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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Caitlin here. I just wanted to give you

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Speaker 1: a quick intro to the episode you're about to hear

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Speaker 1: on the movie Anastasia. We recorded it live as Jamie's

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Speaker 1: But otherwise it's a damn fine episode and we hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy cast questions, ask movies have women? And are

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Welcome to the bec deel Cat Welcome.

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Speaker 1: I just context for everyone. I just got a six

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Speaker 1: pack of Mike's hard watermelon. Thank you. That's just proof

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Speaker 1: This has got to be real bad, right this is

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming to be here for for Jamie's

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Speaker 1: Birthday show. It feels like we're and we're caught and

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Speaker 1: we're recording it. It's not my birthday for a month,

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Speaker 1: pretty close to your birthday. Yeah, so suspend your disbelief,

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Speaker 1: don't cancel me. It's not necessarily my actual birthday, but

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Speaker 1: real takeaway. So we're doing one of my one of

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Speaker 1: let's get some business out of the way first. My

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Speaker 1: name is Caitlin. My name is Jamie. We talked about

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Speaker 1: the representation of women in movies on this here podcast

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Speaker 1: don't know, I can answer a question. The Bechdel test

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Speaker 1: Let's let's demonstrate it. Okay, Hey Jamie Caitlin, I got

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Speaker 1: This isn't what if I was like, I love it,

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Speaker 1: I won't leave home without it ever again. Um, that

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Speaker 1: Who has seen the movie Anastasia? Okay, good? Is there

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Speaker 1: Kesey Grammar is glad please, Kelsey Remer is flad again?

416
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: Really weird accent choices that's a no for me. Bad

417
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: accent hard, Yes, okay. I would have loved him as

418
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: Recipe and actually yeah yeah, um as that guy um

419
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 1: you know who cares fine? Okay, okay, because he's like

420
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: a little sneaky and has wild facial hair and I'm

421
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: sure sure he's His character is confusing to me for

422
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: a number of reasons, mainly because he's like, I'm a

423
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: con man, and then it's a twist later that he

424
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: used to work for the tsar, but then it's like,

425
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: well that's not good. And then at the end he

426
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: kind of just gets his job back even though there's

427
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: not a tzar like. It's confusing. Christopher Lloyd as Rescipues

428
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: Hard Yes, okay, I think, yes, I think Alfred Milena

429
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: could have done better. Uh. And I think that the

430
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: accent sounds crazy. I don't I don't even know what

431
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: a good Russian accent really sounds like, but it sounds crazy.

432
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 1: The accent leaves much to be desired. Um, however, it's fine. Also, okay,

433
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: hankers Area as the bat. No, I'm gonna know, I'm

434
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: now on the bat. It's going to be in firm No, okay,

435
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: that was That was the people I wanted to because

436
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: his accent sounds like when Russian people try to sound

437
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: American as a joke to point out how stupid Americans sound,

438
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: so like what we would do accents. It would be like, yeah,

439
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: take the baby roll and why not here we go

440
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: to the store of all It's it's like, it's like

441
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: so wild, It's just so weird. It's i mean, really

442
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: like Russian accents for all walks of life in this movie,

443
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: some people not doing one at all. Right, perhaps the

444
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: best Russian accent is the one you don't do. That's

445
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: really jazz. Wow. I hope that Meg Ryan tried to

446
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: do a Russian accent in a few takes and they

447
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: were like, just she's too good at being quirky. It's

448
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: like yeah. And then also, like, I mean, hankers Area

449
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: well known for being really respectful when he's doing voice works.

450
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: Just kidding. There's a whole documentary about it sure is. Yeah,

451
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's who we're working with. There's also additional voices,

452
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: and also Kirsten Duns is Little Anastasia, Lacey Shabet is

453
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: Little Singing Anastasia, and J. K. Simmons is credited as

454
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: additional voices. I was Yeah. When I was rewatching it today,

455
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, where is Yeah? Where is it? I couldn't

456
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: find him. He's that good. He's that good. He disappears

457
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: into the role. You can't. But he's credited in that

458
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: movie as he's just maybe maybe he plays Comrade Fleming cough,

459
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: which is the orphanage lady. I don't know, probably not hot.

460
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: Thank you. So we've got the cast. Should we talk

461
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: about Anastasia the character? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. So

462
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: my kind of objective take since I didn't really grow

463
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: up with this movie, and I feel like it's hard

464
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: not to compare this to Disney movies. They're stealing everything.

465
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: So just to kind of compare Anastasia as a character

466
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: to the like Disney Renaissance princesses of this time, I

467
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: would say overall, Anastasia is just better characterized. She has

468
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: more personality than a lot of them. We know things

469
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: about her like she's offinite. She tends to like push

470
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: back on anyone, like you know, giving her attitude different things.

471
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: She says to Dmitri, stop bosting me around, um, don't

472
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: talk anymore, it's only going to upset me. Uh. And

473
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: then she accidentally punches Demitri in the face like as

474
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: she's waking up, and then she's like, oh, sorry, I

475
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: thought you were someone else. And then she sees it's him.

