1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Please, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Love it 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: the Dream. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Once again here on another fully loaded sports Saturday, Fox 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Football Saturday. We are broadcasting live from the ti raq 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: dot com studios tyrack dot com. We're gonna get you 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: there an unmatched selection, fast reshipping, free road hazard protection, 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommending installers ti raq dot com, the 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: way tire buying should be. Well, Matt, it's great to 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: have you on the show today. We got everything, and 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: we got college basketball going on. We've got bowl games 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: going on today, and yes, we got National Football League action. 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: Already one outstanding game of the books as the Bengals 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: cover behind to get a big victory. Today we've got 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: the Steelers and the well, let's put it this way, 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: the resilient Colts almost at half time in indiaposis score 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: to take a fourteen to thirteen. League will be all 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: over that game. Then later it's the Broncos on the 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: road against the Lions. 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: Matt, how you doing today? 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: How are you feeling about this very exciting time in 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: the sports world. 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, Happy to be back on with you. 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 4: Excited that you were there to see those Chargers really 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 4: put up a nice effort Thursday night. 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: But this will be this will be a great day. 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: We got games going. 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: Like you said, minshoes just doing crazy stuff. I mean, 28 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: I've enjoyed watching him just improvise, make some gorgeous throws. 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: Pittman's making plays at first game, had everything, I mean, 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 4: Mullins for most of that game, which just incredible. 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: Some great performances today. All right, I'm going to say 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: something about it. 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: I'm going to say something right at the time. 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: I want to get your thought on this. Matt. 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: Quarterback is the most overrated position in football. And I 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: say that because we are now. When you think of 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 2: the thirty two teams in the NFL, how many teams 38 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: right now have their opening game quarterback at quarterback this week? 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: Half less than half. I mean, we're just talking about 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: this game right now between the Steelers and the Colts. 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: It's Trubisky versus Minshew. That those where you're not your 42 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: opening gay quarterbacks. The game I want to on Thursday, 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: the debacle for the Chargers backup quarterbacks. And when I 44 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: say overrated, you know I'm watching Jake Browning lead that 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: come from behind victory for the Bengals today and I 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: don't know he looks especially like Joe Burrow at the 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: end of the game making plays. He's got some talent 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: and wide receiver Tee Higgins a couple of big catches 49 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: to send that game in overtime eventually a win. And 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: even some of the quarterbacks that get all the notoriety, 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes down here, Josh Allen down here. I mean, 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: suddenly the quarterback position, which has been I think so 53 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: overhyped in recent years, it's coming to the point now 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: where you can sort of throw these quarterbacks in and 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: out and honestly, you're not seeing a great deal of difference. 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: I mean, there's always exceptions, there's always you know, like 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: the Cowboys obviously with Dak Prescott being hot right now, 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: but overall, quarterback plays been down in the NFL, and 59 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. My takeaway from this is is that 60 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: there really isn't a lot to differentiate the quarterbacks around 61 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: the National Football League, even when we see the second stringers. 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: Get all this action. 63 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, but none of those guys ever get a team 64 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl or the title games. I mean, 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: save for Foles leading the Eagles. 66 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: To a super Bowl. Well, you just gave one example 67 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: one season. I know what about Party. 68 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: Last year back Party was the third round, third fourth 69 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: string quarterback got his team to the conference championship. 70 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: I would say it's extremely rare over the years, and 71 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: you're using as example, Mahomes is there knocking on the 72 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: door a year after year after year, Like You've got 73 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: a team that'll have him for whatever ten to fifteen years, 74 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 4: and they'll be in a title game half of those 75 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: years or more because they have Mahomes. So I don't 76 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: see it as overrated. I still think it's I mean, 77 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 4: you know, if you don't have one, you're you're not 78 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 4: gonna go anywhere unless you got brock Purdy and you 79 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: put everything in the world around him and like that. 80 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 4: I mean you would admit that's an unbelievable defense. And 81 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: then what they put around him, So that seems like 82 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 4: kind of an exception. Like these teams were watching today, 83 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 4: like the Vikings aren't going anywhere despite Mullin's looking really good. 84 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Trubisky's not leading anybody anywhere. Although 85 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: he and Minshew have made a lot of nice plays, 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: they're not Those teams aren't gonna go anywhere. Like in 87 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 4: the end, it'll be like big time quarterbacks like it 88 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: was last year with Mahomes and Jalen Hurts. 89 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: So Jalen Hurts was not exactly the guy that was 90 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: expected to be a big time quarterback. 91 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: But by the time he played the Super Bowl, he 92 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: was the MVP. 93 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: Well that's my whole point, though in other words, it wasn't. 94 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: It wasn't like Jalen Hurts was like, Oh, there's a 95 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: guy that's going to get to a super Bowl. I 96 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: remember when they drafted Hurts and I kept asking people 97 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: because people the Eagles had fallen off the cliff with 98 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: Carson Wentz obviously, and I kept asking football people. I said, 99 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: give me a ceiling on Jalen Hurts, like, like how 100 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: because I was a fan of his. I always I 101 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: was a fan of his. On how he handled the 102 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: situation in Alabama where he gets bench for an entire 103 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: year to back up to a transfers to Oklahoma, finished 104 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: his runner up for the Heisman Trophy, and I just 105 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: liked his demeanor. I liked a certain level of maturity 106 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: that I saw for him and handling a very difficult situation. 107 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: But I remember, everybody, what do you think, what's his ceiling? 108 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's a guy. He's a guy. 109 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he's he's like a poor man's 110 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. He can't run as well, he can't throw 111 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: as well. 112 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 4: I bet you can't find any of those guys now, Like, 113 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: none of those guys who told you that would ever 114 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 4: go public. Certainly nobody buy the brock. 115 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: Purdy was going to be a player, so, you know, 116 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: being the last pick in the draft. And my point is, 117 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: it seems like it's more about the systems Matt than 118 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: it is really about the talented quarterback. I mean, it's 119 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: about can we develop a system and going back to 120 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: the Nick Foles situation. Remember Carson Wentz got hurt and 121 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: Doug Peterson decided we can't run the Carson Wentz offense 122 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: with Nick Foles. We need to change the offense. Remember 123 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: when he was really good when he first got to 124 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: the Eagles. Let's use that offense and the next thing 125 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: you know, the guy is winning a Super Bowl. 126 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it'd be interesting. 127 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 4: Like you, so you think the system in Kansas City 128 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: would be. 129 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: Well you have Andy Ree Holmes. 130 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 4: Well yeah, but I'm just saying without Mahomes, I mean, 131 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think who you might sub in Alex 132 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 4: Smith or whoever was before him. You know, he's just 133 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 4: elevated it to another level. I think it is interesting 134 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 4: to your point that you can bring in some folks 135 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 4: that are kind of pedestrian and not completely fall apart. 136 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 4: To me, it's just not sustainable. 137 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: Now. 138 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: Purdy is remarkable, but I think Perdy he's proving that 139 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: he's like a he's like an MVP candidate. Of course 140 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: nobody knew it, but he's turned himself into that. I mean, 141 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: he's he's he's great, he really is. He's after Dak 142 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: right now, who's playing better in the league. I mean, 143 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: Dak is your lead MVP candidate. Party's in there. I mean, 144 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: I think the Dak story is an amazing one because 145 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: a lot of people had built out. 146 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: On him and and he right now. 147 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 4: Is off the charts like he's he's he's, you know, 148 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: in the greatest place in his career at age thirty, 149 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 4: and he may very well win the MVP. 150 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: I want to share something with our listening audience. 151 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Matt, I was at the debacle that 152 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: was the Chargers blowout loss to a Raider team, by 153 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: the way, that had not scored an offensive touchdown. In 154 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: three weeks was coming off a three to nothing loss 155 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: at home and put up sixty three on the Chargers. 156 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: So during the game, I was actually texting with Matt 157 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: mney Smith, who's the voice of the Chargers. He's been 158 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: a long time friend of mine, and he actually was 159 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: texting me back during the first half talking about it 160 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: was embarrassing, this is ridiculous and everything else, and it was. 161 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: It was just absolutely embarrassing. I sent out on x 162 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: slash Twitter that if they have even a shred of credibility, 163 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: the Chargers have to fire Brandon Staley after this game, 164 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: and they did. But I think people are not really 165 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: understanding how this works with the Chargers organization. So the 166 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: Chargers made the move to LA at the behest of 167 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: the National Football League to include them in the deal. 168 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: Once Stan Crocky committed to building a stadium in Los Angeles, 169 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: which he ended up paying three times the initial amount 170 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: almost six billion dollars to build Sofi Stadium, and the Chargers' 171 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: contributions to that was zero zero. They've had a free 172 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: ride the entire time, and by the way, they owe 173 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: the NFL six hundred and fifty million dollars in relocation money, 174 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: and they haven't paid any of that yet. So the 175 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 2: Chargers organization is a joke led by Dean Spannus. So 176 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: I've known for over thirty years. Dean is one of 177 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: those classic examples of someone that was born on third 178 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: base and thinks he hit a triple. He was carried 179 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: by his father for years. Alex Spannis was a self 180 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: made millionaire who bought the charge organization back in the eighties, 181 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: and he was a very impressive man, unlike his son. 182 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: So the league now this whole deal about not just 183 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: firing Brandon Staley, but Tom Telasco, who happens to be 184 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: Dean Spanis's son, John Spannus, who's the President of Football 185 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: Operation's best friend. The reason both were fired came from 186 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: the league because the league has found out that just 187 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: putting the NFL in a city doesn't guarantee success. The 188 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: Rams and Chargers now have had an extended time in 189 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: LA and there is no buzz for either team, even 190 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: with the Rams winning is Super Bowl, but the charge 191 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: they're like less than zero. You go to a Chargers game, 192 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: it's eighty percent of the fans of the other team. 193 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: And the Cowboys came into town, it was ninety percent 194 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: cowboy fans, and the league can't have this. They need 195 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: to have LA embrace the NFL. Instead, they're afterthoughts behind 196 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: the Dodgers and the Lakers. So this is the league 197 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: saying to the Chargers, you know what, you have no 198 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: clue what you're doing. We're going to take charge, get 199 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: rid of these two guys and you're going to have 200 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: to eat that contract because he had one year left 201 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: on his contract, Brandon Staley, And you have to put 202 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: together a legitimate operation, you. 203 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: Think the league? 