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Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The thoughts and

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Speaker 1: the subject matter and your needs. Hi. I'm Sanders Champlain.

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Speaker 1: For almost twenty five years, I've been on a journey

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Speaker 1: to prove the existence of life after death. On each

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Speaker 1: episode will discuss the reasons we now know that our

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Speaker 1: loved ones have survived physical death and so will we.

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Speaker 1: Well to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm always fascinated by

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Speaker 1: people passionate about the history of spiritualism and how we

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Speaker 1: today I want to introduce you to Reverend Glenda McLeod,

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Speaker 1: she's been teaching mediumship and she's very, very passionate about

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Speaker 1: the history. And so this is actually a prerecorded conversation

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Speaker 1: So let's listen modern spiritualists. You know, it started back

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Speaker 1: in March one eighty eight, so we're a hundred and

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Speaker 1: You're so welcome. Do you want to mention anything else

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Speaker 1: about modern spiritualism because some people might not be familiar. Oh, sure,

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Speaker 1: there's lots about modern spiritualism. And you know, if you

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Speaker 1: see many things about modern spiritualism. So what has happened

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Speaker 1: So Andrew Jackson Davis, on the eve of modern Spiritualism,

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Speaker 1: Now we came from a place of maybe there's something

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Speaker 1: We have such a rich history and spiritualism. We have

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Speaker 1: number seventeen. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle actually gave up writing

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Speaker 1: a dinner party and I went into my spirit room.

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Speaker 1: I always have a dedicated room where I meet with

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Speaker 1: my people. And I was in my spirit room and

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Speaker 1: Tony Stockwell had a meditation that you can ASKTI travel

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Speaker 1: I'm going to try that. So I sat in my room.

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Speaker 1: I put on this this CD, and I went into

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Speaker 1: are you happy now? He said, go and live your life.

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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and we are with

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Speaker 1: Reverend Glenda McCloud. Now, Glenda, you were just telling us

486
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: a beautiful story of you taking that mind journey and

487
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: seeing your relatives like me. Are you still skeptical? Are

488
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: there times that you just can't believe this is true?

489
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: That your mind conjured it up. It wasn't from the

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00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: spirit world. Even knowing what I know, I still said

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00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: to myself, but my brain needed that, so it conjured

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00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: that up for comfort. But it was pleasant, and I

493
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: went out, and then people came for the dinner, and

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00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: the other minister we were sitting around the table and

495
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: she says, oh, I have something for you. I got

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Speaker 1: out of the shower and there was an apport on

497
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: my table so that I don't know how it got there.

498
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: And a port is something that the spirit will can

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Speaker 1: take from one place and put into another place, like

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Speaker 1: a flower or a dime or something like that. They

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00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: don't just materialize it, but can they can take it

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Speaker 1: and bring it from one place to another. So there

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00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: was this support on the table, she says, and she

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00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: hands me this envelope. I said, oh okay. She said,

505
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: they told me that they needed to be done this

506
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: way that you would understand what it meant. And so

507
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: I tears off the envelope and I dumped it on

508
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: the table and outfalls a shaft of wheat. Oh my goodness.

509
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: And I still have I have these things in my room.

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Speaker 1: Where do we rease all the time? So you know,

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00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: I know do I believe that I went up to

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Speaker 1: the spirit world. I can't say that I believe that

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Speaker 1: in my whole heart. But do I believe that I've

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00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 1: comforted and supported by the Spirit world. Absolutely, you know,

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00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: there is no doubt in my mind. And I always

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00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: thought that I would love to hear the spirit world

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00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: speaking to me through direct voice. That would be the

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00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: end all. Like I've I've almost got everything on my

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00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: bucket list that I have experienced except direct voice. Do

520
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: you want to explain what that is? Direct voice is

521
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: when your family member can speak to you in the room, well,

522
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: if you were to speak through an amplifier. How that's

523
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: what they do there. They take the ectoplasm, which is

524
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: the materials from the sitter, and then they and there

525
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: has to be a physical medium president and then the

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00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: spirit world has their own concoction and they put it

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Speaker 1: together and they make this voice box or an amplifier,

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Speaker 1: and it's invisible that the spirit world can put their

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Speaker 1: mouth over it, and it's like an amplifier into our world.

