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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Am Bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, September eighth, two thousan twenty, season sixteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number eighteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: I am live back here in the s WBC Mortgage

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Speaker 1: studios at the Star. My co host joining me, Nick Eatman,

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Speaker 1: he is here at the Star as well. We've got

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Speaker 1: Dave Hellman at his home, Amber Garcia at her home,

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Speaker 1: and we're bringing all this to you, guys, bringing all

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Speaker 1: this together. It is our first day of daily shows.

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Speaker 1: We'll be on every day at eleven thirty am on

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and all Dallas Cowboys platforms. And

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be back at his football season.

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Speaker 1: How's everybody doing today? Doing great? Derek? Throughout the Nick,

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Speaker 1: why don't you ever say anything what I say? How

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Is it just like you're just in

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Speaker 1: doing great, wonderful, I'm awesome, Derek, thank you. You guys

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Speaker 1: got it. I'm trying to figure out, go ahead, who's

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Speaker 1: out I see somebody on the field. I don't know

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Speaker 1: out who that is. So you're spying right now, you know,

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Speaker 1: on this Tuesday day off. Yeah, I'm not really supposed

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Speaker 1: an opportunity right now to see how Nick gets this information,

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Speaker 1: to be the guy that just prognosticates all the stuff

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that. I didn't know. What I saw

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Speaker 1: You guys saw Darren Thompson was starting over Haha, Clinton Dix,

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Speaker 1: here to the Break, because you'll get those kind of

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Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster. There were a lot of surprises. Well,

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Speaker 1: have to worry about him counting toward the roster limits.

429
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: So that's nice. So but then you can only this

430
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: part is still little confusing. I don't know if you

431
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: already mentioned it, but you can only promote a player

432
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: twice before they have to go through the whole waiver

433
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: or clear waiver process. You can only take a guy.

434
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: So if you want to expand your game day roster

435
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 1: to fifty five, you can only do that with a

436
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 1: player twice before he has to go given a better system,

437
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 1: So I believe so, but we probably need to double

438
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: check that. It's it's pretty convoluted. As as us started

439
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: looking through it, I was like, okay, I got tired

440
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: here now, But I mean, yeah, it's it's pretty convoluted.

441
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: But a lot of these rules are just really meant

442
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: more than anything else to give teams options with regards

443
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: to COVID, Like if you get an outbreak, you now

444
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: have a few more options to be able to get

445
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: a basically field a team on a sudden And what

446
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: I wonder about that is how many you're going to

447
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: travel to the game now? I mean, because before you

448
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: would never take a practice squad player to the game,

449
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: but now you might, and so it might you might

450
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: just take one per position. You know, if you have

451
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: a couple of wide receivers on the practice squad, maybe

452
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: you take one of those or one of your backs,

453
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: or you know, you know, one of your cornerbacks. And

454
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: so that's that's what I kind of wonder. What's especially,

455
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, on these road games, you have a noon

456
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: kickoff start. I don't I don't know what the testing

457
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: is going to be like on Saturday Sunday. I'm not sure.

458
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: I've heard three or four different things of if they're

459
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: going to test on Sunday morning or Saturday night. I'm

460
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: not sure. If you think about it, though, Nick, I mean,

461
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: we all travel with the team during regular years. Think

462
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: about how many people that typically travel with the team

463
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: won't be doing it this year, whether it's members of

464
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,959
Speaker 1: our staff, whether it's sponsorship people, whether it's uh, you know,

465
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: employees for TV stations that often travel with the team. Like,

466
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: there should be a lot more space on that plane,

467
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: if it were, I would bring I'd bring all sixteen

468
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: of them. Why not? I mean, you don't have the room. Well,

469
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: and here's another thing that I mean it might be

470
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: better for talk about off there, but what's the plane

471
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: look like? I mean, what does the protocol now on

472
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: a plane? I mean do you have two rows between people?

473
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: One row? I mean it's hard to social distance on

474
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: a on an airplane, and so I kind of wonder,

475
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe the Hawaii football together. You're like

476
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: un locking in each other's face already, So what sitting

477
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: next to each other? What's the big deal after that?

478
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: You know that's true. I mean, we'll see, We'll see

479
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: how that goes. But let's talk about Brandon card and cout.

