1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back, bright and early Thursday morning. 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: It is the Late Kick Extra podcast, having have you 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: long on? Josh Pate got a lot, a lot to 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: get through this morning, three lots, because one sometimes just 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: won't do. As you know, this is a mail bag format. 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: This is you ask it, this is I try and 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: answer it as best I can. You can hit me 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: at Josh Pate seven zero six at gmail dot com, 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: and you can hit me on Twitter at Late Kick Josh, 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: how are you? By the way, probably what I should 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: have led with. There's a whole lot going on. I 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: don't know, as I said the other day, if your 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: team may or may not be out of postseason contention 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: of any any consequence at least, and I don't know 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: if maybe you've been drifting a little bit, but I 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: would just strongly encourage you stay at the table. There's 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: so much going on right now. We're covering it as 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: best we can at twenty four to seven sports dot 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: com and I'm hitting as much as I can on Kick. 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: But really, you guys are doing a great job too. 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: It probably in some cases even better than I'm doing. 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: Because I read some of the questions for the podcast 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: this morning, and I thought to myself, huh, that's good. 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Why haven't I hit that already? I mean, there were 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: some that I couldn't even get to that I answered personally, 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: and I may end up talking about on Late Kick Live, 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: which by the way, airs on the twenty four to 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: seven Sports YouTube channel. So subscribe there if you haven't already, 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: and give us a five star review on this year 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: podcast if you haven't already. And I know when I 31 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: ask for the five star reviews, you guys understand that 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: religious means I'm talking about Apple podcasts. They don't let 33 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: you do it elsewhere. But I'll tell you what Spotify does. 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: At the end of the year, they put out your 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: most listened to charts. And I wasn't ready for that 36 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: this year. I know it's coming, but yet at the 37 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: same time, we're busy, we're in the middle of the season, 38 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: and so I didn't realize, oh, they're going to do 39 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: it this week. And so if you were familiar with 40 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, it's just them aggregating what you 41 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: listen to the most, and it gives your top songs, 42 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: it gives your top podcast you've listened to. And so 43 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: the other day all of a sudden, I started getting 44 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: flooded with these screenshots of people taking pictures and saying, hey, look, 45 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: I listened to your show more than any other show, 46 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: or you finished number three, or you finished number two, 47 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: and that was great, oh man, As I tweeted out, 48 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: such a boost to the old self esteem bone. Sometimes 49 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: you need it the most and it's the least likely 50 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: to happen there it is, and so I appreciate that. 51 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: And I absolutely tweeted that out to get more screen shots, 52 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: by the way, because I wanted even more boosts to 53 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: the self esteem, and you guys delivered. So thank you 54 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: for those. And I'll finish the sentence that I started, 55 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: and I went down that side road the five star reviews. 56 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: We're now at eight seventy two as I sit here 57 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: and look at the screen this morning, and it is Thursday, 58 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: a December third. Mom's birthday was yesterday. I remember that, 59 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: and so thank you so much. Let's get to a thousand. 60 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: That's the challenge. Let's get to a thousand, and now 61 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: let's get into these questions because we got a lot 62 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: to get to This morning. I got a conference call 63 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: that I got to squeeze this in before. But it 64 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: will not be a squeezed type show. We're going to 65 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: dive in pretty deep to a number of things this morning. Okay, 66 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: So I wanted to start with this. It's not necessarily 67 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: one person's question, because I think about three or four 68 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: dozen of you asked some form of what's going to 69 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: happen with Ohio State? And then also I wanted to 70 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: throw Chad's question in here because he kind of said, 71 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: I don't think Indiana is out. If Ohio State has 72 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: more COVID cancelations that prevent them from playing in the 73 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: Big Ten title game and Indiana wins against Wisconsin and 74 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: Purdue plus the Big Ten title, is there a possibility 75 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: the Hoosiers make the playoff? And so I wanted to 76 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: hit all this, and you could really throw A and 77 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: M in here too, but I'm going to hit a 78 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: separate Texas A and M question in terms of the 79 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: playoff a little bit later in the podcast. What's going 80 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: to happen to Ohio State is a matter of some 81 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: conjecture right now, because we're, to be honest, sitting around 82 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: waiting to see if they're going to hit the minimum 83 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: baseline number of games as it stands now, that's necessary 84 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: now if you are kind of you know, living your 85 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: normal life and you haven't been paying attention to the 86 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: day to day here, what's happening is basically the Big 87 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: Ten fumble the ball horribly trying to get into the season. 88 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: That's really the backdrop with which this entire debacle should 89 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: be viewed. The Big Ten wanted to go its own way. 90 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: It's a great song by Fleetwood Mac. It's a horrible 91 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: strategy when it comes to college football schedule making and 92 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: decision making, especially when really you're not too qualified to 93 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: make those decisions, even if you are in a leadership 94 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: position or positions. And so they did not go the 95 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: route of the sec or acc They started late. They 96 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: gave themselves no wiggle room, unnecessarily so, by the way. 97 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: So now you have one of their member institutions and 98 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: one of them that fought the hardest to play the season. 