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Speaker 1: to stuff Mom never told you today. I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 1: kind of a lot, and that is women in the trades.

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Speaker 1: We're thinking about trades like plumbing, welding, union back tool whielders,

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Speaker 1: going from being a think tank person here in d C.

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Speaker 1: Now that's left us with a shortage of skilled trades

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Speaker 1: Knowing that we do have a labor shortage in the

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Speaker 1: you know, as I was as I was working um

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Speaker 1: At researching this this industry and women and why do

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Speaker 1: we have women who are the number one customer and

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Speaker 1: automotive industry by far um that's why do they feel

435
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Speaker 1: at such a disadvantage, feel that women are taken advantage of?

436
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 1: And to me, I thought, the root cause of that

437
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 1: is they're just they're not women who work in this industry.

438
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: Why don't we have women who work in this industry?

439
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: Obviously it's the stereotype and just the culture of cars

440
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: are for men, right, Women shouldn't be working with their hands,

441
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: women shouldn't be getting dirty. It's a grease monkey type

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Speaker 1: of job and leave it to the guys. And that

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00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: is just a stereotype that we kind of accept which

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Speaker 1: we have accepted in America with a lot of the

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Speaker 1: male female roles, which is going to affect all of us,

446
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: including women, and how we feel about ourselves, and it

447
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: affects men and how they feel about us. And so

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Speaker 1: even though there's a lot of great guys that work

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Speaker 1: in this industry, it's just a culture of this isn't

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Speaker 1: really something for women. You two have blatant people that

451
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Speaker 1: are like, women can't do this, I don't believe that,

452
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Speaker 1: and and but those are usually I say that these

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Speaker 1: are usually men who don't have strong women in their lives,

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Speaker 1: right they and and and I don't mean to come

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Speaker 1: down on women when I see that, But normally, if

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Speaker 1: you've had a woman in your life, like your mother

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Speaker 1: who had to work, and you know she was very

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Speaker 1: capable and being strong and creating things or making things happen,

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Speaker 1: you know, women are very capable um of doing things

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Speaker 1: and and of of not having a man around to

461
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Speaker 1: need them for stuff. And there are some women who

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Speaker 1: who and choose to live, you know, and and a

463
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Speaker 1: life where they don't want to do that stuff and

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Speaker 1: they have their husbands take care of everything. And that's fine,

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Speaker 1: but often, you know, it's you still have that stereotype

466
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Speaker 1: of women can't do that. So we find a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys, young guys too, when I tell them that

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Speaker 1: the mechanics, they don't believe me. They want to look

469
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Speaker 1: at my hands, They want to see if my finger

470
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: nails are greasy. They want to test my car care knowledge.

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Speaker 1: I went and spoke at a technical school. I was

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Speaker 1: paid to be to talk to them about women mechanics,

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Speaker 1: and they still didn't believe me. They wanted to like

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Speaker 1: question me, and so you know, it's just we have

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Speaker 1: to look at that face that and know that it's

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Speaker 1: a real issue if we're going a barrier I we're

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Speaker 1: going to get women in is how we feel ultimately

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Speaker 1: about women and what their contribution can be. And it's

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Speaker 1: it's important that we see these other strong power for

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Speaker 1: women looking it not just for girls to see it,

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Speaker 1: but for other men to see it, to say, yes,

482
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Speaker 1: women are capable of doing this type of stuff, even

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Speaker 1: you know, not just from experiences and the women that

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Speaker 1: I'm around. Yes, I think that's such a great point.

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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering what do you see as the biggest

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Speaker 1: benefits of getting more women in this field? Not only

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Speaker 1: for the women entering this field, And really the context

488
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Speaker 1: of today's conversation is all about the benefits of women

489
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Speaker 1: can get in a career in the trades, but also

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Speaker 1: how does the trade benefit, Like how does the industry

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Speaker 1: benefit from having more gender balance there too? Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: anytime you add women to the equation, you make things better,

493
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: So every everybody that everybody's benefits. The question no, um,

494
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: so you know, um, the reason I think is the

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Speaker 1: biggest benefit. And I tell people this all the time,

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Speaker 1: and I make no apologies or excuses about girls. Autoquinic.

