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Speaker 1: Some people got Uber, some people got door Dash, some

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Speaker 2: We have really talked about getting like your feet finders going.

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Speaker 1: We have that has been that has been brought up,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I think I think this is the

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Speaker 1: Okay, well do we think that op is actually cheating

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Speaker 1: and getting some money on the side. All feelings, no facts,

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Speaker 3: One coin is yes, one coin is no. The one

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Speaker 3: She's a queen.

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Speaker 3: The other one is she's a OnlyFans queen. She's a

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Speaker 1: True, one hundred percent. I think number one. I think

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Speaker 1: He went to Planet Tate and just just planted his

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Speaker 3: on the Andrew tape vandwagon. Only that checks out.

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Speaker 2: I've in shocked, Riley. You've you gave us a crazy

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Speaker 2: one today. You delivered today.

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Speaker 1: I told him it didn't sound like there was anything

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Speaker 1: I told him to leave, and he said he would

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Speaker 2: What wow, oh wow.

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Speaker 1: I know so many people here insisted he was having

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Speaker 2: Also.

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Speaker 1: Please be assured, I do not think I am low

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Speaker 2: Thank god. Wow, because you are a prize.

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Speaker 1: You're a prize, Opie A treasure to be found and

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Speaker 1: all who are helping me see that I was being

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Speaker 2: Marriage that was all ready over.

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Speaker 1: Wow, and we have a quick relevant comment one last

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Speaker 1: Rectroactively punishing me for not being a virgin at the

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Speaker 1: who would sleep with a married colleague is higher value

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Speaker 2: Yes, he admitted to having an affair.

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Speaker 1: For several months, he kept trying to say that it

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Speaker 2: So the standards are different. Wow, this is this is

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Speaker 2: the executive track man, dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, he's on the executive track to getting dumped.

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Speaker 2: Onto the update. Hi, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going to post another update, at least not

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Speaker 2: So this is.

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Speaker 1: Specifically in response to those who are checking in on me.

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Speaker 2: Boom.

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Speaker 1: He was supposed to come get a stuff on Tuesday

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Speaker 2: All poor Amy.

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Speaker 1: Oven some people called in the comments, but yes, she's

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Speaker 2: Oh no, that may good. God, it does, Riley, it does.

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Speaker 1: He told me this on text, so I have proof

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Speaker 1: of the affair in writing.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: That is good, I guess, and it's not just his

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want him to keep jerking me around on

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Speaker 1: slash them in the house. I would not either, no.

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Speaker 1: I already had arrange for a friend to come over

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Speaker 1: So the two of us spent the evening packing his clothes.

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Speaker 2: And other personal effects.

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Speaker 1: The movers came yesterday and got the boxes and furniture

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Speaker 1: apparently Amy's apartment is small. Who's high value? Now, Riley?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 1: It'd be crazy if high value meant like earning two

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Speaker 1: know that, what if we what if we attributed value

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Speaker 1: to money? I know it's a crazy idea. I know

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Speaker 1: it's insane, but I mean.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like it coordinates. Could we too? It's

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Speaker 2: too much, right, I mean it's too big of a stretch, Riley.

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Speaker 2: All is based on your sexual status. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I provided detailed inventory and photos of everything, which he approved,

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Speaker 1: so he can't say that I.

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Speaker 2: Broke or otherwise. You're owner stuff?

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Speaker 1: Also very smart And after that, yesterday I went to

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And I met with a lawyer who said I had

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Speaker 1: a good case for grounds of adultery and mental cruelty.

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Speaker 1: If I want Slash need to go that route. At

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Speaker 1: a minimum, it's leverage to get him to settle quickly

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Speaker 1: and quietly, which, honestly, I got a question Riley and

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Speaker 1: everyone watching, you have these things you could do in

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, yeah, it's worth it. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: it would be worth it. I mean, she's doing fair off,

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Speaker 3: but like she didn't need it, but he's like degrading

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Speaker 3: her for no reason. I would definitely twist a knife,

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Speaker 3: just like get everything you can out of.

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Speaker 1: It, because then a jury has to hear all of

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Speaker 1: the things that OP is sharing here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the jury.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unless you got like a crazy lawyer, which they

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Speaker 3: both have crazy money.

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Speaker 2: That's true. We really are fighting fire with fire. You

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Speaker 2: bring up a great point, Riley.

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Speaker 1: We are fighting fire with fire, but OP has crazy ammunition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: They have the same soldiers, but she has like nuclear

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Speaker 1: Bazuoka ready to be ready to blow, ready.

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Speaker 2: To squeeze the trans or receipts. She has the receipts, dude.