99 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: So hats off to Ohio State having to suffer potentially 100 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: at the hands of your poor decision making. Now, if 101 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: they are able at they being Ohio State, if they're 102 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: able to play Michigan State Saturday, and looks like we're 103 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: on track to do that, and then they're able to 104 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: play let's say Michigan next week, and they can get 105 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: into the Big Ten title game with that six to 106 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: win threshold met All's well, I think they'll go to 107 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: that game. I think they'll win. At that point. I 108 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: think the College Football Playoff Committee will have seen enough 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: to put them in. My entire premise there is I 110 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: think they, like most people, believe Ohio State, if the 111 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: truth were known, is really one of the four best 112 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: teams in the country, even if they don't play as 113 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: many games as everyone else. They believe that. They have 114 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: believed that since the beginning of the season. I have 115 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: believed that for the record, since the beginning of the season, 116 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people in the committee 117 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: are looking for a reason. They're begging to be given 118 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: a reason to put the Buckeyes in. I don't think 119 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: that's the wildest theory in the world. I don't think 120 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: that's the most ludicrous mindset to have in the world. Now, 121 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: I do understand the counter I perfectly understand if you're 122 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 1: listening to this right now, and you know you're yelling 123 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: at your phone and saying okay. But there have been 124 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: plenty of times in the past where a team started 125 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: four and oh or five and oh and ended up 126 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: falling off a cliff. There have been plenty of times 127 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: in the past where we thought highly of a team 128 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: in the first month to month and a half of 129 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: the season, and then all of a sudden they fell 130 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: off a cliff, Like, how do we know? How could 131 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: you know for sure that Ohio State wasn't going to 132 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: fall off a cliff. If they're not, they don't have 133 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: to be put through the test. I understand what you're saying. 134 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: You make perfect sense. It's my only counter is the 135 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: age old. It is what it is, adage. I mean, 136 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: that's that's what it is. This year. I'm not going 137 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: to be able to give you a perfect solution. Okay, 138 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: the closest we can come to perfect is let's just 139 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: as Christopher Walkin told Rachel McAdams in Wedding Crashers, you 140 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: have no idea what the future may bring. All you 141 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: can do is use the information at hand to make 142 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: the best decision possible. And the reason you know I 143 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: didn't plan that is cause I probably didn't get the 144 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: exact quote right. But he's right, as Christopher walking always 145 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: was and is. He's right. That's the way it's going 146 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: to have to be. Now, that's not the question at hand, though. 147 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: I think most people assume if the Buckeyes are able 148 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: to get to the Big Ten title game and win it, 149 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: most people assume they're in. What you guys are asking 150 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: is what if they don't. And it's my opinion that 151 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: has kind of evolved in the last twenty four or 152 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: forty eight hours. It's my opinion that's not going to 153 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: be allowed to happen. I believe if they're not able 154 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: to get one of these next two games in and 155 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: they don't meet that minimum threshold, I just think the 156 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: minimum threshold is going to be changed. I don't think 157 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: there's any prayer. And Barry Alvarez, who is the current 158 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: athletic director at Wisconsin, yesterday kind of went on a 159 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: record and backed up this sentiment. I don't believe there's 160 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: any prayer the Big Ten is going to allow Ohio 161 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: State to be left out of the College Football Playoff 162 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: because of their incompetence and because of their rule structure 163 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: that they put in place that was really written in 164 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: pencil to begin with. And the good thing about writing 165 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: something in pencil is, of course you can erase it 166 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: anytime you want to if you're holding the pencil, you 167 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: can flip that thing upside down and you can erase it. 168 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: This entire season's been drawn in pencil. Everyone's been flexible. 169 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: The acc just arbitrarily changed. You're in schedule and then 170 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: and then not Mike's Live. The late Mike's Live was 171 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: the commissioner in the SEC. Greg Sankee's down here saying, 172 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: wait a second, what are you guys doing? Like you 173 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: got your two best teams figured out, You're just gonna 174 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: shave games off the end of the year. And then 175 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: people are looking at Greg Sankie saying, you're still gonna 176 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: make Alabama play Arkansas. You's gonna make Florida play on 177 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: December twelve because those guys aren't. And it's ridiculous. I mean, 178 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: she didn't have to do her chores. Do I have 179 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: to do my chores? Everything's written in pencil this year, 180 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: the Big ten by laws or buy proto calls or whatever, 181 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: it's no different there. So what I believe is if 182 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: Ohio State ends up getting left out of the playoff, 183 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna because they lost a game. That's what I believe. 184 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: I do not believe they're gonna be left out at 185 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: any point because someone looked at them and said, oh, look, 186 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: they didn't get enough games in so they couldn't play 187 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten title game. The Big Ten controls 188 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: that aspect, and as long as they hold the control, 189 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna make sure the Buckeyes get in. And they're 190 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: gonna make sure they get in by making sure they 191 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: play in the Big Ten title game. And if that 192 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: means at the last minute removing that rule that says 193 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: you got to have you must have played six games 194 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: in order to qualify, that's what they're going to do. 195 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: I fully believe that. I fully believe they will go 196 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis and they'll win the Big Ten title and 197 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: they'll make the playoff. Now is that right or wrong? 