Speaker 1: Hey there, Fana Rito's welcome to a brand new episode
Speaker 1: of How Rude Tanerritos. This is part two of our
Speaker 1: interview with Christian Goosik, who you'll remember as Jake Bitterman
Speaker 1: from seasons three to four of Full House. This blast
Speaker 1: from the past is such a fun one for me,
Speaker 1: and we're so glad he decided to join us today.
Speaker 1: So everyone put your hands together for Christian.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I went back. I watched.
Speaker 3: Three of Europe.
Speaker 1: I watched the thirteen candles of that episode, and I
Speaker 1: swear I had built this up in my mind. I
Speaker 1: was convinced I could have sworn that our kiss was
Speaker 1: at least two full minutes. And then I got to
Speaker 1: that part and I watched it and I'm like, it's over.
Speaker 1: It's like it was not. It was a nano second.
Speaker 1: It was a pack, and I had built it up
Speaker 1: in my mind for like thirty something years. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go on forever.
Speaker 4: No, it was nothing, you know, I mean, it was
Speaker 4: it was just.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: I actually watched it.
Speaker 3: But your parents were probably even like did that happen?
Speaker 2: Did I you know.
Speaker 5: Like here we are thinking like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 5: all They're thinking about now right, and they were just like, oh,
Speaker 5: I've seen her kids or grandma like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally totally.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I love this the evolution
Speaker 1: of Kimmy and Jake Bitterman, because first we're sort of
Speaker 1: like front of me is like, I'm lobbing insults at you,
Speaker 1: and you're just like whatever, gibbler, and then we end
Speaker 1: up kissing and like it's like, wait a minute, we
Speaker 1: might have feelings for each other. But by the next
Speaker 1: episode when you come back, we're again lobbing insults at
Speaker 1: each other. I'm just like chill Bitterman. So it's so
Speaker 1: fun to watch, Like you were such a funny character.
Speaker 1: I wish I wish it would have continued even longer
Speaker 1: past season four because you were such a good.
Speaker 4: Yeah no cool I I I yeah, yeah, I feel
Speaker 4: the same way. That's all I can say.
Speaker 6: It was real fun and really, like like I said,
Speaker 6: it was, It's something that's just been a fun part
Speaker 6: of my life for forever. You know. I even I
Speaker 6: rewatched actually we didn't. We didn't rewatch the episode, but
Speaker 6: we watched the episode of Fuller House that it was
Speaker 6: replayed in with my.
Speaker 4: Tenure, yeah, with my ten Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: And I thought the same thing that you said that like,
Speaker 6: that wasn't he that was that was barely a kiss.
Speaker 6: That was just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, barely a kiss.
Speaker 1: But it felt so like this monumental thing in my
Speaker 1: life at the time, and now it is at forty eight,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that was no big deal, but it
Speaker 1: felt like, really, that's great.
Speaker 6: I'm glad you have been a monumental part of your life.
Speaker 6: Is that is wonderful And equally you guys all, even
Speaker 6: you in particular Andrea, because there's been going back to that,
Speaker 6: like at different times, people have you know, been like
Speaker 6: you're Jake Bitnerman. Another thing that's happened with like really
Speaker 6: close friends of mine, people that I developed relationships with
Speaker 6: or you know, still have relationships with whatever, at different
Speaker 6: times have almost casually like mentioned like, oh, so, you know,
Speaker 6: when's the last time you guys talked, And you know,
Speaker 6: there's been a moment where I look at them, I'm like, well,
Speaker 6: I don't fifteen and and then you see their eyes.
Speaker 4: Like oh wait, oh oh oh oh oh yeah.
Speaker 6: And I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, that existed on the show,
Speaker 6: you know, like that was a that was on the show.
Speaker 6: You you seem to have watched the show religiously, so
Speaker 6: you probably.
Speaker 4: Even know more than I do, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Oh, they do, for sure, they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely do.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So why didn't you stay in acting? What? I don't
Speaker 1: know when exactly you left the business, if it was
Speaker 1: right after Full House or maybe a few years later.
Speaker 1: But if you're in finance now, you obviously.
Speaker 2: Didn't stick with it.
Speaker 1: So what what led you out of it?
Speaker 6: You know, nothing in particular. And I even consider myself
Speaker 6: never having totally left the business. I've I've I've flirted
Speaker 6: with it my whole life, you know, and really, like,
Speaker 6: you know, just just like anything you know, as you
Speaker 6: as you sort of age and grow, and you know,
Speaker 6: I like, I developed a really close knit group of
Speaker 6: high school friends and that became its own world for
Speaker 6: some time and sort of drew me away from wanting
Speaker 6: to go on auditions and then, you know, sort of
Speaker 6: in my late teens, maybe becoming bored with that. I
Speaker 6: actually got involved with the theater group for a number
Speaker 6: of years, and.