204 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: So you do think the league got in touch and 205 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: said you have to do yes that you don't understand 206 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 4: how it works with you. 207 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: Deen Spanos does not operate without being told what to do. 208 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: I promise an. 209 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: Idea how I orgs over the years, But most of 210 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 4: the times, when when an owner has a team, he 211 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 4: gets to decide what he wants to fire. 212 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: The head coach in the GM. 213 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 4: Well, he was basically givin a Yeah, there's some overstepping 214 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 4: and overreach that happens with the league, but that would 215 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 4: be very interesting if they said, okay, time to make 216 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 4: a move. 217 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: Well, I think, Matt, how important is the LA market 218 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: to the league. 219 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: I mean they have the You know, the NFL studios 220 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: are right there next to Sofi Stadium. The upper floors 221 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: are empty because that's where the League office eventually is 222 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 2: going to move the whole operation to LA. 223 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: They just awarded them another super Bowl. 224 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: They need LA to work and they're trying desperately, but 225 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: the Chargers are so inept in every level of their operation. 226 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: It's it's come to the point, and so now what 227 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: do you do? There's only one? 228 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: Why are we shocked by this? Though? Los Angeles was 229 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: never begging for a team? Thank you, Matt. 230 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: This was yeah, for twenty years or however long they 231 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: didn't have a team. I mean, my gosh, Well. 232 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: Matt, I've been on the air the entire time. Is 233 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: get more to get it there than any fans. Well, 234 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: I blame in the league and. 235 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: In the LA Times. Was working harder than anybody there. 236 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: They didn't they there was never some huge movement for this. 237 00:11:59,800 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: Man. 238 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: I was on the air the entire time that there 239 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: was no NFL in LA. So I mean here I've been. 240 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: I always said, you know how these unsolicited phone calls 241 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: I got in those twenty years. 242 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: Hey Hartman, when are we going to get an NFL 243 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: team that would be zero. 244 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: Never once did I ever receive a phone call from 245 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: someone saying. 246 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: Hey, Hartman, when are we going to get an NFL team? 247 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: It never happened. 248 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: But now the league is desperate because this Charger team 249 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: is worse than advertised. They I mean, I could have 250 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: told them in advance how inep this organization was. But 251 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: to do that on national TV. It wasn't like the 252 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: Cowboys rolled up forty two or the Chiefs rolled up 253 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: forty two. 254 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: It was the Raiders. 255 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: The Raiders with a rookie quarterback eight in ocado. 256 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 3: It was a national embarrassment. 257 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, whether it was a direct call 258 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: or just a nudge in the right direction, the league 259 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: has got to get this organization right because they have 260 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: lost La. 261 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: They never get in LA. There's no grounds. 262 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: The sixth year the Chargers have been in LA, the 263 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: seventh year of the Rams have been in LA. Sure 264 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: there's some Rams fans, Yeah, there may be a couple 265 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: of Chargers fans, including my youngest son, But there's no 266 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: ground swell to build that fan base in LA. 267 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: And the NFL folks follow them at all. Not at 268 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: the end. They just they gave it. They just so 269 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: mad I'm just saying once Philip Rivers was gone, that 270 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: was the end of them. None of those people are 271 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: making the trip right now. 272 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 2: The sentiment out of San Diego, Matt is uh now, 273 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: they're your problem, not ours anymore. So uh so, But 274 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 2: I will tell you what direction they're going to go 275 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: as far as a coach, and I do want to 276 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: hear about your Cowboys who and I say your Cowboys 277 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: because obviously you cover this team very much, Matt, and 278 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you why I'm still skeptical because 279 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: they look good. 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Right here on Fox Sports Radio 323 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: and the iHeartRadio app. So one game of the books today, 324 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: one game going on, one game later, Full slate tomorrow. 325 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: Joining us right now is our NFL insider for Fox Sports, 326 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan. 327 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: But I'm going to go back in Thursday. So, Adam. 328 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: I took my sons to the game at Allegian Stadium, 329 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: my first trip to see the Raiders, my former organization 330 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: in Vegas. 331 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: It's an impressive place. I liked it a lot. 332 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: The game, though, got so out of hand it was 333 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: absolutely ridiculous. And I was sharing this with Matt. As 334 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: you know, I have known Dean Spanos for over thirty years. 335 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: To say that we're friends would be a lie. 336 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: We're not. 337 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: I know everything about Dean and he knows that I 338 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: know everything about Dean. But here's my best guess about 339 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: not only the firing of Brandon Staley, but if Tom 340 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: Toe LESCo as well. Is that the league they knew 341 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: this was not a well run organization, but I don't 342 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: think they fully grasped what a dismal organization this is. 343 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: And they're in a market of value obviously Los Angeles, 344 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: and I get a sense that, whether it's directly or indirect, 345 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: because I know Dean doesn't do anything unless he's told 346 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 2: to do something, they're basically almost trying to take control 347 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: of this organization because what has happened in LA is 348 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: not good. 349 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: The two teams that were. 350 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: Brought into LA without any buddy in LA screaming for 351 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: the NFL, and that was right about that. It's not 352 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: working and they're not generating a new fan base for 353 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: these teams. The fans that do show up at so 354 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: far usually of the opposing team. The Chargers have had 355 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: to use a silent count for their offense in home 356 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: games all season long, and it's almost like the league says, 357 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: this cannot happen. 358 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: We cannot fail in LA. 359 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: And I almost get a sense at and maybe I'm 360 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: way off based on this, but I get a sense, 361 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: knowing Dean as well as I do that. This is 362 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: coming from a higher source that he's going to have 363 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: to eat contract, which is something he doesn't want to do, 364 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: and they're going to have to get an impact coach. 365 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm talking Jim Arbaugh into LA to turn this mess 366 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: around with charge your organization. 367 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: What are you hearing? What's your input? All right? 368 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 9: I mean we don't have an hour. So I've been 369 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 9: working on this for like six weeks. Remember you and 370 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 9: I debated and I told you that do not think 371 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 9: that they won't fire Brandon Stalion season. You did point 372 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 9: out correctly that they don't have. 373 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 5: A history of doing it. 374 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 9: In fact, the only time this ownership has done it 375 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 9: is with Kevin Gilbride in the first season where it 376 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 9: didn't go well. 377 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 5: I think Kevin would win. 378 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 9: A Super Bowl as a coordinator with the Giants, but no, 379 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 9: they look this was going to happen, whether it was 380 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 9: this week as it happened, which the embarrassment of sixty 381 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 9: three points would do it for you, or right after 382 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 9: the season. I told you when we talked four weeks 383 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 9: ago about this, though it was a little bit earlier 384 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 9: to even consider it. What I'd said was he was 385 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 9: losing the team is particularly on defense because a team 386 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 9: so first told me that the players could not grasp 387 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 9: the defense. Because what happened was the front office and 388 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 9: other people got involved in some of the coaching changes 389 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 9: after last season. They wanted Stale to fix the defense. 390 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 9: They made the change with Joe Lombardi. Yes it was 391 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 9: Staley's decision, but he did input from others, I'm told 392 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 9: from the front office and ownership, and so he did 393 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 9: that and they thought he'd get the defense right. It 394 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 9: was an abject disaster. It was terrible, not competitive, and 395 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 9: this is his side of the football. So Dean Spanles, 396 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 9: who made the call, look, well, let's leave the stuff 397 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 9: you were talking about to the side. 398 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 5: I'm just downing. 399 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 9: It's not nothing to do with it. What happened was 400 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 9: is this guy had to go. It's just it was obvious. 401 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 9: Again why believor the point And I could tell you 402 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 9: there were some people there like Brandon very personally personally 403 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 9: very well, is a good person, but they felt he 404 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 9: could not get the thing right. 405 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 5: It was so obvious Steve he had to go. 406 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 9: Sometimes you see it and you felt bad for the 407 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 9: guy because if watching his press conferences, he seems so 408 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 9: belieguered like like This is a I like to call 409 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 9: it a mercy firing. But you felt so bad for 410 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 9: the guy. It was so obvious that he couldn't get 411 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 9: anything done. And I hate to see when guy struggle 412 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 9: like that, knowing a lot of coaches as I do, 413 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 9: but it wasn't good at work. Now, let's fast forward here, 414 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 9: just spending money. They have talked to some coaches. In fact, Staley, 415 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 9: there were three other teams involved. In fact, the Eagles 416 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 9: really wanted to talk to him. The Chargers knew this 417 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 9: and hired him before the Eagles could do it. They're 418 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 9: not going to spend ten million a year, but they 419 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 9: they'll spend. They'll be competitive enough to spend six or seven. 420 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 9: But they're not going to get like is Jim Harball 421 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 9: going to spurn that deal that he's got waiting for 422 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 9: him at Michigan? And you know, you know by the 423 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 9: way those public those contracts are made public. I know 424 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 9: that they've been negotiating this with him, his extension. But 425 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 9: remember where Steve where was his first job as a 426 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 9: head coach University of San Diego. I understand it's the 427 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 9: same market though, and you're right though they absolutely need 428 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 9: to kick I could tell you if I'm being around 429 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 9: this team for over well over decade and they moved 430 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 9: to LA they know they have an uphill ballot to 431 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 9: get fans and there in Los Angeles sharing the same stadium. 432 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 9: By the way, it's not going to happen. They could 433 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 9: go hire a great coach. But even if they win. 434 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 9: From talking to so on high up in their organization, 435 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 9: they they know how tough it is because you're not 436 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 9: just bowling for the Rams or with the Rams having 437 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 9: two football teams in Los Angeles. 438 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 5: Steve, you know you're from that market. 439 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: It's tough, Adam. 440 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: Can we talk about some good teams? Can we talk 441 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 4: about the Eagles and Cowboys and Niners? By the way, 442 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 4: Eagles security chief Dom Desandro big Dom breaking news will 443 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 4: not have sideline access for the remainder of the regular season. 444 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: So he's they think he could come back for the playoffs. 445 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it doesn't. 446 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 9: I mean, honestly, it's a non story story. 447 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 4: Well I guess, but it's like lead headline on some 448 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 4: sites right now. 449 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, but no, But what I'm saying is, so who 450 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 9: cares that he can't be on the sideline during the game, 451 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 9: by the way, as he did the last time he 452 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 9: escorted Syriana out the field. He just couldn't be on 453 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 9: the sideline. Still, I know Don personally, he's a good dude. 454 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 9: He's his phenomenous job. You guys know these directors security 455 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 9: are very important. Now. It's one thing. If he was 456 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 9: banned from actually going to the games, that's a different story, 457 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 9: which is not which I never thought would happened anyway. 