198 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: You can make an argument either way. Again, that's up 199 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: to your interpretation. I'm going to leave that to you. 200 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: My thought is this, if I were to look at 201 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: the Big Ten and it was arguable who the best 202 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: team up there is. I mean, if it were even 203 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: remotely debatable who the best team up there is, I 204 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: give a lot more pushback. But let's just be real 205 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, the only thing that was going 206 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: to stand between Ohio State and winning that conference was 207 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: going to be a technicality. And if that's all that 208 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: we're talking about, and we're going to favor them by 209 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: three touchdowns over anyone they play in the Big Ten 210 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: title game, and it's crystal clear who the best team is. 211 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I'm not going to push 212 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: back a whole lot on that. And that's kind of 213 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: an exception to the rule mentality, given how I normally 214 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: feel about competition and about being made to earn something, 215 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: and I still feel that way, kind of down deep 216 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: in my core. But at the same time, again, let 217 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: me say it again, twenty twenty protocol, so it let 218 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: me say it again is what it is, and we 219 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: get all the normal phrasing out of the way and 220 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: just tell you you're gonna have to live with it all right. 221 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: Next up this morning, Tennessee's back in action this week, 222 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: and just in time for that, we got a Tennessee 223 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: slash South Carolina question here. This is from Scott. Scott 224 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: says question for the show. Hypothetically, if you were a 225 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: top coaching candidate and you had your choice to go 226 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: to Tennessee or South Carolina, what would you choose. I 227 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: know what the mainstream and obvious opinion would be but 228 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: I think it's closer than what some might think. Part 229 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: of my reasoning or thought is that South Carolina the 230 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: pressure is much less there than it is at Tennessee. 231 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: I know coaches are wired different, but if you win 232 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: eight to ten games at USC, you're a god. At Tennessee, 233 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: it's expected that you win at least that many each season. Scott, 234 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: I would choose Tennessee. But I got my own reasons 235 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: for this, because I have certainly nothing against Carolina. In fact, 236 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: so much so that many of you have taken to 237 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: referring to me as Cocky Junior in the comment section 238 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: that goes all the way back to my days in Columbus, 239 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: I have I don't know, I've just always kind of 240 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: had this strange, unexplainable affinity for Carolina. I think it's 241 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: cause I worked for an ownership group that was out 242 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: of South Carolina. They were all South Carolina grads, so 243 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: I was just always around South Carolina talk and whatnot, 244 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: and they kind of it always endeared me to them 245 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: to root for South Carolina. And I'm not going to 246 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: ever have accused myself of being a brown nose. However, 247 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: it did help that I was around them during the 248 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: height of the spur Year years, and so the best 249 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: period in Gamecock football was the time that I was 250 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: being introduced to those folks. So, I mean, all I 251 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: had to say was Cox by thirty Saturday, and I 252 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: got a promotion that was essentially as easy as it 253 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: was for me. So really that's the only reason I'm here. 254 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're being honest with ourselves, I'm put 255 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: it all on the table. South Carolina got me where 256 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: I am today. Bless you, Steve Spurrier. Now, having said that, 257 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: here's why I'm telling you my answer is Tennessee. I 258 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: am about sick to death of people telling me Tennessee 259 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: can't win, they cannot be a national championship program, they 260 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: cannot be a Tier one program, can't be an elite program. 261 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: I believe a lot of that is really just more 262 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: recency bias, I guess you would call it than actual reality. 263 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: Here's why I believe Tennessee can be a perennial Tier 264 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: one and they aren't for different reasons. But what you 265 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: can do there is you can recruit, which people will 266 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: stop me. They'll put their index finger over my mouth 267 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: and goes sh no. You can't. No, you can't, because 268 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: you know why Tennessee doesn't have a huge crop of 269 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: endstate talent. Okay, you're kind of right about that. I 270 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: understand the point that you're making. There's a little more 271 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: talent in Tennessee than you think. But it's also a 272 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: weird state. So the majority of the talent would be 273 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: in Central and then West Tennessee, which is much closer 274 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: to like Ole, miss and Tuscaloosa than it is to Knockville. 275 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: It's kind of a weirdly shaped state. Like I'm in 276 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: Nashville right now. It helps to be in Nashville. Like 277 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: if Vanderbilt were a powerhouse, well, they're situated well in 278 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: Tennessee to just take advantage of the whole state. Knoxville 279 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: is like closer to the Atlantic Ocean than it is 280 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: to Memphis. Please don't check that geographically. I think that's right, 281 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: and if it's not, you understand the point I'm trying 282 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: to make. So here's the other point. I am not 283 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: a believer that state boundaries are limiting a good recruiter. 284 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: In recruiting in twenty twenty, there's a lot of data 285 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: out there. I'm not going to waste your time with it, 286 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: that would indicate to you overwhelmingly, state boundaries have never 287 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: mattered less in recruiting. Kids go away from home all 288 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: the time. Now, it's not a big deal anymore the 289 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: way it used to be kind of recently, to be 290 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: honest with you, it's just not a big deal anymore. 