 751 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 11: maybe not so robody, I feel like, And I feel 752 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 11: like that's gonna lead to more plays being made. 753 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 4: When you hear that, Kyle, allowing the players to be free, 754 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 4: maybe more in control once they know what they're supposed 755 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 4: to do, what their assignment is, but maybe a little 756 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 4: bit more reacting as opposed to thinking and all of 757 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 4: a sudden, the wait a second, no, according to this 758 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be over here. But if you're playing 759 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 4: within the play, maybe all of a sudden, to Jalen's point, 760 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 4: more plays are being made as opposed to watching them 761 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 4: behind you. 762 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 763 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 5: And I don't know what that looks like, but you know, 764 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 5: from things we've heard, it seems like roles are more 765 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 5: clearly defined and your responsibilities are a little bit simpler, 766 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 5: like you've only got, you know, a couple of keys, 767 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 5: and you just go. And that's when, particularly on defense, 768 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 5: when you stop thinking and you just let your playmakers 769 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 5: go make plays and and you know, a lot of 770 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 5: it is the attitude, the tone you said again, the 771 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 5: culture of Look, I just want you to play fast, 772 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 5: be violent, play hard, and if you make a mistake, 773 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 5: you make it one hundred miles per hour. Because if 774 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 5: you're sitting on your heels and you're hesitating and you're 775 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 5: trying to you know, always analyze things before you go, 776 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 5: you're not going to be a good defense. You need 777 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 5: to just let your players go. And it sounds like 778 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 5: that's again hearing we've heard things like this before, but 779 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 5: hearing this from Jalen Thompson about this defense because offense 780 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 5: is different than defense. Like offense, everybody has to do 781 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 5: exactly the right thing in order for a play to work. 782 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 2: Defense. 783 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 5: Quite frankly, look, there can be breakdowns and you might 784 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 5: not see it, but if your guys are playing fast 785 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 5: and they're playing hard, players will make up for other players' 786 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 5: mistakes at times. So that's a good attitude and a 787 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 5: good culture. And that's what makes a good defense, is 788 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 5: being fast and aggressive. 789 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 2: When I hear Jailen Thompson say letting the players be 790 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 2: a little more, I read that as less is more 791 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 2: in terms of the scheme, in terms of different as 792 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 2: sign and space to what an offense does. I just 793 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: think on both sides of the ball, you're gonna see 794 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 2: a coaching staff that's gonna try and simplify things. Is 795 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,479 Speaker 2: it new? Is there a learning curve? 796 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 3: Yes? 797 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: But once they master the scheme and the playbook on 798 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball, I just get the sense 799 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: reading between the lines talking to different players and coaches 800 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 2: that less is more as a mantra that they're going 801 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: to try and simplify things for everyone on either side 802 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 2: of the ball. 803 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 4: Well, that one player that maybe needs everything simplified the 804 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 4: most considering everything he's done in the past, and that 805 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 4: within the defense is Isaiah Simmons. 806 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 3: What the plan is for him? Here? 807 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 4: Is Nick Rolis on with Wolf and Luke as far 808 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 4: as the idea behind letting Isaiah just master one position first. 809 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 12: When you first rob, you say, oh my god, this 810 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 12: guy can do this, this guy can do this, this 811 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 12: guy can do this, this guy can do this, and 812 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 12: it's a hang on. Is that fair to the player? Right, 813 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 12: Let's make sure that whatever we ask him to do first, 814 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 12: he masters it. Yes, But every guy, especially with a 815 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 12: new scheme, needs a chance to get really comfortable with 816 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 12: what is that one assignment in this call, in this call, 817 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 12: in this call, I think if you try to master 818 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 12: too many things initially at once, you don't master any 819 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:17,479 Speaker 12: of them. 820 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 3: And what is that one position? First? In real time? 821 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 4: Isaiah Simmons addressing reporters post practice and our colleague Danny 822 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 4: Sirek on social media, saying, Simmons confirms he is going 823 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 4: to be a defensive back this season. Master that first 824 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 4: and then utilize his. 825 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 3: Skill set elsewhere. 