458 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 9: But yeah, look it's the Eagles are certainly reeling and 459 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 9: as you know, Matt covering the business this market in Philly, 460 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 9: that fans are up in arms and now a dary 461 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 9: slave's going to be out for a while their best corner. 462 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 9: And you know, look, sky's falling. Talk ready, here's ridiculous. 463 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 9: Fans won everybody fired. It's kind of comical. 464 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: Well, let's stay with the Cowboys for a second here, 465 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: because the Cowboys obviously are rolling right now, and they 466 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 2: blow the doors off the Eagles. Whether they had a 467 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: fully loaded secondary or not, the Cowboys are clicking right now. 468 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: Prescott is playing outstanding football. 469 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: Now they go on the road against the Bills, and 470 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 2: the Bills wake up with the big road win against 471 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, and you know, if you had circled this 472 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: game before the season Bills at home, you would favor 473 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: the Bills, and the Bills actually are a slight favorite 474 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 2: at home in this game. So I'm going to get 475 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: into this with Matt a little bit later. But give 476 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: me a reason to bl be lave that the Cowboys, 477 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 2: who have been the ultimate teas for the last twenty 478 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: five thirty years, have finally arrived to trust as a 479 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: team in a big showdown on the road like this game. 480 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: Convince me or convince me against. 481 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: Well, the idea that the Cowboys have actually gotten to 482 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: that point. 483 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 9: Well, it's funny you ask it that way because I 484 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 9: do television for Sports Grid and with Scott Farrell on Fridays, 485 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 9: I'm on there three days a week. And he actually 486 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 9: asked me that because we go and we picked the 487 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 9: games on Fridays, and I said, look, I've felt the 488 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 9: Cowboys that they. 489 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 5: Fail in every big moment. 490 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 9: You just go back to Jason Garrett, you just go 491 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 9: back decades, as you said, Steve, for the most part, 492 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 9: that's been the case. Now, the reason why I'm going 493 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 9: to pick the Bills, I see some the Cowboys because 494 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 9: Dak Prescott has not played this well in years, and 495 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 9: I could tell you. If I'm talking to people close 496 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 9: to situation, do not unestimate the addition to Brian Schottheimer 497 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 9: as the offenseive coordinator. I know he's not calling the plays, 498 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 9: but he is a super aggressive play called. He was 499 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 9: the one who went to the Seahawks front office and 500 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 9: Pete pig Caroln twenty twenty. The lett Russ Cook thing 501 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 9: was really more Broughten Schoenheimer's idea. 502 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 5: He wanted to throw the football. 503 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 9: He's very analytically based and could you believe the Cowboys 504 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 9: in first half play calls of each game are throwing 505 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 9: them ball sixty four percent of the time, even higher 506 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 9: than the Eagles. He goes are a number eleven that 507 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 9: the Cowboys are number nine. Mike McCarthy was not that 508 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 9: aggressive before he came here. 509 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting Schottenheimer getting some credit here. I mean, 510 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: the man who had an appendec to me came off 511 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 4: the operating table. I mean that was big time McCarthy 512 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 4: out there. He showed great energy, and I think his 513 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 4: team responded to him. 514 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: This is gonna be fascinating. By the way, ninety percent chance. 515 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 4: Of rain about forty won't be that cold forty in 516 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 4: Buffalo that'll be tough. 517 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: You realize Dak is going to end up with the. 518 00:24:54,880 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 4: Biggest contract in NFL history, Like he'll surpass the Borough 519 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 4: because it's Dallas. It's he's having an MVP season, and 520 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 4: they got to do his deal. They got to do Micah, 521 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 4: they got to do CD and Adam. You've always been 522 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 4: really good on contracts, that sort of understanding the. 523 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: Cap and all of that. 524 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: That's extremely tough because you have, you have three of 525 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 4: the best players at their position in all the league, 526 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 4: and you got to get them done in relatively the 527 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 4: same amount of time. I mean, something has to give. 528 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 4: But I mean I think Nak is gonna blow everything away. 529 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: I mean he's thirty, but that doesn't mean anything anymore, right, 530 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 4: I Mean they're thirty to thirty five. 531 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: There is when they're at their best. 532 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 9: So, Matt, this is interesting because you know this from 533 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 9: covering the team closely. Jerry Jones has this really bad 534 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 9: history of waiting to extend contracts. You try to you 535 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 9: try to get them done earlier so you don't pay 536 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 9: market prices, and they know because Jerry put it off. 537 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 9: You know, he's talked about it. So Stephen Jones, his 538 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 9: son for nine months now. They yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, 539 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 9: we have to get it done. We have to get 540 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 9: it done. So they waited and and here we are 541 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 9: and that contract will be a minimum fifty five million 542 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 9: a year. Todd Franz is his agent. Todd does some 543 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 9: of the best deals in the National Football League. It's 544 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 9: never easy talking to contract negotiation with doing with France. 545 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 5: He's great at what he does. And then you've got 546 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 5: Michael Parsons. It's just it's surely interesting. These are sort 547 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 5: of good problems to have. But look, Dak is playing 548 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 5: some of the best ball of his career. 549 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 9: He went from have a zero chance for the first 550 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 9: half of the season to even talked about the MVP. Heck, 551 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 9: he wasn't even a top ten quarterback. But they are 552 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 9: so aggressive call throwing the football downfield. 553 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: I love it. 554 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 9: When I was there at training camp and I knew 555 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 9: Brandon Cooks could still play, and I think that that 556 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 9: MCL's bring probably slowed him down a little bit earlier 557 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 9: in the season. But he looks great. They're playing really, 558 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 9: really well, but the thing for them is to handle success. 559 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 9: Matt that's the biggest criticism of people I've talked around 560 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 9: the league on the Cowboys. You got and Steve was 561 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 9: alluding to us, and he's right, you got to handle success. Well, 562 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 9: you can't think you've arrived. And that's one thing McCarthy's 563 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 9: got to get through to his players here. 564 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 2: Absolutely right, Adam, unbelievable that the week fifteen, I mean. 565 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: We barely started. 566 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: This question could go longer, to be honest, I mean 567 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: I know we got always got more, but yeah, I 568 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: know you got more. Adam has always appreciated. We'll catch 569 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: up with you next week. Thanks so much. Thanks Adam 570 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: Kaplan joining us there our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider. 571 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: Let's find out what is trending right now. Kevin Wirt 572 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 2: is in the house. Kevin, what's going on? 573 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: Man? 574 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 8: Yeah, we got the second of our NFL triple header 575 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 8: today and don't look now, but the Indianapolis Colts have 576 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 8: scored three uncer touchdowns after the Steelers took in early 577 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 8: thirteen to nothing leads. So it's twenty one to thirteen 578 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 8: in favor of Indianapolis. And that's because Gardner Minchell He's 579 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 8: done three touchdown passes already and we're about two quarters 580 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 8: plus a few minutes into this game. So Gardner Minshew 581 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 8: playing incredibly well as the Colts now seven and six, 582 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 8: same with the Steelers, So win by either of these 583 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 8: two teams really makes a difference in the playoff standings. 584 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 8: That's because the Bengals won earlier today against the Minnesota Vikings. Now, 585 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 8: this game started off incredibly mundane, a matchup of backup quarterbacks, 586 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 8: but it really heated up in that second half, and 587 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 8: the Bengals, down seventeen to three at one point, tie 588 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 8: it up on a t Higgins touchdown catch. And this 589 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 8: is one of the best catches of the year. I mean, 590 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 8: he caught it sure of the goal line, had to 591 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 8: fight a tackle to stretch his arm across the goal line. 592 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 8: They ruled it a good touchdown that tied the game 593 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 8: at twenty four. The Bengals then in overtime, with the 594 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 8: Vikings having the ball fourth and short, just outside a 595 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 8: field goal range, stopped on fourth and sure, they tried 596 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 8: that brotherly shove tush push play however you want to 597 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 8: call it, but the Bengals defense holding strong. They would 598 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 8: then march in a field goal range where they'd win 599 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 8: a twenty seven to twenty four And now in the 600 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 8: playoffs standings, the Bengals, despite losing Joe Burrow find themselves 601 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 8: in the number six spot. So a lot to be 602 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 8: determined still in the AFC playoff standings, especially depending on 603 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 8: how this game turns out between the Steelers and the Colts. 604 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 8: One other game coming up later tonight, the nightcap at 605 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 8: eight fifteen Eastern time, the Broncos in Detroit Lions at 606 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 8: Ford Field. As for the college ranks, we had a 607 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 8: couple of great games earlier today, especially that Celebration Bowl. 608 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 8: Howard was up sixteen to ten at the break and 609 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 8: it was a back and forth fourth quarter after that 610 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 8: where Florida A and M comes back to win the 611 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 8: HBCU National Championship thirty to twenty six. 612 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: Myrtle Beach Bowl. 613 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 8: Not nearly as exciting, the Ohio Bobcats run away within 614 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 8: forty one to twenty one against Georgia Southern. A couple 615 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 8: other games in action right now. They are in the 616 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 8: fourth quarter in New Orleans and it's all noted up 617 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 8: between Jacksonville State and Louisiana, and actually Jacksonville State going 618 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 8: in winning it in overtime as the scoreboard refreshes right there, 619 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 8: Jacksonville State thirty. 620 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: Four to thirty one. 621 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 8: There as they went in overtime, a little lagging right 622 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 8: there in the fourth quarter about three minutes ago. Appalachian 623 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 8: State leading Miami of Ohio thirteen to nine. At the 624 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 8: next the Avocados for Mexico Cure Bowl in Orlando, it's 625 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 8: again that looked like it has been played in the monsoon, 626 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 8: with it being low scoring and you can hardly see 627 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 8: the game on the TV right now. And then in 628 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 8: the New Mexico Bowl, Fresno State leading New Mexico State 629 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 8: ten to nothing. They've got eleven forty to go win 630 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 8: the second Quarterback to you guys, all. 631 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: Right, Kevin. 632 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: As far as those bowl games are concerned, some of 633 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: the titles for these bowl games are so long you 634 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: can just say and in another bowl game, yeah much, 635 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, who cares whether the names of 636 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: any of these bowl games are Kevin? Thank you so much. 637 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: Once again, Steve Harmon, Matt Mosley with you. This is 638 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday. We're coming alive from the tire rack 639 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: dot Com studios. All right, I want to get back 640 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: to the Cowboys here. Matt so a perfect seven to 641 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: zero at home this year. They have three road wins 642 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: this year against the Giants, the Chargers and the Panthers. 643 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna dare say, I'm going to go out on 644 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: the limb that the Bills are a better team than 645 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: any one of those three teams. So I asked Adam, 646 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: But I'm more concerned about your answer to try to 647 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: convince me and believe me. You know, the whole bringing 648 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson into the Ring of Honor. I feel like 649 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: Jerry Jones is trying to change the dynamic, maybe getting 650 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: the football gods a smile on him, like they owe 651 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: him what Like I keep saying at some point the 652 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: Cowboys are going to have a breakthrough season. 653 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 3: At some point. 654 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: Well, maybe they won't, but it convinced me now because 655 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: they're the hot team. Everyone's jumping on the Cowboys bandwagon. 656 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: You've covered this team for a long time, Matt. If 657 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: anything feels different about this year, tell us what is 658 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: it about this year's team that is different from years 659 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: past when we thought the Cowboys would have a breakthrough 660 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: season and obviously came up short. 