480
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Brandon Carr. I forgot, did you guess uthing? Nick?

481
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, Well, I was gonna kind of segue

482
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: into the whole the Brandon car thing because about does

483
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: this matter? Does a call up for a veteran the

484
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: same for a call I don't know if if it

485
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: really goes into place for a veteran, But let's remember

486
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: this you said, and Carr played pretty well at safety

487
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. He was not he

488
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: was not signed by any team all summer, all until

489
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: just now. Same for Joe Davian Clowney. You can you

490
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: can make that case. I get it, so, but I

491
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: just I wonder, how you know how great he really

492
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: has been. I'm not saying great or good. He's just

493
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: he's been a solid player. I think Brandon carr Is

494
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: value is goes greater than just how he plays on

495
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: the field. I think he's a really good leader, good

496
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: locker room guy. To me, he's the opposite of another

497
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: player for Baltimore. I think that they were trying to

498
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: bring in now that guy Orld Thomas is an outstanding player,

499
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: seven time Pro Bowler. Brandon Carr not as great of

500
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: a player. But I think what the Cowboys need right

501
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: now versatility, leadership, experience. I think Brandon Carr could help

502
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: and those when you think about it, are you really

503
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: needing Sorry, I was gonna say, are you really looking

504
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: or needing leader ship right now? Rather than someone that

505
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: can actually go in and play and make plays given

506
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: the circumstances, you know what, That's leadership in its own way.

507
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: This guy. I think this is an amazing stat and

508
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: I saw this on Twitter m that there are only

509
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: two players in the history of the NFL that have

510
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: started every game of their first twelve years of their career,

511
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: one of them being Peyton Manning, the other being Brandon car.

512
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: Peyton mann was expected to go in and play and start.

513
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: Brandon car fifth round pick Grand Valley State, to go

514
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: in and start every single game. That's probably gonna end

515
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: this week, he's not gonna start. I wouldn't think that

516
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: this week, but but I think it's what I'm saying

517
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: about leadership. It's not just pulling the guy to the

518
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: side and say do better. It's it's preparing, getting your body,

519
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: getting your mind ready to play, go in, learning the system,

520
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: learning different roles. That to me is a form of

521
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: leadership that other players can look to it. Yeah, and

522
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: I think the thing go ahead, No, no, it's gonna say.

523
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: I think that The interesting part there is that you

524
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: got a guy who is dependable first, and as Nick

525
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: was saying, he started all those games over those years

526
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: in a year like this when you got COVID and

527
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: that's your big concern, and you're putting him in the

528
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: role that they're putting in, which is, Hey, we literally

529
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: might get to a Sunday morning and a guy that's

530
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: been on our practice squad is going to need to

531
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: come up and play. Would you rather have him do

532
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: that or would you rather have some guy that hasn't

533
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: played for the last twelve years or hasn't had the

534
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: number of starts that he's had for the last twelve years.

535
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: And by the way, he can do it at two

536
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: different positions. He can come in and play at cornerback,

537
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: he can come in and play at safety, he can

538
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: come in and give you relief at both. So I

539
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: think Brandon Carr is the perfect kind of player. I'm

540
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: actually shocked that he was still out on the street,

541
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: and what it makes me think is maybe this was

542
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: also part of his doing. He lives here in the

543
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: Dallas area, so this may be a situation where he

544
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: may have had some other teams that expressed some interest

545
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: and he may have said, look, I kind of don't

546
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: want to necessarily go up to Cleveland. And I'm not

547
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: saying Cleveland was one of them, but he may be like,

548
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: I live in Dallas, this is an easy fit for me.

549
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: My family's already here. We just will be in Dallas

550
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: at our home, and I'll be on the practice squad.

551
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: I'll play when I need to play, and I can

552
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: jump in. We all know he's been playing for twelve years,

553
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: like we all know he is on the back end

554
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: of his career. But in a season like this, I

555
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: think his dependability and his versatility are the absolute best

556
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: factors you can have for a guy like him that

557
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: you would bring in to play in that role. David

558
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: Jeff some you were gonna say. I mean, I think

559
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: you basically hit on all the pertinent points. I just

560
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: and I can't speak for the coaching staff, but I

561
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to give people the impression I

562
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: don't think Brandon Carr is here to step in and

563
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: be a starter at any position in the near future.

