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Speaker 1: before we dive into Thanksgiving week. We appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: New York City right now, where we'll dive into this

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Speaker 1: you a little bit of a legal breakdown of where

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Speaker 1: that is and how it's going. Also, again, great news

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Speaker 1: and they just talked about it last week. A lot

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Speaker 1: getting into your car, lots of good news already on

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Speaker 1: the program. Now. We wanted to cover this story because

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Speaker 1: I feel like it has largely gotten ignored in the

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Speaker 1: national media because this case is taking place during the

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Speaker 1: election season. But we wanted to bring in Kirsten Fleming.

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Speaker 1: She's a New York Post features columnist and she's been

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Speaker 1: covering the Daniel Penny trial in New York City to refresh.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Penny was a former marine who was arrested for

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Speaker 1: putting a choke hold on someone who was threatening people,

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Speaker 1: he says, on the New York City subway. He's being

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Speaker 1: charged with felony charges for that. We'll get the details

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Speaker 1: of how that's going. We bring in now Kirsten, who

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Speaker 1: has been in that courtroom. Kirsten Fleming from the New

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Speaker 1: York Post. What should we know about the case? Kirsten,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for giving us the time here on this Friday

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Speaker 1: for people who haven't been able to follow it very much.

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Speaker 1: What's going on so far?

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Speaker 2: Well in the courtroom, I mean, it's been interesting because

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Speaker 2: the prosecution's witnesses are basically people who were on the subway,

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Speaker 2: you know, that day, and a lot of them have

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Speaker 2: been so favorable for the defense. A lot of them

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Speaker 2: this is not like, you know, I came in town

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Speaker 2: strongest witness they've had is the emmy who was said

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Speaker 2: it was definitively a choke hold that Neely died from.

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Speaker 2: And yesterday and it's still going on in court now,

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Speaker 2: the defense put forward an expert who said that he

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Speaker 2: didn't die from a choke hold, that he died from

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Speaker 2: combined effects of or combined effects of schizophrenia, synthetic marijuana use,

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Speaker 2: the struggle, and a stickling event. So it's you know,

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Speaker 2: who knows what's going to happen, but this is what's

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Speaker 3: Hey, Christan, appreciate you being with us, and I'm glad

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Speaker 3: that someone's down there to cover what's really going on.

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Speaker 3: I've wondered how is it in the court, Like there's

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Speaker 3: some stuff on social media I've seen about how there's

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Speaker 3: this is something that activists are very involved in now

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Speaker 3: and the people who are watching this it's very It

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Speaker 3: and and what are you sensing from the proceedings here

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: I think that things have been going pretty well for Penny,

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Speaker 2: which is, you know, very good news obviously, but there

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Speaker 2: know you can't have that. Did jury deserve to have

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Speaker 2: hear all of these outbursts. And then even that day,

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Speaker 1: Day, Kirsten. One of the things that's important about being

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Speaker 2: So far, they've been pretty emotionless. I would say. There's

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Speaker 2: there's been a few moments that have elicited some giggles,

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Speaker 2: So I'm not getting anything from them. The only thing

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Speaker 2: it's almost like watching game tape. It's gruesome, right, We're

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Speaker 3: I Right, we're speaking to Christian Fleming from the New

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Speaker 3: York Post, who's been doing great reporting on the Daniel

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Speaker 3: Penny trial day in and day out in the courtroom

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Speaker 3: you're following this obviously much more closely that there that pan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, the emmy explained it that he

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Speaker 3: excessive force more than anything else? Is that it seems

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Speaker 3: to me like, based again you're there, but based on

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Speaker 3: to say, Look, that he stepped in isn't the problem.

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Speaker 1: It's that he held him too long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the actual words or he went too far, and

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Speaker 2: it's really, as much as we have this record of

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Speaker 2: the crux of it is that they're not saying that

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Speaker 1: Kirstin, I asked you about the jury and how you

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Speaker 1: think they're reacting. I can't even imagine being Daniel Penny

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Speaker 2: It is. And in fact, I keep trying to see

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Speaker 2: just like he's so stoic, he gives you really nothing.

