Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black
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Speaker 1: back to another edition of All the Smoke out here
Speaker 1: making our New York run. We got a good one today, Jack,
Speaker 1: This has been a Detroit game. Come on, gonna do something.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The biggest star in the
Speaker 1: world right now, I love brother. Somebody we happy to see.
Speaker 1: Winnie appreciate Welcome. No, I gotta say it, okay, but
Speaker 1: ain't too many people ever out jewelry Jack on that couch.
Speaker 1: He definitely got out there with today, my young boy.
Speaker 1: You know the ones keep us going to keep yeah, man, um,
Speaker 1: let's get to it. Man, what's it been like for you? First?
Speaker 1: Is a pleasure to be able to legends appreciated. Has
Speaker 1: been great. You know, I get a chance to see
Speaker 1: my family story on TV right now, and I get
Speaker 1: a chance for the world to actually get the reaction.
Speaker 1: My dad is loving, my family loving it. I'm loving
Speaker 1: the acting world. It was amazing. You know, we was
Speaker 1: talking about this while we was downstairs. But you know,
Speaker 1: with all due respects to your whole cast, they're acting
Speaker 1: and they're doing a great job. You're acting, but you're
Speaker 1: representing your your your legacy, your last name, your family,
Speaker 1: your pops wanted to speak up. So it's different for you.
Speaker 1: Explain how it hit different for you. Man, It's totally different.
Speaker 1: Like this is life for death. Always tell people just
Speaker 1: because this for me, it's like I would never I
Speaker 1: could never see nobody else get an opportunity to play
Speaker 1: my dad and me not doing it. You know, I
Speaker 1: can never miss that opportunity and and not do good enough.
Speaker 1: I feel like, oh, I love fifty to death for
Speaker 1: giving me the opportunity, but he loves me more than
Speaker 1: not that I showed him that I could do it,
Speaker 1: you know. And I showed him that, and my dad
Speaker 1: that like on the line when you get on the line,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm gonna do it, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bring it. And this is not something that just because
Speaker 1: me and my dad ain't lived the same lifestyle, Like
Speaker 1: I had real emotions, you know, and he got taken
Speaker 1: away from me, me and watching my mom go through it,
Speaker 1: watched my mom cried, watching the same people that my
Speaker 1: dad take care of not take care of my mama,
Speaker 1: not take care of us when he went away and
Speaker 1: fifty an't even know my daddy, so for him to
Speaker 1: come and do this is like the short type of
Speaker 1: person he is. And I couldn't let the opportunity passed me.
Speaker 1: But I not kill it. You know, I couldn't let
Speaker 1: nobody else to get to get my spot. You know,
Speaker 1: I had to show my daddy and show fifty that
Speaker 1: I'm the one and that it was in me. So
Speaker 1: I'm just glad out the world able to see that,
Speaker 1: and because now I'm gonna show the world that I
Speaker 1: not only can play my dad, I can play anybody.
Speaker 1: And that's for sure, and that's what fifty put me
Speaker 1: acting classes for me. You do not just to play
Speaker 1: my dad. You have to learn how to how to
Speaker 1: how to be a feather, wan to win, how to
Speaker 1: how to go anywhere the breeze wants you to go.
Speaker 1: I could play anybody, So but explain what he did.
Speaker 1: So explain how he put you, know, how he put
Speaker 1: you in acting classes. In the process, you took it
Speaker 1: and learned. And because you were telling us some real
Speaker 1: dope ship before just graduated high school, team my daddy
Speaker 1: called me. I went to you and l V wanted
Speaker 1: to try and he wanted me to try college. I
Speaker 1: want to do you and l V in Vegas just
Speaker 1: to try college. You know, I didn't really want to
Speaker 1: do it, so for sure, So listen, So I tried college, right.
Speaker 1: So so my uncle Rocket, my manager, he lives in Vegas.
Speaker 1: So that's why, you know, when I was out there,
Speaker 1: I was just really with him most of the time
Speaker 1: when I wasn't going to school and stuff. So one
Speaker 1: day were on his portion. He just asked me, like, man,
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do? Like, I know you don't want
Speaker 1: to go to college. What you're gonna do? And fifty
Speaker 1: had just you know, announced that he was coming out
Speaker 1: with the series or whatever, and he did tell my
Speaker 1: dad that he wanted me to play him. But you know,
Speaker 1: after I met him too, and he told me he
Speaker 1: called me I thought I met him in Atlanta, told
Speaker 1: me that he wanted me to get at the classes
Speaker 1: and play him. But it was up to me to
Speaker 1: take it serious, you know, because he couldn't just he
Speaker 1: although he wanted you, he couldn't just put you in life.
Speaker 1: He couldn't just he couldn't just give me the part.
Speaker 1: He couldn't just no matter how much he wanted me
Speaker 1: to play my dad, he can bring me to the table.
Speaker 1: But stars, the network, they have SAP, they have to
Speaker 1: step in, you know. So and it's better that way
Speaker 1: because I earned it, you know, it's not just somebody
Speaker 1: just giving me the job. So me doing that year
Speaker 1: and a half, it just I had to literally literally
Speaker 1: move from my my mom, my whole family in Miami,
Speaker 1: go to l A and focus at lockdown and not
Speaker 1: even talk to nobody for real or four year and
Speaker 1: a half because I had to find myself. Like at
Speaker 1: first when I started acting, it wasn't just gravy like
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, it was so easy for me
Speaker 1: and it just came like that. No, it was I
Speaker 1: didn't understand acting. Me and my uncle who was going
Speaker 1: to start for weeks and it was like ship, I
Speaker 1: don't know. He got to keep on trying. And to me,
Speaker 1: that's what made me go harder. I feel like, because
Speaker 1: I knew that it wasn't gonna be given to me
Speaker 1: because it no matter how how hard, even though I
Speaker 1: could have been good at stars might not even like me.
