1 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Gabby Petito, now called America's Daughter. Where is she? How 2 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: can we find her? Why are we not getting answers 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: from her boyfriend, Brian Laundry, who's safe and sound hidden 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: away to his parents home in Florida. Why did he 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: travel all the way back from we think Wyoming without her? 6 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: Why did he arrive in Florida around September one? But 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: nobody knows Gabby's not with him? Where is she? Can 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: she be found? Joining me now her mom Nicole Schmidt 9 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: and stepfather Jim Schmidt. Jim is there in Wyoming. He 10 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: has flown out to look for her himself. I'm Nancy Grace. 11 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us 12 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation and Serious XM one eleven. I 13 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: want you to first hear a family statement let's start 14 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: friends at Fox four and a new statement from Potito's 15 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: family reading every day the search for Gabby continues, the 16 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Smitt and Potito family become more desperate. They are frantically 17 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: searching for answers and information in their daughter's disappearance, while 18 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: Brian sits in the comfort of his home. This statement continues, Brian, 19 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: how could you do this to Gabby? You selfishly remain 20 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: silent while Gabby is all alone in the wilderness. Brian, 21 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: your silence is reprehensible. We beg you to do the 22 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: right thing and help bring Gabby home. The statement ending 23 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: with you turnish your love for her with your silence. 24 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: You are hearing Gabby's family begging the boyfriend to speak 25 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: out first, straight out to Jim Schmidt there searching for 26 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Gabby on the ground, joining us from Jackson hellaming Jim. 27 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: It's almost like looking for Anneel in a haystack because laundry. 28 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: The boyfriend is not telling anybody that we know of 29 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: where he left Gabby. Yes, that's correct. You know we're 30 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: out here. You know to say that, you know we're 31 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: actively out in the wood searching. Our reason for coming 32 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: out here was to help assist law enforcement with any questions, 33 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: put a face with the family and represent us out here. 34 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: But just the vast area out here, it's tremendous and 35 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: it's it's surreal. I'm trying to figure out We've heard 36 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: so many different things. Straight to Gabby's mother, Nicole Schmidt 37 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: joining us, Miss Schmidt, Yeah, I practically had to make 38 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: a flow chart to figure out where was Gabby last 39 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: known to be I know she checked out of a 40 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: Salt Lake City hotel. She was seen there, she was 41 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: seen at a gas station. Why may I ask, do 42 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: you believe her last known location is Wyoming Because the 43 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: last time I spoke to her, she said she was 44 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: going to the Grand Teaton, and she sent me a 45 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: text that she was there. I just have a good 46 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: feeling that that's true and that's where she was. Let 47 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: me ask you this, miss Schmidt. You got a text 48 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: ostensibly from Gabby, but now you wonder that it's not 49 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: Gabby who wrote that text. I agree with you. I 50 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: believe the text says something like no cell in Yosemite. Yeah, 51 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: after finding out that the van was in Florida on 52 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: the first of September. You do the math if Gabby 53 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: doesn't have her phone with her, I don't know. I 54 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: think everybody can make their own conclusion from that. Let 55 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: me understand the movement, Jim Schmidt, because you have strategically chosen, 56 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: for reasons known to you, to search for her in Wyoming, 57 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: although her last text said no cell phone coverage in Yosemite. Yes, 58 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: I thought that she was in Yellowstone and that was 59 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: that was their plan. The plan was to come up 60 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: through the Grand Tetons and to go to Yellowstone. At 61 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: no time was there mention of her going to Yosemite, 62 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: which is in California and completely or the track that 63 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: you know we thought that she was going on completely. Um, 64 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: mister Schmidt, I've taken my twins camping and rving through Yosemite, 65 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Yellowstone and the Tetons there. I guess eight hundred miles 66 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: apart that those were different trips, right, yeah, yeah, absolutely 67 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: so when Nicole, mister Schmidt gets a text from Gabby 68 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: saying no cell service in Yosemite, that's not even where 69 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: she was supposed to be. And I believe that was 70 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: on what the twenty ninth. Did you get that text, Mischmidt? 71 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: It was the thirtieth, thirtieth. And if you get that 72 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: on the thirtieth, no sales service in Yosemite, and then 73 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: the vehicle thirty days has September, two days later, less 74 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: than two days later, the van is already in Florida. 