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Speaker 1: I say, we're not an automotive company. We are a

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Speaker 1: female empowerment company that happens to be in the automotive

499
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: and you know sector, and we're going to empower women.

500
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: Can do nothing but IMpower the automotive industry and help them, right,

501
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: And it's because their number one customer is women. By far,

502
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: women hold more driver's licenses than men now as all

503
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Speaker 1: the groups. And I always scared guys when I tell

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Speaker 1: them that, right were women on the road. You have

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Speaker 1: women that they influence up to of the car buying

506
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Speaker 1: decisions because you know where the CFOs of the house

507
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: we take our cars and for repairs more than men.

508
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: So here you have your number one customer, right And

509
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: there's nobody in the industry that looks like her. They

510
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: don't talk like her, They can't understand the emotional needs,

511
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Speaker 1: you know, for why she would say yes to that buying,

512
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Speaker 1: that yes to that repair service. It's men are notorious

513
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Speaker 1: for being really bad at selling to women, you know.

514
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Speaker 1: And so here you have your number one customer and

515
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: you're putting in front of her someone that she made

516
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: feel a lot of difficulty communicating with, and she won't

517
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable with her her choice. And we want to

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Speaker 1: feel empowered with what we do, especially nowadays, loo's bigger

519
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: than female empowerment. And we're telling these girls listen, so

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00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: we're we're the future. We want to be empowered, right,

521
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: But do we feel empowered when we go and buy

522
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: the cart? Not? But if we had a women there,

523
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna feel a little safer. We're gonna not be

524
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: afraid to to come out of our comfort zone and

525
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Speaker 1: ask the questions that we know we will ask that

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00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: are the right questions to ask, but are too afraid,

527
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: you know. So that's what I think is really going

528
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: to help us is is we need to get more

529
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Speaker 1: women involved. And Um, the reason that I think it's

530
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Speaker 1: also important for the industry is just because women are

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Speaker 1: you know, we are becoming more capable. There are women

532
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: out there looking for jobs and our contribution isn't important

533
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: to be made, whether it isn't the trade fields or not. Um,

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00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: it's not only about being a big, huge person that

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00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: can lift something heavy. Um. You know, we're using our

536
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: hands more, we're using our mind more technology that don't

537
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: call us mechanics anymore, as they call us technologists. Were automotives,

538
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, technicians, and we are we It's that's part

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00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: of the T and STEM. I tell people automotive technology

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00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: and a lot of these trade fields are in that

541
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: tea in the STEM and they need to be recognized

542
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: as a lot of technology with the trade fields. And

543
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: women are very capable of feeling these roles because you're

544
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: hearing it. Now there's a gap. We told all the

545
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: kids go to college, vise and finance. Everybody, go go

546
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: for your college. And now we're the trades. They're real lacking.

547
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: They need mechanics, they need plumbers and electricians, and there's

548
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, tons of money to be made in this industry.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, women, come on, let's do it. We

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00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: can do it right, And so yeah, I'm excited, Like

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Speaker 1: I I look at these types of what people call

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Speaker 1: problems as or obstacles as opportunities. So I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: this is like, oh, this is the opportunity. What can

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Speaker 1: I do? You know, we're going to hear more from

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Speaker 1: Patrese in just a second, but first a quick word

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Speaker 1: from our sponsors and we're back and let's jump right

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Speaker 1: Girls Auto Clinic Pries. I was wondering, can you talk

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Speaker 1: us through a little bit about how Girls Auto Clinic

560
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Speaker 1: is helping to empower female mechanics and female car and

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Speaker 1: I was like, what are some of the specific things

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Speaker 1: that your program offers. It's different from other programs that

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Speaker 1: might be out there. Okay, yes, so I got a

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00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: lot of planet is definitely unique UM and I created

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00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: a business that I would want for myself as a

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Speaker 1: woman driver. UM Our mission is to offer automotives, buying

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Speaker 1: and groups, their services, resources and products to women. So

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00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: some of those resources I started out when I was

569
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Speaker 1: knew I was still learning how to work on cars.

