1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: me your Girl, Danielle Moody recording from the Bunker, Folks, 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: I want to start off today with being a bit 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: vulnerable with all of you. You know, I'm a person 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: that has spent their career working in democratic politics and 6 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: democratic policy advancing the equity of marginalized communities, particularly the 7 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: LGBTQ community, particularly the Black community, but by virtue of that, 8 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: all other intersectional spaces. And when I criticize this administration, 9 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: when I criticize the Democratic Party, what it seems to 10 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: be getting lost with the trolls on social media who 11 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: lack the ability to understand nuance and lack the ability 12 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: to understand the grief that people feel in this moment 13 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: is that it comes from a place of deep sadness. 14 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: My anger and rage, as I've come to understand, it 15 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: isn't just anger and rage. Rage comes from a place 16 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: of deep emotion. And I went to Washington, DC, worked 17 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill, worked in the classroom, did policy work, 18 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: advocated for same sex marriage, and did all of these 19 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: things because I believed in the possibility of this country. 20 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: What does it mean to believe in possibility? It believes 21 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: that we don't just throw people away. We don't just 22 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: throw whole fucking communities away. We don't toss up our 23 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: hands and say, what do you want me to do? 24 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: When we're in power, it means that you utilize every 25 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: tool in your fucking toolbox. It means that you work 26 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: for the betterment, and that when you see things that 27 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: are so tragically wrong that you call them out not 28 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: just as a call out to wag fingers, but as 29 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 1: a call out to open up people's eyes to recognize 30 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: the power that they have to make this country better. 31 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: But without eyes being opened, without people being able to 32 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: turn their rage right into the possibility into working towards progress, 33 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: and not just being ostriches and burying our heads in 34 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: the sand or laying down our accouch and saying that 35 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: we're too exhausted to move, Which is okay, It is 36 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: okay to break down, because the moment is calling for 37 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: the heightened emotions that we are all experiencing that we can't. 38 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: But the very idea that to be critiquing this administration 39 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: and calling out their apathy and their inaction is somehow 40 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: me advocating for people not to show up at the 41 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: polls is somehow me advocating that I don't believe in 42 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: this country just goes to show me how little people 43 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: fucking know in general. Right, But what is disheartening is 44 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: how much you can work and dedicate and advocate and 45 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: how in small moments people cease to silence you. And 46 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: this is what I know to be true about me. 47 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: Is in the coming week or so, I'm taking a 48 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: break from Twitter in particular because I think that much 49 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: as many guests have come on the show and said, 50 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: and many people I know have experienced after they've experienced 51 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: a considerable amount of backlash that results in people calling 52 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: for your rape or your death or for you to 53 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: be silenced, is that clearly you've hit a fucking nerve. 54 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: And I'm okay with that. But what I'm not okay 55 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: with is putting my own emotional health and mental health 56 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: and well being up for target practice to fucking trolls. 57 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: But what I realize is that the more that other 58 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: people are listening to you, the more that other people 59 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: are connecting with your message, the scarier the dissenters become. 60 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: And so what I want to offer to folks is 61 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: that we will all in our own platforms in our 62 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: own spaces receive a lot of pushback. We'll receive a 63 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: lot of pushback because that's what happens when you speak 64 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: the truth. That's what happens when you challenge the status 65 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: quo and you challenge norms. So I'm not just going 66 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: to tell people, oh, just get out the vote and 67 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: just vote more is if that is going to solve 68 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: our problems. It's not voting sure as fuck is not 69 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: going to solve our problems. But I do say that 70 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: I understand now for those that have reasoning behind not 71 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: showing up at the polls why they don't, But that 72 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: to me is just casting a ballot for Republicans because 73 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: they're sixty five and older crowd always votes. They never 74 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: miss a fucking election, not from the Schoolhouse to the 75 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: State House and to the White House. They don't miss one. 76 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: So what I will say is that I need for 77 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: this administration to offer up something, even it is to 78 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: lay out in no uncertain terms, where the fucking blame 79 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: and rage that we are feeling should be pointed. Right, 80 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: our economy is struggling. Why is that because of decisions 81 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: that Republicans and Donald Trump made, So say that right, 82 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: women and people with uterus are angry because they've lost 83 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: bodily autonomy and now they are in fear for their 84 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: lives and the fear for the lives of their family right, 85 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: So say that, and say who was able to steal 86 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: to Supreme Court seats and put three Republicans on the 87 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: bench that would have us in this moment, Tell the 88 