WEBVTT - Mourning the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>me your Girl, Danielle Moody recording from the Bunker, Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start off today with being a bit

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable with all of you. You know, I'm a person

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<v Speaker 1>that has spent their career working in democratic politics and

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<v Speaker 1>democratic policy advancing the equity of marginalized communities, particularly the

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<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ community, particularly the Black community, but by virtue of that,

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<v Speaker 1>all other intersectional spaces. And when I criticize this administration,

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<v Speaker 1>when I criticize the Democratic Party, what it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be getting lost with the trolls on social media who

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<v Speaker 1>lack the ability to understand nuance and lack the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to understand the grief that people feel in this moment

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<v Speaker 1>is that it comes from a place of deep sadness.

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<v Speaker 1>My anger and rage, as I've come to understand, it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't just anger and rage. Rage comes from a place

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<v Speaker 1>of deep emotion. And I went to Washington, DC, worked

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<v Speaker 1>on Capitol Hill, worked in the classroom, did policy work,

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<v Speaker 1>advocated for same sex marriage, and did all of these

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<v Speaker 1>things because I believed in the possibility of this country.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it mean to believe in possibility? It believes

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't just throw people away. We don't just

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<v Speaker 1>throw whole fucking communities away. We don't toss up our

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<v Speaker 1>hands and say, what do you want me to do?

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<v Speaker 1>When we're in power, it means that you utilize every

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<v Speaker 1>tool in your fucking toolbox. It means that you work

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<v Speaker 1>for the betterment, and that when you see things that

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<v Speaker 1>are so tragically wrong that you call them out not

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<v Speaker 1>just as a call out to wag fingers, but as

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<v Speaker 1>a call out to open up people's eyes to recognize

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<v Speaker 1>the power that they have to make this country better.

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<v Speaker 1>But without eyes being opened, without people being able to

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<v Speaker 1>turn their rage right into the possibility into working towards progress,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just being ostriches and burying our heads in

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<v Speaker 1>the sand or laying down our accouch and saying that

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<v Speaker 1>we're too exhausted to move, Which is okay, It is

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<v Speaker 1>okay to break down, because the moment is calling for

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<v Speaker 1>the heightened emotions that we are all experiencing that we can't.

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<v Speaker 1>But the very idea that to be critiquing this administration

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<v Speaker 1>and calling out their apathy and their inaction is somehow

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<v Speaker 1>me advocating for people not to show up at the

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<v Speaker 1>polls is somehow me advocating that I don't believe in

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<v Speaker 1>this country just goes to show me how little people

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<v Speaker 1>fucking know in general. Right, But what is disheartening is

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<v Speaker 1>how much you can work and dedicate and advocate and

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<v Speaker 1>how in small moments people cease to silence you. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I know to be true about me.

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<v Speaker 1>Is in the coming week or so, I'm taking a

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<v Speaker 1>break from Twitter in particular because I think that much

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<v Speaker 1>as many guests have come on the show and said,

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<v Speaker 1>and many people I know have experienced after they've experienced

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<v Speaker 1>a considerable amount of backlash that results in people calling

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<v Speaker 1>for your rape or your death or for you to

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<v Speaker 1>be silenced, is that clearly you've hit a fucking nerve.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm okay with that. But what I'm not okay

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<v Speaker 1>with is putting my own emotional health and mental health

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<v Speaker 1>and well being up for target practice to fucking trolls.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I realize is that the more that other

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<v Speaker 1>people are listening to you, the more that other people

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<v Speaker 1>are connecting with your message, the scarier the dissenters become.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what I want to offer to folks is

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<v Speaker 1>that we will all in our own platforms in our

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<v Speaker 1>own spaces receive a lot of pushback. We'll receive a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pushback because that's what happens when you speak

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. That's what happens when you challenge the status

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<v Speaker 1>quo and you challenge norms. So I'm not just going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell people, oh, just get out the vote and

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<v Speaker 1>just vote more is if that is going to solve

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<v Speaker 1>our problems. It's not voting sure as fuck is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to solve our problems. But I do say that