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00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: So they can talk into it and we can hear

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Speaker 1: the voice, but you don't see it, You just hear it.

532
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: So the medium can be talking to you like we're talking,

533
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: and then your your family member will come and say

534
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: hello to you and start talking to you. Just it

535
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: seems out of nowhere in the air, and it's just

536
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: the most exciting thing that you could ever imagine to happen.

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00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: I know, I was in Maui with my my friends,

538
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: UM and a gentleman came over, who was the manager

539
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: of this complex, and he said, I hear you're a medium.

540
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: And I really don't like that, because when I'm having

541
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: my own time, I liked that my own time. But

542
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I says I am. He says, well,

543
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: he says I get things too, and he says, honest

544
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: to God, I do. And he crossed himself and he says,

545
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: you know I don't make things up. And I said,

546
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: he said I do. In my my sweet things go

547
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: flying around the room and that. And he was not

548
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: a medium, he had no training, nothing like that. He

549
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 1: was just a natural. So I said, when can I

550
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: come over now. I went over to his place, just

551
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: me and him. And the night before I went over,

552
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: his daughter came to me and she gave me some

553
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: information to give to him, and uh, I went over

554
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: there and I says, I've got some message from your daughter.

555
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: I said, okay, if I let you know, and he goes, Nope,

556
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about it. I said, oh, okay,

557
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: and he says, but let's listen to this. So he

558
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: turns on you know, you know what e v P is,

559
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: Electronic voice phenomena. Well, he had on the like a

560
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: two way radio. And most people, if you get it,

561
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: you'll hear here and all this this noise, and you'll

562
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: they put little words together. And so he turns this

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00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: thing on, and I'll tell you there was none of

564
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: that screeching, none of that noise in the background, because hello, friends,

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00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: he said, do you know who I have here today?

566
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: And they said yes, it's Glanda, Oh my gosh. And

567
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: he was speaking to the spirit world through this box

568
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: who was speaking back information. And because we both connected

569
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: with loved ones, and because they were both giving us

570
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: clear isabel information from the spirit world and proof that

571
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: they were talking through this box, I spoke to my

572
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: thought father and and then I looked at him after

573
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: and I says, okay, now, can I give you a message?

574
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: I said it to the box. I says, would you

575
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: let your father know if it's okay for me? To

576
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: give the message you gave to him, and so she

577
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: said through the box, yes, and so he said okay.

578
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: So I gave him the message and he just started crying,

579
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: which was a huge healing for him, but it was

580
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: also a healing for me. So it's always a two

581
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: way street that from spirit through spirit to spirit, you know.

582
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: And that's the blessing of mediumship is you always get

583
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: touched by the love of the spirit. It's magic. It's

584
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: really magical story, Glenda, just that you happened to be

585
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: in Maui and that you met him and then I

586
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: had that experience. Now do you think there's not an

587
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: intelligence that orchestrates all these things? You know? And and

588
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: even in these times, there is an intelligence that sometimes

589
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: we just have to ride the waves because there is

590
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: so much more than we'll ever know. But at the

591
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: same time, if we can look at it from a

592
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: different perspective of of how this one thing that maybe

593
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: is trying to destroy is is going to be the

594
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: one thing that is going to bring us together. It's

595
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: going to move mountains, it's going to change people's souls,

596
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: is going to ignite the compassion and messages of hope

597
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: within them, and I think we're going to see a

598
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: different world from this moment forward. And what beauty is that,

599
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: because it's not anything to do with the spirit world

600
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: that has created this. It's human humanity that it's created this.

