WEBVTT - Friday Flight - 3% Mortgages, Secondhand Steals, & Leg Room Lunacy #564

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I am Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're discussing three percent mortgages, second hand steels,

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<v Speaker 1>and leg room lunacy. You know what, buddy, this is

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<v Speaker 1>our Friday Flights. Well, we're gonna talk about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the different stories we came across this week, the most

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<v Speaker 1>important headlines that we think you need to pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to real quick. I wanted to share a quick personal

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<v Speaker 1>anecdote though, So back in the spring when we listened

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<v Speaker 1>our house, back when the housing market was quite hot,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular for the sellers out there, we had a

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<v Speaker 1>number of offers, a number of competitive offers on our

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<v Speaker 1>Place two in particular, we were trying to decide between

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<v Speaker 1>but one of the buyers they had included within their

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<v Speaker 1>offer the ability to stay in mountain cabin. Have we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this on the show? I can't remember, so

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<v Speaker 1>if we if we have, it's always have to know

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<v Speaker 1>what we've talked about only in real life with you

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<v Speaker 1>and me sitting here in the office, versus what we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about on the show. And granted, this wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>tipped the scales if the other offer was super strong.

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<v Speaker 1>If they had come in with a really high price.

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<v Speaker 1>At that point, it just kind of comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers. You kind of have to do the math.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to overvalue this mountain cabin stay. It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what can I book this formally night let's say exactly

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<v Speaker 1>it's value if maybe an extra thousand bucks, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was still enough to put them on our radar, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more than otherwise. Right. But simultaneously I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit curious to see if we were

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<v Speaker 1>actually going to take advantage of that, because it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things were on paper. It seems like this

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<v Speaker 1>nice perk's offer literally a tent and you're like, dang it,

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<v Speaker 1>no they failed again. They did include pictures and it

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<v Speaker 1>looked really nice, and we thought, oh, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is actually something we should consider as we're making a decision. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the good news is that we actually just booked it.

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<v Speaker 1>We we've kind of been in touch with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't sure if we're going to reach out to

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<v Speaker 1>them and they're gonna say, oh, by the way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>book for the next two years. That was a joke,

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<v Speaker 1>but we know it's in the contract man. No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was, And that is something that we just books.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually, yeah, we're looking forward to doing that this

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<v Speaker 1>this fall for a few days. But the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to share that is because it was a way

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<v Speaker 1>that these buyers that they got creative in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get the house that they wanted. Uh. And we're actually

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that in other ways, not necessarily from the buyer's standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>but from the seller standpoint. So our first story, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about mortgage loan assumptions because obviously mortgage rates,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like they're still low if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>take kind of like if you zoom out and take

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<v Speaker 1>a long term look. I kinda want to make a

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<v Speaker 1>joke about assumptions here, by the way, because I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what they say about people who make assumptions,

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<v Speaker 1>right man, But I think this type of assumptions, though,

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<v Speaker 1>are a good thing. Exactly. Yeah, So let's just like

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<v Speaker 1>spell that out real quick. This assumption is literally you

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<v Speaker 1>taking over somebody else's mortgage, right, So not going out

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<v Speaker 1>and getting your own mortgage, but when someone is selling

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<v Speaker 1>that house, you are saying, not only am I taking

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<v Speaker 1>your house, when I'm taking your mortgage at the same time, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>And and The interesting thing is that almost nobody did

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<v Speaker 1>this for a whole lot of years. But as mortgage

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<v Speaker 1>rates have risen just astronomically recently, we've we've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more mortgage assumptions taking place now that rates are

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<v Speaker 1>in the six percent range. It's pricing some folks out

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<v Speaker 1>of the out of the housing market. Well, if you

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<v Speaker 1>get that same house, same price, but with a three

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<v Speaker 1>percent mortgage, you might be able to afford it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And there are what will point out a big chunk

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<v Speaker 1>of loans that are not assumable based on the way

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<v Speaker 1>the contract is written from that mortgage lender, like they

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<v Speaker 1>can't transfer it into your name. These are specifically government

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<v Speaker 1>backboard like that like v A loans, loans, U s

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<v Speaker 1>d A loans, some of these loans that are directly

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<v Speaker 1>backed by the US government exactly. So. The interesting thing though,

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<v Speaker 1>is as you're out there searching for homes to buy,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to likely see people touting this inside of

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<v Speaker 1>the listing, right because if they have this two point

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<v Speaker 1>seven five percent mortgage or three and a half percent

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<v Speaker 1>mortgage that they're willing to let you assume that's an

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<v Speaker 1>that's a huge check mark for them and for their property.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna get a lot more potential buyers if those

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<v Speaker 1>buyers know that they can take on that much lower mortgage.