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<v Speaker 1>I understand now for those that have reasoning behind not

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<v Speaker 1>showing up at the polls why they don't, But that

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<v Speaker 1>to me is just casting a ballot for Republicans because

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<v Speaker 1>they're sixty five and older crowd always votes. They never

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<v Speaker 1>miss a fucking election, not from the Schoolhouse to the

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<v Speaker 1>State House and to the White House. They don't miss one.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I will say is that I need for

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<v Speaker 1>this administration to offer up something, even it is to

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<v Speaker 1>lay out in no uncertain terms, where the fucking blame

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<v Speaker 1>and rage that we are feeling should be pointed. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>our economy is struggling. Why is that because of decisions

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<v Speaker 1>that Republicans and Donald Trump made, So say that right,

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<v Speaker 1>women and people with uterus are angry because they've lost

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<v Speaker 1>bodily autonomy and now they are in fear for their

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<v Speaker 1>lives and the fear for the lives of their family right,

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<v Speaker 1>So say that, and say who was able to steal

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<v Speaker 1>to Supreme Court seats and put three Republicans on the

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<v Speaker 1>bench that would have us in this moment, Tell the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking truth. That's all that I am advocating for is

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<v Speaker 1>for this administration to turn on their microphone, to turn

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<v Speaker 1>on their bully pulpit, and instead of continuing to make

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<v Speaker 1>fucking deals with Mitch McConnell and this rabid, fucking radicalized cult,

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<v Speaker 1>to engage the people and tell them the truth. You

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<v Speaker 1>cannot just tell people to vote and not tell them

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<v Speaker 1>who to vote for. You cannot just say, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>must choose me because the other guy is bad. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to say, in no uncertain terms, why the other

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<v Speaker 1>guy is bad, Why they are not only bad, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are a danger to democracy, That they are a

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<v Speaker 1>danger to your ability to put food on the table,

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<v Speaker 1>that they are danger to your safety. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>are not while you have this platform called the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>using every opportunity to tell the American people the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>truth about who they are dealing with, and that we

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<v Speaker 1>are set up in two camps right now. And it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't Democrat and Republican, right, it is patriot and it

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<v Speaker 1>is traitor. That is what somebody had sent to me

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<v Speaker 1>that apparently Ulysses S. Grant had said at one time,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the world that we are living in. So

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<v Speaker 1>tell the fucking truth. Don't tell me that I have

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<v Speaker 1>friends from across the aisle, because those motherfuckers try to

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<v Speaker 1>build a gallows and kill there are other friends from

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<v Speaker 1>across the aisle that Donald Trump said, oh, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>here to harm me at the Stop to Steel rally

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<v Speaker 1>when he knew that he was sending people that were

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<v Speaker 1>hyped up on racial animus and racism and misogyny and

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<v Speaker 1>toxic masculinity armed and directing them towards the Capitol building.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell the truth. Don't think that by doing so, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>somehow you're impeding on an investigation that we don't even

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<v Speaker 1>really know is happening outside of what is happening in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god for a G. Willis, who seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>the only person working right now. So what I say

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<v Speaker 1>when I am angry, when I am filled with rage,

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<v Speaker 1>which is on a daily so much so that it

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<v Speaker 1>is exhausting, so much so that I am waking up

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<v Speaker 1>in tears and going to bed in tears, because if

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<v Speaker 1>I have to hear about one more shooting of a

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<v Speaker 1>black person, if I have to hear about one more

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<v Speaker 1>story of a young girl who was raped and is

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<v Speaker 1>now have to figure out where they're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>an abortion, if I have to hear one more of

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<v Speaker 1>these things, I'm going to lose my fucking mind, because

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<v Speaker 1>they're all happening, and they're all happening at the same

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn time, and this administration still thinks that we are

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<v Speaker 1>in this twentieth century rational place when we are clearly

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<v Speaker 1>not so. Coming up today is my monthly conversation that

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<v Speaker 1>I have with our friend Reverend Mark Thompson, host of

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<v Speaker 1>Make It Plain, to talk about as he has spent

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<v Speaker 1>his life literally in the civil rights movement, marching on

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<v Speaker 1>the front lines, is back and forth to Washington, DC,

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<v Speaker 1>what he thinks this moment is calling for, and how

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<v Speaker 1>this moment is different than what was experienced in the

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<v Speaker 1>fifties and sixties and seventies and eighties in this country

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<v Speaker 1>towards black people and specifically but towards the idea of progression.