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: fucking truth. That's all that I am advocating for is 89 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: for this administration to turn on their microphone, to turn 90 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: on their bully pulpit, and instead of continuing to make 91 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: fucking deals with Mitch McConnell and this rabid, fucking radicalized cult, 92 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: to engage the people and tell them the truth. You 93 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: cannot just tell people to vote and not tell them 94 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: who to vote for. You cannot just say, oh, you 95 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: must choose me because the other guy is bad. You 96 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: need to say, in no uncertain terms, why the other 97 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: guy is bad, Why they are not only bad, but 98 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: they are a danger to democracy, That they are a 99 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: danger to your ability to put food on the table, 100 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: that they are danger to your safety. But if you 101 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: are not while you have this platform called the White House, 102 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: using every opportunity to tell the American people the fucking 103 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: truth about who they are dealing with, and that we 104 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: are set up in two camps right now. And it 105 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: isn't Democrat and Republican, right, it is patriot and it 106 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: is traitor. That is what somebody had sent to me 107 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: that apparently Ulysses S. Grant had said at one time, 108 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: that is the world that we are living in. So 109 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: tell the fucking truth. Don't tell me that I have 110 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: friends from across the aisle, because those motherfuckers try to 111 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: build a gallows and kill there are other friends from 112 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: across the aisle that Donald Trump said, oh, they're not 113 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: here to harm me at the Stop to Steel rally 114 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: when he knew that he was sending people that were 115 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: hyped up on racial animus and racism and misogyny and 116 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: toxic masculinity armed and directing them towards the Capitol building. 117 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: So tell the truth. Don't think that by doing so, oh, 118 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: somehow you're impeding on an investigation that we don't even 119 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: really know is happening outside of what is happening in Georgia. 120 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Thank god for a G. Willis, who seems to be 121 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 1: the only person working right now. So what I say 122 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: when I am angry, when I am filled with rage, 123 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: which is on a daily so much so that it 124 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: is exhausting, so much so that I am waking up 125 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: in tears and going to bed in tears, because if 126 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: I have to hear about one more shooting of a 127 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: black person, if I have to hear about one more 128 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: story of a young girl who was raped and is 129 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: now have to figure out where they're going to get 130 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: an abortion, if I have to hear one more of 131 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: these things, I'm going to lose my fucking mind, because 132 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: they're all happening, and they're all happening at the same 133 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: goddamn time, and this administration still thinks that we are 134 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: in this twentieth century rational place when we are clearly 135 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: not so. Coming up today is my monthly conversation that 136 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: I have with our friend Reverend Mark Thompson, host of 137 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: Make It Plain, to talk about as he has spent 138 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: his life literally in the civil rights movement, marching on 139 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: the front lines, is back and forth to Washington, DC, 140 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: what he thinks this moment is calling for, and how 141 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: this moment is different than what was experienced in the 142 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: fifties and sixties and seventies and eighties in this country 143 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: towards black people and specifically but towards the idea of progression. 144 00:09:50,080 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: More specifically, that conversation is coming up next in Beautiful 145 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: with Doctor Rashid Ricci is one of the latest shows 146 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: on the TYT network and also the fastest growing news 147 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: show in America. 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Folks, I want to welcome our friend back, 167 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,119 Speaker 1: host of Make It Plain, our friend, Reverend Mark Thompson, 168 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: on our monthly conversation with regard to the upcoming midterms, 169 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: the current cultural climate in this nation, which is to 170 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: use the word fraught, Mark would be at the understatement 171 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: of the year. You have been back and forth to Washington, 172 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: d C. Protesting with regard to a portion protesting with 173 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: regard to voting rights. Mark, I just want to start 174 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: off with the you know, with asking you this. You 175 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: have been doing this a long time. You have been 176 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: on the front lines literally marching for your entire professional career. 177 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: How do you see, if you see it at all, 178 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: this time different than the decades before. Wow, We're first 179 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: of all, always good to be with you and the 180 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: Woka family. It's funny. I was just talking to someone 181 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: about this earlier today. In the past, we had some 182 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: insurmountable victories as well. I mean I came along at 183 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: a time when we forced Ronald Reagan to sign the 184 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: King Holliday Bill, where we stopped, when we stopped the 185 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: nomination of Robert Bourke, when we forced the Congress past 186 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: sanctions on South Africa and then forced the Congress to 187 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: override Reagan's veto. That's a power that we had as 188 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: a movement, as an African American movement, as a civil 189 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: rights movement, as a human rights movement, as a progressive 190 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: or liberal movement. I think the difference now is is 191 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: that finally America and we all are faced with the 192 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: reality that the government is practically no longer functional at all. 193 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: The filibuster has nullified both Houses of Congress, the politicization 194 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court and its appointments. The Supreme Court 195 00:13:54,120 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: has become an absolutely partisan body. And the executive branch, 196 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: I think people are learning for the first time, really 197 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: without the legislative branch has very little power. There's only 198 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: so much a president can do with executive orders. So 199 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: if the president can do much, if Congress has been nullified, 200 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: if the Supreme Court is now become a hyperpartisan, right 201 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: wing white supremacist institution, going back to the days of plessing. 