564
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: I think, you know, it sounds like Xavier Woods is

565
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: going to be ready to go for Sunday. That's what

566
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said this morning. I think they're going to

567
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: give darry and Thompson a shot to be the other guy,

568
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: at least for the time being. And I hate to

569
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: bring this up because it wasn't good, but it reminds

570
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: me a lot of when they went into the season

571
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: in seventeen or eighteen excuse me, without a true lead

572
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: receiver and it didn't work and they fixed it. And

573
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of my thought is if this is an

574
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: unmitigated disaster after three or four weeks, then maybe they revisit.

575
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: But for the time being, I think dari and Thompson's

576
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: the guy. Brandon Carr can provide valuable depth at a

577
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: number of positions. I think you're absolutely right Derek. He

578
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: lives like two exits up the interstate away from the facility.

579
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: He's around the Star all the time in the offseason anyway.

580
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: He obviously still knows a number of guys on the roster.

581
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: I just think this was a good fit. And another

582
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: thing that I don't think you can underestimate is they

583
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: got two rookie cornerbacks who are in need of mentorship

584
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: and leadership. And who better to do that than Brandon Carr.

585
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: So I don't know if he's going to be a

586
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: regular part of the lineup, but I think it's very

587
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: very good that he's around. Yeah, I think you hit

588
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: on an interesting thing there, Dave. If the wills fall

589
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: off the sting from the standpoint of the safety position,

590
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: then if Earl's still sitting there, then maybe that becomes

591
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: an issue. Right that may become an option for the Cowboys.

592
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: And right now, Leui Cowboys look at it and say,

593
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: we like the young guys we got. We like where

594
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods and Darian Thompson are in their career. They're

595
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: the kind of guys they're not really you don't call them,

596
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, inexperienced guys. They have some experience. We think

597
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,239
Speaker 1: they're at the point where they're gonna now take that

598
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: next step, so we'll see what happens. And if it

599
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: doesn't work, then you got that little pocket in your back.

600
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: You got that little card in your back pocket that

601
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: you can maybe pull out. Think about think about this. Sorry, Nick,

602
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't mean to cut you off, but just think

603
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: about this for a second. They open, Yeah, I don't

604
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't think Jared Goff is amazing, but they opened

605
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: with the Rams, which was like the best offense in

606
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: the league two years ago. Then they got Matt Ryan

607
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: and Julio, then they got Russ and then they got

608
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: Odell and Jarvis Landry and all this stuff up on

609
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: their secondary is going to be tested, and if it sucks,

610
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to revisit that conversation. So for all

611
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: of you Earl Truthers, I don't think you need to,

612
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: you know, put a pin in that and just see

613
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: where we are in a month. Well, remember this about

614
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: about Earl Thomas and any veteran like that. Most of

615
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: the time this doesn't really factor in. But in a

616
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: situation like this where nobody's really doubting if Earl Thomas

617
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: can play, they're doubting whether or not he can get

618
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: along with this team in the locker room, and he's

619
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: going to be a distraction. Is he gonna does he does?

620
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: He love football to the point where he's gonna make it,

621
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, this top priority and all that. If he's not,

622
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: then they're gonna you know, people say that all the time.

623
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, get rid of him. It's hard

624
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: to do that in week one. You know, if he's

625
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: on the roster in week one, the way the rules are,

626
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: if he's on the roster on this day right now,

627
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: then his roster, his FOT is guaranteed next week. Though

628
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: week two. If he's on the roster, he's here four

629
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: or five weeks, it doesn't work out, you don't owe

630
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: him all of those things that you might. So that

631
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: might actually play a factor into this, specifically with Earl Thomas,

632
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: because teams aren't sure whether or not it's gonna work

633
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: out or not. We're gonna chake our final break when

634
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: we come back. We're gonna talk a little about Randy Gregory,

635
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: a guy that has been on this team I guess

636
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: as a as a player that was on the commissioner's

637
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: exemption list, but now he has been restored to the

638
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: team and can start practicing at some point the next month.