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<v Speaker 1>Right at the same time, I will say it's a

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<v Speaker 1>tricky process though, even if you even if the house

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<v Speaker 1>does come with an assumable loan, for instance, it maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that loan might only cover the purchase price and you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to either bring cash or get another. Loans are

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<v Speaker 1>so much higher likely than when they actually purchase that home.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it may not only it may only cover

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<v Speaker 1>a small portion of the overall purchase price of that property. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that Wall Street Journal article about assumable mortgages was

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<v Speaker 1>something I was like, I I know it's more common

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<v Speaker 1>actually in other countries, I believe in Great Britain. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things. It's kind of hard for the course,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would it would seem like this should be

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<v Speaker 1>more normal here where you don't have to but the

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<v Speaker 1>bank's benefit right from every time somebody does takes out

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<v Speaker 1>a fresh new loan, when if we just had more

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<v Speaker 1>assumable loans, it would cut down on some of those

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<v Speaker 1>transaction fees that were always railing against matt when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to buying and selling real estate. I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to see more mortgage loans become assumable, more people transferring

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<v Speaker 1>mortgages to each other as they buy or sell a house.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. It's good to see at least

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of uptick in this regard, that's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so there is a way for you to get that

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<v Speaker 1>two and three quarters mortgage radees, but they're they're just

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<v Speaker 1>you and far between. Not not terribly easy, but it's possible,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So we talked recently about the duopoly and

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<v Speaker 1>the monopoly reality that most folks face when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to paying for internet at home. There are really just

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<v Speaker 1>a few companies around the country who are out there

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<v Speaker 1>competing with each other. So the options they remain pretty crappy,

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<v Speaker 1>and the prices because of that, they stay pretty high.

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<v Speaker 1>Speeds are low, and your mostly bill is exorbit But

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that we failed to mission is that technology

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<v Speaker 1>is helping to bring more competition to the space, helping

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<v Speaker 1>this to hopefully become more of a problem of the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the major cell phone companies out there, like

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<v Speaker 1>Verizon and T Mobile, they are selling their five G

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<v Speaker 1>cell service, but it's not just cell phone service, it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually gonna be able to replace your current WiFi set

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<v Speaker 1>up that you have at home. And the price, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not all that bad either. It's like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty bucks from T Mobile. Uh and plans start at

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<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars as well with Verizon, although folks who currently

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<v Speaker 1>have Verizon for cell phone service they can get an

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<v Speaker 1>even lower rate by bundling. I haven't tested these out personally,

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<v Speaker 1>but from what we've read, the reviews look really good

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<v Speaker 1>and the price is good as well. Uh And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's good to see that there these are some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like realistic options that would allow you to

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<v Speaker 1>take a completely different approach to getting internet at home

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to going the more traditional path, which always

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<v Speaker 1>feels so cumbersome as well. Right, like you, So you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be there in person because the guy is

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<v Speaker 1>going to show up. I think he's gonna drill a

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<v Speaker 1>random hole in your house. Who knows where exactly, He's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna drill over everyone. When we moved in the

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<v Speaker 1>A T and T guy came out, we we had

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<v Speaker 1>to talk a long time about where he's gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>this whole and it was just kind of I don't know, it.

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<v Speaker 1>It took a long time. These five five G service

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<v Speaker 1>at it seems like it's it's going to be the future.

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<v Speaker 1>And the speeds or something like in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>average range of a hundred megs up to like a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty megs with a couple of these plans,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's worth looking into. Let's say, if you're currently

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<v Speaker 1>paying for internet service every single month, but that speed

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<v Speaker 1>is going to serve you just fine, or maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>just found that like yeah, you've called the customer retention

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<v Speaker 1>department again, like we've suggested, and they have finally got

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<v Speaker 1>onto your game, and then they're not lowering your rate anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically they will, but not always. Well, it might be

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<v Speaker 1>it might be time to try out one of these

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<v Speaker 1>five G plans, and if you do, let us know,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know how it goes. And that one thing

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<v Speaker 1>you you mentioned was that if you are currently a

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<v Speaker 1>Verizon customer, you can get an even better deal on

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<v Speaker 1>this five G service. Sadly that means that you're paying

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<v Speaker 1>so much extra though for cell phone service that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>not worth it. If you mean, if you just leave,

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and do the math, like take the whole

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<v Speaker 1>picture into account, right, because if maybe you are with

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<v Speaker 1>Mint Mobile, uh, and you've got that price down and

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<v Speaker 1>you are able to pay maybe more than you want

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<v Speaker 1>to because you are with Comcast. But if your overall

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<v Speaker 1>net cost is going to be lower, of course, stick

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<v Speaker 1>with what you've got going on. But if you do

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<v Speaker 1>the math and you realize that, you know what, paying

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<v Speaker 1>more for a Verizon cellfone service, uh, that would allow

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<v Speaker 1>me to pay a lot less for my home internet,