202 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: If not earlier, then what can be done. There's nothing 203 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: that can be done unless we replace everyone in office. 204 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: But it's hard to do that without motivation. And I 205 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: think that the onus has fallen upon Democrats to give 206 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: us some of the nation. They just haven't been very 207 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: good at it and have not shown a lot of 208 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: interest in doing it. I think there's a level of 209 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:14,359 Speaker 1: intellectualism there. Well. The Democratic Party, franklies run by consultants, 210 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: and the consultant class is intellectual, and so they're thinking 211 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: is everybody knows and understands what they know that if 212 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: people don't get out and vote, it's going to get worse. 213 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: But people like you and me, Danielle, people who listen 214 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: to our shows are not like everyone else. You know, 215 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: we have a keen interest in this. We follow it. 216 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: Most people don't. Most people are living their lives trying 217 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: to make it and they don't know. And all they 218 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: see is high gas prices, and for black people, all 219 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: they see is a sister in jail and Russian nothing 220 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: big done about it. So what does that look like? 221 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: That looks like nineteen eighty high gas prices, people in jail, 222 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: hostages in Iran and you've I've learned from that. Jimmy 223 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: Carter couldn't turn that around. They might have been a 224 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: way to do it, but was every avenue exhausted to 225 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: prevent it? Probably not. And I think that's part of 226 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party culture, just kind of you know, well 227 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: hoped and you know, you know, kind of use I 228 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: guess the rhythm method, thinking that that's kind of motive 229 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: they voted rather than actually organizing more. And you know, 230 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: consultants will say to Biden, well, you don't want to 231 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: look too radical and you don't want to offend independence. 232 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: But I think there's a way to have both. People 233 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: want to see some strength, psyche something. And you know, 234 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: I even had people who would never criticize the Democratic president, 235 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: never criticized your baby, come and say, man, why don't 236 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: he say something? Why don't he just you know, and 237 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: it's it's not happening, unfortunate. And those who would think 238 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: that that type of criticism is anti party or discouraging 239 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: people from voting, No, Because I'm telling you something else too. 240 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: NFL just cut a deal with ice Cube. Ice Cube 241 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: is being paid to suppress voters. We aren't supressed voters. 242 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: There's an active movement to suppress voters. Us saying, Biden, 243 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: speak up more, exhaust everything at your disposal is not 244 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: voting suppression. That's to help get the vote out. It's 245 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: one of the things I'll say, and I think I've 246 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: said this to you before and to others, even a 247 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: show of strength, even if he didn't go through with it, 248 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: to say that he's gonna do what was done during 249 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: reconstruction and what was done during but eisenhow did Little Rock, 250 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: Arkansas did de serregate schools. He's going to send federal 251 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: troops into the South to make sure everybody has the 252 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: right to vote exercise. If co Voting Rights Act isn't gone, 253 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: there's still things that can be enforceable, right because we 254 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: are in in a seditious moment, We're in an insurrectionist moment, 255 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: so why not do that? Just like you know, there's 256 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: been the consideration, as there should be as to whether 257 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: or not military basis can provide reproductive and abortion services 258 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 1: to women beyond what the Supreme Court has done. I mean, 259 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: I think everything has to be on the table. Even 260 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: for that to be discussed out loud by the White 261 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: House would at least I think give people some reason. Okay, well, 262 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: you know they're still fighting. We can fight too, there's 263 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: still something to fight for. We haven't all because I 264 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: otherwise I think people are going to be demoralized. I mean, 265 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: and I think to that point that people are all 266 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: ready demoralized. I think that you know, what I have 267 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: been advocating for and getting a tremendous amount of pushback in, 268 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: is this stand up and say something, Say something other 269 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: than we find out that Joe Biden is still fucking 270 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: cutting deals with Mitch McConnell right to put in another 271 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: forced birth federal judge in Kentucky, and you're hearing rumors 272 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: about that happening. How does this president still negotiate with 273 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, who is in the minority, who has shown 274 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: himself to be a bad faith actor. When you hear 275 