291 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: So what I believe in doing is with a program 292 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: like Tennessee, I believe in drawing about a six hour 293 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: radius around the campus, and that's my recruiting territory. And 294 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: then if I'm Jeremy Pruett, for example, you know I 295 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: have an added feature that I'm big. I can go 296 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: into Mobile if I want to, because I have an 297 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: established rapport with the high school coaches. Really all up 298 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: and down I sixty five in Alabama. But draw the 299 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: six hour radius and look at where that gets you 300 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: if you're Tennessee. Not only does it get you, of course, 301 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: over to Nashville, and you know, I think it's close 302 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: to Memphis. Just let's call it Tennessee. Okay, you get 303 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: down into Atlanta, you get into the Carolinas, you get 304 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: up into Virginia. Like you're in all these places that 305 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: you need to recruit. You're in the northern half of Alabama. 306 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: And so you're telling me that you can't find a 307 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: top seven, top eight caliber class per year in that circle. 308 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: Of course you can. You got to be able to 309 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: leverage it. You got to have something to sell. And 310 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: if Tennessee is not able to sell it, it's not 311 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: cause the kids wouldn't come there if it was sellable. 312 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: It's caused their product's been bad. Secondly, what are you 313 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: lacking other than that? Because I believe you can recruit perennially. 314 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: You're in and year out very well there, very well 315 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: to elite if you got the right guy. What if 316 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: I Nick Saban at Tennessee, That's my question. What if 317 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: I put him there? It was he all of a 318 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: sudden falling off a cliff and struggling to hit the 319 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: top fifteen every year. Of course not so it could 320 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: be done. Kirby Smart at Tennessee would be killing it 321 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: in recruiting. Of course it could be done. So then 322 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: I move on and I ask what else do they lack? Well? Facilities, No, 323 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: it's not facilities. Not only do they have a historic 324 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: game day atmosphere, but the behind the scenes stuff, the 325 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: stuff you don't necessarily see on TV. All the time. 326 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: It's state of the art there. There's been recent upgrades. 327 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: It's phenomenal. I've been up there very recently. They got 328 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: great facilities at Tennessee. Is the financial buy in not there? 329 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: That's false, of course it is. Is the fan passion 330 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: not there? Are you crazy? Those people are still balled 331 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: in after the last decade, they're still bought in. Believe 332 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: in Derek Dooley. They did crash and burn. Believe in 333 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: Butch Jones. The man put a trash can on the sideline. 334 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: They did crash and burn. They've been asked to invest 335 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: over and over again, and they've still shown up every Saturday, 336 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: and they're still there at every fundraising event and they're 337 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: still there, caring as much as anyone on National Signing 338 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: Day and everything in between. They're still there. Now they've 339 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: been asked to invest again and they've done it again. 340 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: It's always there. The elements are there. Everything you need 341 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: to win is there. You just hadn't had the right 342 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: guy in the driver's seat. And that's really, ultimately what 343 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: it comes down to. You and I both know that. 344 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: So is it gonna be Jeremy Prewett. It may be, 345 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: it may not be. But if it's not Pruit, well, 346 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: the next guy would be me. Because that's the hypothetical. 347 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: If I were the coach choosing, I'd want to go 348 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: to Tennessee and you're asking me, so I'm giving you 349 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: my answer. I'd want to go there just to prove 350 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: that wrong. That's why I want to go there. So 351 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: it was kind of a slanted answer, Scott, you probably 352 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: asked the wrong person. You didn't get a true comparative 353 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: analysis of the programs. But I've always had this. I've 354 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: never said this before. I don't think I've ever said 355 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: burr under my saddle. You know what. I watched Tombstone 356 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: the other night. So I've always had this burr under 357 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: my saddle about all these folks who just make these 358 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: claims all Tennessee can't be this and can't be that. 359 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: It's like, what are you talking about? First off, they 360 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: have been it, like they've been there. A question of 361 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: is it possible to win a national title there, they've 362 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: done it. They've done it. In my lifetime. They've done it. 363 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: And so not only not only has that happened, I 364 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't have even needed to see them win a title 365 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: to know they could do it. In two thousand and 366 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: eight for doing this podcast twelve years ago. And someone 367 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: asks this question about Clemson or South Carolina, and I 368 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: were to choose Clemson. If I were to tell you 369 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: Clemson's capable of win an that national title, would you 370 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: have told me? Uh uh? Just because they haven't in 371 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: this generation? Like, just because they haven't, Well, of course 372 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: they were capable of it. They just needed the right guy. 373 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: They got the right guy, and now they've won a 374 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: couple of them. They played for another one and they're 375 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: rolling Tennessee. Could be the exact you're telling me. Clemson's 376 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: capable of doing something Tennessee's not. Really that's what you're 377 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: telling me. Okay, well we'll just agree to disagree there, Scott, 378 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm not yelling at you. I'm just yelling at the 379 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: hypothetical jerk standing behind you sticking his tongue out at me. 380 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: All right. Next up here, Steven had a really good one. 381 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: He said, do you collect memorabilia? I'm sort of new 382 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: to that game. I just don't get why some things 383 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: are valuable and some things aren't. Stephen, you read my mind. 384 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: I've never understood how value is attributed to things in 385 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: the memorabilia world. Now, I'm not a big collector. I 386 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: do have a couple of things. I told the story 387 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: over the summer about when I was at the twenty 388 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: seventeen National title game. That was the one that was 389 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: the second and twenty sixth win in Atlanta to DeVante Smith, 390 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: a non Heisman contender, DeVante Smith. I want to stress 391 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: that Davante Smith is not a Heisman contender. No matter 392 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: how great he is, You're never going to see his 393 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: name in Heisman contention. Is that sarcastic? Of course it is. 394 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: Is it dripping with vitriol for the entire Heisman process? 