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Speaker 2: And now welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host, Rob Shooter, and it is Tuesday, which means

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Speaker 2: our dear friend Delana Dixon joins us. Hey, miss d

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Speaker 2: are you there?

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Speaker 1: I am, and it's good to see you again or

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Speaker 1: hear you again. A nice time on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I loved it. We went out with our friends Alex,

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Speaker 2: we had dinner. We got it. My favorite sort of nights.

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Speaker 2: I love starting the nights off early, having a drinky

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Speaker 2: peo with you, mistery, and then painting the town read.

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Speaker 2: Although it's nice to be in dead bye not too late,

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Speaker 2: so that's also a good thing too. I guess. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's jump into the show. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 2: It is tea time. Big breaking story at the top

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Speaker 2: of the show. The leads today of our show are

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Speaker 2: about two dads. One is Taylor Swift's dad and one

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Speaker 2: is Travis Kelsey's father. Let me explain. So, Taylor Swift's

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Speaker 2: father was accused of hitting assaulting a photographer in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Now her camp are fighting back about these accusations. So

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Speaker 2: the statement comes after reports emerged that Scott that's Taylor's dad,

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Speaker 2: Scott had been involved in an altercation with a photographer

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Speaker 2: in Sydney in the early hours of the morning. Local

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Speaker 2: police did confirm that a man had been accused, but

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Speaker 2: they would not say if it was Scott Swift or not.

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Speaker 2: They did mention that the man, who was seventy one

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Speaker 2: years old, that's the same age as Scott, got involved

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Speaker 2: in an incident with a fifty one year old photographer. Now,

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and not letting this story just go by.

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Speaker 2: Often Taylor Swift's people don't respond to silly stuff, but

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Speaker 2: this is very serious, and so they're saying that two

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Speaker 2: individuals were aggressively pushing towards Taylor, grabbing her personal security

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Speaker 2: and threatening a female member of staff. So that's when

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Speaker 2: it appears Taylor's dad got involved. Now, I should say

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Speaker 2: I've been around the Taylor Swift movement family for a

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Speaker 2: long time. The dad the mom are very protective, but

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Speaker 2: they're not aggressive people. They're very good people. They love

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Speaker 2: their daughter. I can't imagine what it must be like

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Speaker 2: having a daughter who is arguably the famous person, the

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Speaker 1: Mystery absolutely, and as you tell more of the story,

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Speaker 1: we're going to see these are situations where dads are

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Speaker 1: trying to protect their children. Now I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: it's always the right way, but if someone is being

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Speaker 1: putting you in a physical altercation or feeling like your

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Speaker 1: child is physically being threatened, I think every father would

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And so we also have a lot of witnesses,

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Speaker 2: and so all this is going to be sorted out.

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Speaker 2: Her security was there because it was Taylor Swift. There

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Speaker 2: was a lot of other photographers, so there's going to

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Speaker 2: be lots of video, lots lots of photographs. The man

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Speaker 2: who alleged a photographer who alleged that he was assaulted,

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Speaker 2: didn't have to go to hospital. He had no serious wounds.

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Speaker 2: And so this is all going to come out. But

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Speaker 2: I think Taylor Swift, it's getting more and more difficult

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Speaker 2: for her to just go out with her friends and

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Speaker 2: have a night out. I think she was on a boat.

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Speaker 2: I think she was out in the harbor of Sydney.

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Speaker 2: Why not. It's the most magnificent harbor in the world,

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Speaker 2: one of them by the Opera House, by the bridge,

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Speaker 2: suddenly there was a legion of photographers. Now, she understands, Taylor,

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Speaker 2: We've seen her in New York. She understands what it's

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Speaker 2: take a picture. But we've also seen, mister, some over

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Speaker 2: the photographers a lot. Explain what happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the photographers obviously are trying to do their

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Speaker 1: job getting their picture, but when it comes to barazzi photography,

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Speaker 1: sometimes I understand you're trying to make your money. But

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Speaker 1: that should be the same for photographers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, the Australian photographers paparazzi are notoriously aggressive, like

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Speaker 2: the British ones, like the London ones too. The second

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey's dad. He is calling Bethany Frankel a troll

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Speaker 2: for criticized in his son's relationship with Taylor Swift. So

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Speaker 2: Bethany out of nowhere. She doesn't know Taylor Swift, she

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Speaker 2: that's Travis's father, shared a story about Bethany double downing

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Speaker 2: this troll? People went crazy? I think this is so

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Speaker 2: much what do you fun? Because not only does he

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Speaker 2: obviously disagree with Bethanye's views, and really it's not even

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Speaker 2: an opinion because she doesn't know them, but he also

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Speaker 2: too hurts Bethany where it hurts the most, which is

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Speaker 2: he has no idea who she is. Bethany needs to

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Speaker 2: be famous. She loves to get attention. I fear that

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Speaker 2: doing this story sort of helps Bethany, But I do

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Speaker 2: think it is funny. Misty. Isn't that the ultimate insult?

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Speaker 2: Like who are you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But you also have to think of it as the

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Speaker 1: ultimate compliment. So if Bethany Frankel takes time out of

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Speaker 2: Arrived people, she just sit in their board, just thinking

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Speaker 2: what could I say to get myself some head lads?