Speaker 1: Even if they might not even like how active, and
Speaker 1: and then they could have just hired somebody else, you know.
Speaker 1: So it was always that thought in the back of
Speaker 1: my head, like damn, I could get down to it
Speaker 1: and something couldn't not help me get the job just
Speaker 1: because of what you know, life is. But I really
Speaker 1: I feel like it changed me. It made me a
Speaker 1: better person because I found myself in this, you know,
Speaker 1: and that whole year and a half of me going
Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth just taught me that
Speaker 1: even though who my dad is, it don't matter who
Speaker 1: you is. You know, everybody still gotta earn it. You
Speaker 1: still gotta put in that work. And it really showed me,
Speaker 1: like what you do that that means you're meant to
Speaker 1: stick because it's not given to you earned it and
Speaker 1: it's gonna open up a lot more doors. But we'll
Speaker 1: get to that. Go ahead, Jack, Let's talk about your upbringing, upbringing.
Speaker 1: Where did you go up in? What was your habits?
Speaker 1: Did you like sported you into sports growing up? Yeall
Speaker 1: grew up in for a lot of jail, Florida, which
Speaker 1: is like twenty minutes from Miami. But I love sports.
Speaker 1: I played football in high school. All throughout high school
Speaker 1: and stuff. I was running back in line back, like
Speaker 1: I one nice song, I won nice like that. I
Speaker 1: was cool though. Yeah, I was better at I was
Speaker 1: better at defense for sure, but I really didn't like football.
Speaker 1: I really I liked it a little bit, but I
Speaker 1: didn't like going to practice. So it's like I was
Speaker 1: always doing a whole bunch of different things, you know,
Speaker 1: just trying a whole bunch of different things. But growing up,
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up in the streets. But it's like
Speaker 1: my mom. My mom's side of the family is from Miami.
Speaker 1: It's from for a lot of jail. They live in
Speaker 1: the hood. But it's like I only get to go
Speaker 1: over there, like every Sunday when I when it's like
Speaker 1: a whole family gathering or whatever. My mom go out
Speaker 1: of town. I live in the suburbs, you know, So
Speaker 1: it was different. I grew up in privlar school. I
Speaker 1: went to private school pre K through seventh grade and
Speaker 1: got kicked out when I started selling edibles. But it
Speaker 1: was different like then when I went to public schools,
Speaker 1: Like I got to be in that kind of hood
Speaker 1: life because now I don't have the whole strict policy
Speaker 1: that the public school got. I can leave school and
Speaker 1: I'm getting older. My mom fly that you're going back
Speaker 1: and forth. I really got a hold with your freedom
Speaker 1: so it's like I'm just going to school whenever I
Speaker 1: won't doing whatever I want. But I was still you know,
Speaker 1: still make your grace. But growing up was crazy because
Speaker 1: I still had that life, and then I had the
Speaker 1: glamorous life like my dad life. I get to go
Speaker 1: to Jessy concerts with him and pull up with him
Speaker 1: and go to all the rappers concerts. But I'm pulling
Speaker 1: up with them, and I'm going to the club fourteen
Speaker 1: fifteen years old and just the only one in the
Speaker 1: club that looked like he's not supposed to be in
Speaker 1: the club. So you know, it was different, Like I
Speaker 1: had a cool upbringing. Everybody think that, oh he just
Speaker 1: was you know, he had the old prestigious upbringing, silver
Speaker 1: spoon and all that. It wasn't like that, like my mom.
Speaker 1: I had to watch my mom waa go through it
Speaker 1: and work her job at Delta for us, like my
Speaker 1: daddy looked out for so many people. Ain't nobody really
Speaker 1: do shifting and like really do shift for my mom?
Speaker 1: Wont when he got locked up, and you know, you know,
Speaker 1: he was different that Dan, Like it wasn't like how
Speaker 1: everybody think it is. So how were you when your
Speaker 1: dad went to prison. I was six times seven because
Speaker 1: I remember I made my my dad was in the
Speaker 1: streets doing this thing. And I remember a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff at the young age, obviously not to the level
Speaker 1: what your dad was doing, But what do you remember
Speaker 1: about your upbringing and and when he was there? Man,
Speaker 1: every time I remember being my daddy, It's just like
Speaker 1: it was just fun. I remember having a cool last dad.
Speaker 1: Like I remember going to Jez video shoots. I remember
Speaker 1: he just put me in a in a passage, the
Speaker 1: seat of the Ferrari, the lamb or whatever. We just
Speaker 1: go riding around and he just me just being everywhere
Speaker 1: with him. He had me in the private jet him
Speaker 1: since I was able to walk like him. My mom
Speaker 1: us going to private jet Ruth Crystal the private jet already.