395 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: Of course it is. But I digress. So that happens, 396 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: chaos ensues. Brian Dable was the offensive coordinator for Alabama 397 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: at that time, and so, as I told the story 398 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: in the summer, all the stuff that happens on the 399 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: field after a walk off National championship win happens on 400 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: the field. It's like Joe Carter for the Blue Jays, 401 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: but it's football instead. All the craziness is happening. And 402 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: so I was on the field for the postgame, everything postgame, 403 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: and then as the trophy ceremony and the confetti's raining 404 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: down as they're getting that set up. I looked down 405 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: at the ground and I saw a laminated something. So 406 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: I was just picking stuff up. Really, what I was 407 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: looking for was newspapers, because my cousin always loves to 408 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: get those commemorative newspapers they hand out, so I always 409 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: try and grab them one if I can, and so 410 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: I was looking for those. I saw a laminated sheet. 411 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: I said, oh, I'll pick that up. Why not, If 412 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: nothing else, I'll just help them clean the facility up. 413 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: So I picked it up. Didn't even look at it 414 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: at the time because I was in a hurry, and 415 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: I put it in my bag and I went on 416 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: about my business. Then after the game, it was like 417 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: three hours later when I was I think I was 418 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: putting my laptop up. Maybe I can't remember what I 419 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: was doing, but I opened the bag and I said, oh, oh, 420 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: here's this laminated sheet. And I looked at it and 421 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: it was Alabama's offensive play sheet that Dable I guess 422 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: had dropped all the plays on there. I mean the 423 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: color coded plays. You know, it's everything categorized. It's crazy. 424 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: You could spend hours reading this. And so I've got that. 425 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: I told you I had a guy put a price 426 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: on it one time out of fun, and it was 427 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: an absurdly high number that I could never envision anyone paying. 428 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: But that's beside the point, because I'm not selling it. 429 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: I got to get in a very hard time, I'll say, 430 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: to sell that. And that's probably my favorite and one 431 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: of my only pieces of memorabilia. But another quick good one. 432 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: You're talking about weird things that are valued by people. 433 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: I was at the twenty which one was the first time? No, 434 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: the second time Bama played Clemson was twenty sixteen, so 435 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: I guess it was the year before that game. Me 436 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: and the chief meteorologist at the news station that I 437 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: was working at the time, Matt Wentz, who works in Cleveland. 438 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: Now maybe some of you Buckeye fans know who that is. 439 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: He graduated from Ohio State, by the way. So we 440 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: go down to the National title game. And don't ask 441 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: me why he got to go with me, he just did. 442 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: We you know, it was a long story. He was 443 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: a very interesting time at the station. So we go 444 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: down there and he, I mean, he's a college football fan, 445 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: but by no means a diehard fan, but he knows 446 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: the game and so he was interested, wanted to take 447 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: in the atmosphere. So we're there. That's the one where 448 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: clums And won the game with one second to go, 449 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: so there's more craziness and you got the obviously the 450 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: confetti that rains down after the game there too. So 451 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: Wentz has some ziplock bags with him. He says, you 452 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: know what, watch this now. I call myself the expert. 453 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: I know everything about this game. And he's telling me 454 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: how he's about to scoop up all this confetti and 455 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: these ziplock bags. And I say, okay, they'll appreciate that. 456 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you look like the homeless dude out here. 457 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: They'll appreciate that. But go for it. Get your bags. 458 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm not carrying him for you, but get your bags. 459 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: So he gets like, I don't know, somewhere between five 460 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: and ten bags of purple and orange confetti. Take some home. 461 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: I don't hear anything else about it until a week 462 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: later I'm walking down the hall he says, hey, look 463 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: at this. So I go into the weather center. He's 464 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: got his computer pulled up and I don't I statute 465 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: of limitations probably passed on this by now. I don't 466 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: know if it's illegal or not anyway. He's got eBay 467 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: pulled up where he has taken these bags of confetti 468 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: and some programs that we got at the game because 469 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: they give him to you for free. They just put 470 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: mountain of him out there. Grab as many as you 471 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: want to, especially on the way out when no one 472 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: else is buying them. And so he has coupled. He's 473 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: selling packages of confetti and game programs, and Clemson fans 474 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: are bidding on them. And it was like watching Dwight 475 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: Shrewd flip Andy Bernard's Exterra in the office. He gets 476 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: a really good deal on it and then he flips 477 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: it for profit, like ten thousand dollars profit. Wentz was 478 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: flipping confetti. But the difference is he paid free dollars 479 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: and fifty cents for his confetti and he flipped it. 480 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: And so I am dumbfounded looking at the computer screen 481 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: and realizing people are paying for essentially garbage. This is confetti, 482 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: this is paper, this is colored paper. But he got 483 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: it off the field. There was still grass mixed in. 484 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the dude had set in a 485 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: little bit. They're still grass mixed in. It's very authentic. 