75 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense, correct, doesn't make any sense. Let 76 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: me ask you regarding her lexicon, her jargon, her vernacular, 77 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: mischimidt would she have written that text? Would that are 78 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: those her words? No cell phone? No cell service, Yosemite. 79 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: Would would she have written that text? Now looking at 80 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: it in retrospect, it's not her. I don't believe it's her. 81 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: How would she normally write a text? I've been very curious. 82 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: It would probably be more informal, like hey, mom, you know, 83 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: don't try to conduct me. You know, going to be 84 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: in a place with no service for a day or two. 85 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: You know, I'll call you one week when week get out. 86 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: You know. It would have been more like personable. I 87 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: bet she would have said something like, but I'm okay, 88 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: right because she knows don't know that I was a 89 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: worried mother and she I would check on her constantly, 90 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: and she was That's why she kept in touch with me. 91 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: Would she have added emoji like a hard or smiley 92 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: face or a flower or something like that. She wasn't 93 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: a huge emoji user but once in a while. But 94 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: it was more the wording that I look at as 95 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: not being her. Let me ask you this, mister Schmidt. 96 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 1: Everyone joining me is Jim Schmidt and Nicole Schmidt. These 97 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: aren't Gabby's parents, Jim. Do we know yet whether that 98 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: last text was triangulated? Do we know what part from 99 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: what part of the country it came. But I'm not 100 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: sure I know all the law enforcement agencies. It's a 101 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: multiple agencies that are involved in this investigation, and I 102 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: know they are working every avenue possible to get as 103 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: much information as I can. Unfortunately, you know, they have 104 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: to keep a lot of this information tight because they 105 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: don't want anything to hamper their efforts or or interfere. 106 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: So you know, we don't know that information. Guys. This 107 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: in the back drop of the boyfriend being named a 108 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: POI person of interest. Now I noticed when he was 109 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: named a person of interest authorities law officer said, until 110 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: he speaks to us and tells us and what happened 111 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: and explains himself, he's a person of interest. Will that 112 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: cloud of suspicion be lifted once he finally does speak 113 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: with police? Don't know yet. Take a listen to Northport 114 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: police press conference. You know he's going to remain a 115 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: person of interest until until he starts speaking. He's that 116 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle that that we need. You know, 117 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: I can't I can't fathom why you refer to her 118 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: as the love of your life on social media. But 119 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: you won't speak out, you won't help, you won't do anything. 120 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: It's absolutely absurd and it makes no sense to us, 121 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: and he needs to speak up, and we're not gonna 122 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: lay off. We're gonna keep pressure on him until he 123 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: said something. Let's take a listen to that press conference. 124 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: It just made more sense. Uh, you know the family 125 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: that first of all, the agency in Suffolk County has 126 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: been fantastic, you know, no issues there. This was just 127 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: a situation where that happened to be where the family 128 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: reported Gabby missing, and the fact that the van is 129 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: here and both of these people that were are surrounded 130 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: in this case are Northport residents, So it just made 131 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: more sense. We definitely processed that vehicle yesterday with the FBI. 132 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Certainly there was some material in there that we'll be 133 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: going through. I don't know that we're at a situation 134 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: of releasing all of those details crime stories with Nancy Grace. 135 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: We definitely process that vehicle yesterday with the FBI. Certainly 136 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: there was some material in there that we'll be going through. 137 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that we're at a situation of releasing 138 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: all of those details. They kick her to that, Joe 139 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, is any material that's found within the camper 140 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: which Gabby herself worked out in the driveway. All of 141 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: their neighbors saw her working and working and working converting 142 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: a twenty twelve four transit into a travel camper. Her 143 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: fingerprints and DNA and belongings would be in the camper anyway, 144 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: so that may not indicate anything. Joe Scott. Yeah, yeah, 145 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: you're right, and that's just day to day living. We're 146 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: talking about touch DNA, those things that are left behind 147 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: in common parlance. Yes, ma'am, guys, more of the presser listen. 