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<v Speaker 1>host of Make It Plain, our friend, Reverend Mark Thompson,

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<v Speaker 1>on our monthly conversation with regard to the upcoming midterms,

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<v Speaker 1>the current cultural climate in this nation, which is to

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<v Speaker 1>use the word fraught, Mark would be at the understatement

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. You have been back and forth to Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. Protesting with regard to a portion protesting with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to voting rights. Mark, I just want to start

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<v Speaker 1>off with the you know, with asking you this. You

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<v Speaker 1>have been doing this a long time. You have been

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<v Speaker 1>on the front lines literally marching for your entire professional career.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you see, if you see it at all,

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<v Speaker 1>this time different than the decades before. Wow, We're first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, always good to be with you and the

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<v Speaker 1>Woka family. It's funny. I was just talking to someone

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<v Speaker 1>about this earlier today. In the past, we had some

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<v Speaker 1>insurmountable victories as well. I mean I came along at

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<v Speaker 1>a time when we forced Ronald Reagan to sign the

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<v Speaker 1>King Holliday Bill, where we stopped, when we stopped the

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<v Speaker 1>nomination of Robert Bourke, when we forced the Congress past

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<v Speaker 1>sanctions on South Africa and then forced the Congress to

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<v Speaker 1>override Reagan's veto. That's a power that we had as

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<v Speaker 1>a movement, as an African American movement, as a civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights movement, as a human rights movement, as a progressive

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<v Speaker 1>or liberal movement. I think the difference now is is

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<v Speaker 1>that finally America and we all are faced with the

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<v Speaker 1>reality that the government is practically no longer functional at all.

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<v Speaker 1>The filibuster has nullified both Houses of Congress, the politicization

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<v Speaker 1>of the Supreme Court and its appointments. The Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>has become an absolutely partisan body. And the executive branch,

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<v Speaker 1>I think people are learning for the first time, really

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<v Speaker 1>without the legislative branch has very little power. There's only

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<v Speaker 1>so much a president can do with executive orders. So

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<v Speaker 1>if the president can do much, if Congress has been nullified,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Supreme Court is now become a hyperpartisan, right

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<v Speaker 1>wing white supremacist institution, going back to the days of plessing.

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<v Speaker 1>If not earlier, then what can be done. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that can be done unless we replace everyone in office.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's hard to do that without motivation. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the onus has fallen upon Democrats to give

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<v Speaker 1>us some of the nation. They just haven't been very

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<v Speaker 1>good at it and have not shown a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>interest in doing it. I think there's a level of

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<v Speaker 1>intellectualism there. Well. The Democratic Party, franklies run by consultants,

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<v Speaker 1>and the consultant class is intellectual, and so they're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>is everybody knows and understands what they know that if

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<v Speaker 1>people don't get out and vote, it's going to get worse.

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<v Speaker 1>But people like you and me, Danielle, people who listen

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<v Speaker 1>to our shows are not like everyone else. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a keen interest in this. We follow it.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people don't. Most people are living their lives trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make it and they don't know. And all they

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<v Speaker 1>see is high gas prices, and for black people, all

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<v Speaker 1>they see is a sister in jail and Russian nothing

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<v Speaker 1>big done about it. So what does that look like?