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Speaker 1: But as I was learning, I was teaching. I was

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Speaker 1: writing blogs to women about how to take care of

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Speaker 1: their cars. I was performing free UM Carcare workshops every

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Speaker 1: single month, very interactive women come. They learn know own

574
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Speaker 1: cars and they don't know how to pop their hood.

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00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: They learn how to pop their hood. We learned what

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Speaker 1: you can touch, what you can't touch. We learn about

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Speaker 1: parts to be a place and what they looked like,

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00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, things that I wanted to know if I

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Speaker 1: was talking to a mechanic, or what to do if

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Speaker 1: I was in an emergency. I was pulling a lot

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Speaker 1: from my own autohead experiences, and so women were like,

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Speaker 1: this is great. Because I was I had an advantage

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Speaker 1: because I didn't kind of grow up in the industry.

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00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: I came from an auto air head, So I knew

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Speaker 1: exactly how to talk to women and teach them in

586
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: a way that was relatable and and rememberable or remarkable.

587
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: So I say things like, think of your engine like

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00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: a vagina when I talk about the importance of oil,

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00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: or does your car have bodies? Or or does your

590
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: car have bookies when we talk about that air filter

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00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: that they always want to upsell us at the shop,

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00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, when we're going to get our oil tanged,

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Speaker 1: And just just to say, you know, I explained it

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00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: as it's everything less and nothing more. It's not gonna

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00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: be over your head, your eyes aren't gonna glaze over.

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00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: It's relatable, it's fun, it's interactive, and when you're you're

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00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: done learning, you're gonna be empowered. You're gonna you can't

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Speaker 1: wait to go and talk to mechanic and you can

599
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: test your new knowledge, you know, so we we do that. Um.

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Speaker 1: I'm local right now, Willing in Philadelphia. But it's one

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Speaker 1: of my goals is trying to reach as many women

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Speaker 1: as I can. So we have, you know, a Facebook

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00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: page where it's closed group for just women and female mechanics.

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00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: So you can go ask your car about your question,

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Speaker 1: like my car is making this funny? No ways look

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Speaker 1: at it be? Or is this gonna be expensive to

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00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: get displaced? The mechanics telling me it's as much what

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00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: do you think? And it's a safe space because you're

609
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: not gonna feel taken advantage of. You can ask that

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00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: question you think is dumb and you'll get a response

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00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: from a woman mechanic that will be able to lead

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Speaker 1: you in the right direction to make the right choice. Um.

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Speaker 1: And then I also have my book I just wrote,

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Speaker 1: The Girl's Autoquinic Glove Box Guys, which comes out September nineteenth,

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Speaker 1: and that I call that which is like a workshop

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Speaker 1: on the go. So if you can't come to a workshop,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna want this car. This book. It's like a guide.

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Speaker 1: You keep it in your glove box and you'll you're

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Speaker 1: gonna learn everything about how to take care of your car,

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00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: what to do an emergency, how to talk to a mechanic.

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Speaker 1: But really the most important thing that I talked to

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Speaker 1: him about is changing the relationship they have with their car.

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Speaker 1: And it's really how we view it, how we take

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00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: care of it, how we think about spending our money,

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00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: and the choices that we make with our car that

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00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: ultimately are gonna empower us. And so we see our

627
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: car more as like an accessory. We often st our

628
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: bags better than we tweet treat our car right, and

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Speaker 1: we have to change that mentality. And so it's really

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Speaker 1: fun and it's stilled with like auto airhad stories and

631
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Speaker 1: and my my own stories and great tips and information

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00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: and pictures and and everything like that. And then um,

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Speaker 1: recently I just opened a full service auto repair garage.