148 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: So here's the situation that happened. We went to the 149 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: door Saturday night. We asked to speak with Brian and 150 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: his family, and we were essentially handed the information for 151 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: their attorney. That is the extent of our conversation with them. 152 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: It's my unders standing we have had some conversations with 153 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: his attorney, but certainly nothing to the level of providing 154 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: us the details that we would like straight out to 155 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: Nicole Schmidt. This is Gabby's mom joining us, Miss Schmidt, 156 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: were you surprised that when the cause go to the 157 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: door to speak to your daughter's boyfriend, they hand him 158 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: a piece of paper with the lawyer's name written on it. 159 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: It's a third I don't understand it. She lived with them, 160 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: She's part of their family. Why aren't they talking? I 161 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: have heard from various sources, Miss Schmidt that Brian Laundry 162 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: actually flew home during the road trip and then flew 163 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: back to where the camper was. Is that true? Where 164 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: we've been told by the FDI that under investigation, we 165 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: are not to discuss those things. Okay, I understand that, 166 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: and anything that touches on the integrity of the investigation. 167 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: We do not want to tamper with that. So just 168 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: tell me, okay. Those reports will remain just that reports 169 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: for right now, we are trying to figure out where 170 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: they last were, Where Gabby was last seen alive, was 171 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: she spotted on video? Was there in interest to one 172 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: of the national parks where we can see her? All 173 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: the cards are being held right now by her boyfriend, 174 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: Brian Lorender, who refuses to speak. This as we learn 175 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: that police in moab Utah were called to a and 176 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: apparent domestic incident August the twelveth. We've been reviewing with 177 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: a fine tooth comb that body him footage. Take a 178 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: listen to our friends at CBS two New York our 179 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: cup forty seven for the first time details of an 180 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: altercation between the two in moab Utah on August twelfth. 181 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: According to this police report, police responded to a reported 182 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: domestic assault, but concluded it was a mental emotional health break. Quote. 183 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: Brian explained he and Gabrielle have been traveling together for 184 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: the last four or five months. That time spent created 185 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: emotional stream between them and increased the number of arguments 186 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: after arguing Gabrielle had gone into a manic state, telling 187 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: police both suffer from a mental condition and we're not 188 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: taking their meds. According to the report, police determined the 189 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: altercation did not rise to the level of domestic assault 190 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: and the two were told to separate for the night. 191 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: Laundry was given a hotel room. Did he harm Gabby 192 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: because if he did, you know, then he stole our 193 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: car and gold across state lines. I tried to figure 194 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: this out when I saw the footage, Nicole Schmidt, your 195 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: Gabby's mom. Gabby did not look manic. She cried the 196 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: whole time, and from what I could gather, she got 197 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: locked out of the van. Laundry locked her out of 198 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: the van and had her cell phone. In fact, a 199 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: witness claimed she was trying to get through the window 200 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: to get back in the van. She's out in the 201 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere and gets locked out of the van. 202 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: It's the way I understood it. Yeah, it's very upsetting 203 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: to see my daughter in that state and to hear 204 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: what's going on. And I'm not really going to comment 205 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: on the incident any further, but it is very upsetting. 206 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, I want to go to doctor Angelauna. I 207 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: understand miss Schmidt, you know too, for a guy to 208 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: lock the lady out of the van out in the 209 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. I've been exactly where they are, and 210 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: that terrain is very rugged. If you don't have your 211 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: cell phone, you're screwed. And she got a lot out 212 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: of the van. That's some power play. Huh. Yeah. I 213 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: wonder she was crying, and you know, you know what 214 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: else I wonder, Nancy, I wonder what led up to that, 215 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: What led up to him locking her out of the van? 216 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: Why had things gotten so out of control that he 217 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: felt the need to well very small framed girl out 218 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: of the van that she put together for this truck. Guys, 219 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: we are discussing the very latest and the attempt to 220 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: find Gabby Gabrielle Potito to Jim Schmidt there. This is 221 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: her stepfather. He's there in Jackson Hallym and looking for 222 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: his girl. Jim, tell me about the search for her 223 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: that is going down right now, right now, the search, 224 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: everything right now is being handled by law enforcement agencies. Um, 225 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're just here to support them. I'm here 226 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: with with a longtime family friend, and we're just here 227 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: really in a support role to them. We're trying not 228 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: to do anything or go anywhere that will, you know, 229 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: negatively affect their investigation. So we're just we're just here 230 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: to let them know that we're here for them for 231 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: whatever they need. Miss Schmidt, you have been quoted as 232 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: saying you have a gut feeling Gab is alive. Tell 233 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: me about that. Yeah, I would thinks it's a long 234 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: line more of hope. But I do feel that my 235 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: daughter's out there, and I think she might need help, 236 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: but I do feel she's alive. Well, Miss Schmidt. As 237 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: I often say in criminal law, when you don't know 238 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: a horse, look at the track record. Take a listen 239 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: now to our cut forty five our friends at Fox thirteen, 240 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: Salt Lake City. The other officer who interviewed Brian wrote 241 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: Brian said, Gabrielle, thinking he was going to leave her 242 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: in Moab without a ride, went to slap him. As 243 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: Gabrielle started to swing, Brian pushed her away to avoid 244 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: the slap. They also described Gabby's demeanor, saying, at no 245 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: point did Gabby stop crying, breathing heavily, or compose a 246 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: sentence without needing to wipe away tears. They added, Brian 247 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: did not show any signs. Brian did not show any 248 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: signs that he had been a victim in the least 249 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: what I'm getting at, Gabby thought she was going to 250 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: be locked out of the van and left in Moab, 251 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: Utah without a ride. If he had done that once, 252 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: did he do it again? Did he take part in 253 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: an argument and then just leave her? Do you have 254 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: any reason to believe that is what happened, Jim Schmidt, 255 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: You know, the only two people that truly know are 256 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: Gabby and Brian. We don't know where Gabby is and 257 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: Brian not talking, so we don't have answers to any 258 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: of these questions. And this is what we need. We 259 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: need answers to all of these questions. Miss miss Schmidt, 260 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: at any point in their relationship had Brian Laundry ever 261 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: been violent with Gabby before? I know that she had 262 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: broken off their engagement in the past. Not to my knowledge, 263 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: I think it wasn't really much of a broken off 264 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: as an engagement, more than a let's put it on 265 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: hold and just go try bull and stuff and not 266 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: worried about sending a wedding. Not to my knowledge, has 267 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: he ever been violent. I mean they had their normal 268 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: couple quarrels. They're young, you know, but nothing that would 269 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: shoot off a red flag that he would harm her 270 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: in any way. Crime stories with Nancy Grace, I just 271 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: am going back to what we know, and we know 272 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: that cops said she was afraid he was going to 273 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: lock her out of the van again and leave her 274 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. And when I say nowhere, 275 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean it very rugged, rough terrain. Take a listen 276 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: to our cut forty nine. This is justin Sheker w FLA. 277 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: The police report says Laundry told officers their time together 278 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: traveling created an emotional strain between them and increase the 279 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: number of arguments. He added, she went to slap him 280 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: because she feared he was going to leave her in 281 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: Moab without a ride. The officers right. They decide the 282 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: fight didn't rise to the level of domestic assault as 283 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: much as that of a mental health crisis. Police recommended 284 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: they spend the night apart so they can relax their 285 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: emotions and regain control of their anxiety. But Tito's stay 286 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: with the van and police help Laundry get a hotel 287 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: room at Scavin Family Crisis Center. My next question to 288 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: mister Schmidt, who is joining us from Jackson Holle, Wyoming. 