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Speaker 1: Daniel did not mention at the top, which I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to gush about, but I thought was one of

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Speaker 1: your more underrated performances because I loved the film all

431
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Speaker 1: the way around was Secret Life of Walter Middy. Oh thanks.

432
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: The whole thing was just that I loved that film.

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Speaker 1: I loved you and that felt. Yeah. I can, I'm sorry,

434
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 1: I can gush all day. I'm trying to be cool

435
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: like I was when I was eighteen and I first

436
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: met you. Um No, I love that movie too. I

437
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: I obviously Ben still directed that and he directs a

438
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: lot of Severance as well, and and watching him, uh

439
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: direct Walter Middy and also star in it, and just

440
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: like how he built that world and everything was just

441
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: sort of one of those life changing just sort of

442
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: shifted my idea of um of of making stuff and

443
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: what's a bowl and what you can? I mean, it's beautiful,

444
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: it was really beautiful. That's incredible. Is that what led

445
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: to Severance? Is that it was the connection with Stiller

446
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: from MIDI what brought you into Severance? Or yeah, I

447
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 1: just met him once at um at a premiere. Uh.

448
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: I forget what movie it was. It was like one

449
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: of the like Apatao World premiers. I wish I could

450
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: remember which one it was, but I just met him

451
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: and he came up and talked to me. I couldn't

452
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: believe I was talking to Ben Stiller and he was

453
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: he liked step Brothers and so he was like talking

454
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Speaker 1: about and then like a year or two later, he

455
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: just asked me to to be in uh In Walter

456
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: Middy and and so that's sort of where where yeah,

457
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: where that connection started. And so I'm sorry, just to

458
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: go back very quickly. You had to audition twice for

459
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: Boy Me Tworld. That's right, were an asked, that's right,

460
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: just making sure I have the crinology correct as we

461
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: moved forward. That's perfect. That makes perfect sense. Okay, So

462
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: I have to talk to you about this one particular

463
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: episode that you were in in season two. You are

464
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: in an episode called Thriller and Phila where you set

465
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: up a wrestling match between Corey and Joey, and that

466
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: involves cameos from Vader, Robert Goulay, Jasmine Belief not according

467
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: to her, she's playing herself, and you made out with her. Yeah,

468
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: this was one of the things where one of the

469
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: situations where I was like, wait, what what do I do?

470
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: I hope we all were that episode. That episode was

471
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: so insane. That was nuts. And writer, didn't you like

472
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: get in the ring and wrestled like that? Dude? I thought,

473
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: I thought, Vader, that's what I thought, Vade Vader where

474
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: he's lifting me up by the neck and throwing me

475
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: off the thing, and god, God, But the joy of

476
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: that to me is apparently I'm glad you remember Yasmine

477
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: Bleith was there too, because in the fact of actually

478
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: taping it and it being on television, she apparently denies

479
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: being on the show. What what we've heard is that

480
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: she's like, I was never on And you want to

481
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: say to her, like, the cameras were there, there's footage.

482
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: I have the receipts on YouTube exactly. You can you

483
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: can google it. Yeah, but they're they're all in the

484
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: same scene, all those crazy guest stars are in the

485
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: same scene. And so what I remember about that day

486
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: was that we shot it all in like an hour

487
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: and a half, Like it was. Robert was here from

488
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 1: three pm to four pm, and it was just like

489
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: and I remember sitting around craft Service and it was

490
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: just a circus, like literally a circus, and he's like,

491
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: you're just waiting for the elephants and the lions to

492
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: like go by, and then we're all just like get

493
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: in the ring, do the scene. And you can feel

494
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: that energy when you watch it, because well, we watched

495
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: it for the DVD commentary. It's one of the few

496
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: episodes I remember watching, so we watched it with Michael

497
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: Jacobs on the DVD commentary. We cut it out from

498
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: the DVD because we watched that episode and did commentary

499
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: for it, and at the end of it, Michael was like,

500
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: can we gonna we need a better episode. We're not

501
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: gonna do that commentary because while we were watching it,

502
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: we're all like, what what has happened? Like we could

503
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: see Michael just n rallies like we need a different episode.

504
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: It's not on the commentary he fired. He fired his

505
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: own commentary, Why do you remember about that day? And

506
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: like working with Yasmine and what was that too? Because

507
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm assuming she was just there for that one day,

508
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: so there was really like no rehearsal, No, no, she

509
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: was there for I don't remember. I'm sure she was not.

510
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: I just don't we must have had like a stand

511
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: in come in when we were rehearsing her right as yea,

512
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: But I just remember her being there for like fifteen

513
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: minutes or something. Seemed like she was in and out.

514
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: Had do have you ever need had you ever needed

515
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: to kiss anybody on camera? Was that your first on

516
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: camera kiss? Oh? You heard it here first. I've never

517
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: actually thought of that before. My first on Screaming Kids

518
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: was with Yasmine Leaf. It was it was a huge deal.

519
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: And you know what, this was an early lesson in

520
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: show business for me because I think since it was

521
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: so early on, I always figured if you're doing something

522
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: crazy like that with all of these big famous people

523
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: and you're in the middle of a ring like announcing

524
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: something and on on TV. I remember that that episode

525
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: airing and me being like, I'm on TV with with

526
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: Yasmine Bleef and Robert It was this this huge thing

527
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: at the time, this was such a huge deal. But

528
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: still I'm in a studio apartment and I can't get

529
00:29:54,400 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: my agent to like and yeah, exactly, like, oh, doesn't

530
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: really matter that much. Well, you still owe your manager

531
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: for that straight together fourty dollars to pay my manager. Um,

532
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: it's you know will before I forget, I do I remember?

