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It's here, 46 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: it's tonight. Well, one of us get drafted. Some of 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: us projected to go late in the first round, maybe 48 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: early second. So we'll see whether we get drafted, and 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: we will watch the draft together. You can use this 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: as a second screen experience, just us weighing in on 51 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: all the hijinks of the draft. 52 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 4: So it sounds like you're saying we're watching all sixty 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: picks or fifty eight picks tonight. 54 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 5: You know, I would love to. 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 4: Go in the first round, but I feel like it's 56 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: more of a flyer sort of situation here. Late in 57 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: the draft, we might have to we might have to 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 4: stay around in the green room if it happens. 59 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Anyway, we'll let least do we'll 60 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: probably do the first round at least a lottery again. 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: We'll do a couple hours tonight on playback. That link 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: is in the show notes right now, whether you listen 63 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: and download the podcast or here on YouTube. Okay, early yesterday, 64 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: evening news broke about a potential three team trade that 65 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: was gonna send Porzingis to the Celtics. Malcolm Brogden to 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: the Clippers and draft compensation and Marcus Mors to the Wizards. 67 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: Blog Posts were written, podcasts were recorded, and then things 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: got a little weird because around ten thirty or so, 69 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: multiple reports trickled out saying the Clippers were worried about 70 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: Brogden's medical report, and just like that, a sexy three 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: team deal was off. Everybody put their shirts back on, 72 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: grab their keys out of the ball, and that three 73 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: way was done. But Washington and Boston still wanted to 74 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: make it work, and they had a deadline here at midnight, 75 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: the Zinger would be able to decline his player option 76 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: and become a free agent. The rebuilding Wizards would potentially 77 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: get nothing for him as an asset. So just when 78 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: you thought all hope was lost, the Grizzlies create a 79 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: whole new blockbuster. Take it away, Trey Herby, We got. 80 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: Our sales a tray. 81 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, antigraphic we do. In the end, we got there, guys. 82 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: This is the three team deal. The Celtics are getting 83 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: Kristaps Porzingis and two first round picks, including tonight's number 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: twenty five and then twenty twenty four first round pick 85 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: by way of the Warriors. The Grizzlies getting Marcus Smart 86 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: and the Wizards coming out with Tias Jones, Danilo Gallinari, 87 00:04:53,720 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: Mike Muscala and tonight's thirty fifth pick tasks. I don't 88 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: know if you want to tackle this team by team here, 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: but what was your immediate reaction to this? Did you 90 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: stay up late last night you see this go down? 91 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: Or did you see it this morning? 92 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: I was excited to see that people were up last 93 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: night commenting about it, because then I could read about 94 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: it seven hours later, all these takes. Yeah, that had 95 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: to retool right quick because Zinger to the Celtics, the 96 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: Clippers don't want injured players. That's weird. They back out 97 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: of the Malcolm Brogden part of this. The Grizzlies getting 98 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot better, having to give up some picks, but 99 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: getting a lot better and than the Washington Wizards everyone 100 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: pooped on. But let's save that for later. Celtics or Grizzlies. 101 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: Whatch we start? Let's start with the Celtics. Yeah, I 102 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: think I think they do have some worries here. Knockolm 103 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: Brogden comes back. They've got thinner at the guard position 104 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: at Kristaps Porzingis isn't healthy every single season, So it's 105 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: still a little bit worrisome. But they traded a position 106 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: that they were strong at, the guard position for a 107 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: position they were a little weaker at. Al Horford is old. 108 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: Imagine Kristops porzingis shooting those threes instead of Al Horford 109 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: come postseason time. You got to be excited about that. 110 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: A ridiculously good shooter thirty eight point five percent from 111 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: three last year, stayed on the floor a lot last year. 112 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: He has best year. Yeah, and that's overlooked because everyone 113 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: talks about Kyle Kuzman Washington last year and Bradley Beal obviously, 114 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: But twenty three points per game career hi in fieldgal percentage, 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 1: career high in free throw attempts per game over six, 116 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: which is great for a Celtics team that absolutely needs it. 117 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: So that's it's really exciting. You can see plays breaking 118 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: down with the Celtics all the time. Last year, we 119 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: remember where is this play going? Where's this play? You 120 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: could absolutely give it to Chris Apps even in the 121 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: post at times he was actually the most efficient score 122 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: in the post besides Jokic. What so you know, those 123 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: just options are better. So they've got a talent level increase. 124 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: You're relying a lot on Derek White and now Malcolm 125 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: Brogden and Peyton Pritchard, but you've got a more balanced lineup. 126 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: Have you lost your heart with Marcus Smart? Yeah, but 127 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: they also didn't have one last year at times either, 128 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: so I mean also a great point. Yeah, and Grant 129 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Williams too. This probably means that he's gone with Chrisops. 130 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: Porzingis in there, so you get picks, you get Porzingis. 131 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: I think your ceiling is a little bit higher. You 132 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: definitely have a lower floor, I think because Marcus Smart 133 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: would bring it every night. Now you're relying on White 134 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: and Malcolm Brogden. But if Zinger is on the floor, 135 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: that's a question mark. If Brogden can stay healthy also 136 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: a big question mark. He needs to be there, he 137 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: needs to help out. 138 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: I think there's. 139 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 5: There's more question marks with the Celtics. 140 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: But he got to feel good right the second when 141 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: Porzingis is definitely healthy. But he was able to stay 142 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: on the floor last year and he hits deep, deep, 143 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: deep threes. That's a lot of talent, man, They're really talented. 144 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: What do you think of this for the Celtics side 145 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: of things? 146 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: I think I would have liked it better if it 147 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: was Brogden leaving in a trade rather than Marcus Smart 148 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: the way it was originally. But obviously with Prognant's injury 149 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 4: wasn't gonna happen. We've seen that happen with the. 150 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 5: Players in the past. 151 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 4: A little injury comes up on a report and it's 152 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 4: worse for the team who's acquiring him. But I feel 153 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: like the Celtics kind of reached their limit with Marcus Smart. 154 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 5: He's been there for nine seasons. 155 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 4: They went to the conference finals a whole bunch of times, 156 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: got two wins away from winning a championship. But we've 157 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 4: heard many coaches say over the course of history that 158 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 4: teams can get stale, and maybe that's what's happening here 159 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: with the Celtics. So I think they balanced the roster. 160 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: They had too many guards, questionable bigs. With Grant Williams 161 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: likely leaving now, Horford is advancing in the age. Robert 162 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 4: Williams is awesome when he plays, but not a totally 163 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: reliable guy. So I like getting Porzingis. I think he's 164 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: still good. He fits with what they want to do offensively, 165 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: like tass Is saying he's gonna be able to chuck threes, 166 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: and I mean, you got him shooting what you said, 167 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 4: thirty eight percent. You can put Al Horford out there 168 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 4: as well next to him. He was second in the 169 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: league in three point percentage. There's gonna be five shooters 170 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: on the court for the Celtics. They also got two 171 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: first round picks. They're probably gonna have to pay Porzingis, 172 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: which is definitely risky as well. And I think that 173 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: they're gonna have to address the leadership void for Marcus Smart. 174 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: The guy's been the heart and soul of their team, 175 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 4: no doubt about it. Of Course, we talk about the 176 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: Celtics melting down a lot of times, so maybe that 177 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: plays into it as well. But he was definitely a 178 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 4: figure head there, and he was also their best passer, 179 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 4: easily their best playmaker. So I think that that's something 180 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 4: that the Celtics are going to be missing. I like 181 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: the idea of them having more like bread and butter. 182 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 4: We can go to a screen and roll Porzingis is 183 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 4: popping for three, Tatum or Brown is handling the ball. 184 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 4: I would like to see him get a passer though. 185 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 4: I mean, you see a lot of people talking about 186 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: Chris Paul in the stream team eventually making his way 187 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: to Boston. That's a kind of player that could definitely 188 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 4: help Cauz. I don't know, White and Brogden both really 189 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: good guards, but not necessarily playmakers. 190 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are nailing it out of the bark here. 191 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you've tackled a lot of things that I 192 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: wanted to. I guess the other questions are, and you 193 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: slipped it in here, what does this mean for restricted 194 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: free agent Grant Williams? Is he gone here now because 195 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: of the squeeze of what type of extension you'll probably 196 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: be looking for? Porzingis likely? So this trade really then 197 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: it's Marcus Smart and Grant Williams sort of here for 198 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 3: porzingis you know these picks and I guess maybe more 199 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: of a prominent role for Peyton Pritchard unless they go 200 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: get another guard, another playmaking guard. Because the other question is, 201 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: are the Celtics gonna like be able to first off, 202 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: just welcome Broggden back into the fold like the guy 203 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: was traded until the Clipper said no, that elbow is 204 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: a mess, and we're hearing Windhorse say it's quite you 205 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: know severe. Maybe this injury that torn ligament in his 206 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 3: elbow here, So does that mean you know, can they 207 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: still move him? Is this requiring surgery? How long would 208 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 3: he be out because of that? So that's that's a 209 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 3: big cue. And then yeah, how do you fill out 210 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: the rest of this roster because I don't think they 211 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: actually are done Brad Stevens here in terms of around 212 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: the edges. But I'm with you on the idea of 213 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: like you can give the ball to kp at the 214 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: end of the shot clock. He can, obviously with his size, 215 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: get any shot up. I mean, it's getting the shot 216 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: up no problem. And yeah, you can post them up. 217 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: I think I saw Pelton say this is something that 218 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: the Celtics just never did with their bigs in Horford 219 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: or obviously the time Lord here Jason Tatum led the 220 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: team in post ups and it was like less than 221 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: one hundred, where Porzingis had like, you know, two hundred 222 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: and thirty plus last year like the Wizards. That wasn't 223 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: an option. That's something you could do with his size, 224 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 3: put him on the block and go to work there. 225 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, to get the two picks too, that's something here. 226 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: I mean, that's nice. I'm with you. I would have 227 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: preferred it being brogged and going out and not Smart 228 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: because of the identity that he brings to this team, 229 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: absolutely and the leadership probably in that locker room. But 230 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: to get the picks back is a nice sort of 231 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: like consolation prize for that. 232 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: Marcos Smart has been on the trade block almost every year, 233 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: it feels like, and he just takes it and he 234 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: keeps fighting and the Grizzlies are getting a great player. 