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<v Speaker 1>you could totally come out ahead. Yeah, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to the numbers. Baby. I saw if you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually a Verizon cell customer, you can get the internet

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<v Speaker 1>for as low as twenty five dollars a month. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that's pretty good, pretty sweet. Yeah. Alright, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about travel for a second, because we had travel

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<v Speaker 1>expert Scott Kais on the show a while back. Matt

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<v Speaker 1>and we we talked a little bit about leg room

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<v Speaker 1>on airplanes or the lack thereof, and airlines are, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing their best to charge us more for tiny

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<v Speaker 1>slivers of extra space as they've shrunk the distance between

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<v Speaker 1>seats by a meaningful number of inches over the past

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<v Speaker 1>couple of decades. Matt, I'm six ft six and so

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<v Speaker 1>every inch of leg room they take away. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>it like in my knees, in my back, all over,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I don't love feel it in a pinky.

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<v Speaker 1>It hurts there too, exactly exactly. My left ear lobe

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<v Speaker 1>particularly throbs Matt on these long flights. But I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>seen some drawings recently for potential cabin configurations where you're

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<v Speaker 1>more in like an upright seat where they're packing a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot more people in and you're in this like

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<v Speaker 1>semi standing positions, like an adjustable bike seat basically strattle,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're yeah, it's almost like the steading roller coasters

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<v Speaker 1>that you like, get It's almost exactly like that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the best. Yeah, that's one only lasts uh forty five seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas the other last for four and a half out

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<v Speaker 1>right right, Well, I mean no, no carriers have actually

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<v Speaker 1>tried to implement anything like this yet. But the interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing is they might not have the chance because apparently

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Transportation is considering imposing a minimum seat

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<v Speaker 1>requirements for how much legroom people have, and it's currently

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<v Speaker 1>open for public comment on their site. Now, I, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>like I told you, I don't like being crammed into

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<v Speaker 1>a seat. I don't like feeling like a sardine where

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<v Speaker 1>my knees are literally buffled up against the seat and

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<v Speaker 1>front of me. But I will say I also like

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<v Speaker 1>saving money, and I am more than willing to endure

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<v Speaker 1>some discomfort to save an extra couple hundred dollars on

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<v Speaker 1>a three or four hour flight. So I'm not the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of person who wants to fly first class, who

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<v Speaker 1>wants even the premium economy. Stick me in the back

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<v Speaker 1>with all the regular folks who also have their knees

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<v Speaker 1>cram begins to seat in front of them. Um, if

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<v Speaker 1>it means I get to save money, I'm totally cool

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<v Speaker 1>with it. So we're stuck hearing you complaining about it,

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<v Speaker 1>like Jill does not want to be forced to pay that,

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<v Speaker 1>But you always shall have the option to pay for that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Like that's the thing that we love so

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<v Speaker 1>much about the way things I guess currently are is

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<v Speaker 1>that you have the choice. Like imagine if you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to fly somewhere you didn't have a ton of money,

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<v Speaker 1>but you gotta fly, Well, you're probably gonna consider going

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<v Speaker 1>with Spirit or you know, somebody like that where you

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<v Speaker 1>can basically sneer at you the whole time. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're going to charge you for every little thing,

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<v Speaker 1>But it is most likely absolutely be the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to save and to be able to fly there for

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<v Speaker 1>the least amount of money possible. But if these regulations pass, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, that more affordable fare isn't going to exist

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<v Speaker 1>because essentially you're you're you're forcing the airlines to pass

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<v Speaker 1>some of those costs onto you. One of the other

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<v Speaker 1>most beautiful things about the major discounters like Spirit Matt

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<v Speaker 1>is the number show. When Spirit comes into a market,

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of money that the major airlines are charging

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<v Speaker 1>for seats goes down to So it's not just the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they're tramping people into cheap seats on on

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<v Speaker 1>the Spirit airlines and that you could save money that way.

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<v Speaker 1>It just because of the competition. Just because there are

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper seats on Spirit means that their competitors, the even

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that are are fullfair airlines, are gonna they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be cheaper too, exactly because if they're forced to

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<v Speaker 1>have fewer seats on these planes, that's going to lead

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<v Speaker 1>to higher prices. Uh. But you know, so in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll see what happens. We don't know, um fingers

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<v Speaker 1>across those of the airlines that they keep doing their

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<v Speaker 1>thing and that customers they are able to choose the

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<v Speaker 1>airline that they want to do business with accordingly, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. Over time, it depends on It's not

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<v Speaker 1>even just you and what you're gradually getting used to,

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<v Speaker 1>but like it depends maybe from trip to trip or

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<v Speaker 1>even year to year. You might have like a really

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<v Speaker 1>good year and you're thinking, you know it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm flying anywhere this year, I'm gonna do first class. Baby, like,