289 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: To all of you listening to mister and miss Schmidt now, 290 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: please call FBI two two five five three two four 291 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: if you know anything about Gabby's whereabouts or you think 292 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: you know anything, repeat one eight hundred two two five 293 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: five three two four one eight hundred call f b I, 294 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: or you can go online. There's a go fund yet 295 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: help us find Gabby. Back to miss Schmidt, Schmidt, how 296 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: often did you and Gabby speak frequently? If she was 297 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: going to have that service for a couple of days, 298 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: I knew it, and she would always call me right 299 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: after to say, you know, I'm backing civilization. I'm at 300 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: a Starbuck, you know, trying to upload videos and you know, 301 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: get on my Instagram. She was really into the van 302 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: life and trying to start her channel, and I talked 303 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: to her at least three time de leete, if not more, 304 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: And that is a huge undertaking. In fact, I was 305 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: watching in full the body cam video Miss Schmidt, and 306 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 1: I was listening to Laundry speaking and he says to 307 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: the effect she's been really stressed out. She's trying to 308 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: launch her YouTube channel, her travel blog, and she's been 309 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: working really hard on that, and I'm just thinking about her. 310 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: And in the video, she he's the one seemingly wrong. 311 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: She's crying, she's up to set, and she keeps saying 312 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: things like, I'm sorry I was in a bad mood. Yeah, 313 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking, a sweet little thing. Why is she apologizing 314 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: this sweet girl for being in a bad mood. It's 315 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: really hard for me to imagine her in a quote 316 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: bad mood. She's in the back of this van trying 317 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: to launch a travel channel, and she was doing a 318 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: beautiful job of it. Yeah, it hurts my heart to 319 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: see her in that position. And I wish I could 320 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: just go rescue her and hug her and you know, 321 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: see her from that heartbreak. Well, I just looked at her, Misschmidt, 322 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: and this beautiful young girl, just a waif. She's about 323 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten pounds and she's I think around 324 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: five to five and crying out there in that hot sun, crying, crying, crying, 325 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: and the cops realize that they set her down in 326 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: their car. I think they've got some air condition going 327 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: trying to help her. It just breaks my heart that 328 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: now we don't know where she is. Back to you, 329 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: mister Schmidt, you say law enforcement is looking for her 330 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: right now? How are they doing it in that terrain? 331 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: They're working collectively with every agency at here. You know, 332 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: they're very familiar with this area. They're following up every 333 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: and old lead they have, you know, checking any last 334 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: known location. But a lot of it is very sin's, 335 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: very tight lips. They can't divulge a lot of that information. 336 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: But I know they're doing their best. We know Gabby 337 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: was spotted. Let's get our cut forty one our friends 338 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: at Fox thirteen. Gabby was spotted at a local fairfield 339 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: in Listen. We've reported the last place and Gabby was 340 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: seen alive was at a Salt Lake City hotel on 341 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: August twenty fourth. We can now tell you a family 342 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: spokesperson says it was the Fairfield and in suites on 343 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: Admiral Bird Road, just west of the Salt Lake City 344 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: International Airport. That's right. Fox thirteen News did go to 345 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: the hotel this evening, whereas staff would not speak to 346 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: us on camera, but did say the FBI and police 347 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: officers have visited the hotel recently and Gabby stayed there 348 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: for more than a day. So tell me, mister Schmidt, 349 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: you are in Wyoming. That spotting of her at the 350 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: hotel was in Salt Lake You're convinced she actually made 351 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: it to Wyoming. Why? Yeah, we're convinced because you know, 352 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: some of our last posts on Instagram show that she 353 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: was in Ogden, Utah. You know, that would be you know, 354 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: leaving Salt Lake City and heading towards this way, you know, 355 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: heading off towards the Idaho Wyoming border. You know. Right 356 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: around that time too, she had some text communication with Nicole, 357 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: our wife, um just stating that you know, she was 358 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: up in this area and they were going here and 359 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: then they were continuing on to Yellowstone. So it was 360 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: just something that our doctor tells her that this is okay. 361 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: So we need to get all Salt Lake City and 362 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: be focused on Whiteoming. Now it's my understanding the Ogden 363 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: Utah is confirmed by her shot of Happy Halloween was 364 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: kind of a joke because she was holding a little 365 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: crouchade pumpkin in front of a monarch butterfly backdrop. Is 366 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: that the one in Ogden, mister Schmidt, Yes, yes, I 367 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: believe that's okay, Yes, that was from there. Let me 368 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: go to Garna, Mehia reporter KSLTV in Salt Lake Garna. 