Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with
Speaker 1: me your Girl, Danielle Moody recording from the Bunker, Folks,
Speaker 1: I want to start off today with being a bit
Speaker 1: vulnerable with all of you. You know, I'm a person
Speaker 1: that has spent their career working in democratic politics and
Speaker 1: democratic policy advancing the equity of marginalized communities, particularly the
Speaker 1: LGBTQ community, particularly the Black community, but by virtue of that,
Speaker 1: all other intersectional spaces. And when I criticize this administration,
Speaker 1: when I criticize the Democratic Party, what it seems to
Speaker 1: be getting lost with the trolls on social media who
Speaker 1: lack the ability to understand nuance and lack the ability
Speaker 1: to understand the grief that people feel in this moment
Speaker 1: is that it comes from a place of deep sadness.
Speaker 1: My anger and rage, as I've come to understand, it
Speaker 1: isn't just anger and rage. Rage comes from a place
Speaker 1: of deep emotion. And I went to Washington, DC, worked
Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill, worked in the classroom, did policy work,
Speaker 1: advocated for same sex marriage, and did all of these
Speaker 1: things because I believed in the possibility of this country.
Speaker 1: What does it mean to believe in possibility? It believes
Speaker 1: that we don't just throw people away. We don't just
Speaker 1: throw whole fucking communities away. We don't toss up our
Speaker 1: hands and say, what do you want me to do?
Speaker 1: When we're in power, it means that you utilize every
Speaker 1: tool in your fucking toolbox. It means that you work
Speaker 1: for the betterment, and that when you see things that
Speaker 1: are so tragically wrong that you call them out not
Speaker 1: just as a call out to wag fingers, but as
Speaker 1: a call out to open up people's eyes to recognize
Speaker 1: the power that they have to make this country better.
Speaker 1: But without eyes being opened, without people being able to
Speaker 1: turn their rage right into the possibility into working towards progress,
Speaker 1: and not just being ostriches and burying our heads in
Speaker 1: the sand or laying down our accouch and saying that
Speaker 1: we're too exhausted to move, Which is okay, It is
Speaker 1: okay to break down, because the moment is calling for
Speaker 1: the heightened emotions that we are all experiencing that we can't.
Speaker 1: But the very idea that to be critiquing this administration
Speaker 1: and calling out their apathy and their inaction is somehow
Speaker 1: me advocating for people not to show up at the
Speaker 1: polls is somehow me advocating that I don't believe in
Speaker 1: this country just goes to show me how little people
Speaker 1: fucking know in general. Right, But what is disheartening is
Speaker 1: how much you can work and dedicate and advocate and
Speaker 1: how in small moments people cease to silence you. And
Speaker 1: this is what I know to be true about me.
Speaker 1: Is in the coming week or so, I'm taking a
Speaker 1: break from Twitter in particular because I think that much
Speaker 1: as many guests have come on the show and said,
Speaker 1: and many people I know have experienced after they've experienced
Speaker 1: a considerable amount of backlash that results in people calling
Speaker 1: for your rape or your death or for you to
Speaker 1: be silenced, is that clearly you've hit a fucking nerve.
Speaker 1: And I'm okay with that. But what I'm not okay
Speaker 1: with is putting my own emotional health and mental health
Speaker 1: and well being up for target practice to fucking trolls.
Speaker 1: But what I realize is that the more that other
Speaker 1: people are listening to you, the more that other people
Speaker 1: are connecting with your message, the scarier the dissenters become.
Speaker 1: And so what I want to offer to folks is
Speaker 1: that we will all in our own platforms in our
Speaker 1: own spaces receive a lot of pushback. We'll receive a
Speaker 1: lot of pushback because that's what happens when you speak
Speaker 1: the truth. That's what happens when you challenge the status
Speaker 1: quo and you challenge norms. So I'm not just going
Speaker 1: to tell people, oh, just get out the vote and
Speaker 1: just vote more is if that is going to solve
Speaker 1: our problems. It's not voting sure as fuck is not
Speaker 1: going to solve our problems. But I do say that
Speaker 1: I understand now for those that have reasoning behind not
Speaker 1: showing up at the polls why they don't, But that
Speaker 1: to me is just casting a ballot for Republicans because
Speaker 1: they're sixty five and older crowd always votes. They never
Speaker 1: miss a fucking election, not from the Schoolhouse to the
Speaker 1: State House and to the White House. They don't miss one.
