WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: Trancers II 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:07.360 Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:09.959 and I'm Joe McCormick. In today we're bringing you a 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:14.720 weird House cinema rewind. This episode originally aired on May. 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:21.200 Let's see May one. This was transfers to everybody meet 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.479 your new husband Jack Death. Yeah, this one, this one 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.360 is a lot of fun. Uh. Tim Thomason, Helen Hunt, 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:35.760 Richard Lynch, con traveling um cops, Uh, psychic zombies, various wives, 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:37.960 and the not so rigorous rules of time travel. We 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.440 talk a little bit about time travel cinema in general 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:44.640 in this episode, will Tim Thomason, Mary both women listening 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:50.800 to find out. Welcome to Stuff to blow your mind 0:00:51.040 --> 0:01:00.280 production of My Heart Radio. Hey you welcome to Weird 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:03.680 how Cinema. This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.920 And today it's all Time Cops. It's not the movie 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.760 Time Cop, it's another Time Cop movie. Uh. This is 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.480 one where you know there are different ways you get 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.800 into a piece of b cinema. Sometimes you watch a 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:20.360 trailer and it really grabs you. Sometimes you just hear 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.440 the pitch and and it gets the hooks in. But 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:28.200 for me, this movie Transfers to the Return of Jack Death. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.160 It lured me in with one of the best B 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:35.440 movie posters I've ever seen. Uh this Uh, I can't 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.280 remember how I first came across this. How did we 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.880 get started on the transfer train? You were talking about 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.920 transfers and then I found this poster. I think, yeah, 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.679 a couple of things came together. I think I got 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.800 a preview of a Full Moon Entertainment streaming channel in 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.280 order to watch shock Waves, and then forgot to unsubscribe, 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:55.840 and you know, so I had it for a month, 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.520 and then we were talking about Full Moon Entertainment and 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.320 and if in the question was raised I think by Seth, 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:07.480 are all the films in the the Full Moon Entertainment catalog? 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.519 Are they? Are they all essentially Evil Ball and Ginger 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.560 dead Man? And I was like, no, no, no, no, 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.640 there you know there's some early stuff. I think there's 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.360 some good stuff in there, maybe the transfer movies. I 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.519 haven't seen them yet. And then the next thing I 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.160 knew I had about of insomnia, so I fired up 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.760 Transfers one and started watching it. Okay, that's right. So 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.240 you were talking about Transfers one and you were pitching 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.520 me on the concept, which which sounded quite enticing. Uh, 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.040 sort of similar. It sounded like a cross between time 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:39.440 cop and Uh. There's a series of video games. I've 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:43.480 never played one, but the games are called Assassin's Creed 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:47.839 and the premise of them is that you don't physically, 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.519 in your body go back in time, but you can 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:54.680 like send your mind back in time to inhabit the 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.120 body of one of your ancestors. Is that right? I 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.320 think that's how it works. Yeah, I I I'm not 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.880 really versed in those games either, okay, And so that's 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.040 the that's one of the basic plot mechanics of transfers, 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.200 right that it has a it has a drug based 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:12.440 time travel mechanism where you can send your brain, or 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.880 at least your your consciousness back into the body of 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:20.600 one of your long dead relatives. Correct. Yeah, roughly speaking, 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:24.079 if we're gonna lean into what's going on, uh there 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.440 there are seemingly two methods of time travel in the film. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:30.440 There's the genetic ancestral drug technique to move consciousness and 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:34.680 a physical time travel technique with severe limitation. So there 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.680 is a continuation or survival of consciousness in these films, 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.400 akin to reincarnation as well. As a consciousness based model 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.680 of time, and it woul seem to indicate that time 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.120 is largely an illusion created by consciousness and can be 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:51.480 manipulated through pharmacology and manipulated to such a degree that 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.760 then physical time travel is possible as well. That's right. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.960 Transfers too gets deep. This is um. I remember when 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.640 I first signed up for Netflix many men of years ago. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.280 It was interesting because, like, you would tell it what 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.119 movies you liked, and then it would start suggesting its own, 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:12.080 Like Netflix curated thematic subgenres for you. And I remember 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.080 one of the little uh categories that curated for me 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.040 based on the movies that I had liked previously was 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:22.880 mind bending thrillers. And so I think this is technically 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:27.920 a mind bending thriller. Yes, um, it bends the mind, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.080 it's a little bit. It bends it in multiple directions. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.520 But but I gotta come back to this poster. So 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.160 you were telling me about transfers, and then I looked 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.159 up the poster but ended up seeing the poster for 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:44.039 Transfers to the Return of Jack Death. This thing is beautiful. