1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: the e A Podcast with Eric Allen. Take it away. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Thanks fits well. Chad Pennyton is in our studio. He 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: came up all the way up from the South. Uh 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: got the late a little bit today, but we're happy 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: you're here for a special Friday installment of the podcasting. Yeah, 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: how about that on Friday? I think it's the first. 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. I don't remember us doing any Fridays 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: last year. Jets Seahawks? What brings you into town? We 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: know it's a special a weekend when e'uroupe north Well obviously. Uh. 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: I love coming up here and visiting sweet partners for 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: the Jets and thanking them for their support and being 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: part of game day operations. Talking with you on the 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 1: podcast is always fun. And then also doing some entertaining 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: myself with a group of three couples from Lexington, Kentucky 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: who are having a New York Gicks experience. They've been 17 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: to Seth Meyers or going to Yankees game, They're going 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: to the Jets game. They're going to do a facility tour, 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: so part of that experience for them as well, do 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: they have Yankees tickets for tonight because right now the 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: Soaker I don't think that game is gonna take place. 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: I know it's not looking to U dry, but they 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: do have Yankees tickets for tonight Friday night game. Well, 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: you're doing something pre game with the organization too. It's 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: a special white eye. I'm hearing you're doing something for 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: the team right. Well, typically we hang out with our 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: jet fans in the green room and then we take 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: them down to pre game on the field. Let him 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: much warm ups, talk to them there. Um, but there 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: may be something else there is Chad's gonna be on 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: the field. We're gonna have to find out the exact 32 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: details on that. There's something about a new air raid 33 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: air raid, Yes, yes, okay, I got yes, that's right, 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: air raid. I'm all over it. So you're gonna be 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: down there money your ear plus. Yeah, I know. It's 36 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: gonna be my first experience with the air raid. So 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect really. So last weekend 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: at Marshall, we gotta follow up with that. You weren't 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: talked it into the school's journalism Hall of Fame down there. 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: How did your event go? Well? It went really well. Um, 41 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: the w. Page Pit School of Journalism and Mass Communications 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Uh, did you have a speech, had 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of a speech. I just rolled with it, 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, just talked about how special of the place 45 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: Marshall is and has always been. UM. And then we 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: went to the Louisville game. You know, our quarterback was 47 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: down out with a concussion, so we had to start 48 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: a true freshman against the likes of Lamar Jackson. So 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: you can only imagine how that went. UM. But it 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: was a great experience that the crowd was electrifying. It 51 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: was a great, great time there. It got a chance 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: to meet country music singer Craig Morgan. Uh, really talented artist. 53 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Craig, his son I had had planned on 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: coming to Marshall to play football, to walk on, and 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: he died in a tragic boating accident all summer. But 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: so he was up there, great family, uh and really 57 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: good people. So that was neat. I've always been a 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Craig Morgan fan. Now the game itself, I was watching 59 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: the bottom line because he told me you were there, 60 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: and there were a couple other games. I actually we 61 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: were in Kansas City, so I was watching Stanford and 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: u C l A. I think, oh, at et Saturday night, 63 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: I've seen a score come through in the bottom of 64 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: the screen. How did it get away from them so quickly? Well, 65 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: it's the defense was actually playing well. It's just the 66 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: offense had at one time six straight three and outs 67 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: and the defense just couldn't hold. It got to to 68 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: seven with thirty five seconds left going into the halftime 69 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: in Louisville went eighty yards and thirty five seconds and 70 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: made it thirty five to seven. That was pretty much 71 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: the game. Marshall's chances were slim and one, especially with 72 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: their quarterback out um and and the defense held on 73 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: as long as they could. But they're they're very explosive. 