Speaker 4: I love that. That was a whole different.
Speaker 6: World of acting and writing that that I fell in
Speaker 6: love with that I really just is still extremely near
Speaker 6: and dear to my heart. Although it was all in
Speaker 6: the theater and it wasn't I don't have any reruns
Speaker 6: that we can go watch of that, you know, but the.
Speaker 2: Theater is so fun and exhilarating in its own way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're sort of as a young adult,
Speaker 6: I really got to experience a whole different side that
Speaker 6: I didn't even understand existed really as a kid, you know,
Speaker 6: And that was wonderful. And then I met my wife,
Speaker 6: my now wife, you know, maybe around twenty two, and
Speaker 6: you know, truly love at first sight. I don't know
Speaker 6: why she was interest in me, but everybody.
Speaker 4: Understands why I was interested in her.
Speaker 6: You know, she's just wonderful and gorgeous and just yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't even know how much how I lucked out,
Speaker 6: and that sort of started a new era of life
Speaker 6: that you know, she lived in Huntington Beach at the time,
Speaker 6: and you know, and not even you know, I don't
Speaker 6: say this, you know, in any upset way, but sort
Speaker 6: of drew me away from the theater group that I
Speaker 6: was working in at the time, and and I we
Speaker 6: almost moved in together almost immediately. You know, oh and
Speaker 6: and uh, and then you know, the whole finance career
Speaker 6: that was even just an accident. You know, I just
Speaker 6: sort of needed a job and and I had graduated
Speaker 6: from U C. L A. And I had actually the
Speaker 6: only time I ever got fired in my life. I
Speaker 6: had gotten fired from the House of Blues. I was
Speaker 6: working as a bartender. And uh, I wish, by.
Speaker 4: The way, it was like the most fun job you
Speaker 4: could ever imagine.
Speaker 6: But uh, but and I, is that why you got fired? No,
Speaker 6: it was, it was, I mean, looking back on it, it was.
Speaker 6: It was really just sort of dumb instance where me
Speaker 6: and a friend of mine got into an argument that
Speaker 6: kind of overblown and it didn't matter much to us,
Speaker 6: but it mattered to hr and.
Speaker 2: A yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: But but and I just sort of needed a job
Speaker 6: and and I saw an ad in the newspaper at
Speaker 6: the time when those still existed, and uh, you know,
Speaker 6: just sort of walked in the door and met a
Speaker 6: person who has now been a lifelong best friend of mine.
Speaker 6: And you know, I've worked with on and off and
Speaker 6: anyhow whatever, and just happened to work in sort of
Speaker 6: finance for a little while. And then the whole economic
Speaker 6: crash happened, and you know, at that time.
Speaker 4: I we didn't have kids.
Speaker 6: I you know, had done okay in those years, and
Speaker 6: was like, I think I'm gonna go to grad school.
Speaker 6: And literally like in the middle there too, I had
Speaker 6: written a screenplay and and kind of got some recognition
Speaker 6: from it, you know. But by the way, too, I
Speaker 6: should I should say this. At the very same time,
Speaker 6: my sister, whom I'm super close with, I mean, she's
Speaker 6: she's extraordinarily successful in the entertainment industry. She's an attorney,
Speaker 6: and she was building her career at this time, and
Speaker 6: and and so like and and we're really really close,
Speaker 6: you know, uh you know, her husband and whatever, We're
Speaker 6: really close. And so there was always that connection through her,
Speaker 6: you know. And like when I say extraordinarily successful, like
Speaker 6: like I could start with it in a movie with
Speaker 6: Brad Pitt tomorrow and I'm still not even on her coattails.
Speaker 4: Let's put it that way, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: And she's just amazing and brilliant and everything. And so
Speaker 6: there was always that connection through there. And I had
Speaker 6: written a screenplay that that sort of just while I
Speaker 6: was working, you know, you know, sort of my regular
Speaker 6: job got me a lot of meetings and little jobs
Speaker 6: and you know, I mean how the entertainment business is, right,
Speaker 6: but it never impeded just working. And then so you know,
Speaker 6: the crash happened and and like everybody in financer, banking
Speaker 6: or anything just didn't have a job anymore. And I
Speaker 6: was like, I'm going to grad school and I learned
Speaker 6: that Chapman had a film program that was like kind
Speaker 6: of you know, bustling at the time.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a really great film program.
Speaker 6: Totally, and and so I had some of this sort
Speaker 6: of you know street cred as a as a writer.
Speaker 4: That wasn't that big of a.
Speaker 6: Deal, but you know, in that world. And it was
Speaker 6: a Sunday and the application was due on Monday, and
Speaker 6: I looked at Melanie and I went, I'm just gonna
Speaker 6: put together an application. Let's see what happens. And I
Speaker 6: got into the directing program and it was like the
Speaker 6: perfect time and I went there. It was in the
Speaker 6: directing program that was a blast. Again, lots of people
Speaker 6: recognized me and knew me as Jake Bitterman, even one
Speaker 6: of my best friends to this day, I mean truly
Speaker 6: one of my best best friends of my whole life.
