1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcasts. Be sure 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: to check us out live every weekday from four to 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern on Fox 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us every 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Let's get this, punnies, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Fine our our number three couple, jovin Washington great showed 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: us far Martin Weiss and for Rob. Rob will be 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: back tomorrow and join some cold weather out there in 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: the East Coast. He's been speaking to kids with Syracuse 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: somewhere else I forgot off the top of my head 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: as well, but he's been having a great time, so 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: he should be back as long as he can, obviously 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: get his travels situated. 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: That's what the days going and. 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Cold and all that going on out there on the East. 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: So all the best of you out there bracing that. 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: I can't lie. 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: If you're looking at us on YouTube, you see I 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: got a T shirt on on his eighty three four 22 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: degrees to day. It's been incredible weather out near their 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: conditioning's on it here. 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: It is very brisk, I can't lie on that. 25 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Uran whitesmining NBA reporter, author of a Hollywood ending the 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: dreams and drama of the lebron Lakers, will have him 27 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: on here coming up in just a little bit last 28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: call as well, so seeing. 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: Him are related somewhere down the line, I said, would listen, 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: get on what is it? Ancestry? Was that still the thing? 31 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: Twenty three and meter? 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: And although well, then one of them get fouled for 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: a lawsuit or bankruptcy or something. 34 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: Something happened to one of them back when whoever was. 35 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: Named twice stopped being also having like first names like 36 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 4: Uron and my family. I wonder where that split was. 37 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: I bet you know, you know you never know? Small world. 38 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: Hey. 39 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: With iHeart Radio app, by the way, you can stream 40 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: us wherever you happen to be. You can catch us 41 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: and all of our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty 42 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: four seven in the new and improved iHeart Radio app. 43 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: Just search Fox Sports Radio when you have to stream 44 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: us live all day every day, and be sure to 45 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets in 46 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: the iHeart app so it'll always pop up at the 47 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: of your screen. Let's get to this, Rob g I 48 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier. Last time, we're talking about Nick Sirianni 49 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: and A. J. 50 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: Brown. 51 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: There's still some football conversation. I know NBA is knee 52 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: deep and closing out the season. It's some football. Kyler 53 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: Murray missed a lot of the season for the Cardinals 54 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: and now there's questions of is he the guy moving forward? 55 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: And the coach and the GM have had some conversations 56 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: about it. 57 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, big facts. 58 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 5: Speaking of knee deep, the odd mob is knee deep 59 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 5: in the Monty Simp location right now. 60 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: We are twenty two thousand, like we're gonna read them 61 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: later on the show. 62 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 5: If you want to, you know, get your shot off 63 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 5: at MONTI send it in right now. 64 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 6: Listen. 65 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 4: Sure you know what how about we just put on 66 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: Saturday eight to eleven Eastern, you know, you know, instead 67 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: of getting Manci in two minute segments, you get a 68 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: whole fifteen at a time. 69 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: B is it on YouTube? Elijah like. 70 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: Camera on us listen, just saying that they want their 71 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: visual too, So listen, make sure you listen, enjoy the 72 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: show on Saturday. 73 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: But I know they want them visuals right now. And 74 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 3: he loves you. Look at her blessing over there A 75 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: all right? Let's get to it. Let's get back to it. 76 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 5: Yes, football, Kyler Murray, of course, has had a tumultuous run. 77 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 5: I would say with the Arizona cargos started off pretty hot. 78 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 5: He's had some really high highs, but some incredibly low lows, 79 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 5: probably the lowest point being the infamous call of duty 80 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 5: clause in his contract. You know that that might have 81 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 5: been peak cinema right there in the world of football. 82 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 5: But JaMarcus Russell level is right there is right there. 83 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 5: They're on part of the right eye. 84 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: But last make it quip making height jokes, bro, you 85 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: know that you're not slip a right all right? 86 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 5: So their GM said earlier this week at the Combine 87 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 5: that he and Kyler Murray have spoken. They talked about 88 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 5: how last season unfolded, what the planet moving forward, claimed 89 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 5: that they are both on the same page. However, a 90 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 5: source close to Kyler told ESPN that is not true, 91 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: that we have not talked at all since the season ended, 92 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 5: and in fact, it leads to further speculation that this 93 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 5: whole thing is just the ruse and Kyler Murray will 94 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 5: be out of Arizona with the quickness. 95 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: Martin, you can go ahead, yeah, do you your thoughts 96 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: on this. 97 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray was out of Arizona because let me tell 98 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 4: you something. Let me let you in behind the curtain. 99 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 4: Somebody's I never played again, But I've paid a lot 100 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: of attention to this game over the last twenty years. 101 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: Don't you gonna say you played a lot of Madden. 102 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: No, but if a starting quarterback is healthy, he is 103 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 4: going to play, period stop. The moment Kyler Murray was 104 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 4: off of venged reserve and it's a wait a minute, 105 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 4: my foot is healthy. Wait a minute, my foot still hurts. 