601
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: And you know that they're working so hard with us,

602
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: and they I'm sure they keep banging their head on

603
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: the wall. Think, you know, my goodness, that they ever

604
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: going to get it. I know, I know, Glenda, you

605
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: had talked about the Great War and the birth of

606
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: modern spiritualism. It just made me think that there's a

607
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: different kind of Great war going on right now with

608
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: the pandemic, and from a spiritualist side, do you think

609
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: might arise or a need in this world now and

610
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: when this is done with, because obviously this is taking

611
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: a lot of lives. You know, Sandra, one of my teachers,

612
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: And I know this may not be the answer you're

613
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: looking for, but if you haven't heard about the legacy

614
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: of Gordon Higginson and the five mediums that he put

615
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: under his wing, which was Simon James, Glenn Edwards, Paul Jacobs,

616
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: Navis Ptila and Eileen Davies, and I went to train

617
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: with all of them. Now I just got Paul Jacobs

618
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: in September. But Navie's Pateila, I don't know if you

619
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: haven't heard her latest inspirational talk in these times, I

620
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: will give you a link to it and send it

621
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: to you. She says that everybody is trying to link

622
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: up with the spirit world to find out this information

623
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: exactly what you're asking, and she says that they're not

624
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: getting the answers, spears not telling them the answers. This

625
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: has to come like it's an inside job. Everybody has

626
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: to do their own work, their own inside job. It's

627
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: a matter of sitting and connecting to your soul and

628
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: reconnection and reigniting that light within everybody. It's about tuning

629
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Speaker 1: in to what you're learning from the US, to what

630
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: your experience is with this. And we know that with

631
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: the technology that this is a very different type of war.

632
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: And we can all have our own opinions, we can

633
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: all have our own perspectives on this, because there are

634
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: people that are going to be hurting. There are people

635
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: that are fearful because they're so bound in materialistic, outpouring

636
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: views that they haven't had a chance to sit in

637
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: who they are. There is such power if if if

638
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: people could look into their soul. If people could close

639
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: their eyes and look into you, imagine a pure's love

640
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: that you can imagine, and this is your soul. And

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Speaker 1: we know that the soul is connected to your spirit,

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Speaker 1: I truly believe that if we can get enough people

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Speaker 1: It's like a momentum. It's like you move forward and

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Speaker 1: you start to discover things that you've never discovered before.

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Speaker 1: Now people will look and say, look at the beauty

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Speaker 1: as a human being. And how together we can make

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Speaker 1: such a difference, you know. And and it's not only us,

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Speaker 1: it's our family in the spirit world. It's knowing that

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Speaker 1: this is just part of our journey and eternity. And

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Speaker 1: what kind of a legacy do you want to leave?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to be so busy that you don't

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Speaker 1: notice how beautiful that everything is around us? Like I

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Speaker 1: think this is going to be like the phoenix. There's

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Speaker 1: going to be a crashing and then the rising. And

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Speaker 1: I truly wish that for everybody. I wish everybody takes

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Speaker 1: that moment if they can write down one word every

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Speaker 1: I can breathe today, you know one thing, it will

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Speaker 1: start to change the mindset. It one word and it builds,

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Speaker 1: you know. I truly believe that in my heart. But

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Speaker 1: that's of course my opinion. I believe it too. It's

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Speaker 1: not uncommon for me to write down a ton of

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Speaker 1: things I'm grateful for and it just lifts my mood

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Speaker 1: from darkness to happier times. We'll be back with you, Glenda,

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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlaine. Welcome back to Shades

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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlaine and we're here with

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Speaker 1: the beautiful Reverend Glenda McLoud. Glenda, what other advice do

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Speaker 1: you have for our listeners today, Well, I want to

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Speaker 1: remind you that your ego is always trying to fight you,

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Speaker 1: and you've got such an active frame. But your brain

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Speaker 1: has been conditioned. It's been conditioned by learning, by media,

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Speaker 1: by things that it has brought with it into this

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Speaker 1: world from vast generations. You know, the DNA, all that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. But you have a mind, you know,

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Speaker 1: the mind connected in within the brain. For me, there

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Speaker 1: seems to be within humanity a catalyst. Now, the catalyst

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Speaker 1: can be on a very personal level, which will give

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Speaker 1: you a crossroads. And with that crossroads, it's our choice,

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Speaker 1: it's the natural law of cause and a fact, it's

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Speaker 1: our choice where we want to go in that crossroads.