369 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: We now know that she made it to Whiteoming. What 370 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: more do we know? I understand she was spotted at 371 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: a gas station. Where was that That information about the 372 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: gas station, I'm not too certain about out. I think 373 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: one of the first sightings actually came from a tourists 374 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: that were coming through town and they remarked they noticed 375 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: that this van was really unique. They were on this 376 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: trip act. I think they're actually from Florida, and they 377 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: were some of the first to come forward and said, 378 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: you know what, that van is really unique. We'd like 379 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: to try something like that, and that really stood out 380 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: to them. So when they started to see all of 381 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: this come up just over the weekend, really they reached 382 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: out to the family and said, hey, we know this, 383 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: we have pictures. We were in that area, and I've 384 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: been in contact with them and they even took their 385 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: phone to a Verizon store to see if they could spot, 386 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, Gabby in the background of one of their pictures. 387 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: They couldn't, but they assure us and I think the 388 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: family didn't can speak to that that you know, they 389 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: saw the van, they saw them here and speaking of 390 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: signings of the vantake to listen to our cut forty 391 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: eight CBS two police releasing new images of the van 392 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: asking for information at a new FBI tipline. Police say 393 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: they were using every technol logical resource to scour cell records, 394 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: app usage, videos, tolls and more. If she's out there, 395 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: we're doing everything in our power to bring her home. 396 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: The Laundry's attorney says he's the one advising the young 397 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: man to remain silent, adding intimate partners are often the 398 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: first person suspected on advice accouncil. The Laundry family is 399 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: remaining in the background. That is not good enough. We 400 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: need the details. In response, Gabby's family said in a statement, Brian, 401 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: your silence is reprehensible. We beg you to do the 402 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: right thing and help us bring Gabby home. Whatever happened 403 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: in Wyoming happened. The only thing you can control is 404 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: what you do now. Meanwhile, Laundry's attorney remains adamant. He says, 405 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: you know that statement, Anything that you say will be 406 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: used against you. He says, that's true, and he's telling 407 00:25:49,280 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: Brian Laundry to remain silent. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 408 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: To Jim Schmidt, this is Gabby's stepdad out there on 409 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: the ground looking for Gabby in Wyoming. I don't know 410 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 1: if you're going to comment on this, but it's just 411 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: what are your feelings knowing that Brian Laundry has the 412 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: key to her last whereabouts as you were out there 413 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: scouring the teachers trying to find It's an act of cowardice, 414 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: that's all it is. Stand up, be a man and 415 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: do what's right and help us find her. That's all 416 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: we're asking. Its remaining in the background is ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous, 417 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: and we need answers. You have the answers, and you 418 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: need to let law enforcement know. You need to let 419 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: us know where Gabby is. If you love her, if 420 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: you care about her, you need to speak up. I mean, 421 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan, you and I have both been part 422 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: of grid searches before. They're very difficult. I mean in 423 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: a cornfield, in a pasture, much less in rugged, rugged 424 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: terrain such as out west. The reality is he's got 425 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: the key to where he last saw her. Yeah, a 426 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: needle in a haystack is the best analogy, Nancy, And 427 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: you're right. You know, when we do grid searches, it's 428 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: a very narrow area. And just think about all of 429 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: the law enforcement agencies that are involved in this. In 430 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: order to do these grid searches, you need individuals that 431 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: are familiar with that terrain. They couldn't PLoP somebody like 432 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: myself or Mike or anybody else down in that area 433 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: we're not familiar with it. This guy has to come 434 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: forward and Mike King joining us host of profiling evil 435 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: former police officer in Ogden, Utah. Mike, I don't get it. 436 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: Why not at least just throw us a breadcrumb right 437 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: just where he last saw her. If they got into 438 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: an argument and he drove off without her, that's one thing. 