106 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 4: It was wait a minute. His career in Arizona is over. 107 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 4: He will never take another snap as a member of 108 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals, period stop. They will, especially in today's 109 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 4: NFL where you where like Sean Payton made it okay 110 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: to eat that money to get out of here. It's 111 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 4: over for Kyler Murray in Arizona. And it was over 112 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 4: the moment Jakoby Brissett got Week eleven, twelve, thirteen, whatever 113 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: week it was when he got that start. Once Kyler 114 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 4: was cleared, it was over with period stop, new regime. 115 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: Even more over, here's my thing. 116 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: I think it is over for Kyler Murray and I 117 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: think Jacoby bridget is what I'm calling him, because I 118 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: think he's going to be the bridge guy, the gap 119 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: guy until they find their guy. I think he's thirty 120 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: three years old right now. Had a nice season for them, 121 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: had them in games that you probably be like, well, 122 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: how they still competitive in this game? And also offensively, 123 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: they were moving the ball much better with Jacoby Bridgett 124 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: is what I'm calling them, because they went up about 125 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: fifty to sixty yards per game and a whole five 126 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: to six points per game with Jacoby Brissette. The offensive 127 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: look crisp. They were getting the guy at the ball 128 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: to their weapons. And again they're not a great team, 129 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: so they ended up losing some games, but they were 130 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: right there in some of these games. 131 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: They had a chance to win a few. 132 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: And to me, when you start to have issues with 133 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback, when I have to question, is he 134 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: studying the playbook when he already has a seemingly disposition 135 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: that might not be your typical what you want from 136 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback. Not to mention he's undersize hasn't been 137 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: incredibly accurate. And I'm hanging on to what was meaning 138 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: those couple that you know a year and a half 139 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: he had two three years ago. I'm hanging on to 140 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: that hopefully gets back to that. I think the writing 141 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: is on the wall, and I think they're going to 142 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: try to find a suitor and a team like a 143 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: Minnesota the Vikings, who will say, you know what, I'm 144 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell. 145 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: It ain't working out with JJ. 146 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: And not that we necessarily throw the tale in as 147 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: if he's done, he's very very young. But if we 148 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: can go ahead and get a Kyler Murray with all 149 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: these weapons we have on both sides of the balls, 150 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: so have an incredible defense, still have weapons, we know 151 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: that with Jefferson and Addison and so on and so forth, 152 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: And I can go get a Kyler Murray and I 153 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: can train. 154 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: Him up the right way. Man, we might be explosive. 155 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: We might be able to do some things. 156 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: I think coaches and teams who believe we've got the 157 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: right recipe for a guy that has talent. 158 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 3: Can he be Caleb Wilson, Caleb Williams Light? 159 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: Can he be cayleb You know he ain't that, but 160 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: can he be a b version of that might help 161 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: us because the reason, listen, there aren't thirty two starting 162 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL, someone's gonna need a quarterback. And 163 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: if you are to me the Cardinals, you just want 164 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: to start moving in a different direction. And again that's 165 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: why Jacoby Brissett might have to be our bridge at 166 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: and bridge us till we find our guy of the 167 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: future moving forward. And I'm gonna just try to move on. 168 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: It's just been too rocky. They're never on the same page. 169 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: There's always seems to be some beef between Kyler Murray 170 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: and them. Again, he's not necessarily the guy that's excitable 171 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: or exciting your as a franchise leader. There seems to 172 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: always be something again, And if I have to question 173 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: if he's locked and loaded my quarterback. If there's one 174 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: person I don't want to be questioning, is locked into 175 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: the playbook, is locked in the leadership, is locked into 176 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: being the best version of himself. 177 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: It's my quarterback. You know, I'm not throwing away anything 178 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: that you just said. But I also don't care that 179 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: much about it. Like if you told me that Josh 180 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 4: Allen didn't let study his playbooks, Like all right, well, 181 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: I don't care like our Mahomes did. Like Mahomes from 182 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: Year three, I think a clip on the Pivot podcast 183 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: he has a Super Bowl MVP. 184 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: It's like I'm just now learning how to read defenses. 185 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 4: Like some of this I don't care about, Like you 186 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: can tell me that Kyler Murray stays to play video 187 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: games till seven o'clock in the morning. It doesn't happen 188 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: on the field, Like it doesn't happen on the field. 189 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: Like the reputation of Kyler Murray is much greater than 190 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: any of the output that we have seen. And I 191 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 4: have fallen for more times than I care to admit, 192 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: because it's just like probably the first time I'm not 193 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: just like I picked the Cardinals to win the West 194 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 4: a lot, and everybody has won it since them, Right, Seahawks, 195 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: forty nine Ers, and the Rams have all won going 196 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: to one NFC Championship games in Kyler Murray's tenure as 197 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: an Arizona Cardinal. 198 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: Right. 