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: when the people who aren't paying attention all the time, 276 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: and so they have two clips, mark, they have the 277 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: clip of the Supreme Court saying women and people with 278 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: uter says you no longer have bodily autonomy. Boom, that's 279 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: one clip. Then they got another clip where you hear 280 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: that the President of the United States is negotiating with 281 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: the man that stole two Supreme Court seats. Mitch McConnell 282 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: didn't ask to negotiate with a damned person during the 283 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: Obama administration. As a matter of fact, he said, I'm 284 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: going to make you a one term president and then 285 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: set it again to Joe Biden. Joe Biden's response to 286 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: that is negotiation and saying that Mitch McConnell is a 287 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: rational Republican. So if I'm a person that is not 288 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: readily paying attention every day because I'm struggling to put 289 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: gas in my tank and food on my table and 290 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: medicine in my medicine chest, then how is it that 291 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: this Democratic Party thinks that they are going to win? Right? 292 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: They keep saying, well, we're going to concentrate on kitchen 293 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: table issues, and I said, well, I said this the 294 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: other day on MSNBC. There is no other kitchen table 295 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: issue than the strength of our democracy and then the 296 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: ability to actually have set people around the kitchen table, 297 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: because the kitchen table is about economy. And if people 298 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: are being forced out of the workplace because they're being 299 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: forced to birth children that they cannot afford and do 300 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: not want, how is that not a kitchen table issue. 301 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: How is not something that you are willing to stand 302 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: up forcefully, even if it's in words only. But to 303 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: your point, exhaust every avenue. Yeah, those those are valid points. 304 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: And again, you know, I think that the structure in 305 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: the White House is may very well be be failing 306 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Here's an opportunity that I think that they're missing. 307 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 1: Though the party in power power, the party in power 308 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: always loses in the midterms. The opportunity that I think 309 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: the consultant class which is running the White House is 310 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: missing is that Democrats aren't the party in power. Even 311 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: though Democrats hold the White House and both houses, we're 312 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: the ones taking all the hits. The power is coming 313 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: from Republicans controlling the filibuster, with the help of Mansion 314 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: in cinema, and from the Supreme Court. So if people 315 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: are more motivated in the mid terms because they're in 316 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: the opposition, then you know, it may it may cause 317 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: some people to put their pride aside. But maybe Democrats 318 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: need to make it clear in the message. You know, 319 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: we even though we got the White House, we are 320 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: the party still in opposition. We're the opposition party because 321 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: everything is happening over and above us. What Supreme Court 322 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: did that last week was devastating. They just they flurried 323 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: on the public miranda, state gun laws, the EPA. No, 324 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: you're not in power. We are not in power, and 325 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: so we should act like that rather than act as if, well, 326 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: because Joe Biden's a president, we're in power, we might 327 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: lose some of the midterms. That's not right being in power. 328 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: It's not just what's on paper, but what's real. And 329 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: some of those conversations I've been having on my show 330 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: really ought to go to that mobilizing people understand. You know, folks, 331 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: we I know what this looks like, but it really 332 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: ain't what it seems to be. And how do you expect? 333 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: But I think that that is such that is such 334 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: a valid point mark and one that I will say 335 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: that I have not been thinking about because they may 336 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: have quote unquote Democrats may have control of these chambers, 337 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: but they actually do not have the power. But if 338 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: by perception, we have always been told, right, we've always 339 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: been told that you need to vote because the president 340 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: is the leader of the free world, that the president 341 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: is the one that can do this, that and the 342 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: other thing. And then we're remembering what Donald Trump was 343 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: able to do right, and we say, well, wait a minute, 344 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: why did he have such outsized power in that same position? 345 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: And yet we have a democratic president now that's saying, oh, 346 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't have any power. Don't remember Donald Trump ever 347 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: saying that. I don't remember when Mitch McConnell, now being 348 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: in the minority, has said that. So how do we 349 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: message that to people to understand the difference between power 350 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: and control? That's what I'm hearing you say, Well, I 351 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: think we just have to speak directly as to what 352 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: the facts are that we suffered a tremendous setback when 353 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was elected president, and now we actually have 354 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: one a Senate with a rule, a Senate that supported 355 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: him fully implementing a rule that prevents the Democrats from 356 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: governing or really preventing Congress from functioning, and a Supreme 357 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: Court appointed by someone who choked out one of his 358 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: Secret Service agents encourage people with arms to storm the Capitol. 