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<v Speaker 1>no longer shall my knees be crammed. But like let's

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<v Speaker 1>say three years from now, in fact, growth three more

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<v Speaker 1>inches and it becomes just untenable. Likely you're done growing.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you have the option. And that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>love the most is that folks have the option to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Although that being said, some of these, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the extra leg room seats out there, they come with

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<v Speaker 1>extra perks, like free drinks, which is kind of cool,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, flying so that your knees so that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't ram into the seat in front of you,

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<v Speaker 1>like that might be your craft beer equivalent, or you

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<v Speaker 1>might feel that that's just a basic human need from

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<v Speaker 1>your your point of view, But I think what's important

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<v Speaker 1>to keep in mind is that do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have the choice to make this purchase on your own

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<v Speaker 1>or do you want to be forced? Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be coerced into paying more? Because everybody is having

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<v Speaker 1>to provide, you know, fewer seats on a plane, they're

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<v Speaker 1>having to provide more leg room for everybody. Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>want people to have the choice, that's all. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine getting behind the wheel of Masa Miyata. Those things

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<v Speaker 1>seem tiny, and I think they should be wiped off

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<v Speaker 1>the face of the earth. Accordingly, like people who are

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<v Speaker 1>six six probably shouldn't be dry in those cars. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of Masa Miata fans. There's like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who are five four who taking

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<v Speaker 1>circuit and all they do is raise hota. Really do

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<v Speaker 1>you know that? Yeah? You remember Corey, our our old buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to be part of this uh Miata group

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<v Speaker 1>and they all got their mia have like a cult

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<v Speaker 1>following take him to the track. I would imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>cult following is mostly involved short people. But ironically enough,

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<v Speaker 1>Core was at least six, he was decent, and he

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<v Speaker 1>drove a Miata. Maybe they've got more legroom than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>giving them credit for him. Maybe so well, speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>the airlines, last week the U. S Department of Transportation,

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<v Speaker 1>they published a really helpful chart that's gonna allow you

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<v Speaker 1>to know what you're entitled to if you're affected by

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<v Speaker 1>what's known as a controllable flight cancelation or delay. And

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<v Speaker 1>this includes things like maintenance problems or let's say they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the right crew members for your flight, baggage

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<v Speaker 1>loading or fueling problems. Will actually link to this in

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<v Speaker 1>the show notes. But for example, if there's an overnight delay,

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<v Speaker 1>virtually all of the airline carriers they've admitted to providing

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<v Speaker 1>passengers with a complimentary hotel stay, all of them except

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<v Speaker 1>for one matt Uh not Spirit actually, but Frontier. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just because an airline hasn't committed to certain amenities across

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<v Speaker 1>the board, just because they're not listed on this website

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<v Speaker 1>as offering that benefit, that doesn't mean that they won't

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<v Speaker 1>hook you up if you ask. So it's important to

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<v Speaker 1>know that it's often up to the discretion of the

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<v Speaker 1>individual carrier and even the actual employee who you're speaking with, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it depends if if what what seats they sat

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<v Speaker 1>in in order to Is Jan having a good day?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know, but maybe Margaret over here is feeling

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<v Speaker 1>a little little happier and she's willing to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking care of right, But she got to set

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<v Speaker 1>in that extra first class seat. She didn't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the jump? Is that the jump seat that the

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<v Speaker 1>uh the airline doesn't Is that the best seat in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the house. No, not the bet They're just

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<v Speaker 1>like a little fold out like a piece of wood

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. They do not look super comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's well, well, yeah, I just it's just is important

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<v Speaker 1>to mention one that this exists and that you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see what you're entitled to, but also that

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<v Speaker 1>even if you're not publicly entitled to some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>compensation for one of these, you know, for a cancelation

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<v Speaker 1>or for a delay, you can still advocate for yourself

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<v Speaker 1>often again Matt via Twitter. Twitter is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best ways to get ahold of airline customer service and

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<v Speaker 1>and lots of times they'll take care of you when

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<v Speaker 1>legally they're not even required to. That's right, dude, All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we have several other stories we're gonna get to including

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<v Speaker 1>sacrificing a little bit of your privacy in order to

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<v Speaker 1>save more on insurance. We've got that story plus a

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<v Speaker 1>few others right after this. All right, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue here on the Friday flight. We're gonna talk continue

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<v Speaker 1>to cover some stories that we found interesting this week,

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<v Speaker 1>how they pertain to your personal finances. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>we always get to the ludicrous headline of the week

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<v Speaker 1>that's right now, and this one comes from Axios. The

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<v Speaker 1>headline reads new company encourages donate now, pay later charitable giving,

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<v Speaker 1>and the headline Matt just gave me the willies. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I know where this is going. It cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be good. It's basically by now, pay later. But instead

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<v Speaker 1>of spending your money on an item you want, it's