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Speaker 1: I also lock down all of the finances within the

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Speaker 1: I changed the account beneficiaries and all that fun stuff too,

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Speaker 1: and change the locks to the house. I decided to

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Speaker 1: take the advice of the commenters and I am getting

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Speaker 1: rid of the bed and other bedroom furniture I shared

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Speaker 1: with him.

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Speaker 2: I'm donating it.

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Speaker 1: Someone is coming this afternoon to haul it all off,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to completely redecorate the bedroom to my

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Speaker 2: That will take a bit staying in one of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's solo value that she is sleeping in the

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I'm also taking a spa weekend away, leaving tomorrow morning

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Speaker 1: and coming back Sunday, just to get a change of

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Speaker 1: next week. And yes, even after buying the gaming setup,

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Speaker 1: I have plenty of fun money left in my account

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Speaker 1: well as my getaway with playing leftover. So here's the

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Speaker 1: frugality where accounts. I also love how now like spending

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Speaker 1: money on the lawyers to destroy your husband's life is

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Speaker 1: the fun money, which it quite honestly is.

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Speaker 2: It is fun, Yeah, but it sucks that you have

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Speaker 2: to like use it for that.

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Speaker 1: Sucks that you got to use it for that. Those

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Speaker 1: are the main updates for the moment. I'm doing better

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Speaker 1: than expected, I think, and realizing more day by day

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Speaker 1: that it really was not a good marriage. You could

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Speaker 1: say that again, at least not for the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years. When he started expecting me to do everything

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Speaker 1: our lives outside of work with no help and little

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Speaker 1: to no gratitude. Amy sure is going to have her

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Speaker 1: hands full. He is going to do it to Amy tenfold.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, earning two hundred graindy years hard.

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Speaker 1: I just have the sneakingest suspicion that Amy being a

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Speaker 2: To put it lightly, yeah, and like one.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Amy will start relying on him and

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Speaker 3: Opie's good because she has her own money. She's doing good.

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Speaker 3: She has plenty of money to take care of the situation.

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Speaker 3: Amy sounds like she's like in a not so hot

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Speaker 3: spot because she's pregnant and relying on this guy and

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Speaker 3: like whenever this happens to her, because like off the

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Speaker 3: track record of yep Opie's husband, it feels like Amy's

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Speaker 3: about to get a lot of heat from like the divorce,

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Speaker 3: and like all his stress is just gonna go at Amy,

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Speaker 3: and right, that's not gonna be good at all.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna do his mental mind bending and be like,

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Speaker 2: why is this all your fault?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Why are you making this lawsuit cred? If it

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Speaker 1: weren't for you, I wouldn't be being sued by my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, God, this is horrible. There's an edit.

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Speaker 1: Once again. I cannot thank everyone here enough. I need

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Speaker 1: to get ready for my spa weekend away. So apologies

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Speaker 1: if so apologies in advance if I am not responding

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Speaker 1: to your comments or dms. But I am really grateful

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Speaker 1: for all the support and encouragement. Hopefully there won't be

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Speaker 1: any more notable updates for a while. I really just

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Speaker 1: want a smooth and easy divorce and to get on

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Speaker 1: with my life, So please keep your fingers cross to

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Speaker 1: me some relevant comments the incoming child. Also, he was

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Speaker 1: a hardcore child free person before. Ah okay, I didn't

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Speaker 1: want kids either, but he was especially militant about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he changed his mind, but it doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem like this was exactly a plained pregnancy. Yes, Plus

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Speaker 1: he can't even be bothered to put his own laundry

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Speaker 1: How is he going to deal with an infant anyway?

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Speaker 1: Not really my problem, and I guess he'll figure it

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Speaker 1: out or not. The sad thing is who loses the

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Speaker 1: most in the scenario, the baby, because like, probably what

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Speaker 1: will happen is he's like, uh, like everything we've talked about, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you were my side piece and it was all fun

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Speaker 1: and games, but now you're like pregnant and like want

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Speaker 1: to be my main thing, and so I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: get a side piece unless you just do all these

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Speaker 1: things for me and try, but it'll never be good

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Speaker 1: enough and then I'll just leave you in the child

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Speaker 1: that's that's so bad.

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Speaker 2: I hate that for the kid, and like the kid,

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Speaker 2: like hopefully, hopefully Ope becomes like a good dad. But like,

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Speaker 2: looking at this Jesus are high. Yeah, he's not gonna

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Speaker 2: be a good God?