199 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: So, but Kyler Murray is very much like Trey Young 200 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 4: in that they're both short and I'm just kidding, but no, 201 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 4: in that their skills, their skill set is very unique 202 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: and explosive. However, you've gotten to build the whole thing 203 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: around them, and what you find when you build the 204 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 4: whole thing around them is that explosive skill set. It's 205 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: not enough pistons firing to run a hole engine. It's 206 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: just not it's it's it's two cylinders and we need six. 207 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 3: But this is. 208 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: Why when you say you know the study and the care, 209 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: I say it matters to me, because when you are 210 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: locked in, you may find other ways, and the best 211 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: of the best can find other ways. Meaning for color 212 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: Merv it is just scrambled scrambling, then't making a deep throw. 213 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: Or if a scrambles scrambling, then he just runs forty 214 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: five yards a grade and eight. But you might say, man, 215 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: I can slice and dice this team. You know what, 216 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: switch it up. We're just gonna slice some of death 217 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: by a thousand paper cuts and grant. We're gonna go 218 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: full Patriots on them, slant slam. Oh this game, you 219 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna have fifteen attempts. Excuse me and 220 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: be okay with that. We're just gonna run the mess 221 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: of the ball because I'm seeing how they're doing this 222 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: and they're bringing the guys down the box. My point 223 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: is you're able to do that when you're locked int. 224 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: An example from another guy, shorter, smaller, strong, arm like 225 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Kyler athletic like him. The best version of Michael Vick 226 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: was when he admitted, Lee, you spend time around him, 227 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: I know I locked into the playbook. Sure, I spent 228 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: my whole life being faster than everybody, more athletic, more gifted, 229 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: So I really have to lock in. I'm at the clubs, 230 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: I'm hanging out in Atlanta. I'm the hottest dude in 231 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: the game. And when he finally got with McNabb and 232 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, they showed him professionalism and locking in. He's like, oh, 233 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: and what happened MVP candidate, comeback player the year. We're like, man, 234 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: if I got that version of Michael Vick for you know, 235 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: a decade, he might be top three four quarterbacks ever. 236 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: But the problem with both Trey Young and Kyler Murray 237 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: is the deficiencies are too great. If Mike Vick was 238 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 4: five six, he would have ever got I shouldn't say 239 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: five six, you. 240 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 3: Mike Vick was five nine the short shaming. If Mike 241 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: Vick was five nine to five to ten. 242 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: He would have never got a second chance, Like you 243 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like he would have never like 244 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 4: Mike Vick was the prototypical like make six foot, I'm 245 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 4: and again. 246 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: Stop back at six they yelling everybody else who's six foot? 247 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: I'm not saying what six two one up? 248 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: And Mike Vick was one of the if not the 249 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 4: best athlete at quarterback we have ever seen. Right, short conversation, 250 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: his first name out the mouth, Lamar Jackson, love Josh 251 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: Allen up there with him. But like still like when 252 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 4: you're looking at that type of talent, like those guys 253 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 4: could have played other positions, right, Like, I'm not suggesting 254 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: that they should, but if you wanted to put Josh 255 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 4: Allen a tight end of Lamar Jackson at wide receiver 256 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: or cornerback or uh no, I'm forgetting who I said 257 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 4: the first line, but Josh, if you wanted to put 258 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 4: these guys in different spots, you could have the only 259 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 4: thing that Kyler could play his quarterback, and that's with 260 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: incredible athleticism. I'll spend it to you like this, because 261 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 4: you said Mike Vick, I will go to another guy. 262 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 3: We just talked about him. I think that Jalen Hurs 263 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 3: is pretty locked in his playbook and it don't matter. 264 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: He's still not going to a third of the field 265 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: because he's too short to do it. Kyler A. Murray 266 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: can be is locked. He could be calling the plays. 267 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 3: It don't matter. 268 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison is not a weapon over in the middle 269 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: of the field because he literally just physically can't see it. 270 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: Trey McBride not the weapon that he could be because 271 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 4: you can't see it. You sub at Jacoby Brissette, who 272 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 4: to me is worse at Kyler has physically worse than 273 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray at everything. Kyler got a better on Kyler, 274 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: faster Kyle, you know. But Jacoby Versett is just six 275 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: to two and can look over the line of scrip. 276 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: And also, I'll add a professional who understands what's required 277 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: to him. And again he understands I'm not one of 278 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks, but I can professionally do this job. 279 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: And he's always gonna have a job. He's gonna be 280 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: that guy we're gonna look up. He's forty years old, 281 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: still backing up making five six million dollars a year 282 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: because he understands the role. 283 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 4: I remember his first start Thursday Night Football with the 284 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 4: Patriot Patriots the Flakegate. Brady was down in the four 285 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: games and Garoppolo got hurt after going two and one 286 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 4: in Jacoby Brissett. He had a nice MC state. Yeah, 287 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 4: started on Thursday Night football. 288 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: And look at him. Still can't stress. Question on the 289 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: final Jeopard that game to what team was? Ten years 290 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: twelve years later he's still in the league, all right? 291 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: On the way eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox 292 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: you can jump in on this is Kyler Murray worth it? 293 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: Do you want to keep him? 294 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: Do you want to see if he can run it 295 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: back and get back to what he used to be? 296 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: Or do you feel like Jacoby persecond, hold it down 297 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: for a year or two till you get your guy 298 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, Martin and I 299 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: will take a couple of calls on this. 300 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 3: Don't forget. 