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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to the nought Even Nisha host Rob Shoes,

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Speaker 1: joined by my friend Mark Lupo from US Weekly. Mark,

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Speaker 1: Are you there? I'm here? Rob? Hello? Mark. I see

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Speaker 1: you've been having a very busy week. What celebrities have

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Speaker 1: you been talking to? What have you been what have

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Speaker 1: you been doing? It's been a very busy week in Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: I spoke with Nya Rivera's former publicist this week. I

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Speaker 1: should explain if people don't know, I used to be

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Speaker 1: a publicist for a long time for Jessica Simpson and

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Speaker 1: did de Alicia Keys. A publicist gets really close to

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Speaker 1: their clients. They know pretty much everything about them. What

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Speaker 1: did he have to say about Naya? Rob, He's had

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Speaker 1: so many beautiful things to say about Naya. He said

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Speaker 1: that she was a sweet, sweet soul. She cared so

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Speaker 1: much about her fans, she was close to her family,

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Speaker 1: she was close to her co stars, and she wanted

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Speaker 1: to use her platform to empower others. It was a

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Speaker 1: beautiful conversation. It's lovely. Everyone I've been speaking to a

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Speaker 1: week that knew her had been around her. I hit

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Speaker 1: the phones and try to get it to as many

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Speaker 1: people as possible. They all said the same thing. They

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Speaker 1: said she was terrific. I didn't know her very well

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Speaker 1: or at all, and people that were close to her

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Speaker 1: said she was wonderful. But I thought was really interesting.

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Speaker 1: The common thread amongst everybody I spoke to was that

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Speaker 1: she wasn't really that excited about being famous, or she

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Speaker 1: didn't even really think of Glee as her crowning achievement.

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Speaker 1: The thing that she was most excited about was being

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Speaker 1: a mom. Robbing other news I heard today is your birthday?

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday? Thank you, Margaret? Is my birthday to day.

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Speaker 1: It's a little strange is that everyone that's had a birthday.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of us have now during the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't quite know what to do. I'm not

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Speaker 1: the biggest birthday boy Mark. Do you have parties? Have

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Speaker 1: you in the past? You do? You do you have

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Speaker 1: a big celebration on I'm sure you do on your birthday?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? What? Like you? I had a

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Speaker 1: birthday during the pandemic this summer and I had a

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Speaker 1: p thank you very much. I was like, you have

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Speaker 1: a pool so Doris has a pool. Maybe I'll come

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Speaker 1: over to your house and sit with Doris. You can

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Speaker 1: stay inside. I would have been some friends. Later on,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go over There's a park on the Hudson

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Speaker 1: River here by the West Side Highway, so I think

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Speaker 1: bunch of friends and a few bottles of booze. Don't

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take Darby by doggie and go over there.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you, thank you. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: really created a life where every day is like a birthday.

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Speaker 1: I'm such a lucky fella. I have a really nice life.

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Speaker 1: So I hope you all do as well. But thank you.

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Speaker 1: Mark ding Dong, what time is it? It is tea time? Okay.

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Speaker 1: So Nick Cannon, who was in a ton of trouble

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Speaker 1: maybe still is, has issued an apology after making anti

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Speaker 1: Semitic remarks on a recent podcast. Now he's saying he

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Speaker 1: is ashamed for he's hurtful and divisive language. It was

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Speaker 1: really ugly stuff. We're not going to repeat it on

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Speaker 1: this show, but I was shocked when I heard it.

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Speaker 1: So via come. CBS fired him, they dumped him. They

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Speaker 1: has gone too and now he has issued an apology.

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Speaker 1: I think what happened here is somebody got to him.

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Speaker 1: So after the comments became clear that he made on

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Speaker 1: his podcast, after we all found out about it, he

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Speaker 1: got fired. He dug in his heels. He didn't apologize

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Speaker 1: claims he was bullied. He claimed CBS owed him an apology,

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Speaker 1: and he wanted the rights back to his show Wild

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Speaker 1: and Out, which he claims is a billion dollar franchise.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he went further. He demanded CBS Viacom give

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Speaker 1: him that show back. This is what happened, my sources

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Speaker 1: And he has his own talk show. That's right, a

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Speaker 1: syndicated talk show launching at the end of September. It's

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Speaker 1: for the moment, he's fine. I predict though this could

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Speaker 1: happen again. Let's remember Nick got fired by Simon Cool

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Speaker 1: from what of the show Mark America's Got Talent? So

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Speaker 1: He was fired over comments he made. Now he's been

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Speaker 1: fired by CBS and Viacom. At the moment, it looks

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Speaker 1: to survive. But it's our pole question of the day.