Speaker 1: I'll still remember that like and and like. I still
Speaker 1: remember the day my mama told me that, like basically
Speaker 1: he wasn't he went to jail, but he didn't. She
Speaker 1: wouldn't team tell me like that. She came in the
Speaker 1: room and told me like he wanted to work for
Speaker 1: a long time. And I didn't know what that meant
Speaker 1: until the next couple of months. She took me and
Speaker 1: he was behind the wall behind the glass, and I
Speaker 1: had to see him for that time. That's the only
Speaker 1: time I've ever seen my daddy emotional. Ever seeing my
Speaker 1: daddy cryes like I didn't even get to see no
Speaker 1: tear coming out of his face, but he just he
Speaker 1: just put his head down. I felt it, like it
Speaker 1: was crazy. I still remember a lot, you know. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like I was in the club then, like you know,
Speaker 1: like that, But I still remember my daddy coming home
Speaker 1: seven o'clock in the morning as I'm getting ready for
Speaker 1: school as my mom my mom getting ready for school.
Speaker 1: He still make me pancakes and and make me he's
Speaker 1: in bacon and make me spaghetty before I go to
Speaker 1: sleep and sh like that. Like I still remember all that.
Speaker 1: So it was different like him now and me talking
Speaker 1: to him now it's like I'm grown like so he
Speaker 1: he but I'm still a little boy to him because
Speaker 1: he his baby. Yeah I'm his baby, you know, and
Speaker 1: me whole acting thing like I feel like he got
Speaker 1: us closer to like you know, he was always talking
Speaker 1: to every day. Now it was different because he see
Speaker 1: I'm a man and I can handle my business. And
Speaker 1: I didn't just know no bullshit out here trying to
Speaker 1: be in his name. He was dad to you, obviously
Speaker 1: you knew a little bit about what he did. But
Speaker 1: when you found out your dad is like a legend,
Speaker 1: Like how is that portraying him? And you're doing a
Speaker 1: good job at when did you know my dad at
Speaker 1: big meat? I really didn't understand until like I start
Speaker 1: my teenage years, like I started read growing up in
Speaker 1: high school, and I'm hearing the rappers say his name
Speaker 1: the songs, and I'm going out and and I'm just
Speaker 1: running into all types of different people and they're telling
Speaker 1: me what my dad did for them because my family
Speaker 1: still wasn't telling me as I grew up, like they're
Speaker 1: not supposed to do that. They're not telling me none
Speaker 1: of that. So it's like it's I'm only find out
Speaker 1: how big he is from people I'm around, and and
Speaker 1: and and like stuff I see you on the Internet
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So it was different, like I
Speaker 1: grew up not know my dad was. Like I went
Speaker 1: to when I was in private school. I remember my
Speaker 1: homies showing me Wikipedia pages on my dad, Like you
Speaker 1: noticed your daddy, I'm like like that, like like for real,
Speaker 1: like I found out he was like that from private school,
Speaker 1: from somebody else showing me, So it was different. You know,
Speaker 1: let's talk I mean, let's talk about you know what
Speaker 1: your dad did, stepped at the game hip hop game
Speaker 1: in the early two thousand, did a lot of good stuff,
Speaker 1: did some stuff probably wasn't proud of. But what what
Speaker 1: are you proudest of your dad for? Because he did
Speaker 1: accomplish a lot. He ended up having to go sit
Speaker 1: down for a minute, but he did accomplish a lot,
Speaker 1: and he did do some good things. And like I said,
Speaker 1: with that came some other ship. But what are you
Speaker 1: most proud of your dad about? Man? I'm really most
Speaker 1: proud that, Like I get to running some people different
Speaker 1: people that don't even know him, and they'd be like, man,
Speaker 1: you daddy should scare me, Like your daddy is the
Speaker 1: reason my kids and college. Your daddy is the reason
Speaker 1: that I was able to buy my first car, Like
Speaker 1: I was sixteen seventeen on the Magic City and stripper
Speaker 1: coming up to me like, man, your daddy is the
Speaker 1: reason that I got this and my son went through college.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy, like just hearing that, like, you know,
Speaker 1: because a lot of a lot of people like that
Speaker 1: just don't they that generous to people? You know? And
Speaker 1: I just I run into all types of different people
Speaker 1: that just say crazy ship that you would even expect,
Speaker 1: And I'll be like, damn, Like, even though he was
Speaker 1: that big and he did all that, he ain't never
Speaker 1: like no type of way. Like That's why I can
Speaker 1: never myself act like that, Like because I see how
Speaker 1: how he is, you know, and he always that's one
Speaker 1: thing you're talking to me about. That's why he's so blessed.
Speaker 1: I feel like, even though he in jail, you know,
Speaker 1: we're still blessed because he the type of character he is,
Speaker 1: the type of character he has typing man, he is,
Speaker 1: like he always telled me, you always treat everybody the same.