661 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: I think they kind of know who they are right now. 662 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: I think they've had some identity issues in the past, 663 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 4: and I think Dak's playing so well that they thought 664 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 4: they were going to run the ball a lot this 665 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 4: year and lean on a defense, and it turns out 666 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: they still can lean on the defense at times. 667 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: They have a great pass rush. 668 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 4: But Dak is throwing it so well that that's what 669 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 4: they win with, and it's throwing the ball downfield making plays. 670 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: And then they've had a tight end emerge, and the 671 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 4: Cowboys have always been at their best when they have 672 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 4: a great tight end. And Jake Ferguson, I don't know 673 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 4: if he's great yet, but he's really really I mean, 674 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 4: I don't know how much you've watched him these last 675 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 4: five six weeks, Steve, he's emerged as and he's already 676 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 4: surpassed like what Dalton Schultz was. And Dalton Schultz is 677 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 4: really good for Dak, but Ferguson is nastier. He seems 678 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 4: to be more athletic. He catches the ball extremely well. 679 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 4: So again, the Cowboys function well when they have a 680 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 4: good tight end. And they're incredibly deep at wide receiver 681 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 4: right now. I mean, you know, Gallup's kind of coming on. 682 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 4: He can make some plays hardy, I mean, they just 683 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 4: kind of they're deep there. And then Cooks we were 684 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 4: talking about with Adam is getting better and better I mean, 685 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 4: and CD is probably a top two or three wide 686 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 4: receiver in the NFL right now. So there's no there's 687 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 4: really no weak spots. I mean, they have issues, like 688 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 4: a lot of teams with depth in their O line, 689 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 4: but when everybody's healthy on the O line, they can 690 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 4: be dominant. Das had plenty of time. Uh So I 691 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 4: think this does feel different. But to your point from earlier, 692 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 4: they do have to do it on the road at 693 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 4: some point. I mean they you know, they their best 694 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 4: road win is I don't know. I mean, now we 695 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: know how bad the Chargers are. At the time, that 696 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 4: seemed like an okay win, there's no there's three and 697 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 4: three on the road. 698 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 699 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: The Giants and the Carolina Panthers are the other two 700 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: wins on the road. 701 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 4: Those are Giants are a little better lately with the veto, 702 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 4: but those are bad teams. 703 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 704 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 4: Uh and so yeah, they that this is a this 705 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 4: is a great you know, that was a test against 706 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 4: the Eagles that they passed with flying colors. Can they 707 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: beat a good team? And I know people say, well 708 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 4: the Eagles don't look that good right now. Well, they 709 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 4: came in with what two losses in that game? They 710 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: came in a two loss team, I mean at ten 711 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 4: and two, I think you got to show them some respect, 712 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 4: and the Cowboys went out there and just beat them down. 713 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 4: Cowboys are great at home, but the Cowboys desperately need 714 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 4: to be at home in the playoffs. Like that's the 715 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 4: part Steve that like more than any other team right now, 716 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 4: the Cowboys desperately need to be at home because if 717 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 4: they have to go on the road. Now, maybe in 718 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 4: that wild card they could get an easy first round game, 719 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 4: but the second round game, it's just been too tough 720 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 4: for them. Fifteen straight at at and t It's, for 721 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 4: whatever reason, turned into one of the great home field 722 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 4: advantages in the NFL. 723 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: And I never would have predicted it. 724 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 4: With the huge scoreboard, the jumbo tron, and all the 725 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 4: massive stuff that's there, all the eye candy that people get, 726 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 4: you know, are looking around. It's become loud and they 727 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 4: bludgeon teams there. 728 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: The only close game was against the Seahawks. 729 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 4: But I cannot tell you how important how Boys do 730 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 4: not function well on the road in the playoffs if 731 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: they could be at home. 732 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: Jerry and I think. 733 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 4: A lot of people think they finally have a chance 734 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 4: by the way, they haven't been to an NFC title 735 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 4: game in twenty eight years. 736 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: Yes. 737 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: On the other side, I want to get into this, 738 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: Matt about pretenders versus true contenders, including this week. Only 739 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 2: four weeks left in the regular season of the National 740 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: Football League. It seems like half the AFC is at 741 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: seven to six and we started this week already. One 742 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: team's gotten eight and six. That would be the Bengals 743 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: with their victory today as they moved to that number. 744 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 3: But I want to go over some of these. 745 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 2: Teams with you because I have a pretty clear sense 746 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 2: in my mind which teams we could actually cross off 747 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: as pretenders in terms of winning a conference championship and 748 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: getting to the Super Bowl. We're going to tell you 749 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: who they are. This is Fox Football Saturday, Steve Harman 750 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: and Matt Mose. This is Fox Football Saturday. We are 751 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: live from the tire IRAQ dot Com studios and just 752 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: checking on Indianapolis. With that twenty four to thirteen lead 753 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: four minutes to go in the third quarter, a battle 754 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: of seven and sixteens. By the way Steelers go down, 755 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: that would be three straight losses. At least this week 756 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 2: they would lose to a decent team. Speaking of decent teams, Matt. 757 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: When I look at both the AFC and the NFC 758 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 2: right now, and by the way, you mentioned how important 759 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 2: was for the Cowboys to have home field advantage, I'll 760 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: tell you a team that definitely needs home field advantage, 761 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 2: and that's the Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes has never had a 762 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: road playoff game. Well, actually he had won, and that 763 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: was the Super Bowl against the Buccaneers in Tampa, and 764 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 2: that game did not go well at all. Otherwise, he's 765 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: never actually had a road playoff game in his entire career. 766 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: And if you look at the AFC right now and 767 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 2: the NFC, if the two teams currently sitting in the 768 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: one seed, the Ravens and the forty nine Ers, secure 769 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 2: home field, no. 770 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 3: One's going to beat them. The Cowboys, are the Eagles 771 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 3: or the Lions. No one's gonna go into San Francisco. 772 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: Now, again, this is all predicated on the idea that 773 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 2: your quarterback is healthy. But no one's going to go 774 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 2: into San Francisco and beat the forty nine ers if 775 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 2: they're healthy. 776 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 3: And I feel the same way about the Ravens. 777 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: If Lamar Jackson is healthy, do you see any teams 778 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 2: that could win a road playoff game in a conference 779 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: championship game and beat either the Ravens or the forty 780 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: nine Ers. 781 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 4: I don't really see anybody beating the Niners. The Cowboys 782 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 4: would get another crack at them after getting beat whatever 783 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 4: it was forty two to ten. I do think this 784 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 4: is a much different Cowboys team, but I don't think 785 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 4: they're built to win huge games like that on the road. 786 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: The Ravens, I probably don't. 787 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 4: Have as much confidence as you do in them. 788 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: I think if. 789 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 4: The Bills could beat the Cowboys and get rolling, I 790 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 4: think the Chiefs, I'd never count them out. They've had 791 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 4: some really tough home losses this year and they don't 792 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 4: all they just haven't looked the same, and they've had 793 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 4: some kind of ridiculous things happen. But their pedigree is such, 794 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 4: so I just don't I don't have the respect for 795 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 4: the Ravens that that's like a lockdown if they get 796 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 4: full home fill advantage, even if Lamar is healthy. I 797 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 4: don't think of them like I think of the forty 798 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 4: nine Ers. I don't think they're nearly as good a 799 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 4: team as San Francisco. 800 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's fair, and I've been saying all along. 801 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 2: I felt like on the NFC side before the Eagles 802 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: obviously got blown out, the last couple of weeks that 803 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 2: you know in the NFC was the Eagles and the 804 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: forty nine ers, and it was the Ravens and the 805 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: Chiefs on the AFC side. I keep waiting for the 806 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 2: Chiefs to wake up up. I mean, they were screaming 807 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 2: about that blatant off side penalty that you know, cost 808 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: them a possible victory obviously against the Bills. And of 809 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 2: course you know Mahomes has stepped that back and everything else. 810 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 2: But they just haven't looked right all season long. Their 811 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: wide receivers suck. They've been dropping balls all over the place. 812 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 2: Teams have finally realized, gee, if we double up on Kelsey, 813 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: what else do they have? 814 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: And it's not a lot. I just I don't see it. 815 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: And the Chiefs, again with Mahomes at quarterback, have never 816 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 2: played a playoff game on the road. I mean, the 817 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 2: Super Bowls are neutral site games except the one game 818 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 2: they played in Tampa and got They got blown out 819 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 2: of that game. And that knows how neither one of 820 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 2: us are talking about the Dolphins. See I put the 821 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 2: Cowboys sort of in the same breath as the Dolphins. 822 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: Because the Dolphins and the Cowboys all season long have 823 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: really been beating up on some bad teams and putting 824 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 2: up some very impressive numbers. But does that translate into 825 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: the kind of grit necessarily to guide them to, you know, 826 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: all the way to the Super Bowl. 827 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 4: The Dolphins have felt somewhat fraudulent to me. I do 828 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 4: think they put up amazing numbers. I like to obviously 829 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 4: I love their wide receivers, but no, it does not 830 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 4: seem like a team that's going to march through the 831 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 4: playoffs and do major damage. 832 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and then you got the Jaguars. I mean, 833 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: the Browns are eight and five. I mean, you know, 834 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: and going back, the Lions are nine and four. Does 835 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: anybody believe in these teams? So again, unless the Chiefs 836 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: start showing me that they resemble the team we've seen 837 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 2: in the last couple of years, I'm sorry. The Ravens 838 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 2: and forty nine ers are on track for a Super 839 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: Bowl meeting, which will buy a bit the rematch from 840 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 2: many years ago. We got much more coming up. Keep 841 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: it right here. This is Fox Football Saturday. 842 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 843 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 6: the Nation. 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We are broadcasting 851 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 2: live from the Tyraq dot com studios tyrack dot com. 852 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna help get you there, and I'm Matt Selection 853 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 2: Fast free shipping, free road aser protection, over ten thousand 854 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: recommending installers, ty rack dot com. The way tire buying 855 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 2: should be so. Andy Reid just got fined one hundred 856 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Patrick Mahomes got fined fifty thousand dollars for 857 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 2: bitching the moaning about the officiating in that loss to 858 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 2: the Bills. You know, there was a sense of privilege. 859 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: I guess with the Chiefs after the game that they 860 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 2: should have had the officials tell them that Tony was 861 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 2: actually lined up off sides. I don't see that in 862 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 2: the rule book. I mean, sometimes the officials say, hey, guy, 863 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 2: moving back a little bit. Maybe they feel like, well, 864 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 2: we're the Chiefs, you owe it to us. But apparently not. 865 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 2: And by the way, that wasn't the last play of 866 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 2: the game. They turned it over on downs after that, 867 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: so they must have forgotten that part of what happened otherwise. 