826 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 4: But we've seen it now for more than a year, 827 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 4: Kyle Simmons has been working with the safety position and 828 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 4: that has not changed since the new coaching staff has arrived. Now, 829 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 4: master the back end before we see you, maybe more 830 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 4: closer to the line of scrimmage or maybe back inside 831 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 4: the box. 832 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that's the right approach really for 833 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 5: any player. But a player with you know, so many 834 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 5: physical skills, like Isaiah Simmons, you don't want to hand 835 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 5: him a playbook and say no, all of these positions. 836 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 5: You know you you want to again just reiterating what 837 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 5: he was talking about, get him to master one thing, 838 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 5: and once he gets it, you can add this, add 839 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 5: another thing. Add Okay, now we're going to put you 840 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 5: up on the line of scrimmage, playing bump and run 841 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 5: on the slot, or now we can blitz you off 842 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 5: the edge, or now we can at times in certain 843 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 5: packages put you back at inside linebacker, or you know, 844 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 5: it's it seemed like, you know, he last year he 845 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 5: was sold to us as a solution to all of 846 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 5: the problems of the defense. And you know, that's a 847 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 5: lot to put on any player, let alone a young player. 848 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 5: And I don't know that, you know, looking at what 849 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 5: he did in college and looking at what he did 850 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 5: the first couple of years in the league, he was 851 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 5: never really put at one position and said learn this, 852 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 5: perfect this, get your footwork, get your eyes in the 853 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 5: right place, use your hands like this. He's just always been, 854 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 5: you know, because sometimes coaches look at a player and say, man, 855 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 5: this kid can do so much, but they don't ever 856 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 5: get really good at one thing. And you know, I 857 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 5: love this approach. Let's take a step back, Let's get excellent. 858 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 5: You know, learn this position, study other players at this position, 859 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 5: and once you get that, then we can start to 860 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 5: add some more things to his plate. 861 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 4: And within that position, whether it's maybe sometimes rushing as 862 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 4: we've seen Buddha Baker corner blitz or whatever. But we've 863 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 4: seen now for the better part of two seasons, Isaiah 864 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 4: Simmons predominantly play more in the back end or covering 865 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 4: someone that's coming across the middle. 866 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 2: And covering the tight end. Obviously, he has the size, 867 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 2: he has the speed. You know, we remember the famous words. 868 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 2: He was drafted to cover the tight end by the 869 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 2: decision makers at the time, and in a lot of weeks, 870 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 2: you know that's gonna be one of the top receiving threats. 871 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 2: If it's a game of matchups, Isaiah Simmons needs to 872 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 2: be that guy they can consistently put on the opposing 873 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 2: tight end. So but look, you know I fall into 874 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 2: that group of guilty parties when his first couple of 875 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 2: years in the league, you're thinking, man, ideally, Isaiah Simmons, 876 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: he's the guy the quarterback looks for first once he 877 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 2: breaks the huddle. Where's number nine lined up? Now? Is 878 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: he off the edge? Is he playing center field? Is 879 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 2: he coming between the A gaps? So what we've seen 880 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 2: is guess what. That has rendered him a less than 881 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 2: effective player at times. See if he can just be 882 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 2: that one guy at one position, a six. 883 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 4: Foot four to two hundred and thirty eight pound defensive back. 884 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 4: That's that that's intimidating. If you're a wide receiver or 885 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 4: a running back coming across the middle. 886 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 5: There's not many of those. And we've seen how physical 887 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 5: he can be. Man. When he gets a shout on players, he'll. 888 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 3: Take it well. 889 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 4: We will see what happens as the weeks progress. Next 890 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 4: stop training camp, but not for us. We will be 891 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 4: back in one week's time. It is the Cardinals Red 892 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 4: Seat Report, presented by Seakeek your tickets Great Seat Special. 893 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 4: Thanks to those behind the scenes are Executive producer Jim Lebalhadro, 894 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 4: Technical director Coodie Pitcher for Kyle, Benybosch, Paul Calvicy. I'm 895 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 4: Greg Real Lou. 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