1 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, Craig, I gotta go. He's like, I got 2 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: to give you to this racket. I gotta give you 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: this rack. Can you come down and meet me? On 4 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: second and second I was like, are you seeing Caitlin? 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: Just give it to Kate. I don't know if I'm 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: going to see Kitlynd tomorrow. I was like, oh my gosh, 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: I had to run there. I had to be in 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: to do a hit for breaker Is. At two fifteen, 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta do this with Caitlin. She's 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: got to go at three. Oh my god. Anyway, carry on. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: Speed Round, French Open Speed. 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Round, French Open Speed Round. Let's do this. Hey, everybody, 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to the French Open Speed Round recap episode where 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: we have more to talk about, possibly the further backwards 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: we scroll from the finals to other notable storylines. We 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: should start with the finals. To me, both very foregone 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: conclusions of matches. I know you liked the women's final 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: a lot for me. The both sides had the air 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: of inevitability to them that I don't I don't personally enjoy. 21 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you could look at eager 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: shy on TeX's match. When she's down four to three 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: in the third with one of the best servers in 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: the women's game serving, and say it was a foregone conclusion. 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: I would dare to ask her coach and her sports 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: psychologists and her fitness and her parents and her dad 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: up there and her you know, family, say, hey, is 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: this a foregone conclusion? Down four three in the third 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: and our little friend over serving. I would think not, Caitlin. Now, 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: if it was a set and three love and you 31 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: asked him that question, I would have said absolutely. But 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: the great thing about the sport that we'd love in 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: so much is that there is no clock. There is 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: no last ten seconds. You got to finish the match, 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: and we saw that on display throughout this entire event. 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Just go and ask a one arena Sabalenka if there 37 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: was a foregone conclusion, because you had told me at 38 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: five to two in the third set, down love thirty 39 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: on her surf, Mukhova struggling with what looked like maybe 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Krantz or whatever was going on with her, if there 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: was a chance she was going to win that match, 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: I would have said categorically, no way. And yet here 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: we stand with Carolina Muhover making it to her first 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: ever Grand Slam final, And may I say, great girl 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: has gone through so much adversity over the last few years. 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the fact that last year she 47 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: was in a battle and you know, having a great 48 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: friends open rolled around or left the tournament in tears, 49 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: didn't even get to finish the match. So it's a 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: testament to her, you know, her work ethic, her, you know, talent, 51 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: her never give up attitude. I mean, you know, she's 52 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: gone through a lot over the last couple of years. 53 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: And when you think about the way she came back 54 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: against Saba Lenka, you know, and this is a player 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: Caitlin that had never lost a top three match against 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: any player, a top three player. She was four and 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: oh against top three players in the world, and it 58 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: looked like for a second it was going to be 59 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: five and oh against the top three players in the world. 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: Because that's when I actually thought, at four to three serving, 61 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: I thought, oh my god, she's going to do this again. 62 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: She just really believes in herself in those moments. But 63 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: in the end, to get over the finish line to 64 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: win a Grand Slam takes great mental fortitude and the 65 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: fact that Eager at that moment, even though she had 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: a bit of a panic at the beginning of the 67 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: third set, you could tell she was getting very, very frustrated. 68 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: I thought the way Eager handled that game, particularly at 69 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: four to three, was testament to her ability to be 70 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: able to control her emotions in those moments, and you know, 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons she's now won four Grand Slams. 72 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: So she really she handled herself just a little bit 73 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: better in the end emotionally, and Carolina kind of fell 74 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: apart in the last couple of games, but it was 75 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: it was a great match. 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: Talk a little bit more about that, because I agree 77 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: it was a better match than I was anticipating. 78 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: And even when Mukova was up. 79 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: Mukhova's game is so amazing, It's so good. I was 80 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: so thrilled that she was back and playing her beautiful 81 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: all court game. The reason I was a little frustrated 82 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: that she didn't make the final is just because I 83 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: thought the final would have been more compelling, because I 84 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: don't know that on any day, and she gave Ego 85 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: such a good run, obviously more than I thought she 86 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: was going to. But I'm not sure she has enough 87 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: weapons to beat Ego on any day, much less in 88 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: a final Immigrants Slam where she's never been there before. 