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<v Speaker 1>for giving money away to a cause that you care about.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say we were not surprised to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's as as you see that, you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, yeah, about of course it went there, that

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<v Speaker 1>this is where it went. Yeah, it's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>it's inevitable, right, It's it's a domino effect. We start

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<v Speaker 1>with BNPL, we get to g mp L and now yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even have to have the money in your

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<v Speaker 1>possession to give two causes you care about. They're just

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<v Speaker 1>so many problems with this though that it's it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to know really where to start. Like one, you're giving

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<v Speaker 1>away money you don't have to give to there's now

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<v Speaker 1>a middleman taking a cut of your donation somewhere between

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<v Speaker 1>eight and fifteen percent. So the charity that you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to support until you actually had the money, well

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<v Speaker 1>now they're not getting anywhere near the full benefit they

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<v Speaker 1>would have if you gave to them directly. Although I

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<v Speaker 1>will say that one of the things that the company

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<v Speaker 1>behind this that like one of their stats was that

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<v Speaker 1>something will give twice as much if they're presented with

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<v Speaker 1>this option. Whether or not that that is a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing is like, that's another debate, right, But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that certain nonprofits out there are able to potentially receive

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<v Speaker 1>even even more money, that's what the BNP is a

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<v Speaker 1>good argument have said the whole the whole time, folks

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<v Speaker 1>will spend more, Yeah, hey, put us on your website Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>and because people are gonna have bigger shopping carts because

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna buy more than they can actually afford and

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be good all the way around

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone. It's going to increase your bottom line. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you're giving away more money, I get why that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds nice to the charitable organizations. Hey, people are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give more money to you, but they're giving money that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have. And so we would say this, this

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<v Speaker 1>major league sucks. And we are all about supporting nonprofits

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<v Speaker 1>that are doing good work. We would say it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great thing to budget for monthly or annual giving. But

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<v Speaker 1>this feels shady and almost predatory, and it's definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to make those donations happen. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you see a gift now, pay later button, avoid it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do it. Because it's another modern iteration of a

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<v Speaker 1>stupid fintech offering that is bad for bad for individuals,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad for consumers. I will say, I'm willing to

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<v Speaker 1>play Devil's advocate a little bright here because so like

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<v Speaker 1>in this way, like simultaneously, I feel like it could

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<v Speaker 1>be a good thing if it allows somebody to commit

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<v Speaker 1>to a behavior that they might want to do but

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<v Speaker 1>that they find themselves not doing over time, right like

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<v Speaker 1>like I will see it almost like a tool, not

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<v Speaker 1>inherently a bad or an evil thing, but as a

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<v Speaker 1>tool that someone could potentially utilize. You're just sitting over

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<v Speaker 1>there staring at me that you can potentially utilize as

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<v Speaker 1>like a commitment device, right and so like in that way,

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<v Speaker 1>I almost feel also do the same with a recurring

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<v Speaker 1>credit card donation to my friend. You totally could. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely so I get what you're saying. And we've said

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing about bnpls, that they're not inherently wrong

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<v Speaker 1>or inherently bad. It's just that most people use them

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<v Speaker 1>slow us the typically yes they buy or give money that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they use importantly. And so that's why the the end

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<v Speaker 1>matters so much so much, right, and so the means

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<v Speaker 1>to the end here in this case, the end is

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<v Speaker 1>to give that money away when you're using it to

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<v Speaker 1>buy more junk, like more crap. I think that to

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<v Speaker 1>me that feels more pernicious, right, Like that's when you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're not really thinking through like do you really need

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff? Now? Do you really need that fancy

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<v Speaker 1>pair of running shorts or something. I'm just picking on

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<v Speaker 1>myself because that's like the last thing I bought but

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<v Speaker 1>not via pay now. But forgiving is not much better

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<v Speaker 1>than right, And it's not about going into debt. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're doing that, then then that's something that we

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<v Speaker 1>would discourage and a lot of people are well in

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<v Speaker 1>that case, I absolutely would discourage it. But yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>ability for somebody, I do see there being benefits, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like with by not pay later, there are some

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<v Speaker 1>benefits if say, it does allow somebody to turn their

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<v Speaker 1>credit around a little bit because those payments get counted

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<v Speaker 1>towards their credit. In the same way, I do see

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<v Speaker 1>there being some slight benefits potentially to having give now,

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<v Speaker 1>pay later be an option, and especially considering the f

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<v Speaker 1>are willing to give a little bit more of their

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<v Speaker 1>money away if presented without option. But that's well, And

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<v Speaker 1>so whether you're giving it or their future money, they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>That is true. Which is the problem, right it is

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<v Speaker 1>that is at the crux of the problem is people saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do this thing now, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the money to do it, But I'm gonna gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and commit to it because this tool exists