639
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: I think it is. We'll talk a little bit more

640
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: about that, gets some idea of what the parameters are

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Speaker 1: a little time with you each day. We've talked about

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Speaker 1: the roster, and one addition to the roster that was

685
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Speaker 1: interesting and I think a good thing for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: is the reinstatement or conditional reinstatement of Randy Gregory. Dave,

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Speaker 1: why don't you tell me a little bit about what

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Speaker 1: this means as far as when he can return to

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Speaker 1: the team and maybe when he can start practicing and

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00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: maybe when fans can expect to see him on the field. Well,

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00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: he's with the team now. I actually I thought it

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Speaker 1: was surprising. I mean, he was Nick, correct me if

693
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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. He was at the facility yesterday, was he not? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw him yesterday and we can talk about that

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00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: here in a second. But Dave, go ahead with well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I found it surprising, Like Mike McCarthy and Mike

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Speaker 1: Nolan said they haven't really had a chance to talk

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Speaker 1: to him, which I thought it was interesting because he

699
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: was in the building yesterday. But anyway, so he's allowed

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Speaker 1: back with the team. They have a roster exhimption, he

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00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: doesn't count toward the fifty three. The NFL is putting

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00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: him through a mandatory acclamation period, which part of me like,

703
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, this just seems like a further suspension,

704
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: which is bs. But at the same time, all of

705
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: these other players, you know, they reported in late July

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Speaker 1: and didn't you know, they had a month basically, and

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00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: Randy's been away from football even longer than they have,

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00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: so it makes sense. So he can start practicing on

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Speaker 1: October fifth, which is the day after the Week four

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00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: game against Cleveland, and he can play on October twenty

711
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: fifth against Washington, So I think that's the seventh game

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Speaker 1: of the season, so they won't have him for six weeks,

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Speaker 1: but given how little football he's played over the last

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Speaker 1: two years, he's probably gonna need that time. Anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to clarify, he wasn't in the building when I saw him,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not sure that that. I mean, he was

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Speaker 1: just outside the building. And so again he still could

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Speaker 1: have talked to people. Um then I'm not I'm not

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00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: sure if he did or did it or whatever. I

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00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: saw him very briefly, you know, reminded me it doesn't

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00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: happen to me a whole lot that the guy stands

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Speaker 1: up and he just realized how tall he is. He is.

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Speaker 1: He is the perfect guy for a three or four

724
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: defense like this. If he's ready to play, he would be.

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00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: He's a great fit for this scheme because he's not

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00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: not that big. He's a little you know, he's slender,

727
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: but he's but he's he could bend, he can move,

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Speaker 1: he can do those things. You know that this would

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00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: be a good scheme for for him. But scheme and

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00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: all that stuff is kind of down the road. Get

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Speaker 1: him back in here, get him, you know, testing again,

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00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: get him play and practicing all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think he's excited about playing football. He

734
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: showed more excitement than I've ever seen out of him

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00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: just to be back and close. So hopefully this is

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Speaker 1: a good It was interesting, Nick, you told me about

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Speaker 1: your gridable encounter with him, and it was it was

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Speaker 1: interesting because virtually didn't recognize him but it seemed like

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Speaker 1: from the way you were talking about it, he was

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00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: very excited to be back with the Cowboys and excited

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Speaker 1: to be able to start kind of getting back in

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Speaker 1: there and getting some work done, which I guess I

743
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: should be fair, Nick, that's a really good point. It Actually,

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00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: now that I think about it, it makes a lot

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00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: more sense that Mike McCarthy and Mike Nolan didn't talk

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00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: to him because he's got to go through all the

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00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: COVID protocols. He probably was only there to get tested

748
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: and then he probably left again, if I had to guess,

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Speaker 1: So he's not able to really, you know, he's not

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Speaker 1: able to fully be part of it until he goes

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00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: through those protocols when I'm guessing that started. Yes, So, Amber,

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Speaker 1: what are your expectations for Randy Gregor at this point

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Speaker 1: based upon the fact that he's been out of the

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00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: league for as long as he has, the fact that

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00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: if you factor in what he was before he left,

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Speaker 1: where do you kind of grade him at this point?