Speaker 1: So what I will say is that I need for
Speaker 1: this administration to offer up something, even it is to
Speaker 1: lay out in no uncertain terms, where the fucking blame
Speaker 1: and rage that we are feeling should be pointed. Right,
Speaker 1: our economy is struggling. Why is that because of decisions
Speaker 1: that Republicans and Donald Trump made, So say that right,
Speaker 1: women and people with uterus are angry because they've lost
Speaker 1: bodily autonomy and now they are in fear for their
Speaker 1: lives and the fear for the lives of their family right,
Speaker 1: So say that, and say who was able to steal
Speaker 1: to Supreme Court seats and put three Republicans on the
Speaker 1: bench that would have us in this moment, Tell the
Speaker 1: fucking truth. That's all that I am advocating for is
Speaker 1: for this administration to turn on their microphone, to turn
Speaker 1: on their bully pulpit, and instead of continuing to make
Speaker 1: fucking deals with Mitch McConnell and this rabid, fucking radicalized cult,
Speaker 1: to engage the people and tell them the truth. You
Speaker 1: cannot just tell people to vote and not tell them
Speaker 1: who to vote for. You cannot just say, oh, you
Speaker 1: must choose me because the other guy is bad. You
Speaker 1: need to say, in no uncertain terms, why the other
Speaker 1: guy is bad, Why they are not only bad, but
Speaker 1: they are a danger to democracy, That they are a
Speaker 1: danger to your ability to put food on the table,
Speaker 1: that they are danger to your safety. But if you
Speaker 1: are not while you have this platform called the White House,
Speaker 1: using every opportunity to tell the American people the fucking
Speaker 1: truth about who they are dealing with, and that we
Speaker 1: are set up in two camps right now. And it
Speaker 1: isn't Democrat and Republican, right, it is patriot and it
Speaker 1: is traitor. That is what somebody had sent to me
Speaker 1: that apparently Ulysses S. Grant had said at one time,
Speaker 1: that is the world that we are living in. So
Speaker 1: tell the fucking truth. Don't tell me that I have
Speaker 1: friends from across the aisle, because those motherfuckers try to
Speaker 1: build a gallows and kill there are other friends from
Speaker 1: across the aisle that Donald Trump said, oh, they're not
Speaker 1: here to harm me at the Stop to Steel rally
Speaker 1: when he knew that he was sending people that were
Speaker 1: hyped up on racial animus and racism and misogyny and
Speaker 1: toxic masculinity armed and directing them towards the Capitol building.
Speaker 1: So tell the truth. Don't think that by doing so, oh,
Speaker 1: somehow you're impeding on an investigation that we don't even
Speaker 1: really know is happening outside of what is happening in Georgia.
Speaker 1: Thank god for a G. Willis, who seems to be
Speaker 1: the only person working right now. So what I say
Speaker 1: when I am angry, when I am filled with rage,
Speaker 1: which is on a daily so much so that it
Speaker 1: is exhausting, so much so that I am waking up
Speaker 1: in tears and going to bed in tears, because if
Speaker 1: I have to hear about one more shooting of a
Speaker 1: black person, if I have to hear about one more
Speaker 1: story of a young girl who was raped and is
Speaker 1: now have to figure out where they're going to get
Speaker 1: an abortion, if I have to hear one more of
Speaker 1: these things, I'm going to lose my fucking mind, because
Speaker 1: they're all happening, and they're all happening at the same
Speaker 1: goddamn time, and this administration still thinks that we are
Speaker 1: in this twentieth century rational place when we are clearly
Speaker 1: not so. Coming up today is my monthly conversation that
Speaker 1: I have with our friend Reverend Mark Thompson, host of
Speaker 1: Make It Plain, to talk about as he has spent
Speaker 1: his life literally in the civil rights movement, marching on
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Speaker 1: what he thinks this moment is calling for, and how
Speaker 1: this moment is different than what was experienced in the
Speaker 1: fifties and sixties and seventies and eighties in this country
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Speaker 1: YouTube and Twitch. Folks, I want to welcome our friend back,
Speaker 1: host of Make It Plain, our friend, Reverend Mark Thompson,
Speaker 1: on our monthly conversation with regard to the upcoming midterms,
Speaker 1: the current cultural climate in this nation, which is to
Speaker 1: use the word fraught, Mark would be at the understatement
Speaker 1: of the year. You have been back and forth to Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. Protesting with regard to a portion protesting with
Speaker 1: regard to voting rights. Mark, I just want to start
Speaker 1: off with the you know, with asking you this. You
Speaker 1: have been doing this a long time. You have been
Speaker 1: on the front lines literally marching for your entire professional career.