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<v Speaker 1>for me to be able to do that, and and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we talk like. Credit cards are are similar

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<v Speaker 1>in that way, although it's a shorter timeframe, and it

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<v Speaker 1>really can be as a method of payment, and it

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<v Speaker 1>comes with even better rewards. The only reward for bnp

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<v Speaker 1>L most of the time is just the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>hold off doing something you would have done otherwise. Whereas

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<v Speaker 1>credit cards offer additional benefits, we say, I mean ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>if someone can't afford it, right, if they are like

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<v Speaker 1>where it does feel like a loan in order to

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<v Speaker 1>give that seems like a very unhealthy, very unhealthy behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to seeing it as a way for some

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<v Speaker 1>folks I think are just entering into that mindset of

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<v Speaker 1>like they are seeing themselves months a month, and even

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<v Speaker 1>though discourage that, we want people to look ahead, We

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<v Speaker 1>want folks to plan and to budget and to do

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<v Speaker 1>things a little more proactively. I think there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of folks who are entering into this way of

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<v Speaker 1>handling their money where they are looking at it more

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<v Speaker 1>as just a kind of like a monthly amount, like

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<v Speaker 1>a subscription. This is how much I pay every month

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<v Speaker 1>that goes towards my you know, Netflix, or this is

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<v Speaker 1>how much I end up paying every month towards my groceries.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would say a c H though, or

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<v Speaker 1>setting up a monthly put it on autopilot shore but

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<v Speaker 1>by now give later to me could set you up

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a position, a financial position you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to find yourself in. Exactly. Yeah, I mean, ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>we don't like it, but I guess I do see

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<v Speaker 1>this as being a slight way that there someone is

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<v Speaker 1>using this technology for good. Obviously, if folks are using

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<v Speaker 1>it for consumables, then I think that's a very bad thing.

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.239
<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately that is how a lot of folks are

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<v Speaker 1>are using it. That's that's why it's wrecking the personal

0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.200
<v Speaker 1>finances of a lot of a lot of young folks. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>The Times had an article this past weekend about how

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<v Speaker 1>more individuals are turning to buy now, pay later for

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<v Speaker 1>just like basic purchases like gross trees. And then, of

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<v Speaker 1>course what ends up happening. Folks start spending more while

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<v Speaker 1>they're at the grocery store because they can pay for

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<v Speaker 1>multiple installments. And so why not get the the gourmet

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 1>cheese where I'm gonna go ahead and get the the

0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.520
<v Speaker 1>name brand cereal because it's a little bit nicer than

0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the off brand stuff. I'll just pay for it over time.

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 1>And so when you use it in this way, these

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<v Speaker 1>products are basically loans, and so taking out a loan

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<v Speaker 1>to buy groceries, we feel as a as a recipe

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<v Speaker 1>for disaster. We want you to be planning ahead in advance.

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<v Speaker 1>And while at the moment it does kind of seem

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<v Speaker 1>like you're a gray area, I think ultimately it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like that this is going to go. It's gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>leaning more in the direction of it being a massive

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<v Speaker 1>negative as opposed to being something that you can use

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<v Speaker 1>to your advantage. I agreed, And we've talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>some buy now, pay later companies are starting to report

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<v Speaker 1>to the credit bureaus, and so if you're a really

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.480
<v Speaker 1>savvy consumer who doesn't have a great credit score, it's

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, buying thoughtfully occasionally an item through BNPL when

0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.280
<v Speaker 1>you have the money, I'm ensuring that you pay it off.

0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:03.960
<v Speaker 1>As agreed, well, that can help boost your credit score.

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.840
<v Speaker 1>But for the most part, especially seeing that story about groceries,

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's a bar to see people getting into

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.879
<v Speaker 1>financial situations they wouldn't otherwise because these products exist and

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 1>they're using them thinking that they're better than they actually are.

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Um when for the most part people use them poorly.

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a tool, but it's it's mostly a crappy tool

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<v Speaker 1>for for most people. Let's let's move on the map.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a new survey from a company called Higher Visibility,

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<v Speaker 1>and they found that of gen z ears want to

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<v Speaker 1>become social media influencers. And when I read that, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what, that's that's not necessarily a

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<v Speaker 1>bad thing. I think it's okay to want to influence

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the people around you. And it is true that some

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:47.119
<v Speaker 1>social media content creators are able to make real money. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also true that there are only a select

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<v Speaker 1>few who make legitimate income doing so, who make a

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful amount, right, who make enough to I don't know,

0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:59.200
<v Speaker 1>pay the bills. And I guess, you know, influencers maybe

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.679
<v Speaker 1>are kind of the new pro athletes. That's like the

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>new hot job that people want. But we all know

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<v Speaker 1>by now that the percentage of folks who make it

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<v Speaker 1>to the pros in that field is infantessimally small too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. We had linebacker Brain and Copeland on recently,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talked about how difficult difficult it was to

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<v Speaker 1>make in the NFL, especially as an undrafted player. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to crush the dreams of the youngsters out there,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's wise to not put that profession on such

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<v Speaker 1>a pedestal and to put all your eggs in that basket.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to dabble and to see what happens, but

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 1>putting all of your efforts there, it's just it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea because again, so few people are actually

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make money, and I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>in that space. I don't have any hate for the

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>influencer crowd out there. I think it's I think it's

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>totally fine. I don't really participate much, um, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>totally cool that people make money online in that way.