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: The Clemson Louisville game is gonna be really interesting this 75 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: week in Death Valley. I'm interested to see that. Then 76 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: you get a chance to talk to Lamar Jackson. I 77 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: did not. I did not. We had numerous people we 78 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: were entertaining, uh there in Huntington's so and and then 79 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: we also had flag football games on Sunday that we 80 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: had to get back to. So I did not get 81 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to Lamar. Alright, so break it down. 82 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna happen when Louisville goes 83 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: into Death Valley to play Clemson, because a lot of 84 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: folks right now we're saying, hey, maybe Louisville's got it 85 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: this year. They got the quarterback, like you just muntioned, 86 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: just they're playing defense. And that's one thing that I 87 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: don't think people understand about this Cardinal team is it's 88 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: more than just Bobby Petrino's offense. They are talented. This 89 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: is a huge test. It is extremely difficult to play 90 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: in Death Valley. I have played in Death Valley before 91 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: and came out victorious, but it's it's extremely difficult. And 92 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: so for a true sophomore quarterback, this is a huge 93 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: test for Lamar Jackson. Just the emotion of it. Um, 94 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: and then also I did yes, yes, and uh, it's 95 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: you and Randy Moss in your back pocket. No, Randy 96 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: was gone already, it was and he was gone. It 97 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: was Terry No Tommy Mawden's first year Clemson, Rich Rodriguez 98 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator. But um, it's a great place 99 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: to play. But it's gonna be interesting. I think Clemson 100 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: will try to force Lamar Jackson to be a pocket passer. 101 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: That's where I think he struggles right now in his 102 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: young career. Wants to get out and run around and 103 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: play backyard ball, and they're gonna try to force him. 104 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: It's a great matchup between Watson and Jackson. Do you 105 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: see the same thing in Watson as you do in 106 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: Jackson as far as more athletic than a pastor or 107 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: you think at this stage of his career he's a 108 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: little bit more advanced than Jackson in the pocket, No question, 109 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: Watson is more advanced as a passer, more groomed and seasoned. 110 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: Um he can operate in the pocket. Um, so yes, 111 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: he there's a distinct difference there. Um. Jackson may be 112 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: more athletic just as far as raw talent, but Watson 113 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: has come into his own nicely. As far as a 114 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: quarterback is concerned, I think Jackson is learning how to 115 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: be a quarterback. If you're a Houston Cougar fan, you 116 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: have to be a rooted for Louisville because you get 117 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Louisville in your place later in the season. And Greg 118 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Wards speaking about great athletes who played a quarterback position, 119 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: he's another one. Well exactly in Houston now the American Conference, 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean they are that is awesome to see and 121 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: to be able to see what they've been able to 122 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: do and coming off that huge Bowl win last year 123 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: against Florida Stay and beating Oklahoma early in the season. Um, yeah, 124 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: they're they're very interested because that just makes their game 125 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: with Louisville even bigger if Louisville beats Clemson in Death Valley. 126 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: What do you think about Houston's first The Big twelve 127 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: is concerned and a lot of people talking about Big 128 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: twelve expansion. Folks in Oklahoma don't want Houston in the 129 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: Big twelve because that's part of UH their area where 130 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: they're taking a lot of recruits from. So they gotta 131 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: be in the competing with all these Texas schools to 132 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: begin with. Now, if Houston goes from the American to 133 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: the Big twelve, watch out. Do you think Houston should 134 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: be in the Big twelve? Well, Houston can be in 135 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: the Big twelve because financially they have the support to 136 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: do that. That's what it boils down to now in 137 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: college athletics is can can you produce the financial support 138 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: to hang with the Power fives? Houston? Can? They have 139 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: the alumni base, they have the money, the oil money, 140 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: have all of that to be able to compete financially 141 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: and obviously the big twelve nees Houston. Now. Teams like 142 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: Oklahoma may not want Houston in there, but um, it 143 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: would be a good move for Houston because the way 144 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: college football is going unfortunately, you're going to have the 145 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: haves and the have nots, and you need to be 146 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: if you're going to be on that big stage, you 147 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: need to be in the group with the halves. And 148 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: Houston can't. They can do that, they have the ability 149 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: to do that. Do you get disappointed when you see 150 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 1: a school like l s U remove Less Miles after 151 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: four games? I know he's been there for a long time, 152 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: but just the climate of it, it's just it's tough 153 