533
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: Just so you know, I was how like nervous we

534
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: were to talk to you guys. I remember distinctly talking

535
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: to you about Spider Man. Um uh once. Do you

536
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: remember this? I'm sorry, I don't. Yeah, talk to so

537
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: many nerd I have so many nerd conversations. I'm surprised

538
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: I didn't bond. But like in like I just or five.

539
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: I can't believe I remember a conversation about Spider Man

540
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: with you because I think at the time it was

541
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: rumored that James Cameron was going to make a Spider

542
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 1: Man movie or something and and uh and and so

543
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: I remember really distinctly. I think I'm assuming because it

544
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: was a big moment to get to like have an

545
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: actual conversation with with one of the stars of the show.

546
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: So anyway, just so you know how we talked about.

547
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Do you remember what we talked about? I think we

548
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: were talking about how you were perfect to play Spider Man.

549
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: Was that I don't know. It wasn't like like you're

550
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: feeling like it should happen for you were just like,

551
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, can you imagine how amazing that would be?

552
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: And feel like I'm perfect for Peter part you know stuff.

553
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: I was letting my nerd flags fly out anyone that

554
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: would listen, and you were perfect for it. In that

555
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: same vein I have heard I've read you have told

556
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: this story before, but I would like for you to.

557
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: I would like to hear you tell it here, because

558
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: it's when I read it the first time. I was like, what,

559
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: can you please tell us the story about the message

560
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: board you stumbled on after you had after you were

561
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: off of boy Meat's World. I don't know about this.

562
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: This was I think this was. It must have been

563
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: after I was on boy Meats World. Um, first of all,

564
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: I have to talk about two different, h awkward interactions

565
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: that I had on on This all kind of goes

566
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: to show just how little I knew about how you're

567
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: supposed to behave and basic human interaction. I felt there

568
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: were the laws of gravity were completely flipped when you're

569
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: in this perfect air conditioned world. I just had no

570
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: idea how to behave. So I remember, you know, Blake

571
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: and Ethan had kind of taken me under their wing

572
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: early on, and and uh, we're kind of they were,

573
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: like you said, they were like the cool guys. And

574
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: so I remember one day I got to work and

575
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: I told Blake and Ethan super dirty joke. I don't

576
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: remember what it was. And I didn't really know many

577
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: people yet, and they were like, oh my god, that's hilarious.

578
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: They were laughing. They're like, you know who would love

579
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: this joke is Tony Quinn. He would think it's just hilarious.

580
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: You have to tell him right now. And I was like, okay,

581
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: cool friend, Oh they set you up. Yeah, And so

582
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: I went over to Tony was the sweetest guy, and

583
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: but I didn't know him, and I told him this.

584
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what it was. I just remember

585
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: it was like Tony very Christian, very conservative, that's right,

586
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: very clean cut guy, unbeknownst to me, and I just

587
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: remember hitting like the punch line. I remember we were

588
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: standing the the bleachers for the audience were behind him,

589
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: the empty bleachers, because we were like in the middle

590
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: of a day, and I remember him just being stone

591
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: faced looking at me after the joke and just being like, well,

592
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: it sounds like those people need a lot of help.

593
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: Like whatever, the joke was right, and then they walked

594
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: away and I was like, huh and E were like,

595
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: just that was great. God, that is a classic that

596
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: describes their dynamic to a t. That is, I do

597
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: I just see you standing in front of Tony hitting

598
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: the joke going like and they called themselves the aristocrats.

599
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: That's kind of a great prank. Who do you think

600
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: about it? Pretty funny? Yeah, so that was one. The

601
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: other one is something that has been bothering me for

602
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: twenty was it twenty six years now? Jesus Christ? Right? Yeah, okay,

603
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: this is And I don't think I've ever told anyone

604
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: about this except recently since I've known I'm coming on

605
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: the show. I told uh, my friend Zach about and

606
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: I told my family about it. Like I get to

607
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: finally ask writer about this thing. I don't know if

608
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: you remember this, writer, probably not. Okay, it was the

609
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: I am on the edge of my yeah, yeah, literally,

610
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: this has been tugging at me for twenty nine years.

611
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: According to Daniel Um it was the season finale of

612
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: season two. As it turns out, one of my episodes

613
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: was the finale, so we're kind of off to the side.

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00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember what There was a scene going on,

615
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: which was the last scene that that would be shot

616
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: for the for the season. We were off to the

617
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: side watching. I was with Blake and Ethan. Writer, you

618
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: were there with a different group of people, but we're

619
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: all sort of standing around. Everyone's kind of gathering around

620
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: knowing that the last scene was about to was about

621
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: to finished, and the scene ends. Again, I'm just like, okay,

622
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: I have no sense of accomplishment here. I'm not really

623
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: a part of this, but I can tell something's about

624
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: to happen. The scene ends, everyone just erupts and starts cheering.

625
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: End of the season. Blake and Ethan high five and hug.

626
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: They come up to me, high five and just cheering.

627
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: And again I'm like, okay, sure, let's this is great.

628
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: Sure um. And then Blake and Ethan go up to

629
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: you writer and they give you high five and hug you.

630
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: And and then after they do that, I'm like, hey, congratulations, buddy,

631
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: and I give you a high five, and I and

632
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: I go in and hug you, and as I do that,

633
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: you push me off and you give me this look

634
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: like wait a second, who the are you? And then

635
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: you run away? Are you serious? Yes? Why would I

636
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: do that? Do you do? You not? Do not at all?

637
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: So glad you don't remember that because to some extent

638
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: that means it wasn't a traumatic experience. But I remember

639
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: just being like, no, I'm sorry, what just happened? What

640
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: did no? No? No, my god, okay no. And it

641
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: actually doesn't sound like me at all because I was

642
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: generally hugger. He's such a hugger, but he was a

643
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: little kid and I was the stranger, grown up getting

644
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: I again had no idea what I was supposed to say.