235 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: But porzingis is that he's still a unicorn despite being 236 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: in the leaf for a long time. Maybe he's just 237 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: gotten older and been, you know, grown into a comfort 238 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: more comfortable role being a supporting guy. But he's just 239 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: he's really good. I think he's kind of run the 240 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: gamut of being, well, this guy's going to be the 241 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: next one being a really special guy, to now just 242 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: being ridiculously solid. I think it's a fair question to 243 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: ask about his durability. It's still fair even though he 244 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: was able to play was it sixty five games last year? 245 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: Boston asks everybody to move around defensively. A lot switch 246 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: switch this switch, that switch. That's there's going to be 247 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: a lot on him. But like Tray said, you know, 248 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: he can pair him with Robert Williams, you can pair 249 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: him with Al Horford, you can put him at the 250 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: five on his own. So there's lots of options, you know, 251 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: to kind of preserve him if you put him just 252 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: with Robert Williams at times. But the guy can can 253 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: score in the post, especially with four shooters around. So 254 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: there's lots of questions. But I don't know the guard thing. 255 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna rely on Derek quite a lot now and 256 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: he's kind of come into his own, so I'm comfortable 257 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: with that. Last year he played twenty eight minutes per game. 258 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: How long is he gonna play this year, like thirty 259 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: four thirty five? Now that dude has also found his 260 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: role in the NBA, So I think that was a 261 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: part of the thinking here. 262 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: So you don't think you think this is an extension 263 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: here that's going to be offered porzingis probably a lower 264 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: salary but longer term security, And you don't see this 265 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: as like a short term sort of like one year rental. 266 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't think. 267 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: So. 268 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they can. They can extend him for 269 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: two more years, right, it's probably the move. 270 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: Starting July first, I believe, yes. And there's there's reports 271 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: like seventy five seventy six, seventy seven million over the 272 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 3: two years for him that type of extension, which would 273 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: be less than what he makes now, but not just 274 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 3: got a just here. 275 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just got to remember what the salary cap 276 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 4: is looking like because thirty seven mil. Oh, that's a 277 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: lot for Christaps Porzingis. When we're like, man, he played 278 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: so many games last year, sixty five. Yeah, there's concerns. 279 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 4: I mean there this is a risk for the Celtics. 280 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: Like smart, despite the fact that he's very up and down, 281 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 4: he played, he gave it his all every single night. 282 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 4: There's a chance you signed Porzingis to an extension and 283 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 4: he plays sixty five total games in the next two seasons. 284 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: He's also got to adjust to being the third guy. 285 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 5: That is tough. 286 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: It hasn't gone well for everybody that's been the third guy. 287 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: And I'm not so sure I like this that I'm 288 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: seeing here in the stream. Team people are calling the 289 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 4: new Celtics front court the time Corn front Court. 290 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 5: Time Lord plus Unicorn up and down on time court. 291 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: Okay, where the Celtics gonna start? Do you think do 292 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: you think it's obviously it's Tatum and Brown. I would 293 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: assume Derek White is the point guard right now unless 294 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: Brogden is, you know, magically healed, and then who are 295 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: your You're starting too big? So are you going Horford? KP? 296 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: Are you going? KP? And time Lord and Horford off 297 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: the bench? What are you doing here? 298 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: I think Al Horford comes off the bench. Okay, I 299 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: think it's time he and it's it's good for He'll 300 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: be fresher in the postseason. As Trey said, an incredible 301 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: regular season three point percentage, and then he just fell 302 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: apart a little bit in the playoffs. He is timeless. 303 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: He still looks the exact same, but at some point 304 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: a thirty seven year old is gonna get old. And 305 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: I think that's we kind of saw that. So yeah, 306 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: it's Robert Williams and Porzingis because it helps for saying, 307 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: even though he is a pretty good rim deterrent and 308 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: that's what the numbers say, I think it kind of 309 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: it helps him have Robert Willis, but he's the backup 310 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: five or Horford's backup five. They got great options now. 311 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: So Smart the heart of the team obviously throwed his 312 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: nine years there longest tenured player on the roster, and 313 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: one of the best and versatile perimeter defenders in the league. 314 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: Do you know over the last thirty years most games 315 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: played for the Celtics, If you had to take a 316 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: guess who's at the top of that list with over 317 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: eleven hundred, who would you go? It's not Paul Paul Pierce, 318 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: That's right. And then Marcus Smart's second at five hundred 319 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: and eighty one games than Antoine Walker five point fifty two, 320 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: Rondo five to twenty seven. Yeah, that's a lot of games. 321 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: And then he played over like one hundred playoff games too. Yeah, 322 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: there's that whole effect where he played in just like 323 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: I think he played in the playoffs every single time 324 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: he's been on the Celtics. 325 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 5: And they were like a twenty five win team when 326 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 5: he joined. Something like that. 327 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: It was almost exactly ten years ago that the Celtics 328 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: traded Guard and Paul Pierce to the Nets in that 329 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: franchise altering deal that brought the picks that turned into 330 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: Tatum and Brown. Stevens hired as a head coach a 331 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: week later. He's coaches one year and then they draft 332 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: Marcus Smart with the number six pick in the twenty 333 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: fourteen draft, and yeah, they haven't missed the playoffs since 334 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: he joined this team, and you know, I don't think 335 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: anyone would expect them to miss the playoffs with their 336 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: superstars now. But it's going to be a change. You 337 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: said it here. Tasks like putting Porzingis in because smart 338 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: he was like he was their defense. Really the way 339 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: they could play, the switch ability obviously for a smaller 340 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: guy could play against basically anyone because of his strength 341 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: and smarts and all that. So that's going to be 342 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: different with drop coverage with KP and you know, where 343 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: do you hide him if you are going with the 344 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: two bigs. Can't wait to see it. But they just 345 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: decided we also just can't run. We don't want to 346 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: run this squad back here, and we got too many guards. 347 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: They tried to move Brogden. That blows up and they 348 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: were like, all right, well, I guess we got to 349 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: go with Smart. Then we get some picks back. We'll 350 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: be happy because we still get Porzingis. 351 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: Let's move on to I just think they're ridiculously excited 352 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: to have Porzingis shooting the ball as a third option. 353 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: Think about that. I would kind of consider him the 354 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: third option with the Wizards last year with what Kuzma 355 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: was doing. He was third on shot attempts and he 356 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: was ridiculously efficient. This offense is good. I agree his 357 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 1: numbers a little bit. 358 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, then you play making. Here's the only thing. Okay, 359 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 3: it's one thing to hit your twenty seven foot bombs 360 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: in the first and second quarters. Let's just wait to 361 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: see what happens in close games, tight games. The gardens 362 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: rocking focuses to get the ball out of Tatum or 363 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: Brown's hands, It finds his way to kp on the wing. 364 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: He's wide open, and I just want to see if he's, 365 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: you know, got the clutch gene in him. Here when 366 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: it's a little more when the butt holes are a 367 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 3: little more tighter, Okay, knock it down, you shake. He might. 368 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 5: It didn't go well in Dallas. 369 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: He might. It's funny, right, he puts up these monster numbers. 370 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 3: The Wizards a great season, great percentages, you know, incredible 371 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 3: true shooting percentage. He does protect the room because he's 372 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: seven foot three. How can you not. But like sometimes 373 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 3: we're like, uh, okay, great state, great stats on a 374 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: bad team, and we sometimes go okay, well, okay, anyone 375 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: can go get basically twenty and nine in this league. 376 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: Let's see you do it on a good team, and 377 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: we're gonna find out he probably can, especially as a 378 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 3: third option. Yeah offensively. 379 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the pressure is on the other dudes. Yeah really 380 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: so I think I think they take the pressure off him. 381 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: He played in New York, he was an All Star 382 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: until he got injured. I means he can play with pressure. 383 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: I think you know, he's gone through a roller coaster. Yeah, 384 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be great to see him on a good 385 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: team for sure. 386 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Grizzlies. Let's start with you here, 387 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: Trey Marcus, smart, grit and grind goes to the grizz. 388 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 4: The most Grizzlies player who was never a Grizzly up 389 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 4: until now. I think this is this is nice from them. 390 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 4: I know people are like, why are they adding two 391 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 4: first round picks? Definitely a question, But the first one 392 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 4: is late in the draft this year and the next 393 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: one is Golden State, So I guess there's a little 394 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: bit of risk there. You could be given up like 395 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 4: a sixteenth pick. If Curry gets hurting, things go poorly 396 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: for the Warriors. But basically the Grizzlies are getting jam 397 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 4: Morant insurance for however long he ends up being suspended 398 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 4: this season. Not to mention, Jah has missed chunks of 399 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 4: time with injuries throughout his career as well. They also 400 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 4: get their Dylan Brooks replacement just right away by getting 401 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: a better Dylan Brooks exact same guy, but Marcus Smart 402 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 4: is just a little bit better at everything that Dylan 403 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 4: Brooks was. And that's one guy. I think it's like 404 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: a real hand and glove fit. He's a grown up, 405 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: like Marcus Smart we've been talking about in the playoffs. 406 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: Every year of his career has gone to the finals, 407 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 4: has played in the conference finals, a beloved citizen of Boston. 