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:48.039 It belongs in the Ufizia. It's um. So it's got 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.320 a painting of the main guy in the movie. But 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.200 I was not familiar with this guy. I guess his 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:57.040 name is Jack Death d e t right like megadeath, 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.400 not like the actual word death. And then the painting 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.080 he looks like Lane's boss from Seinfeld, you know, the 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.039 guy with the like very smooth, like slick back white 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.000 hair and the dark eyebrows. And he's looking kind of 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.880 like Sam the Eagle, looking kind of stern and handsome 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.320 with a strong jaw line. But he's got a long 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.000 coat on. It's almost like, you know, he's like a 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.719 flasher creep, but inside the coat it's not his body. 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.680 It's like a galaxy full of stars. And then there 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.080 are a couple of people standing with him, two women, 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.919 each holding guns. One of them is Helen Hunt, kind 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.680 of smiling in a mild way, holding a shotgun and 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.360 wearing the mom jenes eist mom jeans that have ever 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.159 been created. Oh, and they're also like standing on the 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.400 surface of Mars, which doesn't correlate to anything that happens 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.880 in the movie. Right. Do you know why in this 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:54.159 poster Jack Death has a galaxy inside his coat? Well, 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.800 I mean, there's nothing in the film to indicate why 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.640 this would be. But I guess if we lean into it, 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.280 he's you know, he's from the future, so he has 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.040 a he has a sci fi nature to him. And 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.320 if you can, I don't know, you're bending time in space. 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.240 Uh that's about as much as I can come up with. Okay, 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.920 So I guess one thing we should acknowledge is that 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:18.000 this is yet another episode where we're covering a sequel 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.720 without having covered the original film. And I think, Rob, 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.120 you're going to sort of do recap duty for us 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:27.080 to tell us about the first Transfers movie. But but 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.480 we do not apologize for doing this. In fact, I 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.440 think some of my favorite episodes of Weird House Cinema 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.240 have been where we covered a sequel without covering the original. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.000 I don't know why that often works out so well. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.600 Something about it is kind of liberating. But I feel 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.160 like it's something we're going to keep doing, and we 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.919 maybe even need like a dedicated word for like the 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:50.160 sequelocity episodes or yeah, because I think one of the 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:54.760 reasons that it works is that when you're dealing with sequels, 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.920 especially sequels of this caliber. You know, in sequels of 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:02.520 genre films, um there are at least one of two 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.839 things are likely to be happening here. So on one level, 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.479 a sequel is a chance to move beyond the establishing 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.320 setting and origin stories and get into the meat of 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.840 a of a new, fresh story. Uh, provided however, that 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.160 you don't have to then reset Heaven and Earth to 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.800 make a sequel work. So I would say that a 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.920 great example of this is Blade to where uh Gamma 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:25.600 de Toro did not have to deal with any of 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.120 like the origin story of Blade for the most part, 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.520 and just got to get into just run right into 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:34.360 a new adventure with only minor resetting. It's kind of 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.800 like getting to start a movie in the second act. Yeah. Probably, 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.240 I love this film obviously, But a bad example of 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.080 this would be Highlander two, where everything was wrapped up 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.640 in Highlander one, so in order to do a sequel 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.320 they really had to reset Heaven and Earth and inject 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.560 a whole bunch of new material there. Yeah. There are 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.720 a lot of sequels that have to essentially undo the 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.480 previous film in some way in order to exist, and 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.360 on certain occasions that be a kind of like bold 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.880 and gutsy and admirable move. Uh. This is a widely 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.000 hated movie, but one one that does this in a 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.320 way that I think could have been great? Is Alien three? 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.760 Alien three? I mean, I guess I'm not gonna spoil 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.120 anything for a movie that's been out this long. Alien 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:20.040 three begins by killing most of the characters that survived 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:25.880 Aliens and uh and beloved characters that all die right 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.480 at the beginning actually off screen. It's just like it 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.239 happens in between the films, and a lot of people 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.640 like this, but something about me always kind of appreciated 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.880 like this could be the setup to a real powerful 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.120 gut punch of a of a third Alien movie. Unfortunately, 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.480 Alien three is It's one of those movies that is 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.240 it's hard to say it's bad because I think it's 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.240 essentially an unfinished film. We we don't we didn't ever 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.440 get to see what Alien three would have been. Um 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.959 so many great aspects to it. I mean, it's a 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.680 wonderful cast, Pete post Away, Charles S. Dutton. Yeah, it's 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:02.600 got an amazing cast. A dance as a trust likable 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.360 human being, which or at