868 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 2: But and it just gets back to what I say 869 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 2: about the Chiefs. You know, there was this thing about 870 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 2: Tom Brady, the reason that Tom Brady, and now, of 871 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 2: course in the aftermath of Brady leaving the Patriots. 872 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean, here's something to keep. 873 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 2: In mind, including this obviously disastrous season for Belichick. This 874 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: makes eleven years at Belichick in the course of his career, 875 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 2: five in Cleveland, six and New England has not had 876 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 2: Tom Brady as his starting quarterback. And in those eleven 877 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 2: years he will have won a total one playoff game 878 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 2: without Tom Brady. 879 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 3: So you know who made who. But here's the thing 880 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 3: about Brady. 881 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: Back in the day, so Brady, you know, they could 882 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 2: take a Wes Welker off the waiver wire, or you know, 883 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 2: convert a former college quarter like Julian Edelman and suddenly 884 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,240 Speaker 2: make them all pro players when you have Tom Brady 885 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 2: a quarterback. And I think the Chiefs Runner, the delusion 886 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 2: they could do the exact same thing with Patrick Mahomes. 887 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 2: You know, you lose Tyreek Hill and they overcame that 888 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: to win a Super Bowl of years ago. Then they 889 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 2: lose Juju Smith Schuster, and they got a bunch of 890 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 2: guys that dropped the ball, and suddenly Mahomes looks ordinary. 891 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 2: You still have to have guys on the receiving end 892 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 2: of the ball. So to me, again, this is what 893 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 2: separates Tom Brady from the rest of the path because yeah, 894 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 2: he had Gronk, he had Randy Moss for a couple 895 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 2: of years, but outside of that, a bunch of guys 896 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 2: and yet didn't matter. They were in the Super Bowl 897 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 2: seemingly every other year and winning Super Bowls as well. 898 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: And so this is why I look at the Chiefs 899 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 2: right now and I just don't see the Chiefs team 900 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 2: that we've seen over the last five years. 901 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: They don't. 902 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 4: But I do think I don't think it's any kind 903 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 4: of delusion. I think he's proven his greatness and Mahomes 904 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 4: is already legendary, and I think he will elevate. 905 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you see a mistake. 906 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 4: Like what Tony did, you want to just move on 907 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 4: from them, But year after year they do lose really 908 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 4: good receivers and he still puts up unbelievable numbers. I mean, 909 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 4: the one common denominator is that tied in with Kelsey. 910 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 4: But I just would never give up on him because 911 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 4: I think he elevates his game so much. 912 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: Now you've had a good point. 913 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 4: If they have to go on the road, it is 914 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 4: going to feel different and look different, but it's still 915 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 4: the same system and it's still the unbelievable quarterback. 916 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: So I. 917 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,919 Speaker 4: Have trouble moving off of the Chiefs just because they've 918 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 4: done it so often. And I do not think like 919 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 4: I never think of him as looking ordinary. I mean, 920 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 4: I do think he threw a fit last week and 921 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 4: that it was somewhat unbecoming of him because he just 922 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 4: lost it. But he just couldn't believe in that moment 923 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 4: when generally you know a receiver looks over and they'll 924 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 4: help you out a little bit, that they let that 925 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 4: impact the game, except for when you look back at 926 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 4: it and realized. 927 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: He was like a full yard off the wide of scrimmage. 928 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 4: But I yeah, I don't I think he's I think 929 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 4: the greatness is still there, and to me, he almost 930 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 4: never looks ordinary. 931 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to have a lot. 932 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 4: Going wrong around him for them to perform poorly, and 933 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,760 Speaker 4: quite honestly, they have had. 934 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: A lot around him going the wrong direction. 935 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 2: He has the lowest passer rating of his career. He's 936 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 2: twelfth in the league and passer rating this year. He's 937 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 2: also fourth in the league in interceptions thrown. I think 938 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 2: the problem again is dealing with adversity. He hasn't had 939 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 2: a lot of adversity. Remember they have hosted the AFC 940 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 2: Championship Game five years in a row and lost two 941 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 2: of those by the way, and the frustration to me 942 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 2: what happened in the end of that Bills game was 943 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 2: he's just normally by this time. Like last year, after 944 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 2: losing Tyreek Hill, they started the year slowly, but as 945 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 2: the year moved on, all of a sudden, the Chiefs 946 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 2: at their stride and obviously navigated themselves all the way 947 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 2: to another Super Bowl time. I'm not going to take 948 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 2: away anything that he has done. Ye, Like I say, 949 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 2: this guy's always secured his spot in NFL history. 950 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 4: But who wouldn't trade for him? Like, what team in 951 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 4: the entire NFL wouldn't trade straight up for him? 952 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: Right now, So you would replace right now Dak Prestott 953 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 2: or Patrick. 954 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 4: This consolutely yes, in a heartbeat. I think Dak probably 955 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 4: deserves to win the MVP. There's not a single franchise 956 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 4: that wouldn't trade for him. I mean, if you're talking 957 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 4: about the next five years, Cincinnati would do it with Burrow. 958 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,720 Speaker 4: You go right down the line. There's not a single 959 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 4: organization that wouldn't trade for him. Well, it will be 960 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 4: interesting to see again because we never seen. Look, he 961 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 4: may he may do it again. 962 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 5: You know. 963 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 2: And I even said a year ago, and I ate 964 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 2: my words because I thought you lose Tyreek Hill. It 965 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 2: changes the whole dynamic of the offense because it was 966 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 2: pick your poison, You're gonna cover double up on Tyreegan, 967 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 2: to cover up on Kelsey. They overcame that to win 968 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. So I'm all in on Mahomes. But 969 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 2: what has concerned me if I'm concerned, I'm not a 970 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 2: big Chiefs fan. But what concerns me about this year's 971 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 2: Chiefs team. They've looked ordinary all season long. Their offense 972 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: is not generating anywhere near the production that we have 973 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 2: seen over the last five years. So that's why at 974 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 2: least in the moment, I do not include them in 975 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 2: the conversation. 976 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: I can't do that anymore. 977 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 2: The Cowboys are better than them right now, the Ravens 978 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 2: are better than them. I mean, there's a lot of 979 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 2: teams are playing much better football right now than the 980 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. 981 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: I do agree with that. 982 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 4: I mean, the only thing I would say on your 983 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 4: comment about the adversity man, he's had those playoff games 984 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 4: where he got down twenty eight to three or twenty 985 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 4: one to nothing, and then he had one where he 986 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 4: could barely you know, he was limping around, and he 987 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 4: still won the game. And he's and he's led comebacks 988 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 4: time and time again. So I think they function well 989 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 4: at home. You're right, I do think he's had some 990 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 4: adversity at times in the playoffs. I just think I 991 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 4: just think he's still the best. 992 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't. 993 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I think overall, you know, you could say 994 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 4: Purdy and Dak are playing better than him right now. 995 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: But I don't. 996 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 4: Think there's a single franchise that would be like, nah, 997 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 4: we're good with our guy. Like if they had the 998 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 4: chance to straight up trade for him, I think almost 999 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 4: every franchise would. 1000 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 2: All right, So by the way, Colt Sleety and the 1001 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 2: Steelers twenty seven and thirteen nine to seventeen to go 1002 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, Garden Minshew eighteen to twenty eight, 1003 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 2: two hundred fifty yards, three touchdowns, no picks. By the way, 1004 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 2: my son, my oldest son is twenty, has grown the 1005 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 2: Gardner minshew mustache. It's quite alarming. We were in Vegas 1006 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 2: and I kept looking at him, like, where have I 1007 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 2: seen that mustache before? That's right, that's the minshew mustache. Hey, 1008 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to find out from you map, because you know, 1009 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 2: we're in different regions of the country. What was the 1010 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 2: overall buzz about the decision on the college football playoff 1011 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 2: where they elevated you know, an eight seed Alabama into 1012 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 2: a top four slot, of seven seed Texas into a 1013 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 2: top four slot, and then dumped an undefeated Florida State 1014 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 2: right out of the playoff. 1015 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: What was the buzz down there? 1016 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,240 Speaker 6: Oh? 1017 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 4: I think everybody felt really bad for Florida State. 1018 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: But I'm in an area where there's. 1019 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,439 Speaker 4: Just tons of long horns, so they were just very 1020 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 4: happy to have their spot secured. And then it was 1021 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 4: kind of like, well, that's somebody else to worry about. 1022 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I think I just think the Florida State 1023 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 4: it was one of empathy and it's just really hard 1024 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 4: to see a team win every game and then you say, well, sorry, 1025 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 4: you don't have your starting quarterback and you played horrible. 1026 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 4: I mean, the offense looked horrible, so you can't be 1027 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 4: in it. But it's a and again, some of this 1028 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 4: expanded playoff will change that, but it just this was 1029 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 4: the unprecedented chaos scenario that we'd always kind of wondered about. 1030 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 4: But a lot of us down here, I mean, it's 1031 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 4: not the first time a team that was deserving was 1032 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,800 Speaker 4: kept out. Like twenty fourteen, nobody ever talks about it 1033 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 4: anymore because they weren't blue bloods. But both Baylor and TCU, 1034 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 4: and by the way, Baylor beat TCU that your had 1035 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 4: to add. But both of those teams, I mean TCU 1036 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 4: was number four and that last week and they beat 1037 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,240 Speaker 4: a team fifty five to three, and Ohio State jumped 1038 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 4: them in that final parodom. Ohio State proved to be 1039 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,240 Speaker 4: a worthy participant in that twenty fourteen season. 1040 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,240 Speaker 1: But I think. 1041 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 4: People get caught in this recency bias and go, oh, 1042 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,919 Speaker 4: this has never happened before. Hey, other teams have been 1043 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 4: unfairly left out. 1044 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is, I mean. 1045 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 4: Florida State probably would have been in a bad situation 1046 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,280 Speaker 4: in this playoff. 1047 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: Is that a reason to keep them out? I think 1048 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: that's the debate. 1049 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, but here's the problem again. 1050 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 2: The quarterback they used in the a SEC championship game 1051 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 2: was their third string quarterback. Their second string quarterback is 1052 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 2: a veteran quarterback who would have played in the playoff. Look, 1053 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 2: this was rigged from the beginning. And I said this 1054 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 2: when they started the playoff, and a not blaming ESPN, 1055 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 2: they're the one forking over all the money. But I said, 1056 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 2: if you're unhappy with the BCS championship game, when do 1057 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 2: you get a load of this four school playoff? You 1058 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 2: got five power conferences, meaning automatically at least one conference 1059 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 2: is going to be left out. And we've seen teams 1060 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 2: that didn't even get to their conference championship game get 1061 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 2: into the playoffs. So the whole thing was rigged from 1062 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 2: the beginning. But here was my one point about the 1063 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 2: quarterback situation. Of the nine teams that have won the 1064 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 2: college Football Playoff of the nine seasons, four of them 1065 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 2: started quarterbacks in the championship game that were not their 1066 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 2: starting quarterbacks at the beginning of the year. For of 1067 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,760 Speaker 2: the nine teams head including that first year with Ohio 1068 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 2: State with Cardel Jones, was their third string quarterback, so 1069 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 2: they thought they had like this built in excuse. Wow, 1070 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 2: you know they are on their third I'm sorry for 1071 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 2: of the nine teams that actually won the championship had 1072 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 2: their backup quarterbacks in the championship game that won the championship, 1073 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 2: So that was just a lame excuse. 