301 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: We got Iran Weizman joining us as well as The 302 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: Odd Couple on a worship Wednesday. 303 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: Stick with you boys, Fox Sports Radio. 304 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 305 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 306 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 307 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 308 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 7: Hey Is Covino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio Now, 309 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 7: in addition to hearing us live weekdays from five to 310 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 7: seven pm Eastern two to four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 311 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 7: We're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for 312 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 7: the show. 313 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: Yup. 314 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 7: That's right, you can now watch Covino and Rich live 315 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 7: on YouTube every day. 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Simulcast 325 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: and shout out to a yes, right, do it. 326 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: We're there. 327 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: Of course Elijah is taking care of us. Odd couple FSR. 328 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: That's all you got to search right there in the YouTube. 329 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: You can like, subscribe, share, comment, Rob g Any comments worthwhile, check. 330 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 5: Outzis Monzi stuff. I'm gonna find them. I got I 331 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 5: got one couple of well. 332 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: You got Carpal tunnel. You gotta scroll by all the 333 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: hot manti dis I'm a guy, said the ponytail Manzi. 334 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: She's single. Oh man, I love this. 335 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: No that there was one that said that, uh, your 336 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: hair's funky. I want to get her that off. 337 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 5: Oh yes, because he wasn't using washed hair on it, 338 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 5: didn't know, he didn't know, he didn't freak him out. 339 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 5: Next day he's like, they don't wash hair in Magic City. 340 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 5: Apparently that's that's the illusion that he's giving us, because 341 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 5: he was so taken aback a house and. 342 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: Then the next day he goes, I mean everybody's blown away. 343 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: Manzi is Manzi. I'm like, Rob, what are we doing here? Welcome, 344 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: Welcome to the mail never grab say he did. First 345 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: he said he liked my hair funky, which is just up. 346 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: And then he was like, what's the big deal? Goes crazy. 347 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: I was like, dang not, but I do got some. 348 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: I got some. 349 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: Thed the youtubeians what the YouTube beans talking about skipping 350 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 5: past the Manzi stuff. Of course, yes, all of them 351 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 5: are probably boss Enjoyer, says Kelvin. 352 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: Looks like rich Paul on Balco. 353 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get there on the money too. That's 354 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: Thebacco part was that was the good pool Abacco part. 355 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean, what was his name again? Victor Victor Conte. 356 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: So I read the book. You appreciate this. Martin read 357 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: the book, was like, wow, okay, it was enlightening. 358 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: Wow. 359 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: The very next week, I'm in Vegas, I want to say, 360 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: with Sean Porter and Adrian Browner fight and I'm like 361 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: two feet away from Victor Hunty and I'm like, I 362 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: do I say, hey, I read the book, and I 363 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: talk like is he is he in a enigma? 364 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 6: Like? 365 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: Am I supposed to stay away by your work? Yeah? 366 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is crazy. 367 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: But I literally ran into him and everybody was chopping 368 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: up with him a steroids of bag because the way 369 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: he was getting loved from everybody was all steroids of 370 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: back pe d. 371 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: G over here. 372 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: That's run new nickname for rob G. What's wrong with that? 373 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 4: You just well, they just said they're lowering the price 374 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 4: on we go V. 375 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: I was gonna share with you the other medication. Now 376 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: you don't getting that robo over here? Now me, Kelvin Alex, Wait, 377 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: how I get in there? The one you want? The 378 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: other one? I'm prideful. I'm you said the other, not 379 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: not the not the WEDV, the other other. Yeah I did. 380 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 5: He said he want that name brand stuff. You don't 381 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 5: talk about that, Okay, I can't lie. Ain't getting none 382 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 5: of that. 383 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: You're right, I'm still my prime. 384 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 8: No, you ain't still my prime. You don't let you 385 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 8: don't feel that way right now, I'm still I'm still 386 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 8: in my prime. And I'm like Alex Rodriguez, like I'm 387 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 8: trying to look to you, well, well, how can this thing? 388 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 8: Oh I feel you I'm uh, you know, south to 389 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 8: a rod. 390 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm already worth two fifty on them, 391 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: but I could be three fifty. 392 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: Got quick second contract with no performance Nation drugs. You 393 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 4: see how flong I can make this thing run. 394 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, so I feel about it, ain't we 395 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: ain't got five for no reason? 396 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: Me and Rob j between us the key to a 397 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 3: weekday show, Martin. That's what it is. It's a couple 398 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: of shots and some pills. That's the five that all right, 399 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: we we we run away from the grind, you know 400 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 3: what I mean? 401 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, well that might lead you to it. That 402 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: might lead you to the grind. All right, Speaking of grind, 403 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: let's get let's get a call of two real quick. 404 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: We talked about Kyler Murray Cardinals. 405 00:17:59,320 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: What do they do? 406 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: They can move forward with him, just say that was 407 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: a bad couple of years. We can get back to 408 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: the best version of him, or you move on. Eight seven, 409 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: seven ninety nine on Fox will Take called Who We Got? 410 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: Who Do We Have? 411 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: Jordan in DC, you are on with the Odd Couple 412 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: on a worship Wednesday. 413 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: What's up Jordan? 