least a more relatable human 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.200 being than he tends to play. I don't I don't 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.320 remember all the wrinkles in his character, but he wasn't 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:14.720 a complete bastard, as I recalled Charles Dance is just wonderful. Yeah, 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.040 it's it has a great cast, has in a way 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.439 a strong setup. Is just yeah, like I said, it's 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:23.360 basically an unfinished film that was nevertheless released and kind 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.320 of really suffers for that. It's sort of held together 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.959 by duct tape and paper clips. But but but that 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.240 was all a tangent to say. There are some cases 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.280 where it feels like it can be really strong. Most 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.560 of the time, when your sequel has to undo the 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.400 previous film, it's just really irritating. How do you feel 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:44.560 about Halloween one Halloween two? Because Halloween One ends with 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.360 like Donald pleasants, is like, finally we have we have 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.800 killed him, and then Halloween two begins with oh wait, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.400 my bad, I'm sorry I missed him, or it's not dead, 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:58.000 you know. I mean, Halloween two is not the worst 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.360 slasher movie and not the worst slasher sequel, Like it's 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:06.040 a pretty competently executed, uh slasher horror movie. But yeah, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.960 it's it's totally unnecessary and it's quite clear that it 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.559 was just just kind of a cash grab. It's like 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.040 the first movie was really successful, we got to do 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.640 another one. I mean, I don't think it doesn't feel 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.000 it like Carpenter didn't even direct it. I think he 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:23.280 co wrote the screenplay if I'm not mistaken, But um, 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.760 I could be wrong about that. But whoever was all 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.160 the creative forces behind it. It is a competently made 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.520 horror movie, but their heart wasn't really in it. Yeah. 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:36.680 So yeah. The next thing about sequels is definitely the 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.720 rehash and redo area of sequel making. In it, in 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.559 its worst case, you have a like direct to video 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:48.520 cash in that is intentionally just completely um uh, lacking 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.319 of the originality of the first film. But you also 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.800 see this other, this, this reverse, and that's when you have, 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.920 particularly a lower budget or indie picture that does really well, 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:02.280 and then the sea will is a chance to essentially 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.559 redo it, hopefully with improvements to the budget, cast, script, etcetera. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.760 I think prime examples of this would be Evil Dead 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.880 Too and Phantasm To, both of which benefited from larger 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.640 budgets and are both kinds of sequel slash remakes. I 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.600 know fans are porn on some of the issues regarding these, 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.160 and you know their their arguments about like what's better 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:27.040 Phantasm Wonder Phantasm Too? But undeniably these are cases where 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.200 the filmmakers got to go back and spend a lot 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:33.120 more money, maybe with a lot more um um. You know, 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.600 caveats attached to how they use that money, but still 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.080 they got to explore the same dream with more cash. 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.240 I don't know if the same is true Phantasm too, 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.559 because I haven't seen it, but certainly with Evil Dead too, 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.480 there's a big difference, not just in uh in budget 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.640 and not just in the resources they had to work with, 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.600 but in the tone of the movie. Whereas the first 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.800 Evil Dead movie is like a is like a dark, straight, 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:59.600 gross horror movie, the second one is a comedy essentially. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.160 so you get tweak the tone even in cases, and 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:03.800 then sometimes I can think it can it can have 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.560 great results. But now, how does this apply to transfers, 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.720 Because if I'm not mistaken, I think the first one 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.559 actually got a theatrical release and this one I don't know, 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:16.439 but it feels extremely straight to video. Yes, this one 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.520 was straight to video, unlike the previous one. I couldn't 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.199 find any information about the actual budget for transfers to 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:27.040 um so this one maybe cost as much, maybe cost more, 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.240 but I doubt it. I think it costs less. Um. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.680 It's certainly made at least one key upgrade, and that's 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.720 in villain casting, which we'll get to in a bit. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.240 But they largely rehatch the plot of the first one, 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:43.320 except with additional complications and additional characters. But I feel 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.520 like they brought almost everybody back, so, uh, you know, 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.320 it's kind of like a cast reunion to a certain extent. Okay, well, 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.240 so if you're about to re recap the first movie 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.480 for us, the first thing I've got to know is 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.839 it's called Transfers to the Return of Jack Death. Where 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.959 did he return from? Do you return from the future 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.280 to the past or from the past to the future. No, 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:10.240 he doesn't return from anywhere. He returns to your your 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:15.880 your your TV screen. Basically. That's because there's talk of 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.000 him returning to the future, but he does not return 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.000 to the future. He doesn't return to the future until 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.680 