486 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: And so that memorabilia story has always stuck with me, 487 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: and it's like you said here, Steven, why do people 488 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: put value on things they put value on? I don't know, 489 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: but the bottom line is they do. And I learned 490 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: it first, then if I didn't know it already, And 491 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: we move on here, David said, do you think the 492 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: success and the inevitable draft upgrades of guys like Davante 493 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: Smith and naj Harris at Alabama and what they're experiencing 494 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: this year will encourage more players at Alabama or any 495 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: school for that matter, to stay through their senior year. David, 496 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that these cases specifically will lead to that, 497 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: but I do know this. I think DeVante Smith and 498 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: Nase Harris will be used as prototypes, as case studies 499 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: for any coach that's talking to a guy who's on 500 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: the fence about coming back, because you've got the insurance 501 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: policy option out there, so it's not an all risk, 502 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: all reward type deal. You got a little safety net 503 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: under you. Both of those guys have those kinds of policies, 504 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: but you're telling you're telling a guy who is on 505 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: the fence and who's being told maybe by family, maybe 506 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: by agents out there who aren't supposed to be talking 507 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: to them, but are anyway that they need to come 508 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: out and they it's once in a lifetime opportunity. And 509 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: if you're trying to sell them on coming back and 510 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: playing college football one more year, what do you have 511 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: in your barrel, what do you have in your chamber? Well, 512 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: this is it. Look at DeVante Smith, look at Naja Harris. 513 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: Maybe these guys were already fringe first rounders, maybe early 514 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: second round type guys. But look at the difference between 515 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: being drafted thirty third and being drafted thirteenth. And that 516 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: is millions of dollars in gaps, signing bonus money, and 517 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: you only get a chance to do that one time, 518 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: and I think it's worth it. But it's also something 519 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: that does not need to be taken lightly because you 520 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: think about the mentality. If you've ever looked at DeVante Smith, 521 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: like the way he goes about his business, the way 522 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: Naja Harris goes about his business, that's not normal. It's 523 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: atypical to be wired like that. So if you're not 524 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: wired like that, and maybe you got a chance to 525 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: leave just based on raw talent alone, after your third 526 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: year there, maybe you need to go. But if you 527 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: are wired like that, and you understand, you know, you're 528 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: making a forty year decision instead of a four year decision, 529 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: which is run what they'll probably tell you on the 530 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: recruiting trail too. Yeah, it makes financial sense, but you 531 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: better be You can't come back and be wishy washy 532 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: about it. You better come back full steam ahead, going 533 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen percent every day or else. Naja 534 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Harris and DeVante Smith are not the best examples to use. 535 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: They're not the best comparisons because if you're not wired 536 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: like them, what they did is irrelevant to what you'll 537 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: end up doing. Bryce is next up, He said, how 538 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: does a team like pitt go from slightly above average 539 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: to a ten win team? Back in twenty sixteen, at 540 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: the end of the season, it seemed like we were 541 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: on the right path. We got big wins over Clemson 542 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: and Penn State. The next year we did okay at best, 543 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: then we managed to make it to the ACC title 544 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: game in twenty eighteen. What is needed to make the 545 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: jump to a ten win team? Now, Bryce is an 546 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: important distinction that you didn't make. But I'm going to 547 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: ask people to make in their minds. As you're listening 548 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: Are we talking about being a team that can win 549 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: ten games in a season, or are we talking about 550 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: a ten win program? If you're talking about a ten 551 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: win program that ain't pit and it ain't ninety eight 552 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: percent of the sport, I mean, you're talking about ten 553 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: wins on average per year. There are only a couple 554 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 1: of three, maybe four programs doing that and capable of 555 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: doing that. That's just very, very lofty. And sometimes I'm 556 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: not dunking on you as much as I'm just making 557 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: a general statement here. I don't think people realize what 558 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: they're saying. When you call a program a ten win program. Man, 559 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about cruising at an altitude where your baseline 560 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: expectation is double digit wins per year. Look at who's 561 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: doing that right now? Not very many. I'm not talking 562 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: about a COVID year, but a general year. Winning ten 563 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: games or more per year on average certainly means you've 564 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: got championships mixed in there. I mean, you've got every 565 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: single year you either being in the conference title game 566 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: or right there on the precipice of being in the 567 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: conference title game. And that's just hard to do for 568 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: Pitt or anyone else. So I don't think Pitt. I 569 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: don't think it's a reasonable expectation to expect them to 570 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: fly at double digit win per year altitude that being programmed. 