Speaker 1: You'll never treat nobody different. What are you're working at,
Speaker 1: how they look or something like that. Like, so your
Speaker 1: dad is a legend in one avenue. You have a
Speaker 1: chance if you put the work in to start building
Speaker 1: your own resid thing and reach probably highs higher than
Speaker 1: your dad, even God, at what do you think about
Speaker 1: the process, because you know you're already talking we was
Speaker 1: talking downstairs about how you know some of the bullshit
Speaker 1: you're already running in through and but understanding that this
Speaker 1: is no really different. I mean, you stay away from
Speaker 1: the second ship and acting, you stay away from the
Speaker 1: second ship on the streets. So what is it like
Speaker 1: man kind of climbing this acting? Poule. I go through
Speaker 1: this like just like I will go through anything else,
Speaker 1: because even though it's different from any type of the business,
Speaker 1: it's teaching me away of life because at an early age,
Speaker 1: I already have to know how to talk to people,
Speaker 1: how to turn it on and off, you know, and
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people don't know how
Speaker 1: to separate that reality from their job, you know. So
Speaker 1: it's different and and me doing this now it helped
Speaker 1: me like open my eyes up and different and see
Speaker 1: different things, you know, different ways. So it's really like
Speaker 1: the acting, it's different, you know. I definitely didn't music
Speaker 1: and any other thing because the people like that you
Speaker 1: run into it's not just you know, like it's not
Speaker 1: just that, like you know what I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: it's no, I get it. Yeah, Jack, I don't want
Speaker 1: to leave you hanging. What was your meat story? I
Speaker 1: know because you said you've seen it first, pen, Can
Speaker 1: you share your story? Yeah, I'm looking at me, look
Speaker 1: at the smiles like great memories, Great memories. Ship. I
Speaker 1: was the Ship at the time as well. Uh, Magic
Speaker 1: said the strip was actually throwing me, throwing me a
Speaker 1: birthday party, actually playing for the Hawks around that time.
Speaker 1: I was twenteen four. Is this when your jersey was
Speaker 1: already hanging on the wall in there? So when I
Speaker 1: walked in there, when I walked in the club, they
Speaker 1: had my jersey hung up on the wall. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. With a buffet in the middle of match.
Speaker 1: This in the middle of matches. So the buffet in
Speaker 1: the middle of match, right, the og India, y'all, the
Speaker 1: rest of y'all sugar and out, y'all all the homes
Speaker 1: and uh so that happened, and uh while I'm in
Speaker 1: the you know, getting to draw myself. Oh it really
Speaker 1: ain't no alcohol left because Memsa came then they didn't
Speaker 1: bought all the champagne, all the back everything. Right, So
Speaker 1: he comes over there and hands me about a couple
Speaker 1: of bulls of champagne. Say, look, I don't know who
Speaker 1: you are, but you have to be somebody for the
Speaker 1: strip is to be throwing you on birthday party. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? I met him that night. He
Speaker 1: was he was you know, everything that people say about him.
Speaker 1: He was that and all. He walked in the club
Speaker 1: show and everybody loved took care of me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, you know, he's definitely a legend
Speaker 1: of mind. But who's the only mothercker to have his
Speaker 1: jersey on the wall in the strip club? Huh? Who
Speaker 1: the only person to have their jersey on the wall
Speaker 1: on the strip club? I think? Yeah, but I got
Speaker 1: my ship, got retired in by three states, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So yeah, but but they I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I was a strip club assassin, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying for real at one point. Yeah. But but around
Speaker 1: that time in Atlanta, though, what they the the way
Speaker 1: they moved there's never been seen before, and I don't
Speaker 1: think it could ever be duplicated, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because not only was it flamboyant, but it was all love.
Speaker 1: There was a family, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: wasn't just one person, it was all of them looking
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, And that's what attracted
Speaker 1: to so many people across the world has seen him
Speaker 1: and Niggers from all over different hoods because that's what
Speaker 1: they wanted to be, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: around the way, everybody fell in love with him. So
Speaker 1: how did you feel when you got the phone call
Speaker 1: from your dad that fifty is going to tell this
Speaker 1: story and you could possibly get the opportunity to play him. Man?
Speaker 1: You know the fame thing is when my daddy first
Speaker 1: told me, he was like, and I ain't last us.
Speaker 1: I do want you to play me, but I don't
Speaker 1: know what you can act. And I'm h it was
Speaker 1: some real ship like but it was crazy like because
Speaker 1: he was dead as serious, like he wasn't playing. He
Speaker 1: was like, you know, not just I'm not just gonna
Speaker 1: give you this between you just give me my son.
Speaker 1: He was the same way. He was like, you better
Speaker 1: showed me that you could earn it. So it was
Speaker 1: different Like when I first got the call, I didn't
Speaker 1: understand what acting was. Like, I'm thinking it's just saying
Speaker 1: lines until I get the class and it's my teacher
Speaker 1: telling me to imagine my MoMA and daddy in the
Speaker 1: casket and I'm like this, yeah, so this was acting
Speaker 1: really is. So it was just different like from me
Speaker 1: getting that first phone call from him, and and and
Speaker 1: then going to set, and it was two totally different things,
Speaker 1: and it was crazy. Man, you had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: this role has led to other opportunities. You're doing something
Speaker 1: with for you. I just did after I don't finished BMF.
Speaker 1: I had got the call from my agency. He wanted
Speaker 1: me the audition for you, for you, And it was
Speaker 1: crazy because I love that show already. You know, HBO
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of good shows as the day
Speaker 1: was already remanominated actress. She's dope, She's too dope. So
Speaker 1: I got actually got the chance to produce scenes with
Speaker 1: her and do scenes with Hunter Strafer and everybody else.
Speaker 1: But that show is amazing and it's a whole another
Speaker 1: different side of me. I get to show people like
Speaker 1: that my range, like not just yea yeah for sure,
Speaker 1: you know. So it just shows people hold up a
Speaker 1: different side of each, like it's not the same each
Speaker 1: that You're gonna see you on BMF. You know you're
Speaker 1: an actor, right for sure? That's what's up. Anything else
Speaker 1: you can tell us about outside of that, you're working
Speaker 1: on any other projects. I did a movie with Machine
Speaker 1: Gun Kelly and making Fox too actually after I Did
Speaker 1: You for You, that's gonna be coming out soon, and
Speaker 1: I got a couple of other big things in the
Speaker 1: works right now, and I'm working on you know, me
Speaker 1: and Fifty always got something from me. Fifty actually made
Speaker 1: sure I got his same agents, Like he put me
Speaker 1: with his agency, so me and him got the same agent.