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Speaker 1: Is he her superiod at work? My understanding is that

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Speaker 1: they are peers. He isn't her boss. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it was against the rules for coworkers of the same

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Speaker 1: level today, at least not as some of our well

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Speaker 1: his really friends met at work there and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: really an issue. So for that reason, I think I'll

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Speaker 1: stay out of it, especially as I do want him

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Speaker 1: to stay gainfully employed until the divorce is completely final.

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Speaker 2: There we go, yeah, because then you get more bred

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Speaker 2: that way.

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Speaker 1: Still, I agree it's awfully foolish to have an affair

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Speaker 1: at work that results in a pregnancy while one of

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Speaker 1: the people is still married. When you put it all

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Speaker 1: in a sentence like that, I mean, you can't hide

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Speaker 1: that messiness. It's going to be physically obvious. And then

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Speaker 1: the next comment, how is a twenty four year old

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Speaker 1: making the same amount of money as your ex? They

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Speaker 1: are both in the executive training program for fairly recent

445
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: NBA graduates. Amy is apparently some sort of prodigy who

446
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 1: got hers at twenty one. My soon to be X

447
00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,240
Speaker 1: started out in supply chain management than the company paid

448
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 1: for his NBA, which he finished a couple of years ago,

449
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 1: and after that he moved to the financial side and

450
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 1: was accepted into the training program earlier this year. She's

451
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,360
Speaker 1: twenty four apparently graduated from college at eighteen and got

452
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 1: her NBA at twenty one, and he just got his

453
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 1: NBA a couple of years ago. Was on a different

454
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,880
Speaker 1: business operation tracks before switching to finance.

455
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 2: So all right, she's not the intern. She actually she's

456
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 2: low key killing it.

457
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 3: But like that's good though, Like that Amy won't be

458
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 3: stuck financially with.

459
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 1: For the baby. Yeah, for the baby, You're exactly right.

460
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: At least the baby won't be like left out to dry.

461
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 1: Like Amy's very early in her career and is probably

462
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 1: going to be able to provide pretty handl.

463
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 3: Also another thing to note, Opie and the husband are

464
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,159
Speaker 3: both thirty three, so a thirty three year old with

465
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 3: a twenty four year old.

466
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: But we have another update.

467
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm updating again here because a lot of kind people

468
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 1: have been checking in with well wiszed with well wishes.

469
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 2: And to see how I'm holding up. Nice.

470
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 1: Sorry for not updating sooner, but as soon as I

471
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: get back from the SPA weekend. As mentioned in my

472
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: last update. I dove into working with my attorney on

473
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 1: the divorce settlement and didn't think it was wise to

474
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 1: put my business on the internet, however, anonymously with all

475
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: the legal issues up in the air.

476
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 2: Again, very smart of op.

477
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: The good news is that we were able to come

478
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 1: to an agreement pretty quickly and everything is now executed.

479
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 2: Wow, she does not play man. She got it done.

480
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for the court date, which could take

481
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: another couple of months, but my lawyer says the agreement

482
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 1: is air tight. It wasn't quite as favorable as most

483
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: of you, all lovely folks, probably would have wanted for me,

484
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: but I was highly motivated to get it done fast.

485
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: I did everything that really mattered to me first. First,

486
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: I did everything that really mattered to me.

487
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 2: First.

488
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: The house I inherited from my grandmother is one hundred

489
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: percent mine, along with all the furnishings and other effects

490
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 1: in the house. My own retirement accounts and my fun

491
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: money accounts are all mine as well. Otherwise, I did

492
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 1: have to give him seventy five percent of the other

493
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: cash assets. Really I would have released got like fifty

494
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: to fifty. That's what I was expecting, like oh, it's

495
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: quick and we just split it. But because it's his fault,

496
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: although he wasn't on the title for the house, he

497
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: did contribute substantially to the renovation we did, as well

498
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: as upkeeps sense then in the house has appreciated very

499
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 1: substantially in the years.

500
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 2: We moved in.

501
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: It's fine as I still have plenty of money, especially

502
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: as I'm quite frugal most of the time, and I

503
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: can rebuild cash savings, and I can rebuild cash savings quickly.

504
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: Our agreement also states that neither.

505
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: Of us have claim on each other's past, present, or

506
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 1: future earnings, so in case something happens and he loses

507
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 1: his job before the court day, I won't be liable

508
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: for any alimony. This is actually overall a very good

509
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: deal for me and gives me a lot of security.

510
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: So I guess it's like, okay, like I lose out

511
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: on some of these assets, but when it comes to

512
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: like future earning potential and like all the potential things

513
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: that could go wrong, op is like safe and secure.