Speaker 6: Like the second or third thing he said to me
Speaker 6: at a mixer was you're Jake Bitterman, aren't you. I
Speaker 6: started laughing, and I was like, yeah, totally, I take it.
Speaker 6: You watch the show, He's like, I love it. I've
Speaker 6: seen every show like twenty times. Oh my gosh, and yeah,
Speaker 6: so much one of my best friends of this day,
Speaker 6: you know, and and so like that was even sort
Speaker 6: of a just a break where, you know, again, mostly
Speaker 6: because of the economy at the time, just okay, I
Speaker 6: worked in film production, and I worked on a bunch
Speaker 6: of short films and independent films and had a blast
Speaker 6: doing that, and you know, and and for a time
Speaker 6: was you know, just sort of out there whatever, shopping
Speaker 6: my ideas around and what do we all know, the
Speaker 6: reality of the entertainment business.
Speaker 4: It's a tricky business, you know.
Speaker 6: I think I heard you even Andrea sayana a podcast
Speaker 6: something about how as an adult and you realize how
Speaker 6: incredibly lucky you you you are to have had this opportunity,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, oh yeah, well I didn't appreciate it
Speaker 1: as a kid. As a kid, I was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: I have to miss I have to miss going to
Speaker 1: the movies with my friends after school, I have an audition,
Speaker 1: and you know, I did not appreciate it as a kid.
Speaker 5: It's just like, oh, you know, but as a kid,
Speaker 5: you don't appreciate anything. You're just kind of a dick,
Speaker 5: you know really.
Speaker 6: And that's why you got That's why you got cast
Speaker 6: on the show, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But that all happened, and it was just fun.
Speaker 6: And then even in that world, you know, I got
Speaker 6: to a point where, like, you know, I was working
Speaker 6: on an independent film that you know that was a
Speaker 6: forefriend and and it was great, and they even had
Speaker 6: had a budget, you know for the independent world, but
Speaker 6: it was stretched really thin.
Speaker 4: And uh.
Speaker 6: And I remember I was standing next to the grip truck.
Speaker 6: You know, I was sort of a low level producing
Speaker 6: on that film and and I was standing next to
Speaker 6: the grip truck in possibly the worst neighborhood in LA
Speaker 6: at like three in the morning, and we were way
Speaker 6: short on crew, and we were running late, and like
Speaker 6: the grip truck had to stay open because everyone was
Speaker 6: trying to go in and out of it fast. And
Speaker 6: like I could hear, you know, like three people across
Speaker 6: the street like talking about Okay, how can they just
Speaker 6: take me out real quick and just get whatever they
Speaker 6: can get out of that truck? And I just I
Speaker 6: just remember inside my head being like, okay, okay, this
Speaker 6: is not really yeah, this isn't actually what I want
Speaker 6: to be doing in the entertainment business. You know what
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 1: It's not all glitz and glamour.
Speaker 6: It's you know, I think people don't realize the true
Speaker 6: blue collar side of I've told people.
Speaker 4: I've told people for years, like Hollywood exists.
Speaker 5: On the screen, you know, go to birth for sure,
Speaker 5: it's yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll see it's that's where it
Speaker 5: all happens.
Speaker 6: And yeah, you know, it exists on the screen anyhow.
Speaker 6: And so right around that time, you know, the economy
Speaker 6: had started to pick back up, and I got an
Speaker 6: opportunity that I just, again just sort of on a whim,
Speaker 6: was like, okay, I just need to clear my head,
Speaker 6: you know. And I even took that opportunity that wasn't
Speaker 6: wasn't what I'm where I'm at now. Took that opportunity
Speaker 6: with the idea of you know, okay, I'm going to
Speaker 6: go to this you know, small v C firm, and
Speaker 6: and I'm going to figure out how to talk the
Speaker 6: powers that be into putting money into movies, you know,
Speaker 6: and and and they were primarily tech based. And that
Speaker 6: lasted for about a year and and and and I
Speaker 6: learned really quick like, yeah, nobody wants to talk about
Speaker 6: putting money into movies like at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: They're like, look, I gave my you know, I gave
Speaker 6: my son, you know, five hundred thousand dollars to make
Speaker 6: a movie. And it's the worst thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 6: It's basically the story you hear, you know. And uh
Speaker 6: and and that was really tough but exciting, you know,
Speaker 6: because it was sort of in the tech world. And
Speaker 6: and then I got an even more boring opportunity that
Speaker 6: that uh I say boring, but I but I love it.
Speaker 6: It's become my true career for a long time now
Speaker 6: for another firm that I'm that I'm at now and
Speaker 6: uh and and I've been there for a long time.