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<v Speaker 1>That looks like nineteen eighty high gas prices, people in jail,

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<v Speaker 1>hostages in Iran and you've I've learned from that. Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Carter couldn't turn that around. They might have been a

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<v Speaker 1>way to do it, but was every avenue exhausted to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent it? Probably not. And I think that's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party culture, just kind of you know, well

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<v Speaker 1>hoped and you know, you know, kind of use I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the rhythm method, thinking that that's kind of motive

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<v Speaker 1>they voted rather than actually organizing more. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>consultants will say to Biden, well, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>look too radical and you don't want to offend independence.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there's a way to have both. People

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<v Speaker 1>want to see some strength, psyche something. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I even had people who would never criticize the Democratic president,

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<v Speaker 1>never criticized your baby, come and say, man, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>he say something? Why don't he just you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not happening, unfortunate. And those who would think

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<v Speaker 1>that that type of criticism is anti party or discouraging

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<v Speaker 1>people from voting, No, Because I'm telling you something else too.

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<v Speaker 1>NFL just cut a deal with ice Cube. Ice Cube

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<v Speaker 1>is being paid to suppress voters. We aren't supressed voters.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an active movement to suppress voters. Us saying, Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>speak up more, exhaust everything at your disposal is not

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<v Speaker 1>voting suppression. That's to help get the vote out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I'll say, and I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>said this to you before and to others, even a

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<v Speaker 1>show of strength, even if he didn't go through with it,

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<v Speaker 1>to say that he's gonna do what was done during

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<v Speaker 1>reconstruction and what was done during but eisenhow did Little Rock,

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<v Speaker 1>Arkansas did de serregate schools. He's going to send federal

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<v Speaker 1>troops into the South to make sure everybody has the

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<v Speaker 1>right to vote exercise. If co Voting Rights Act isn't gone,

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<v Speaker 1>there's still things that can be enforceable, right because we

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<v Speaker 1>are in in a seditious moment, We're in an insurrectionist moment,

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<v Speaker 1>so why not do that? Just like you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>been the consideration, as there should be as to whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not military basis can provide reproductive and abortion services

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<v Speaker 1>to women beyond what the Supreme Court has done. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think everything has to be on the table. Even

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<v Speaker 1>for that to be discussed out loud by the White

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<v Speaker 1>House would at least I think give people some reason. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they're still fighting. We can fight too, there's

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<v Speaker 1>still something to fight for. We haven't all because I

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise I think people are going to be demoralized. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think to that point that people are all

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<v Speaker 1>ready demoralized. I think that you know, what I have

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<v Speaker 1>been advocating for and getting a tremendous amount of pushback in,

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<v Speaker 1>is this stand up and say something, Say something other

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<v Speaker 1>than we find out that Joe Biden is still fucking

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<v Speaker 1>cutting deals with Mitch McConnell right to put in another

0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:17.680
<v Speaker 1>forced birth federal judge in Kentucky, and you're hearing rumors

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<v Speaker 1>about that happening. How does this president still negotiate with

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch McConnell, who is in the minority, who has shown

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<v Speaker 1>himself to be a bad faith actor. When you hear

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<v Speaker 1>when the people who aren't paying attention all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they have two clips, mark, they have the

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<v Speaker 1>clip of the Supreme Court saying women and people with

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<v Speaker 1>uter says you no longer have bodily autonomy. Boom, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one clip. Then they got another clip where you hear

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<v Speaker 1>that the President of the United States is negotiating with

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<v Speaker 1>the man that stole two Supreme Court seats. Mitch McConnell

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<v Speaker 1>didn't ask to negotiate with a damned person during the

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<v Speaker 1>Obama administration. As a matter of fact, he said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to make you a one term president and then

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<v Speaker 1>set it again to Joe Biden. Joe Biden's response to

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<v Speaker 1>that is negotiation and saying that Mitch McConnell is a

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<v Speaker 1>rational Republican. So if I'm a person that is not

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<v Speaker 1>readily paying attention every day because I'm struggling to put

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<v Speaker 1>gas in my tank and food on my table and

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<v Speaker 1>medicine in my medicine chest, then how is it that

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<v Speaker 1>this Democratic Party thinks that they are going to win? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>They keep saying, well, we're going to concentrate on kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>table issues, and I said, well, I said this the

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<v Speaker 1>other day on MSNBC. There is no other kitchen table

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<v Speaker 1>issue than the strength of our democracy and then the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to actually have set people around the kitchen table,

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<v Speaker 1>because the kitchen table is about economy. And if people

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<v Speaker 1>are being forced out of the workplace because they're being

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<v Speaker 1>forced to birth children that they cannot afford and do

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<v Speaker 1>not want, how is that not a kitchen table issue.