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.199
<v Speaker 1>But it's just important to mention that something like the

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<v Speaker 1>one percent or even the point one percent, that's where

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>most of the money is going. And there's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of I want to be influencers out there who

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<v Speaker 1>who aren't making to dime. I like how you said

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to influence other people like you just completely

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>strip the word influencer of it's like negative connotation that

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 1>comes with it. Well, I think for some people the

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>reality is like they have a good heart and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to share cool things with the world, and so

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing wrong with being out there and talking to

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<v Speaker 1>your friends and sharing with others how you think or

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 1>how you feel about something. To be honest, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of crappy influencers out there who doing terrible things.

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 1>But I think most people the reason they want to

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<v Speaker 1>do this is because it sounds like fun and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to share something cool with others. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think that motive that desire is good. Yeah. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about saving money by being healthy? Uh, Joel,

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.400
<v Speaker 1>you know there's that saying that is it like an

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>ounce of prevention that's worth a pound of cure um.

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:45.959
<v Speaker 1>Though as a country, I feel like like we've not

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<v Speaker 1>been great at internalizing that when it comes to medicine

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.719
<v Speaker 1>or or honestly a lot of important elements of our

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:55.439
<v Speaker 1>society either. But apparently more insurance companies are starting to

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.640
<v Speaker 1>lean in this direction, implementing something called active insurance. Uh.

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 1>And so basically insurance companies they will reward you for

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<v Speaker 1>good behavior, which will have a direct impact on both

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>their bottom line and of course yours, which is why

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about it. Maybe your waistline too, if it's

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>a health insurance Yeah. And so, like one example is, yeah,

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 1>wearing like a health insurance company provided device to track

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>your physical activity. Uh, and if you start exercising and

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>losing weight, you might see reduced premiums or you know,

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>some other money saving rewards. Uh. The reality, man, is

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.160
<v Speaker 1>that like these sorts of products are going to continue

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to proliferate. And we think that that's a that's a

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>good thing when it comes to our ability to save money,

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>but honestly for our collective health as well, if we

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<v Speaker 1>just jump through a few hoops, I see this as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a great way for us to potentially like

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>we're sacrificing a little bit of privacy, uh, the insurance

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>companies maybe know a little bit more about us. Ultimately,

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:50.640
<v Speaker 1>this could be kind of like a frugal versus cheap,

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.679
<v Speaker 1>where you know, are we being cheap because we're sacrificing

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>our data here in the short term in order to

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.679
<v Speaker 1>save money here in the short term, but in the

0:26:57.720 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>long run to all of these companies they know more

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<v Speaker 1>about us. I do think that that will be a

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>good question for future discussions, but definitely something to keep

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>in mind as well. Before you which we often all do,

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 1>just instinctively click the checkbox that I agree with the

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.199
<v Speaker 1>whatever that consen Who's got the time to read all

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 1>of those, man, But I totally agree, but reports, I guess, so, yeah,

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>they're digging into those fine print for us. But the

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>last job I had, the last real job before podcasting

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>full time, we had this thing called Know your Numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>And what they did was once a year, Emily and

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I would go into into the into the office. They

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:35.159
<v Speaker 1>would bring some nurses there, they would draw some blood,

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 1>they measure your waistline, all that kind of stuff. They

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>took like five different numbers, checker blood pressure, checker blood pressure.

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 1>They want to make sure that you are meeting some

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>sort of requirements. And if you do that, if you

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>agree you don't, you didn't have to. You could continue

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 1>to pay full freight for health insurance. But if you

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.919
<v Speaker 1>agreed to get your numbers measured and you were good

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:53.719
<v Speaker 1>on at least three out of five of those numbers,

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you got four hundred bucks back off of your premiums.

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>And so that was the kind of thing where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, I'm going to trade them knowing my blood

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:06.400
<v Speaker 1>pressure and waistline's eyes for foreigner bucks, no problem. And

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>so that those are the kind of things that more

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>and more insurance companies are participating in trying to make

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>sure that you're living healthy and that's gonna be good

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>for you. It's gonna save you money. But there might

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 1>even be additional incentives on top of it. Uh. And

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know. I like to see these sorts

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 1>of things. But you're right, Matt, there are some of

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>those privacy concerns intertwined in these programs too. But let's

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about something else. About a new report from

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>a firm called Global Data, which just made me think

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 1>of Global Gym from Dodgeball. The ben Stiller's Gym finds

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that of Americans are actively involved in selling and buying

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>used goods secondhand. So basically sites like eBay, Facebook, Marketplace,

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and offer up. They are booming right now. And that's understandable.