89 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: What do you think made it well? 90 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: I think there was a fourth to three game when 91 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: she was serving. I just think she didn't quite get 92 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: enough first serves in, and then Ega stepped up and 93 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, ripped a couple of returns and sort of 94 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, hit some incredible winners and Carolina just didn't 95 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: quite get enough first surs in. So I think I 96 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: disagree on the I disagree on the weapons because Mucova 97 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: has incredible weapons. I mean, her back end down the 98 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: line is as sweet as they come. Her forehand she 99 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 1: can hit either way very successfully. She has a big 100 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: serve and a very good second serve, better second serve 101 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: on the second court to the first court, and she 102 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: can come in finish points of the net that most 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: and that no girl can that. Not many of the 104 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: women on tour do that. Ash Barty could do it 105 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: because she had very competent volleys, but Mukhov can finish 106 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: the pointer than that, and so instead of letting the 107 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: ball bounce and having to hit a clean, big groundstroke 108 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: for a winner, she just finished it off with a volley, 109 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: so I disagree. I think he does have the tools. 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: I think this didn't come down to tools. This came 111 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: down to a little bit of physicality as well, that 112 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: she was getting a little bit tied right a little 113 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: bit at the end there, which sometimes hurts you with serving. 114 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: But I think what came down to it was not 115 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: the tools. It was the mental side of it and knowing, 116 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: holy shit, can I actually really win a slam and 117 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: that's a big, big step up. 118 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 119 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: I think for me, the matchup was more compelling that 120 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: I expected, and I was happy to see her playing 121 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: better offense than I was expecting. But again the match 122 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: I think what makes Egas so effective but also can 123 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: leave me a little cold, is just she plays such 124 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: good defense, and I think that's obviously an incredible testament 125 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: to her mental fortitude, to her movement. It's hard to 126 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: imagine a better mover, especially on this surface. But I 127 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: really liked the matchup with her and Sebalanka because it's 128 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: it's kind of similar to me to the Vavrinka Djokovic matchup, 129 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: where Vavrinka might not have as much consistency, but he 130 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: can hit through Novak, whereas if you put somebody, even 131 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: if they have an all court game up against Novak, 132 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: they kind of don't have the firepower. And I thought 133 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: that was sort of the Mukhova, you know, Yeah, her 134 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: back end of the line was a potent weapon, and 135 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: had she got more for serves in but yeah, I 136 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: just I don't see her being able to close points 137 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: effectively over three sets with IgA, and I think that 138 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: that was born out. Although don't get me wrong, I 139 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: was really happy she made it into a three set 140 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: match because I didn't give her much of a chance 141 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: at all. And I hope she's back there, and I 142 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: hope she's I mean, I would love to see her 143 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: doing really well on grass. That was really the first 144 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: time a lot of us got to know Mukhova's name 145 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: when she beat Carolina Plishkov, or her Czech country woman, 146 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: at Wimbledon a couple of years ago. 147 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: And just the way she did. 148 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: It, dismantling Carolina's big serve but also playing that all 149 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: court game, using the dimensions of the court, having those 150 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: great hands. To me, that's like such a win. So 151 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't want it to sell like I'm you know, 152 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: damning her with faint praise, But I just don't know 153 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: that she has the weapons to hit through Ega, especially 154 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: on clay, such that to me, whether Ega knew it 155 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: or not, she was always to me seemingly, you know, 156 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: the inevitable winner. But I again, I hope that on 157 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: grass we'll see a little bit more of a competitive showing. 158 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: Rubekina hopefully will stay healthy, Sebolenka hopefully comes back from this. 159 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: You know, I'd love to see some of our other 160 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: sort of more all court faves, like Daria Kazakiina on Sjibbur. 161 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: I think, you know, the matchup just wasn't as compelling 162 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: as I was sort of hoping it would be, even 163 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: though the match ended up being better men's final. 164 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: Talk about a not compelling matchup. 165 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Hey y'all. 166 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: It's springtime about to be summer. 