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Speaker 1: All of my texts are women and um, we have

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Speaker 1: now still on there anything that your nail has done

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Speaker 1: while you wait the car? Yes? And the whole idea

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Speaker 1: was this made me want to hire women? Was I

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Speaker 1: was talking to another girl who was interested in me

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Speaker 1: a mechanic. She told me, well, everyone scouraged her because

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Speaker 1: she was pretty and petite, and they said, you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna make enough money or too small go into something else.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not really for girls. And I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not right, that's not right. I'm gonna hire women.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna show these guys, we're gonna hire women. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna work on cars. And at the time, I had

646
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Speaker 1: no idea that women were capable of actually doing this.

647
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Speaker 1: I'm still in auto airheads, right, and I'm just coming

648
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Speaker 1: up with this idea. I was like, we're gonna hire women,

649
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Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. I just know women are capable.

650
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Speaker 1: I don't know finding female mechanics because I couldn't find

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Speaker 1: one myself. I'm going back to school, but I'm telling

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Speaker 1: people I'm gonna hire female mechanics, right, We'll find them

653
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna do it. You know what, I didn't

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Speaker 1: have to find them. They found me. I found me.

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Speaker 1: Anything to me, and so getting this woman a franchise

656
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Speaker 1: deal mechanics from coast to coast where I can get

657
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Speaker 1: my nails done while my car is getting repaired. Girls

658
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: are so fabulous, man. My team is awesome and we're

659
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Speaker 1: rocking it. We're rocking it, and women are coming, you know,

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Speaker 1: not just I mean are are Like clientele is just

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Speaker 1: so excited that we're They're just like finally the elite booking,

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Speaker 1: Like I can come in and relax. I know I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be okay. We have a huge LGBT community because

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Speaker 1: they finally feel like this is a place they're welcomed

665
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Speaker 1: and they can comfortable in as well. So it just

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Speaker 1: makes me feel good to be able to create a

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Speaker 1: space that I wanted for Ruin myself, because I know

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Speaker 1: that I would want to get my nails done on

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Speaker 1: my oil change, you know, but also a place that

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Speaker 1: women feel comfortable in a comment just being who they

671
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Speaker 1: are and being around other dope women, you know, doing

672
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Speaker 1: dope things. So it's really exciting and I'm definitely looking

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Speaker 1: forward to expanding this UM across the country, um, getting

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Speaker 1: more women hired in My goal, you know with girls

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Speaker 1: auto clanes now is to take girls from auto areas

676
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Speaker 1: what I call chicanics now. I call this my car

677
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Speaker 1: savvy ladies and really and really start a movement to

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Speaker 1: get more within you know, into the trade field, not

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Speaker 1: just as mechanics, but all of them. Like we're capable,

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Speaker 1: we can do this, right, Let's let's start um helping

681
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Speaker 1: these industries filling in the gaps and showing what we

682
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Speaker 1: can do. Petries, thank you so much. We're over here.

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Speaker 1: If I could drop this, Mike, I would for you,

684
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Speaker 1: but that probably wouldn't been good for our listeners. Ears,

685
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Speaker 1: But I'm so excited to hear of this is like

686
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Speaker 1: full on feminist disruption in this industry that you're talking about,

687
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Speaker 1: And I could not applaud what you're doing anymore. Thank you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know where this kind of audacity

689
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Speaker 1: of me to say that. I I did a Ted

690
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: talking um right before that Washington Post article came out,

691
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Speaker 1: and I called it how I plan on disrupting the

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Speaker 1: automotive industry in the red heels. And this is a

693
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Speaker 1: you know, billion, hundreds of billion dollar industry, and I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna disrupt this industry in my red heel. I

695
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: don't even know what I'm talking about. I would just

696
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Speaker 1: know that this is something that women are capable of doing.