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00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: What do you expect from him at this point? What

758
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: do you expect from him at this point? I think

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00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: it's the same expectations we had a few years ago

760
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: when when he was back, and then we were trying

761
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: to figure out how he was going to do once

762
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: he got to the field. And to me, he's one

763
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: of those guys that when people talk about rare talent,

764
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: he has that rare talent that I don't know how

765
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: you say it in English in Nate, that you're just

766
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: kind of born with it. He's one of those guys

767
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: that I see that he's able to just go out

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00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: there and perform at a high level. Obviously he needs

769
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: to go through that whole period, but one of this,

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00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: for example, you talk about Alden Smith, that was a

771
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: guy that me, I didn't I didn't have much hope.

772
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, yeah, cool, Let's see how he does

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Speaker 1: when he gets in here. And he completely impressed me

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00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: the time that he was during this training camp, what

775
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: he was able to do, how he looked out there,

776
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: how he fit in with the rest of the group.

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Speaker 1: So I think that Randy would would just his positivity

778
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: right now, and even the thing that he wrote on Twitter,

779
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: the way he was speaking, and that whole outlook of

780
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: being just kind of on the right path, that's gonna

781
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: help him a lot, not just on the off field things,

782
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: but also on the field, it's gonna hopefully be able

783
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: to translate. So I think he'll he'll do well. I

784
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: just I hope that he's able to get opportunities and

785
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: just mixed in there. The good thing is that I

786
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: think that the Cowboys have a group, a good group

787
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: of guys that they can rotate and just get everyone

788
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: in there to kind of bring their own It's interesting

789
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: that you mentioned that you mentioned Alden Smith because he

790
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: actually has been out of football longer than Randy Gregor

791
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: was out of football, and quite frankly, I think the

792
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: flip side to that is he was and I'm not

793
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything that I don't think most people

794
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: agree with. He was a better player when he left

795
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: the game of football than Randy Gregor has been in

796
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: his career. So yeah, there's there's kind of good and

797
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: bad on both sides of that coin of Yeah, you

798
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: could see a guy returned it hasn't played football in

799
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: a while, and all of a sudden he's showing these

800
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: things that you don't necessarily expect to see from somebody

801
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: has been out of football. But Alta Smith was a

802
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 1: really phenomenal player when he left. When he was kicked

803
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: out of the league. He was a really, really great player,

804
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: and we're seeing some of the shades of that right now.

805
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Speaker 1: Coming back, Dave, tell us what you think as far

806
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Speaker 1: as your expectations for Randy Gregor at this point. I mean,

807
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say expectation. I hope that he's

808
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: you know, healthy and happy and has conquered these demons

809
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: of his for the last time. And I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know that's a that's a daily battle, but I

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Speaker 1: hope it he can do it and deal with that

812
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Speaker 1: while he has a productive NFL career. I mean, as

813
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: far as football, you know, Alden Smith and Everson Griffin

814
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: kind of takes the pressure off of Randy Gregory to

815
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Speaker 1: contribute anything right away. I mean, you got two guys

816
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: who can handle those positions. So I mean, if he

817
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: can mix in and get snaps. He had six sacks

818
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: when he was back here in eighteen. I mean, he

819
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: showed that he could do it even after time away.

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00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: So if he wants to chip in and do that,

821
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: that would be great. But I don't I don't want

822
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: to say I have super big expectations beyond just being

823
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: a happy and productive member. What are your expectations your

824
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Speaker 1: expectations well, I don't know if this was has been said,

825
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: but you know, expectations is that he will come in

826
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: and and you know, he can provide some depth there.

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00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: You got to remember, we keep saying things like, well,

828
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: let's see if he can continue to you know, stay

829
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: on course and all that. The NFL rules are different

830
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: now than they were before when he was playing there,

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Speaker 1: you know, and so I hate to say it, but

832
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: some of the setbacks that he had and those obstacles,

833
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure are the same right now. So you

834
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: hope that that he's clear and back and healthy and

835
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: ready to go. But I know, I'm kind of danced

836
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Speaker 1: around the subject. But the rules are different than they

837
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: were before, so maybe it will be easier for him

838
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: and other players that have dealt with those issues to

839
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: stay in the league and get the help that they

840
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: need and actually you know, be on the field everything.

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00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: I think the one thing, one thing I think we

842
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: all agree on is that we're happy to see Randy back.