Speaker 6: And again, even there, it was always like, well, you know,
Speaker 6: I'll get together the money for an independent movie or something.
Speaker 6: And as I passed those milestones and got old or
Speaker 6: started to go like, yeah, I don't really want to
Speaker 6: throw my money away you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, adulting is hard. You got to make adult decisions
Speaker 1: and take care of your.
Speaker 6: Family come along, and then you start to see the
Speaker 6: pureeness of them experiencing expression, and you love that, you know,
Speaker 6: And like I joke around, now, you know, my career's
Speaker 6: brought me to a pretty a good point. You know.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm, I'm, I'm very very thankful for it. You know,
Speaker 6: That's all I can say. You know, it's given me
Speaker 6: a lot of stability and a lot of opportunities. But
Speaker 6: but like I even it's weird, I find myself now
Speaker 6: going I'm I'm much more interested in championing and you know,
Speaker 6: and supporting friends that are you know, I mean, I
Speaker 6: mean we all have friends of different levels of success
Speaker 6: in this industry, some that are extraordinarily successful, some that are,
Speaker 6: you know, still just trying to plug away.
Speaker 4: You know. I like being able to support and share
Speaker 4: on their wins.
Speaker 6: And you know, and when there's a GoFundMe going around,
Speaker 6: be like, yeah, cool, throw them a couple bucks.
Speaker 4: You know that type of thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I like, I like looking at my
Speaker 6: kids and seeing what they do, you know, and and
Speaker 6: and I even think in the back of my head, like, hey.
Speaker 4: Film has become so democratized.
Speaker 6: You know, I have an amazing vinted lens collection and
Speaker 6: cameras and two little girls that love to perform, and
Speaker 6: you know, and I go, okay, right now, you could
Speaker 6: take like ten grand and make a movie, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like right right.
Speaker 4: But at the same.
Speaker 6: Time, at my age, like I found myself also just
Speaker 6: being like excited about creativity and other opportunities, you know, like.
Speaker 4: Like it's weird.
Speaker 6: I I joked around saying my career is kind of boring, right,
Speaker 6: but it's not. I mean, it's just like any you know,
Speaker 6: I look at Excel spreadsheets and determine if this is
Speaker 6: going to be profitable, you know, and and and and
Speaker 6: well I was thinking about.
Speaker 4: That like this.
Speaker 5: I can't I can't even figure out Excel, so and
Speaker 5: perhaps off my friend, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: See, see, we need people like you.
Speaker 2: No, I'm who can do spreadsheets.
Speaker 4: I'm jealous of you for that. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 5: I'm jealous of you for that because I'm like, I
Speaker 5: get my life is disorganized, ah well whatever, like yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, and then.
Speaker 2: It just go BADHD off somewhere. But anyway.
Speaker 6: But but it's kind of you know, come to a
Speaker 6: final point on all of this, you know, like I
Speaker 6: found that. Okay, Like in my position now, creative opportunities
Speaker 6: still come by in different ways, you know. And most
Speaker 6: of the time, like like I get crazy calls all
Speaker 6: the time, because anybody that's sort of looking for money
Speaker 6: is just sort of spinning the rolodeck. Somebody's friend told
Speaker 6: them this friend and call this person, and you know,
Speaker 6: and so you get calls that you just you know,
Speaker 6: and you give it a good shake, you want to
Speaker 6: try to positive spin, but most of it is like, hey,
Speaker 6: you know, we're that's.
Speaker 4: Not what we do.
Speaker 6: You know, I can try to open the store for
Speaker 6: you or whatever. But but I found now it's sort
Speaker 6: of this stage in my life that once in a while,
Speaker 6: opportunities come by that are just sort of pure, you know,
Speaker 6: and and like and and also scratched that creative bug,
Speaker 6: but in a different way, you know, you know. I
Speaker 6: I even like recently, you know, everybody in the world
Speaker 6: is an AI, right, you know, And and everybody that
Speaker 6: comes to you with an AI project is like, this
Speaker 6: project is gonna make us Bagillians. And you're like, okay,
Speaker 6: maybe you know what I mean. But like, like I
Speaker 6: found a group that really all they're trying to do
Speaker 6: is help you know, homeless people and people with mental
Speaker 6: health struggles. And oh it's it's it's great, it's and
Speaker 6: and like it's even this weird intersection of like, you know,
Speaker 6: they were sort of small enough to where I could
Speaker 6: really help them, you know, and and they built something
Speaker 6: that is like I think that's just amazing. You know,
Speaker 6: Like I find myself walking out of the grocery store
Speaker 6: and you say, you see somebody there that's asking for
Speaker 6: you know, money or whatever, and Okay, give me a
Speaker 6: couple of bucks, give me a couple of street and
Speaker 6: then I'll stop the Oh hey, by the way, you
Speaker 6: should use this website, you know, and and and I
Speaker 6: pass it to them and then they'll sort of be like,
Speaker 6: what's the website And I'll be like, oh, it's just look,
Speaker 6: it's a you.