476
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, wait, it's you. That's okay. Then and

477
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: then he's like, oh, you broke my nose. And then

478
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: like kind of to herself, she's like men her babies,

479
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: So you know, she's feisty, she's fun. She like actually

480
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: tells jokes. She starts like her her actual like journey

481
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: starts because she like decides to, like she leaves the orphanage.

482
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: She knows where she's going. She's sort of like playing

483
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: along with Dmitri and Vlad's planned because she needs to

484
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: get out of the country. So it's not like she's

485
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: not she's not completely convinced that she's Anastatia just because

486
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, just because John Cusack was like you probably are,

487
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: She's like, well, either way, I gotta get out of

488
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: the country. So and then she uh. This was like

489
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: because I wasn't quite sure because I only watched this

490
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: movie when I'm sick, so I rarely see the end

491
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: of it. Um, so I I forgot like how involved

492
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: he is in like the final like big battle with

493
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: Resciput and and I was like a little worried because

494
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: the way that Seaton plays out is that resputed and

495
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's he like throws her to the ground

496
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: and then Dmitri shows up punches Rescipue in the face,

497
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I hope that this isn't like

498
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: one of those battles where she's rescued and she's just

499
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: sort of over there the whole time. But and she's

500
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: over there for a little bit, but he does kind

501
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: of have to like pull her up. It seems like

502
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: she's going to be damseled. But then but then he

503
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: kind of fails to say for a couple of times

504
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: he rescputed and is really kicking him around, and he's

505
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: thrown own to like the side and like passed out.

506
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: And it kind of reminded me of what happens to

507
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: Jasmine and Aladdin. Right, he's literally tossed out of the

508
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: scene and you're like, all that never happens to the

509
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: guy in and then Anastasia gets his and this is

510
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: the big vocabulary word of this movie, reliquary there. I

511
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: had the novelization of this, and I just remember my

512
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: dad really struggling with that word. He's like all the

513
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: minions and reciput and is one. Then really didn't care

514
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: for that. But she stomps on the reliquary three times

515
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: and she kills Resput, and yes, it's exciting. She's like,

516
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: this is for Dmitri, this is for my family, and

517
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: I said for you, and then she crushes it and

518
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: he dies, so yeah, I wasn't. He also turns into

519
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: goop and then dust. It's a very and there's like

520
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: so many things that I like about this that, like

521
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: Disney movies never quite go there, Like they the villain

522
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: always like falls off a off and just like slowly disappears,

523
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: but they're like no, no, no, you're seeing his violent graphic.

524
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: When you die, you turn into goop and then dust.

525
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: But there's like he's a skeleton at some point in

526
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: between that. It's it's wild. Yeah, he pulls his head off,

527
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: he rips his face off. He's a goof. But I

528
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: did love that, you know, it seems like she might

529
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: be damse old, and that's what happens in all these

530
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: Disney movies. But then yeah, the the tides shift and

531
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: she's the one unlike so Jasmine, she's like cast aside

532
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: for the climax of the story. But she's also not

533
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: the protagonist of that movie aladdins. But even in like

534
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: Bell and Bootying The Beast and Aerial and The Little Mermaid,

535
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: they're the protagonists of those movies, and they still aren't

536
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: even allowed to participate in the climax of their own

537
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: story because it's their male love interests who come and

538
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: save the day. So I loved that Anastasia is the

539
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: one who takes the reins and act really actively defeats

540
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: the villain herself. And it just and it works better

541
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: for this story too, because it's like there's that whole

542
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: like the only reason she knows him is because he

543
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: killed her entire family, right, so if someone else kills him,

544
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, I'm glad he's dead, I guess, right,

545
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: But like she's the one who would want the revenge

546
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: against him. So the fact that she gets the big Cathartic.

547
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: It's an awesome scene. It's the coolest. So there's that.

548
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: There there are a few moments where like she helps Dmitri,

549
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: like on the train scene, like she's an active participant.

550
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: He's still kind of like taking the lead after the

551
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: train starts crashing, like he's kind of doing most of

552
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: the stuff, and then she helps. I do think that

553
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: like that. It feels mostly like a lot of times

554
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: he'll try to do something and then it will fail,

555
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: and then she'll just do it like the correct way.

556
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: Like that happens a couple of different times. I don't

557
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: even know how intentional that was in the writing, but

558
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: it's like kind of fun to see like this, like guy,

559
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: this like macho character over and never be like I've

560
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: got this, and then there's like an explosion in front

561
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: of him. He's like then and then anaesthesia kind of

562
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: takes Russian woman to come in and our work is

563
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: never done. Me. Another thing that this movie doesn't do

564
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: that a lot of Disney movies from this time definitely do,

565
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: is like really over sexualized. It's female character, its main

566
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: character for most of the movie, Anastasia is in like

567
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: this giant coat and then like, you know, she's got

568
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: the hat and the scarf. Still somehow she's like, look,

569
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: it's a good look. It's a very med Bryan look.