645
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: It like we were supposed to all be joyous and

646
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: hug each other. Oh god, it was horrifying. No, no recollection.

647
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: And like I said, that totally doesn't sound like me

648
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: at all. Something something going on there, honestly, because writer

649
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: is such a hugger and a total stranger. It was

650
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: the end of season two. We obviously worked with you

651
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: for at least four episodes, and because you include Sword

652
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: of Yeah, okay, okay, so that's such again, my god

653
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: nine uh yes. And I remember being surprised when I

654
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: got the call to come be in UH three a

655
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: few months later because because because of that, um, it's

656
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: so it's so funny you read on the message, Okay,

657
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: So then I read uh some message board because this

658
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: was like early days of internet. Obviously it was like right,

659
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: So I there was some message, but I do not

660
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: a o l probably and I remember going on there

661
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: and just being so thirsty for any recognition or anyone

662
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: even uh knowing that I that I was on on

663
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: television and I think I read somewhere they said someone said,

664
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: well I heard that to Panga doesn't like Griff. What

665
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: is that? What the story? I think what you heard

666
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: was that I told someone that no one likes you.

667
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: This is someone that someone wrote on a message board. Well,

668
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: I know someone Danielle like goes to school with. I

669
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: know someone who knows Danielle, and she says that nobody

670
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: likes him. That's what I can guarantee you is not true.

671
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: Because there's there's two ways for one thing, that just

672
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 1: wasn't true. Nobody didn't like you. That was just not

673
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: That was not the situation. The second reason is because

674
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: I didn't talk about boy Meets World at school Boy

675
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: Meat's World. I mean, if somebody asked me a question,

676
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: I would, But like, it wasn't super cool to be

677
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: gone from school all the time, and I was at

678
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: a new school. I would have been in like seventh

679
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: grade at that time, and so I wasn't at school

680
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: being like, well, we've got this new guy, Adam Scott.

681
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: Nobody really likes him, so I'm not sure what his

682
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: future looks like. Is we move into season two of

683
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World, Like, I'm not having those conversations as

684
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: a thirteen fourteen year old in junior high. That's not happening. Well, yeah,

685
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: I also have to say that reading that, I was

686
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: just like but also at the same time I was

687
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a thrill to it

688
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: because I was being talked about on the internet in

689
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: reference to the show. I was telling everyone, God, we

690
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: didn't like you. But that was just me that I

691
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: didn't write it anywhere that would have been rude, but

692
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: I was telling everyone I could. I still am just

693
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: picturing Rider shoving, you know. I wonder what was going on.

694
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: Maybe you could also have been kind of built up

695
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: and over dramatized over these last you know, twitter nine years.

696
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: Who knows, but I can see it. I remember it

697
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: so badly. It's just so crazy. It's a great story. God,

698
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: that's so funny. How long has it been since you've

699
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: seen one of your Boy Meats World episodes? Would you

700
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: like to watch one right now? Yeah? You know, I

701
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: I've seen clips and stuff on like on Twitter sometime. Um,

702
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: I think I've seen some. I think my daughter found

703
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: like a compilation She's Sport Team now, like when she

704
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: was like twelve, she was like, what's this and played

705
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: it and then started watching the show and getting into

706
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: the show and got into Girl Meets World as well.

707
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: Uh So in the past few years, I've seen like

708
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: clips and stuff, but to sit down and watch an

709
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: entire episode, it's spent a long time. You got to

710
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: do some really great scenes where you played like, for

711
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, a total jerk to like

712
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Mr Feenie. Do you remember what are your experiences working

713
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: with Bill Daniels, What do you remember about him? Incredible?

714
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: I He's the graduate, Red's the guy has been in

715
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: so many incredible movies, such a great actor. And he

716
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: was so kind to me because I was, like I said,

717
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 1: I was really nervous. And there was like that scene

718
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: where I'm in his office and I like, uh, flirt

719
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: with his with his his assistant who comes in. And

720
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: I think that might be the first Griff episode where

721
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: that was because I think it was one of my

722
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: first scenes generally, and I was really nervous and and

723
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: and as we were doing it, um we would do

724
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: a take and all the producers and writers would like

725
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: flock in around me and start giving me notes, changing lines,

726
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: all this stuff. And so I immediately, just as I

727
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: do today, if that happens, it's like, oh what am

728
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: I doing wrong? Okay? And but then I couldn't really

729
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: handle it, and so I started trying to um play

730
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: these notes that they were giving me, and it was

731
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: like all over the place. And I just remember after

732
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: a few times of that habit kept, they kept kind

733
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: of coming in and tweaking what I was doing. Bill

734
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: just leaned into me, just whispered, He's like, don't listen

735
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: to any of them. Just do something like something like that.

736
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: Like he used a curse word, which was super cool,

737
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: so cool, and he was just like, forget what, forget

738
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: it all, forget what they're telling you. That's so great.

739
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: And he would just give you those little nuggets of

740
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'd assume he did that for you guys too.

741
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: He didn't. Absolutely. Now I have a question for you,

742
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: because you're you were so nice back then, by all accounts,

743
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: you're so nice. Now, why do you think you're always

744
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: cast as kind of the dick. I wanted to every

745
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: movie kind of play this guy, which you know, I

746
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: don't know you well, but seems to be just essentially.

747
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you are universally beloved. Everyone says you're the

748
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: nicest guy ever. So why like, why do you think

749
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: you're constantly cast as kind of the jerk all the time. Uh,

750
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: that's that's funny. I think that. Um. I think it

751
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: started uh um with step brothers and uh that was

752
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: just a total fluke. Um. I didn't think I had

753
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: any chance of getting the part, so I just sort

754
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: of went in and for it. I think that like

755
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: douche bags and are really funny, like over confident don't

756
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: are really really funny, and I love watching them, like

757
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: in real life. I love seeing someone who's who thinks

758
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: they're amazing and they're I think it's really fun. Um.