Speaker 4: Know, it works as a virtual social worker.
Speaker 6: It can you know, it can put you in touch
Speaker 6: with you know, you know, emergency needs, emergency housing needs,
Speaker 6: emergency food needs, you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 5: And which is so which is such a huge stumbling
Speaker 5: block for people who are un housed, is to find
Speaker 5: the resources, because there are resources, but find them right
Speaker 5: exactly exactly.
Speaker 6: And I mean I've known that a little bit over
Speaker 6: the years trying to help other people, and I certainly
Speaker 6: learned about it working with this group, and and it's
Speaker 6: it's sort of wonderful, you know because like like and
Speaker 6: also like like you can also talk to it and
Speaker 6: it will be a therapist to you and everything, and
Speaker 6: it's it's built on this you know, principles of empathy
Speaker 6: and all this stuff. And but it's it's, like you said,
Speaker 6: it's just simply going, hey, this can help you. And
Speaker 6: it's funny where we have no like plan to make money.
Speaker 4: We have no path to any of that.
Speaker 6: Like, like we even talk about it, you know, in
Speaker 6: our meetings and I'm like, well, look, I'll keep working
Speaker 6: to keep the lights on, and you know, but there's
Speaker 6: there's no real path to profitability other than you know,
Speaker 6: maybe some large healthcare group one day going you know, okay,
Speaker 6: you know, and we meet with them and talk to them,
Speaker 6: you know, and just going all right, we're gonna, you know,
Speaker 6: sort of write you a check. But sort of the
Speaker 6: pureeness of that of not thinking about anything business related,
Speaker 6: you know, just thinking about hey, this can help you,
Speaker 6: you know, and seeing people that go like, wow, are
Speaker 6: you serious, you know, and give it to them and
Speaker 6: see them use it and go yeah, yeah, it really
Speaker 6: does do that, Like it kind of cuts through the
Speaker 6: bs as best as possible. And it's weird because it's
Speaker 6: made me go, like, at this point in my life
Speaker 6: where I go, I don't know what is more creative,
Speaker 6: you know, I'd love to go make a film with
Speaker 6: my kids just because that would be fun. But at
Speaker 6: the same time, like, yeah, you know, but trying to
Speaker 6: you know, trying to help people and and and trying.
Speaker 3: To oh no, oh no, but we lost Bitterman.
Speaker 5: He was he was trying to help people so much,
Speaker 5: and then we lost him.
Speaker 2: Jake, where'd you go?
Speaker 4: I lost you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sorry for the tech problems.
Speaker 1: I need to Oh no, it's fine, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: We we run into tech problems every single time.
Speaker 4: It was lovely to right at the end of my.
Speaker 2: Like and I love helping.
Speaker 3: Yeah right.
Speaker 6: Exit, Yeah, totally totally my my you're no longer.
Speaker 4: In my earbuds.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys can still hear me
Speaker 6: just on Yeah, I don't know if it's sounds. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well to come.
Speaker 6: To the end of that, you know, it's sort of
Speaker 6: a you know, it's put me in that position where
Speaker 6: I just go like what do I.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what you know, it's.
Speaker 6: It's such a wonderful sort of scratches that same creative
Speaker 6: thing again because it's pure. It's not you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, there's no we don't get together and talk
Speaker 6: about you know what, what what is our return on
Speaker 6: this or or what is our safety on this. It's
Speaker 6: just like, hey, let's let's try to keep it going.
Speaker 6: Let's try to keep the lights on, you know, and
Speaker 6: and and I'll help you do that with whatever. And
Speaker 6: let's push this out to as many people as we
Speaker 6: can that can use it. And that's just really yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean it's it's really cool.
Speaker 1: You know what a special thing. Do you want to
Speaker 1: share the name of this group or apps? Or is
Speaker 1: there a way we can support it or our listeners can.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah absolutely. I mean you can simply go
Speaker 4: to the website.
Speaker 6: It's a angel ai dot io angel Ai dot io.
Speaker 2: Angel ai dot io.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, we'll add that to the show now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, It's it's something that anybody I say to anybody
Speaker 6: out there, if you're struggling with anything, go uh try it,
Speaker 6: you know, see if it can help you. You know,
Speaker 6: we've we've we've gotten great responses in usage.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's really yes, that's all I can say.
Speaker 2: Fantastic, so great.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: It's so great.
Speaker 5: It sounds like, sounds like very fulfilling. It sounds like
Speaker 5: that you like, you know, talking about sort of finding
Speaker 5: that creative stuff that you're you find.
Speaker 2: Fulfillment in that and and that's just fantastic.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fun, you know.