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: to see from an outsider's perspective, sure it is. It's 154 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: very disappointing. I think it's a Black Island college football 155 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: because we have taken an amateur sport and made it 156 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: a professional style sport in a free market that is 157 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: not a free market. Um. You have student athletes who 158 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: are getting scholarships to to play and coaches being paid 159 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: millions of dollars, and then if a booster is not 160 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: entertained enough, he can help pull the trigger on getting 161 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: the coach fired. You've fired a coach who over eleven 162 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: seasons average over ten wins a year, and and and 163 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: most programs you're very very happy with that. So backflips 164 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:23,239 Speaker 1: at places like per New, no question. So it's disappointing. 165 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: I think it's bad for college football and I hate 166 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: to see it. All Right, Jets, Chiefs, you went through 167 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: the tape. I don't think there's really too much to 168 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: review other than miss opportunities. We know that. But looking 169 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: ahead the Seattle, this team, the New York Jets this 170 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: week coming to the ball game one and two offensively 171 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: and then finished last week. We talked about it. They 172 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: moved the ball up and down at times, but now 173 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: they're missing one of their key parts. And Eric Ducker, 174 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: if you're Ryan Fitzpatrick, how does that impact you? Is 175 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: you going to this ballgame chat? Well? I still think 176 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: for Ryan it's about decision making, and regardless of who 177 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: you have out there at the skill positions, you still 178 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: have to make solid decisions. And uh, typically when you 179 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: have players like Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall, you typically 180 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: tend to make a decision once or twice that you 181 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't make with most receivers because you trust him so much. 182 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: So with a guy like Eric Decker out now, you 183 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: really have to focus on the decisions you are making 184 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: and really evaluate the risk versus reward um because the 185 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: reward is not going to be good enough for the 186 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: risk that you're taking when you don't have an Eric 187 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Decker out there to make that play. So obviously he 188 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: has to rely upon Brandon Marshall. He's got to rely 189 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: upon his two running backs, uh Quincy and Noon. One 190 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: was gonna He's gonna be a huge factor. I think 191 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: his development has now allowed the Jets at least to 192 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: feel comfortable that when something likes that this happens, they 193 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: can count on him to be a number two. Now 194 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: he has earned that right to step into that role 195 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: and do some of those things. But it's going to 196 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: be different, there's no doubt about it. You mentioned the 197 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: Noon and his development. Now you can see him play 198 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: outside in the numbers that just have been doing this already, 199 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: or you can use them inside against Seattle. We know 200 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: what that secondary has Earl Thomas Range free safety. He's 201 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: a playmaker. Cam Chancellor, He's the guy seems like he 202 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: gets it all gone for them. He gets them all pumped, 203 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: big hitter, always looking for the knockout shot. Then you 204 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: got Richard Sherman on one side. Jeremy Lane is back 205 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: with the Seahawks this year. But when you think about 206 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: that secondary, if you're if you're a quarterback and it's 207 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: a team that plays a lot of Cover three, Um, 208 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: what does it mean to you when you're facing that 209 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: kind of talent in a secondary? Well, I think, first 210 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: of all, when you mentioned cover three, typically that means 211 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: three deep, four under, and that also means one on 212 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: one coverage. Fortunately for the Seahawks on the outside, they've 213 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: been able to win those one on one matchups because 214 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: of Richard Shermon and Browner when he was there, and 215 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: and those type of players. Um. So when you see that, 216 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: you'd like to think trying to work inside. Now you 217 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: have to deal with an extra player inside because now 218 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: you have four underneath and not three. So I think 219 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: that is it will still be a mix. I think 220 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall still feels like he can go out and 221 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: compete with Richard Sherman because of his physicality. Um, but 222 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna be judicious on that. You still have to 223 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: give him respect and realize that you're just not gonna 224 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: make a living out there. Um, and you need to 225 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: work inside. You need to get the linebackers, you need 226 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: even even need to get Cam Chancellor on one