1074 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,760 Speaker 1: They thought it would fly. It didn't. 1075 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think the twelve school playoff, I guess 1076 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 2: the big concern is and what's the feeling about Texas 1077 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 2: now moving into the SEC along with Oklahoma and this 1078 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 2: complete dismantleion of college football as we've known it all 1079 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 2: these years. I mean, my UCLA Bruins are going to 1080 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 2: limp into the Big Ten. Unfortunately we can't fire Chip 1081 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 2: Kelly because they won't pay off his contract. 1082 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: It's an absolute train wreck what's going on in UCLA 1083 00:52:58,680 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: right now. 1084 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 2: But I mean, going to go into the Big Ten 1085 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 2: get our doors blown off? I mean, is this ultimately 1086 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 2: going to be a positive moving forward? 1087 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 3: All these changes and by the way. There are more 1088 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 3: to come. 1089 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 2: But this idea of you know, to hell with tradition, 1090 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 2: wherever the money's being thrown around that's best for us, 1091 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,720 Speaker 2: is that gonna work for college football. 1092 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 4: Some of it will stay and some of them are 1093 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 4: going to keep playing each other. 1094 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: Texas at OU will always play. 1095 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 4: Now Texas and Texas, A and M will start playing again, 1096 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 4: and it'll be like it never happened. 1097 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: They're back to. 1098 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,919 Speaker 4: Get you know, A and M wanted its own thing, 1099 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,399 Speaker 4: and now Texas has followed it. In the SEC. That's 1100 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,879 Speaker 4: a huge rivalry. They'll play again. I don't know how 1101 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 4: Oklahoma will function. What Texas looks really good right now 1102 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 4: sarcasm in the right direction. They're recruiting beautifully. I mean, 1103 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 4: they're now the land of the five star. They're not 1104 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,720 Speaker 4: quite Georgia, but they're recruiting at a similar type level, 1105 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 4: and so they much as I hate to see it, well, 1106 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 4: they're they're coming into the SEC pretty hot. 1107 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 1: Now. I think this will beat them down. 1108 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 4: You know, there are there aren't as many breaks as 1109 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 4: maybe they would find in a big twelve schedule. But 1110 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,280 Speaker 4: let's not act like there aren't some teams that aren't 1111 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 4: that great in the SEC. We sometimes build the SEC 1112 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 4: to be bigger than it actually is. 1113 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 1: There's actually, what. 1114 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 4: Four really good teams and then a bunch of kind 1115 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 4: of OK teams and then two, two or three really 1116 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 4: bad teams. Right, I mean there's there, there's there's Georgia 1117 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 4: and Alabama, Uh, Texas, I don't know the way they're 1118 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 4: playing now may enter that group. Auburn is good once 1119 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 4: every seven or eight years, right, or every once a 1120 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 4: decade or something, they get a good team. So we 1121 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 4: probably overrate the you know, and like Missouri had a 1122 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 4: good year this year, Well that's once every what ten years? 1123 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: I think we overrated a little bit. 1124 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 4: It'd be interesting to see some of these conferences big 1125 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 4: ten what that's gonna look like. 1126 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be unwieldy. How many teams is that? 1127 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 4: It's hard to keep up with eighteen teams? See, it's 1128 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 4: just kind of weird. I mean the ACC. I keep 1129 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 4: trying to get it through my mind, Like, I mean, 1130 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 4: think about the teams going into that Stanford, Stanford in 1131 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 4: the SMU. All those teams are going to the ACC, 1132 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 4: and meanwhile Florida State, you know, desperately wanting out. The 1133 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 4: thing is I don't know if the SEC or the 1134 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,919 Speaker 4: Big ten's dying to have them right now, but they 1135 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 4: want out of the ACC. I mean, it's a mess. 1136 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 4: By the way, Florida State and the ACC did this 1137 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 4: to themselves with that whole alliance thing that they did. 1138 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 4: You know, because there were twelve team would have already 1139 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 4: been in place for this year had they not done 1140 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,840 Speaker 4: that in trying to form some kind of weird alliance 1141 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 4: that didn't work. 1142 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 1: And by the way, the Big Twelve and a lot of. 1143 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 4: Ways has surpassed the ACC, the new Big Twelve with 1144 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 4: Colorado and Dion, the whole gang in Utah and Arizona 1145 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 4: and Arizona State. I think you can make the argument 1146 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 4: it's a better conference than the ACC. 1147 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 2: All Right, Well, I'm again I'm a traditionalist. I think 1148 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 2: there's some goods. I'm not hanging on to tradition across 1149 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 2: the border. There are some things will be positive. And 1150 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 2: of course a lot of people just make the argument, well, 1151 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 2: tradition doesn't mean anything, create new traditions. We'll see if 1152 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 2: that actually happens with a completely different look for college 1153 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,359 Speaker 2: football in twenty twenty four. 1154 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 1: Coming up. 1155 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,720 Speaker 2: On the other side, we're going to talk about can 1156 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 2: you buy a championship? One team is going to find 1157 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 2: out because if they didn't pay the right guy, it 1158 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 2: could be a disaster. We'll explain. This is Fox Football Saturday. 1159 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:47,320 Speaker 2: Steve Hartman and Matt Moseley. This is Fox Football Saturday. 1160 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 2: We're coming you live from the tirag dot com studios. 1161 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 2: By the way, shortly after the show, our podcasts will 1162 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 2: be going out. If you miss any of today's show, 1163 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 2: be sure to check out the podcast. Just search Fox 1164 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,959 Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. 1165 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: Sure it also fall rate and review the podcast. Again. 1166 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, 1167 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,879 Speaker 2: and you'll see this show posted right after we get 1168 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 2: off the air. We just talked about all the big 1169 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 2: money floating around the college scene. Of course, in the 1170 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 2: professional ranks, it's always been about money, and the Dodgers 1171 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 2: just spent a boat load on show. Hey Otani, by 1172 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 2: the way, I know you are in football country, but 1173 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 2: it must have been sweet for the Texas Rangers to 1174 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 2: finally break through and win a World Series. Of course, 1175 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 2: guided by one of my favorite people in the world. 1176 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 2: I've known him for thirty years. That would be Bruce Bochi. 1177 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 2: Knowing him since he took over as the Padres manager 1178 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 2: way back in nineteen ninety five. There is no better 1179 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 2: person in my book in that business than Bruce Bouchie. 1180 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 2: But you know, I just find it interesting that the 1181 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 2: guy that won the series MVP is a guy that 1182 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 2: was also a series MVP the Los Angeles Dodgers, Corey Seeger, 1183 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 2: and they just felt like, yeah, we really don't want 1184 00:57:55,640 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 2: to spend money on Corey Seeger. The Rangers did and 1185 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 2: got rewarded mightily for that decision. 1186 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 3: I find it interesting. 1187 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 2: And this is no shot on sho Heyo TONI because 1188 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 2: obviously he is unlike any player that we've ever. 1189 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: Seen in Major League Baseball over the last three years. 1190 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 1: No one has. 1191 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 2: Ever done ever, not even Babe Ruth, of what Shoheyo 1192 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 2: has done over the last three years. But I also 1193 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 2: look at six years of the Angels and I six 1194 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 2: seek six losing seasons. I mean, he's never even been 1195 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 2: on a team that's at a winning record. Must it's 1196 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 2: a team that actually got into the postseason. So when 1197 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 2: we talk about because now this is what the college 1198 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 2: ranks are talking about, like, well, how much money we're 1199 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 2: gonna spend, how much money name, image and likeness. Do 1200 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 2: we have to fork out As we have the transfer 1201 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 2: portal and all this money being thrown around, you still 1202 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 2: have to get the right chemistry together, right, I mean, 1203 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 2: it's still got to be the right pieces. Just paying 1204 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 2: somebody doesn't mean that that's instantly going to translate into 1205 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 2: winning a championship. I feel for the Dodgers because they 1206 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 2: really need pitching, and Otani's not going to pitch a 1207 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 2: single pitch in twenty twenty four, and we don't know 1208 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 2: if he's ever gonna be a guy that comes back 1209 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 2: from two elbow surgeries for a guy that throws one 1210 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour. 1211 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: Why Why did you feel for the Dodgers? 1212 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 4: Like nobody should feel bad for a team that can spin. 1213 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: Well, I shoven hundred billion dollars on a player. 1214 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 2: But here's why I feel because the Dodger fans don't 1215 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 2: give a crap about that. Okay, I've been surrounded by 1216 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 2: Dodger fans my entire life, and they dismissed twenty twenty. 1217 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 2: They won a World Series when it really didn't count. 1218 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 2: All the games were played in Texas, there was no parade, 1219 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 2: it was a shortened season. They haven't won a legitimate 1220 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 2: World Series since Kirk Gibson his home run in nineteen 1221 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 2: eighty eight. So they're desperate and they want to believe 1222 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 2: that Otani's going to be the missing piece. But again, 1223 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 2: we saw it in Texas. I mean, I don't know, 1224 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 2: did I mean, the Rangers spent a lot of money 1225 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 2: and it all worked out for them. Of course, they 1226 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 2: had one of the great managers of all time in 1227 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 2: Bruce Bochi. But this whole idea about buying championships and 1228 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 2: now we're faced with this on the collegiate level just 1229 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. 1230 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:12,959 Speaker 4: Well, the Rangers brought in Simeon and Seeger for a huge. 1231 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Amount of money. 1232 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 4: They went out and got a pitcher, and obviously it 1233 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 4: didn't work out. They spent a massive amount of money 1234 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 4: and he gets hurt and that course that was his 1235 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 4: reputation before he showed up from the Mets. But the 1236 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 4: Rangers just kind of had everything fall, you know, Adolis 1237 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 4: Garcia emerges is not only a postseason hero, just the 1238 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 4: emotional leader of the team. And then out of the blue, 1239 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 4: Evan Carter shows up late in the season and is 1240 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 4: some kind of unreal rookie. 1241 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: So, I mean, there were a lot of things that 1242 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 1: had to come together. 1243 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 4: And as you said, Boshee is incredible in a time 1244 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 4: when we're trying to go with all analytics, and not 1245 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 4: that he doesn't appreciate analytics, but man, some of these 1246 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 4: old school managers can still get it done. 1247 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 1: And he's unbelievable. 1248 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 4: And he just had the perfect Everything he did seemed 1249 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 4: to and then they had Chris Young come in and 1250 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 4: do a really nice job, you know, as their GM. 1251 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 4: Now O'tani joins an organization that wins a lot. Let's 1252 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 4: not act like this is the Angels. 1253 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 5: This is a This is. 1254 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 4: A group that's been what ten times, I mean ten 1255 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 4: straight years to the postseason. They've got plenty of postseason trips, 1256 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 4: plenty of success. But you're right, only the one breakthrough 1257 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 4: I would be that would be interesting to me. I 1258 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 4: did not realize that Dodgers fans I would think they 1259 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 4: would take any title and celebrate it. 1260 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: I would that'd be interesting. 1261 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 4: I did not realize that they view that as not 1262 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 4: the full A full title. 1263 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 2: I mean, the last four full seasons they've won at 1264 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 2: least one hundred games. The embarrassment of losing to division 1265 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 2: rivals the Padres and the d Backs in the first 1266 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 2: round the last couple of years. Yeah, I mean they 1267 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 2: are absolutely starving for a legit World Series championship, hoping 1268 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 2: that guy, the who has never even been on a 1269 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 2: winning team. Ever, it's going to be the difference. 1270 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 1: Which is not his fault. 1271 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,959 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, and by the way, he's done 1272 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 4: everything possible, including being a great pitcher and then being 1273 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 4: you know, the home run king. I mean, he's unbelievable. 