408 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 4: So I think it's good to get a guy here 409 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 4: who's gonna come in and be the vet. And then 410 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 4: you just think about the fact that the Grizzlies now 411 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 4: have the back to back defensive Player of the Year. 412 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 4: Marcus Smart is the three time Hustle Award winner. They're 413 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: just going to rename it the Grit and Grind Marcus 414 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 4: Smart Awards. So give it to him for number four. 415 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: It'll be weird. I think when John Morant comes back 416 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 4: and the best perimeter players are like six foot four, 417 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 4: that's gonna be tough, but you got Jaron Jackson Junior 418 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 4: back there to help out. And I think the big 419 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 4: thing here, the big thing that Memphis was really all about, 420 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 4: is that Marcus Smart's on an awesome contract right now, 421 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: eighteen and a half million next season, then twenty then 422 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: twenty one. The two years after that, They're gonna have 423 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: a very expensive big three between Jaw Jared Jackson Junior, 424 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: and they're gonna have to pay bane with this new 425 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 4: CBA coming, you like to have a long, low cost, 426 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 4: controlled contract. They didn't have that with Tyas Jones, so 427 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: they upgraded, they got insurance, they replaced the player that'll 428 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 4: cost you too later picks. I think, so good job 429 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 4: by the Grizzlies as well. 430 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got to be really really excited. It is 431 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: a small market. Cost certainty is a big part of this, 432 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: and Jared Jackson Junior's contract is actually decent when you 433 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: look at it, and it's descending. Grizzly's front office knows 434 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: what it's doing there. RAN's getting paid bained. As you said, 435 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: the money is a part of this. Yeah, they got 436 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: to give up two first round picks, but they had 437 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: four last year. It's like you got to stop picking 438 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: at some point, and you just got to hope that 439 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: these guys come through. They are small, for sure, Yeah, 440 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: but Marcus Matt plays way bigger than his size. We 441 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: know that. And you know, this is an instance where 442 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: they were looking for a three. That's what they've always 443 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: been looking for. They know they got Moran and Bain, 444 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: they know they have Jared Jackson Junior in the front court. 445 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: This allows them, I think, to play Luke Kennard as 446 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: a as a defensive player that teams go at to 447 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: start the season for sure, and then he goes to 448 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: the bench when John Moran comes back, and it's Yeah, Morant, 449 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: Bain and Marcus Smart on the perimeter. It feels like 450 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: a really, really good lineup. I don't think there's really 451 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: any question marks for that on that front. And so 452 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: they get Brandon Clark back and this guy, you know 453 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: I was talking about yesterday, the possibility of going to 454 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: get Draymond Green. There's the rumors out there that the 455 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: Grizzlies were on the list of teams that wanted Draymond 456 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: Green because they needed to correct that locker room. Here's 457 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: Marcus Matt. I mean, that's exactly what they're doing here. 458 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: They things have been going awry the last couple of years. 459 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if he joins the the pregame dance 460 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: that they've done, they probably just get rid of that. Actually, 461 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: no more dancing, I don't think more. 462 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 3: I think we're dancing. 463 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that'll be like a telltale sign. Dylan 464 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: Brooks was front and center. You had a lot of 465 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 4: those dances. If they come out for the first game, 466 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 4: no dancing, you'll see Smart's influence serious time. 467 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: It's serious time, and he'll help there. He'll help in 468 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: the seriousness of it all. 469 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: I think I go back to what you said Trey 470 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 3: about him on a very favorable deal here about about 471 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 3: twenty million over three years, because even Tyas Jones, like 472 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: the fear was, he's going to start twenty five games 473 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: or so where Moran's out, He's probably gonna play exceptionally well. 474 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: They'll probably be okay. He's gonna make a lot of 475 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 3: money because he'd be coming up for obviously a contract. 476 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: He's fairly young, Tys Jones is, and it's like they 477 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 3: would have been paying them more probably and that would 478 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: have been an issue, I mean as a backup guard especially. 479 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 3: So Yeah, they're bringing Smart Smart is a playmaker. Obviously, 480 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: it could change like sort of the identity of that 481 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: locker room, maybe get a little more serious in sort 482 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: of plugging and playing for Dylan Brooks there still doing 483 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 3: the things that Dylan Brooks did do well. I know, 484 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 3: we like to shit on Dylan Brooks, but he was 485 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: good for the Grizzlies, And so now Smart can do 486 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: that be the point guard. Then he can sort of 487 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: slide over and play off the ball, which he's done 488 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: for years here obviously with other talented players in this league. 489 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 3: So it makes sense. I just wonder how like this 490 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: whole thing goes down last night, Like, so they have 491 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: the deal with the Clippers, it's a three team deal. 492 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: It suddenly gets blown up because the Glippers are like, no, 493 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: we don't trust Brogden's elbow. So it's like, is Brad 494 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 3: Stevens does he already have like a plan be in 495 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: place and it was the Grizzlies and they had already 496 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: talked about it previously, or was this some other deal 497 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: that was already being kicked around and all that like, 498 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: or is it like does he just does Brad Stevens 499 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 3: just send like a like a chat to the to 500 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: the WhatsApp group, all the gms like, ah, God, anybody 501 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: want to help us out here in this three team 502 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: deal here? Anybody went in, anybody went brogged in. I 503 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 3: was like, no, no thumbs down coming across the what's appened? 504 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: Then suddenly what about smart? 505 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 6: You know? 506 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: Is that how it goes down? I'm just fascinated. I'll 507 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 3: get them back. 508 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 4: Those three start their own little what'sappen? Yeah, peel out 509 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 4: been off? Who do you think they have as the 510 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 4: photo for the NBA GNS group chat on WhatsApp. 511 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 5: Jerry West, Yeah, what about just. 512 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: Like a little dollar sign maybe even too, Yeah. 513 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 5: The money or something like that. 514 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we should look into that. Any other thoughts on 515 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: the grizz here, Yeah, it seems pretty high on it. 516 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: Well, Yeah, it was interesting just how quickly it came together. 517 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 1: It is. 518 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just like ninety minutes because we had 519 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 3: a real deadline because of the kp opting in or 520 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 3: opting out a whole situation like that was a legit deadline, 521 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 3: which is sort of fun. 522 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, there must have been conversations in the background that 523 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: have happened beforehand, and not to get into the nitty gritty, 524 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: but I guess the Celtics were sharing their background on 525 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: Malcolm Brogden's injuries, right, because usually it's oh, this team 526 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: did a physical after the trade was agreed to. They 527 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: didn't like what they saw coming back on the m 528 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: R M M. Trade him back. We don't want them. 529 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: But I guess I don't know if the Grizzlies just 530 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: got cold feet on their own or if they actually 531 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: got some sort of reports on that elbow. But I 532 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: guess everybody's everybody knows about it from Yeah, everybody knows 533 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: about it from reporters. Like when horses saying the elbow 534 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: is bad. 535 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 5: He's saying they might not be able to trade him, period. 536 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. 537 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: So that's why I get into Boston. Yeah, exactly. As 538 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: for the Wizards, adding Tis Jones obviously the main piece 539 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 3: coming to them, and then Gullinari and Moose, I don't 540 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 3: think they'll even ever play for the Wizards, I guess possibly, 541 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: but they get Uh. 542 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 5: They're both travish, schlank guys, big slankheads. 543 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 3: The big slank heads. Okay, that's true. Yeah, Look, we 544 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: talked about Jones, was that yesterday when we were doing 545 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 3: the slop round up, And you know how how a 546 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: lot of teams would want his services as he's just 547 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 3: brilliant at running a team. He never turns the ball over, 548 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 3: high assist you know, he could score a little. He 549 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 3: gets at it defensively. He's not like on a smart 550 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: level like that, but he competes. He's got one year 551 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: left on his deal, then he's a pre agent. But 552 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 3: this is this is really all the Wizards get here. 553 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 3: I mean Beal leaves and Porzingis leaves, and they get 554 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: no first round picks. That's a tough pill to swallow. 555 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 3: I know they're doing the right thing of like blowing 556 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: it up and tearing it down to the to the studs, 557 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 3: but not a first round pick for either of these, 558 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: like in Beal's case, all NBA players and like sort 559 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 3: of fringe all star guys. That's tough. 560 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: That's right deadline last season when he's probably gonna be 561 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: making like twenty something mil. 562 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 5: After the thing. 563 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 4: But the good thing for the Wizards is that they 564 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 4: have their own picks, and they are gonna probably be 565 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: the worst team in the Eastern Conference this season, maybe 566 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 4: in the entire league. 567 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 5: We'll see how things shake out. 568 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 4: I think it's very funny that they keep acquiring whoever 569 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 4: is known as the best backup point guard in the NBA. 570 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: First it was de lawn Wright, then it was Montey Morris, 571 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: now it's Tiest. 572 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: Those are the three best they got all three. 573 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 4: I love them all, and they're all coming off the 574 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 4: bench for Chris Paul right now as it stands. 575 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 5: But I think actually what the Wizards. 576 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 4: Is doing, it looks very weird to see the Celtics 577 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 4: get the best player and two picks, but the Wizards 578 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: want to be to zero completely. They don't want to 579 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: take on any long term salary, which is the big thing. 580 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 4: Tias Jones he's off the books at the end of 581 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 4: next season if they even keep him. Same with Muskala, 582 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 4: same with Gallinari. If they were getting a player back, 583 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 4: or if they were getting picks back, they're probably taking 584 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: on longer contracts, which they do not want to do 585 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 4: right now. So I think it's a completely starting fresh, 586 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 4: hoping they're drafting in the top three for the next 587 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 4: couple of seasons. Maybe at the trade deadline you can 588 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 4: flip Tias Jones for a couple of second rounders or 589 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: a late first or something like that. They've got a 590 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 4: ton of cap space to take in contracts during the 591 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: year and then you're getting a first round pick. So 592 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 4: I think it's all right for the Wizards. It looks terrible, 593 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: but that's not really a Michael Winger's fault. That's more 594 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 4: Tommy Shepherd's fault. 595 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a chance that Washington. Washington could have 596 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: as little as thirty three million dollars on the books 597 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: for the twenty twenty four to twenty five seasons. That 598 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 3: would be like one hundred million dollars in cap space. 599 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: Like the way they're going, the way they're setting this. 600 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: Up here, those guys would love it, the guys that 601 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: are actually on the books because because those are the 602 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: guys who actually get the money to get them to 603 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: the salary cap floor. Not that that would happen, but no, 604 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: get that money. So those guys get paid. 605 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 3: Here are they gonna keep Kuzma like thirty three million 606 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: dollars a. 607 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 5: Year just giving Bradley Beal's contract. 