514
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: It's just like I'd just rather have that than maybe

515
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: keep a little bit of the existing assets but leave

516
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: something wide open for something to go down. I'm actually

517
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: curious for all of our divorce Say out there, what

518
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: was your divorce arrangement?

519
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 2: Like, what did you get?

520
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: And in your own personal opinion, how does Op's divorce

521
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: settlement stack up in the world of divorces?

522
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you should get a good deal or not?

523
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm I'm just kind of guessing based on

524
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: what Op's saying. But maybe it's maybe it's crap, maybe

525
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: it's amazing.

526
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

527
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm curious to knowing any divorce lawyers too. I'm I'm

528
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: sure we got a few of you. I'm sure we

529
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: got a few of you in there. In case anyone

530
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: is wondering how we got this done so quick. Our

531
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: state allows divorce on mutual consent grounds, which basically allows

532
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: for a quick divorce without a legal separation period if

533
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: the parties come to an agreement about all the finances

534
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: and assets. Given that Amy is pregnant my soon to

535
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: be ex, let's call him Joe. Yes, like the psychopath

536
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: on the show you which me and probably.

537
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: Have been referencing. Seriously, what have you been referencing that for? Again?

538
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: Was it you? I did reference it, but I forget

539
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 2: for what it was like. It was like Oh yeah, dude,

540
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 2: that's that's tragic comic if you know what Riley was

541
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 2: talking about.

542
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: So my soon to be X was also very motivated

543
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: to not drag this out now for the real dirt

544
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: of the update, last weekend, shortly after all of our

545
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: papers will signed, Amy reached out to me.

546
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: Oh yup, she.

547
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: Asked if we could meet and talk. Okay, real quick predictions.

548
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't think things are going so well. So she's

549
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: gonna get like some like intel, like, hey, give me out.

550
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: You really do you really think she's gonna help you?

551
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: I don't think so. But like this poor girl's wrapped

552
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: up into something and she's way too she.

553
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: Is, dude, kid because if there's no kid, maybe she

554
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: can skate out of it and be okay with the kid.

555
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: Now it's all you know, what if he tries to

556
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: get custody. What if he does absolutely nothing and just

557
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: leaves and leaves Ope leaves Op leaves Amy to be

558
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: the one to you know, pay for care for the baby,

559
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 1: which she seems smart and capable and like financial earning,

560
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: but being.

561
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: A single parent is not easy any fun.

562
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess Candy, But you know what, do

563
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: you think she's gonna talk about I think she's like,

564
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: he is cheating on me already, he said, I think

565
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna say exactly, just repeat verbatim a script back

566
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: to Amy.

567
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: The whole you're low value.

568
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: You're not a virgin anymore definitely has said that. Well,

569
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: we thought the cycle is short already, with like, oh,

570
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: once you go from a side piece of the main piece,

571
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: that cycle could be pretty short.

572
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: But as soon as you're.

573
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 3: Not a virgin anymore, low value virgins only virgins only,

574
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: and as soon as I make you're not a virgin,

575
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 3: get out kick to the curve.

576
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: Perhaps I should have declined, but I will admit that

577
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: I was curious about this twenty four year old prodigy

578
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: and until recently a virgin god person who was Joe's

579
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: a fair partner.

580
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: So I agreed to meet her for lunch.

581
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: So the first thing is that Amy is very pregnant,

582
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: like third trimester. She is confirmed. It's confirmed that she

583
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: is due in mid October, which means she's had the

584
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: baby by now wow, which means the affair has been

585
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: going on a whole lot longer than Joe let on whatever.

586
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: It's water under the bridge. As the divorce is almost final. However,

587
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: after some polite but chilly pleasantries, she asked me when

588
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to be moving out of the house. Wait

589
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: a minute, Riley, we might have mispredicted over here. She

590
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: might have been sent in, as you know, reconnaissance to

591
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: retrieve the house.

592
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: She's brainwashed, dude.

593
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: Bro, and he probably just lied to her. I was like,

594
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: she's gonna yell, let me chew me out. She owes

595
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: me the house. Just tell her to just you know,

596
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: go in, sweet talker and you know you're pregnant, whatever,

597
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: like sweet talker, get on your side, and then get her.

598
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: Give us the house. Get the house, babe, Get the house.

599
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: Get our house, because we're rightly she's overstaying her time

600
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: in it, obviously, but because surely Joe has been patient

601
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: enough with him giving me time to get my life together.

602
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: And her apartment is small and they needed space for

603
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: the baby. I told her she must be mistaken, as

604
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: the house is mine. I inherited it from my grandmother,

605
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: but asked her what else Joe told her about me

606
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 1: and our marriage, And it was actually really beautiful, just kidding.