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Lots of folks are saying that inflation is a major

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>reason that they're opting to go to the shrout. Hey,

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>everything costs more, so I'm trying to buy more stuff

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>used and we hope that trend sticks around. We think

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>that's great. Yeah, technology has made buying and selling used

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>goods easier than it's ever been, and we think that

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's always a great time to be using those

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>sites to pay less for consumer goods and to sell

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>unwanted items, and Matt, it's also just me easier to

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>get more money for those goods. Think about going back

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>to garage sales. You could get pennies on the dollar because,

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>like you're the sphere, the amount of people you could

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 1>reach it was really people who were walking or driving

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>by who would see your stuff and maybe stop specific

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>beholding geographic audience exactly to look at your stuff. Whereas

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>now with these with these sites, you can reach a

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>whole lot more folks, folks who are willing to drive

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and pay top dollar for that item. And you have.

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which, Matt, there are less than four months

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>now left in the Sell your Stuff Challenge, So just

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>for stuff, I just need to get my sheet updated

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>because I haven't done, and I've been doing pretty good

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>to you, I got I gotta update my sheet as well.

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to see where I'm at. I think I'm

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe I'm just a little bit behind. But

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>for how the money listeners out there who are participating,

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>we all that at the beginning of this year selling

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>one item a week. I'm curious too, I'm so curious

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>to see the results, Matt, to see how many items

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>people actually sold and see maybe who made the most

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>money this year too. Yeah, and actually there's another story

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>about all of the different athletic gear that folks bought

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>during the pandemic. How it's been plumbing in value. So

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 1>not only can you use sites like eBay to sell

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that you no longer want, but as a consumer,

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>you can take advantage of the prices, the plumbering values

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>that that folks are having to sell their stuff for

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>because they're no longer worth what they paid for it.

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm search for a mountain bike because but the problem

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>is I'm freakishly tall, and nobody has the extra large frames.

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>So everybody's got those medium sized frames. Gets you the

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>medium sized frame, but then get you an extra long

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>ce post. Those are like the monster batas of bikes.

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>But what about new stuff, because it's actually it's hard

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to believe, but the Holidays, they're really around the corner.

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think there's a chance that we're gonna see

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot more Black Friday deals this year. A friend

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>of the show, Ben Carlson, he thinks, so we tend

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>to agree basic how it works for months on end

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>supply chain issues they were a serious problem. But now

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>there's been an over correction, right, Like imagine the pendulum

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>swinging and it was far off over to one side

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>where there wasn't enough supply, and now it's swung back

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>that bull whip effect and there are there's an abundance

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>of supply. Uh so change like Walmart and Target have

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>excess inventory. We've got too much stuff. Of course, these

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>different companies, they're gonna have to reduce prices in a

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>serious way in order to entice you to remove that inventory,

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>uh you know, from their warehouses. But keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to save the most money is by

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<v Speaker 1>not buying any of this stuff you know altogether. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>be enticed by the fort off, by the seventy percent

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<v Speaker 1>off sales that you know that you might see. Ask

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<v Speaker 1>yourself first, is there a way that I could just

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<v Speaker 1>do without this item completely? Without thinking that? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the smartest consumer out there because you are taking

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of the deals. Plus I can pay pay for

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<v Speaker 1>it in six installments over time through buy now, pay

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<v Speaker 1>later only only if you're giving that money away, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the deal of a lifetime. Probably not so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>although we are likely to see more deals, the best

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<v Speaker 1>deals are going to be buying used still on a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these sites for the most part. Um. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that you said to Matt, start budgeting now.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think most people aren't thinking about the holidays yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but it really is right around the corner, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can make the holidays a whole lot less financially painful

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<v Speaker 1>if you start thinking now and you start saving now.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe come up with an exact total of what you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to spend on gifts and start setting money

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<v Speaker 1>aside to every paycheck so that you have the cash

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<v Speaker 1>you need to pay for the presidents you want to

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<v Speaker 1>buy when it comes to when it comes Christmas time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, all right, Well, that's gonna do it, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>For this episode, we hope that you guys have a

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<v Speaker 1>great weekend, and we hope to see you back here

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday. Matt and I are going to publish a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation that we just had with Sarah Wilson. She's known

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<v Speaker 1>as budget Girl on YouTube and she's pretty rad, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking forward to releasing that episode on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, man, So that's gonna be for this one though.

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<v Speaker 1>Until next time, best Friends Out, Best Friends Out, m