608 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: Now, how do you think the Wizards have made out here? 609 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: Well, everybody grading this trade, I think in combination with 610 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: the Bradley Beal deal, so that that gets compounded. But 611 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: I think this one in a vacuum isn't as bad. 612 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: It was porzingis on a single year contract. He had 613 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: one more year, and so this is the this is 614 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: the price that people would be willing to pay a 615 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: number thirty five pick they do get here, which is 616 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: almost a first round pick. It's only five picks away 617 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: and and Tyas Jones, So yes, it doesn't have first 618 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: round pick in front of it. But I think that's 619 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: what you know. Bradley Beal deal aside, which was horrendous 620 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: because there are teams willing to give up first round 621 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: picks for Bradley Beal that they couldn't take because Bradley 622 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: Beal said no, I don't want to go there. So 623 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: that looks horrible of course. But in this case, for Kristaps, 624 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: porzingis a guy who is going to leave eventually, who 625 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: could have just opted out and signed somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, yes, he. 626 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: May be told them that. So I'm either like, okay, 627 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: well we better get something back, otherwise he just leaves. 628 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think he wanted to play there. I 629 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: think he wanted to go somewhere and sign a long 630 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: term deal. He's he had the best year of his career. 631 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: He thought that he could get a couple of years 632 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: and he's right. It seems like the Celtics are going 633 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: to give him a couple of years on top of 634 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: the one he had. So yeah, I love pooping on 635 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: the Wizards, especially with the Bradley Beal deal. Again, he'd 636 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: say two first round picks. They say, oh, yeah, that's great. 637 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: Bradley Beel says, hell not, I ain't doing that. So yeah, 638 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: this sucks overall, but they are just trying to get bad. 639 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: It would be nice if they had a first round pick. 640 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, would you have rather the Wizards 641 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: came out last night with the first iteration of this 642 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: three team deal, and they would have had I believe 643 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: Marcus Morris sort of as the salary and then the 644 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: thirtieth pick. That's what the reports were. So the late 645 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: first round pick, I mean it was a first round 646 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: or it's not a lot different, I guess than the 647 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: thirty fifth pick in the second round. 648 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 5: But yes, yeah, I get you don't get Tias Jones. 649 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: Tis Jones is a better player than Marcus Morris. Also true, 650 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 4: but there's a reason that was the first deal. Everybody 651 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 4: liked that one more. 652 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, and Tias Jones. Again, it's like 653 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: what Trey said about Monte Morris being the best backup 654 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: point guard going into sort of a starter with the Wizards. 655 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: He'll be fine as a starter, but he has to 656 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: be absolutely the fifth best player on a great team 657 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: to be, you know, a real real difference maker. Everybody 658 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: loves him, but the stats aren't going to be awesome 659 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: in his stats, in his starts, in his start stats 660 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: last year, I mean they aren't incredible numbers. Ten five assists, 661 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: a couple boards in a three and a half per game. 662 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: So that's that's the type of thing that you can 663 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: expect from Tyas Jones, and he could have complimented the 664 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: Grizzlies players. I would have loved to see a healthy 665 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: Grizzlies team as him as the sort of the fifth 666 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: best option because he's a talented guy and everybody wants 667 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: them on their team. But the Wizards are, Yeah, they're 668 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: going to be horrendous. 669 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: So who is the big winner of this three team deal? 670 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: Do you like it? It sounds like you don't mind 671 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 3: it for all three squads. Really, they all have different 672 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: you know, plans here moving forward as a franchise. But 673 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 3: you see him, I don't want to put words in 674 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: your mouth, but you're you're high on it for all 675 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: three squads. 676 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: I feel like I saw all three fan bases excited 677 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 4: and upset yesterday this morning, so it feels like a 678 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 4: was fine trade to me. I think if I were 679 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 4: going winners in order, it would go Celtics, Grizzlies, Wizards. 680 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: But I think the Grizzlies did a good job. I 681 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 4: think the Celtics did a good job. It's risky, but 682 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 4: I think they probably needed to just change things up 683 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: a little bit. And then the Wizards, like they're doing 684 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 4: what people wanted them to do, just not necessarily the 685 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 4: way we've come to expect it, where you're getting back 686 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: three first round picks. 687 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 5: For all Stars. 688 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: But these were like borderline all Stars. They traded away 689 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 4: that they had done stupid stuff in the past before. 690 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: Right, So right, all right, well let's hear from everybody 691 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: out there. I know we got the pull up on YouTube. 692 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: Who was the big winner in this three team deal, Celtics, grizz. 693 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 5: Or Whizz with the results right now? 694 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 3: Sure? Because I put it up early. 695 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in that order. Celtics sixty four percent of 696 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 4: people think they're the winner. Twenty nine for the Grizzlies 697 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 4: and six for the Wizard. 698 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 3: That makes some sense. 699 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: The Celtics got the best player. Yeah, so everybody's gonna say, yeah, 700 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: but Smart's going to be huge, huge for the Grizzlies. 701 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,239 Speaker 3: I think had some other news yesterday because we had 702 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: some players that needed to decide whether they were opting 703 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: in or opting out. And uh, the Bucks Chris Middleton 704 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 3: declined his forty million dollar player option, so he will 705 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 3: be an unrestricted free agent, though a lot of people 706 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: think this just means he will be signing with the 707 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: Bucks on a sort of a longer term, cheaper deal. 708 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 3: Is that what you think you're Oh. 709 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: He turned down forty He must know something that, yes, 710 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: the Bucks are going to say, here we go. It's 711 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: going to help us a lot if you take a 712 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: cheaper deal. Actually, even for this coming season and for 713 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: following seasons, I think you gotta worry a little bit 714 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: about him physically. He had knee problems all last year. 715 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: Then he had minor knee surgery on that same knee 716 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: after the year, but he did come back and he 717 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: did have a good postseason, So they probably just know 718 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: that he's healthy. Even though he's going to be thirty two. 719 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: He is part of their future plans, as I've said 720 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: a billion times, because I thought it was interesting him 721 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: and Yanistitch Kompo were taking all the interviews. They're interviewing 722 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: everybody and including being in on the Adrian Griffin search. 723 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: Those two guys specifically on their roster. So he has 724 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: to be part of the future. And yeah, I guess 725 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: he's just taking the lower number because it benefits both 726 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: sides and it's good for him. He is, He's a Buck. 727 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: It felt like Marcus Smart would be a Celtic forever, 728 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: and it feels like Chris Milton's going to be a 729 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: Buck forever. 730 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: Any thoughts here, TK, Yeah, I assume he's going back 731 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 4: to the Bucks and has some kind of a wink 732 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 4: wink in place, because when you look at teams with 733 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 4: cap space, it's like the Rockets and the Jazz could 734 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 4: beat a forty million dollar offer. You could see a 735 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 4: reason to have Chris Middleton on either of those teams. 736 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 4: But I haven't heard him come up as one of 737 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 4: the vets that the Rockets are after, and it doesn't 738 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 4: feel like the Jazz want to make that kind of 739 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 4: an improvement right now, spend all their money there so 740 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 4: the tea leaves definitely say it back to the Bucks, 741 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 4: especially the way Adrian Griffin and John Horst were talking 742 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 4: at their first press conference, basically praising Chris Middleton and 743 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 4: Brook Lopez as well as huge parts of what the 744 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 4: Bucks have built. And then Hollinger mentions, looking at what 745 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 4: Chris Middleton could sign, a four year deal in the 746 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 4: one hundred million dollar range will be the equivalent of 747 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 4: a three year sixty million dollar extension, but could save 748 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 4: the Bucks tens of millions of luxury tax in twenty 749 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 4: three to twenty four. 750 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 5: So that seems to make sense to me. 751 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 4: Something four for one hundred, maybe three for ninety if 752 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 4: they wanted to line up more so, the same with 753 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 4: Janni Santa to Counpo. Twenty five million for a thirty 754 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 4: five year old at the end of the deal not terrible, 755 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 4: I don't think, especially with the cap rising and rising. 756 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 3: If they come out with that twenty five million for 757 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 3: Chris Middleton, that's really really good, and in my opinion, 758 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 3: him doing the franchise a bit of a favor. I 759 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: think he deserves more, even still coming off the injuries. 760 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: I was shocked to see what he did against the 761 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 3: Heat in the first round. I had forgotten all about 762 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: how well he played. Maybe it's because they just got 763 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: sort of surprised by the Miami heat, obviously, the eight 764 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 3: seed upsetting Giannis, who was out for a little bit 765 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 3: in the Bucks. He ever just twenty four, six and 766 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 3: six and thirty five minutes a game, shot forty six 767 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: percent from the field and forty from deep. Did we 768 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: talk about Chris Middleton once in that series in all honesty, 769 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: and like that sort of sums up Chris Milton his 770 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: entire career. It feels like he's really really good, great numbers. 771 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 3: You don't talk about him a lot. He is the 772 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 3: Ferris Wheel, as we call him. He has those like 773 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 3: crazy sort of highs and these are just pretty steady otherwise. 774 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: But man, if they get him for twenty five million 775 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 3: per year, even for four years, that's I think it's 776 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 3: going to be more than that would will still be less. 777 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 4: Than maybe like sure thirty million a year ish, Yeah, 778 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 4: because he he is good. 779 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you're just hoping he bounces back from the injury. 780 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 3: Did he start to decline a little bit defensively? You 781 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: know it's sort of similar, you know, he's not on 782 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 3: the same level, but people think the Celtics were moving 783 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 3: off Marcus Smart because they started to see a little 784 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 3: bit of a decline on that end. As he gets 785 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 3: up there in age. It's the same things start going 786 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 3: to happen with a guy like Middleton. Maybe, but he's 787 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 3: gonna stay with Milwaukee. It'll just be whatever number they 788 00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 3: agree to. 789 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: Here, he's the best available for them. Even if they 790 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 1: were even if they were to say, now we don't 791 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: watch you, we're going to go look at a free agent. 792 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: Middleton's the top of the free agent class at a 793 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: wing position to help, and he was underutilized in that 794 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: playoff series. The only time he really came up was 795 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: when it came to the end of the games when 796 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: they were, you know, tossing the ball away and throwing 797 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: it off people's head. And it was easy to look 798 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: at that and just say, put that ball in the 799 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: hand of Chris Middleton and let him run some picking 800 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: rolls with the Anstadt goopbo he was was Mike Budenholtzer 801 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: just wasn't using him enough as as they were falling 802 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: apart in that series. So, yeah, he got a question. 