Speaker 1: How do you see, if you see it at all,
Speaker 1: this time different than the decades before. Wow, We're first
Speaker 1: of all, always good to be with you and the
Speaker 1: Woka family. It's funny. I was just talking to someone
Speaker 1: about this earlier today. In the past, we had some
Speaker 1: insurmountable victories as well. I mean I came along at
Speaker 1: a time when we forced Ronald Reagan to sign the
Speaker 1: King Holliday Bill, where we stopped, when we stopped the
Speaker 1: nomination of Robert Bourke, when we forced the Congress past
Speaker 1: sanctions on South Africa and then forced the Congress to
Speaker 1: override Reagan's veto. That's a power that we had as
Speaker 1: a movement, as an African American movement, as a civil
Speaker 1: rights movement, as a human rights movement, as a progressive
Speaker 1: or liberal movement. I think the difference now is is
Speaker 1: that finally America and we all are faced with the
Speaker 1: reality that the government is practically no longer functional at all.
Speaker 1: The filibuster has nullified both Houses of Congress, the politicization
Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court and its appointments. The Supreme Court
Speaker 1: has become an absolutely partisan body. And the executive branch,
Speaker 1: I think people are learning for the first time, really
Speaker 1: without the legislative branch has very little power. There's only
Speaker 1: so much a president can do with executive orders. So
Speaker 1: if the president can do much, if Congress has been nullified,
Speaker 1: if the Supreme Court is now become a hyperpartisan, right
Speaker 1: wing white supremacist institution, going back to the days of plessing.
Speaker 1: If not earlier, then what can be done. There's nothing
Speaker 1: that can be done unless we replace everyone in office.
Speaker 1: But it's hard to do that without motivation. And I
Speaker 1: think that the onus has fallen upon Democrats to give
Speaker 1: us some of the nation. They just haven't been very
Speaker 1: good at it and have not shown a lot of
Speaker 1: interest in doing it. I think there's a level of
Speaker 1: intellectualism there. Well. The Democratic Party, franklies run by consultants,
Speaker 1: and the consultant class is intellectual, and so they're thinking
Speaker 1: is everybody knows and understands what they know that if
Speaker 1: people don't get out and vote, it's going to get worse.
Speaker 1: But people like you and me, Danielle, people who listen
Speaker 1: to our shows are not like everyone else. You know,
Speaker 1: we have a keen interest in this. We follow it.
Speaker 1: Most people don't. Most people are living their lives trying
Speaker 1: to make it and they don't know. And all they
Speaker 1: see is high gas prices, and for black people, all
Speaker 1: they see is a sister in jail and Russian nothing
Speaker 1: big done about it. So what does that look like?
Speaker 1: That looks like nineteen eighty high gas prices, people in jail,
Speaker 1: hostages in Iran and you've I've learned from that. Jimmy
Speaker 1: Carter couldn't turn that around. They might have been a
Speaker 1: way to do it, but was every avenue exhausted to
Speaker 1: prevent it? Probably not. And I think that's part of
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party culture, just kind of you know, well
Speaker 1: hoped and you know, you know, kind of use I
Speaker 1: guess the rhythm method, thinking that that's kind of motive
Speaker 1: they voted rather than actually organizing more. And you know,
Speaker 1: consultants will say to Biden, well, you don't want to
Speaker 1: look too radical and you don't want to offend independence.
Speaker 1: But I think there's a way to have both. People
Speaker 1: want to see some strength, psyche something. And you know,
Speaker 1: I even had people who would never criticize the Democratic president,
Speaker 1: never criticized your baby, come and say, man, why don't
Speaker 1: he say something? Why don't he just you know, and
Speaker 1: it's it's not happening, unfortunate. And those who would think
Speaker 1: that that type of criticism is anti party or discouraging
Speaker 1: people from voting, No, Because I'm telling you something else too.