414 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 9: Oh hey, Kevin Martin, how you guys doing doing well? 415 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 3: Man? How about yourself? 416 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: I'm doing good. 417 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 9: I'm doing good. But with with the topic of Kyler, 418 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 9: I think you got to move on because I think 419 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 9: his with his athleticism and how dynamic he can be, 420 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 9: I think he'll always be the ultimate like quarterback tease, 421 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 9: like like your stay on the hook with him forever. 422 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 9: It's like a it's like you know, so it's like 423 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 9: a partner who one night they it's like the sweetest 424 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 9: person on nerves, and the next night that this and 425 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 9: it's like you just got to cut your losses. 426 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: You know. 427 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 9: To me, he'll always be just good enough to get 428 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 9: you out of a range of being able to get 429 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 9: a great future quarterback. You know, he's not He's not Lamar, 430 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 9: you know, he's not josh Alla. Let's let's throw those 431 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 9: hopes away. 432 00:18:58,800 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: You know. 433 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: Jordan said, it time to go, baby. You know what 434 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We're not gonna keep doing this back and forth. 435 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for the memories. Yeah, it's time for you. I'm 436 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: moving on, all right, Jordan, appreciate it all right. Like 437 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: I mentioned, your Ron Wiseman gonna join us in the 438 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: moment right now, Mancilanos is gonna get you set on 439 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: what is shrendy. 440 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 441 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 442 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 443 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: listen live. 444 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: Kelvin Washington, Martin Weiss on a worship Wednesday. We are 445 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: joined now by your own Weisman, NBA reporter, author of 446 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: a Hollywood ending, the dreams and drama of the Lebron Lakers, 447 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: and your Ron. Did we get some drama last night? 448 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: Lebron Lucas said, no, you shooting? Lebron said, I don't 449 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: want to shoot. You should have shot it. No, you 450 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: should have shot it because they said give me the ball. 451 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: All that happened, your own thanks for joining. 452 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 6: My pleasure guy. That was a fun up there. I 453 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 6: agree with you. By the way, HPS thing, there's no 454 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 6: way that's allowed. So that's pretty funny. 455 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: Well but listen, you know what, man, it might not 456 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: be allowed, but dang it to. To Monti's point, if 457 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: stuff starts not there's not any repercussions to what isn't allowed. 458 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Why not If Steve Bahmer is over here doing stuff 459 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: and Kawhi is getting extra money, why not give a 460 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: million dollars to McClung again. All right, let's jump into 461 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: what I was talking about there with the Lakers. Just 462 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: your thought, the perfect apropos with the title of your book, 463 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: The Dreams and Drama of the Lebron Lakers, the drama 464 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: last night? 465 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: Would you make of it? 466 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 6: It's just like, I don't know, you want to call 467 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 6: it the final shot, maybe the final chapter. It's just 468 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 6: another chapter in the strange season for them. One the 469 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 6: team just steals off. And I mean everyone knew I 470 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 6: should stay everyone. I think most people who uh you know, 471 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 6: most smart basketball observers figured this year was not gonna 472 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 6: be the Lakers the year like there was no way 473 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 6: there're gonna be a good defense. If your three best 474 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 6: players of Lebron reeves and Luca right as a just 475 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 6: create below average defenders and if the guy you're looking 476 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 6: to protect them in the middle of DeAndre Aiden, that's 477 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 6: not going to do it. The offense. I think a 478 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 6: lot of people I felt included so would click more. 479 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 6: And it's just been still see it in Dagnant and 480 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 6: they don't mesh well, they're not playing off each other. 481 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 6: They're boring, like I find the lit which is a 482 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 6: wild thing to say. I've got a team with those 483 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 6: three guys, but like they're boring to watch, they're going 484 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 6: to follow And you see last night with sort of 485 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 6: a culmination of Luca, you just seems miserable and off 486 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 6: I don't know. That's not like I'm not reporting that. 487 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 6: No one's told me that. I just you're watching it. 488 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 6: He doesn't seem so happy. And even the comments afterwards, 489 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 6: what that he was saying he read it, I don't 490 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 6: even know what he say. Do you guys remember what 491 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 6: he said? And it basically he was saying he thought 492 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 6: he had a look for Lebron. Even that makes no sense. 493 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 6: The play was clearly drawn up for him. This was 494 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 6: a weird ending there, and I just think I'm curious, 495 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 6: what's gonna happen. They basically have one more We're gonna 496 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 6: see what happens. They've they've punted this year, which I 497 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 6: guess is an interesting choice because you're blowing another year 498 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 6: of a Luca prime. They're going to try to remake 499 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 6: the team around him this summer, whether it includes Lebron 500 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 6: or not, is a step of conversation. But like I think, 501 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 6: next year he's gonna be on the clock. 502 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: So to your point, Lucas saying he was open, so 503 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: I passed him the ball clay was clearly drawn up 504 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 4: up for Luca, and then Lebron saying like, oh, Luca 505 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 4: was off balance. I don't know if he passed it 506 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 4: to me and I was off balance. Uh. It goes 507 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 4: back to the first thing that I remember about the book, 508 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 4: the Hollywood ending, which I'm sure is the way a 509 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 4: lot of people came into contact with. And I'm sitting 510 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 4: there scrolling social media, and all of a sudden, I 511 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: see Will Smith's come name Papula, and so I bring 512 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 4: that up. And you can talk about the Will Smith thing. 