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Speaker 1: Should Nick lose his new syndicated talk show that's coming

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Speaker 1: out in September after anti Semitic remarks? Yes? So no?

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow to hear your results. What are you working

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Speaker 1: on Lupo, Rob, I have some breaking Scientology news. I

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Speaker 1: know you love a Scientology story. Well, the church might

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Speaker 1: be losing one of the most high profile members. Yes,

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Speaker 1: John Travolta, as you know, I know you covered on

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Speaker 1: the show Earlier this week, John announced the passing of

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Speaker 1: his wife, Kelly Preston, after a two year battle of cancer. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is not the first time tragedy has struck John Travolta.

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Speaker 1: In two dozen nine, there are the couple's sixteen year

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Speaker 1: old son, Jet reportedly died after he had hit his

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Speaker 1: head during a seizure in the bathroom of the hotel. Now,

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Speaker 1: the actor had credited the Church of Scientology for helping

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Speaker 1: him get through one of the darkest periods of his life.

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Speaker 1: He said it was the worst thing that has ever

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Speaker 1: happened to him. In two thousand eighteen, Kelly Preston echoed

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Speaker 1: his comments to the same things, to the church never

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Speaker 1: left their side for years, and she didn't know how

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Speaker 1: they would make it through without the church's support. Well,

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Speaker 1: A sources telling us exclusively this time it might be

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Speaker 1: a little different. A source told us John will always

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Speaker 1: be grateful to the Church and he's appreciative of support

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Speaker 1: during his dark times. But right now he has to

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Speaker 1: focus on his two children. It's a twenty year old

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Speaker 1: his priority, That takes his focus, and you might not

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Speaker 1: see him for a while. Rob. Do you think this

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Speaker 1: It's shocking. I think this is your cover story on

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Speaker 1: giving us before anybody else markets. It's a shocking story.

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Speaker 1: Oh my years covering John Travolta's scientology, Tom Cruise, I've

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Speaker 1: never ever seen a crack never. They are totally devoted.

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Speaker 1: This is the first time there's been any any any

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Speaker 1: suggestion that John might be leaving the church. It is really,

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Speaker 1: really shocking. I do find though, after an awful, life changing,

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Speaker 1: understand it, I really really do. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: fascinating to see what happens now. I know, Mark, you

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Speaker 1: get told off all the time by the church's scientology,

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Speaker 1: their pr people call you screaming. What has been the

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Speaker 1: response to this cover story if they said anything yet

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Speaker 1: rub exactly. They get very upset when they do, they

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Speaker 1: of course they're I think they're scrambling behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: move along. So tire bang, Oh this story, Mark, I

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Speaker 1: to break the Tyra Banks stories. Tyra has taken over

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Speaker 1: Tom has been there, I think fifteen years. What's upset

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Speaker 1: So I know this has been going on a while. Mark,

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Speaker 1: is it rude? What do you think, Rob? But I've

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Speaker 1: the Tyra Bang Show. Yes, exactly, this is how it works.

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Speaker 1: It sounds rough, it sounds it sounds mean and cruel,

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Speaker 1: I love Aaron, but it's been fifteen years and I

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Speaker 1: so when you worked with her, though, or this is

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Speaker 1: this is what sort of as ruffled people's feathers as well.

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Speaker 1: Not only is Tyra the host, she's the executive producer.

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Speaker 1: The executive producer is basically the boss whoever's in charge

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Speaker 1: of your company that it's the executive producer. So Tyra

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Speaker 1: isn't being hired. She has not been hired to read

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Speaker 1: that's worked with her mark like you, I've been told

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Speaker 1: Tara it was very clear to all of us that

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Speaker 1: be massive, massive, changes at Dancing with the Stars. Mom,

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Speaker 1: what's happening with Kanye West? What's the news? The story man,

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Speaker 1: for the presidential race. Well, our friends at New York

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Speaker 1: Kanye's election strategy strategy Steve Kramer had told that the

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