Speaker 1: So whatever movie you want to put me on, he
Speaker 1: just put me on. Like that's so much, really is
Speaker 1: you know? It's love that wing to put you in
Speaker 1: Free agents on Humboy Dion Taylor's producing definitely. How accurate
Speaker 1: do you or have you been told from family or
Speaker 1: people that you're actually playing your dad? My grandma loves it.
Speaker 1: She loves me and she she loves it. She feels
Speaker 1: like it's them all over again. She actually got to
Speaker 1: come and set, like we actually spent the weekend Detroit,
Speaker 1: and we actually got the film where my dad and
Speaker 1: uncle actually took their first steps and and actually walked,
Speaker 1: you know, so it was different. She was on set
Speaker 1: and still remember like being there and she just was
Speaker 1: telling me all the time like it felt so real
Speaker 1: to her. But everybody else loves it, you know, my dad,
Speaker 1: brother and my dad's sister. Everybody has. That's a part
Speaker 1: of it. They loved it. They're so proud that because
Speaker 1: fifty did right. You know, he ain't just do it
Speaker 1: how anybody else would do it, you know, and just
Speaker 1: not involved the family for real and do how did
Speaker 1: you tell her? How they want to tell Fifty made
Speaker 1: sure that everybody was involved, made sure that my dad
Speaker 1: talked to the writers even from prison, make sure that
Speaker 1: everything was told correctly how he wanted it to be told.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people on me, a lot
Speaker 1: of people like that in this world of jam and
Speaker 1: I really want to just tell the story how how
Speaker 1: you want to be told, because Fifthy comes from that
Speaker 1: life though, you know, so now that he has his
Speaker 1: foot in the other space and the the same ship
Speaker 1: we're trying to do now that we have our foot
Speaker 1: in certain spaces, like we gotta let the real people
Speaker 1: in to really portray us because other people have always
Speaker 1: try to tell our stories. Now we're able to tell
Speaker 1: our own state. Um at that point, talk to us
Speaker 1: about how important fifty been in your life. That's as
Speaker 1: a mentor, you know, a brother and kind of showing
Speaker 1: you the ropes because to me, he's the hottest person
Speaker 1: in TV right now. For sure, he's a genius dominate.
Speaker 1: Me and fifty talk almost every day, and he's literally
Speaker 1: like my best friend, big brother slash other dad, because
Speaker 1: he literally like gives me so much game on all
Speaker 1: works of life, on everything, not even just the business.
Speaker 1: He just called me just to make sure I'm good mentally,
Speaker 1: and he makes sure that I understand this before I
Speaker 1: just jumped out into it. You know. That's why he
Speaker 1: put me acting classes and put his own money up
Speaker 1: from me, you know, to learn how to act before
Speaker 1: I can even you know, learn how to play my dad.
Speaker 1: I to learn how to act. So me and him
Speaker 1: got a relationship where it's not like on a business
Speaker 1: ship like he called me just to make sure I'm good.
Speaker 1: I called him just to make sure he good. That's
Speaker 1: more important than anything for sure. So you know, he
Speaker 1: really he really gave me so much game. It's like
Speaker 1: you can never hear enough from fifty. He's a legend
Speaker 1: in music, he's a legend of film. So it's like
Speaker 1: hasn't he done street legends? Yeah, he got twenty something
Speaker 1: TV shows on on television. That's not I've never even
Speaker 1: heard of. Nobody has ever done that. Same shout out fifty,
Speaker 1: but I think we might have a real way to
Speaker 1: finally get that out. Just about to say that, y'all
Speaker 1: was talking, I'm you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm always kind of thank yourself. And when y'all was
Speaker 1: putting together because normally we asked at the end of shry,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, right now, this is our connect right,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be to connect. PMC was still living, we
Speaker 1: would have had him because that I was going to connect.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's connecting. Come on now, but congratulations, you
Speaker 1: got signed up for season two right already? Like, okay,
Speaker 1: so you got shooting the letter? Yeah, said want to
Speaker 1: come be an extract. Y'all need every y'all know I
Speaker 1: pull up. You know that to me too? Now come
Speaker 1: on right me too. Now, Hey, Jack could definitely be
Speaker 1: an extra season two fifty Jack somebody he could act too.
Speaker 1: You saw it with Kevin Harts had to him, um
Speaker 1: anything obviously you can't tell us, But I mean season
Speaker 1: one with the finale of season one is coming out
Speaker 1: on the one. Any hints season two it's gonna get hotter. Oh,
Speaker 1: you gotta know it's hotter than just because I mean
Speaker 1: my daddy and being enough brand for like twenty some years,
Speaker 1: so so much to talk about, so many different things
Speaker 1: to talk about, like they had a whole error their
Speaker 1: American history, so we can go on for twenty seasons.
Speaker 1: I just can't wait till Lamar die. I want to
Speaker 1: kill him in real life, Like I want to find
Speaker 1: a character and kill him because I've got two into
Speaker 1: the show. I wanted to kill Lamar. Ass so crazy.