Transfers three. So it just literally could have been called 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:28.040 transfers to Jack Death is in another movie. Yeah, alright, 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:32.760 so previously on Transfers. Okay, So, Angel City of the 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.520 twenty third century. It has a lot of problems. Most 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.760 of Los Angeles is underwater and a psychic mastermind known 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.880 as Whistler, who uses his psychic powers to turn other 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:46.160 humans into transfers, zombie like thralls. Uh you know these 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.760 are these are psychically controlled sleeper agents who can be 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.760 triggered into a monstrous rampage. But luckily you have some 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.600 transfer hunters on the case and there's none more um 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.360 you know, excellent at at at singing transfers than old 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.400 Jack Death. Jack Death is sort of the Harley Stone 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:09.360 of transfers, so he's a pro had taken him out, 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:13.520 pro it's sending those transfers. Uh. Meanwhile, the police actually 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.839 have Whistler's body, They have the super bad guy's body, 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.200 but they don't have his mind because Whistler, we find out, 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.840 has used the time travel drug to send his consciousness 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:28.960 back in time to five, where his consciousness now inhabits 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:33.600 his ancestors body in his ancestor is a police detective. 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:38.280 So complications. Oh. Now, while in the past, Whistler hasn't 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.200 just been hiding, he's been hunting down and murdering the 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:45.000 ancestors of his key enemies in the future, members of 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.400 the ruling council of Angel City. So he's you know, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.880 he's basically running a terminator game on his enemies here. 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.440 So Jack Death has been hired by the one remaining 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.760 UH member of the ruling Council to follow Whistler Quote 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.240 down on the Line down the timeline um by using 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:07.000 the time travel drug, and Jack Death's consciousness emerges in 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.640 his own nine five ancestors body a reporter in in 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:17.120 Los Angeles. But before he goes, he shoots whistlers Um 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.200 future body his commentos body dead before he goes. So 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:22.640 he's kind of like, I'll go get him, but I'm 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.840 not bringing him back alive. He's not coming back to 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.320 this body. Too dangerous to live, Okay. So where does 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.000 Helen hunt come in? She's kind of okay. Once in 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.000 the past he meets up with this punk girl named 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.400 Lena and that is Helen Hunt Um. And so she's 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.680 she's she's in it. She's gonna help him. She you know, 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.640 she gets her eyes are open to the time shenanigans 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.840 going on, so she's she's right there with him to 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.440 help him fight the battle. Uh, they fall in love, 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.400 et cetera, you know, as as one would expect, and 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.000 they hunt down the drunken, homeless former pro baseball player 0:15:55.080 --> 0:16:00.320 hap Ashby who is the ancestor of the future ruler 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.320 who is in jeopardy. So in this quest, Death is 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.040 aided by some high tech equipment that is also sent 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.520 back through time and space to him, presumably via a 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.000 different time travel methods. So once you've had your consciousness 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.440 zipped back, they can send you a small box like 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.720 the size of a cigar box that has a few 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.480 uh um, you know, special tools that you can use. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.680 Does this include the watch that allows you to stop 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.120 time for ten seconds? Yes, this includes the watch that 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.280 gives you a long second if you push a button. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.000 The long second is just pausing time for a second, 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.840 letting you do some bullet time stuff. Um, but it's 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:39.440 incredibly useful. Yeah. But he also has um two doses 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.600 of a serum that he can use. If the serum 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:46.640 is injected into somebody who is um a consciousness from 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.320 the future occupying a body, then it will kick that 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.000 consciousness out and send it back to the future. So 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.040 these two doses, one is to allow Jack Death to 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.760 return to the future for his consciousness to leave his 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:02.920 ancestors body. The other dose is to send um Whistler 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.560 out of his ancestors body. But since Whistler is dead 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:09.160 in the future his he'll just go into oblivion. Okay, 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:13.360 all right. So he defeats Whistler, but he faces a problem. 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:17.240 Only one of the two consciousness booting doses survived the battle. 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.800 He can only inject one of them. He can kill 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:23.600 Whistler in the past uh and and use the one 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.719 dose to return himself, but that means killing the body 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.520 that Whistler in habits, which is an innocent man with 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:33.320 a family. So instead he ejects Whistler's consciousness into oblivion, 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:38.960 thus sparing Whistler's ancestor, and remains behind in to marry 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.120 Lena played by Helen Hunt and live in the twentieth 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:46.240 century happily ever after with after in the nineteen eighties 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:52.160 in southern California. Wow. Perfectly serviceable movie, but I think 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.119 in in some in some ways a better movie. But 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.000 ultimately I think Transfers two is more fun. I'm gonna 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.760 guess that Transfers To is significant funnier than the first movie. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.520 Um yes, it definitely leans into the comedy a little 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:10.679 bit more without getting into like full blown um you know, 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.040 um yuck a minute mode that you kind of see 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.600 in the later full uh, full Moon Pictures releases, and 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:17.960 we'll get into some of that in a in a 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.159 bit here. Um, But transfers one did have a few laughs, 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.320 and I'll mention one or two of them as we go. Okay, 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.480 so that's the previous movie. Well, what's the elevator pitch 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.880 on the second movie? Jack Death is back, Baby, Jack 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.639 Death all over again. Yeah, I was trying to think. Okay, 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.560 I've got an old pitch on the second movie, which 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:42.000 is that, due to unforeseen transfers, Jack Death realizes that, oh, 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.640 he had another wife in the future that he forgot 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.280 to tell Helen Hunt about, and now she's back in 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.560 the past and and so now he's faced with the 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.399 dilemma must he choose between them? Or can he marry 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:56.080 both women? Let's hear that trader audio. My name is 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.640 Jack Death. I'm a transfer hunted from the century. It's 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:01.480 been so even years since I went down the line 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:05.399 old California. Life's been good. I thought i'd send my 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:18.480 last transfer, but nothing lasts forever. Jack transfers to the 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:22.520 return of Jack Death. Jack must be getting to you. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.840 You have no idea. I actually haven't listened to this, 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.760 but I imagine there's a really good in a world 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.600 narrator in it. Uh yeah, the trailer. I actually don't 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.040 advise watching the trailer in full because the one that 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.480 the official one that's uploaded by full moon's like three 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:44.000 minutes long and is basically a summary of the entire film. 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.600 It shows you everything, and you know, it's like, not 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:48.919 that spoiler is going to ruin your enjoyment of Transfers too, 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:51.639 But you know, I think it's it's worth going into 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:53.960 fresh Oh wait a minute, then, then should people not 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.520 listen to this episode before they watch? Oh no, they 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.280 can do that, that's right. I mean, I think everybody 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:01.360 who's been into weird ol cinema you know the deal. 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.680 We're gonna you know, we're gonna talk loosely about the movie. 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.640 We're gonna talk about the people in it, and then 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:08.600 we'll get more into the plot. So if you need 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.000 to jump out halfway through, you know where to jump 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:12.600 out at. Um, you know, if you need to go 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.240 watch the movie and you want, you don't want any spoilers, 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:18.439 otherwise we're gonna spoil pretty much everything. Well, I I 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:20.800 greatly enjoyed Transfers too, but I would not say the 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:25.280 lot was hanging on the outcome of the plot. For me, Yeah, 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:28.479 it's pretty predictable, you know what's gonna happen. Alright, So 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:32.160 who made this thing? Well, Charles Band, of course. Um, 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:35.480 he's the director. He has an original story credit on this, 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.560 uh born n one. We've discussed his bio before, but 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:44.080 but briefly, he's the man behind Empire International Pictures and 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.120 then Full Moon Features, and he directed some some really 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.720 awesome eighties and nineties sci fi and horror films, you know, 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:53.720 lower budget, fair for sure, before going increasingly in the 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:58.280 Evil Balling, Ginger dead Man direction. Um, this is I 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.920 believe our third Charles Band auction, but our first film 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.560 that he actually directed. What were the other two was 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.600 what he was a producer on, Robot Jocks, right, Robot 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.400 Jocks and Arena, two absolutely glorious films, and I think 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.440 there's a Robot Jocks tie in later on here. Yeah. Yeah, 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:18.080 So he has sixty eight directorial credits, and I'd say most, 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.000 if not all, of it from recent decades is certainly 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.000 of the Evil ball Sword. But this movie is from 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.560 the era in which Band was still making films that 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.919 seemed to aim to be more genre action entertainment without 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:34.399 just being you know, abject horror comedy and so forth. 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:39.680 I'm talking stuff like two, Parasite, which starred Jimmy Moore, Um, 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.560 metal Storm, The Destruction of Jared sin from three, which 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.080 which I really enjoyed. That's a that's a fun sort 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:52.640 of otherworldly post apocalyptic mash up thing. Doctor Mordred which 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:56.120 is kind of a Doctor Strange picture before we had 0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:00.240 a Doctor Strange picture. And these films were not local 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.040 hits by any means um. I I assume they made 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.719 money of some sort um since things kept going, But 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:08.959 you know, many of them developed a following, and as 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.760 a producer, band played a role in bringing a lot 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.040 of weird shlock to the screen, and I think like 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.560 ultimately as a producer is where he has the most 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.000 endearing value. Uh. You know, there's a there's a lot 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:22.320 of fun stuff going on in the the Empire, uh Pictures, 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.400 Days as Weth, the Early Full Moon Days and and 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:27.399