607
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: It was all lies. God lie after lie, Joe lies,

608
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: and that's it. Tumbled out of her mouth. Along with

609
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: crumbs of the real story. These gems include well, it

610
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: was true that she and Joe met at work, but

611
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: it was about a year ago when they were both

612
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: interviewing for the executive training program that they're in now.

613
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: Amy said, though, that they first became friends before getting

614
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: together romantically. Apparently, Joe told her he was legally Joe

615
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: told her he was legally Apparently, Joe told her that

616
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: he was legally married, but that we had been separated

617
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: in spirit and living our separate lives since twenty twenty,

618
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: but that he didn't want to kick me out and

619
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: make me helmless during the pandemic because I didn't make

620
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: much money and we live.

621
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: With high cost of living.

622
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: Joe told Amy that we met in our early twenties

623
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: and that he was mentoring me in a GED prep program,

624
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: that I was a high school dropbollt who was struggling

625
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: with addiction, and that he essentially rescued me, helped me

626
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: to get me clean, tutored me for my GED and

627
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: had been supporting me through since graduation and had been

628
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: supporting me since through gradually working on college classes. He

629
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: told Amy that I was working for prepping he told

630
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: Amy that I was working on prepping for an IT

631
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: career and was currently making forty five grand a year

632
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: as a help desk technician when she is making two

633
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars a year, to be clear, and

634
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: that he wanted to make sure that I could at

635
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: least afford a studio apartment. He told Amy that we

636
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: had separated because I had relapsed and he couldn't have

637
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: a meaningful relationship with a drug addict.

638
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: Ugh, this is all lies.

639
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: My entire history of drug use is occasionally sharing a

640
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: joint in college, maybe four to five times total.

641
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: Never anything harder.

642
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: It's like, listen, listen, op relapsed in her senior year.

643
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: I know she's twenty three. I know she's thirty three.

644
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: I know that, but listen, she had half a joint

645
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: her senior year. Can I risk her doing that again? Riley,

646
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. As Opie's filthy dirtback husband, I don't

647
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: know if I can go through it again. Seeing her

648
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: giggle a little bit and ask weird funny questions that

649
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I can recover from that.

650
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: That is a hard thing to go through.

651
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's honestly, if I'm being honest, here, that's

652
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: the hardest thing anyone's ever gone through is watching their

653
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: partner share half a joint at twenty two years old.

654
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: And then she's like.

655
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: Laughing a little bit, having a good time, having a

656
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: good time. That is low value, except right there, be

657
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: your own drug.

658
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: And take it.

659
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: God, it is true that Amy was a twenty four

660
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: year old virgin prodigy.

661
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: What a linked title. Oh my god.

662
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: She seemed dismade that Joe had told me that although

663
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: at least the virgin part, she said it wasn't a

664
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: moral issue. She was really just focused on school and

665
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: work and didn't make any time to date and that,

666
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: and that generally guys her age seemed mostly interested in

667
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: casual hookups, especially the younger finance bro types, and she

668
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: just wasn't interested in that. But that Joe took the

669
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: time to get to know her and was actually interested

670
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: in a meaningful relationship. Nice, our hero, Joe. Joe's been

671
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: a good guy here. Oh yeah, the sweetest guy on

672
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: planet Earth. I asked her if their pregnancy was planned.

673
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: She said, no, of course not, but it was a

674
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: miracle because Joe had a vasectomy.

675
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: So they took that as a sign that they should

676
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: keep the baby.

677
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Uh No, Joe did not have a vasectomy.

678
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: As we were planning to be a child free couple.

679
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: I suggested it a couple of times over the years.

680
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: He firmly stated that he didn't want to alter his

681
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: body like that, so he left the birth control. So

682
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: he left the birth control. Is my responsibility. My man

683
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: wanted to bust a nut free range. That's what that

684
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: was all about.

685
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: These lies, Oh my gosh, insane. It should be illegal.

686
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: It really does seem that Amy is pretty blameless here.

687
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean, those of us who have been around the

688
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: block would likely know, would likely know not to believe

689
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: a guy who claims to be separated but is still

690
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: legally married and living with his wife, but without her

691
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: having any dating slash relationship experience, I can see where

692
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: she would take him at his word about everything, which

693
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. You're twenty four, you've literally never had

694
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: a relationship before. That's I think that's pretty reasonable and realistic.

695
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: After all, I don't know anything was a miss with

696
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 1: Joe until a couple of months ago, and I was

697
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 1: married to him for ten years in a twelve year

698
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: relationship as well.