759
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I guess you know, like I

760
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: remember as a kid loving William Atherton and I have

761
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: ghostbusters like wow, he's great, Like who's that guy? Uh?

762
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I always just a how's it going?

763
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: Keep quoting all that time. My whole life is quote,

764
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: so I always do the I lathered up with Keels

765
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: in the shower by the way, by the way well,

766
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: or those VHS tapes behind you, or those books. No,

767
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: those are books. Okay, those are books. That's the fan

768
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: of that's the one half of the Nerd Fantasy collection.

769
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: On that scene, I wish they were VHS. I have

770
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: VHS's as a writer, and Danielle know I keep everything,

771
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: so yeah, I've got all that stuff. What was it

772
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: on one episode you guys said that they would give

773
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: you vhs is at the end of the season for

774
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: the families with out hundreds of dollars from three and

775
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: we got six or maybe it was even seven VHS

776
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: tapes that held four episodes per tape. That's crazy and

777
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: we paid for them and uh yeah, we again the

778
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: same that when the show ended, called me two weeks

779
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: later to ask where a black pair of socks was.

780
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah that's what we got. Jesus. You

781
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: touched on it a little bit talking about writers descending

782
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: on you probably during a tape night to change things,

783
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: and you know, do you remember the notes sessions? Do

784
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: you remember? God? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And I

785
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: hadn't remembered that till hearing you guys talk about it,

786
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh my god, of course,

787
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: like after a scene, correct me if I'm wrong. This

788
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: is what I remember after like a scene or after

789
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: a run through of an ever run I guess it

790
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: would be we would all go and find a seat

791
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: and Michael and the writers would give notes publicly in

792
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: front of everyone, scene by scene by Oh my god, yeah, yeah,

793
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: we would. We'd sit in the living room set, so

794
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: we'd all find our places on the couch or like

795
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: little side steps or wherever we could squat and sit.

796
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: And then he would sit in a chair facing us solo,

797
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: with the writers behind him, like it was like creating

798
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: an audience behind him. And then he would sit alone

799
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: in a in a director's chair in the center and

800
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: go page by page and shin us and shred us.

801
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: You just tell us what we were doing wrong? Yeah,

802
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: every every week, twice a week, that normal, Adam, Have

803
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: you not had that on other projects? It seems like

804
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: they didn't do that on there, you know, you know,

805
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: you see that here and there. But you come to realize,

806
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: like I'm sure you guys have, particularly with kids, that's

807
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: not how you're going to, like, you know, get the

808
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: best out of them, right, I'm sure it was terrifying

809
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: for you guys. It was horrifying. It was there was

810
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: a sense like when when writer just described it, and

811
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: I had a visceral memory of the feeling of all

812
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: of us being huddled together on the couch and wherever

813
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: you could, and they're really being a sense of we're

814
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: all in this together, Like yeah, where for guest casts

815
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: that would be not the feeling. Often, like I remember

816
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: watching guest casts fall apart because invariably we you know,

817
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: there would be a run through. We'd all get a

818
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: pass because it went well for us, but because somebody

819
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: came in and you know, did their best, but it

820
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: didn't land where Michael wanted it that person. You know,

821
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: I remember having to have conversations post notes with guest

822
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: cast all the time, like having to be like, it's okay,

823
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: this is totally normal, it's not don't take it personally,

824
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: do it up, because they would just be like, what

825
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: did I do? What? You know? How did I You know?

826
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: It was so I can imagine from your position, Adam,

827
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: like it's even more intimidating than it was for us,

828
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, and you're sitting You're not sitting

829
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: on the couch on the on the living room set,

830
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: you're like on the outskirts, like, yeah, exactly, No, there

831
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: was there was a sense of we're all in this together,

832
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: much like the passengers of the Titanic, right, Um, so

833
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: it was I mean we did we had that. Those

834
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: were and I think you're right, we got used to them,

835
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: and then you get jaded. You know, you're now at

836
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: twenty or twenty one. By the time I was the

837
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: show was ending, it was like, I'm old hat at this,

838
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: and then you start to forget that there's guest cast

839
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: there that are going through this horrible nous. You know,

840
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: I think it's more than than it's old had it's

841
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: Stockholm syndrome. We act actually start to be like this

842
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: looking forward to it, like looking forward to note session

843
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: where we wouldn't get notes and being like, it's an accomplishment.

844
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: I made it through this week. Yeah not yes. That

845
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: became That became the addictions, Like, you know, he did

846
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: something great. I was going to ask did he throw complement?

847
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: Occasionally he would praise it would be and when he did,

848
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god, can you believe what

849
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: I just heard. That's the coolest thing in the world. Yeah,

850
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: it was a little it was a little more. I

851
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: do remember for the first time experiencing that multicam rhythm

852
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: that you have to get and how and not knowing

853
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: the language of it at all, and not knowing how

854
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: to hit those things. But that's where I sort of

855
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: started to learn that the music of how to get

856
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: a laugh in a multicam, it's a real skill and

857
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: a real like talent of its own, where you say

858
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: a line a certain way and the audience just doesn't

859
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: react act then you just hit a particular word and boom,

860
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: they're there. That was terrifying to me too and kind

861
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: of put me off from multi not that I would

862
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: had any opportunity to be in multicamps even if I

863
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: wanted to, but it made me frightened of them for

864
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: for years. Was the kind of high wire act of

865
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: trying to and knowing that, uh, they're all watching and

866
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: they'll take your line away if you don't hit it

867
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: right and stuff. That's something that you guys lived for

868
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: years and years. But I kind of felt a little

869
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: bit being there. I am I love that. I love that.