570
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: Actually it's very like chunky bangs and like a floppy hat,

571
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: like a clumsy jacket for her to be like just right,

572
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: I would say that, yeah, we see like more of

573
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: Dmitri's body than we do have hers for most of them,

574
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: and that's fine with me, no credit, but like resput

575
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: And and Anastasia are wearing the same outfit from most

576
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: of them, just like a belted sad you know, communism,

577
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: you know why. But then she does get a makeover,

578
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: and there is a shopping montage because say it with me, now,

579
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: women be shopping this movie is there's a whole shopping song.

580
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: They brought in Bernadette Peters to sing the shopping in

581
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: France song. And yeah, it's so weird because it's like

582
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: this movie doesn't like get too into like the Pygmalion

583
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: and like My Fair Lady references, but there's a solid

584
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes where that's all it is. And so it's

585
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: all like random con artists giving women makeovers for sinister purposes.

586
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: I guess at least It's not to make her more

587
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: attractive to the man, it's to make her be able

588
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: to asked as royalty. Yeah. I mean this is like

589
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: one of still one of those movies. I hate to

590
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: admit it, but it is one of those like nineties

591
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: Arrow movies that the central plot is a woman being

592
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: deceived and eventually fucking him. Anyways, Okay, So, because I

593
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: didn't remember this movie at all except for the train,

594
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I see them. They're negging each

595
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: other there. Jamie is opening her Mikes hard watermelon. I

596
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: smell it from over here. I always worried about they're

597
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: twisted up. Mike's is never trying to challenge. You know,

598
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: it's a hard lemonade, but it's not that hard. So anyway,

599
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: they meet each other, you can tell is it horrible?

600
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: And her had the flavor before? This is how is

601
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: it is? It's salty? Salty taste? Salty taste it? Yeah, okay,

602
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: it's overwhelming. Oh it has a really bad after taste.

603
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: May I taste it? Go for it? Salty bad after

604
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: I gotta know mm hmm salty. Oh I will finish

605
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: it bead after taste. Yeah. Story anyway, Okay, So the

606
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: two characters come face to face for the first time,

607
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: Anastasia and Dmitri, and you can tell that they're gonna

608
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: be foisted together into a romantic entanglement. Um even though

609
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: he's an asshole. She knows that he's an asshole. We

610
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: know he's an asshole as the audience. He's nagging her,

611
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: he's treating like ship most of the time, and he's

612
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: also lying to her for a good chunk of the movie. Yes,

613
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: as I'm seeing all this unfold, I said, I bet

614
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: myself ten dollars that they kiss at the end, and

615
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: I won ten dollars. They kiss at the end. They

616
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: do kiss, but it's a hot kiss. So there's that.

617
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: Not to be a dimitri apologist, but there is a

618
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: lot of Okay, so what is like different about this movie?

619
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean, what isn't different about this thing? But the

620
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: way the relationship is between the prince's character and like

621
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: the the guy pursuing her as it's literally a Meg

622
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: Ryan movie, which is why all those weird nineties tropes

623
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: of like being deceived, where normally it's like the princess

624
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: is inactive, the prince has no personality, and somehow there's

625
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: a beginning, middle, and end regardless. But they treat each

626
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: other like rom com characters, and they're like bickering and

627
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: flirting and dancing and almost kissing but then not kissing,

628
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: like it's it's like a night these romcom movie. And

629
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: then I do think that he maybe not to the

630
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: degree he should, but he does change and he's wrong,

631
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: express remorse and then gives her space until she decides

632
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: she wants him back. So it's maybe that's poor judgment

633
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: on on her part, but at least she decided it

634
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: because it was like, you know, when he kidnaps the

635
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: old lady, You're like, I don't know, you know, he's

636
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: maybe he's lawless, and maybe I shouldn't be rooting for him,

637
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: but he doesn't kidnap her in that way. He's an ally.

638
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: There's a there's a moment where Lad says to him,

639
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: um about Anastasia, Oh, she certainly has a mind of

640
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: her own, and then Demitri responds by saying, yeah, I

641
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: hate that in a woman. So but then Anastasia goes

642
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: she sure does, and she sure does on the train,

643
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: and I love that for her. For her, she always

644
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: does have like a really good retort. So that's not

645
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: an example of one, I don't know for yourself. And

646
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: that scene pays off Kelsey Grabber taking out this notebook

647
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: he has where he's keeping score Anya and Dmitri and

648
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: the raspberry does count as a point for it really does.

649
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: Actually it says so much by doing so little. We're like, okay, well,

650
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: I guess she is in the lead. She's in the lead.

651
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: So this is a feminist text. Yes, we read a

652
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: fun fact. Although the credibility of this website was wildly tested,

653
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: it was written by a guy named Nat, and that's

654
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: pretty much all we know about. Even offer up his

655
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: last no, no credentials, just Nat. You know, you know

656
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: how that is, and you know how he gets one

657
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: of the facts. It was like ten facts about right now.

658
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: You know. One of them was just wrong. One of

659
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: them was like it came out the same week as

660
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: a Little Mermaid, and you were like, that was ten

661
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: years before that. Okay, so I read something that that

662
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: person might have meant. So Disney re released The Little

663
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: Mermaid I think like a week before Anastasia came out,

664
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: and then they released a bunch of other stuff the

665
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: week after in a clear attempt to like to bury Anastasia.