359 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: That's the mentality, and I think people need to under 360 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: I think the January six Committee is doing a good job. 361 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: They brought in the right consultants all right in terms 362 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: of how to do it, and they didn't try to 363 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: do it all in one week. This is gonna be 364 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: spread out, you know, and you kind of need that 365 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: because it takes people a minute to take it all in. 366 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: It's probably gonna take another week or so more. That's 367 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: why they pushed the other one to next week for 368 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: people to recover from Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony. You know, Danielle, 369 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: in the movies, when somebody's driving, you grabbed the stairwheel, 370 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: they normally calls us the car to wreck. They should 371 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: just let the car rick grab him to a treat 372 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: or something, or they should have let him gone up there. 373 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: They're trying to save his Like if he had gone 374 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: up there with them people with them guys, they would 375 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: have been a cross fire and he probably might have 376 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: been shot. So now I think that I think that 377 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: in all the reason why they didn't let him go 378 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: up there is because there's save in their own asses. 379 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: That's why you have uh sipolone getting ready to testify, 380 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: uh this that the testimony is happening. I think it's 381 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: happening uh this week and then we have the hearing 382 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: next week, so we'll hear what it is that he said. 383 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: And why is he testifying? Because Cassidy dropped more bombs 384 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: than I think that we have seen as of yet 385 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: come out of this administration. And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. 386 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it was so much. I know that 387 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: their job is to protect the physical body of the 388 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: president and protect like the White House, But they were 389 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: protecting their own asses when they didn't allow that man 390 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: to go there, because, as he said, they're not here 391 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: to hurt me, which was just I mean, the President 392 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: of the United States saying that let him in. They're 393 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: not here. They didn't bring guns to kill me, right, 394 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: is an admission that they here to kill somebody, to 395 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: hurt somebody. They're just not here to harm me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, 396 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: I just I literally, man, I mean the secret. I mean, 397 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: once you've done your job and said you can't go 398 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: up here and he overrules, just let him go, y'all, 399 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: don't go. Don't I'm not going. I got COVID, I'm 400 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: out you topyboy, yourself a knock yourself out, um and 401 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: so uh. And you know he would have. He probably 402 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: would enjoy going down to blaze of glory, be a 403 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: martyrn all that. But but the thing is, I think 404 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: that there has to be more of a motivating message. 405 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: I think that those who normally are mobilizing and organizing 406 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: too in a normal election year to get voters out 407 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: are a little bit stymy because they don't get it. 408 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: I think they even underestimated this whole Brittney Grinder's name, 409 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's gaining more momentum. Yeah, what is 410 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: the black elector it's supposed to think you can't do nothing. 411 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: You you can't do anything anywhere, And it takes it's 412 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: a lot of pride for a president to mean, you 413 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: know, no no, I really can't do that. Donald Trump messed 414 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: it up so much and the way they got these 415 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: things red God can't do anything. But even that mark, 416 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: even that would be a better message than what is 417 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: coming out right now, because once again he would be 418 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: able to they would be able to transfer the blame 419 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: on where the blame should actually be. Our economy is 420 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: so fucked up because of these three things that the 421 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: former president did. Our country is strife with bullets and 422 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: you're fearing for your life in public spaces because of 423 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: the three Supreme Court justices that the last president and 424 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: the Republican Party were able to jam through That's what 425 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about in terms of you take these tragic 426 00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: moments that we are having Jalen Walker, right being shot 427 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: sixty goddamn times, but a silent the mass murderer being 428 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: taken alive, alive so much so we're getting a medical 429 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: examination and we're wondering about who raised him, right, But 430 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Jaylen Walker's family is trying to figure out how we 431 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 1: can't have an open casket because his body is no 432 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: longer in its fault, in its form. So it's just like, 433 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: where is the reaction that meets the moment of greed? 434 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: Like he wanted to be the comforter in chief, right 435 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: in order to comfort people. You're a reverend, don't you 436 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: have to be able to share in their pain and 437 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: articulate it in a way that allows them to feel 438 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: seen and hurt. Yeah, I think so, But he's I mean, 439 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: but Joe Ban's not a reverend. Truthfully, I think that 440 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: they've got to find some way to communicate and mobilize people. 441 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: I believe that, you know, they've also painted themselves into 442 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: a corner by marginalizing, marginalizing the vice president, So you know, 443 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: it's almost a day laying the dollars short to to 444 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: trot her out. Now, that's what they're going to do, 445 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: and they better figure something out. And there are those 446 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: even in Congress who are having the same conversation we're having. There. 