870
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: That was my That was my favorite part was reading

871
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: the audience, like reading the acause you know. It's the

872
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: way you just said it is is so true. I

873
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: always equate especially Sitcomb to music and when you hit

874
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: that perfect beat and that tuning fork rings, it is

875
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: it is like the dopamine in your brain. It really is.

876
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: It really is. I know it more from theater than

877
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: from from from multi camps because I think the only

878
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: multi camp I've ever done is Boy Meets World? Is

879
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: it really You've never you never did even an episode

880
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: of anything else. I did an episode of a show

881
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: called The Closer Tom Selleck Show, but the scene was

882
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: was cut out and it was just like one scene.

883
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: So Boy Meets World was was it? Um? But but

884
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: you're right that when you have the audience um with you,

885
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: it really is a rush kind of like well we've

886
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: talked about on this show, like you know, when the

887
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: audience does, they're like oh's and oz and the last

888
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: It's almost like you're in a conversation with them, right,

889
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: It's like they're a scene partner. And that's so much

890
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: part of multi camp is this like you're riding this

891
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: wave and then enticing them and then going you know,

892
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: it's like this it's like a call and response almost,

893
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: It's it's weird, and it definitely is. It's a musicality.

894
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: It's almost like a jazz performance or something. It's a

895
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: very bizarre it's a very bizarre form, you know. And

896
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: I think I think that's why it's kind of aged poorly,

897
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 1: is that, you know, kids don't grow up with it anymore,

898
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: so they don't necessary their brain doesn't automatically go into

899
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: it the way that like I think we've you know,

900
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: at the seventies and eighties, children like it was so

901
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: natural to us it made sense. Now it feels kind

902
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: of archaic, right. I think that there's like an oddity

903
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: to the form, which is odd. It's weird form. It

904
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: is weird. It's it's all kind of rooted in uh

905
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: in vaudeville and all of the you know, that's where

906
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: it that's you know, like you watch like I remember

907
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: growing up in my grandma would watch Lawrence Welk Do

908
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: you guys yea and kind of growing up with that

909
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: and looking back on those variety shows, those were all

910
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: from just a time before television kind of leaking into television,

911
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: and multicams are part of that. I really miss seeing

912
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: great multicams. I think they're really fun and when done correctly.

913
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: There's it's it's really great and as a job it's

914
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: kind of perfect because it's the best schedule for an

915
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: actor is amazing. But also the sort of um, the

916
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: sort of old fashioned nature of rehearsing all week for

917
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: the big show on and there's that energy with it,

918
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: and you do you go back and you watch those

919
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 1: Norman Lear kind of shows, the all in the families

920
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: things like that, it's a play. It's a play every

921
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: week that just gets beamed into people's homes and man,

922
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: that needs to come back. It totally tricked me too

923
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: into thinking that acting was easy. Uh, the certain parts

924
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 1: of acting were easy, Like I remember doing single camera

925
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: for the first time, like when I did an episode

926
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: of The Practice and being like, I have to be

927
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: there at five am. What are you talking about? Like

928
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: you know, I was used to like you just get

929
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: your script. You'd barely have to memorize it because then

930
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: you just show up at ten and you walk in.

931
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 1: You all get to rehearse. And but no, like single

932
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: camera or you know, it's the life of an actor

933
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: is pretty rough. You have your trailer, you barely get

934
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: to talk to people before you shoot, and it's like

935
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a very different animal. And

936
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, hitting that wall in my twenties

937
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: and being like, do I even want to do this

938
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: because you know, I had just been completely convinced that

939
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: my camera was acting, and it's like, no, no no, no,

940
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: it's a very specific form of acting that's you know, rare. Yeah,

941
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: it definitely is. It definitely is acting. The skill to

942
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: it that I was never able to to sort of

943
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: pinpoint for myself the skill of it that you guys

944
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: were able to do it a really young age. Which

945
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: is even more impressive is having that intention and the

946
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: emotion and all of that in the kind of in

947
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: the the the multi camps. Getting to inject all of

948
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: that into that form is really hard to cut yourself

949
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: some slack. You were only given three episodes. We are

950
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 1: watching ourselves over the course of many episodes going still

951
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: haven't found it. I haven't found it yet. It's a

952
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: very bizarre form. Is it ever something that you'd want

953
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: to come back and do again? Or is it like no,

954
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: I don't and I'm done with that. No, I I

955
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: think it would be really fun. I was going to

956
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: say I rewatched the first three or four seasons of Cheers,

957
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: So it's it really is perfect because I read that

958
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: Jim Burrow's biography, the autobiography they put out, which is

959
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: really fun, and went back and rewatched Cheers and a

960
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: Bunch of Friends as well, and it really is nothing

961
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: better and more entertaining uh as as an audience member

962
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: than watching those great, great shows. And how fun it

963
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: looked and Cheers particularly, I mean it's essentially one room,

964
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: the amount hundreds of stories going in and out of there.

965
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: It's just a play and have so much fun. And

966
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: the acting Ted Dance and Shelley Long on that Like

967
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: as far as TV acting goes, or acting in general,

968
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: it's it really doesn't get better than that. That's pretty

969
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: close to the perfect television pilot for me, ever been

970
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 1: done before. And it has the best joke, in my opinion,

971
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: in the history of which is they're sitting there and

972
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: the phone rings and Coach picks it up and goes,

973
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: Ernie cheers, hang on, Ernie pantuso, that's you Coach speaking.

974
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: It's just it's so fast, and it's just him, and

975
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: it's perfect and and it's it's it's a perfect joke.

976
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: But also it's the pilot, so they're trying to establish

977
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: these characters in a hurry, and they got that guy

978
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: in one line exactly who the sweet old guy is for.