803 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: He's thirty two injuries, sure, but they must know that. Yeah, 804 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 1: he's he's ready to go. 805 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 3: And then we had another guy decline his player option, 806 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 3: Nuggets Bruce Brown. This wasn't really a surprise, only six 807 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 3: point eight million dollar player option that he declined, so 808 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 3: he becomes an unrestricted free agent. He was obviously great 809 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 3: explosive off the bench for the Nuggets championship run. He 810 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 3: averaged eleven four and three last season career highs. So 811 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 3: there are two options for Bruce Brown here. He can 812 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: return to Denver on a contract that starts at about 813 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 3: seven point eight million with the player option in year two. 814 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 3: That's the maximum he can sign with Denver because he 815 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 3: has non bird rights and Denver is a tax team, 816 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 3: so this would allow him to establish early bird rights 817 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four and signed for a contract then 818 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 3: north of twelve million dollars. As Bobby Marks put it, 819 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 3: this would be the Bobby Portis type deal that he 820 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 3: did with Milwaukee. Pretty funny that Bobby Portis was even 821 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 3: commenting on that said he changed the game, just like 822 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 3: Kat could have been ant the night. Or Bruce Brown 823 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 3: can sign with a team that has cap space or 824 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 3: with the twelve point two million dollars non tax mid 825 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 3: level and you have to keep in mind here, Bruce 826 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 3: Brown has not made a lot of money in his career, 827 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 3: like fifteen million career, because of where he started and 828 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 3: how he got into this league. So what But then 829 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 3: we heard at the championship parade, I mean, Mike Malone 830 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: basically like he's not going anywhere, gave it a mere 831 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, yeah, okay, maybe, but it will 832 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 3: be on this sort of you know deal. It would 833 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 3: be on a hell of a deal to then sign 834 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 3: a longer contract like Bobby Porters did with Milwaukee. Do 835 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 3: you think that's what Bruce Brown does with the idea 836 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 3: of like we could go back to back, maybe we 837 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 3: have a dynasty here. I'm an instrumental player in that. 838 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 3: Or does the guy just take a paycheck from another 839 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 3: team he'd probably get twice. 840 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: That was Michael Malone drunk or not? The answer is yes, yes, yes, 841 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: That's when I knew he was drunk when he wasn't 842 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: contemplating the salary cap ramifications for Bruce Brown. I hope 843 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: he comes back on a one year deal and then 844 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: they say in twenty four to twenty five, pay the man, 845 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: especially because the cap keeps going up. But also, yeah, 846 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: they're paying guys. You know, their top four is getting paid, 847 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 1: as we've said, so it will be difficult. I guess 848 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: he ends up taking a bigger contract from somewhere else. 849 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: That would be my guess who. But I do want 850 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: to see him give him a The winkie wink that 851 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: the Bucks have with Chris Middleton could be happening with 852 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: Bruce and. 853 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 5: It happened with Bobby. Yeah. 854 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I love the idea of the Bobby Portis contract, 855 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 4: but I think it's gonna go the other way. I 856 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 4: think Bruce Brown's gonna leave for a check somewhere. Even 857 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 4: the non tax mid level exception is only twelve point 858 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 4: four million, he could probably get more than that. I 859 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 4: would imagine four teams, Rockets, Jazz, Spurs and Thunder. 860 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 5: They all have money. She could see him on literally 861 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 5: all of those teams. 862 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 3: Wow, I guess Spurs, Y Spurs, like. 863 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 5: Alongside Wen Bin Yama and Sohan. That's cool. 864 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 4: Thunder if they want to like take another leap forward. 865 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 4: He's young enough that he fits in there and a 866 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 4: little bit of veteranship. Same with the Jazz Rockets. Seems 867 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 4: a little more far fetched, but there are teams. All 868 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 4: those teams, I think could talk themselves into Bruce Brown, 869 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 4: especially considering the rest of the free agency class. Then 870 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 4: you look at what the Nuggets have done since making 871 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 4: the finals. Suddenly they have the twenty ninth pick, the 872 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 4: thirty second pick, and the thirty seventh pick, which are 873 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 4: all swings on trying to replace Bruce Brown, trying to 874 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 4: find the next Christian Brown. Apparently they're hyped about this guy, 875 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 4: Peyton Watson Tassa saw dunk at the Finals in a practice, 876 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 4: So it looks like they're trying to find their Bruce 877 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 4: Brown replacement for even cheaper. 878 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I totally agree. And you said, those teams that 879 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: want to take the next step, it's not like they're 880 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, harming themselves financially by signing Bruce Brown. It's 881 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 1: like twelve, thirteen, fourteen dollars for a great glue guy. 882 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: That's a great deal, and Bruce may may have to 883 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: take it just yeah, for the next few years he 884 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: makes extra dough. I know it's tough to leave. 885 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that'd be a tough decision in all. Honestly, 886 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 3: like if like like a lot of us think, man, 887 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 3: they could definitely win another championship, if not more, with 888 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 3: their structure with the MVP type talent they have, do 889 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 3: you want to leave that? Like you're a beloved guy 890 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 3: already and like man, but then again, like if you 891 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 3: got double triple the salary and the ring, you already 892 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 3: got the ring. Yeah, man, that's tough stuff. We'll see 893 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 3: what Bruce Brown does. This is for these sickles only, 894 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,720 Speaker 3: just a quick trivia question. Anops out Bruce Brown. Opso 895 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 3: what's the what's the link between those two guys? No, 896 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 3: I mean a link loosely, but what is the common thread? 897 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 3: Sickos only? 898 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 5: They were both Detroit Pistons. That's it. 899 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 3: I wanted you to go one step further. Both the 900 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: second round picks big stuff. 901 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 5: I was like, did they they didn't cross over on 902 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 5: the pistons. 903 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 904 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 3: No Middleton twenty twelve, Bruce Brown twenty eighteen. But good stuff, 905 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 3: second round picks, both of those guys. You keep that 906 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 3: in mind tonight when you're watching the second round. You 907 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 3: can find yourself Chris Middleton, you can find yourself a 908 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 3: Bruce Brown. 909 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 5: You can find yourself in Nikola Jokic. 910 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 3: Damn right or or Casada? 911 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 5: What was it case Arita? 912 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 4: I actually went to taco Bell last night wearing a 913 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 4: Jokic shirt. 914 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 3: You went after the pickup run. 915 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, buddy, Wow. 916 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 5: Families out of town save its special time. 917 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 4: I mean every time I drive home from basketball and 918 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 4: passing the taco you and I always want to get 919 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 4: home see my wife give her a hug. But she's gone, baby, 920 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 4: I said, so, you're hugging Burrito Retos Loco Tacos Supreme. 921 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so made a mistake drinking a. 922 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 4: Big old mountain dude though at eleven o'clock at night, 923 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 4: No wonder that. 924 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,439 Speaker 3: I was watching Avatar last night. 925 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to work out a cramp in the 926 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: second half of the show. Possible, you know, you know 927 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: it's actually I love I love that move. Wife's out 928 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: of town, go to just go. Yesterday Danielle saw this 929 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: taco place that we had been wanting to go to, 930 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: and she said, all right, I'm doing it. She came 931 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: back with a bag of tacos and stuff. They ended 932 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: up being like Taco Bell tacos without the feeling of 933 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: going to Taco Belle expensive. Probably, yeah, probably I would 934 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: have rather pulled that off. Can't wait untill she goes 935 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: out of town from over. 936 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 5: Like eleven tonight. 937 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 4: If you want to want to hang out, we're gonna 938 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 4: make a run for the border to live, play back together, 939 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 4: eat some Taco bell. 940 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 3: Why not? All right, we gotta take a break, and 941 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 3: what when we come back, We're gonna look ahead to 942 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 3: tonight's NBA Draft. I got some questions for the guys 943 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 3: and all of you. Don't go anywhere. 944 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: Dave Grisham. 945 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 4: If you want the first half of that statement. Some 946 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 4: people are Dave to four, but everybody's Dave Grishaan. 947 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 3: JD. Y'll know we're coming back and this guy continues 948 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 3: to keep going anyway. We are just hours away from 949 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,479 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty three NBA Draft. Highly encourage you all 950 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 3: to join us tonight on playback at eight pm Eastern. 951 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 3: Taco bell will be consumed while we watch the draft. 952 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 3: That link is in the show notes. Now a lot 953 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 3: can change between now and then, but most of the 954 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 3: mock drafts still have it one, two, three, go in 955 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 3: wemban Yama to the Spurs, Brandon Miller to the Hornets, 956 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 3: and Scoot Henderson to the Blazers. The latest intel, just 957 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 3: to set this up, Anthony Black is getting buzz as 958 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 3: high as number six, where the Jazz could be targeting 959 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 3: a trade. Apparently they really want Anthony Black Derek Lively 960 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 3: the second's draft range, that's one to watch. He told 961 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 3: the media the other day that he doesn't have a promise, 962 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 3: like he doesn't have a team telling him where he's going, 963 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 3: and that his draft range, he said, this is anywhere 964 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 3: from ten to twenty. So we'll see if he goes 965 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 3: to the MAVs or if that picks moved, or if 966 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 3: he goes further on. Cam Whitmore could drop as far 967 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 3: as number nine to again potentially the Jazz there that's 968 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 3: where they are right now, or to number ten at 969 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 3: the MAVs. Grady Dick had a last minute workout with 970 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 3: the Pacers. They have the number seven pick, and the 971 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,720 Speaker 3: Nuggets did trade up into the first round. They acquired 972 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 3: picks numbers twenty nine and thirty two from the Pacers 973 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 3: for number forty there so they're in here at the 974 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 3: end of the first round. They're going to try and 975 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 3: get some more young, cheap talent to fill out the 976 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 3: rest of their roster, try and find another Christian Brown 977 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 3: or Watson and something like that. As they move forward 978 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 3: and try and repeat the Ringer. They had their NBA 979 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 3: Draft entrance survey. They had some fun questions I thought 980 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 3: in it, So I pulled a few your answers, guys, 981 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 3: TK get a started here. Which draft prospect are you 982 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 3: irrationally obsessed with? Who do you love? 983 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 4: Well, Okay, I'm gonna throw this one out there. Obviously, 984 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 4: Victor Webbanyama is very exciting. So I feel like, yeah, 985 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 4: I'm loving every single detail I hear about this guy's life. 986 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 4: Brian Winhorse was just on the Bill Simmons podcast basically 987 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 4: like talking about Vic's background. Apparently it's like buddies with 988 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 4: Michael Douglas the actor. 