on 227 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: one situations. I don't think pass coverage would be his 228 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: cup of tea exactly. So UM, this is UH. This 229 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: is a game where chain Ailey UH will be very creative, 230 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: will be very judicious on his shots and where he 231 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: and Ryan they have to be on the same page 232 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: and making sure that they do everything they can to 233 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: get the Jets to the fourth quarter, UH, in front 234 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: of a home crowd with a chance to win. That 235 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: that's the key, is the playbook? Scale back, How does 236 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: it work when you develop a game plan throughout the week. 237 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: Because the Jets new Eric Decker was banged up. They 238 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: didn't know he'd be out until Friday, but they practiced 239 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: the entire week without Deckers, so they knew this could 240 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: be likely that he's out of the lineup. Then Jalen Marshall, 241 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: the rookie who's had his ups and downs here Earlin 242 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: this season. He tores labor m so the Jets knew 243 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: they'd be dealing without him. So now to your top 244 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: four receivers here early in the season or out of 245 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: the lineup. So how does that impact when you're devising 246 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: a game plan? How does that impact the offensive coordinator 247 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: of the game, the quarterback during the week. Well, I 248 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: don't think scale back is probably in the necessary phrase. 249 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: I think different. It's gonna look different, Um, it's gonna 250 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: feel different. I think some of the similar concepts that 251 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: the Jets like to run will just be run by 252 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: different people with different looks, different personnel groups, different formations. 253 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: Let's remember the number one receiver is still there, the 254 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: top two running backs are still there. A Noon whir 255 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: who we could say is a number two. Now he's 256 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: earned that I think is there. Well, most teams will 257 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: be happy to go with their number one, number two 258 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: and or top two running backs. They would feel pretty 259 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: good about that. So the coverage not empty by no 260 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: stretch of imagination. It's just that it's gonna look different, 261 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be players that are gonna be caught 262 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: upon to do some different things that you may have 263 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: not seen yet. How do you neutralize Russell Wilson. Here's 264 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: a guy who's got the second old time the highest 265 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: passer rating in NFL history, I know he's playing for 266 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: a ton of years, but he's a gamer who's accurate 267 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: with the football, doesn't make a ton of mistakes, is 268 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: not the biggest guy, and he's been hearing that all 269 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: throughout his life. But he just makes plays, and especially late, 270 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: it seems like when the Seahawks need a play, he 271 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: delivers sure. And I think that probably what we have 272 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: overlooked over the last few years for Russell Wilson's success 273 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: is the success of their running game. And so with 274 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: Rawls out, with obviously Marshawn Lance being retired, I think 275 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: that's why you've seen a little bit of lack of 276 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: production in their offense as far as scoring the ball 277 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: um where they've relied more on field goals and things 278 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: until this past week against San Francisco. So I think 279 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: uh Number one is stop the run and and make 280 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson drop back. Because if you stop the run, 281 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: the play action and the half rolls, the half bootlegs, 282 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: those aren't as effective because the run is not there. 283 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: So now if you make him more of a dropback 284 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: passer instead of a quarterback movement passer where he can 285 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: get out on the edge, now that really plays into 286 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: the hands of the Jets defensive pass rush. Huge week 287 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: for the Jets outside linebackers. I would imagine when you 288 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: think about whether they're playing sub or base. Guys like 289 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Jenkins, a rookie out of Georgia who made his 290 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: pro debut last week, Lorenzo Malden in his second year, 291 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: UM Mike Catta panel, if he's up, if he's active. 