447 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: There is a a messaging problem, and I think the 448 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: vice the White House is getting is to engage as 449 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: softly and as little as possible. But that may not 450 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: be the way to go. And I don't know that 451 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: it's the January six hearings alone are what is going 452 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: to mobilize people to the polls that that's going to 453 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: just be able to do it. Some of these other 454 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,239 Speaker 1: things have got to happen. Now, I will say this, 455 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: there is an onus that falls. So there are two 456 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: demographics that decide elections these days, the black electorate led 457 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: by black women, and the other demographic is suburban, college 458 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: educated white women. What are they going to do? So 459 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: here's the thing, the real problem, the reason we're in 460 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: this fix is because of them. He voted for Donald Trump. 461 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: Nobody really believed like Susan Collins and yeah, going to 462 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: get there, that's what she said. And they believe in 463 00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: what you're like, my Susan Collins impersonal Um, So what 464 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna do. Now, this shouldn't even be a question. 465 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: If we do what we do as an electorate and 466 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: turn out, and suburban college gets educated white women do 467 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: what they need to do and turn out, this is 468 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: not a problem. But it really boils down as to 469 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: how much that's ladder demographics, suburban college educated white whether 470 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna do what they're supposed to do, whether they're 471 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: going to stand up for their own bodily autonomy or 472 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: just give in. We will definitely find out what this 473 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: country is made up. And and the White House may 474 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: just be betting on that. There people might be saying, 475 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: you know what, you can't do nothing anyway, just sit down, 476 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: be quiet, let's just see what happens. I think that's 477 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: a dangerous gamble. But to some extent, we're going to 478 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: find out what America is really really made We did 479 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: we saved the country and right women from Royal Moore. 480 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: We tried to save the country as a black electorate, 481 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: black women in particular from Donald Trump. And so now 482 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: it really boils down to what they're gonna do. And 483 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: that ball is in is in white women's court. I mean, 484 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, if the ball is in white women's court, 485 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: then I think that I should dust off my passport 486 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: because historically speaking, uh, they will always vote and I'm 487 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: particularly I'm talking about white sis, Hetero Christian suburban women 488 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: will vote how they have always voted, which is alongside 489 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: their Republican husbands and partners. And they got it right 490 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. So they don't always do that, I mean, 491 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: and they increased their voting for Donald Trump. You know, 492 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: I just I don't. I will always trust black women 493 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: to do what black women have done since the beginning 494 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: of the beginning of time, which is show up if 495 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: we are put placing a gamble, which we are, which 496 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: we often do, because this is who both parties court. 497 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: Is that of the empathy and the rage and urgency 498 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: of white women. Well you know that usually lasts probably 499 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: about as long as a summer vacation here in America, 500 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: and then they move on to something else. And so 501 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 1: without the continued messaging and beating of that drum of 502 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: the place of urgency and the compounded crises that we 503 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: are in and who is actually to blame for where 504 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: we are right now, and then why it is that 505 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: we need your vote, Because that was the thing that 506 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: Alexandriro Cassio Cortez had said representative she said, we need 507 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: to tell people why they are voting for us, not 508 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: just to vote for us right, and what numbers we 509 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: need and not just to show up in mass And 510 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: I think that those details are often left behind. But Mark, 511 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: as always, I appreciate your time, your energy, the work 512 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: that you continue to do going to Washington on a 513 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: regular basis, working with Reverend Barber and others in order 514 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: to lift up our voices. I can't thank you enough. 515 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: And we will pick this up next month and see 516 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: exactly where where we land and where we are. Hey man, 517 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: thank you, Daniel. Always a pleasure to be with you. 518 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: God bless you. Appreciate you. Hey there, I want to 519 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: tell you about another podcast I think you'll love. 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That is 529 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: it for me today, Dear friends, on this woke a 530 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: f let me say that I wish for you all 531 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: a RESTful weekend. Please unplug, please disconnect, Please find some joy. 532 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: Please stand in the sun, put your feet in the grass, 533 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: take in the air. Spend time with people who fill 534 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: your heart, so that you are able to continue fighting, 535 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: so that you're able to continue sharing, so that you're 536 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: able to continue in conversation, because it's needed now more 537 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: than ever. As always, dear friends, Power to the people 538 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: and to all the people. Power, get woke and stay 539 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: woke as fuck.