989 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 3: The actor, he's like. 990 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 4: Seventies, but they're like close friends or something like that. 991 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 4: The trainer that trained Victor Wembanyama showed him pistol pete 992 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 4: and and won mixtapes to build his handle, Like those 993 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 4: are the coolest videos that I've ever existed in basketball. 994 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 4: So I'm loving, like every detail I'm hearing about this guy. 995 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 3: Already, he did say too, I thought of you task 996 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 3: Did you see the clip where he uh weemen Yama 997 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 3: was at some school They brought him in a bunch 998 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 3: of kids were getting them to ask questions and a 999 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 3: little girl got up, how tall are you? He said? 1000 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 3: I knew I was gonna get this. He said he's 1001 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 3: seventy three. Yeah, really he's stuck with seven three. He 1002 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 3: didn't say some four the seven five we're hearing that's 1003 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 3: what Vic said. 1004 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: I thought he'd give it in centimeters, like like a 1005 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,720 Speaker 1: good metricsis Yeah, so is he pulling a Kevin Durant 1006 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: doesn't want to say he's seven to five is a 1007 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,959 Speaker 1: new seven foot but I agree. I didn't think i'd 1008 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 1: like him anymore, but hearing him talk do everything, he 1009 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: was cool on the JJ Redick podcast. 1010 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 3: He's cool. 1011 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: He's wise, behind his beyond his ears. So it's not 1012 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: surprising that he's buddies with Michael Douglas. 1013 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 4: What what So weird? But yeah, also very funny. Hearing 1014 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,240 Speaker 4: Brian Woodhorst describe Victor Wemeron as cool. 1015 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 5: I don't know how to say it. 1016 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 3: He's just cool, but you know it's it's true, like 1017 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 3: to be that tall and also be cool. It's pretty rare, 1018 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,399 Speaker 3: you know, like Andrea Brannani was not cool. I would 1019 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 3: not say porzingis is cool. I mean, yao, Ming is 1020 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 3: cool in a different way, but not really cool as 1021 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 3: a personality. Uh, you know, Sean Bradley, know, you know, 1022 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 3: you go through the list. I don't know how cool 1023 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,240 Speaker 3: Mark Eaton was. Ralph Sampson, I think he's. 1024 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 5: Cool. 1025 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 3: That's a good one. It's a good one. 1026 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, the real combination of height, end, cool and talent. 1027 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 4: As for other prospects that are out there, Cason Wallace 1028 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 4: is the one for me, Kentucky point guard. I think 1029 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 4: he's fourteenth on Sam Vestini's big board the Athletic. He's six', 1030 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 4: three he's got a six nine. Wingspan he plays exactly 1031 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 4: Like Drew. Holliday AND i don't know what's happened to, 1032 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,720 Speaker 4: me BUT i Saw Cason wallace take A Drew holiday 1033 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 4: bump defensively AND i was, LIKE i love this, guy 1034 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 4: you know, Where like he just slides his, feet gets 1035 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 4: in the, way gets bumped, back but he has enough 1036 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,439 Speaker 4: quickness and enough hand eye coordination to actually like poke 1037 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 4: at the. BALL i was, Like, damn Only Drew holiday 1038 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 4: does that in THE. Nba it's pretty rare, skill, uh 1039 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 4: And wallace is able to do. It he's, inconsistent it, 1040 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 4: seems uh as a scorer and as a shooter, perhaps 1041 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 4: which is also kind Of Drew holiday. Themed so that's 1042 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 4: a Guy i'm big on WHO i think it's going 1043 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 4: to do well in THE nba because all Those kentucky guards. 1044 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 3: Do, yeah that's a good. Point who do you got? 1045 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 3: TASKS i THINK i know your, answer unless you're gonna 1046 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 3: swerve and go somewhere. 1047 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: Else oh, No i'm not. Going come, on we got 1048 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: to plant our. 1049 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 3: Flag we are the biggest of the other guys on the. 1050 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: Planet oh, yes we absolutely invited to the to. 1051 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 3: The green room. Tonight what up with? That? Huh why 1052 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 3: does he mean he's? 1053 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: Dropping, no because he's so. Cool he's got a bigger 1054 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: party that he's, throwing a bigger party than the draft. 1055 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: Party he's filling Out Scotia Bank arena In, toronto twenty. Thousand. 1056 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 1: Cool they haven't released it, yet but it's like one 1057 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,760 Speaker 1: of those secret parties he's. From everybody's getting an emails 1058 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: From he's from The toronto. AREA i. 1059 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 3: Think, so, OKAY i thought you're gonna go Letter, mill but. 1060 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: We Love oh, yeah we just don't know if he's. 1061 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: GONNA i want to go with a lottery pick because 1062 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 1: it's highly unlikely he's going to be picked in the, 1063 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 1: lottery even though he. Should he might you, know. 1064 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 5: You know the thunder the on The vassini. 1065 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 3: Board oh, okay where are you going? 1066 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 5: There? 1067 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: YEAH i could see cube and even reaching it. Ten 1068 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,720 Speaker 1: that would be, crazy but we used to have Lamar. 1069 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: Otim let's get him again. Anyway Taylor hendricks at nineteen year. 1070 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: Old you, know he's perfect for THE. Nba just super, 1071 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: long defend multiple. Positions he's flowing up the draft. Boards 1072 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: he just seems really, really really down to. EARTH i 1073 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: just loved him in his. Interviews really, AFTERWARDS i saw 1074 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: him interviewed by the who is that Mister jass that's 1075 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: interviewing everybody for THE nba Account Tristan tristan jazz pickup, Baller, 1076 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: yes the trick shot, artist pearls for. Days, anyways he's asking, 1077 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: people you, know random. Questions and this, guy this, guy when, 1078 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,959 Speaker 1: asked what are you going to do with your first? 1079 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: Check he, said, well the thing is you got to 1080 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: live below your. Means you got to talk to a financial. 1081 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: Advisor and they're giving us all of these great resources 1082 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: at THE. 1083 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 6: Nba so this, guy come, man he's. Smart come, on, 1084 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 6: MAN i like this, guy little. MAN i don't know 1085 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 6: that flag for. Me, Okay Hendrix. 1086 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: Hendricks it looks, Good i'll, swerve Then i'll. 1087 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 3: Swearve i'm gonna go with one of the older. GUYS 1088 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 3: i think in the draft WHO i have you, know 1089 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 3: become a rationally obsessed with Him Hawkes JUNIOR ucla guard. 1090 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:17,879 Speaker 1: Man. 1091 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 3: Cool, look he is, old but who. Cares that means 1092 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 3: he's gonna come, in probably into a rotation right, away 1093 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 3: and he's gonna. Contribute you can see it. NOW i 1094 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 3: don't know who the squad will be that takes, him but, 1095 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 3: MAN i, apparently like all accounts to this gets like 1096 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,399 Speaker 3: me all, going like in all these workouts where they've 1097 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 3: brought him in with other, prospects he like. Dominates he 1098 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 3: kicks all their asses and was, like oh, JESUS i 1099 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 3: think he's twenty two years. Old that's, yeah part of, 1100 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 3: IT i, KNOW i, know but still he still lighten them. 1101 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 3: Up So i'm in on. HIM i can't wait to 1102 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 3: see who takes. Him he's probably gonna go probably at 1103 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 3: the end of the first. Round, yeah maybe he falls 1104 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 3: into the second, round doesn't matter whoever picks him. UP 1105 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 3: i think he will like probably help out right. Away 1106 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 3: and he does look cool. Too he's oh, yeah, yeah 1107 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 3: exactly it looks. 1108 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 5: Evil it does look. Evil it looks like evil gone. 1109 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 4: Good, yes, yeah like third act of the Movie evil. 1110 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: Guy he's. 1111 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 5: Turned it's all. 1112 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 3: Good So i'm in on him all. Right next, question 1113 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 3: what is a DREAM uh player team? Pairing like a 1114 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 3: dream prospect team. Pairing you're gonna love. 1115 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 4: THIS i Want Hima Hawkes junior to go to The 1116 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,439 Speaker 4: Denver nuggets twenty. Third LIKE i said on The vassini big, 1117 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 4: board The nuggets have twenty, nine thirty, two and thirty, 1118 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 4: seven so they could maybe see If hotkez falls to, 1119 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 4: them or package a couple of those in trade up 1120 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 4: if they're really interested in. Him he's, slow he is 1121 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 4: a slow, forward but he's got. Skills he's a definite 1122 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 4: jack of all, trades master of, none kind of, typer 1123 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 4: but one of. 1124 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 3: The jacks he. 1125 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 4: Has what one of the skills he, Has, YEAH i don't. 1126 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 5: KNOW i don't know which it. 1127 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 3: Is, yeah the. 1128 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 4: Trades one of the trades he. Has he trades in BASKETBALL. 1129 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 4: Iq and if you got BASKETBALL, iq you fit next 1130 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 4: To Nicola. Jokic everybody. Fits that's The Nicola. Jokic but 1131 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 4: if you can handle a little, bit, pass a little, 1132 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 4: bit cut a little bit you will be. 1133 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 5: Successful SO i think that's a nice. 1134 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 1: Match, okay they got Their Bruce brown. Replacement, uh there you. 1135 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: Go so. Uh another common one Is Derek lively to 1136 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: The Dallas. Mavericks everyone's, saying just a monstrous big was 1137 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: brought in to do a lot of workouts, there and 1138 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: he's talking the right game right. Now he's been asked 1139 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 1: how you fit on that. Team i'm just there to 1140 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 1: set picks For luca and set picks For. Kyrie SO 1141 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 1: i mean the fit is almost too obvious if The 1142 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: Dallas mavericks want this. GUY i Know Dwight powell has 1143 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,919 Speaker 1: got a lot of, promise BUT i think we got 1144 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: a they've got a that was a joke for, you but, 1145 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: anyway you were all busy. Anyway so, Actually Dwight pealell's 1146 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: got a lot of, promise but they should bring In Derek. 1147 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 1: LIVELY i want to say, THAT i want. 1148 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 4: TO i want to new it still feels Like Dwight 1149 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 4: powell's and is yet early twenties twenty four maybe. 1150 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 1: Well Mark cuban once said That Dwight powell and he 1151 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: was traded along With raj And rondo to The Dallas 1152 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 1: mavericks that's who he came in, for which is seems 1153 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: really weird to say, that but he, was you, know 1154 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 1: with The. Celtics but he got traded there and they, 1155 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: said what's what's so good about your game To Dwight 1156 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: powell And cuban kind of interrupted and he, said let 1157 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 1: me take this for. Him he's a stretch. Five he 1158 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 1: can he can be a stretch five out. There he was. 1159 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: Showed he showed promise back. Then, Yeah Derek, lively he 1160 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: doesn't shoot, it uh the first stretch, five but he 1161 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: could just do the things that The MAVs, want as, 1162 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: in never shoot. Again he just just set picks For, 1163 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: kyrie uh if he's, there and Luka doncic AND i 1164 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 1: just want a new way of Spelling derek D E 1165 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: R e C. K, Hello i'm not ready for that 1166 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: spell that is not. READY i THOUGHT i knew the 1167 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: way to Spell, derek and Then Derek rose comes in 1168 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: and now this, Guy, yeah it's gonna be. Tough my 1169 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: phone's not ready for. 1170 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 3: This it's a lively Will lively way to spell. There for, 1171 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,280 Speaker 3: Sure i'll go WITH i got a couple answers one 1172 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 3: AND i think it is gonna happen it feels like 1173 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 3: almost the lock of THE Nba draft, Tonight Amen thompson 1174 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 3: going at four To. Houston JUST i love the. FIT 1175 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 3: i love the idea Of thompson Alongside jail And. Green 1176 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 3: that's a cool ass. Backcourt it's probably not gonna win 1177 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,280 Speaker 3: a lot of games there in you're one For, udoka 1178 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 3: but that's. Fine you could obviously see the potential of 1179 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 3: a backcourt like. That BUT i, MEAN i also got 1180 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 3: to hope that if he's still, there which he probably will, 1181 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,720 Speaker 3: Be he's not even in the green. Room If Leonard 1182 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 3: miller's there at twelve for The, thunder pick him. Up 1183 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,800 Speaker 3: get Another canadian on the squad and come On Sga Dort. 1184 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,280 Speaker 3: Miller it's. WORKING i think he can slot in there nicely, 1185 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 3: too and his skill set with that, squad So i'd 1186 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 3: love to see. IT i really just hope he goes 1187 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 3: in the, lottery But i'm starting to feel like he's. 1188 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 3: Not it's really weird that he wasn't invited because there's 1189 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 3: like thirty names. Invited it's like a lot of guys 1190 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 3: he's sitting around there for a while. 