292 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: Those guys who play the outside linebacker spot, they gotta 293 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: set that edge because you know, the Jets can bring 294 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: the heat on the interior, and I think there's a 295 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: lot of mismatches up front, man for man when you're 296 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: thinking about guys like Wolkerston, Richardson, Williams and company. But 297 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: those guys on the edge, whether you run on four 298 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: three or three four in the Jets are multiple in 299 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: their fronts. They gotta set it well. And then that's 300 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: the key is to set the edge. And so when 301 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: you're rushing the passer, when you're rushing a quarterback like 302 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson off the edge, you're not necessarily rushing to 303 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: sack him. You're rushing to contain him and make him 304 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: stay on his spot. A lot of dropback passers, you're 305 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: trying to move them off of their spot. You want 306 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson to stay on his spot because of his 307 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: lack of size and because of his running ability. So 308 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: you have to understand that as a pass rusher, that's 309 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: situational awareness that's gained preparation. Though I can't just rush 310 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: him to sack him. I rushed to contain him, and 311 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: then if we have a chance to sack him after 312 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: we've contained him in the pocket, we do that make 313 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: him a passer, create multiple decisions for him. This guy 314 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: has been hampered by injuries here early in season. I 315 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: think you had a sprained ankle in Week one and 316 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: then uh most recently against the forty Niners, suffered a 317 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: niece brain. Now Wilson behind this offensive line, which on 318 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: paper should have all sorts of problems with the Jets 319 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: defensive line, you got a banged up quarterback. Do the 320 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks do what they do or even with Russell maybe 321 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: not a pcent even though the Jets are treating I'm like, 322 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: it's because they know what kind of compositor he is. 323 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: Do they move the pocket roll? Well, I think they 324 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: experiment with the quick passing game. I think teams have 325 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: had success with that that. Teams have also had success 326 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: with crossing routes. Kansas City had really good success against 327 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: the Just defense with crossing routes tight ends and receivers 328 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: on those shallow five the six yard crossing routes that 329 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: actually turned into fifteen to twenty yard gains because the 330 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: defenders now behind or they did not pass it off 331 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: in time. So I think to help them with the 332 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: running game, you're gonna see short passing game, you're gonna 333 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: see ball out of his hand quickly. You can move 334 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: him and get him on the edge. But I just 335 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: think that the crossing routes and the quick outs and 336 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: things like that with their receiver is probably the way 337 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: to go in the passing games and then add the 338 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: down the field shot off the play actions. So judge, 339 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: fans have been asking me this, in your eyes, what's 340 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: been the problem with the crossing routes, And we talked 341 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: about Kelsey last week. Bart Scott said, Hey, this is 342 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: uh simple communication. The guys just got to communicate better. 343 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: As far as those a lot of the little rubs 344 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: you're getting there on the inside and creating space for 345 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: the Titans and the receivers. I think it's communication number 346 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: one and then number two, and probably just as important 347 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: as communication is anticipation, you know, really going back and 348 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: looking at the first three games and seeing how teams 349 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: are attacking you and anticipate those type of routes and 350 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: force the opponent to run something different. Uh, So you're 351 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: jumping those crossers, You're jumping all those different ways that 352 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: they're trying to create those rub actions with picks and 353 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: things like that because of the man coverage. You need 354 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: to anticipate that, force them to use another part of 355 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: their game plan, and then once they choose to do that, 356 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: to prove that they can do that, then you make 357 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: the adjustment. But right now, there's been no reason not 358 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: to continue to do crossing routes. They're there and they've 359 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: been successful, So I think Seattle will do the same thing. Yeah. 360 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: And then lastly, as far as the defense match up 361 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: here with the Seahawks, is you mentioned Russell likes to 362 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: get the ball down the field. Don't They have the 363 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: prototypical number one receiver, But Doug Baldwin already has twenty 364 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: catches this year. Jimmy Graham's starting up here on the radar, 365 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: a guy who really didn't fit with them and and 366 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: didn't have any chemistry frankly with Wilson last year. And 367 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: you guys got a guy like Curse and also lock it. 368 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: But Wilson likes to throw the ball down the field. 