Speaker 1: Every time somebody see that's the first thing they say
Speaker 1: when Lamar gonna die, I want to kill him. Hey
Speaker 1: for that men, and he's doing a good job though
Speaker 1: he's doing a great job. That's you know, would be
Speaker 1: tripping me out is when you hear these dudes talking,
Speaker 1: they got these accents. Yeah, like with him and to
Speaker 1: do from Snowfall. I'm like, because people if people don't
Speaker 1: understand that Kofe, Eric Kofe, like he really from London, right,
Speaker 1: don't talk like that doing a great job. He's amazing.
Speaker 1: He don't even talk like that. Dude, like you know
Speaker 1: how to turn it off? So good? It engl was
Speaker 1: too good. So we have the internet recently, you can't
Speaker 1: stop doing Yeah, everybody, everybody, we had Wood Harris on
Speaker 1: the show. Uh yeah, not too long ago, and you
Speaker 1: might you might be too young to really know. How
Speaker 1: have you told nephew how dope Wood Harris is and
Speaker 1: the legend he is and the thing you know a
Speaker 1: little you don't know how dope he is? Hush, I
Speaker 1: know the movies full but I see that. That's why
Speaker 1: I told him I first seen him, like, damn, is
Speaker 1: an amazing do a scene with you? Like working with
Speaker 1: you know? He cool man? I mean still talk, that's
Speaker 1: still something like for real? Now, what is it good do?
Speaker 1: He's authentically him. What you see is what you get
Speaker 1: with him. He ain't trying to be nothing. He not,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's what I love about Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will yeah. We we literally just had him on
Speaker 1: the show, and I was just thinking, like, that's that's
Speaker 1: something good to sell game up from two because he's literally,
Speaker 1: to me, one of the most underrated actors of our generation,
Speaker 1: right been grateful show, that's what one of my favorite actors.
Speaker 1: You know, I love paying food. I watched that all
Speaker 1: the time. But all that you want to cover double
Speaker 1: XIL with Fifth and the few cast members of Power,
Speaker 1: What did that Mama, feel like you did you ever
Speaker 1: see being going something doing so well? Of course she's
Speaker 1: supposed to say you do, because you know, we don't
Speaker 1: think we're gonna sunk up and nothing. We think we're
Speaker 1: good everything, right, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, like I never really to see of course,
Speaker 1: can see it going this far until I started acting,
Speaker 1: until I started realizing now I could take my dad
Speaker 1: to a whole another different side of business, a different
Speaker 1: side of life, just from me being in the film business.
Speaker 1: You know, he could he want to be a direct
Speaker 1: the producer one day, but just now this legitimate business
Speaker 1: is it's like someone of a con so like, you know,
Speaker 1: it felt big, and it just it felt amazing because
Speaker 1: now I could take care of him when he come home.
Speaker 1: You know, I could really could put him in position,
Speaker 1: you know, and and start our own right the right
Speaker 1: way to start own BMF Entertainment. You know your story
Speaker 1: exactly what the stuff that he wanted to do though,
Speaker 1: That's exactly that's all he wanted to do, you know,
Speaker 1: sign his own writers and producers and make his own
Speaker 1: entertainment label. I mean, that's that's that's gonna happen. So
Speaker 1: with that said, is there any is there a release
Speaker 1: date for Posh? For sure? You know it's always longs
Speaker 1: getting passed, you know, all the time. So for sure,
Speaker 1: within a few years he should be home. You know,
Speaker 1: just like your brother just came home, so off his
Speaker 1: teeth shout. Yeah, he just came home from a law
Speaker 1: of just got passed. But it's always different laws get passed.
Speaker 1: But he don't got that much time left you Okay,
Speaker 1: obviously you got your foot in television with with your
Speaker 1: show and in Euphoria, chance to do movies. What is
Speaker 1: your I mean, I know you're young, but what is
Speaker 1: your goal in this space? One thing I really want
Speaker 1: to do. It showed the young generation, my generation, like
Speaker 1: the ones that's trying to follow their dreams and the
Speaker 1: ones that's you know that that might got incarcerated families,
Speaker 1: that it can be done, like just follow your dreams
Speaker 1: and just go whatever you want to do in life.
Speaker 1: Because a lot of times, you know, we have a
Speaker 1: little self esteem, you know, just from a lot of
Speaker 1: family members might not seem like they love us. We
Speaker 1: might have seen how we're getting love or whatever, and
Speaker 1: just life itself, you know, So I feel like people
Speaker 1: just need to understand that they can do whatever they
Speaker 1: want to do. Because I had no idea of ever
Speaker 1: being an actor of life. And when it came to me,
Speaker 1: all I had to do was put my mind to
Speaker 1: it and and really want to do it. And I
Speaker 1: learned how to do it because even when in the beginning,
Speaker 1: when it seemed like it was harder and impossible, I
Speaker 1: still knew that like I was gonna do it because
Speaker 1: I couldn't. At the end of the day, I couldn't
Speaker 1: let nobody else get it out said, That's why I
Speaker 1: really want to do though. Definitely talk to the young generation,
Speaker 1: you know, talk to the kids I got incarcerated families,
Speaker 1: and just you know, just help out any any way
Speaker 1: I can. Yeah, I got to get back. You have
Speaker 1: tattoos on both thones. Which one of them was first?
Speaker 1: And why in any news you want, I love tattoos.