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<v Speaker 1>How is not something that you are willing to stand

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<v Speaker 1>up forcefully, even if it's in words only. But to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, exhaust every avenue. Yeah, those those are valid points.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, you know, I think that the structure in

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<v Speaker 1>the White House is may very well be be failing

0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.479
<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden. Here's an opportunity that I think that they're missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Though the party in power power, the party in power

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<v Speaker 1>always loses in the midterms. The opportunity that I think

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the consultant class which is running the White House is

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<v Speaker 1>missing is that Democrats aren't the party in power. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though Democrats hold the White House and both houses, we're

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<v Speaker 1>the ones taking all the hits. The power is coming

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<v Speaker 1>from Republicans controlling the filibuster, with the help of Mansion

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<v Speaker 1>in cinema, and from the Supreme Court. So if people

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<v Speaker 1>are more motivated in the mid terms because they're in

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<v Speaker 1>the opposition, then you know, it may it may cause

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<v Speaker 1>some people to put their pride aside. But maybe Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>need to make it clear in the message. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we even though we got the White House, we are

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<v Speaker 1>the party still in opposition. We're the opposition party because

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<v Speaker 1>everything is happening over and above us. What Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>did that last week was devastating. They just they flurried

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<v Speaker 1>on the public miranda, state gun laws, the EPA. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not in power. We are not in power, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we should act like that rather than act as if, well,

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<v Speaker 1>because Joe Biden's a president, we're in power, we might

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<v Speaker 1>lose some of the midterms. That's not right being in power.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just what's on paper, but what's real. And

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<v Speaker 1>some of those conversations I've been having on my show

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<v Speaker 1>really ought to go to that mobilizing people understand. You know, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>we I know what this looks like, but it really

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 1>ain't what it seems to be. And how do you expect?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that that is such that is such

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<v Speaker 1>a valid point mark and one that I will say

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<v Speaker 1>that I have not been thinking about because they may

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<v Speaker 1>have quote unquote Democrats may have control of these chambers,

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<v Speaker 1>but they actually do not have the power. But if

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<v Speaker 1>by perception, we have always been told, right, we've always

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<v Speaker 1>been told that you need to vote because the president

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<v Speaker 1>is the leader of the free world, that the president

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<v Speaker 1>is the one that can do this, that and the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing. And then we're remembering what Donald Trump was

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 1>able to do right, and we say, well, wait a minute,

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 1>why did he have such outsized power in that same position?

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:58.640
<v Speaker 1>And yet we have a democratic president now that's saying, oh,

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't have any power. Don't remember Donald Trump ever

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<v Speaker 1>saying that. I don't remember when Mitch McConnell, now being

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>in the minority, has said that. So how do we

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<v Speaker 1>message that to people to understand the difference between power

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<v Speaker 1>and control? That's what I'm hearing you say, Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we just have to speak directly as to what

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the facts are that we suffered a tremendous setback when

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was elected president, and now we actually have

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<v Speaker 1>one a Senate with a rule, a Senate that supported

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>him fully implementing a rule that prevents the Democrats from

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<v Speaker 1>governing or really preventing Congress from functioning, and a Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court appointed by someone who choked out one of his

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<v Speaker 1>Secret Service agents encourage people with arms to storm the Capitol.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the mentality, and I think people need to under

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<v Speaker 1>I think the January six Committee is doing a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>They brought in the right consultants all right in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of how to do it, and they didn't try to

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<v Speaker 1>do it all in one week. This is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>spread out, you know, and you kind of need that

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>because it takes people a minute to take it all in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably gonna take another week or so more. That's

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>why they pushed the other one to next week for

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:36.680
<v Speaker 1>people to recover from Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony. You know, Danielle,

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>in the movies, when somebody's driving, you grabbed the stairwheel,