513 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 4: I'll as you tell the story, you wrote it, you 514 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 4: can tell it better than I can. But Uh, that 515 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: to me illustrated Lebron runs this thing. So last night 516 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: to me felt like the first step of the refiling 517 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: the papers for the Hollywood divorce, especially when you consider 518 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 4: the postgame comments to what's your point where you may 519 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: not even remember what they exactly were, but you know 520 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 4: they weren't. 521 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: We're going to go back and watch the film and 522 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: get better here. 523 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, actually, well I'll I agree, I'll push that little. 524 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 6: I actually think like it's not the Vard trip will 525 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 6: fall the second they got Luca, really and honestly you earlier, 526 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 6: so it's kind of been forgotten. But when they hired 527 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 6: Jju Reddick to be their head coach, this is for 528 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 6: they get Luca, right, They hired jj Reight to be 529 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 6: their coach, And if anyone goes back and watched that 530 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 6: press conference, it's really interesting to watch because it is 531 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 6: them talking about them, meaning Rob Polinka and Jji Reddick. 532 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 6: Ropeolink is talk about we hired j Redick cause we 533 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 6: want to build a program. We're emphasizing player development. He 534 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 6: mentioned something like they're going to build a player development app, 535 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 6: which I guess I always want to follow up and 536 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 6: see what happened with that. Do nothing and just I 537 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 6: think I wrote the book, it sounded like Yoko is 538 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 6: almost to be sun. They're not the Lakers who are 539 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 6: all about no chack stars. We build two free agency 540 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 6: things like that, and that to me signaled like, hey, Lebron, 541 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 6: you can still stay here, but we're we're moving on, 542 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 6: we're moving past, and this is going to be a 543 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 6: new sky, a new system here where basically JJ Redick 544 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 6: and his player developed his player development program is going 545 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 6: to be what we're built around. Then Luca falls into 546 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 6: their lap, right, which is something they couldn't have foreseen 547 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 6: and no one foresaw, and that changed the equation a 548 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 6: bit for them, and it's like, oh, we're back to uh, 549 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 6: we're back to start chasing, We're back to big fish 550 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 6: hunting and all that stuff. And when Luca comes then 551 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 6: they can finally say, like, you know, it's the Luca Lakers, 552 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 6: not the Lebron Lakers. And again, Lebron, you're welcome to stay, 553 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 6: but we are no longer cow telling to you and 554 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 6: you no longer run the things. And that became obvious 555 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 6: this summer when he was a free or he had 556 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 6: a playoffs, he was up for an extension and they 557 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 6: didn't offer him one, right, And that is very telling. 558 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: Your own weisman, NBA reporter, author of a Hollywood ending, 559 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: the dreams and drama of the Lebron Lakers. I want 560 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: to go to somebody we haven't brought up. But he 561 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: was having the season, is having the season of his career, 562 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: would have been an All Star if not injured. 563 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 3: That is Austin Reeves. 564 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: If we know this is the ending for Lebron in 565 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: the beginning, if you will, if the Luca full On era, 566 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: where's Austin Reeves fitting all of this? Is he the 567 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: that's just our number two guy and we can move 568 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: forward these two? Is he a great training piece? Where 569 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: do you make of Austin Reeds in this? 570 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 6: So I think the play and like, I don't know, 571 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 6: I would be surprised if he's not a Laker. He's 572 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 6: a he's a free agent this year this summer, and 573 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 6: he'll have uh and he'll have shooters playing too. He's 574 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 6: really good, right, I'm getting I think you're gonna hear 575 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 6: a lot about how the one the Lucas best year 576 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 6: when they made the finals came with him and Kyrie, right, 577 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 6: and this is going to be like the equivalent of 578 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 6: another guy who can play off. So that is and 579 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 6: and also reeves loves being in Lahn to look over 580 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 6: the great relationship and you know JJ Redick and also 581 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 6: means have a great relationship. All that stuff. I do 582 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 6: think it's a fair question whether in this new salary 583 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 6: caps CBA world, where basically it's a hard cap, whether 584 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 6: if Lucas Dodge is your best player, is it worth 585 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 6: if you want to vote the resources of another MAX 586 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 6: contract to another player who's not a good defender. 587 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: Right. 588 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 6: I think that's a fair conversation to have. All that 589 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 6: being said, Uh, it doesn't mean you let like you 590 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 6: don't want to lose off some reason either, you think 591 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 6: of it as an asset like that'd be silly. Just 592 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 6: let him walk. So I'd be stunned if he's not 593 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 6: back to the Lakers next year. 594 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 4: Now, the book you wrote before the Hollywood ending, the 595 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 4: Lebron Lakers book, Tanking to the Top, has been relevant 596 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: conversation over the last few last few weeks to me, 597 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 4: now like you wrote the book on it. 598 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 3: Quite literally, I just watched on TV. 599 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 4: But I'll say, to me, all of the different solutions 600 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 4: that have been proposed by the League office ignore the 601 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 4: biggest issue, and to me is that there are not 602 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 4: enough avenues outside of the draft to improve your team. 603 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 4: Like especially, it's even harder now than it was when 604 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 4: you wrote the book because I got the second Apron 605 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 4: and all these different more things that kind of make 606 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 4: player movement more difficult. What do you think about the 607 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: new things that Adam Silver is proposing for tanking? 