666
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: So Nat had a point. Yes, okay, I guess what

667
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: what what was? What's what does he saying? Oh? Well, Nat,

668
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: Nat said this wonderful thing. This, this is a classic Nat.

669
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: He said that Megrian was really trepidacious about doing it,

670
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: and she did not want to do it because it

671
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: was like right after Sleepless in Seattle, and she was like,

672
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to do cartoons. And

673
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: then the animators convinced her, or the director convinced her

674
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: by animating a scene from sleep Listency Dolt. It was

675
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: just like, look, it can exist as an animation and

676
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: still hold it's merit. And then she got to really

677
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: bring her own acting into the piece, and so you

678
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: see a classic migrant trope being acted out. That's why

679
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: it's so real. And I'm pretty sure that's actually true

680
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: that they did do that, even though the credibility of

681
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: the website that was right in ninety seven is a

682
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: good year for this movie to come out, because I

683
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: think that Disney animated movie that year was like Hercules

684
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: or like something that I don't think did well at first.

685
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: I do love those stories where it's so fucked up,

686
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: but whenever Disney tries to just absolutely murder something in

687
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: a really obvious way, and then we're still like, but

688
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: it's fine because my childhood, Like you're like, it's not good,

689
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: it's scary. Yeah. I just still don't like what they

690
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: did to Andy Serkus is Jungle Book movie. I guess

691
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: that's just what I'm saying. They killed Circus with that one.

692
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: Sarcas should be a billionaire. I just sorry, I'm sorry,

693
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: I had two SIPs of a hard just going off.

694
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm acting speaking of things that I found about the

695
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: movie Anastasia that come from my website that is perhaps

696
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: not the most credible. So I don't know how much

697
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 1: validity there is to this different, different way. But Bernardette Peters,

698
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: who voices the character of Sophie the emphasis cousin, cousin, yes, um,

699
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: Bernardette Peters reportedly said that she did not like the

700
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: way her character Sophie was designed because Sophie is plus

701
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: size and she did not apparently want to be represented

702
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: as someone who was plus sized, to which I respond,

703
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,280
Speaker 1: who even knows that Bernardette Peters looks like he shot

704
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: up picture her? Like, No, one's like that doesn't look

705
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: like Bernadette Peters no one knows what that. What I

706
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: love about animation is that they look exactly like the

707
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: person who's voicing them, Like Kelsey Grammer looks exactly just

708
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like looking at the mirror. Right. The

709
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: only example is that Dmitri looks exactly like John Kia

710
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: say yeah, And everyone else looks like guess what a cartoon,

711
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: except for Hankazaria, who looks just like the Bad. He

712
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: does look like the Bad. It's true, a luscious, luscious

713
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: little body, but that brings me I just want to

714
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the way plus sized people

715
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: are presented in this movie. Because Vlad is a big guy,

716
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: he is shown as being like extremely ungraceful most of

717
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: the time. He falls over on the train and like

718
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: that's why he can't help Dmitri, and that's why I

719
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: like Anastasia has to step up and help Demitri with

720
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: the train to Bockle, and then later on there on

721
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: the ship and he like takes the top bunk of

722
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: the bunk beds and it like stinks down so low

723
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: that it like crushes the dog so basically, like his

724
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: weight and his body is like played as a joke.

725
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: Several times. I feel like the same thing happens for

726
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: Um Sophie's character. It's just not good in a movie

727
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: that like doesn't seem to like punch down at anyone

728
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: else really, But yeah, and I think that that is

729
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: like such an older animation trope to that it would

730
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: just be like crazy to not do um and they

731
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: for some reason like choose to like play too, because

732
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: there's a million old cartoons where that happens repeatedly and

733
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: it's not necessary and it's not funny, and it's Yeah,

734
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: it does feel like weirdly out of place in this movie.

735
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: Can I talk about the Titanic parallels? Yes, I have

736
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: the same list, I think, all right here mine and

737
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,959
Speaker 1: let's compare notes a poor guy trying to make money

738
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: in Paris and a woman with red hair coming from

739
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: a rich family and the two of them fall in love.

740
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: The shot on the staircase, the full body shot of

741
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: the dolled up female protagonist on an elegant staircase. That

742
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: was on my list. Okay, I don't have that one.

743
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: The man saving the woman from going overboard on a

744
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: ship a necklace being a pretty big plot point. What

745
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: about the poor guy being dragged out of the room

746
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: being like you don't understand. Oh yeah, that's one. The

747
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: woman has a music box the end. They came out

748
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: the same year. Could it be a coincidence? Who copying? Who? Uh?

749
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: There was also there, Like, so this movie was made

750
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: by Fox Animation. From what you were telling me, this

751
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: is not an animation company that lasts very long. They

752
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: make this movie, it's very successful. They make one every

753
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: other movie. It's dogshit the end. That's the whole history.