571 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: But can you do it as a team, Yes, certainly 572 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: you can do it. What they have to do is 573 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: they have to have the spike your mentality as I've 574 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: always called it, and what that is basically is instead 575 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: of you know, breaking your back trying to be there 576 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: every year and it's not realistic. Understand it's possible that 577 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: we could build to that and so circle a year 578 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: spike year every two to three years. What is realistic 579 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: is for pitt to recruit and develop and then sprinkle 580 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: off the transfer market and build around a quarterback that 581 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: is going to spike in is junior or senior year, 582 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: and you've got a young offensive line that is going 583 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: to coincide with that, and they're going to have a 584 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: ton of seasoning and experience their junior or senior years, 585 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: and then you're going to fill the holes you need 586 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: to with some freshman or young talent and then maybe 587 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: sprinkle in a big time transfer or two that just 588 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: wants to get closer to home. It's a unique situation 589 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: and you're building like you're sitting here right now in 590 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty and if you were to apply this mentality, 591 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah you want to win every year. Yeah you're trying 592 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: to win every game, but if you're doing your overall 593 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: overarching big picture, look at your program, you're knowing all 594 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: the while, twenty twenty two is gonna be that year. Now. Now, 595 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna have some growing pains this year, we'll have 596 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: an outside shot next year at some games, we'll be 597 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: able to do some things. But twenty twenty two, that's 598 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: gonna be the year for us. And that's how I 599 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: think you have to do it at PIT and a 600 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: number of programs that are comparable to PIT. All right, 601 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: I've actually got kind of quasi complaints. It's been in fun, 602 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 1: in good nature, but I've had some complaints about how 603 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: I've been teasing you about the ad breaks. So you 604 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna tell you ahead 605 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: of time. Here we go, we're about to dive into 606 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: a quick ad break, and then when we're coming out, 607 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: you're welcome for this in advance. And when we're coming out, 608 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about Florida and A three and a 609 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: two and a one take it away. All right, here 610 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: we are. We're back now. Casey asks, I got a 611 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: question about Florida football. This season has been really exciting 612 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: as a Florida fan. We beat Georgia, we got over 613 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: the hump. That's huge. This week, though, I've had this 614 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: bugging thought that we're a little bit ahead of schedule. Casey, 615 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: what are you doing Cane? I'm a bit afraid that 616 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: if we don't upset Bama in the SEC title game 617 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: and take advantage of the momentum, we may have a 618 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: crash like LSU has had. What do you think is 619 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: the big key for Florida moving forward to make that 620 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: jump into staying in that Tier one level. Well, Casey, 621 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: LSU is just an example. I don't like using a 622 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: lot because everything about that team was extreme, everything even 623 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: on the fringes, every detail about that program last year 624 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: is totally atypical and it's very hard to use as 625 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: a comparison for any other program. Having said that, I 626 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: get the general sense in general spirit rather of your question. 627 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: To avoid that, where you have to do is maintain 628 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: consistency at quarterback and head coach. That helps. That takes 629 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: you ninety percent of the way. That's not to mean 630 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: that you have to keep the same quarterback. This is 631 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: college football, but you have to maintain that kind of 632 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: level of play and you have to do what Kyle 633 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: Trask is doing this year, and then you have to 634 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: use it. See last year, Joe Burrow did what he did. 635 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: But then do you go out on the recruiting trail 636 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: and sell it and then bring in elite talent. Clemson 637 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: did this beautifully when they had Deshaun Watson come in 638 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: and turn that program upside down. Not only did they win, 639 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: but then they used Deshaun Watson to go out and 640 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: get guys like Trevor Lawrence and using Trevor Lawrence to 641 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: go out and get guys like dj Uyangala lay Well, 642 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: you got to use Kyle Trask and you got to 643 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: go out there and you've got to land game changing 644 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks because once you start that snowball down the hill, 645 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: as we've seen with Clemson, it can pick up speed. Alabama, 646 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: it can pick up speed very very quickly. But you 647 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: gotta start it. You've started it, You've done the hard part. 648 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: That's what you got to do next. And then the 649 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: other thing is they got to start winning some head 650 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: to head recruiting battles against Georgia. They got a shot. 651 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: They got a couple of shots here coming up, we 652 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: got early signing Day a couple of weeks away, and 653 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 1: we're preparing for that behind the scenes here, So get 654 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: ready for that. It's on the sixteenth. I think we're 655 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: going to be on air an absurd amount of time. Now, 656 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: you won't be able to miss us, I can assure you. 657 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: So that's what you have to do. There're just a 658 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: lot of things that have to be done. Consis instantly 659 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: at a high level to where you don't have these 660 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: wild spikes in record year to year. Next up is Isaac, 661 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: who had a two parter. He said, I know bias 662 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: exists in college football, but some of that is earned, 663 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: like the SEC. Do you think unearned bias exists in 664 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: college football? Yes, I do, Isaac. However, I'm not going 665 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: to attribute it to any one team or any one conference, 666 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: let's say, or maybe