699
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: I gotta wonder, what do we always say on the show, Riley?

700
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: The red flags had to be had to come earlier.

701
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: Where were they? Riley was just like, Oh, we've seen

702
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: a lot of things.

703
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: Wait wait, hold time, all the things, wait, all the

704
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: things you've ever said on the two thousand Stories, So

705
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: wait a second.

706
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: Riley the sweat like he was just about to fail

707
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: the popup, just like going through my archives. Like I always.

708
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: Said, Riley, no matter what, you always get an A plus

709
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: in my book.

710
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: Dude.

711
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: Thanks now. Of course, Amy didn't want to believe me.

712
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: So now we're getting to uh op spilling the tea.

713
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: And I don't blame her for that even either. After all,

714
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: she's been in a relationship with Joe for a year

715
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: and is seven plus months pregnant with his baby who's

716
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: coming very soon.

717
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: Ready or not.

718
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't immediately refuse everything she said, but she showed.

719
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: But I showed her a couple of things, first, a

720
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: picture of me and my late teens with my grandmother

721
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: in front of my house, and also my LinkedIn profile

722
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: which shows my current job and education. I told her

723
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: to do what she wanted with that info and to

724
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: please stay safe and take care of herself and then

725
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: said my goodbyes. Yes, it was very odd, unexpected and surreal.

726
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: Sorry that this is long.

727
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: But I figured my following tale will be interesting. In

728
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: this turn, I am not sure if I will update again,

729
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: maybe in a year or so, when I have truly

730
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: processed everything with lots of therapy and I'm hopefully onto

731
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: living my best life. As for Joe and Amy, it's

732
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: up to them to find whatever their path is. I

733
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: do hope that she wises up and leaves him, but

734
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: sadly I'm not confident about that. I'm neither am I.

735
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure he will be able to spin all this

736
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: in his favor, because that's what he does, but I

737
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: also can't make it my problem anymore, and looking to

738
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: the future, have some more relevant comments. I think I've

739
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: determined that because Amy's pregnancy was progressing, he was starting

740
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: to get nervous about how he would juggle everything and

741
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: decided to preemptively blow up the marriage in order to

742
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: get the upper hand. So none of those things were

743
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: genuine critiques. They were just designed to throw me off balance,

744
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: which does kind of make sense, Like, God, what insane,

745
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: ridiculous command. So here's a question in a theory. Is

746
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: it possible that Joe actually won't do anything like what

747
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: he said to Ope, because he was like, let me

748
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: think of the most ridiculous things that could possibly like

749
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: come up with and just kick that to her until

750
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: she's like, this is insane, I'm leaving, which technically worked,

751
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: and he was just he wasn't like, oh, this is

752
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: actually me. I'm just saying these things that I believe

753
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: is like so insane that it will just cause my wife.

754
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: To leave me, like sort of like his like escape.

755
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like like because what we were kind of theorizing,

756
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: and I was kind of theorizing like, oh, I think

757
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: he's going to go to Amy and just pull the

758
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: exact same script on her. Yeah, But is it possible

759
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: that he was actually like, no, let me say the

760
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: most insane, ridiculous things out just to like get her

761
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: to kind of like leave me, like with the requests

762
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: of like, oh, basically do like a five star banquet

763
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: every day and like you know, dressed like a nineteen

764
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: fifty's housewife.

765
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, gotcha, like he would, yeah, yeah, yeah, And.

766
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: He's he's probably his plan, yeah for sure, And you know,

767
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's somewhere in the middle. But I'm kind

768
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: of curious there's a possibility that he wasn't like about

769
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: I guess those spring things specifically, but was using it

770
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: as like a way to just like blow up the marriage.

771
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: But I still think he's in that in that world.

772
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: But maybe also was like, Okay, I know that these

773
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: requests will onto Another comment, how did she take it

774
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: when you said that you owned the house? She didn't

775
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: really believe me about the house and said that we

776
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: were going to have to talk to Joe about it.

777
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: She said she hoped that I would think about it

778
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: and not be so stubborn, and that the offer remained

779
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: open to take the money. And that the offer remained

780
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: open to take the money. She offered to move out

781
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: by the end of September.

782
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: Oh, so she was like, here you go, get out.

783
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: I'll give you some money if you move out, like

784
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: a little early. Wow.