1274 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 4: But you know, you got Aaron Judge with the Yankees. 1275 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 4: It doesn't necessarily just because you hit a million home runs. 1276 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 4: You still have to have the other players and the 1277 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 4: other pieces around it. But boy Otani is I mean 1278 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 4: it's a massive piece of the puzzle. 1279 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the biggest they've done. It had 1280 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: a lot of huge moves. 1281 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I remember when they brought in you Darvish 1282 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 4: and he had his moments, you know, with the Cubs. 1283 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 4: He certainly started out with the Rangers all of that. 1284 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 4: But Otani is a different level. And I mean, this 1285 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 4: is and what he's willing to do is pretty cool. 1286 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 4: I mean, this is a new deal. You can't do 1287 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 4: it in the NFL, right, can't do it these a 1288 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 4: lot of these other sports this, this whole deferring. Yeah, 1289 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 4: six hundred and eighty million is wild. I mean, I 1290 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 4: honestly think he's one of the most selfless superstars of 1291 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 4: our time. 1292 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 1: Now, talk about overplay it. Now. 1293 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 2: The guy's been making He's been making over forty million 1294 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 2: dollars a year already in endorsementers. 1295 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 3: Who cares. 1296 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 1: So he's taken two million a year. 1297 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 2: He doesn't two million. He's making forty million endorsements. That's 1298 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 2: gonna probably be sixty million endorsements. Man, here, here was 1299 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 2: my finance guy. He said, all right, so all this 1300 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 2: money he's deferring, right, the six hundred and eighty million dollars, 1301 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 2: if he just sits on that, if he lives off 1302 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 2: the fifty sixty million dollars a year, he's gonna make 1303 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 2: anyway with endorsements and everything else. If he lets that 1304 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 2: money sit every nine years, it doubles. Every nine years, 1305 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 2: it doubles. So I mean, we're talking billions and billions 1306 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 2: and billions. 1307 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 4: Still selfless though, because he's allowing the Dodgers to keep 1308 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 4: doing stuff. 1309 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,919 Speaker 1: He wants to win. I get that he wants to win. 1310 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 1: That's all you can want. I mean, I mean, I 1311 01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,439 Speaker 1: would think the fan base has to be over I mean, oh. 1312 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're not excited, but the problem is 1313 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 2: if they don't win, fair or not, he's got a 1314 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,920 Speaker 2: seven hundred million dollar target on his back. That's the 1315 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 2: problem when you sign, when you have record contracts, knowing 1316 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 2: that it's a team sport. 1317 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1318 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,479 Speaker 2: The one thing that always gets to me when everyone said, 1319 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 2: well I won a super Bowl, No you didn't. You 1320 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 2: were on a team that won a super Bowl. When 1321 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 2: championships in team sports are not individual honors. MVP batting titles, 1322 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 2: those are individual honors. But when you say, well, Kobe 1323 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 2: Bryan won fight. I did this with Kobe. I'm back 1324 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 2: in the day and we covered you know, we're the 1325 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 2: Lakers station, and Kobe was great and everything else. But 1326 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 2: I used to get on and say, Kobe, you didn't 1327 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 2: win five championships. The Lakers won five championships. You were 1328 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 2: a key player on those five teams. Of course, he 1329 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 2: had Shack at bal, you had other guys around you. 1330 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 2: But winning championships is not an individual thing ever in 1331 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 2: a team sport. Now, if you play golf or you 1332 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 2: play tennis, you win an individual title, that's an individual title. 1333 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 2: But anyway, We'll see how it all plays out. But 1334 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 2: I just I feel, yes, I do feel for Dodgers 1335 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 2: fans because I know a lot of them, and I'm 1336 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 2: just saying, you know, let's see if this guy could 1337 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 2: actually pitch again, because his greatest impact in the postseason 1338 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 2: well would be as a pitcher. 1339 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,919 Speaker 3: And it's not gonna happen in twenty twenty four. 1340 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 4: To your point, nobody ever gets to the end of 1341 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 4: these things, these contracts, and go, boy, this was a 1342 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 4: great contract, right, I mean, like. 1343 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 1: Pool Hooles did the huge deal. 1344 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 4: And you knew right when he signed it that maybe 1345 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 4: the first two three four years would be okay. 1346 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 1: And quite honestly, it wasn't. It wasn't. 1347 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 4: It wasn't and he wasn't really ever. I mean, it 1348 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 4: was like his career. 1349 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 1: Wasn't it an amazing then? 1350 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 3: Wasn't amazing? 1351 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 8: Though? 1352 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 2: Those last two months that he played with the Cardinals, 1353 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 2: he suddenly reverted. 1354 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 1: Back to the guy he was. How does that in 1355 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: the water in Saint Louis? 1356 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 2: All right, we got much more on the other side, 1357 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 2: but first let's find out what is a trending right now? 1358 01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 2: Kevin Wirrett is back on a very busy sports day came. 1359 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a great Saturday for sports, especially for football. 1360 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 8: The final seconds have just ticked down in Indianapolis and 1361 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,400 Speaker 8: the Colts beat the Steelers thirty to thirteen. And keep 1362 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 8: in mind the Steelers are up thirteen to nothing early 1363 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 8: in that second quarter and was all Indianapolis ever since. 1364 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 8: Gargner Minshew with three touchdown passes to help Indianapolis jump 1365 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 8: into a playoff spot, and they actually are behind Cincinnati, 1366 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 8: so they're in the number seven spot after beating Pittsburgh. 1367 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 8: Cincinnati does have the tiebreaker over them because of best 1368 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 8: win percentage in a common games, so Cincinnati in the 1369 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,440 Speaker 8: number six spot. Indianapolis in the number seven spot. Pittsburgh 1370 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,440 Speaker 8: now falls to seven and seven. They fall all away 1371 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 8: to number twelve, although there are three teams that are 1372 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 8: seven and six that will play later this week, so 1373 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 8: still a lot to be determined on the AFC side 1374 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 8: of the playoff standings. We were talking about the Bengals. 1375 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 8: They played earlier today against the Vikings, and this game 1376 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 8: started off slow, kind of those regrettable matchups of backup 1377 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 8: quarterbacks in the like a great game early on, but 1378 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 8: that second half it really heated up and the Bengals 1379 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 8: would tie the game, t Higgins making a catch with 1380 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,200 Speaker 8: thirty nine seconds to go. It was short of the 1381 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 8: goal line, but he just had the raw strength to 1382 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 8: break a tackle and stretch his arm across to get 1383 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 8: the score. Force overtime and the Bengals after they were 1384 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 8: stopped and had to punt in that overtime period, the 1385 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 8: Vikings would get the ball fourth and short would come 1386 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 8: up just short as they tried to do that push 1387 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 8: push play so the Bengals would stop them would march 1388 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,919 Speaker 8: in a field goal range after that kick the game 1389 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 8: winner to win a twenty seven to twenty four and 1390 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 8: without Joe Borrow, the Bengals now eight and six and 1391 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 8: have the number six spot in the AFC playoff standings. 1392 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 1: The final game of the day coming up. 1393 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 8: Later tonight eight fifteen Eastern time, Broncos and Lions set 1394 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 8: to get going at Ford Field. In the college ranks, 1395 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 8: we had a few bowl games go final already today 1396 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 8: the Celebration Bowl, the HBCU National Championship. Howard took a 1397 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 8: sixteen to ten lead into the half time break, but 1398 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 8: Florida in them with a big fourth quarter to win 1399 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,360 Speaker 8: at thirty to twenty six. Took overtime at the New 1400 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 8: Orleans Bowl. Jacksonville State gets their first ever bowl win, 1401 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 8: thirty four to thirty one. Keep in mind they were 1402 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 8: not eligible initially to compete in the postseason because they're 1403 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 8: still transitioning from the FCS to the FBS, but because 1404 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 8: there weren't enough six and six teams, they were given 1405 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,640 Speaker 8: a waiver to compete in a bowl game and they 1406 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 8: win it against Louisiana again thirty four to thirty one. 1407 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 8: App State against Miami and this was a low scoring 1408 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 8: game in the Cure Bowl. And the reason four that 1409 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 8: was it was an absolute monsoon coming down there at 1410 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 8: the stadium where Central Florida plays and app State wins 1411 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 8: it again. 1412 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,719 Speaker 1: I hope you had the under in this one thirteen 1413 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 1: to nine. 1414 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,680 Speaker 8: Ohio A blah went against Georgia Southern forty one to 1415 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 8: twenty one, and Fresno State at halftime leeds New Mexico 1416 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,600 Speaker 8: State seventeen to three in the New Mexico Bowl. And 1417 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 8: a couple of interesting scores in college hoops today, one 1418 01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 8: especially featuring number six Baylor. They were undefeated coming in 1419 01:08:55,800 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 8: today against a struggling Michigan State team get blown out 1420 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 8: eighty eight sixty four the final there number two Kansas 1421 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 8: seventy five to seventy one winners against Indiana Number thirteen 1422 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 8: Clemson upset by Memphis seventy nine to seventy seven four. 1423 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,559 Speaker 8: Frank Houston stays unbeaten with a seventy sixty six win 1424 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 8: against Texas. A and m back to you guys. 1425 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for not mentioning UCLA losing Ohio State. Okay, our 1426 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,599 Speaker 2: soun baol rough here for my Bruins basketball. We had 1427 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 2: a big turnovers, you know, three straight years on the 1428 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen. By the way, Haimi Hawkins junior playing well 1429 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,760 Speaker 2: for the Miami Heat. Kevin great stuff. As always, once again, 1430 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 2: we're coming to live from the tire rack dot Com studios. 1431 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 2: I'm actious here at match to see my UCLA Bruins 1432 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 2: are about to kick off the Starko Brands La Bowl 1433 01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 2: hosted by Gronk. 1434 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,720 Speaker 3: That's the actual name of the bowl game. 1435 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 2: Starko Brown Starko Brands La Bowl hosted by Gronk. What's 1436 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 2: going on there, Brandon with this game Ucla. Everyone's sitting 1437 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:54,520 Speaker 2: out this game for UCLA. 1438 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 5: I know. 1439 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,320 Speaker 1: Uh. Fox Sports Radios owned Nick. 1440 01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 5: Cope is calling it. 1441 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,040 Speaker 2: Nick Cope is calling the game very good. Well he's again, 1442 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 2: does he have to say that every time? This is 1443 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 2: the Starko Brands La Bowl hosted by Gronk, because that's 1444 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 2: the full title. 1445 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:08,599 Speaker 1: Of the Bull game. 1446 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:09,640 Speaker 5: I do not know. 1447 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,200 Speaker 1: He said that. Gronk is singing the national anthem though, 1448 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes. Okay, I'm not quite 1449 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,879 Speaker 1: anxious to see that. Yeah, I don't know about you. 1450 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 2: You know, Rose Bowl, Cotton Bowl, Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl, 1451 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 2: those are easier times, you know, as far as calling 1452 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 2: the bull games and stuff like that. But we're just 1453 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,840 Speaker 2: in a completely different world these days when it comes 1454 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 2: to that. I want to get back to a guy, 1455 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,719 Speaker 2: you know, well, Jerry Jones and the decision they made 1456 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 2: to finally put Jimmy Johnson in the Ring of Honor. 1457 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,439 Speaker 1: My theory was. 1458 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 2: The football guys had told Jerry he might work from 1459 01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,040 Speaker 2: a sleep, you know it had a dream that if 1460 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 2: he finally put Jimmy Johnson into the Ring of Honor, 1461 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 2: that the Cowboys would win another Super Bowl. Have they 1462 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 2: lost the game since that happened, by the way, No, No, 1463 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,000 Speaker 2: that's amazing how that turned around. What was the real 1464 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:09,479 Speaker 2: story behind the delay? Because Jimmy. Jimmy came out and said, no, no, no, 1465 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 2: Jerry said it was always going to happen. It was 1466 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 2: just a matter when, well, what is what was the 1467 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 2: real story behind that? Because these guys obviously have been 1468 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 2: friends dating back to their days at the University of 1469 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 2: Arkansas when they were part of that sixty four national 1470 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 2: championship team. But what was the real story in keeping 1471 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,640 Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson, who, by the way, if it wasn't for him, 1472 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 2: Jerry would have zero Super Bowls to his credit as 1473 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,480 Speaker 2: an owner with the Billy. 