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 1>they normally calls us the car to wreck. They should

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<v Speaker 1>just let the car rick grab him to a treat

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<v Speaker 1>or something, or they should have let him gone up there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to save his Like if he had gone

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<v Speaker 1>up there with them people with them guys, they would

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>have been a cross fire and he probably might have

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<v Speaker 1>been shot. So now I think that I think that

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<v Speaker 1>in all the reason why they didn't let him go

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>up there is because there's save in their own asses.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you have uh sipolone getting ready to testify,

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:09.200
<v Speaker 1>uh this that the testimony is happening. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>happening uh this week and then we have the hearing

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>next week, so we'll hear what it is that he said.

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 1>And why is he testifying? Because Cassidy dropped more bombs

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>than I think that we have seen as of yet

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>come out of this administration. And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was so much. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>their job is to protect the physical body of the

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>president and protect like the White House, But they were

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>protecting their own asses when they didn't allow that man

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<v Speaker 1>to go there, because, as he said, they're not here

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>to hurt me, which was just I mean, the President

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>of the United States saying that let him in. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not here. They didn't bring guns to kill me, right,

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>is an admission that they here to kill somebody, to

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>hurt somebody. They're just not here to harm me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I literally, man, I mean the secret. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>once you've done your job and said you can't go

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>up here and he overrules, just let him go, y'all,

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>don't go. Don't I'm not going. I got COVID, I'm

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:14.160
<v Speaker 1>out you topyboy, yourself a knock yourself out, um and

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>so uh. And you know he would have. He probably

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>would enjoy going down to blaze of glory, be a

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 1>martyrn all that. But but the thing is, I think

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:28.360
<v Speaker 1>that there has to be more of a motivating message.

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that those who normally are mobilizing and organizing

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<v Speaker 1>too in a normal election year to get voters out

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>are a little bit stymy because they don't get it.

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I think they even underestimated this whole Brittney Grinder's name,

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's gaining more momentum. Yeah, what is

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>the black elector it's supposed to think you can't do nothing.

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>You you can't do anything anywhere, And it takes it's

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of pride for a president to mean, you

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>know, no no, I really can't do that. Donald Trump messed

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it up so much and the way they got these

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>things red God can't do anything. But even that mark,

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>even that would be a better message than what is

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>coming out right now, because once again he would be

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>able to they would be able to transfer the blame

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>on where the blame should actually be. Our economy is

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>so fucked up because of these three things that the

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>former president did. Our country is strife with bullets and

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you're fearing for your life in public spaces because of

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the three Supreme Court justices that the last president and

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party were able to jam through That's what

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about in terms of you take these tragic

0:28:54.720 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>moments that we are having Jalen Walker, right being shot

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>sixty goddamn times, but a silent the mass murderer being

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>taken alive, alive so much so we're getting a medical

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>examination and we're wondering about who raised him, right, But

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Jaylen Walker's family is trying to figure out how we

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.239
<v Speaker 1>can't have an open casket because his body is no

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>longer in its fault, in its form. So it's just like,

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>where is the reaction that meets the moment of greed?

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Like he wanted to be the comforter in chief, right

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>in order to comfort people. You're a reverend, don't you

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>have to be able to share in their pain and

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>articulate it in a way that allows them to feel

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>seen and hurt. Yeah, I think so, But he's I mean,

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>but Joe Ban's not a reverend. Truthfully, I think that

0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 1>they've got to find some way to communicate and mobilize people.

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I believe that, you know, they've also painted themselves into

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>a corner by marginalizing, marginalizing the vice president, So you know,

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>it's almost a day laying the dollars short to to

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>trot her out. Now, that's what they're going to do,

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and they better figure something out. And there are those

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>even in Congress who are having the same conversation we're having. There.