979
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: You know, as long as you say, it's also so difficult,

980
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: as we found to bring this back to Boyman's world,

981
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: and you did this seamlessly as well. It's difficult to

982
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: lose characters and then have to bring in new characters.

983
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: And that's something that Cheers did as well. Shelley Long

984
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: takes off. They bring in Christiality, who just passed Um

985
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: Coach passed away in real life. They bring in Woody.

986
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: These are these are people, this is these are characters

987
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: that shouldn't work. You've you've got you've established a cast,

988
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: you've established a show, you've established a rhythm. You can't

989
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: bring in you can't get rid of Frank Burns and

990
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: bring in Winchester and still have it work on match.

991
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: That's impossible. We can't lose Harley and bring in somebody

992
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: named Griffin. It's still gonna work. And it's like, wait,

993
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: it works. The acting is there and the writing is there,

994
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: then the audience will buy it because it works. And

995
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: that's why they easily that the reason that the initial

996
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: actor did not work when they just tried to have

997
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: a different Harley is because Harley was already established. You

998
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: can't just bring in someone else, throw the leather jacket

999
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: on him and go, now you're that character. But they

1000
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: bring in Griff and it's like, we're gonna make him cool,

1001
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: but an entirely different way. It's a different it's a

1002
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: confident cool. It's uh, i'm are, I'm you know, it's

1003
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: the Fonzie kind of cool instead of like the kind

1004
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: of cool, tough guy kind of cool. So I also

1005
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 1: think it's interesting, just going back to what you said

1006
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: of I wonder how it would have affected your performance

1007
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: knowing if you knew the story behind kind of Danny

1008
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: leaving and there was a backstory there, and probably not

1009
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: knowing it made it easier to just come in and

1010
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm just going to do the character. Oh I'm sure.

1011
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure. If I knew there was this kind of

1012
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: beloved guy that had had this rough sort of exit

1013
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: and everyone felt uneasy about it, it would have made

1014
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: it ten times harder. Thankfully I didn't know. I do

1015
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: remember my first costume fitting, and again it's like the

1016
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: first real costume fitting i'd had. I remember it was.

1017
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: I was standing there trying on outfits for Michael and

1018
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: like four other producers, and I kept coming in with

1019
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: different outfits and they just it was like a flash

1020
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: dance when she's flipboards. And I remember one person I

1021
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: don't remember her name. I remember she looked at me

1022
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: and just said, I don't know, it's sort of Johnny

1023
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: Depp four years ago. And just thinking that was like

1024
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: such a show biz thing to say, like, Wow, they

1025
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: really say stuff like that in show business. So exciting,

1026
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: My god, oh my gosh. So you got your first

1027
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: Emmy nomination this year for your role as Mark on

1028
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: Several Congratulations, I mean congratulations And what what is doing

1029
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: severance like? And is it better than kissing yasmine bleef? Well,

1030
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: nothing is better than kissing Um. Yeah, it's really it's

1031
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a it's a great, uh, really

1032
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: fun show to put together, really challenging. We're in the

1033
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: middle of shooting right now. Um and I just I

1034
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: love it. I love uh the world. You know. Something

1035
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: that's that's really fun coming back to the show is

1036
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: when season one it was all about sort of world

1037
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: building and and finding the tone of of of of

1038
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: the loom and and everything we're doing and not knowing

1039
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: uh what it was gonna look or feel like. Um,

1040
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: And now having set that tone and coming back to it, um,

1041
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: not having to worry about that part of it, um,

1042
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: and just getting to dive right in is is really fun.

1043
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: It's like you all have the same TV show in

1044
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: your head. That's right, that's right, yeah yeah um uh.

1045
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: And the group of actors is unbelievable obviously. Uh. And

1046
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: and getting to see them every day and work with them,

1047
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: it's just so much fun. Is there one you prefer

1048
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: over the other? I mean, like, you know, doing a film,

1049
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of your with people for a finite amount

1050
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: of time and you get to do something great and

1051
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: walk away. But with television you get to kind of

1052
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,479
Speaker 1: build the camaraderie as a cast, you get to really

1053
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: grow as a character. Is there one that you prefer

1054
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: over the other? I really like uh making TV shows.

1055
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean they're sort of one and the same now

1056
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: more and more. But the thing about making a TV

1057
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: show for me that I like growing up in the

1058
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: eighties and being a eighties movie goer, that's kind of

1059
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: where I sort of learned and what I like. Um,

1060
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: I loved sequels growing up in the eighties, and like,

1061
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: Temple of Doom is my favorite movie, right, and I

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Speaker 1: remember like Police Academy to going to see it on

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Speaker 1: my birthday with all my friends and stuff. So coming

1064
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: back for another season of the show to me just

1065
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: feels like we're making a sequel. Um. And so there's

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01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: like this really kind of fun like getting every getting

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01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: the band back together feeling, and I just love um

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Speaker 1: getting getting to see everybody again and catch up with

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Speaker 1: each other's catching up with each other's lives and uh

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Speaker 1: and finding new angles on on the you know, the story,

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01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: the big story and the characters and everything. It's really

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Speaker 1: really fun. That's cool. You know what with all the

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Speaker 1: unpacking and everything we've talked about in the episode, the

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01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: thing we're going to get the most emails about Temple

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Speaker 1: of Doom is his favorite. You know. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: So my son, whose name is Indie, Yeah, Temple of

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01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: Doom is his favorite. Yeah. I'm like, you know, and

1078
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: it's the one he wants to watch. He wants to

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01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: go back to it more than and I'm like, this

1080
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: is the crazy one. But then I remember as a

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01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: kid it was my favorite too. It's and when you

1082
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: watch it, you're like, there's like five movies before the

1083
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 1: movie even starts. It's like there's a musical number, there's

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01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: there's plain flight, there's a rafting number. It's like, oh

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01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: my god, and you're like, there's like five five sequences

1086
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: before the story even so it's amazing. It's but it's

1087
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: totally it's just all over the place. Yeah, yeah, but

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01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: ah my god, it's the best. It was like, oh

1089
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: my god, what is happening. They've made a movie specifically

1090
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: for me? And I just went back over and over

1091
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: and over again. And the other night we were at

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01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: the Gotham Awards in New York and I learned afterwards

1093
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: that that key Hugh Kwon, who played Short Round, was

1094
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: sitting in the in the table near us to night.