369 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: Kansas City was an offense where it's in there for 370 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: them to take shots. But Alex Smiths more of a guy, 371 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: is gonna be more conservative with the football, make sure 372 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't make any mistakes. This is a different team 373 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: they'll when you're facing Seattle right because they will take 374 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: their vertical shots well. And the reason that they do 375 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: is because they trust their defense, and their defense is 376 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: being able to back them up when they may not 377 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: be as e fishing offensively because of their vertical shots. Also, 378 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: their vertical shots have also come off of their run 379 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: actions and where the running game has been successful in 380 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: the past. So that's why stopping the run early and 381 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: making them more one dimensional was really important. But there's 382 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: no doubt because Seattle is gonna look at those first 383 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: two games and see all those big plays that were 384 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: happening in the Buffalo and Cincinnati. The Jet did do 385 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: a good job of eliminating the big play against Kansas City, 386 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: where in the first two games they did not, So 387 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: Seattle will try the big shot and the big play 388 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: because they're going to make sure that the Jets proved 389 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: that they can still stop that. Rivas said it was 390 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: a must win in the locker room this week. This 391 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: is the fourth game of the season, and you've been 392 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: on the field, you been in a locker room before. 393 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: How would you characterize this game in terms of it's 394 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: a it's a it's a the importance of it. Well, um, 395 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: I think I think Vas talking about it being a 396 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: must win is more about the sense of urgency that 397 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: the team needs to have and to erase the memory 398 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: of Kansas City more than it is saying, hey, if 399 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: we lose this, it's over. I don't think that's the case. 400 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: I just think that the team needs to have a 401 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: sense of urgency. The young guys need to understand there's 402 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: a difference between being two and two and one and three. 403 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: Those two records, even though they're one game apart, feel 404 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: light years apart. When you're on an NFL team, when 405 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 1: you've went one and three in the first quarter of 406 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: your season, it does not is a terrible feeling, whereas 407 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: two and two you made some progress, but you're not 408 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: where you want to be, but you feel good about 409 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: moving into second. You're not that far away, not that 410 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: far away. One three just feels really you have some 411 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: ground to make. It feels really bad. And and I've 412 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: been on teams that have been one in three and 413 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: we've been able to fight through that. But it takes 414 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: a lot of energy and exhaust your team to get 415 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: back back on the winning side. And finally, here you 416 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: see this playing out where if the Jets don't turn 417 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: a football over, this is a low scoring game in 418 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: a fourth quarter where they will have an opportunity to 419 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: win it. Yeah, I think that. I think that the 420 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: Jets offense every possession needs to end with a kick 421 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: of some sort. Uh if it does that place into 422 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: their favor. Uh. If they're punting, then you're playing field position. 423 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: If you're kicking, you're either getting three points or attacking 424 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: on an extra point. And so I see it as 425 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: a fifteen twelve, seventeen thirteen, eighteen fifteen. I see that 426 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: possibly could be a lot of field goals, but that's okay. 427 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: If you're moving the ball and keeping your defense off 428 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: the field and still getting those three points, that is 429 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: a positive in this game, no doubt. About it, and 430 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: that's a big thing for Fits. What what would you 431 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: say to Fits Well, I think that the natural tendency 432 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: coming off a game where you've thrown six interceptions. I've 433 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: thrown five before in the pros and it's not a 434 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: good feeling at all. The natural tendency is to try 435 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: to do everything you can to erase that memory. But 436 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: you actually need to pull back a little bit and 437 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: allow the game to come to you, um knowing that 438 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: your shots are gonna be there, your opportunities to make 439 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: a big play is going to be there. Don't go 440 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: looking for the big play. Let the big play happen. 441 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: Think about moving the chains, think about being consistent, and 442 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: really think about your own mental mindset. That's so important 443 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: that you are processing your reads, your process and information 444 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: and you feel good about where you are mentally. Don't 445 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: try to make up for that. That's gone. It's over 446 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: with and move on. Well, Chef Pennyson, good to see 447 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: you up in New Jersey. We'll see you over at 448 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: My Life. Absolutely, I thank you.