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But then once 190 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: Snovak sort of like settles down and Novak look a 191 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: little bit like huffee puffy. In the first set he 192 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: was like kind of struggling physically because they were having 193 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: very taxing points at the beginning. But then once he 194 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: sort of settles in and realizes what he needs to do, 195 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: it was just inevitable. I mean that was a snooze fest. 196 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: The second and third set were just like, okay, let's 197 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: just shake hands, you know. So so yeah, I mean, 198 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: but give credit where it's you. The dude just locks 199 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: down that first set tiebreak. It's like, I don't think 200 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: he made an unforced error in any tie break in 201 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: the French Open, Like, are you beggin kidding me? The 202 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: guy just knows when to literally put the lock and 203 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: key away for his opponents, It's like, too bad, I'm 204 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: not making a mistake. If you really want to beat me, 205 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to hit winners, and good luck doing 206 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: that for three straight sets against me. So you know, 207 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: the inevitability of Novak once he won that first set 208 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: was just like, okay, just just close the door and 209 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: throw away the key. He's just no chance he's losing 210 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: that match against the guy that doesn't possess the weapons 211 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: or the serve to to hurt him. And you know, 212 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: we all knew that the match was going to be 213 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: the semi finals, and al Karaz learned a very big 214 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: lesson about when you go into these matches, you have 215 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: to be able to control your nerves, your anxiety level, 216 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: your stress, your fist pumping the you know, even when 217 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: he won the second set and he double you know, 218 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: double pumped to the crowd with his arms in the air. 219 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: I was like, my first immediate thought when he did 220 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: that was what are you doing? Like, yes, that's a 221 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: big set, Yes it's a great achieve man, but man, 222 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: you've got to win two more of those this guy. 223 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: So you got to calm down, bring all the levels down, 224 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: bring all the third time, like everything, you got to 225 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: bring it all down. And that's what Novak does better 226 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: than anybody. He's able to manage a five set match, 227 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: and even when he's not playing well, he just you 228 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: see him just sort of like go, Okay, I know, 229 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: I know, I'm going to be fine. I'm going to 230 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: be fine. And Alcarez has to learn that how to 231 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: how to handle that moment. 232 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: And it was just insane. 233 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it was nice to watch that match next 234 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: you and I see some of those. 235 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: Points, but it was insane to me that anybody thought 236 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: that Carlos Alcaraz was the favorite. I mean we were 237 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: talking about it the morning of the match. That's semi thinking, Okay, 238 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: well one of these players has twenty two Grand Slams 239 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: and it's not Carlos Alcaraz as exciting as he is, 240 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: as fun as he is, as much of the future 241 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: as he is, he's not there yet, and counting him 242 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: as the you know, massive favorite, he was my favorite. 243 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: I think going into the match, Novak was plus one 244 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: seventy eight and I think carl was like one minus 245 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: one thirty two or something. That is, are you fucking sorry? 246 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding me? The guy's on twenty two 247 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: Grand slams. He's won the French Open twice. Okay, I 248 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: know he lost alpros La last time, but that was 249 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: in Madrid at altitude, with the Spanish crowd, and the 250 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: fact that three best of three, and the fact that 251 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: Novak probably didn't know a lot about his opponent how 252 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: to like just dissect him, and over five sets he 253 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: learns how to take the scalpel and just slowly cut 254 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: you and cut you and cut you, like Andy Roddick says, 255 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: first he takes your legs. And so you know, the 256 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: bottom line is that I looked at those odds and 257 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: I was like, what I mean to at least I 258 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: would have at least made them worst case scenario even 259 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: money both of them, Like what are you doing like 260 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: I think this verav Rude was. You know, they were 261 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: both minus something or other. I was like, okay, that 262 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: makes sense, but like plus one seventy two against the great, 263 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: arguably the greatest player of all time, and this scenario, 264 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: I was like, you guys stupid. 265 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: It was. 266 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: It was a little bit like the hype of the 267 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: tomorrow made us forget about the president of today, which 268 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: is that nobody is more dangerous over the course of 269 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: five sets than Novak Chokovic. It doesn't matter how he starts, 270 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: although in this match he started profoundly perfectly. You got 271 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: the sense he was really fired up. It doesn't matter 272 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: if he's down, It doesn't matter if you think he's out. 273 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: He will will himself to victory. And the only real 274 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: time I've ever seen him lose is if somebody just 275 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: flat out hits through him, which we talked a little 276 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: bit about with like your stan Vabrincas. 