Speaker 1: My daddy was first, you know. Of course I got
Speaker 1: him first. You know, I got blood makes you related, lords,
Speaker 1: he makes your family here the first one tell me that.
Speaker 1: So I had to get that man. I got his face,
Speaker 1: and I got him and my mom of course, the
Speaker 1: my backbones and my mom and I got Boston Ball Boston.
Speaker 1: I got so many tattoos. I got just to be
Speaker 1: in that tattoo just like him. He told me to
Speaker 1: get it. Hm, I got being met for here definitelyfore
Speaker 1: I got being So I'm pretty sure your parents made
Speaker 1: the most. For sure, my parents made the most for Shore.
Speaker 1: My mom, you know, as I said, she was my
Speaker 1: mom and dad. You know, she had to be but
Speaker 1: my dad was still you know, talking to me whenever
Speaker 1: every day, but it was she had to be mom
Speaker 1: and that physically she was there making sure that was
Speaker 1: good and making sure I stay about the bullshit, making
Speaker 1: sure I still went to school and did school and
Speaker 1: did what I had to do. So she was you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love him death. So obviously what's your dad created
Speaker 1: with BMF. It'll always be in the history books, but
Speaker 1: you're actually representing it now. So what is the message
Speaker 1: for BEMF right now? And what you know, kind of
Speaker 1: positive direction are you staring into? We all positive? You know,
Speaker 1: just now just you Just like I said, we really
Speaker 1: want to start, you know, our own I'm already starting
Speaker 1: it the BMF Entertainment Label, and we're gonna sign our
Speaker 1: own artists and actors and athletes. My manager Rocket he
Speaker 1: already got a bunch of him under our built, so
Speaker 1: we're just doing well. It's a whole other way of license.
Speaker 1: Don't just be the chilling. You've got to be the
Speaker 1: owner too, for sure. And that's what fifty always give
Speaker 1: me a game about, like just the business part of
Speaker 1: the things, you know, because he's a walking money man.
Speaker 1: You know, fifty is a killer man for real, for shure.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sure everything set up. And you
Speaker 1: gotta think too. You gotta start a lot younger than
Speaker 1: all of us, did you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: fifty is I mean fifty minute and for a minute,
Speaker 1: but like to really get game from him and started
Speaker 1: at your age and learn the business side of it,
Speaker 1: because most people got to come up as talent for
Speaker 1: a minute, establish yourself, pay your dues. But you're getting
Speaker 1: game from someone that teach you from the very beginning.
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna be an owner on what you're doing
Speaker 1: too the best. Right that's it's still be sucking me up.
Speaker 1: How real he is. How nig just called me and
Speaker 1: just talk to me for two hours on the phone.
Speaker 1: Nobody don't do what you do like Nigga FaceTime me whatever,
Speaker 1: talking to me for two hours, like just won't get
Speaker 1: off the phone, or time I want to get off
Speaker 1: the phone, Like you can't find people like that. That's
Speaker 1: only I feel like that. I'll just be like damn
Speaker 1: lucky right for for real, because you ain't you know, Jack,
Speaker 1: you got a good point earlier, right like all this
Speaker 1: good stuff is happening to them for all the like
Speaker 1: And I mean that's it makes all the sense to
Speaker 1: me because like when you go when you grow up
Speaker 1: street in the street life, a lot of things happen,
Speaker 1: but you know the heart of the people you're around
Speaker 1: in your family. And like I said, Big MEAs done
Speaker 1: so much for so many people, even though he in
Speaker 1: a predicament he's in right now. The blessing I come
Speaker 1: out of it is what's happening to his son. So
Speaker 1: all the good he's done was for a reason. It
Speaker 1: wasn't for not you know what I'm saying, And and
Speaker 1: and some things that he's done he had to do
Speaker 1: for his for his family. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, the benefit of it it comes through his child.
Speaker 1: And that's been And now I think any father or
Speaker 1: any parents, like you pay your dudes for your kids.
Speaker 1: You go you gotta do for your kids so they
Speaker 1: can just say they don't have to go through the
Speaker 1: things that you go through. You know what easier for
Speaker 1: this is the American dream. I feel like like my
Speaker 1: daddy did everything he did so I could end up
Speaker 1: here in a position now I'm able to take care
Speaker 1: of her, and you got the torch for sure. It's
Speaker 1: one of the life time you know. So I'm just
Speaker 1: glad I'm able to do it, and I'm gonna sure
Speaker 1: everybody have to do it right though. I love it.
Speaker 1: You know you're cool with all young rappers, little Baby Kode,
Speaker 1: that Black, all of them for the two dogs I
Speaker 1: say you in this video. Recently, he planned on dropping
Speaker 1: some music song. No, I ain't doing music. I was
Speaker 1: that I was trying music before I started acting. But
Speaker 1: go with your move. It wasn't nothing. I really love like.
Speaker 1: I didn't like being in the studio thinking about what
Speaker 1: I had to say, and I like being on set.
Speaker 1: I like acting, like showing people what you love like
Speaker 1: that there definitely I love music here my dad music
Speaker 1: his like we love rap, love artists and all the
Speaker 1: homes you see me with. You know, y'all show love,
Speaker 1: show love to BMLA. I really with them, not even
Speaker 1: on the music ship, but you know, really on personal side,
Speaker 1: all right, for sure. A little baby. He always shout
Speaker 1: out my daddy and BMF shout out the little baby Helena.