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01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I would have gone and said hello,

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01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: because he you know, Short Round toys every thing to

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01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: me as a kid. It's really nice. He's we did,

1098
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: he's at some of the conventions we do, and he's

1099
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: a very sweet and everything everywhere all at once, and

1100
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: it was incredible. It's one of the most astounding performances.

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01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: You're like, we're this person should have been working every

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01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: day for the last thirty years, and he's so you

1103
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: just can't take your eyes off from the entire movie.

1104
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: He's so good, he's amazing. Well marks the return of

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01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: Party Down. So what can you reveal to fans for

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01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: what they can expect from the gang? Yeah, it comes

1107
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: out somewhat soon. Uh, yeah, it's it's It was really

1108
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: fun because it was like thirteen years later and we're

1109
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: all uh together again. I mean, I think by now

1110
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: it's almost like a almost a cliche because there's so

1111
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: many reboots and stuff, but it really is strange getting

1112
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: everyone back together and it just kind of feeling the same,

1113
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: which is it was just a blast. And uh, you know,

1114
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 1: I think everyone I love it. It's it's very much

1115
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: Party Down. It's very much the same show, which is

1116
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: what what we're hoping for, and uh, and it was

1117
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: it was a blast. I hope we get to do

1118
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: more at some point. Well, I have to ask you,

1119
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: would you like this to be the very last time

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01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: you're asked about Boy Meets World. I feel like you've

1121
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: had such an illustrious career and yet you're always the

1122
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: face of that clickbait article you won't believe who guessed

1123
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: it is true. There's a clear picture. Oh it's always him.

1124
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: You won't believe the stars that we're on boy Meat's

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01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: World and it's Adam's face. A lot of people carry

1126
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: Russell to world. She was my jasmine belief Adam. That's right,

1127
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: that's right, Yeah, that's right. Um and uh, there were

1128
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people, I think Linda Carlin, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1129
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: we had a great we had we had great guest guests. Yeah. No.

1130
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: I I love being asked about it. I think it's

1131
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: a it's a grim really proud to be on the show,

1132
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: and it meants, you know, it's a huge Obviously, I

1133
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: remember everything and that was a huge learning experience and

1134
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 1: so so valuable. And watching my daughter watch it when

1135
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: she was a bit younger is I think it's a

1136
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: great show. I love being asked about it, and and

1137
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: I've loved listening to you guys talk about it and

1138
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: remember it and kind of deal with being grown ups

1139
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 1: looking back. And it's been fascinating listening to you. Well,

1140
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: thank you so much, and thank you for taking time

1141
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: out of your very busy schedule. I know, like you said,

1142
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: you were in the middle of filming Severance, and I

1143
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: so I the fact that you have made time for

1144
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: us means a great deal to us, and so appreciative

1145
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: of you being here. Um, I would just I would

1146
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,959
Speaker 1: just like to say, as you leave, do not hug. Writer.

1147
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I can't wait to give you

1148
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: a giant hug next time I see you, next time

1149
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: we see each other. I'm just gonna it's been great talking.

1150
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm it sounds so ridiculous, but I'm so happy every

1151
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: time you pop on screen. I really thanks man. It

1152
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: makes me so happy to see all your success and

1153
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: it just couldn't happen to a nicer person. It really

1154
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: couldn't appreciate that. Thanks a lot, well continued success with

1155
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: the podcast. I'll be listening. Thank you, so good to

1156
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: see you. Take care bye. Hi Christie, Hey, well, I

1157
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: have some unbelievable news. Oh there's a Kim Possible Rounstoppable

1158
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 1: reunion in the works. No, no, no, that would be great,

1159
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: But no, I have other big news. We just launched

1160
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: the super Awesome contest to become the next big voice actor.

1161
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: That's right, we want to give an amateur voice actor

1162
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: an opportunity to win a one year contract with my

1163
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: voice over agency c S. D They are amazing. I've

1164
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: been with them for over twenty years and that's not all.

1165
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: A trip to l A to meet Will and myself

1166
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: and some amazing prizes as well. Yeah. So, how do

1167
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: people enter the super awesome contest to become the next

1168
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: big Voice actor Christie? Send a two minute or less

1169
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: video or audio file showcasing your best voices. Okay, well

1170
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: it's time do your announcer voice for the rest? Oh yes,

1171
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: no purchase necessary. Submit your entry it I Hear Voices

1172
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: that I Heart radio dot com between January nine and

1173
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: February nine. Entries will be judged. The contest is open

1174
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: to legal residents of the United States who are eighteen

1175
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: and older. Official rules can be found by going to

1176
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: our Instagram page and I Hear Voices podcasts for complete details,

1177
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: listen to I Hear Voices on the I Heart Radio

1178
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Wow, what a

1179
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: dick that guy I met you writer to leave that story.

1180
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: That's so bizarre, so not well, it's not it's so

1181
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: not me. But I have no idea there must have.

1182
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean, either he's just you know, he was just

1183
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: in an insecure moment and like I gave him a look.