Speaker 1: NFL just cut a deal with ice Cube. Ice Cube
Speaker 1: is being paid to suppress voters. We aren't supressed voters.
Speaker 1: There's an active movement to suppress voters. Us saying, Biden,
Speaker 1: speak up more, exhaust everything at your disposal is not
Speaker 1: voting suppression. That's to help get the vote out. It's
Speaker 1: one of the things I'll say, and I think I've
Speaker 1: said this to you before and to others, even a
Speaker 1: show of strength, even if he didn't go through with it,
Speaker 1: to say that he's gonna do what was done during
Speaker 1: reconstruction and what was done during but eisenhow did Little Rock,
Speaker 1: Arkansas did de serregate schools. He's going to send federal
Speaker 1: troops into the South to make sure everybody has the
Speaker 1: right to vote exercise. If co Voting Rights Act isn't gone,
Speaker 1: there's still things that can be enforceable, right because we
Speaker 1: are in in a seditious moment, We're in an insurrectionist moment,
Speaker 1: so why not do that? Just like you know, there's
Speaker 1: been the consideration, as there should be as to whether
Speaker 1: or not military basis can provide reproductive and abortion services
Speaker 1: to women beyond what the Supreme Court has done. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think everything has to be on the table. Even
Speaker 1: for that to be discussed out loud by the White
Speaker 1: House would at least I think give people some reason. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: you know they're still fighting. We can fight too, there's
Speaker 1: still something to fight for. We haven't all because I
Speaker 1: otherwise I think people are going to be demoralized. I mean,
Speaker 1: and I think to that point that people are all
Speaker 1: ready demoralized. I think that you know, what I have
Speaker 1: been advocating for and getting a tremendous amount of pushback in,
Speaker 1: is this stand up and say something, Say something other
Speaker 1: than we find out that Joe Biden is still fucking
Speaker 1: cutting deals with Mitch McConnell right to put in another
Speaker 1: forced birth federal judge in Kentucky, and you're hearing rumors
Speaker 1: about that happening. How does this president still negotiate with
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, who is in the minority, who has shown
Speaker 1: himself to be a bad faith actor. When you hear
Speaker 1: when the people who aren't paying attention all the time,
Speaker 1: and so they have two clips, mark, they have the
Speaker 1: clip of the Supreme Court saying women and people with
Speaker 1: uter says you no longer have bodily autonomy. Boom, that's
Speaker 1: one clip. Then they got another clip where you hear
Speaker 1: that the President of the United States is negotiating with
Speaker 1: the man that stole two Supreme Court seats. Mitch McConnell
Speaker 1: didn't ask to negotiate with a damned person during the
Speaker 1: Obama administration. As a matter of fact, he said, I'm
Speaker 1: going to make you a one term president and then
Speaker 1: set it again to Joe Biden. Joe Biden's response to
Speaker 1: that is negotiation and saying that Mitch McConnell is a
Speaker 1: rational Republican. So if I'm a person that is not
Speaker 1: readily paying attention every day because I'm struggling to put
Speaker 1: gas in my tank and food on my table and
Speaker 1: medicine in my medicine chest, then how is it that
Speaker 1: this Democratic Party thinks that they are going to win? Right?
Speaker 1: They keep saying, well, we're going to concentrate on kitchen
Speaker 1: table issues, and I said, well, I said this the
Speaker 1: other day on MSNBC. There is no other kitchen table
Speaker 1: issue than the strength of our democracy and then the
Speaker 1: ability to actually have set people around the kitchen table,
Speaker 1: because the kitchen table is about economy. And if people
Speaker 1: are being forced out of the workplace because they're being
Speaker 1: forced to birth children that they cannot afford and do
Speaker 1: not want, how is that not a kitchen table issue.
Speaker 1: How is not something that you are willing to stand
Speaker 1: up forcefully, even if it's in words only. But to
Speaker 1: your point, exhaust every avenue. Yeah, those those are valid points.
Speaker 1: And again, you know, I think that the structure in
Speaker 1: the White House is may very well be be failing
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Here's an opportunity that I think that they're missing.