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Speaker 2: And that's why, you know, we have the video of

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Speaker 2: making the rounds on social media right now, and everyone's going,

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm in people, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, And I'm sorry to cut you off, but let

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Speaker 1: and sit and they start quizzing you, you're right. That

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Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a pushback against I think in general,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in play, Travis and bought sex and show

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Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us we roll

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Speaker 1: into Thanksgiving week. Congratulations again to Buck Sexton and Carrie

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Speaker 3: So that is Jesse's immediate reaction. I will say, thank

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Speaker 3: those under that pretext, I think is particularly egregious. Clay

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Speaker 3: and one of the things that actually felt the best

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Speaker 3: about the Trump win. And this is enduring and this

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Speaker 3: will be true no matter what is that the first

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Speaker 3: effort to determine a presidential election through Blatant's continuous law

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Speaker 3: fair failed and that's very important for the republic. That

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Speaker 3: has real lasting meaning.

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Speaker 1: I do want to play this cut for you and

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Speaker 1: then we'll have some fun to close out the final segment.

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Speaker 1: Before we headed to Thanksgiving week, we have got joy

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Speaker 1: Read telling everybody that if you have family members that

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Speaker 1: voted for Trump, you need to stay away from them.

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Speaker 1: This is really what's going on on MSNBC. I think

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Speaker 1: you need to hear it. Here's joy Read Broken Brain

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Speaker 1: discussing Thanksgiving in the wake of the election.

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Speaker 6: People are rightfully alarmed. They have a reason to be alarmed,

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Speaker 6: and if you would vote for that, people may not

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Speaker 6: feel so confident that they're safe with you. This is

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Speaker 6: not crazy. This is legitimate feelings, a fear of you,

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Speaker 6: and a feeling that you might not be someone that

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Speaker 6: could trust if this thing goes way south, autocracy go

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Speaker 6: south real fast, and things get ugly and people get

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Speaker 6: asked to do things and turn people in and point

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Speaker 6: people out and turn on them. And if you're voting affirmatively,

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Speaker 6: gleefully for this, people might I don't know, may not

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Speaker 6: feel so confident in you anymore. That's real and you

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Speaker 6: kind of have to live with it. So if you

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Speaker 6: think that you can vote for what people see as

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Speaker 6: their destruction and then demand that they still are cool

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Speaker 6: with you and KEI key with you and have Thanksgiving

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Speaker 6: with you, like I think you're kind of missing the

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Speaker 6: point of what people are said about. They're afraidom and

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Speaker 6: autocracy and fascism are things that are legitimate to be

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Speaker 6: afraid of, So you may want to step back.

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Speaker 1: We don't have to live in her delusion.

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Speaker 3: You don't have any mandate to live in this fantasy

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Speaker 3: world that she's portraying of an autocracy that is going

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Speaker 3: to do horrible things to people, you know, and for

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Speaker 3: anybody who's going to say all this stuff about the

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Speaker 3: illegal immigration issue coming up, why doesn't Congress change the

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Speaker 3: law so they're not illegal?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Blame the people on both sides of the guile.

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Speaker 3: If you're an open border zellot for making laws that

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Speaker 3: make them illegal.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is just nuts. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: Joy Reid really believes what she is saying? Yecause I

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Speaker 1: think she's Exactually she's nuts. He's a moron basically, because

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Speaker 1: it was clear, like whatever you think about Joe Scarborough

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Speaker 1: and Mika as soon as they went to go meet

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Speaker 1: actions actors.

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Speaker 3: If let me tell you something right now, okay, and

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Speaker 3: I wish there's a way we could try this. If

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Speaker 3: Fox News offered Joe Scarborough a nice fat contract to

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Speaker 3: be the number one Trump supporter in the media, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean to make you and me look like radical leftists.

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Speaker 1: I mean you just sit there just shining Trump's throne.

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Speaker 3: He would take it. He would take it, no doubt

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Speaker 3: about it. He'd be like, Wow, I've learned my lesson.

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Speaker 3: Now it's time for me to bring my swoop of

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Speaker 3: hair and Miko over to Fox News. He'd be all

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Speaker 3: about it wouldn't miss a beat. I think you're right,

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Speaker 3: And and I'm not sure if that's better or worse,

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Speaker 3: because that's a fair question.

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Speaker 1: That's a really good question, right because joy Reid appears

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Speaker 1: to be a total moron whose brain is broken. But

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Speaker 1: I think I'm with you that I believe she believes

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Speaker 1: what she's saying. She's convinced herself of it.

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Speaker 3: Look, she's she's you know, she is you know, she

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Speaker 3: speaks well, she she prevents well on TV. I mean,

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Speaker 3: she obviously has a skill set, and you know, so

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Speaker 3: when we say I think it's more a belief thing,

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Speaker 3: it's almost like like anti trump Ism.