1191 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 1: Time he's, cool, Man he's got other things to. 1192 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 3: Do you think they hold. On so you're telling me 1193 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 3: they Invited Leonard miller and he. Declined he's like too. 1194 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: Cool you think they. Didn't that's that's the weird. Thing they. Didn't, 1195 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 1: Wow but they're invited like a lot of. People, yeah 1196 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,439 Speaker 1: well guys way lower than. Him they're gonna get picked Way. 1197 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 3: NO i, KNOW i, know man. Strange maybe he doesn't 1198 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 3: have his. PASSPORT i don't. 1199 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: Know we, saw that's. 1200 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 3: True he was on my work. 1201 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 4: Visa they had to go back THE T league season was. 1202 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 3: Over you didn't know. 1203 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 5: THAT i can't get another one until he gets drafted 1204 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 5: to a. 1205 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 3: Team all, RIGHT a couple more questions. Here what trade 1206 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 3: do you want to see? Tonight how about? IT? Tk 1207 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 3: what do you like to see you go? 1208 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 4: Down it seems, unlikely nigh on, impossible But i'd love 1209 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 4: to see The rockets somehow find a way to trade 1210 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 4: up to number five so they can draft Both thompson 1211 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 4: back to back four and. Five they got the twenty 1212 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 4: pick in this year's draft from The. Clippers they could 1213 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,919 Speaker 4: offer a future. First they've got a few of those 1214 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,439 Speaker 4: hanging around might not be part of their future going. 1215 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 5: Forward Usman. 1216 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 3: Garuba if The. 1217 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,359 Speaker 4: Pistons are really wanting some, Defense tari, EASTAID i don't 1218 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 4: think they're coming off it, well Like i'm, saying it's pretty. Unlikely, 1219 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 4: yeah but it would be very cool to see those 1220 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 4: two on the same, team like growing together and playing 1221 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 4: in THE. Nba but The rockets pretty soon here are 1222 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 4: going to be trying to win basketball games and having 1223 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,920 Speaker 4: two super raw guys as you as your leaders is 1224 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 4: probably a tough way to do. 1225 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 5: That, okay it would be. 1226 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 3: Cool that's a trade you want to. See, yeah not maybe, 1227 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 3: one we will. See what about? 1228 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: You we're talking? Cool what About koolabali to The Toronto. 1229 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: RAPTORS i hope The raptors they may be able to 1230 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 1: get him at. Thirteam but if they, can if they 1231 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 1: know they want to get in on the cool. SWEEPSTAKES 1232 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: i mean he's he's cool By osmosis because he played 1233 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: with Victor Ian. Banyama trade up to the, twelfth eleven 1234 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: pick wherever they have to. 1235 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 3: Get what about those rumors that The spurs want. HIM 1236 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 3: i want to play two of them. Together Get Michael 1237 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 3: douglas running the. POINT i Think Michael douglas can. HOOP 1238 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 3: i think he's ever touched the. 1239 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 4: BAT i think he would be one of the first 1240 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 4: guys to get a flagrant foul for flopping because he's 1241 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 4: always falling. 1242 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 5: Down oh. 1243 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: NICE i was, waiting BUT i was gonna see what 1244 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: movies you're gonna go. 1245 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,919 Speaker 5: WITH i was excited you got. 1246 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 3: There, yeah, Thanks. 1247 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah that makes. Sense they've they've always been an international. 1248 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: Squad why don't we just run an international team out, 1249 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 1: there guys that have played. Together, yeah let's do. It 1250 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 1: but uh, yeah the cool. Factor everybody wants cool OF 1251 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: bali the. 1252 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 3: One trade we want to see. Tonight come, on it's 1253 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 3: got to be the number three pick getting moved From. Portland, 1254 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 3: yes will it happened at This at this, POINT i 1255 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 3: feel like, no, Unfortunately but, man that's the one we 1256 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 3: want to see because it'll be really weird after tonight 1257 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 3: if they just Take Scoot henderson And Damian lillard still 1258 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 3: there and then they're just going to Resign grant And. Cool, 1259 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 3: NO i hope. NOT i hope. Not it'd be fun 1260 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 3: if it's a big, blockbuster, obviously if It's, zion if 1261 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 3: It's All star, trade, man something something big to pair 1262 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 3: With Damian lillard and for that other team to get 1263 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 3: possibly A scoot at number three and maybe A simons 1264 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 3: or Is sharp. INCLUDED i, MEAN i wouldn't want to 1265 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 3: move off. Him IF i over The, Blazers i'd want 1266 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 3: to keep. Him but you, know if It's, zion then 1267 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 3: you're got to ask yourself is that worth? It SO 1268 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 3: i want to see. THAT i don't. Know it felt 1269 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 3: like it was gonna happen for a, while and now 1270 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 3: it feels less and less likely it's gonna. Happen but 1271 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 3: that's how we sort of go with these. 1272 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 4: Things the screens are smoking are smoking this, week which 1273 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 4: would be a bigger deal If zion gets traded anywhere 1274 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 4: likely to The, blazers or If Damian lillard gets traded 1275 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 4: away from The. Blazers top seventy five guy all, time 1276 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 4: top five hyped guy coming into THE nba all, TIME 1277 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 4: i think it's. 1278 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 3: DAM i think it would Be dane because like the 1279 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 3: hypothetical of him being, moved be it To, miami To New, orleans, 1280 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 3: whatever whatever squad he's going, to it's like they could 1281 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 3: Be he could make them a championship. Contender good. Point, 1282 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 3: whereas even If zion were to come to The blazers, 1283 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 3: tonight are we gonna be here tomorrow? Morning Going Blazers 1284 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 3: upper they're gonna take down The. NUGGETS i don't think 1285 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 3: we would. Be it makes them, better BUT i don't 1286 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 3: think they've become automatically a top five championship. Contender that's my. 1287 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 3: Opinion Like zion And dame you, THINK. 1288 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 4: I, KNOW i think the resulting team Of lillard getting 1289 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 4: traded definitely will be better than If zion was Joining. 1290 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 4: Lillard BUT i think That zion being traded as a 1291 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 4: number one, pick as a guy who was like seen 1292 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 4: as a generational superstar coming INTO i think that's a 1293 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 4: bigger transaction just out, there trading a number one pick 1294 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 4: this early in his, career especially a guy that we've 1295 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 4: seen dominate when he's on the. COURT i don't know 1296 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 4: it'd be like And be getting traded kind of after 1297 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 4: His rookie of The year season when he played thirty 1298 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 4: one games in three years or. 1299 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 3: Whatever, yeah it's. 1300 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 1: True i'd say bigger immediate basketball impact Is, lillard but 1301 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 1: bigger internet Packed. Zion there's gonna be some some crazy 1302 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 1: tweets flying around, Here Zion, williamson you know from a 1303 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 1: lot of different. 1304 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 3: People final question one RANDOM nba draft. Prediction what do 1305 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 3: you got. 1306 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 5: The hornets Take Scoot henderson Over Brandon. Miller here we, 1307 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 5: Go here we. Go the mocks say, No the mocks say. 1308 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 5: No and guess. 1309 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 4: WHAT i went back and checked last, year every mock 1310 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 4: Had Jabari smith as number. One Sam vessini sixty before the, 1311 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 4: Draft Jabari smith number. One woes the day of the 1312 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 4: draft was saying it is locked in, one, two, Three 1313 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 4: and all the quotes you see About houston last year 1314 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 4: are the exact same as they are About charlotte this. 1315 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 4: Year we have no idea where these leaks are coming. 1316 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 4: From this is usually a very tight lipped front, office 1317 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 4: but suddenly we know their plans and it's not to 1318 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 4: take the guy that people see as the. Superstar m 1319 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 4: seems strange to. Me why would you not take the 1320 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 4: guy who has like looked at as a franchise talent 1321 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 4: just because you have another guard there figured? OUT i, think, 1322 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 4: UH i think this is a big smoke. Screen so 1323 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 4: gimme it at number. 1324 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 1: Two, okay, okay that's a good. PREDICTION i hope that's the. 1325 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: Case you go with the best player. PERIOD i see 1326 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: a surprise guest When Adam silver announces the number ten. 1327 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: Pick with the tenth, pick The Dallas mavericks Select Leonard 1328 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 1: miller From, Scarborough, Ontario. Canada, Yeah Leonard miller is not here, 1329 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 1: tonight but from the back That's Leonard miller's music and 1330 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 1: he comes out onto the. Stage, yeah no one expected me. 1331 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: HERE i didn't get the. Invite it's Like Brandon jennings showing. 1332 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 5: Up, whoa he's. 1333 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: Here that's my. Prediction he'll be, there, man he'll be. 1334 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 1: There get those visa issues rectified and he'll be. 1335 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 5: There what's his? Music Ocajun it's a barnaked laby. 1336 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 3: Burling down and down white water as, well the Long. 1337 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 3: Diver that's A canadian cut for you. 1338 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 1: Guys that's. Nice, Yeah i'm Going, Scarborough, Ontario. Canada i'm 1339 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 1: going IF i had a, million would be drafted into the. 1340 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 3: League you will have a million dollars after. Tonight, more, 1341 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 3: much much, more especially if it goes number, ten maybe even. 1342 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 3: MORE i thought you were gonna, say you, know the 1343 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 3: pick at. Ten suddenly we hear the or the flashes 1344 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 3: on the. Screen we have a. Trade because there's a 1345 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 3: lot of buzz around that tenth pick talk between The 1346 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 3: mavericks and The. Hawks is there some swapping going on 1347 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 3: there in terms of their picks and, Players John. Collins 1348 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 3: that's my. PREDICTION i think The. HAWKS i think The 1349 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 3: hawks are active. 1350 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 1: Tonight they should. 1351 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 3: BE i think they. ARE i think tonight's the night 1352 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 3: here where they finally make a sort of a move 1353 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 3: with one of their bigs here Like capella Or, collins 1354 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 3: and wear that fifteenth. Pick that'll be my. 1355 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 1: Predictions trey Mentioned Travis schlank, earlier what he did to that. 1356 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 1: Roster you, know looking at it, now IT'S i Know 1357 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: Quinn snyder's GONNA i THINK i believe In Quinn snyder 1358 01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 1: doing well with that. Roster but you just look up 1359 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: down where guys are, paid how much they're paid for 1360 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 1: a mediocre. Team trey getting, forty and then guys in 1361 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,280 Speaker 1: the twenties And collins And capella And DeAndre hunter And 1362 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: bogdanovich just getting. Paid they've got to get off. Something 1363 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 1: and The capella one to The maps makes so much, 1364 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: SENSE i, think more so than The John. Collins just 1365 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 1: get really big and defensive and then just play A 1366 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 1: yaka And Kong wu already SO i see that move. 1367 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 3: Happening all, Right, well we'll be live TONIGHT Apm eastern on. 1368 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,880 Speaker 3: Playback hit that link in the show. Notes join Our 1369 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 3: nodunk's room on playback and then we'll be live later. 