785
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: Nikes, not nay, sweetie. Maybe another comment, maybe the reason

786
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: he didn't have more fun money was that he was

787
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: spending it on her op Oh yes, definitely a lot

788
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: of the golf days now we're seeing were actually spent

789
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: with her, not golfing, So he wasn't the one playing

790
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: with the balls. Yeah, she was, and he only played

791
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: golf once or twice a month, not weekly as he

792
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: represented to me. Apparently, he convinced her the reason he

793
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: could never spend the night with her during most of

794
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: the past year before he moved in with her was

795
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: that I tended to get high in the evenings and

796
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: he was always worried I would ode and he wanted

797
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: to make sure he could.

798
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on me.

799
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Wow, the kind of sick, twisted human

800
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 1: you have to be to tell a lie like.

801
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: That on your own wife, on your own wife who

802
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: you've shared shared twelve years with.

803
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean, like going through life with someone for twelve years,

804
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: like there is some sort of connection there of like,

805
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: all right, you, they undoubtedly had a hand in, like,

806
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, shaping you and your life and like all

807
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: these things. And you would think, you would think, Riley,

808
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: you would think. On to another comment, did you tell

809
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 1: her that he really didn't have a vasectomy? I did

810
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: tell her, But her answer to that was to insist

811
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: that he did have one. He just didn't want to

812
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: tell me because he had only gotten one. Because although

813
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: he did want kids, he didn't want to bring them

814
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: into a world with a drug addicted spouse. God, he

815
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: just doesn't get any better. In fact, he gets way worse.

816
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: But Riley, I think you need to buckle your seatbelt.

817
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: You know why why we have the final update, Oh

818
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: my gosh.

819
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 2: Of the story. So on to the Joe and Amy front.

820
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: After my last post, all was quiet for a couple

821
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: of weeks until Amy, her due date quickly approaching, reached

822
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: out again to ask if I'd given any more thought

823
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: her offer to pay me seventeen grand to vacate the

824
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: house quickly so that she and Joe can move in again.

825
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: This is the house I inherited that I own, free

826
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: and clear, but Joe told her he owns it and

827
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: that he was giving me time to get my finances

828
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: together before evicting me. At this point, I decided to

829
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: package up a lot more evidence of Joe's lies to

830
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: send to Amy.

831
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 2: Now we're cooking. Now we're cooking.

832
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: I sent her a copy of the deed and my

833
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: property tax records showing that the house is in my

834
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: name only. I sent her copies of my diplomas to

835
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: prove that I am not, in fact a high school dropout.

836
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: I sent her some info on various professional associations. I'm

837
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: involved in awards that I have won. To show that

838
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: I actually do have a senior level job and I

839
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: am not unemployed. As well as proof of my income,

840
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: I send her copies of all of my drug test

841
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: results the past five years.

842
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: I have a drug free workplace and they test two

843
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: to three times a year.

844
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: Wow, that came in handy, My goodness, Maybe we should

845
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: institute that policy. I sent her time stamped photos and

846
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: text exchanges to show that Joe was still having a

847
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: romantic relationship with me until July this year. Nothing silacious,

848
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: just photos of us showing some g rated affection, exchanging

849
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: loving words over text, etc. I even found a text

850
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: exchange from a couple of years ago when we last

851
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: discussed about him potentially getting a vysectomy, with his final

852
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 1: decision not to proceed with one. A couple days later,

853
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: she responded and she still thought I was just kidding.

854
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: She believed me. Oh shoot, we got it.

855
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: However, in the end didn't matter, as Joe convinced her

856
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: that he had lied for very good reasons.

857
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 2: The way they.

858
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: Both tell the story, they met at work and were

859
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: incredibly drawn to each other in a way that felt inevitable. However,

860
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: due to Joe being married. He felt that if Amy

861
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 1: knew he was to that point happily married, she would

862
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: either turn away from him and miss out on the

863
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: love of a lifetime, or she would go ahead with

864
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: an affair but be consumed with guilt. So to avoid

865
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: either of these outcomes, and especially to save poor precious

866
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: Amy from the guilt, Joe decided to create a alternative

867
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: narrative in which he was in a marriage that had

868
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: ended for all intentsive purposes years ago in all ways,

869
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: but legally because I was an uneducated drug addict who

870
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: kept relapsing and couldn't get my life together. That was

871
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: so she could essentially believe he was single. How noble

872
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: of Joe to bear all of that guilt alone and

873
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: see Unfortunately, Amy said she understood and forgave him immediately. Amy, No,

874
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: that's not what you do with a baby do any day.

875
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: I suppose I can kind of understand the desire to

876
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: justify the lies, even though the reality is horrifying. I

877
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: suppose it's not my problem anymore. Amy did have her

878
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: baby over a month ago, and I guess she and

879
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: Joe will make whatever life together or not it's meant

880
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: to be. As for me, I'm doing pretty well. Actually

881
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: got a big promotion at work. I'm not managing people,

882
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: which I don't want to do, but we'll be working

883
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: on higher profile projects with a forty percent raise, which

884
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: starts after the new year. The house is really big

885
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: for just me, so I have a couple of roommates now.