754
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: And they're kind of doing I almost thought this was

755
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: a DreamWorks thing, but I don't think, like I think

756
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: this pre dates DreamWorks. But they're doing the DreamWorks thing

757
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: where they're just kind of stealing from Disney movies and

758
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: being like people will think this is a Disney movie.

759
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: And there's so many and that's I think part of

760
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: like why this movie is so good because they steal

761
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: a lot of really good parts from Disney movies that

762
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 1: came out very recently. Where like the rumor in St.

763
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: Petersburg number, which historic, I mean if you look, so

764
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: this takes place in Stalin is in power and this

765
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: is a musical number where the people under Communist Russia

766
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah there's food rations, Yeah, life is really difficult. Yeah,

767
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: we're all suffering. And then the last line before you

768
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: get into the chorus is like, but we love rumors

769
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: and gossip anyways, and then they start to dance about

770
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: rumors and it's so that's true. Yeah, that's actually true. Yeah,

771
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: there's like, yeah, it's really tough about here. Thank God

772
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: for these rumors. What I'm lacking in food, I'm just

773
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: making up for a rumor. It's delicious, your fool. But

774
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: that number looks a lot like the first number and

775
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: Beauty and the Beast where it's also like the peasants

776
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: of this community being like we're the goofs because poor people. Uh,

777
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: what else we've got, like the like female protagonists singing

778
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: her mission. I mean, Anastasia all but sings. I want

779
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: much more than this provincial Yeah, except she actually has

780
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: like motivation. Right, Well, that's the other thing I wanted

781
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: to talk about, Like like in Station Versus a Disney movie,

782
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: is that like and the does happen to some extent

783
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: in Anastasia, but like in like Little Mermaid where she's like,

784
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: oh she loves people culture. Uh, she wants to go

785
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: up where the people are. And then in Bell's case,

786
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: people culture in Bell's case, she uh wants much more

787
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: than this provincial life. She wants to go on an

788
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: adventure in the great wide somewhere. But in both movies

789
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: they don't really get farther than like the hands of

790
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: the arms of a man. Uh and Bell literally goes

791
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: I would say, less than three miles yeah, and has

792
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: no idea there's a castle. But the story then becomes

793
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: about like her involvement with the male love interest, whereas

794
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: I mean in Anastasia, yes she does elope with a

795
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: man at the end, but the story is more about

796
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: like her journey to figure out herself and her family

797
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: history and her back story, rather than like, there is

798
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: the subplot of the Roman, but it's not what takes

799
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: over the whole story. So yeah, like it another one

800
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: of the big I think we already sort of said this,

801
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: but in the dark of the night is is like

802
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: the same exact number as be Prepared from Lion King

803
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: to the point where it is sung by the same man.

804
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: I know you guys, okay, uh does Jeremy irons not

805
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: saying be prepared? He sings about two thirds of it,

806
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: and then he was getting a little pitchy dog on

807
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: some of them and so they bring in Jim Cummings,

808
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: who does all who sings entire in the dark of

809
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: the night. But but it's like, not only is it

810
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: super visually similar similar where they're in a cave and

811
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: there's green fog and there's singing animals who are standing

812
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: for nazis there, Uh, but it's also literally the same

813
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: guy singing it. It's such a blatant rip off that

814
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: I do respect it. Um. Yeah, So they just like

815
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: stole a bunch of like some of the best scenes

816
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: from Disney movies and just sort of retrofitted it to

817
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: fit this historically accurate movie. Yes, can I give a

818
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: brief rundown of the historical accuracy please, because it is

819
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it is like wild that this story was

820
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: chosen to be adapted. And I guess that there is

821
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: like early drafts of this script that were more closer

822
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: to the real story, which when you know the real story,

823
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 1: seems impossible in Children Nation because what actually happened. So

824
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: in in I R. L. Resputen was not an enemy

825
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: of the romanofs. He was a close friend of the

826
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: Czarina slash fucking her. We don't know, um, but he

827
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: claimed he claimed to like have magical powers. He somehow

828
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: cured the youngest romanovs hemophilia with either magic or basic medicine,

829
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: we don't know. Uh. Either way, he gets a lot

830
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: of influence in the court. The Czarina really likes him.

831
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: He's a friend of the family. And he dies two

832
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: full years before the Romanos are killed, so that has

833
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: nothing to do with anything. The romanofs are all for

834
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: sure killed. They were all shot in a basement by

835
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: the Bolshevik government during the Russian Revolution. But like the

836
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: Resputen and the Romanos were like never on bad terms.

837
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: All the Roman kids died. The grandma was out of town,

838
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: but she was in Denmark, which is too boring for

839
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: the movie. Um, the grandma never looked for her family.

840
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: She was she took it. She was like, I guess

841
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: they're dead, and she was right. They were all dead.

842
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: There were some rumors that Anastasia lived and it's funny

843
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: why this is horrible, but like the rumors were that

844
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: Anastasia had maybe lived because she was wearing so many

845
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: diamonds that they deflected the bullets, and so she lived

846
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: and she was around, and there was one very successful

847
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: Anastasia impersonator which it looks like most of this movie

848
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: is is modeled on if it were true, which it wasn't.