1370 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 3: Tonight let's get to tweet of the. 1371 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 1: Night tweet out the. Night wow tweeted. 1372 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 3: The night from AT Fos Front Office sports yesterday out of. 1373 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 3: Nowhere the twenty twenty FOUR Nba All Star Saturday night 1374 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 3: will be held at The Colts Lucas Oil stadium with 1375 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 3: thirty five thousand seats around the. Court we have a 1376 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 3: pick here for everybody on YouTube of sort, of you, 1377 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 3: know an illustration of what it would look like there 1378 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 3: in The Lucas Oil Stadium Game Bridge. Fieldhouse so The 1379 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 3: pacers actual arena that'll host The All Star. Game So 1380 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 3: saturday night in the football Stadium, sunday the game in 1381 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 3: The Pacers. 1382 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 1: Arena, yeah like what happened In New york with The 1383 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 1: brooklyn and THE msg. 1384 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 3: Scenario, WELL i, mean, yes two different, venues but one 1385 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:32,960 Speaker 3: not a gigantic Football. 1386 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah oh, yeah this. One i'm not excited about. It 1387 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 1: i'm not excited about a. Curtain there's a. 1388 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 4: Curtain, yeah well, yeah you gotta getta there's the other 1389 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 4: half of the arena is for, concerts, right that's a 1390 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 4: stage for. 1391 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 5: Concerts so it's gonna be half. 1392 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,440 Speaker 1: Empty, no there's gonna BE i think there's gonna be a. Concert, 1393 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 1: really there's gonna be a concert on the other, Side 1394 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,240 Speaker 1: like there's gonna be A saturday night, concert which they 1395 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,439 Speaker 1: kind of already do they did this year With Jack. 1396 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 1: Carlow right. 1397 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 5: On that. Side you can't see what's. 1398 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 1: Happening, NO i think it's like two separate. AUDIENCES i 1399 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 1: think they're gonna separate. It and whoa they had twenty 1400 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,160 Speaker 1: One savage right And Jack harlow. 1401 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 3: Perform, yeah so you think you'll have a ticket to, 1402 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 3: that and then they'll put it up on the obviously 1403 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 3: the jumbo tron or whatever that you'll be able to 1404 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 3: watch the festivit he's happening on the other side of the. 1405 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 1: CURTAIN i guess maybe it just looks right, Right it 1406 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 1: looks really. Weird the curtain looks really. Strange, yeah that's 1407 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 1: all That's. 1408 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 3: I'm just, Terrified like we already hate The Dunk contest 1409 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 3: as it, is and now we're going to have thirty 1410 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 3: five thousand. People hope they bring. It we need some 1411 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 3: big names to go in this thing in twenty twenty 1412 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 3: four or this is gonna be. 1413 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 5: Brutal we need A thompson. 1414 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 3: Twin we need we need all of, them, Man, yeah 1415 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,920 Speaker 3: we need both all The. Rooks they gotta go in 1416 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 3: every single. 1417 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 4: One if you're In, MAN i wish they just had 1418 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 4: it in The fieldhouse for both. EVENTS i don't know 1419 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 4: if you guys have, been but for, ME i have 1420 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 4: every stadium in THE. Nba it's one of the, Coolest 1421 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 4: like it feels old. School it's built like after a. 1422 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 4: Barn you can go and like see The pacers practice 1423 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 4: court from the. Stadium it's really really, cool really tight to. 1424 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 4: It it's only like eighteen thousand seats or something like. That, 1425 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 4: nice which is really why the league is doing this 1426 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 4: to get more people in there For saturday. Night and, 1427 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 4: MAN i think it would be a big dut if 1428 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,640 Speaker 4: they played the game in the football stadium and it's 1429 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 4: dead in the arena for that night, Anyways so if 1430 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 4: they played that in a huge football, stadium that would be. 1431 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 5: Bad BUT i wish they were just at The Pacers. 1432 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 5: Stadium yeah for This. 1433 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh WHEN i first read this, TWEET i was 1434 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 3: so confused by the hold, On we're Doing saturday night 1435 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 3: in the football stadium and then, yeah Not, Sunday we're 1436 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 3: going back to The Pacers arena and, like, YEAH i 1437 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 3: was really really just weird it out by. That but, 1438 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 3: man we gotta pray That All Star Saturday night is a. 1439 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 3: Banger they need to have whoever the musical performances has 1440 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 3: to be huge because they got a whole goddamn concert. 1441 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 3: Setup we need the dunk contrast to be lights, Out 1442 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 3: we need a great three point. Contest we might need 1443 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 3: some new. Events you might as well try it here 1444 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 3: with thirty five thousand people. There but, yeah, OTHERWISE i 1445 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,440 Speaker 3: guess the game On. SUNDAY i have never been To, 1446 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 3: indianapolis And i've heard nothing but great things about. Arena for, 1447 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 3: sure it's very. Cool, yeah where are the where's the 1448 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 3: location of these? Places? Like is the football? Stadium like 1449 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 3: you know they are? 1450 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 5: DOWNTOWN i, think, oh they're Both. 1451 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 4: OKAY i don't know about where they are, though BUT 1452 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 4: i do Like John shuman's a suggestion, here put The 1453 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 4: Thompson twins in the dunk contest and then they have 1454 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,760 Speaker 4: The Thompson twins do the concert on good. 1455 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 3: Stuff, Shuman you're gonna like a short we got coming 1456 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 3: later this. Week Nice Thompson twins. Reference none of those 1457 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 3: people in the band Named. Thompson definitely not. Twins they're. 1458 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 5: Not none of them are Named. 1459 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 3: Thompson, shuman you can correct me If i'm. WRONG i 1460 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 3: don't think. So in, FACT i THINK i Saw hollinger 1461 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,559 Speaker 3: say that To, shuman and Then schumann's response, was, yeah 1462 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,799 Speaker 3: there were a lot of police officers in the police. 1463 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 3: Too i'm pretty. Sure let me know if you did. 1464 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 3: That i'm pretty SURE i saw. That that's. 1465 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:57,440 Speaker 1: Right we saw An All star game in a football, stadium. 1466 01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 3: Right, yeah we saw the In, Dallas, alicia would you 1467 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 3: say it was? 1468 01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,519 Speaker 1: Good this is just Being, no the concert was. Good 1469 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,559 Speaker 1: they had the same, Time, alicia sounded. Great we just 1470 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 1: went and. 1471 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 3: Saw The Final four in a football stadium In. Houston it's. 1472 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 3: Big it's. Horrible it's not. 1473 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:17,720 Speaker 1: Good we had like basketball and football stadium. 1474 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 3: And we couldn't. See, shit you're so far. 1475 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: Away, YEAH i watched basketball in a baseball. Stadium skydom wasn't. Good, No, yeah, usually, 1476 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 1: yeah you're. Not you're not there for the basketball, Though 1477 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 1: you're just there for the. 1478 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 3: Appos, yeah this IS i, mean this almost makes more 1479 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 3: sense to do it for The saturday. Night oh, yeah instead, 1480 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,080 Speaker 3: of like you, said the, game which is already like 1481 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 3: a bit of like a so all right, Anyway, yeah. 1482 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 1: The curtain weirds me. Out you guys did the dunk 1483 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,880 Speaker 1: contest AND i guess it was twenty fourteen or twenty 1484 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: seventeen In New. Orleans it was in the Super dome 1485 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,040 Speaker 1: and there's curtains all over the seventeen. Curtains don't like these. 1486 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 3: Curtains And San antonio feels like they used to have 1487 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 3: a curtain in their old. Stadium, yeap what did they call, 1488 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,439 Speaker 3: that The Alema? Dome? Yeah, right oh, yeah that's when 1489 01:09:58,439 --> 01:09:59,600 Speaker 3: they did the seventy thousand plus or. 1490 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,639 Speaker 1: Whatever it's when you had great views from telescopes miles. Away, 1491 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,719 Speaker 1: yeah it's just the curtain feels like you're in grade. 1492 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 1: School let's let's section it. 1493 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 3: Off you, know well you would like to see, them 1494 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,519 Speaker 3: then just go come. On if you're gonna do, this 1495 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 3: let's pack that thing to the. Gills sixty thousand plus 1496 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:18,719 Speaker 3: to see AN. A thompson. 1497 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 1: DUNK i don't mind. IT i don't mind separating the. 1498 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 1: Concert it probably means it's a little more. Timely you, 1499 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 1: know things can move a little. Faster because last Year 1500 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 1: Jack harlow was talking and talking and talking and we're 1501 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 1: just waiting for the basketball to. 1502 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 3: Happen can you go back to the photo real, QUICK. 1503 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 3: JD i don't know if you have it. THERE i 1504 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,759 Speaker 3: did laugh at, this like a little attention to. Detail 1505 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,760 Speaker 3: you notice THE nba ON. Tnt you can see the 1506 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 3: desk right, there the set in the. Corner, yeah the. 1507 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 3: COURT i was, like, oh, nice we will have a. 1508 01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,640 Speaker 4: DESK i also like that they put some musician on 1509 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 4: the jumbo tron on the on the side of the. 1510 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 5: Concert it looks like a bass. 1511 01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:01,040 Speaker 1: Guitar, cool we will have a Base easter. 1512 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 3: Egg who's the, biggest, uh you, know from the state Of, 1513 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 3: indiana musical. 1514 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 5: Artist John Cougar. MELLENCAMP i THINK i think he's From. 1515 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 5: Indiana Little, Diddy. 1516 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Kelly dwyer do, it come, on, Shred, yeah there's A 1517 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,680 Speaker 1: i was looking at the photo with my daughter and she, 1518 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,760 Speaker 1: said what are those? Dots AND i, said those are, 1519 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 1: people people paid their, seats who paid a lot of. 1520 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 1: Money but, yeah we, were we were examining. It she was, 1521 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 1: confused why there's, dots butts are. People those dots are. 1522 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 1: People all, right let's wrap this bad boy. 1523 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,759 Speaker 3: Up, guys thank you so much for joining. Us tonight 1524 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,880 Speaker 3: join us on PLAYBACK. Ppm you sure have stopped that 1525 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 3: a million times by, now so hit the link in 1526 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,439 Speaker 3: the show notes get into The Not dunks playback. Room 1527 01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:01,680 Speaker 3: what do you? 1528 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 4: GOT i found a more famous musician From, indiana a 1529 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:06,439 Speaker 4: guy by the name Of Michael. 1530 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:14,799 Speaker 5: Jackson Oh, Gary Gary motown started In. 1531 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,000 Speaker 3: Indianapolis they're they're From, Gary. 1532 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:21,320 Speaker 1: Indiana, yeah great, call good. Call yeah you knew that 1533 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 1: as soon as you Said. Indiana gary definitely forgot so. 1534 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 3: Hologram, John, yeah, yeah you're, Right you're, Right. John all, right, 1535 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 3: guys we'll see it tonight and then we will be 1536 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 3: back tomorrow with The Drop. Podcast you, know we're doing 1537 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 3: winners and losers from THE Nba draft and probably or 1538 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 3: hopefully fingers crossed reacting to some trades. Tonight so let's 1539 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 3: talk about on Tomorrow's Drop. Podcast until tonight, Though Cliver, 1540 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 3: rose he froze. 1541 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,080 Speaker 5: Bros he's pretty here, first have a great, time turn, 1542 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 5: Up love you. 1543 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 1: Guys, Awesome Thanks, Clipper, bro and thank you for joining. 1544 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 5: Us. 1545 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Sam REMEMBER i think Jan jackson is going to perform as. 1546 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 1: Well she puts on a good show still to this. 1547 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,240 Speaker 3: Day people love. It embrace the. Day people