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Speaker 1: And I don't say it's just gonna be me right.

698
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Speaker 1: I'm always talking about I need women to make this happen.

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Speaker 1: But my customers come feeling like they are a part

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Speaker 1: of this movement. They're helping female empowerment by being a

701
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Speaker 1: customer of our business, by helping us be successful and

702
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Speaker 1: getting the word out to as many people as possible. Right,

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Speaker 1: And it's what better way can you set up a

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Speaker 1: business and to keep be doing that? But you know,

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Speaker 1: I I know that. That's why I was saying it

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Speaker 1: several years ago. Um, you know. But now let's see

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Speaker 1: what you know. Um, if it's something that I can

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Speaker 1: take nationally, I'd love to do it. UM, be able

709
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Speaker 1: to help this my women as I can and bring

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Speaker 1: these services to them, and at this time be able

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Speaker 1: to bring more women into industry, not just as mechanics,

712
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: but as owners owning you know, girls, auto clinics, owning dealerships.

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Speaker 1: Less than seven percent of women sell cars, even though

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Speaker 1: we so decisions. That's that's insane to me. Yeah, why

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Speaker 1: don't we have more women selling cars and and being

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Speaker 1: in sales. I think it's an excellent way to make money.

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Speaker 1: You want to know why? It's not flexible. It's not flexible.

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Speaker 1: It's not an environment that's welcome to how women work

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Speaker 1: and their lifestyles. You know, So how would I create

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Speaker 1: a company enough change that and give women those opportunities?

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Speaker 1: Because I think there is money to be made, and

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Speaker 1: there's ways to help women, and there's ways to help

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Speaker 1: the industry. Well, we love it so much. Can you

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Speaker 1: shout us out your website? Where can folks information about

725
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Speaker 1: what you're doing in your army of chicanics that are

726
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: changing the world. Okay, yes, So you can find me

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Speaker 1: on Girls auto Clinic dot com. We are on on

728
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Speaker 1: social media across the board at Roles Auto Clinic and

729
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: so you can stand information like our blog, how to

730
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Speaker 1: sign up for workshops. My books coming out this fall.

731
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Speaker 1: We're going to be going on a book tour. So

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Speaker 1: if you aren't in Philly and you're trying to get

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Speaker 1: to a workshop, look for where we're going. Um to

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Speaker 1: see if we're going to be in your city, Um,

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Speaker 1: and can come out and get a book and come

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Speaker 1: learn about your car and um. Yeah, we have a

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Speaker 1: ton of resources for you women. If you are in

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia area, please reach out to us. We're here

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Speaker 1: for women. Like I said, I'm here for women. I'm

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Speaker 1: ready to do this. So I'm ready for us to

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Speaker 1: do this. I'm excited. I know you're saying for doing

742
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Speaker 1: this like it's hard. I mean it's hard work. This

743
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Speaker 1: is exciting I'm so excited to do this stuff. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: when you think about the ways that we could actually

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Speaker 1: improve the status of women in trades, the research actually

746
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: bears out a lot of what produced is saying. There's

747
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Speaker 1: a study from the University of Massachusetts, Boston that basically says,

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Speaker 1: the ways that we get more women represented in the

749
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Speaker 1: trades are the same things that work in other industries

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Speaker 1: like Silicon Valley. We shouldn't be cheating construction in trade

751
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: jobs like they're special cases where include Asian practices won't work.