even any one player. I mean, 667 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: there's quarterback bias at the Heisman, and we understand that, 668 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: but I don't talk Heisman a whole lot, and I 669 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: don't really think you're asking about that. Here's where the 670 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 1: real unearned bias is I call it the default setting, 671 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: and it comes from preview magazine season. The college football 672 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: offseason is long, it's tenuous. I mean, you got to 673 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: go the whole summer, and that's what you're looking forward to. 674 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: Two things. That first afternoon where it feels dry and 675 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: a little bit crisper outside, you know, falls on the way, 676 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: and that coincides with football season. That's what you're looking 677 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: forward to. When it's one hundred and three degrees at 678 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: eleven forty five am down in South Georgia in the 679 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: middle of July, you're looking forward to that. But then also, 680 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: you have nothing to do but listen and read and 681 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: talk about your college football team or teams, and you 682 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: develop these ideas and you develop a default setting of 683 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: what you think about teams or conferences, which is great 684 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: and that's fine, but sometimes folks get married to them. 685 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: And in the college football media world it's no different. 686 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: Folks get married to their preseason ideas of what the 687 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: college football world is that given year, and they won't 688 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 1: come off of it, even as evidence overwhelmingly against that 689 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: default setting starts to pile up. And so that's where 690 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: the unearned bias is. You're going to give a lot 691 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: of benefit of the doubt to a team just because 692 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: of what you believed about them. But the thing about 693 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: it is you may have just overrated a team and 694 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: you'll talk about how they got upset in Week one. 695 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't get upset at all. Maybe it was 696 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: unrealistic to ever think that they should have been and 697 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: Team B. Maybe Team A's just not all that great. 698 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: You know. I remember when LSU went to Wisconsin. It 699 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: was a couple of years back now, to open the season. 700 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I was convinced they were gonna beat Wisconsin 701 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: and they didn't, And so I looked at it and 702 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: I said, Man, how in the world did Wisconsin pull 703 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: this upset? Well, maybe ls you just wasn't the caliber 704 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: team that I thought they were, And that turned out 705 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: to be reality. Wisconsin was pretty good too that year. 706 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: By the way, A second question from Isaac, assuming they 707 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: went out, do you see the playoff picture for Texas 708 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: A and M still able to take shape? Isaac? My 709 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: answer is yes, but it's a longer shot if I'm 710 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: right about Ohio State. Because if I'm right about Ohio 711 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: State and they went out and the Big Ten finds 712 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: a way to put them in the Big Ten title 713 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: game and they win a conference title and they're going 714 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: to be favored huge in all those games. So that's 715 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: not a bold assumption. Gonna be tough unless some craziness 716 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: happens elsewhere, And I don't know what that craziness would be, 717 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, that would have to happen 718 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 1: elsewhere to get Texas A and M in there. So 719 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a long shot. But listen, they can't 720 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: work worry about that. They've got a game where they're 721 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: a seven point favorite against Auburn Saturday, Like it's it's 722 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: gonna suck if for them, at least if all of 723 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: this is talked about and it's rendered moot because they 724 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: get upset by Auburn and still haven't beaten Gus Malzam 725 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: under Jimbo Fisher like that, that would be the shame. 726 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: Xavier said, do you think the problem this season with 727 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: Tennessee is coaching or player related or even potentially people 728 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Xavier, maybe a little bit of everything. 729 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a behind the scenes problem. 730 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: I like I've told you with COVID, I think it 731 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: has disproportionately impacted teams, even though everyone has dealt with 732 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: it from a blanket perspective. I just think that they 733 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: weren't ready yet this year. Anyway, the quarterback situation was 734 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: going to be untenable at best this year, COVID or not. 735 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: And so if you're suspected quarterback, you're going to be 736 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: suspect period. And I know that sounds so simplistic, but 737 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: yet it's reality. And they haven't lit the world on fire. 738 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: Obviously at other positions either, They've they, like many others, 739 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: have had some injuries and had some COVID related situations 740 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: where guys can't practice. But really, they're just not good 741 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: enough yet. And so I don't know, even if you 742 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: have great folks behind the scenes, and even if you 743 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: have great coaches, if you're just not good enough yet, 744 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: you're not good enough yet. That's the problem with Tennessee. 745 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: They're not good enough yet. How do you get good enough? 746 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: Does it require changes in the coaching world? Well, I 747 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't go that far yet. I know some people have, 748 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: but we'll see about that. But I got a lot 749 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: to get to later tonight that's kind of along those lines. 750 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: So I highly encourage you to check out Late Kick 751 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: Live tonight on the twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel, 752 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: Really good podcast this morning. A quick reminder subscribe to 753 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: that YouTube channel and give us a five star review 754 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: on this podcast if you haven't already. And thank you 755 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: guys so much again for listening to the Late Kick 756 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: Extra podcast. I am Josh Pate. Have yourselves a great weekend. 757 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: If I don't talk to you again between now and 758 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: next week, and there's no excuse for that because I 759 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: should see you tonight. So either way, take care, have 760 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: a great day, and God bless