Speaker 1: Though the party in power power, the party in power
Speaker 1: always loses in the midterms. The opportunity that I think
Speaker 1: the consultant class which is running the White House is
Speaker 1: missing is that Democrats aren't the party in power. Even
Speaker 1: though Democrats hold the White House and both houses, we're
Speaker 1: the ones taking all the hits. The power is coming
Speaker 1: from Republicans controlling the filibuster, with the help of Mansion
Speaker 1: in cinema, and from the Supreme Court. So if people
Speaker 1: are more motivated in the mid terms because they're in
Speaker 1: the opposition, then you know, it may it may cause
Speaker 1: some people to put their pride aside. But maybe Democrats
Speaker 1: need to make it clear in the message. You know,
Speaker 1: we even though we got the White House, we are
Speaker 1: the party still in opposition. We're the opposition party because
Speaker 1: everything is happening over and above us. What Supreme Court
Speaker 1: did that last week was devastating. They just they flurried
Speaker 1: on the public miranda, state gun laws, the EPA. No,
Speaker 1: you're not in power. We are not in power, and
Speaker 1: so we should act like that rather than act as if, well,
Speaker 1: because Joe Biden's a president, we're in power, we might
Speaker 1: lose some of the midterms. That's not right being in power.
Speaker 1: It's not just what's on paper, but what's real. And
Speaker 1: some of those conversations I've been having on my show
Speaker 1: really ought to go to that mobilizing people understand. You know, folks,
Speaker 1: we I know what this looks like, but it really
Speaker 1: ain't what it seems to be. And how do you expect?
Speaker 1: But I think that that is such that is such
Speaker 1: a valid point mark and one that I will say
Speaker 1: that I have not been thinking about because they may
Speaker 1: have quote unquote Democrats may have control of these chambers,
Speaker 1: but they actually do not have the power. But if
Speaker 1: by perception, we have always been told, right, we've always
Speaker 1: been told that you need to vote because the president
Speaker 1: is the leader of the free world, that the president
Speaker 1: is the one that can do this, that and the
Speaker 1: other thing. And then we're remembering what Donald Trump was
Speaker 1: able to do right, and we say, well, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: why did he have such outsized power in that same position?
Speaker 1: And yet we have a democratic president now that's saying, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't have any power. Don't remember Donald Trump ever
Speaker 1: saying that. I don't remember when Mitch McConnell, now being
Speaker 1: in the minority, has said that. So how do we
Speaker 1: message that to people to understand the difference between power
Speaker 1: and control? That's what I'm hearing you say, Well, I
Speaker 1: think we just have to speak directly as to what
Speaker 1: the facts are that we suffered a tremendous setback when
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was elected president, and now we actually have
Speaker 1: one a Senate with a rule, a Senate that supported
Speaker 1: him fully implementing a rule that prevents the Democrats from
Speaker 1: governing or really preventing Congress from functioning, and a Supreme
Speaker 1: Court appointed by someone who choked out one of his
Speaker 1: Secret Service agents encourage people with arms to storm the Capitol.
Speaker 1: That's the mentality, and I think people need to under
Speaker 1: I think the January six Committee is doing a good job.
Speaker 1: They brought in the right consultants all right in terms
Speaker 1: of how to do it, and they didn't try to
Speaker 1: do it all in one week. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: spread out, you know, and you kind of need that
Speaker 1: because it takes people a minute to take it all in.
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna take another week or so more. That's
Speaker 1: why they pushed the other one to next week for
Speaker 1: people to recover from Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony. You know, Danielle,
Speaker 1: in the movies, when somebody's driving, you grabbed the stairwheel,
Speaker 1: they normally calls us the car to wreck. They should
Speaker 1: just let the car rick grab him to a treat
Speaker 1: or something, or they should have let him gone up there.
Speaker 1: They're trying to save his Like if he had gone
Speaker 1: up there with them people with them guys, they would
Speaker 1: have been a cross fire and he probably might have
Speaker 1: been shot. So now I think that I think that
Speaker 1: in all the reason why they didn't let him go
Speaker 1: up there is because there's save in their own asses.
Speaker 1: That's why you have uh sipolone getting ready to testify,
Speaker 1: uh this that the testimony is happening. I think it's
Speaker 1: happening uh this week and then we have the hearing
Speaker 1: next week, so we'll hear what it is that he said.
