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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Guilty Deasy.

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Speaker 1: Let's go with that guilty, guilty guilty. I'm Jack, that's Miles.

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Speaker 1: This is trending. AKA. We waited until the verdict came

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Speaker 1: down to record to give our reactions. I'm like emotionally

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Speaker 1: spent and just uh that was yeah, wait, way too

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Speaker 1: nervous for what a jury was going to find about

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Speaker 1: somebody who committed emotion murder over nine minutes. Yeah, let

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Speaker 1: me tell you, man, this, the process of waiting for

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Speaker 1: that verdict was just so fucking excruciating because I'm I think, I,

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Speaker 1: like a lot of people, I'm looking at a data

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Speaker 1: set that shows me the verdict that was read wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to happen. So you have to simultaneously operate this

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Speaker 1: place where you're trying to be realistic about what this

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Speaker 1: country is and what it stands for, while also having

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Speaker 1: this torturous hope that things may begin to turn or

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Speaker 1: maybe this can be somewhat breaking the mold or the pattern. Um,

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Speaker 1: and it's just it's just it's exhausting to hope that

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Speaker 1: your existence as a person of color, human being can

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Speaker 1: be validated with the right verdict. But that's you, but

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Speaker 1: also uniquely to like this black experience is also kind

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Speaker 1: of readying yourself that it doesn't matter that it's fucked up,

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Speaker 1: that he might fuck it, he might be on Dancing

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Speaker 1: with the Stars next fucking fall. Um, and I saw

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm completely spent, uh because I think at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, we have the same system, and

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Speaker 1: I know that this is a this is good data,

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Speaker 1: this is good feedback to say, yes that this version

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Speaker 1: of justice was served, but it it's so many people

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Speaker 1: that have not gotten justice. And if we don't act

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Speaker 1: um properly, in accordance not to act properly, but if

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Speaker 1: we don't make the right moves to create real change,

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Speaker 1: functional experience, experiential change for people of color in this country,

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Speaker 1: this doesn't mean much except for very narrowly that George

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Speaker 1: Floyd got justice. And I want to be able to

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Speaker 1: make sure that this. I don't know what the media

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Speaker 1: is going to do after this, Like what the if

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, well, George, George Floyd got justice.

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Speaker 1: Now let's keep it moving. Um. But yeah, I'm I'm relieved,

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Speaker 1: and I'm also just exhausted, and I'm I feel shitty

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Speaker 1: that even though there was justice in this context narrow only,

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Speaker 1: it's We're still in the same America at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day. Um, and it's just it's just a

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Speaker 1: weird thing. It's it's though, it's a unique sense of

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Speaker 1: bitter sweetness that I think people have Colin only known

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Speaker 1: this country. Yeah, if this is breaking the mold, then

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Speaker 1: the mold is fucking broken, and I think we need

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Speaker 1: to recognize that and change change the system. And I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping that that's maybe the experience of you know, of

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Speaker 1: waiting for this and also looking at the priors and

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Speaker 1: looking at Philando Castile's case and the fact that that

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Speaker 1: dude got off after shooting him seven times for no reason. Uh, Like,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe that was the fact that people have people

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Speaker 1: didn't break through at the time, and now the whole

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Speaker 1: world was kind of watching this and wait, waiting for

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Speaker 1: the American justice system to funk it up. I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: that that's enough to recognize that it needs to change,

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Speaker 1: that this this version of things where this is the

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Speaker 1: exception to the rule, like, we can't we can't move

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Speaker 1: forward with that. Well, and I think for people who

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Speaker 1: already had people in my comments being like, well this

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Speaker 1: is a step. Someone said you should be happy. I

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Speaker 1: should be Excuse you. I can tell me what the

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Speaker 1: funk I need to feel, but I don't. Steps We've

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Speaker 1: talked about this when since George Floyd was murdered over

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Speaker 1: the summer, incrementalism, gradual, glacial pace is still violence. And

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Speaker 1: to think otherwise, to think, to mistake that for progress

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Speaker 1: is does a disservice to all those people who are

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Speaker 1: looking for equity. Um, you cannot take this and say

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Speaker 1: not then, not to you know, wash away that this

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Speaker 1: was a successful prosecution, but to wide in that wide

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Speaker 1: in that perspective, and to say that this is, well,

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Speaker 1: this is great on on on some level, yes it is,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't end there, because what's great is that

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Speaker 1: we all moved together towards actual lived liberation, for actual equity,

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Speaker 1: for a justice system that is applied equally across the board.

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Speaker 1: Until we have that, we have to keep our heads

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Speaker 1: people are still thinking, well, ship, there's still cops out there,

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Speaker 1: and what what's their response going to be to this

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be more aggression, Is it going

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Speaker 1: if you know what what's going to happen? As everybody said,

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Speaker 1: bracing for the response if he was acquitted, Well, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about what the response is going to be, UH

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Speaker 1: from the police just nationwide. We've seen how petulant they

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Speaker 1: one sacrificial Yeah, and the there were like the key

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Speaker 1: that's not like what that like we needed the the

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Speaker 1: justice system requires the boss to say, I actually don't

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Speaker 1: think he should have murdered that person on camera. But

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Speaker 1: the what brought them to that point? I think why

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Speaker 1: There there are so many things that First of all,

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Speaker 1: give them one um and actually testify, like that's why

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Speaker 1: That this proves to me that that's absolutely right, that's

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Speaker 1: absolutely right that they need. Yeah, they're counting, they're counting

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Speaker 1: hoping that this caused people to go back to sleep.

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Speaker 1: It's it's like a, whoa, Okay, we get it. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Like that's truly the energy of it, you know, because

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Speaker 1: the you know, the way these fucking institutions preserve themselves.

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Speaker 1: Whether you know, there's always a coversion that will distract

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I hope that people understand that as long

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Speaker 1: have to watch another video, unfortunately, of somebody losing their

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Speaker 1: because it'll it's it's just moral licensing. I'm sure a

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Speaker 1: lot of people take this moment to morally license be like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know that Derek Chauvin didn't call uh huh. That's

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Speaker 1: one person I did you know, watching his eyes go

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Speaker 1: his hands behind his back, was it was there? There

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Speaker 1: It's not fast enough. It's not fast enough. And if

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Speaker 1: this diet of incremental quote unquote progress and letting that

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it may or may not, but I think

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Speaker 1: I don't want to take away anything from what has

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Speaker 1: And that's really fucked up to have to go through constantly.

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Speaker 1: But it's so many heroic things had to stack up

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Speaker 1: all right, So that is what's happening right now. This afternoon.

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Speaker 1: We recorded tomorrow's episode right before the verdict was read, so, um,

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Speaker 1: all tomorrow morning. Until then, be kind to each other,

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Speaker 1: be kind to yourselves, wear a mask, don't do nothing

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Speaker 1: about white supremacy, and we'll talk to you automo by

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Speaker 1: Black life still matters. Yeah, yeah,