849
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: But there was this girl named Anna Anderson who was

850
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: like poor and looked similar, and they were like the

851
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: reason they gave their like, well, she suffered a lot

852
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: of depressions, so it's probably her and and she like

853
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: wrote memoirs as if it were true. There was some

854
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: hot guy involved in the con and so that is

855
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: that's unfortunately. And also they you know, they erased all

856
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: the all the messy, oppressive Stalin stuff. Yes, it's so

857
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: weird that they chose to make this a movie. That's

858
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: kind of the one thing that I would say most

859
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: differentiates it from other Disney movies at this time is

860
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: that it's taking history and then really taking a lot

861
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: of liberties with it. But it is but most of

862
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: Disney movies were based from like fairy tales and and

863
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, mythology and stuff like that, and this is

864
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: in Anastasia is taking you know, historically inaccurate events and

865
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: then making those into a movie. But it is based

866
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: in at least real life figures, which is irresponsible to

867
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: so wildly misrepresent what actually happened and then have that

868
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: be a children's movie, because you know how many children

869
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: will watch the movie version of something rather than like

870
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: reading the real thing at all of us. I thought

871
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: this was the only thing I knew about Russian culture

872
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: for the first like sixteen years of my life, and

873
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: it was like one of those things where I sort

874
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: of took it at phase value until forced to say

875
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: it allowed I was like, yeah, well he was a wizard,

876
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: but he failed, but then he died, but then he

877
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: came back. So I don't think that's the best choice

878
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: that a movie has ever made, but I would say

879
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: overall it handles a lot of things better than a

880
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: lot of Disney movies of its time. Yeah, I think

881
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: we're just looking at the way like it is if

882
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: this is like this company's take on what is clear,

883
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: like trying to take a little bit of whatever the

884
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: princess market is at this time, Like they do a

885
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: better job and they steal a lot of what Disney

886
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: was doing better than them, which I guess respect I

887
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: don't know this movie rules. I don't know. I can't.

888
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: No one's going to talk me into disliking it. So

889
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: there's four credited writers on this movie, two of whom

890
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: are women, which you have to think has to do

891
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: with because most Princess movies were not written by women,

892
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: and I don't think it really shows it all. No,

893
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: there's one one screenwriter, Nanni White, who also wrote newsies Tarzan,

894
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: Hunchback in Notre Da, and Two Dalmatians and worked on

895
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: The Lion King. Then there's another screenwriter, Susan Gothier. I

896
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: couldn't find her CRIDs. And then also Carrie Fisher did

897
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: rewrites on this movie. Yeah, because she was a prolific

898
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: script doctor, yeah for many years, and she would help

899
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: punch up a bunch of scripts. She was supposed to

900
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: have been the person who added in the what did

901
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: you say the name of the lady who ran the orphanage?

902
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: So that would be um, comrade Fleming cough. That's so,

903
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: I yeah, canonically as a Carrie Fisher. It's also spelled

904
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: like because I watch everything with subtitles on and the

905
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: subtitles spell Fleming cough p h L E g M

906
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: the way that flem is spelled. And she's like characterized

907
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: as like this old bag and it's like, oh, girls,

908
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: a woman over thirty five. I think that that is

909
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: probably true. And also but like over thirty five and

910
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: poor Nor because you see Angela Lansbury is kind of

911
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: like she's hot because she's right, which you know canon, um, yeah,

912
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: did you have anything else? The only other thing I

913
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: wanted to mention was rest Sputan talks about at least

914
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: three times in the movie how much he loves cologne.

915
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: Did anyone else pick up on this? It's in his song.

916
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: He mentions it later before he's about to go try

917
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: to kill Anastasia himself in the flesh, and then I

918
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: think there's another scene where you see him like sprit

919
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: sing it on. So he is obsessed with cologne. Rewatch

920
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: Anastasia Beyond Cologne. Watch. I just wanted to point that out.

921
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: I wonder if that is like a fact about I,

922
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: as someone who who has several biography as of resput

923
01:01:55,600 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: And in her home, I've never encountered that before. My

924
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: favorite respute, in fact, if you want to check it

925
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: out on and on your own, is you should look

926
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: up Resputen. He has three kids on the books, but

927
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: there there were some some side kids. I'm sure that

928
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: that his bat was, but he had three kids, and

929
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: the one who didn't get killed later his name Maria Resputen,

930
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: and she went on to be a lion tamer and

931
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: burlesque performer, and then she moved to l A. So honestly,

932
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: live your best when your dad is a cartoon villain,

933
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Become a lion tamer and

934
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: moved to l A and burlesque performer. Yeah, yeah, and

935
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: a and a major resput and did nothing wrong at

936
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I've seen the movie. Yea, I know

937
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: what he did. Anyone have any other final thoughts? Literally?