Speaker 1: And why is he testifying? Because Cassidy dropped more bombs
Speaker 1: than I think that we have seen as of yet
Speaker 1: come out of this administration. And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was so much. I know that
Speaker 1: their job is to protect the physical body of the
Speaker 1: president and protect like the White House, But they were
Speaker 1: protecting their own asses when they didn't allow that man
Speaker 1: to go there, because, as he said, they're not here
Speaker 1: to hurt me, which was just I mean, the President
Speaker 1: of the United States saying that let him in. They're
Speaker 1: not here. They didn't bring guns to kill me, right,
Speaker 1: is an admission that they here to kill somebody, to
Speaker 1: hurt somebody. They're just not here to harm me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I just I literally, man, I mean the secret. I mean,
Speaker 1: once you've done your job and said you can't go
Speaker 1: up here and he overrules, just let him go, y'all,
Speaker 1: don't go. Don't I'm not going. I got COVID, I'm
Speaker 1: out you topyboy, yourself a knock yourself out, um and
Speaker 1: so uh. And you know he would have. He probably
Speaker 1: would enjoy going down to blaze of glory, be a
Speaker 1: martyrn all that. But but the thing is, I think
Speaker 1: that there has to be more of a motivating message.
Speaker 1: I think that those who normally are mobilizing and organizing
Speaker 1: too in a normal election year to get voters out
Speaker 1: are a little bit stymy because they don't get it.
Speaker 1: I think they even underestimated this whole Brittney Grinder's name,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's gaining more momentum. Yeah, what is
Speaker 1: the black elector it's supposed to think you can't do nothing.
Speaker 1: You you can't do anything anywhere, And it takes it's
Speaker 1: a lot of pride for a president to mean, you
Speaker 1: know, no no, I really can't do that. Donald Trump messed
Speaker 1: it up so much and the way they got these
Speaker 1: things red God can't do anything. But even that mark,
Speaker 1: even that would be a better message than what is
Speaker 1: coming out right now, because once again he would be
Speaker 1: able to they would be able to transfer the blame
Speaker 1: on where the blame should actually be. Our economy is
Speaker 1: so fucked up because of these three things that the
Speaker 1: former president did. Our country is strife with bullets and
Speaker 1: you're fearing for your life in public spaces because of
Speaker 1: the three Supreme Court justices that the last president and
Speaker 1: the Republican Party were able to jam through That's what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about in terms of you take these tragic
Speaker 1: moments that we are having Jalen Walker, right being shot
Speaker 1: sixty goddamn times, but a silent the mass murderer being
Speaker 1: taken alive, alive so much so we're getting a medical
Speaker 1: examination and we're wondering about who raised him, right, But
Speaker 1: Jaylen Walker's family is trying to figure out how we
Speaker 1: can't have an open casket because his body is no
Speaker 1: longer in its fault, in its form. So it's just like,
Speaker 1: where is the reaction that meets the moment of greed?
Speaker 1: Like he wanted to be the comforter in chief, right
Speaker 1: in order to comfort people. You're a reverend, don't you
Speaker 1: have to be able to share in their pain and
Speaker 1: articulate it in a way that allows them to feel
Speaker 1: seen and hurt. Yeah, I think so, But he's I mean,
Speaker 1: but Joe Ban's not a reverend. Truthfully, I think that
Speaker 1: they've got to find some way to communicate and mobilize people.
Speaker 1: I believe that, you know, they've also painted themselves into
Speaker 1: a corner by marginalizing, marginalizing the vice president, So you know,
Speaker 1: it's almost a day laying the dollars short to to
Speaker 1: trot her out. Now, that's what they're going to do,
Speaker 1: and they better figure something out. And there are those
Speaker 1: even in Congress who are having the same conversation we're having. There.