608 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: Do you think any of them will work? 609 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: And do you think they address Do you think I'm 610 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 4: wrong first of all that is the root issue. 611 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: Or not or just your thoughts on the idea. 612 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 6: No, it's not, I think to your point even further, 613 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 6: it's that And it's the nature of basketball where one 614 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 6: player controls so much, right, and you need one of 615 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 6: these all time players based historically you know, an outlier, 616 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 6: you're there, but you need one of those guys to 617 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 6: win a title, right, a contender for a title. 618 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 4: Right. 619 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 6: And that's this thing that's a that's a trait, character, 620 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 6: characteristic that's unique to basketball, right, not other sports. The 621 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 6: closest thing would be a quarterback in football. But you can, 622 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 6: you know, with a good defense or whatever, you can 623 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 6: make up for from what the uh? I don't know 624 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 6: about these solutions, Like someone I was talking to somebody 625 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 6: with a team today and they praise it to me, 626 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 6: Like they said, the NBA always seems to think that 627 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 6: when they proposed something, teams are going to react to it, 628 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 6: that the proposed idea is going to cause teams to 629 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 6: react in the way the NBA expects them to or 630 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 6: wants them to. I should say, right, meaning like you 631 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 6: put in the play and you expect teams to go 632 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 6: to chase it and it turns out, you know what, 633 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 6: you hear the play in. But I kind of rather 634 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 6: be take a fifty shot and number one pick then, 635 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 6: you know, get my butt smacked in the nine to 636 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 6: ten game to play it right right and on national 637 00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 6: TV U. 638 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 639 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 6: I'm concerned that they're gonna end up something more complicated 640 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 6: that's hard to follow, which I think is always a mistake. 641 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 6: Sort of the playing tournament, which could be fun, not 642 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 6: the plan. Excuse me, the NT tournament where like everyone, 643 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 6: no one really knows what the hell's going on until 644 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 6: it becomes like a regular schedule, right, no one knows 645 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 6: who's in, who's ol, Like, what what is it is? 646 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 6: A playing night, is it not? I mean to me, 647 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 6: the answer is short. In the schedule, they said they're 648 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 6: not going to do that. I think it's I just 649 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 6: think that's the one thing that touches if you've list 650 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 6: off all the issues. I don't always like saying on 651 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 6: the problems the NBA has. I do still love the product. 652 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 6: I think it's a great sport in a great league. 653 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 9: But there are issues. 654 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 6: And if you mentioned the biggest one, that's player of artispation, 655 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 6: player health, thanking. You know, regular season is not feeling 656 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 6: like it has any ooms. If you put those all 657 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 6: on a circle, shortening the schedule is the only one 658 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 6: that sort of touches all of them, right, And I 659 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 6: just think i'd like to see that conversation had more. 660 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 6: What is the actual mass of the money will be 661 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: given back? And I'm sure people wouldn't be willing to 662 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 6: sacrifice that for a greater long term good. 663 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I tell you that's something that and 664 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: obviously they can't do it. But the idea of shrinking 665 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: the league instead of thirty, you know, thirty teams go 666 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: down to you know, twenty four or something like that, Well. 667 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 6: They're going to go the opposite. They're gonna expansion, right, 668 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 6: So this is at least I do think finally it 669 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 6: seems like they're willing to take some real look. 670 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 10: I guess I said this. 671 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 6: I hope they between expansion which and things they're looking at, like, 672 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 6: let's take some let's actually look at some real things 673 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 6: here as opposed to random band aids that you think 674 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 6: are going to work. And three years later you find 675 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 6: that I just created a whole new set of problem. 676 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: No doubt. 677 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: Hey man, We appreciate it. Man, all the best with 678 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: the book and everything you got going your rown Weisman again, 679 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: reporter of the NBA and author of a Hollywood ending 680 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: dreams and drama Lebron Lakers, and plus you got the 681 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: other book Tanking to the Top and several books. 682 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: Been doing great stuff. Man, continue the great work. 683 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 6: Appreciate it. Thanks having me on all. 684 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: Right, no doubt uh. 685 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: And by the way, you can follow them your rown 686 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: Weisman if you want to give him a follow on 687 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: X Martin last cost that time A seven seven ninety 688 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: nine on Fox, A seven seven ninety nine on Fox 689 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: at that time for the last call. If you've been 690 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: wanting to get in kind of had chance to, this 691 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: is your chance to do so. 692 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: We want to hear from you. 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And which it's all? 721 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: You are the last call? 722 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 10: What's up? 723 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: Man? 724 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 10: Hey? I got one word for the NBA in the 725 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 10: tanky man relegation? You got a G league? 726 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: What in the ted lasso is going on? 727 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 4: Right? 728 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 10: I'm just telling you, man, if you're limited that you 729 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 10: have like a twenty four team NBA league and then 730 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 10: another like a sixteen team or whatever the league that 731 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 10: are actually real teams in there because they're getting ready. 