1474 01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 4: It's exactly what you just said. I mean, Jerry knows 1475 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:41,920 Speaker 4: that's the perception. And I don't know. I don't know 1476 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 4: why he finally decided to go ahead and get it done. 1477 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:50,959 Speaker 4: But yeah, it was just the pettiness over two guys 1478 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 4: that had a lot of success together, but we're at 1479 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 4: each other's throat. And I mean, after winning a Super Bowl, 1480 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 4: you know, to fire a coach and bring in Barry Switzer. 1481 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 4: I mean, think about that happening modern day. Think about that. 1482 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,479 Speaker 4: I guess that was modern day actually, but think about 1483 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,600 Speaker 4: that happening now. It wouldn't happen. It was such a 1484 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,160 Speaker 4: crazy thing when it happened, and I mean there's just 1485 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,360 Speaker 4: over the years, there's just been some bad blood between 1486 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 4: both of them and they finally put it aside. And 1487 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 4: it was weird because it was kind of rushed, and 1488 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,800 Speaker 4: it was weird how they did it because they basically 1489 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,839 Speaker 4: announced it and did it like five minutes before kickoff 1490 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,760 Speaker 4: of a game against the Panthers and then he had 1491 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,639 Speaker 4: a news conference like as the game was going on. 1492 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:41,679 Speaker 4: It seemed a little bit disrespectful toward the Panthers, although 1493 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,080 Speaker 4: they've probably earned the disrespect. I think they're like one 1494 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 4: in twelve right now. Yeah, But it just this thing 1495 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 4: that just it's like one of those stories you would have, 1496 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,000 Speaker 4: like from the Raiders days, Okay, and if I said, 1497 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,600 Speaker 4: tell me what happened with Al Davis and Art and 1498 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,600 Speaker 4: that game? You know, just all and why did he 1499 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,880 Speaker 4: get mad at this guy? I mean you would say, well, Matt, 1500 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna need all afternoon to tell you. 1501 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 1: Well, this is a similar deal. This is like it 1502 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 1: just goes. 1503 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,479 Speaker 4: Way back, and they've been through a lot together and 1504 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 4: there were moments where the relationship was better and then 1505 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 4: it kind of got a little ugly again and they 1506 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,200 Speaker 4: just got to a good spot and I don't know, 1507 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 4: there might be something to what you said, like the curse. 1508 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 4: It sounds funny and like a joke, but I don't 1509 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 4: Jerry may kind of be thinking this could create some 1510 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,599 Speaker 4: goodwill and some good things. 1511 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,759 Speaker 1: And he also loves he's a showman. 1512 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:41,200 Speaker 4: And the thought of you know, putting Jimmy in, you know, 1513 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 4: before a big game, I guess it's gonna happen before 1514 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,200 Speaker 4: this Lions game. I mean, he just kind of adds 1515 01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,679 Speaker 4: to the But this was a this was a thrown 1516 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,480 Speaker 4: together type deal, so it is kind of fascinating. 1517 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you there's years and years. 1518 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,479 Speaker 4: Of those guys thinking the other guy I was getting 1519 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,200 Speaker 4: too much credit, Jerry being very resentful of what you 1520 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,760 Speaker 4: just said earlier that everybody thought it was because of 1521 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 4: Jimmy that they did it and it ended poorly, And 1522 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 4: quite honestly, you say there's a curse, and well, they 1523 01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 4: won another super Bowl, but there is a thought that 1524 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,800 Speaker 4: they could have won more, and if Jimmy had a 1525 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 4: stayed and they have not been back to an NFC 1526 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:26,679 Speaker 4: title game since the ninety five season, right as nineteen 1527 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 4: ninety six when that game was played, and it's just 1528 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 4: crazy to think of you think you would almost stumble 1529 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,880 Speaker 4: into one. Think about exactly the point, right, Think about like, how, yeah, 1530 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,639 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, we beat him up for not being better 1531 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,479 Speaker 4: in those games, but how many has he been to? 1532 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 4: Like he's at least gotten to quite a few NFC 1533 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 4: title games. Cowboys none like great players like Romo and 1534 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 4: Witten and whoever else has been through now, Dak, they 1535 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 4: haven't done it. 1536 01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean they haven't done it. You know, since Eateman 1537 01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 1: was around and eight, when's what fifty eight to fifty 1538 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: nine years old? 1539 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,599 Speaker 2: Now, don't age me. He was a kid, and back 1540 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,320 Speaker 2: in the day, I remember him as a kid. 1541 01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: Look, I was. 1542 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 2: My last year working for the LA Raiders was eighty eight, 1543 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,679 Speaker 2: the year we hired Mike Shanahan, this unknown quarterback coach 1544 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,760 Speaker 2: for the Denver Broncos. And if you really want to 1545 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,760 Speaker 2: know what happened between Al Davis and Mike Shanahan, by 1546 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,719 Speaker 2: the way, to show you how how how I feel, 1547 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,040 Speaker 2: Mike Shanahan gets hired. We had a press conference and 1548 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:31,000 Speaker 2: I met his eight year old son, Kyle. So I'm 1549 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,599 Speaker 2: the media relations director for the Raiders and this new 1550 01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 2: coach comes in and he introduces me to his eight 1551 01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 2: year old son, Kyle, So how do I. 1552 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 3: Feel about that? 1553 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:43,840 Speaker 1: All Right, on the other side, we'll give you some 1554 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 1: of whatever happened to that guy. 1555 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,360 Speaker 3: Whatever happened you know, he showed promises an eight year old. 1556 01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,519 Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, we're going 1557 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 2: to give you some of our best plays for some 1558 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:53,839 Speaker 2: of the games around the NFL. 1559 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,960 Speaker 1: This is Fox Football Saturday. 1560 01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 3: Benshe drops a throw on first down over the middle. 1561 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,360 Speaker 1: Of it, caught and it's a touchdown. 1562 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 2: O Allie Cox touchdown as he walks across the goal line. 1563 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:11,799 Speaker 1: Touchdown in d why one play, no problem? 1564 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 3: Eighteen yards to the tight end and the Colts lead 1565 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:16,519 Speaker 3: twenty to thirteen. 1566 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,320 Speaker 1: That's the Colts Radio Network. 1567 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 2: Colts take care of business at home against the Steelers 1568 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 2: thirty to thirteen. Colts, at least in the moment, are 1569 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,800 Speaker 2: a playoff team in the AFC. That's our Progressive play 1570 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,320 Speaker 2: of the day, brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive 1571 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,559 Speaker 2: makes buddling easy and affordable. Get a multi policy discount 1572 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,920 Speaker 2: by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, a TV, more all 1573 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:41,200 Speaker 2: your protection one place bundle and say Approgressive dot com. 1574 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 2: Steve Hartin, Matt Mosley with you. This is Fox Football 1575 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,240 Speaker 2: Saturday Live from the ti IRAQ dot Com studios. Want 1576 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,080 Speaker 2: to thank the crew today. Kevin Wyer bringing his updates 1577 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,040 Speaker 2: on a very very busy sports day. Lorena is always 1578 01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 2: just brilliant on the board, pushing all the right buttons, 1579 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 2: making this show actually operate. And then there's Brandon that 1580 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,920 Speaker 2: he's getting a little anxious right now, Matt about his 1581 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 2: San Diego Padres and what their next move is going 1582 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 2: to be. 1583 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,360 Speaker 1: A lot of big names are coming off the board. 1584 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,080 Speaker 1: What are the potter's saying? 1585 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 2: They're letting the dust settle a little bit before they 1586 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 2: make any big moves. Is that what Aj Breller said 1587 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:19,400 Speaker 2: something along those lines. 1588 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:21,559 Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of tuned amount a while ago. 1589 01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,519 Speaker 8: I'm still coming down from the high of watching the 1590 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 8: Chargers just get destroyed. 1591 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,040 Speaker 2: You have to task there's so many there were so 1592 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,040 Speaker 2: many more people that hate the charge. You're asking earlier, 1593 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 2: Matt about the San Diego support the Chargers. 1594 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,920 Speaker 3: The absolute answer is nobody does zero. 1595 01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:40,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I remember when you know, being on the 1596 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,680 Speaker 2: air in San Diego when the Chargers left and I 1597 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 2: did something and I thought it was it was going 1598 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 2: to take a while I said, I want to identify 1599 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 2: a fan of every single team in the NFL that 1600 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 2: lives in San Diego, and you figure out, oh, come in, 1601 01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 2: they're Panthers fans. And the way we did this without 1602 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,760 Speaker 2: telling the caller, they'd say, all right, I'm a Panthers fan, 1603 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,439 Speaker 2: and we would ask them a question that only a 1604 01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:06,839 Speaker 2: Panthers fan could answer. 1605 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 1: Right. 1606 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,880 Speaker 2: We were able to identify legitimate fans of every single 1607 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,920 Speaker 2: team in two days. 1608 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,600 Speaker 3: Two days in San Diego. 1609 01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,320 Speaker 2: It's not like we would take a lot of phone 1610 01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,040 Speaker 2: calls otherwise, but it just goes to show it's a 1611 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 2: melting pot and everything else. Hey, I want to ask 1612 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 2: you about this game coming up between the Broncos and 1613 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,679 Speaker 2: the Lions. From the Broncos standpoint, this is a team 1614 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,320 Speaker 2: that was zero to three with a seventy point give 1615 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,800 Speaker 2: up against the Dolphins, the team that literally looked like 1616 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,640 Speaker 2: they quit on the field. They went to one and 1617 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 2: five and they're six and one ever since. And Sean 1618 01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:45,479 Speaker 2: Payton is someone I got to know a little bit 1619 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,519 Speaker 2: when he was in New Orleans. I like him on 1620 01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,960 Speaker 2: a personal level. I didn't know if he could turn 1621 01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,760 Speaker 2: things around with the Broncos, but they're in season turnaround. 1622 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you could talk about Demico Ryans. Obviously, what 1623 01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 2: the Texans have done this year is probably gonna be 1624 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,920 Speaker 2: your runaway coach of the Year, deservedly so. But as 1625 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,200 Speaker 2: far as in season is concerned, especially what they've done 1626 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 2: on the defensive side of football, in my opinion, is 1627 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:15,840 Speaker 2: nothing short of remarkable, unbelievable coaching job by him, Vaughn, 1628 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, Evince Joseph on the defensive side, and they're 1629 01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 2: in the playoff chase. 1630 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's phenomenal what he's done. And I 1631 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,559 Speaker 4: think this quarterback a lot of people had lost faith in. 1632 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,599 Speaker 4: You saw him react during that one and five start, 1633 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,360 Speaker 4: and late in at one of those games he got 1634 01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,599 Speaker 4: you know, you don't normally see a quarterback or a 1635 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 4: head coach just unload on a veteran somewhat thought was 1636 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 4: headed toward a Hall of Fame career quarterback like that, 1637 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,080 Speaker 4: but Sean did, and well, that thing could have gone 1638 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,559 Speaker 4: either way, and somehow he kind of got it together. 1639 01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,760 Speaker 4: But I mean, I think this is great for his 1640 01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:02,120 Speaker 4: life legacy because yes, you know a lot of these 1641 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,880 Speaker 4: guys just get credit because they had won. He had 1642 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,559 Speaker 4: Drew Brees and he had that great run with him, 1643 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,680 Speaker 4: but he just won the one super Bowl. I mean 1644 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 4: you can say the same about Mike McCarthy with the 1645 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,760 Speaker 4: one super Bowl with the Packers. 1646 01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 1: But when you can turn. 1647 01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:20,240 Speaker 4: A team around that was this far in the tank, boy, 1648 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,640 Speaker 4: I think it really really helps your legacy. And this 1649 01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,280 Speaker 4: is helping Sean Payton well. 1650 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 2: Like the other games today, big game for both of 1651 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 2: these teams. The Lions have been a little shaky as 1652 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 2: of recent weeks, but still nine to four. All right, 1653 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,080 Speaker 2: a few seconds left. I want you on the record, Matt, 1654 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,360 Speaker 2: will you predict that the Cowboys make it at least 1655 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,559 Speaker 2: to the conference championship game this season? 1656 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,320 Speaker 1: No, No, I can't. 1657 01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:43,439 Speaker 5: I can't go that far. 1658 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,760 Speaker 1: I try to get him to say he doesn't buy 1659 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 1: into it. 1660 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 3: Give it right here. This is Fox Sports Radio.