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>There is a a messaging problem, and I think the

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>vice the White House is getting is to engage as

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>softly and as little as possible. But that may not

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>be the way to go. And I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>it's the January six hearings alone are what is going

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<v Speaker 1>to mobilize people to the polls that that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>just be able to do it. Some of these other

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<v Speaker 1>things have got to happen. Now, I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>there is an onus that falls. So there are two

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<v Speaker 1>demographics that decide elections these days, the black electorate led

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<v Speaker 1>by black women, and the other demographic is suburban, college

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<v Speaker 1>educated white women. What are they going to do? So

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, the real problem, the reason we're in

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<v Speaker 1>this fix is because of them. He voted for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody really believed like Susan Collins and yeah, going to

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<v Speaker 1>get there, that's what she said. And they believe in

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<v Speaker 1>what you're like, my Susan Collins impersonal Um, So what

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do. Now, this shouldn't even be a question.

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<v Speaker 1>If we do what we do as an electorate and

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<v Speaker 1>turn out, and suburban college gets educated white women do

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<v Speaker 1>what they need to do and turn out, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a problem. But it really boils down as to

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<v Speaker 1>how much that's ladder demographics, suburban college educated white whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do what they're supposed to do, whether they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to stand up for their own bodily autonomy or

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<v Speaker 1>just give in. We will definitely find out what this

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<v Speaker 1>country is made up. And and the White House may

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<v Speaker 1>just be betting on that. There people might be saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you can't do nothing anyway, just sit down,

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<v Speaker 1>be quiet, let's just see what happens. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a dangerous gamble. But to some extent, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>find out what America is really really made We did

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<v Speaker 1>we saved the country and right women from Royal Moore.

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<v Speaker 1>We tried to save the country as a black electorate,

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<v Speaker 1>black women in particular from Donald Trump. And so now

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<v Speaker 1>it really boils down to what they're gonna do. And

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<v Speaker 1>that ball is in is in white women's court. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if the ball is in white women's court,

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<v Speaker 1>then I think that I should dust off my passport

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<v Speaker 1>because historically speaking, uh, they will always vote and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>particularly I'm talking about white sis, Hetero Christian suburban women

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<v Speaker 1>will vote how they have always voted, which is alongside

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<v Speaker 1>their Republican husbands and partners. And they got it right

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty. So they don't always do that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and they increased their voting for Donald Trump. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't. I will always trust black women

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<v Speaker 1>to do what black women have done since the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the beginning of time, which is show up if

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<v Speaker 1>we are put placing a gamble, which we are, which

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<v Speaker 1>we often do, because this is who both parties court.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that of the empathy and the rage and urgency

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<v Speaker 1>of white women. Well you know that usually lasts probably

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<v Speaker 1>about as long as a summer vacation here in America,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they move on to something else. And so

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<v Speaker 1>without the continued messaging and beating of that drum of

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<v Speaker 1>the place of urgency and the compounded crises that we

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<v Speaker 1>are in and who is actually to blame for where

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<v Speaker 1>we are right now, and then why it is that

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<v Speaker 1>we need your vote, Because that was the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandriro Cassio Cortez had said representative she said, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to tell people why they are voting for us, not

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<v Speaker 1>just to vote for us right, and what numbers we

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<v Speaker 1>need and not just to show up in mass And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that those details are often left behind. But Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>as always, I appreciate your time, your energy, the work

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<v Speaker 1>that you continue to do going to Washington on a

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<v Speaker 1>regular basis, working with Reverend Barber and others in order

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<v Speaker 1>to lift up our voices. I can't thank you enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And we will pick this up next month and see

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<v Speaker 1>exactly where where we land and where we are. Hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Daniel. Always a pleasure to be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you. Appreciate you. Hey there, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>it for me today, Dear friends, on this woke a

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<v Speaker 1>f let me say that I wish for you all

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<v Speaker 1>a RESTful weekend. Please unplug, please disconnect, Please find some joy.

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Please stand in the sun, put your feet in the grass,

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>take in the air. Spend time with people who fill

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<v Speaker 1>your heart, so that you are able to continue fighting,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you're able to continue sharing, so that you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to continue in conversation, because it's needed now more

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<v Speaker 1>than ever. As always, dear friends, Power to the people

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<v Speaker 1>and to all the people. Power, get woke and stay

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<v Speaker 1>woke as fuck.