1184
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: I might have been joking, but that doesn't really sound

1185
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: like me, Like, I don't know what happened, Like you're

1186
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: a hugger exactly, And I feel like in a situation

1187
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: like that, I would have just been running around hugging everybody,

1188
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: because that's just what I did. Um, So it must

1189
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: have been like a weird misinterpretation of something like maybe

1190
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: I heard something, maybe somebody called to me away and

1191
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: I ran off. And he just was like in this

1192
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: weird moment of like, oh okay, yeah that sucks, it's

1193
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: so funny. Yeah, like I said, I had read that.

1194
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: I had read that article once that was like somebody

1195
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: asked him about boy Meat's world, and I was all

1196
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: excited to see what he had to say, and he

1197
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: was like, well, yeah it was. I felt really uncomfortable there.

1198
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody liked me. Why why did you

1199
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: Why did you feel that way? And he was like, well,

1200
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: I read once on a message board that Danielle told

1201
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: somebody that that nobody liked him, and I was like,

1202
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: it's not true. I wanted to correct it so badly, man.

1203
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: And this is the thing about actors, right, It's like

1204
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 1: this this incredible confidence, right, this ability to be in

1205
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: your control of your body and your voice and to

1206
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: be able to present confidence and then just this crippling insecurity. Right,

1207
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: It's like it's and you you always carry both with

1208
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: you because you know, and I heard it explained once

1209
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: that it's because actors had to make a leap. At

1210
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: one point they were watching a TV show or watching

1211
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: a movie or watching a play and they looked at

1212
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: somebody up there and said I could do that, and

1213
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: they had to make that leap, right, And that's a

1214
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: leap of faith, Like you don't you don't actually know

1215
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: every A lot of people try that and they don't

1216
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: get jobs or you know, they want to be that

1217
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: person and they can't actually do Like you just can't

1218
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: act or you can't you don't have the thing whatever

1219
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: it is, And so all of us have to have

1220
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: made that leap, are constantly wondering is everybody fooling me?

1221
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: Or is this actually at this? You never and it's

1222
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: so amazing that never goes away. It just never goes away,

1223
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: because then it's the next role. Like even if you

1224
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: get super confident, as you know, one TV show or

1225
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: one job, the next one could just go away as

1226
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: just as easily. Well, it's because that's also the nature

1227
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: of our business. The nature of our business is Yeah,

1228
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean I you tell everybody that you don't understand

1229
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: what it's like to be on something like a Boy

1230
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: Meets World like show for seven years where Thursday night

1231
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 1: you're awesome, and you wake up Friday morning and it's done,

1232
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: and that's it, it's over. You're hey, you you know

1233
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: how you're so awesome yesterday when you got start again

1234
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: trying to find the jobs and hitting the pavement and

1235
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: doing everything the whole way. But you're right, it is

1236
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: a leap of faith, much like the leap of faith

1237
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: that Indiana Jones has to take. And clearly the best

1238
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: of those films the last pisade Um. So yes, that's

1239
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna be begetting is the Temple of

1240
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 1: June glad. He also remembered Yasmine Bleaf because I thought

1241
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: maybe all of us had some sort of collective maps,

1242
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: and you know where she where. It's like, maybe she

1243
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: wasn't on the show. Was she in a bathing suit

1244
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 1: on our show? Like was she was in a like

1245
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: a big sparkly sequin dress. She spoke to his like

1246
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: ringside date. I thought she was like the ring girl

1247
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: or something like. Okay, and then and then Robert Gulay

1248
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: gets up, it's just the sings right bonkers cast. That's

1249
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: gonna be an episode. We should probably dedicate two episodes

1250
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: that are pod to just that episode, because we're not

1251
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: far away from it. We're gonna get to it really soon.

1252
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: So okay, it is in second season? Really we already? Yeah?

1253
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I just remember watching when we did the

1254
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: DVD commentary, and there's like an entire scene where I

1255
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: am clearly just not even aware that I'm on camera.

1256
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there like zoning out, watching the scene

1257
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: unfold in the ring And I remember looking at myself going,

1258
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,879
Speaker 1: I am so I am just overwhere I'm not present.

1259
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: I am like sitting there going, what is happening to

1260
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: our TV show? You can see it on my face?

1261
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: Oh that's uh yeah. And we'll get into the whole

1262
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: thing with Vader. Just what a man he was. He

1263
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 1: was such a good guy. Anyway, we'll get it all that.

1264
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: What what the with the success? Though? I meant this

1265
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: when I said this, that could not have happened to

1266
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: a better person than Adams and he's earned everything he's

1267
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: gotten and has just been so magnanimous with everything he does,

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Speaker 1: and it's just it does. He makes me smile. Every

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Speaker 1: time I see him in something. It makes me happy,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm so happy for him. I really am.

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Speaker 1: He's the greatest. Well, I'm really I'm I was so

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Speaker 1: excited when he agreed to do the show and he's

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Speaker 1: been listening. Isn't that cool? That's awesome. It's cool. That's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. Well, anyway, thank you guys for joining us

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Speaker 1: for this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you

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Speaker 1: can follow us on Instagram pod Meets World Show. You

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com, tell us all about Temple of Doom,

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Speaker 1: and as always, we have Merchu pod meets World show

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Speaker 1: dot com. Thank you guys for joining us and we'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time. We love you all, pod dismissed.

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Speaker 1: Pod Meets World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted

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Speaker 1: by Daniel Fishel Wilfernell and Wryder Strong. Executive producers Jensen

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Speaker 1: Carp and Amy Sugarman. Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo,

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Speaker 1: Producer and editor Tara suit Box producer, Jackie Rodriguez, engineer

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Speaker 1: and Boy Meets World super fan Easton Allen. Our theme

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Speaker 1: song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. You can follow

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Speaker 1: us on Instagram at pod Meats World Show or send

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Speaker 1: us an email at pod Meats World Show at gmail

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