277 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: Or if or Rafa last Rafa. 278 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: The French dismantled him, dismantled him. But there are very 279 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: very few matches where Novak doesn't look like he's in it, 280 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: much less in control of it. And one thing I 281 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: wanted to point out because it happened in this this 282 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: Casper Rude match in the first set, when things kind 283 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: of leveled out and got really tense towards the end 284 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: of that set. You know, this is when Novak starts 285 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 2: chipping at the op higher. 286 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: Sometimes there's like. 287 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: Crowd stuff with him, and it's really interesting because maybe 288 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: sometimes it's a medical time out, but like Novak creates, 289 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: I think some of this adversity out of nowhere, and 290 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: he does it so that he can find his extra gear. 291 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: You know, like for most players, that's a distraction where 292 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: you see them chipping about the line calls or getting 293 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: into it with the umpire and you think, oh, they've 294 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: lost it. 295 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: Now, they've lost focus. 296 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: And for him, like having this external factor, maybe it's 297 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: the crowd cheering for his opponent, which they're doing well. 298 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: He wants to but he likes, he wants to yell 299 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: at his box, but he can't really do like just 300 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: to let stuff out, not to actually yell at them 301 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: and you know, embarrass them or and he just wants 302 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: to let his emotions out, so he just wants something 303 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: to let it out against. And that was you know, 304 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: that argument with the umpire and all that sort of stuff. 305 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's no question about you know, he he 306 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: needs to have an outlet and that's just how he 307 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: gets through matches. And you know, Serena was a little 308 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: bit the same sometimes letting her emotion out, like she'll 309 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: break a racket and then just move on. So some 310 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: players need that and some don't. Some some it really 311 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: detracts from them, but for Novak it doesn't. But listen, 312 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing. I will put this on record. 313 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's more a lock to 314 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: win the Calendar Grand Slam this year than ever before. 315 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: And I know he came one match away from doing 316 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: it last time, but I thought the Olympics and all 317 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: the extra you know, hulaballah with that, and you know, 318 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: the vaccinate, you know, all the shit that was hitting 319 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: the found I just thought it was so much emotional 320 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: stuff going on around him. I think this year, I 321 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: actually think him not playing a couple of tournaments actually 322 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: has helped him physically. You know, you think about not 323 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: playing Indian Wells in Miami and he was able to 324 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: just you know, find his form at the French because 325 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: he got enough matches under his belt going into the 326 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: French Open and He's been very adamant saying his only 327 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: desire Grand Slams. He doesn't care about the smaller tournaments, 328 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: and you know, neither dicks Aerena after a certain amount 329 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: of time, or Roger or Rufa, And I think he 330 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: is as lock a Calendar Grand Slam as I've ever 331 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: seen in a player. And if he does it, just 332 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: put away the books and he will undoubtedly be the 333 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: greatest player of old time. 334 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: You know, true, the only the only person who might 335 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: be able to stop him. Milos Raunich came back today 336 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: on grass and I was thinking, would this be the 337 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: only person, with his massive serve who can be Novak Djokovic. 338 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: But it does seem inevitable that the Calendar Grand Slam 339 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: will be his, barring some crazy unforeseen circumstance or maybe 340 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: just like a really really you know, off day, or 341 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: maybe having the crowd on his side, like what happened 342 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: with Medvedev two summers ago, where you know, he just 343 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: looked like he was so spent because you said the Olympics. 344 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think undoubtedly, like it's a massive achievement, 345 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: it's just it for me, it happens to be like 346 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: a little bit boring, But you know it's not boring 347 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: that I want to quickly talk about before we jump, 348 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: because this was is supposed to be a sort of 349 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: quick recap episode to get us ready for your favorite season, 350 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: The Grass. What did you make of Chased Away coming 351 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: back to win after being off for quite a while, 352 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: coming back to win the women's doubles beating the two 353 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: lefties from North America, Taylor Townsend and Layla Fernandez in 354 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: the final. What a great outcome. They had a nice 355 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: three set battle that that tournament was such a that 356 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: draw was such a fun one to watch because of 357 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: all the sort of ups and downs, the defaults, you know, 358 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: the drama, and then seeing this unusual pairing in Taylor 359 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: and Layla was just sort of the fun injection, the 360 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: feel good story. 