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Speaker 1: You know, we can go into a place of bitterness

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Speaker 1: and victim, or we can go into a place and

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Speaker 1: and rise above and kind of detach from that and

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Speaker 1: take a look at it from a different perspective. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I think there's such a such an intelligence that sometimes

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Speaker 1: the catalyst has to be on a global scale. So

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Speaker 1: if we have a catalyst on a global scale, that

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Speaker 1: will put you at a crossroads that will say what

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Speaker 1: do you want to buy into? What do you want

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Speaker 1: to believe. Do you want to believe that this is

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Speaker 1: the end of the world this is or do you

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Speaker 1: want to believe this is the beginning of our new world.

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Speaker 1: You can buy into whatever you choose to buy into.

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Speaker 1: And we all know that fear is you're always looking

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Speaker 1: into a place you shouldn't be, which is tomorrow. The

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Speaker 1: egoism as a sense to go into the worst case scenario.

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Speaker 1: The spirit doesn't go to tomorrow because the spirit knows

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Speaker 1: that we have opportunity here to change tomorrow. So what

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Speaker 1: I would recommend, if anybody can quiet the mind, or

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Speaker 1: if you can't quite the mind, just to look at

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Speaker 1: those thoughts and say, ah, that's very interesting, but you're

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Speaker 1: not welcome here. You're not going to sabotage this beautiful

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Speaker 1: light that I have. You're not welcome here. Glenda, How

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Speaker 1: is this changing your practice? Obviously you're not going into

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Speaker 1: your church. Are you able to still do readings from

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Speaker 1: your home on phone or internet or any of that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I can do Yeah, I can do zoom readings. I

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Speaker 1: can do phone readings. And I have people that have

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Speaker 1: been asking and asking, and um, what I feel is

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Speaker 1: the responsibility because I took some vows. I took some

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Speaker 1: vows to help spread the light of the spirit world. Um.

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Speaker 1: They have helped me so much. I trust them so

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Speaker 1: much in my life that I have promised that because

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Speaker 1: they changed my life so much, I would serve them.

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Speaker 1: And in order to do that, I feel a responsibility

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Speaker 1: to reach out is somehow. But right now, I think

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Speaker 1: we just need to help change the mindset, um, because

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Speaker 1: there's so much materialistic mindset in there that feels that

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Speaker 1: there might not be enough where an actual, actual fact

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Speaker 1: is more than enough. You know. We just need to

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Speaker 1: know how to how to get out of that place

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Speaker 1: and into a place at different place. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm hoping to do. And I'll be doing that

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Speaker 1: because I worked the three websites. I work not the websites,

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Speaker 1: but the Facebook's Universal whether it's Spiritualist Church. Wait, let's

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Speaker 1: start again. I'm writing these down so we can post

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Speaker 1: this for the Universal Brotherhood Spiritualist Church. So I do

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Speaker 1: that Facebook page. I do spiritual communications with Glenda McLeod

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Speaker 1: Spiritualist page, and I do Fanenko Spiritualist enter Facebook page. Wonderful.

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Speaker 1: So Glenda, we have a few minutes left, look into

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Speaker 1: that inspirational heart of yours, or if there's something going

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Speaker 1: on that you'd like to share, or just anything you

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Speaker 1: want to say to kind of wrap it up before

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Speaker 1: we say until again. Okay, thank you, Sandras. So why

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Speaker 1: don't we just take a moment to take a breath

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Speaker 1: together and take this beautiful deep breath and know that

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Speaker 1: this energy that we're connected to by the media is

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Speaker 1: energy that will continue you on in the media. You

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Speaker 1: can record it, you can listen to it again. What

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Speaker 1: would make you think that the energy of your loved

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Speaker 1: one cannot be heard again, that it doesn't live on.