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Speaker 2: Remember she would have to Harry and MegaR Now these two, Oh, Bethany,

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Speaker 2: Bethany Bethany, Which brings us to our whole question of

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Speaker 2: the day. It's all about the dad's Today. Travis Kelsey's

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Speaker 2: dad and Taylor Swift's dad are both in the headlines today.

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Speaker 2: Travis's dad is claiming that Bethanye's a troll for criticizing

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Speaker 2: in the news today because of an alleged attack of

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Speaker 2: a photographer. A question is quite simple. Should dads get involved?

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Speaker 2: Does it help? Should dad's get in? He go vote

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Speaker 2: on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rob. Her Facebook

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Speaker 2: page is Naughty Gossip and be sure to check back

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Speaker 2: tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, miss Steve, what are

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Speaker 2: you working on that?

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Speaker 1: Well? One of the biggest things of the weekend was

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Speaker 1: the Wendy Williams documentary, and there is now outrage among

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Speaker 1: fans as Lifetime Networks handling of her illness comes under fire.

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Speaker 1: So we all watched it. It's just kind of shocking

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Speaker 1: on x formerly known as Twitter. She shouldn't be filmed

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Speaker 1: in this state. She needs care from professionals. This is

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Speaker 1: But after seeing the show, how much permission could she

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Speaker 1: really give? They also noted that they started filming with

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Speaker 1: California her new life, but once they saw the sad truth,

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Speaker 1: they had to go in a different direction. Obviously, a

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Speaker 1: lot came out about Wendy's drinking. We all learned that

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Speaker 1: from her family and also from her guardianships. So, Rob,

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Speaker 1: do you know Wendy, I've met Wendy. What do you

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Speaker 1: think about It's heartbreaking?

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Speaker 2: This documentary broke my heart. I watched all four and

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Speaker 2: a half hours, really really upset, and I did feel

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Speaker 2: as if she was being taken advantage of. Now, I

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Speaker 2: will point out it's legally Lifetime is right. They did

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Speaker 2: get permission from lawyer's attorneys. Lifetime is not some little operation.

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Speaker 2: They don't do this stuff. They have really good lawyers.

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Speaker 2: Lifetime is a massive company and they will make sure

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't air five minutes of a song of music

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Speaker 2: so I know legally they are fine. My question is

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Speaker 2: know that they're feeling some pressure because yesterday the executive

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Speaker 2: producers of this documentary were all over TV defending it.

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Speaker 2: And the one thing they did say that stuck with

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Speaker 2: that Wendy might have a guardian hip. However, she has

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Speaker 2: very few people guarding her. Where was the Guardian? They

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Speaker 2: Will and so we'll did have documentation that the guardianship

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Speaker 3: Where were they when they were filming this. Shouldn't they

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Speaker 3: opens a much bigger question about guardian ships, conservatory ships.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about it with Britney Spears. But I think

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Speaker 3: it also too opens a question about just because we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was extremely sad to watch, and

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Speaker 1: I think when you think about the guardianship, I think

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Speaker 1: reasons they didn't or email is because if they had,

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Speaker 1: But obviously in this case someone needed to be there,

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Speaker 1: even to say you need to stop films.

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Speaker 2: Yes, leave leave. The guardianship should have hired a professional

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Speaker 2: you're not filming today. It's also sad. Okay, this story

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Speaker 2: made me smile. There's rumors we're going to hear them

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Speaker 2: She's not. Now, let me explain why these rumors have

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Speaker 2: blown up. At the sag Award, she was spotted with

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Speaker 2: insiders are telling me that she's not dating. She's actually

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Speaker 1: Okay, ladies, get ready because I'm just Ken is coming

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Laudy boot My show. I'm mom

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Speaker 2: to the poles. Last show, we talked about Wendy William's

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Speaker 3: It's so funny.

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Speaker 1: I just think about every time I get my Uber eats,

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Speaker 2: No one's protecting her. I think Wendy wanted me to

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Speaker 2: I love this a very cheeky. Nicest of the.

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Speaker 1: Day, well, it is very cheeky. The nicest of the

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Speaker 1: day is Martha Stewart because she's got a very unusual

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Speaker 1: any of that structured stuff. No Titan Li, no skims

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Speaker 2: I love this story. Let's do it. Aduti is the day.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of that before. Aduti's the day Doty Doughty,

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Speaker 2: It's Andy Kevin. Brandy Glansville is not letting this go,

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Speaker 2: calling Andy's public apology, saying he never called her to

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Speaker 2: at Bravo. They all have an email, they all have

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Speaker 2: They've got her number. She also emphasized them this is

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Speaker 2: if you can't be in person, doing an apology on Facebook,

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Speaker 2: on social media, on Twitter not acceptable. You've got her number.

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Speaker 2: She is not going away. Let's end with a moment

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Speaker 2: of rob got a rob. Show up as you are

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Speaker 2: every single day, not who you think people want you

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Speaker 2: Rather than who I think you want me to be.

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Speaker 2: Do it today, Everybody, take those masks off and be you. Hey,

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