439 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: Did she fall from a cliff? Is she lost on 440 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: a trail? Why would they not? Are the parents not 441 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: letting him speak at all? On the other hand, He's 442 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: a twenty three almost twenty four year old young man. 443 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: Why are his parents having to protect him? Yeah, I'm 444 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: with you on that. Number One. You have to go 445 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: back to the fact that it sounds like they were 446 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: living in the parents home, They're tripping around the countryside together. 447 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, she disappears and he goes for 448 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: ten days that we absolutely know more likely fourteen days 449 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: without reaching out and saying something happened. Gabby disappeared. It 450 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: is unconscionable that this kind of behavior is going on, 451 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: and I just cannot understand his thinking behind it. I agree, guys, 452 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to Gabby herself. 453 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: This is our cut fifty nine. She's talking to the listen. Yeah, 454 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm really said ocd okay. I just I was just 455 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: cleaning when he was creating up back at him before, 456 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: and I was apologizing to him and saying I'm sorry 457 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: that I'm so mean because sometimes I have listened sometimes 458 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: I did get really frustrated. I'm not like mean him, 459 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: I just like, I guess my vibe was like I 460 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: had me like in a bad mood, and I was 461 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: just saying I'm sorry if I'm in a bad mood. 462 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: I just really stressed. I had so much work I 463 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: was doing like acuters morning, Um well I he was 464 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: forgetting are getting too star But I just hit my job. 465 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: I was in nutritious, That's what that was. But I 466 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: just put my job to travel across the country and 467 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to start a blog like force. So I've 468 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: been building my website. I've been really stressed, and I 469 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: really believe that I could do any of its kind 470 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: of been like a I don't know, he's like down there, 471 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. We'dn't been inviting one morning, and and 472 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: you would I mean a car before or when you 473 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: were a bird? So meys gone down, yes, but I 474 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: hear be calm as I'm he really is me own 475 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: and read. This is a rough one straight out to 476 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: Gabby's mother. This is Nicole Schmidt joining us. I've analyzed 477 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: every single word, and I want to hear your thoughts 478 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: on what Gabby's saying. It's breaking my heart. She sounds 479 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: like she was just stressed and having a bad day. 480 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: Um it hurts. It hurts to hear her pain. Did 481 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: you hear her say I'm building my blog, my website. 482 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm so stressed. He doesn't really believe I can do 483 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: any of it. He would not let her in the 484 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: car and kept telling her to calm down. I'd be 485 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: upset too if I was out in the desert in 486 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: moabbe Utah and I'm not allowed back in my car, 487 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: I'd be upset too. But it hurts me that she's 488 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: working like a maniac, trying to launch something, trying to 489 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: build a business, and she's the one having to apologize 490 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: for quote being in a bad mood because she had 491 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: to work on her computer all morning. Yeah, that's it's 492 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: so hurtful to hear that. It seems like, you know, 493 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 1: the officer was going to give her a fine or 494 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: something for for domestic but they decided not to. And 495 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: it just blows my mind that. You know, he was 496 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: cool and collected in the video. But I mean, I 497 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: don't know what else to think about it. I'm just 498 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: really sad for her. It hurts my heart to see it. 499 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: I just hate hearing her so upset. Joining me is 500 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Gabby's mom and also her stepdad, Del Carson calmed down. 501 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: It's her van, She's the one building a business and 502 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: he's telling her her to calm down. I don't get it. 503 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: But my question to you is more of a legal one, 504 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: says you're the lawyer, the defense lawyer joining us. Why 505 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: can't the boyfriend just stay very simply where he last 506 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: saw her. Why did he come home and keep his 507 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: arrival a secret? He was there for about ten days 508 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: without her and with her van. He can very easily 509 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: communicate through other channels to law enforcement specifically what not 510 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: necessarily what transpired, but where she was last seen. And 511 