Speaker 1: There is a a messaging problem, and I think the
Speaker 1: vice the White House is getting is to engage as
Speaker 1: softly and as little as possible. But that may not
Speaker 1: be the way to go. And I don't know that
Speaker 1: it's the January six hearings alone are what is going
Speaker 1: to mobilize people to the polls that that's going to
Speaker 1: just be able to do it. Some of these other
Speaker 1: things have got to happen. Now, I will say this,
Speaker 1: there is an onus that falls. So there are two
Speaker 1: demographics that decide elections these days, the black electorate led
Speaker 1: by black women, and the other demographic is suburban, college
Speaker 1: educated white women. What are they going to do? So
Speaker 1: here's the thing, the real problem, the reason we're in
Speaker 1: this fix is because of them. He voted for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Nobody really believed like Susan Collins and yeah, going to
Speaker 1: get there, that's what she said. And they believe in
Speaker 1: what you're like, my Susan Collins impersonal Um, So what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do. Now, this shouldn't even be a question.
Speaker 1: If we do what we do as an electorate and
Speaker 1: turn out, and suburban college gets educated white women do
Speaker 1: what they need to do and turn out, this is
Speaker 1: not a problem. But it really boils down as to
Speaker 1: how much that's ladder demographics, suburban college educated white whether
Speaker 1: they're gonna do what they're supposed to do, whether they're
Speaker 1: going to stand up for their own bodily autonomy or
Speaker 1: just give in. We will definitely find out what this
Speaker 1: country is made up. And and the White House may
Speaker 1: just be betting on that. There people might be saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, you can't do nothing anyway, just sit down,
Speaker 1: be quiet, let's just see what happens. I think that's
Speaker 1: a dangerous gamble. But to some extent, we're going to
Speaker 1: find out what America is really really made We did
Speaker 1: we saved the country and right women from Royal Moore.
Speaker 1: We tried to save the country as a black electorate,
Speaker 1: black women in particular from Donald Trump. And so now
Speaker 1: it really boils down to what they're gonna do. And
Speaker 1: that ball is in is in white women's court. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, if the ball is in white women's court,
Speaker 1: then I think that I should dust off my passport
Speaker 1: because historically speaking, uh, they will always vote and I'm
Speaker 1: particularly I'm talking about white sis, Hetero Christian suburban women
Speaker 1: will vote how they have always voted, which is alongside
Speaker 1: their Republican husbands and partners. And they got it right
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. So they don't always do that, I mean,
Speaker 1: and they increased their voting for Donald Trump. You know,
Speaker 1: I just I don't. I will always trust black women
Speaker 1: to do what black women have done since the beginning
Speaker 1: of the beginning of time, which is show up if
Speaker 1: we are put placing a gamble, which we are, which
Speaker 1: we often do, because this is who both parties court.
Speaker 1: Is that of the empathy and the rage and urgency
Speaker 1: of white women. Well you know that usually lasts probably
Speaker 1: about as long as a summer vacation here in America,
Speaker 1: and then they move on to something else. And so
Speaker 1: without the continued messaging and beating of that drum of
Speaker 1: the place of urgency and the compounded crises that we
Speaker 1: are in and who is actually to blame for where
Speaker 1: we are right now, and then why it is that
Speaker 1: we need your vote, Because that was the thing that
Speaker 1: Alexandriro Cassio Cortez had said representative she said, we need
Speaker 1: to tell people why they are voting for us, not
Speaker 1: just to vote for us right, and what numbers we
Speaker 1: need and not just to show up in mass And
Speaker 1: I think that those details are often left behind. But Mark,
Speaker 1: as always, I appreciate your time, your energy, the work
Speaker 1: that you continue to do going to Washington on a
Speaker 1: regular basis, working with Reverend Barber and others in order
Speaker 1: to lift up our voices. I can't thank you enough.
Speaker 1: And we will pick this up next month and see
Speaker 1: exactly where where we land and where we are. Hey man,
Speaker 1: thank you, Daniel. Always a pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Appreciate you. Hey there, I want to
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Speaker 1: it for me today, Dear friends, on this woke a
Speaker 1: f let me say that I wish for you all
Speaker 1: a RESTful weekend. Please unplug, please disconnect, Please find some joy.
Speaker 1: Please stand in the sun, put your feet in the grass,
Speaker 1: take in the air. Spend time with people who fill
Speaker 1: your heart, so that you are able to continue fighting,
Speaker 1: so that you're able to continue sharing, so that you're
Speaker 1: able to continue in conversation, because it's needed now more
Speaker 1: than ever. As always, dear friends, Power to the people
Speaker 1: and to all the people. Power, get woke and stay
Speaker 1: woke as fuck.