752
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: The same things that have worked in other fields will

753
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Speaker 1: also work in trades. Right when owners and management set

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Speaker 1: corporate goals and by the way, clear corporate goals that

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Speaker 1: I would hope would be a little more ambitious than

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Speaker 1: in the single digit percentage region, and then commit those

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Speaker 1: adequate resources to actually making significant changes to make those

758
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Speaker 1: goals happen, then those kinds of practices are going to

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Speaker 1: work and make progress in the construction industry. And things

760
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Speaker 1: that might be helpful are a good place to start,

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Speaker 1: according to the u mass Boston study, include monitoring for

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Speaker 1: equal employment opportunity, diversity training that promotes acceptance and respect

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Speaker 1: of differences among groups, and individuals as essential to the

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Speaker 1: culture change of your organization, actual measurement, right tracking and reporting,

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Speaker 1: just as in any other business function around diversity and inclusion,

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Speaker 1: and being clear that general contractors must set and monitor

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00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 1: corporate standard amongst their subcontractors as well. But I also

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Speaker 1: love about this study is that it makes the case

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Speaker 1: that we make so often on this show is that

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Speaker 1: there's a government role and an institutional role to be

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00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: played here. Um, the government can actually be a big

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Speaker 1: force in increasing gender parity in the trades. According to

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Speaker 1: the study, if the government explicitly made enforcement of equal

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Speaker 1: employment opportunities and agency wide priority, they could really get

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Speaker 1: someplace on getting more women are presented in the trades.

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Speaker 1: They should also be making the industry aware of this

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Speaker 1: priority by bringing in industry leaders to promote the benefits

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Speaker 1: of increasing access to women to the economy and of

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Speaker 1: the construction industry. So again, the same things that the

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Speaker 1: same kind of initiatives that I think the government has

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Speaker 1: been implementing in other fields, just doing that in the trades.

782
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Speaker 1: And don't we have a construction mogul in the White

783
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Speaker 1: House right now? We do, if you really think about it.

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Speaker 1: We have a real estate titan of sorts in or

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Speaker 1: at least I'm sure he likes to think of himself

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00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: this way as our chief of staff right now. So

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Speaker 1: if anyone is in a physician to understand that industry

788
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: and how it can be more diverse and inclusive, I

789
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: feel like this is a time for a Trump alert.

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00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: But Donald Trump is the executive in chief in this

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Speaker 1: particular moment, So if he really gave a crap about

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Speaker 1: gender inclusion and equal pay, this seems like something that

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Speaker 1: would be a great flagship program for someone who is

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00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: genuinely and authentically interested in those issues. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: this is his industry. You know, if he wants to

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Speaker 1: be a good business leader, he could show us how

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00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: diversity and inclusion in construction could also yield better bottom

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Speaker 1: line results. He could. He says that he employs women

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Speaker 1: leaders up and down throughout his organization, so I'm sure

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Speaker 1: he'd be willing to spill his trade secrets and share

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00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: with others. L O L. There's a lot of eye

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00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: rolling happening in the studio right now. I was trying.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to avoid saying something that I probably shouldn't say.

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00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I tried so hard not to bring up

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Speaker 1: Trump in this episode, and it here we are every time,

806
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: every time. Another kind of cool way that another Trades

807
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Speaker 1: Women suggested in terms of how we get to gender

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Speaker 1: parity in the trades was media Judalium Cassidy, who is

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Speaker 1: a plumber and a really amazing speaker. She thinks that everyone,

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Speaker 1: even those who don't work in skill trades, has a

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Speaker 1: role to play in closing this opportunity gap. And she says,

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Speaker 1: you know, why not put some awesome women on shows

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Speaker 1: and commercials who are doing trades alongside men. And I

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00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: love this idea, that representation. It's policy and it's good

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Speaker 1: business practices, but it's also TV shows and commercials and

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00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: pop culture. It's it's changing how we think of women

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Speaker 1: in the trades culturally. Yeah, I'd like to see actual

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Speaker 1: trades women highlighted the medium more definitely, both in fiction

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Speaker 1: and nonfiction ways. Yeah, and all the ways. And back

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Speaker 1: by popular demand, we are excited to introduce a new

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Speaker 1: segment that we're bringing back to stuff Mom Never told you.