Speaker 4: And and again in in.
Speaker 6: Sort of that world, once in a while you get
Speaker 6: something fun and creative.
Speaker 4: And yeah, and.
Speaker 6: This is sort of again partially because of the like nope,
Speaker 6: business model aspect to it, right, it has been so fulfilling,
Speaker 6: you know, it's it's just refreshing, you know. Again, it
Speaker 6: reminds me of working in you know, independent film, when
Speaker 6: you're sitting there just going all right, we've put everything together.
Speaker 4: We're probably never making money on this, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, right, right, but you're you know, you're.
Speaker 6: You're doing it just for the love of it, you know,
Speaker 6: And and yeah it's great, but uh but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: please tell anybody you can about it.
Speaker 4: You know, we're we're just trying.
Speaker 6: To do everything I can to support as many people
Speaker 6: as possible that that might need need. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gives me such warm fuzzies that Jake Bitterman
Speaker 1: turned out to be such a cool rad adult.
Speaker 3: Seriously, seriously, you're not just.
Speaker 1: The annoying, the annoying kid that's always like poking Kimmy
Speaker 1: Gibbler like a gimbler, Like, you're just such a cool person.
Speaker 2: See don't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't judge someone by their middle school years.
Speaker 5: You really can't. You know, you never know middle school,
Speaker 5: high school, they're gonna they're gonna turn it around.
Speaker 3: Bitterman is a perfect example of that.
Speaker 6: Although although I am still just that annoying kid inside too.
Speaker 6: You know. You know, my wife would disagree with you guys,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 3: Right, she'd be like, he's not that great.
Speaker 2: It's not but that's just not.
Speaker 6: By all the time, she's like, what are we doing?
Speaker 4: Really? Like that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, you know that's how any good relationship works.
Speaker 5: There you need one person that's a little out there
Speaker 5: and then the other one to just go okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: all right, how are we doing? This right and actually
Speaker 5: have some planning.
Speaker 4: She's great. I can't even I can't say. I don't
Speaker 4: know how I lucked out with her just.
Speaker 6: Always being supportive and not worry about anything and and uh,
Speaker 6: you know, always being willing to just go, yeah, let's
Speaker 6: still caution of the way and let's do it, you know,
Speaker 6: and love it.
Speaker 4: And then us being able to like sort of reap
Speaker 4: the rewards of that.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's uh yeah fun.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that.
Speaker 5: It's so it's so great to hear that, Like, I mean,
Speaker 5: one that you went to Chapman, you're still an Orange
Speaker 5: County you know. It's just so many things that that
Speaker 5: we all shared sort of growing up. And it sounds
Speaker 5: like you have had an amazing experience sort of still
Speaker 5: connected to creative creativity and entertainment, and now you have
Speaker 5: these amazing artists as children.
Speaker 2: I mean, what a yeah, what a cool.
Speaker 5: Gift to get to watch how that creativity kind of
Speaker 5: comes through and expresses itself.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's cool. It's cool and and also too,
Speaker 6: like I even put that back to you guys, like
Speaker 6: I'm so happy for you guys that they did full like.
Speaker 4: That is so cool.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, Yeah, I can't even you know,
Speaker 6: you pretend to know how that feels for you guys
Speaker 6: to you know, have done this as kids and then
Speaker 6: and then come back on Fuller House and have a
Speaker 6: whole nother run.
Speaker 4: You know, like, yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: It was very fulfilling. It was it was unlike anything
Speaker 1: else I've experienced in your life. Yeah, getting to come
Speaker 1: home like visiting your childhood home again with all your
Speaker 1: childhood friends, but now you have the perspective of an
Speaker 1: adult and you appreciate things so much more than you
Speaker 1: did when you were thirteen. Absolutely, it was unreally. Now
Speaker 1: doing this rewatch podcast with Jodie too, that's a whole
Speaker 1: other level of.
Speaker 5: I know, so fun and getting to go back and
Speaker 5: you know again interview people that we haven't seen since
Speaker 5: we were kids and catch up and see what they're doing,
Speaker 5: and it's just it's been just a really really rewarding,
Speaker 5: fulfilling journey. So full House has been quite the experience
Speaker 5: for I think everyone that got to come into that's absolutely.
Speaker 6: I think it's it's it's always it's always been crazy
Speaker 6: to me how popular the show is, you know, just
Speaker 6: really like it's hit me numerous times again being you know,
Speaker 6: thirty five years old or forty years old and someone's like.
Speaker 4: You're Jake Bitnerman and I'm like really like, like that's
Speaker 4: not my old reaction.
Speaker 6: I'm really like, like, no.
Speaker 4: Joke, You're you're not even kidding. Yeah, they didn't tell
Speaker 4: you to say that.