361 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: That I needed over the weekend. 362 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great, And actually, I you know, look 363 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: when you got your good and she comes back and 364 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: she just knows how to play the game at doubles 365 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: and you know, uses the angles, uses the speed of 366 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: the ball, hits the lobs, poaches, you know, all the 367 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: things at old school. Even though she plays from the back, 368 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: she's always comfortable in at the net. And you've got 369 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: to be in at the net to win doubles. I 370 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: just really believe that, you know, you've got to have 371 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: somebody who's good at the net, and you know, Sinneyakova 372 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: and Kredikova have proven that with Sneyakova being a pest 373 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: at the net. But my field good story was mea 374 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: cut winning mixed doubles after getting deeper folded from the doubles. 375 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: I thought that story we Liant was amazing and it 376 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: was such calmer. I think that she ended up winning 377 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: it because look, you can say what you want about 378 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: the default. You know, you're gonna have people that'll say, well, 379 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: you know, she did hit a kid and blah blah blah, 380 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: But it was not done in anger. She did look 381 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: at the ball kid before she hit it and just 382 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: thinking that the kid would catch it or at least 383 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: probably get out of the way. I don't know. But 384 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: then there's some that say, well, look, you gotta be 385 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: careful when you hit the ball. You can't be hitting 386 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: the kid like So you can argue both ways, right, 387 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: but I think, you know, there was a lot of 388 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: respect lost in the locker room with their opponents, like 389 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: pushing that, pushing that, pushing that envelope to get her defaulded. 390 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: Knowing what kind of a person me have cut to 391 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: is she would never do something like that on purpose. 392 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: And then she goes and wins the mixed doubles grant. 393 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: I just think me that was like the feel a 394 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: good story. And she bought the ball kid a present 395 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: and gave it to her after the tournament, and so 396 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: for me, other than for me, Carolina Mumkov getting to 397 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: the final was one of the best stories of the tournament. 398 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: I just I'm such a fan. I told her actually 399 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: at the start of this year in March, she should 400 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: be top ten in the world and she could achieve 401 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: that by the US Open, and she said, I'll drink 402 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: to that if that happens. But she came one match, 403 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: one match short of getting into the top ten already, 404 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: so I expect her to be in the top ten 405 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: by for sure after the US Open. I just think 406 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: she's such a great player and hopefully she can stay 407 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: healthy and if that's the case, that's my storyline that 408 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm so happy with. And I'm hugely congratulatory to eager 409 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: to win with a lot of pressure on her shoulders. 410 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: But it's going to be fun Wimbledon's going to be great. 411 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: I think Rebarkiness the favorite there in my opinion, and Saballenka, 412 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: I think they're the two probably best players on grass 413 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: unless Ons finds her form, and I think Ons is. 414 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: You know, look, it was a bit of a disaster 415 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: the way she lost her match with the French, but 416 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: I think given the fact that she's had a lot 417 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: of injuries this year, I think she'll feel really good 418 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: about going on the grass because she will have had 419 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: enough tennis under a belt, and we all know how 420 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: great she is on grass, and nobody wants to play 421 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: her on the surface. So I think Eager, Sablenka, Akeina, 422 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: those three the three, and I really think that Caroline moveover. 423 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: If she stays healthy, I think she is a real 424 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: threat at Wimbledon. 425 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: That is what I am truly hoping for. Because as 426 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 2: compelling and great as her all court game is to 427 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: watch on clay, it seems Taylor made for off the ground. 428 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: She said it quarts, she said it off to the French, 429 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: she said it, she goes, she goes. I plays being 430 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: my worst surface, So I'm really proud of myself. I said, yeah, girl, 431 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: if this is your worst surface, luck, good luck everybody 432 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: on hardcourt and on ungrass. 433 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: She's going to be a real Carolyn mclover. 434 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: We are rooting for you and watching you for the 435 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: rest of the season. Renee, I gotta go pick up 436 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: my kiddo. We'll get at this one real fast. We'll 437 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: do a more comprehensive grass court check in in the 438 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: week or two to come, because there's already started to 439 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: be some incredible matches. 440 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: I know it's your favorite time of. 441 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: The year, and uh, thanks for listening. 442 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 3: Everybody, See you next time. 443 00:20:55,080 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: Thanks everyone, see you, saying baby