886
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: A friend who is also going through a divorce moved in,

887
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 1: as well as a younger mid twenties cousin who moved

888
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: to the city for work. We're all having a lot

889
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: of fun together. I'm not really ready to date yet,

890
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: still in therapy processing all of the marital fallout which

891
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: listen op, take your time.

892
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: Girl girl.

893
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but getting there and looking forward to whatever new

894
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: adventures life has to offer.

895
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: This will probably be my last.

896
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: Post in this series anyway, as a saga of Joe

897
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: and Amy, or at least my role in it is finished.

898
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: With us legally divorce and having no ongoing financial or

899
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: other ties. The best thing I can do is leave

900
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: them to their own story and get on with my

901
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: Joe free next phase. Thank you all for listening to

902
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: my story for much of twenty twenty three. I do

903
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: appreciate the support and a helpful advice I've received along

904
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: the way.

905
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, Wow, that was a doozy. That was crazy

906
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: doozy of a story.

907
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: Amy has made the decision to stop here and move

908
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: on with her life.

909
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.

910
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: Do you think in the spirit of petty revenge that

911
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: if you were in sorry op shoes, If you were

912
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: in op shoes, would you want to say, you know,

913
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: whether it be the divorce suit or like other things

914
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: continuing to go, like continuing to get Amy to leave him,

915
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: would you continue down that path for the ultimate petty

916
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: revenge or do you just cut your losses move on

917
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 1: with your life.

918
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: Honestly, I would try to just cut my losses and

919
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: move on with my life. Yeah, because if you like

920
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: go down the petty petty life, like you've got a

921
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: kid involved, and then the kid could like it would

922
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: have to live with that, yeah, you know, being like

923
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 3: something that was very bitter from the past.

924
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean it would be a little bit of petty revenge,

925
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: like something small. Yeah, but if you're like going after

926
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: it like that, probably won't. It would just bring up

927
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: bad things later in the future. Yeah, well might as well. Yeah,

928
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent the same way. It's like it

929
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: is so not worth it. And honestly, you know, we

930
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: were talking a little bit earlier about like the divorce case,

931
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: like if you got seventy five percent was actually a

932
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: good deal. You know what's probably a good deal for

933
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: op getting this stuff out of her hair and just

934
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: like moving the freak on with her life.

935
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and being able to enjoy it. That's going to

936
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: take like at least a year and a half, two years.

937
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: I mean, you always be in the back of her head,

938
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: but like, yeah, it needs to be not recent and

939
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 3: that takes time.

940
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: Something like this twelve year relationship, and like there's probably

941
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: stuff maybe that Opie chose to admit omit that like

942
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: always got to be red flags. I'm sorry, Like, yeah,

943
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: something we get roastedting glasses. But my last question for you,

944
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: I think this one will be a little bit of

945
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: a of a of a hardball. Everyone answer in the

946
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: comments what you think below. Do you think that op

947
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: is the a hole for not doing everything she can

948
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: not for petty reasons to get Amy out of the

949
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: relationship with the husband.

950
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a really good point, because like one, Amy

951
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: is pretty young, yeah, and like it first relationship, first relationship,

952
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: it does not seem like a place Amy needs to be.

953
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: I feel like, honestly, she did everything that she could, Like,

954
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: she sent her all the receipts, all the documentations, Like

955
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: what else more could she?

956
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: Like?

957
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: What else more could she do? Honestly, I feel like

958
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: exactly she did it all. It's it's I mean, yeah,

959
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: do you think she could have done more?

960
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: No? No, I mean like maybe if it was the

961
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 2: first time.

962
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: It was like she just showed her LinkedIn and like

963
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: something like pictures or whatever. So it's like, Okay, that

964
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: wasn't that crazy, Maybe you could go.

965
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: A little bit more. But then she went, I mean.

966
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 1: All the drug tests, the text showing that he didn't

967
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: have the vasectomy, all of the degrees, the awards, everything,

968
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: like she really, like you said, she basically laid out

969
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: all the receipts that one would reasonably meet.

970
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey guess what, John, what I got A little

971
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 3: got a little present for you?

972
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: Really? Yeah? Okay.

973
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 3: Someone from our okop community submitted a Reddit story.

974
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: Okay and don't want you to read it.

975
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: Oh I'm excited for this surprise, great transition.

976
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: Thank you