843
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: We're happy to see him get this next opportunity and hopefully, hopefully,

844
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: as Dave said, he's in a position where he could

845
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: take full advantage of them and pass some of those

846
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: demons or at least some of those demons that would

847
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: preclude him from being in the league in order for

848
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: him to move forward his career. Nick, They're sitting on

849
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: their couch and they're like, Oh, this guy, he doesn't carry,

850
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: doesn't love football, whatever, how he's making dumb decisions. Yeah,

851
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: he's made some dumb decisions. If you talk to him

852
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: for two minutes, you would be blown away with his demeanor,

853
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: his character, his intelligence, just everything about him is not

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Speaker 1: a guy that is making bad decisions. I mean, so

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Speaker 1: he's easy to root for. And I think I speak

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Speaker 1: for everybody when when they they've talked to him. He's

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Speaker 1: a guy that you want to root for. You hope

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Speaker 1: maybe you know this is this is the time, and

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Speaker 1: you hope. And there's a reason Jerry Jones has not

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Speaker 1: turned his back on him. He continues to do that

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Speaker 1: what Jerry is but but he sees something here because

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Speaker 1: Randy's is the type of guy that you you just

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Speaker 1: want to root for. Which, oh, sorry, Dared, but I

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Speaker 1: mean no, that was that was so well said Nick.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing, you know, we say this all

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Speaker 1: the time. We said it. We said it a few

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Speaker 1: years ago when Zeke was going through his off field

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Speaker 1: problems is obvious. Like line one is always going to

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Speaker 1: be how good at football you are? Like, if Randy

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Speaker 1: Gregory didn't have rare talent, this saga probably wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: drawn out as long as it did. But I always

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Speaker 1: tell people, like, listen to the people that are and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to just be us. Obviously we're unique

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Speaker 1: because we're in the building. But listen to literally everybody

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Speaker 1: around the Cowboys. Find me a person who has dealt

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Speaker 1: with Randy Gregory who doesn't have glowing things to say

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Speaker 1: about him, who isn't rooting for him, And I think

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Speaker 1: I think that's important absolutely because if if you know,

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Speaker 1: if if we thought he would as a jerk or

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Speaker 1: a lost cause or a bad person, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you would see such uniform support for him from across

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Speaker 1: you know, the media and the people that work for

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Speaker 1: the team. That's an interesting point because I was going

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Speaker 1: to say the same thing. I think you look at

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Speaker 1: all the media guys that cover him. I've heard literally

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Speaker 1: none of them say that they're not rooting for him,

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Speaker 1: and also talk about it from the standpoint that this

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Speaker 1: off the field. This is a guy that has some

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Speaker 1: significant issues that he's having to deal with, and so

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Speaker 1: I think from that standpoint, there is a really different perspective.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes from the standpoint to people that cover

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Speaker 1: him and know him versus the people who are kind

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Speaker 1: of just out in the regular part of society that

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Speaker 1: maybe just onlookers that have a different opinion of him.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys, join us. We're going to be back.

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Speaker 1: Nick Jeff's other quick I just want to say, he's

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Speaker 1: a really good football player. He needs to get better

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Speaker 1: in his decision making on the field as well. If

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Speaker 1: there is one thing about him, he had a lot

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Speaker 1: of penalties, untimely things like that. So discipline was an

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Speaker 1: issue for him on and off the field. Let's see

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Speaker 1: if he's if he's corrected that in both are all right.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys, join us. We're gonna be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I did let everybody know on Twitter today. Starting tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: we're going to have a special segment we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: every Wednesday and Thursday where we have We'll be joined

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Speaker 1: by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. He is a former

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Speaker 1: player and a former scout he'll come on and give

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Speaker 1: us some insights on our upcoming opponents. So tomorrow he

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Speaker 1: will talk about the Rams offense. He'll take over Dave. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're giving Dave a break because they've got too much

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Speaker 1: on his plate. So Nick told me. Nick told me,

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Speaker 1: I better get some stuff off a day's place so

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Speaker 1: he can write. That's what he's hired to do. So well,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're doing, and we're gonna get We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get Bucky in here to talk about the Rams offense tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Rams defense on Thursday. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you join us. We appreciate you guys joining us today

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Speaker 1: for Nick Eatman, Dave Hillman, Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton.

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