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Speaker 1: If something is so simple as the energy of a

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Speaker 1: telephone call, why not the energy of those beautiful family

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Speaker 1: members and loved ones in the spare world, And sometimes

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Speaker 1: if you're quiet enough, you might just hear them with

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Speaker 1: your name. God, bless you all. Thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: and allowing me to to be part of your communication today. Sandra,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and thank you Glenda. It's really been an

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Speaker 1: honor to have you here and for our listeners. You know,

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Speaker 1: Glenda has told us that story and seeing her dad

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Speaker 1: in the wheat fields and getting that piece of wheat

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Speaker 1: apported from the neighbor. Interest staying because the spirit world

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Speaker 1: uses our imagination. You know, it's said so many times

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Speaker 1: that when we get to heaven and we get to

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Speaker 1: the hereafter, the way we communicate is through our thoughts.

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Speaker 1: So we are here on earth and we're living in

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Speaker 1: a physical body and over there, yeah, there might not

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Speaker 1: be real time. Time is an illusion for them we

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Speaker 1: always here, but for us time is very very real.

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Speaker 1: So while things might not happen in the blink of

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Speaker 1: an eye, here we are very powerful. So the way

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Speaker 1: we communicate is through our thoughts, and is through our feelings,

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Speaker 1: and is through our imagination and our emotions. So before

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Speaker 1: a nap in the afternoon, or if you just have

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Speaker 1: some quiet time, maybe when you wake up in the morning,

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Speaker 1: put yourself in that space, that very almost hypnotic space

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Speaker 1: that we naturally go through. And we hear about some

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Speaker 1: and then they do a tremendous job, and we can

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Speaker 1: do the same thing. And although we may think it's

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Speaker 1: just our imagination, we have to remember that that's how

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Speaker 1: the spirit world get through to us. So take a

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Speaker 1: few deep breaths and just relax. And you may want

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Speaker 1: to visualize yourself going down some steps of stairs just

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Speaker 1: to relax, and each step you go down, you just

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Speaker 1: become more and more relaxed. If your mind kicks in

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Speaker 1: and wants to think about thoughts of the day and

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Speaker 1: what you shouldn't or shouldn't have done, just imagine each

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Speaker 1: thought is like a bubble of air under the ocean

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Speaker 1: and just rising to the surface and let it go.

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Speaker 1: But go down those sets of stairs, and when you

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Speaker 1: get to the bottom, imagine maybe your favorite place. It

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Speaker 1: might be out in the meadow, it might be on

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Speaker 1: a beach, it might be in a park. Imagine that

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Speaker 1: there's a comfy place for you to sit, and that

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Speaker 1: there's an empty chair or bench with you, and imagine

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Speaker 1: everything you can about the scene and as much clarity

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Speaker 1: as you can, and gently invite your loved one to

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Speaker 1: sit with you. Now, I know the mind will kick

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Speaker 1: in and try to say something like this isn't possible,

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Speaker 1: But trust to me, this is how they communicate. When

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Speaker 1: we sit, we can have that mind to mind communication

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Speaker 1: with them with our feelings, with our words, and when

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Speaker 1: they respond and let them respond. See how you feel,

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Speaker 1: see what the words are. One little bit of guidance.

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Speaker 1: If you feel something negative coming through, well there's a

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Speaker 1: ninety nine point chance, well actually chance that it's your

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Speaker 1: own mind. Our loved ones when they cross into that

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Speaker 1: great unknown, that hereafter their whole, complete and perfect again.

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Speaker 1: All those feelings of any negativity or guilt or any

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Speaker 1: of those things that are left behind. What's left is

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