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: the only reason I can fathom that a defense attorney 512 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't provide that information directly to law enforcement, okay without 513 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: a statement from his client, because he doesn't have to 514 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: give that and as a result, it can't be used 515 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: against him. But the only other reason is because there's 516 00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: a physical evidence present at that location which would implicate 517 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: the client. Yes, because if it's just a matter of telling, well, 518 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: I last saw her in Wyoming at this gas station, 519 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: we had a fight, we had a blow up, I 520 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: drove off. If it's that simple, why not say so? 521 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: Which tells me it's not that simple, Miss Schmidt, What 522 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: if anything, can you tell us about moving Gabby's possessions 523 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: into storage in Florida? I think so there's some speculation 524 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: and mixed up stories about that. We're kind of not 525 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: going to talk about that situation right now. Okay, okay, 526 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: I completely understand that. Let me go to Gharanamahia KSLTV. 527 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: What do we know about some of Gabby's belongings being 528 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: put in storage in Florida? She was living there in Florida, 529 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: the boyfriend lives there, the parents are there. What do 530 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: we know about her aud is being put in storage? 531 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: Is that correct? I actually can't confirm that either. I 532 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: do know from our earlier conversation with Nicole that she 533 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: had mentioned they had been saving for a long time 534 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: to take this trip. This was kind of a dream 535 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: of theirs to do, and they wanted to, you know, 536 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: get She mentioned that they had gotten rid of a 537 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: lot of their things to be able to get in 538 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: this van and go on this trip, and they were 539 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: planning for this to last several months. I mean, I 540 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 1: don't think she was due back in Florida until late October. So, yeah, 541 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: it concerns me to hear quote. We've been finding the 542 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: words of the boyfriend, Brian Laundry, mister Schmidt joining me. 543 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,479 Speaker 1: He's there in Jackson Halle, Wyoming, searching for Gabby. Did 544 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: you know them to have a contentious relationship. No, anytime 545 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: they were together, you know, they seem to be pretty happy. 546 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: You know, all of my interactions with him, it was 547 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: always very respectful, very nice. The two of them always 548 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: seemed to get along very well. You know, if there 549 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: was any indication, you know, we didn't. We didn't see it. 550 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: Miss Schmidt. What is your message today? What is your 551 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: message to everyone out there? Don't quit, keep trying, keep looking, 552 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: keep sharing her picture, her videos, look for her. And 553 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: I plead with the Laundry family to please say something, 554 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: anything to help us find her. Mister Schmidt, what is 555 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: your message? My message is to speak up, tell us 556 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: where she is. We're not going to stop until you speak, 557 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: Until you tell us what's going on, what happened. None 558 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: of that matters at this point. All that matters is 559 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: you tell us where she was left known to be 560 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: or where she is. That's all we want to know. 561 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: And you are to speak up. Please. You know, Miss Schmidt, 562 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: you and I agree on so many things, and one 563 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 1: of them is there is nothing stronger than a mother's 564 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: law of do you feel in your heart? Does your 565 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 1: intuition tell you your daughter is alive and out there 566 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: to be found. Yes, and I believe she needs help, 567 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: and because I know her, and she just wants somebody 568 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: to help her. And I beg for everybody to just 569 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: keep looking, and you know, do what you can. Everybody 570 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: do it you can, because now at this point she 571 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: has America's daughter. She's she's your daughter, he's my daughters, 572 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: he's everybody's daughters. Let's just find her. You are hearing 573 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: the voice of and Nicole Schmidt, Gabby's mother, and her 574 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: stepfather Jim Schmidt there and ym and trying his best 575 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: to find her, braving the elements along with police and 576 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: searchers looking for Gabby. Won't you help us if you 577 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: have information or think you saw her or the boyfriend, 578 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: laundry or the converted twenty twelve Ford transit white in color, 579 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: Please call one eight hundred call f b I the 580 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: numbers one eight hundred, two two five, five, three two four. 581 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: The search for Gabby goes on Nancy Grace Crime Story, 582 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: signing off, our prayers continue. Goodbye friend