938
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: All right, does Anastasia pass the Bechtel test? Yes? It

939
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: does does right away? Between young Anastasia and her grandmama. Um,

940
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: it does pass between Anastasia and Comrade Fleming cough believe

941
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: it or not. And then I think also between Anastasia

942
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: and Sophie. Um, did you get about the circumstances of

943
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: her entire family's death? Right? Yeah? There was also a

944
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: pass between Grandmamma and Sophie right, um. But other than that,

945
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: I think that that Yeah, that's all I had. Unfortunately,

946
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: Misses the bat didn't didn't get any character. Why isn't

947
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: she name? Where is her arc? There is a directed

948
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: video about Bartalk magnificent. Yeah, it's all right, I won't

949
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: spoil anything. It's quite bad, but it is like I

950
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: think Hanks Area is one of those people who is

951
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: kind of down for whatever. He was fully back. He

952
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: didn't call in a backup. He's like, I'm available, bar

953
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: talk the magnificent. I'm in. Oh good grief. All right,

954
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: So let's write the nipple of the movie on our

955
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: nipple scale. Rate the nipple on our movie scale. How

956
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: many movies would you give this? So our nipple scale

957
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: is zero to five nipples based on its representation of

958
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: women and all things considered, I'd give it like a

959
01:04:55,520 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: two and a half or three. Were you expecting lower? Yes, okay,

960
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm exciting for your birthday. I'll bump it up to

961
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: a three. Yes, okay, yeah, I think again. If if

962
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: you're comparing it to other like animated children's media of

963
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: this time, especially like a princess narrative, I think it

964
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: does handle a lot of things way better by comparison. Uh,

965
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: it's still, you know, wedging in a romantic relationship where

966
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: there doesn't need to be one. I would say it's

967
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, but his haircut, did you see him? But

968
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: that's another Titanic the haircut. Oh that's true. Oh I

969
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: had one. I did have one. More Titanic parallel on

970
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: my list is men doubting a woman's identity because that

971
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: happens at the beginning with Old Rose. They don't believe

972
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: that she is who she says she is, and they're

973
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: also not sure if Anastasia is Anastasia. So the movies

974
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: are basically the same. And may I just say that

975
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: one of the songs in Anastasia was nominated for an

976
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: Academy Award but lost to my Heart will go on

977
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: our Queen. Also, it's where it's worth mentioning if you

978
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: if you like to go to places like YouTube dot

979
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: com like myself, there is like a making of featurette

980
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: about Anastasia that's hosted by Aliyah. Uh may she rest

981
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: in peace because she if you listen to the song

982
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: at the end of Anna stage to the credit song,

983
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: it's sung by Aaliyah. She did a song for this movie,

984
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: and she does that whole like how they used to

985
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: do this weird wonderful world of Disney, but not of like, Hi,

986
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm this person, you know, let's see this movie and

987
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: like she's she hosts it, so she's just stag chair

988
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: turnaround or no no, she's standing in front of the

989
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower looking deeply uncomfortable. All right, She's like, as

990
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: we all know, Anastasia comes as soon. Let's learn more beautiful.

991
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: It's good. The Alia song is good. You should on

992
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: the soundtrack. It's snow in the dark of the night.

993
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that's disrespectful. Um, so yeah, I'll stay

994
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: with three and a half. Sorry, three nipples? God, oh

995
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: my god, yes, three because it does handle a lot

996
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: of things well in terms of like the princess character, um,

997
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: giving her more development, more personality, more agency, more motivation

998
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: than a lot of other comparable movies of its time.

999
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,439
Speaker 1: But it's still has some things about it, as we've

1000
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: discussed that bump it down to a three, not a

1001
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: three and a half. So that's so sorry. I know

1002
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: it's your birthday. It's not, but it's over a month

1003
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: away your birthday. But no, um. Yeah, So it's three nipples,

1004
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: and I will give one to a historically accurate representation

1005
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: of Anastasia, so not this movie, but the dead one.

1006
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: So the dead one. Okay, I will just gave one

1007
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: of your nipples to a dead eight year old. That

1008
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: go off. I guess I'll give one to um, but

1009
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: think of having a panic at that. I'll give one

1010
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: to the dog whose name I forget, and I'll give

1011
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: my phone apple to Mrs pink Bat. So I'm gonna

1012
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: go three and a half, I think, I mean, I

1013
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: think that in a lot of and you're saying that

1014
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: this last night, we're like Disney acquired Fox and you said,

1015
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: a lot of mouth breathers are trying to figure out

1016
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: if she's a Disney Princess now where there's a whole

1017
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: just community out there that's been like finally our princess

1018
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: has been crowned, finding out that they're crawling out. I mean,

1019
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: like at last she's doing Disney, so which is like

1020
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: the weirdest like late capitalism, like take to have of

1021
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:36,480
Speaker 1: like this is actually a good thing, like as unstaged

1022
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: as Disney Princess. But there I mean for the like

1023
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: you were saying, like for the fact that this is

1024
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: a separate animation company trying to do the same format

1025
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: and then they do it better, they give their character

1026
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: more agency. She's funny, she's cool, she's calling the shots

1027
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: in the relationship for the most part, except for, of course,

1028
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: the large deception, uh right. Other than that it's all

1029
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: her go. I love her. Resiputing is is an icon

1030
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 1: of any sort, really, you name it, He's an icon.