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Speaker 1: And that is some fan mail. So the Furst letter

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Speaker 1: comes to us from Chris. Thank you for writing in Chris, Chris,

824
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Speaker 1: listen to our marriage versus ambition episode, and this is

825
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Speaker 1: absolutely one of those episodes that we got so much

826
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Speaker 1: response on social media about because it can be a

827
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Speaker 1: challenge to weigh those trade offs, but when it comes

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Speaker 1: to marriage versus ambition. Chris writes a really hopeful email

829
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Speaker 1: that gave us a lot of encouragement when she shared quote,

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Speaker 1: I am quite an ambitious lady and I'm currently permanent

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Speaker 1: faculty at a university in the UK, having jumped ship

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Speaker 1: from the private sector after ten years due to blatant

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Speaker 1: discrimination and just not wanting to deal with that stuff anymore.

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Speaker 1: My husband, on the other hand, has never been particularly

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Speaker 1: ambitious and it's currently a stay at home dad to

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Speaker 1: our four year old daughter. We met when I was

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Speaker 1: in my first year at university. I'd had a messy

838
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Speaker 1: break up a few months before we got together, and

839
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Speaker 1: I had sworn off relationships altogether. Oh the drama of

840
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Speaker 1: being eighteen. So I wasn't hiding my light under a

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Speaker 1: bushel at all. Maybe it's because he always knew what

842
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: he was getting with big dashes of luck and communication.

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Speaker 1: But we've been together nearly eighteen years. Our relationship has

844
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Speaker 1: survived moving across the world Australia to Scotland moving to

845
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Speaker 1: London for my career change. Being poor PhDs don't pay

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Speaker 1: enough to support a family and I'm usually the breadwinner

847
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Speaker 1: in fertility, pregnancy loss and child racing. I just wanted

848
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Speaker 1: to let you know that sometimes it does happen. I

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Speaker 1: love what you're doing with the podcast. I'm so glad

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Speaker 1: I kept my subscription. Chris. We're so glad you kept

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Speaker 1: your subscription too, And we're so glad you wrote in

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Speaker 1: to tell us that it's not all doom and gloom ladies.

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Speaker 1: Even though the research isn't very sunny when it comes

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Speaker 1: to women, our relationships and ambition all getting along. But

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Speaker 1: I so appreciate Chris's example showing us how it does

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Speaker 1: work out sometimes. And Chris, I'm really happy to hear

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Speaker 1: all bad. Well done. So another letter you wanted to

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Speaker 1: d h D episode resonated with me beyond words. I

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Speaker 1: to silence the constant noise in my brain. After going

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Speaker 1: through rigorous tests, as you mentioned, I was diagnosed. The

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Speaker 1: the report which was written up about my test that

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Speaker 1: they thought I was exaggerating my symptoms and everything I

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Speaker 1: was going through. After listening to this episode of your podcast,

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Speaker 1: I feel as though I can link that finding to

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Speaker 1: the fact that I was a woman with a d

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Speaker 1: h D. Thank you so much for breaking this to

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Speaker 1: light through your podcast. I cannot thank you enough, Brandy.

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Speaker 1: I cannot thank you enough for writing this letter. I

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Speaker 1: see so many flashes of myself and what you've written,

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Speaker 1: and I see so many flashes of other women who

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Speaker 1: have written in, other women in my life who have

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Speaker 1: basically said the same thing, which is that their medical

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Speaker 1: professionals were not taking their symptoms seriously because they were women.

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Speaker 1: Um and I'm happy that you got your diagnosis, and

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Speaker 1: I hope that you're you're hanging in there, and thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for writing in So we would love to

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Speaker 1: see more women in the trades, more women getting paid

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Speaker 1: in the trades, more women uh finding great opportunities to

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Speaker 1: be customers of women owned trades businesses like Fortress, And

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Speaker 1: we really want to hear from you. What has your

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Speaker 1: woman in the trades yourself. We want to hear from you,

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Speaker 1: especially if you are considering a career change and trade

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Speaker 1: school sounds like the right place for you. We'd love

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