Speaker 2: Right, right, yeah you actually recognize. Yeah it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's really it's really cool, you know. That's
Speaker 4: all I can say. Really cool and just yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: I even think about you guys having kids, like how
Speaker 6: cool well that would be to you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Like like this is like my daughter will often with
Speaker 6: me be like you know, dad, you know, you know whatever,
Speaker 6: you are an actor? Or do you? Or you are
Speaker 6: you an actor? And I'm so far removed from that.
Speaker 6: I even even when oh, oh gosh, I'm terrible, I'm
Speaker 6: terrible at placing your name. But the book or that
Speaker 6: that first reached out to me, you know, her question
Speaker 6: was are you Christian the actor?
Speaker 4: Now it's kind of like, well.
Speaker 2: They're like so sort of according to my mom, yes.
Speaker 4: Right, I can forward you to my mom, you know, but.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, exactly, hold on, she's taking my cast.
Speaker 1: My mom is going to get my work right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, do you have a do you have a
Speaker 6: set teacher? But to be able to do it again
Speaker 6: and have your kids sort of see you and oh wow,
Speaker 6: that's that really issue that really does exist in you.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I much to their embarrassment, to.
Speaker 7: Their embarrassing, Oh yeah, yeah, Well I think they had
Speaker 7: a really healthy appreciation once they saw how how much
Speaker 7: work it takes to put together a twenty two minute
Speaker 7: episode of a sitcom, Like, it takes so much work.
Speaker 1: So I think they developed a lot of appreciation for
Speaker 1: the hard work. Yeah and yeah, just yeah, And they're
Speaker 1: equally embarrassed and proud of us, you know, like that's
Speaker 1: how that's how kids are. Doesn't matter what your career is,
Speaker 1: because you're embarrassed and proud. But they won't ever admit that,
Speaker 1: of course, of course.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: I actually keep joking with my ten year old. She
Speaker 6: was recently in a production of Matilda, the musical.
Speaker 4: Oh Love I Love It. I knew nothing about Matilda
Speaker 4: at all. I had never seen any of the movies.
Speaker 5: It was one of my favorite books as a kid.
Speaker 5: Second grade, I read that book that I even knew.
Speaker 6: It was like a roll doll book, but I just
Speaker 6: sort of knew about it in the background. I knew
Speaker 6: Danny DeVito had made a movie of it, but I
Speaker 6: didn't know anything about it. So and quite literally, the
Speaker 6: first time I saw it was the production Kaylen was in,
Speaker 6: and I was blown away. I mean, I listened to
Speaker 6: the musical all the time in the car. School song
Speaker 6: is one of my favorite songs ever. You know, the
Speaker 6: hammer song is one of my favorite songs ever. And
Speaker 6: I keep I keep joking with Kaylene because she's doing
Speaker 6: another production of it, you know, coming up here, and
Speaker 6: I joking with Kaylan that, like, you know, the trench
Speaker 6: full character is the first character I've come across as
Speaker 6: an adult where I might want to actually try for something,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's a it's a fun character.
Speaker 6: And don't get me wrong, I don't even like pretend
Speaker 6: like I could do it justice, like you know, like
Speaker 6: has been just done done.
Speaker 4: You know the whatever. But I look at that character.
Speaker 6: And I'm not remembering her name is not Emma the actress? Yes, yes,
Speaker 6: like Emma Thompson's performance in the movie recently or whatever.
Speaker 4: Maybe ten years ago.
Speaker 2: The movie the musical movie is like, I mean.
Speaker 6: It's I look at it's like one of the greatest
Speaker 6: performances I've ever seen, you know, it's so pretty epic
Speaker 6: and amazing, and and so I keep I tease Kaylen
Speaker 6: there where, you know, like I'll I'll be singing the
Speaker 6: song way out of key and she'll like, dad, stop,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 5: Right, you could sing it in key, and they still like,
Speaker 5: I have that happen in the car, singing along and
Speaker 5: I'm in tune everything, and.
Speaker 2: She's just like.
Speaker 5: You you know, and I'm like, yeah, but not even
Speaker 5: like angry, but just more like, don't.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 3: Bably bless your heart.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, just bless don't. And I'm like, oh, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: Totally totally.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, well, your mom must be so proud
Speaker 1: of all of these budding, oh my gosh artists, Like
Speaker 1: your mom must just be out of her mind. I
Speaker 1: don't know that of your girls.
Speaker 6: And I think she's still mad at me for you know,
Speaker 6: for for for not you know, not going on commercial
Speaker 6: auditions anymore.
Speaker 5: Right, Like that's all fine and well and good, but
Speaker 5: you should I have your head shots seriously different.
Speaker 1: She's keeping your resume updated on the back of your headshot.
Speaker 6: Exactly We actually choked around with my dad because you know,
Speaker 6: my dad is a you know, very accomplished pianist and
Speaker 6: musician and everything, and so now in his seventies, like
Speaker 6: you know, he still does gigs and and uh and
Speaker 6: and my mom is you know, she's she's definitely got
Speaker 6: him out there. We always joke around, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, where we're like, come.