1031
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 1: I I like the Bat. I I feel like I

1032
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: was kind of dead a little hard in the bat

1033
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: earlier and in the marketing, especially at the ice show,

1034
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: we had a we had a we had a slushy

1035
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: in the bat's head. They were really pushing the bat

1036
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: in marketing. They really want to make the bad thing,

1037
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: and I we still have that cup. My dad, my

1038
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: dad dreams out of that bad's head to this bad

1039
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: my dad drinks out of all the on ice cups.

1040
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Speaker 1: He doesn't like to throw things away at he he

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01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: puts coffee in the bad and then he writes about

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Speaker 1: hockey all day. And that's his feminism. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I like this movie a lot. I think that it,

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01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: like is one of the best versions of this format.

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Speaker 1: So so three and a half nippies. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: give two to the cartoon Nanna Station Jesus. Uh. Then

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give one to dmich Uh. I'm sorry, sorry,

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Speaker 1: did you I've been holding that back for a long

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Speaker 1: time ago uh. And then I'll I'll kick the last

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Speaker 1: half nip I'll give it to the dog. Dog kind

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Speaker 1: of looks like my dog. Yeah, a little floppy dog

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Speaker 1: that looks stupid. Does Does anyone remember what the dog's

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Speaker 1: name was Pa? It's Puka. The dog's name is Pouka.

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Speaker 1: Does that mean something? No, it's just it's Russian for dog. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Punts is to fart. So that's right in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: And that's fun. That's just fun. That's fun. I hope

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Speaker 1: they named the dog far. I was gonna say the

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Speaker 1: comrade Fleming cough or whatever. That's actually like a pretty

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Speaker 1: common Russian trope in Russian literature, especially like humor stuff,

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Speaker 1: is that someone's name. Someone will be like an asshole

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Speaker 1: and their name will be Mr. Ship and it's just

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01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: like never addressed. It's just like Mr Ship is being

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Speaker 1: mean again. And so that's like a very very common

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01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: trip and it's dealt with like very matter of factly,

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01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: like it's not really addressed, like the Stay Sky. A

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Speaker 1: lot of times it's there's a there's somebody with the

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Speaker 1: name Mr. Ship literally, so I don't know, so that's

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Speaker 1: a for me. That's I don't know, there's some accuracy,

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Speaker 1: that's uh. And what would you rate the movie on

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Speaker 1: the nipple scale. Okay, so on the nipple scale, I

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Speaker 1: rate the movie. I think three and a half is

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01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: a great rating. I think you were wrong with three.

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Speaker 1: So what are you vote? An embarrassment? No, I just

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Speaker 1: it really is so different from other I mean, it

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Speaker 1: really rocked my world that it was not a Disney

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01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: movie because it looks so much Disney movie that it's

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01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: alarm like, how did they not get sued? Um? But

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Speaker 1: she seems like an autonomous I mean, given the time, also,

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Speaker 1: which is the turn of this? You know, the like

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Speaker 1: this nineteen sixteen, nineteen twenty six I don't know how

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Speaker 1: independent women were in Russia. Quite frankly, they were fiercely independent,

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Speaker 1: super independent. Yeah. It was actually a very feminist community feminist,

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01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: this little community feminist running around whatever, very small, you

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01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: knew everybody, all the girls were there. But yeah, she's

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01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 1: like at least an interesting character who's funny and stands

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Speaker 1: up for herself. So yeah, I'm comfortable with three and

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Speaker 1: a half nipples for this movie. Well, Anna, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for being here, and thank you. Tell us

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Speaker 1: where can pe? We'll follow you online? Is there anything

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Speaker 1: you would like to plug? Um? I have a very exciting,

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Speaker 1: not yet to be talked about project involving Kiana Reeves

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01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: that will be a podcast sometime soon. It does, it

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Speaker 1: will pass the back del test, even though it's about

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Speaker 1: Kiana Reeves, even though okay, yeah, that's impressive. Yeah, how

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Speaker 1: do we identify? How do we, as women who are

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Speaker 1: obsessed with Kiana Reeves maintain our time? Uh yeah yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean all you really need to know, I guess

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Speaker 1: is that by Twitter is touching Cheesus. Yes, and that's

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Speaker 1: really all I have to say for myself. Okay, thank

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Speaker 1: you follow Anna at Touching Jesus. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thanks to The Ruby for hosting us.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to our very good pal Sammy recordings for us.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Jeff and the Tech Booth. Hell yah and

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Speaker 1: happy birthday, Jamie and I'm one Mike yea. Thanks once

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Speaker 1: again to our guest Anna sair Gina for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to follow her on all the social media

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Speaker 1: platforms and check out her stand up comedy and her

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Speaker 1: upcoming podcast. Thanks to The Ruby for having us, Thanks

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Speaker 1: to Sammy Junio for recording us, Thanks to the audience

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Speaker 1: for supporting us, and thanks to you for listening to us.

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Speaker 1: We will be here next week. See you then,