732 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 10: They're getting relegated. The bottom bottom six or whatever bottom 733 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 10: four you get, you get relegated in the top top four, 734 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 10: top six in the other league, get bumped up and 735 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 10: they'll play to win. You don't want to. You don't 736 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 10: want to get relegated. I know the owners aren't gonna 737 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 10: like it, but that's what you got to do to it. 738 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 4: And I got to ask you it's just shoes, my ignorance. 739 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 4: You know way more about football with the you than 740 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 4: I do. So do the relegated teams play like in 741 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 4: your scenario, will these six teams also play the other 742 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 4: twenty four as well or do they just play each other? 743 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 10: No? No, no, they don't play each other. 744 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: But there's more, there's more, there's more teams in the 745 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: league already, right, one goes up, one come down. 746 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: Kind of like that. 747 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, so the bottom four in the Premier League get 748 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 10: relegated down to the Coca Cola League, got and then 749 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 10: the top four and there come up. And actually the 750 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 10: top four have came up before, have finished in the 751 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 10: top four of the top league the very next year, 752 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 10: you know. So it's not like it's it's okay. You know, 753 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 10: you're just getting some terrible bottom feeders. You keep it, 754 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 10: you keep them, signing them, you keep them with the 755 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 10: same team. You know, you'll just take the good players 756 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 10: and put them in the NBA. They'll be bumped down 757 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 10: to the bottom league. 758 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 9: I'm there on contract. 759 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not gonna happen because the NBA is 760 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: been operated without it, and he got owners who make 761 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of money, and they gonna want to be 762 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: looked at less than now, even though we are great. 763 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 3: But the idea of it, I'm not mad at. But 764 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 3: it ain't happened. 765 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 4: So I'm at this is what I do think that 766 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 4: you might actually be able to get through. What's that 767 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 4: if you like, I think that the NBA has set 768 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 4: up luxury taxes. If you're too good, you end up 769 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 4: having to pay the tax. You want to continue to 770 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 4: war that good you have to pay, You have to pay, 771 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: you have to pay. Okay, Brian Winhorse a few weeks 772 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 4: ago say that a GM told him that the number 773 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 4: one overall pick this year would be worth a one 774 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 4: hundred million dollars. They're getting fined five hundred thousand. I 775 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 4: think that you should have a terrible text if you 776 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 4: are finishing in the lottery or in the top ten, right, 777 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: if you finish in the top ten of standings three 778 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 4: years in a row, then you don't get the same 779 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 4: amount of revenue share as everybody else, or you have 780 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 4: to pay some type of fine, like and you still 781 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 4: got to no for if you finish. You're saying that 782 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 4: if you if you finish in the top I misspoke 783 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: finishing the bottom five of the record, right, and so 784 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 4: like the last few years, Washington will qualify right of 785 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 4: the last they had not picked in the lot outside 786 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 4: of the you know, outside of that spot in four 787 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 4: or five years now, you should not get the same 788 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 4: amount of revenue share that the Knicks and the Lakers 789 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 4: and whoever get because you're not holding your out of 790 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 4: the bargain no. 791 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 3: Matter at that one thing. 792 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: The one thing that makes us, the one thing that 793 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: makes us hard though, is because one thing rich people 794 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: love is getting richer, and so the idea of just 795 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: losing money because they can say, hey, it's hard for me. 796 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm not, as you mentioned the Knicks or the Lakers. 797 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: I don't have this desirable destination. I'm trying. I'm Memphis, 798 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm if Washington, I'm trying, if I'm Minnesota 799 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: or what. I'm just using these teams that aren't the 800 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: big time, shiny brands. You know, don't punish me for trying. 801 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: And I gotta suck to get the good players, right, 802 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: I gotta suck to get Obviously the Spurs have been great, 803 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: but they sucked. They got winby Now look at them. 804 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: We all expect them to be great for the next 805 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: ten twelve years. 806 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 3: So you kind of got to do that. 807 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: And so that's the hard part about it all is 808 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: it justifies to being bad. Is that I can be Dallas, 809 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: But if they didn't get Cooper Flag and they lost Luca, 810 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: we'd be looking like, man, we're not. 811 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: Gonna here for Dallas for fifteen years. 812 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 4: I think that's the biggest issue is that they're not 813 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 4: enough ways Like the Patriots last year, they had a 814 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 4: draft just like everybody else, didn't have a credible but 815 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 4: they spent so much money in free agency and hit. 816 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 3: There's no way to do that in the NBA. 817 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 4: There's only way to get better is to get that 818 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 4: guy in the draft. And that's why you have these 819 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 4: teams just selling like there's no way to like trade 820 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 4: your way up to. 821 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: Good because the five hundred thousand dollars fine is worth 822 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: it if I get DJ. 823 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 4: Or unless like the Pacers will do it every so often, 824 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 4: but in general, like, yeah, I'd rather have Victim wimbanyem. 825 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: Hey, great show, good having you on, Man. All the 826 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: best Robs should be back tomorrow. The Jason Smith Show 827 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: with Mike Harmon is coming up next. 828 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: I never miss your radio show. I never hear it, 829 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 3: so I never miss it. 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