Speaker 5: On, but right, she's she's earning that ten percent. She's
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, she is the manager. She
Speaker 5: is making sure that it's all.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And my dad even has this whole other career that's
Speaker 6: very serious that he I mean, he's like a you know,
Speaker 6: one of the sort of pre eminent expert witnesses in
Speaker 6: the LA County court system. And I mean it's really
Speaker 6: like again, very sort of serious and and you know,
Speaker 6: respected whatever. But like we joke around that like no, no, no,
Speaker 6: but if there's a gig on Friday, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 6: you know what I.
Speaker 5: Mean, right, georch Smort, I'm going I've got to perform.
Speaker 4: Get your Shine On, Ronnie, Get your Shine On?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: Oh well, I love this. It's been so great talking
Speaker 5: to you, Christian. Thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 5: the show today.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. This was such a trip. This was
Speaker 1: such a cool trip for me. I really appreciate your
Speaker 1: time and your willingness and your eagerness, your excitement about
Speaker 1: doing this podcast, and your wonderful memories from full House.
Speaker 1: This has just been the highlight of my week, maybe
Speaker 1: the highlight of my year, Like this is just fantastic. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I hope that your girls are listening to this and
Speaker 1: his wife. I hope that, you know, shout out to
Speaker 1: them right for being just great people. Yeah, creative, Oh yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, it's look, I just say thank you guys.
Speaker 6: It's been a blast for me too, Absolutely it's been.
Speaker 6: It's provided sets, giggles, and I'm sure my Facebook is
Speaker 6: going to be blowing up with so many different friends.
Speaker 4: From different areas.
Speaker 5: Oh, we can't wait. It's just yeah, you're gonna it's
Speaker 5: Betterman all over again.
Speaker 2: First period? Are you Joe Betterman? Yeah, it's That's it
Speaker 2: all over again.
Speaker 6: But I say thank you to you guys, and like
Speaker 6: I said, I'm I'm so happy for you guys, so
Speaker 6: happy for the podcast.
Speaker 2: And thank you.
Speaker 6: Like I said, you know, hopefully our past cross again sometime.
Speaker 1: Not yes, yes, hopefully they will if you're ever in town,
Speaker 1: give me a call. Yeah, your wife and your girls.
Speaker 1: We should Bitterman and Bitterman and give.
Speaker 4: Great you know, hopefully.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we could get some some alternative news fandom person
Speaker 6: there that.
Speaker 5: Together, right, GMZ will go crazy.
Speaker 2: We'll lose it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, which reminds me I need to post the picture
Speaker 5: from when uh wit Hertford and I went to coffee
Speaker 5: the other day. Oh yeah, yeah face that yeah, deuk
Speaker 5: face returns. But anyway, thank you so much for joining
Speaker 5: us on.
Speaker 2: The show today.
Speaker 5: It was it was really really great. We appreciate it,
Speaker 5: and it was so much fun to see you again.
Speaker 4: Seriously, thank you guys.
Speaker 5: All right, thanks, thanks Christians.
Speaker 3: There's nothing less graceful than a than trying to leave
Speaker 3: a Zoom meeting.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's the it's the most awkward goodbuye you'll ever do.
Speaker 5: It's the equivalent of hugging someone and then walking in
Speaker 5: the same direction in a parking lot and you're.
Speaker 1: Like, and it doesn't matter how technological yours like, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: You're yeah, you're like, hey bye, okay, I can't and
Speaker 5: you just feel like an idiot. What Yeah, I just
Speaker 5: feel like an idiot. Well that was such a fun interview.
Speaker 5: I am so glad that we got to have the
Speaker 5: great and infamous Jake Bitterman on the show.
Speaker 1: What a Tree, What a delight. Our fans are going
Speaker 1: to be so excited at Oh my.
Speaker 5: God, they are going to lose their mind. Well that
Speaker 5: was part two of our interview with Jake Bitterman. I mean,
Speaker 5: uh literally, I it's why why did I It's He's
Speaker 5: Jake Bitterman.
Speaker 2: You know, it's Jake Bitterman. That's it.
Speaker 5: He will and for always be Jake Bitterman also known
Speaker 5: as Christian Kuzek. But really it's Jake Bitterman. No, I
Speaker 5: have such a great interview, so much fun to see
Speaker 5: you guys reconnect and yeah, it was just great. So
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Speaker 5: Tanato's And remember, everybody, the world is small, but the
Speaker 5: world also.
Speaker 3: Watched your entire first kiss, so oh my god, but luckily.
Speaker 2: It's small, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the world felt really big.
Speaker 5: Back right, the world and the kiss. Turns out they
Speaker 5: were both small. Yeah, they were both small.
Speaker 3: Eight