Speaker 1: Yeah for too. Doug shout out the foot too. He
Speaker 1: always showing a little stood talk a little sports. Katie,
Speaker 1: Katie had just paid Katy. That's your team. Yeah we
Speaker 1: got a team. Yeah, the next one team because k
Speaker 1: that's my boy. Yeah, Katie, you know, but I definitely, um,
Speaker 1: I've been. My dad used to take me to the
Speaker 1: Heat game back in the way Wain and Shot was playing. Ok.
Speaker 1: We used to be a course. He's on course. I
Speaker 1: see the Heat game. That's the last time I've been
Speaker 1: to forward basketball game. It's um last song I'm seeing
Speaker 1: Katie when they had beat onto Coomber then about thirty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love basketball though. Quick Hitter's first thing to come
Speaker 1: to mind. Top three shows you've binge watched Squire games.
Speaker 1: I still didn't see you seen squid games. I can't
Speaker 1: watch this watch that's what everybody. I like. That's cool.
Speaker 1: I've been watched oz Are Netflix and y'all need to
Speaker 1: watch Malice in the Palace well, yeah, you need to
Speaker 1: check that out. Madison the Palace. Oh you y'all him
Speaker 1: y'all seeing you to told you show you watched the
Speaker 1: first thing when I stopped watching that actually watching which
Speaker 1: Madison Place? Yea, that's the broad I'm gonna watch that
Speaker 1: show if you can go into it with three artists
Speaker 1: or groups who would have been why past our present? Damn.
Speaker 1: I would definitely want to go onto it with with
Speaker 1: um death Row and with and them, just to see
Speaker 1: how both sides would be. And then I would want
Speaker 1: to go on too with Michael Jackson see just to
Speaker 1: see how just to see how that would be. You know,
Speaker 1: my my home is just telling me how because you
Speaker 1: know I don't be don't get cobjaction. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: really understand my homies is really I saw you got
Speaker 1: my Homi Metro woman that's Southside. They was both. I
Speaker 1: was talking to them. They was telling me how big
Speaker 1: michaeljection was, how he used to have people falling out
Speaker 1: at concerts and ship show. Many people are dying and everything.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Michael, touch his hand, he come out and
Speaker 1: show with glove or or a foot and they just
Speaker 1: fall out like crazy. I just that cold like the
Speaker 1: stone glove cane man, I couldn't believe her the curl
Speaker 1: before the fire hit it. I don't know how. I
Speaker 1: ain't really I really didn't understand how impactful Michael Jackson would.
Speaker 1: I can say like I didn't understand how the eighties
Speaker 1: that's what when we was little. But he I mean
Speaker 1: that was crazy though. Turn around on the bench and
Speaker 1: get the moon walking and then she passed out. He
Speaker 1: was getting sliding off or she just hit the flow.
Speaker 1: Michael was Cold. One album you could listen to on repeat,
Speaker 1: no skips, the Black album. Jay Z. Were getting a
Speaker 1: lot of jay Z past three two days. It's crazy
Speaker 1: too because I've been on Hope Heavy the less like
Speaker 1: two or three weeks Heavy Actor actress you'd like to
Speaker 1: work with at some point? Oh yeah, leing on DiCaprio,
Speaker 1: Denzel it's just Elba. He's hitting the top dogs. Robert
Speaker 1: de Niro, al Pacino, Joe Pesci too. For sure. If
Speaker 1: you could have one guest on our show, who would
Speaker 1: it be? For you asked it? You don't help for us,
Speaker 1: Get him on the show. Let me say him them
Speaker 1: on the show, him the biggest. Yeah, we need five
Speaker 1: on the show. Sick. You got to you heard it,
Speaker 1: I got, yes, appreciate you got we gotta give for
Speaker 1: you though. Yeah, holiday season, so we got the little
Speaker 1: man skate box for you. Keep your lisening trimmed up
Speaker 1: during the holiday season, man, I appreciate that. Yeah, no
Speaker 1: doubt man what I'm saying. I know if you know,
Speaker 1: you're a high bar right now and all the latest wanting,
Speaker 1: so you gotta make sure you take care of you know,
Speaker 1: some shaving clean. Tell was in the box though, you
Speaker 1: know you gotta you gotta shave a poor point. Don't
Speaker 1: make sure you don't have no nicks when you're shaving.
Speaker 1: That you got the ball, the order and that saying
Speaker 1: a whole little pack you don't want must yeah your
Speaker 1: checks like fresh gangsters talking about man skate Okay, right
Speaker 1: out man skate, Yes, sir. I want to wish everybody
Speaker 1: a happy thanks Giving. Best of luck to you man.
Speaker 1: You gotta a good head on your shows. I love
Speaker 1: talking like I was telling you youths like old. So
Speaker 1: I love because you're navigating this ship. I feel like
Speaker 1: you're gonna win and it's good to see when it
Speaker 1: starts and you know where you're gonna go after I
Speaker 1: didn't sing, what I didn't sing? What do you speak?
Speaker 1: Straight up? Man? Shout out to Little Meach for coming through.
Speaker 1: Best of luck, Make check out the premiere, check out
Speaker 1: the euphor you all the other shitty has going on.
Speaker 1: Anybody want to shout out? Shout out Pops Soon, shout
Speaker 1: out Fifty'll see you on this couch soon, come on,
Speaker 1: shout out the Flinty family. Shout out Yes, thank you
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