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Speaker 1: She's her true lichiever. She's a true believer in this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I don't think she's like especially brilliant

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Speaker 3: or anything. I don't think she's picularly right, but I

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Speaker 3: mean she's not an idiot, like she could know the

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Speaker 3: truth here if she wanted to, or I wanted to

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Speaker 3: as even the right thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's almost like a degree of.

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Speaker 3: Brainwashing or self brainwashing or self radicalization really is what

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Speaker 3: you could call it, because she's convinced herself and many

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Speaker 3: other leftists are like this too. Many other MSNBC hosts,

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Speaker 3: we can parse it, though to your point, Morning Joe

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Speaker 3: is not one of them.

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Speaker 1: He's not a true believers for a meeting with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: If you truly believed he was Hitler and he was

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Speaker 1: going to destroy American democracy, you wouldn't You just wouldn't

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Speaker 1: do it, Right, Like, if I thought that Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: was Hitler, I wouldn't be like, hey, can we have

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Speaker 1: breakfast together? I wouldn't show up for brunch. So I

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Speaker 1: think you can eliminate mourning Joe and Mika and did

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Speaker 1: you see Buck. Their audience is furious with them. Their

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Speaker 1: ratings have now hit a four year low since they

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Speaker 1: had that meeting.

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Speaker 3: Can I just say, I actually want to give a

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Speaker 3: little round of like not applause, maybe golf clap to

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Speaker 3: the MSNBC audience. You're not absolute marks, you know, you're

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Speaker 3: not absolute buffoons who enjoy being conned because the hosts

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Speaker 3: that you had were conning you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm happy to see that at least.

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Speaker 3: There's some consequence for the most latent kind of unprofessional dishonesty.

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Speaker 3: It's not even just it's not I disagree with them, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's lots of people I disagree with, but

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Speaker 3: they stick to what they say.

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Speaker 1: And it's that there. They were really.

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Speaker 3: Condescending to the audience and they're the most egregious example

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Speaker 3: of it. And some people, even though they can't see

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Speaker 3: the truth about Trump, at least recognize. Oh, so we

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Speaker 3: were being scammed by these hosts because they were.

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Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls to finish out the week,

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Speaker 1: headed into again Thanksgiving week, we come back eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and two two two eight a two. But I've got

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Speaker 1: to pick. Did you give out a pick yesterday?

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Speaker 3: I did say, always bet on mister Pickles. And then

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Speaker 3: things got a little wild.

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Speaker 1: Pickles got into a fight George Pickens, in case you're wondering,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game, great game in the snow,

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Speaker 1: but it did not go well for Pickles. Pickles got

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Speaker 1: into it. Let's see what his stats were. I'm pulling

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Speaker 1: those up right now because I do want to see

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Speaker 1: if he did have a game or not. And uh,

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Speaker 1: Pickens had four catches for forty eight yards. Not a

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Speaker 1: bad game, not a great game. It's an OK game.

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Speaker 1: And then he got in a fight. I've got winners

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Speaker 1: for you right now. Price picks dot Com my code Clay,

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Speaker 1: you get fifty dollars when you play five. Now, first

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Speaker 1: of all, they're giving us a free square. Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 1: on the Miami Dolphins Bucks Town right now, if he

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Speaker 1: gets more than a half receiving yard, you win that one.

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Speaker 1: That is impossible to lose. So that is a check

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Speaker 1: mark in our direction. Okay, everybody gets a free square basically,

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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go with Jamiir Gibbs, running back Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 1: formerly of the Alabama Crimson Tide as well as the

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Speaker 1: George Tech Yellow Jackets more than seventy and a half

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Speaker 1: rushing yards. I think he's gonna have a good game.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I think the Detroit Lions best team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL right now. Drake may quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots, less than two hundred and twenty one

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Speaker 1: and a half and Baker Mayfield two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: five point five passing yards for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: More put it simple, more for Baker Mayfield, more for

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Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs, more for Tyreek Hill on the free square,

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Speaker 1: less passing yards for Drake May. If we hit on that,

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Speaker 1: it pays off at ten to one. You get fifty

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Speaker 1: code Clay Buck. You could play it in California, where

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Speaker 1: I just was. You can play it in Florida where

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Speaker 1: Buck is, Tennessee where I live, Georgia, Texas, wherever you

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Speaker 1: are thirty plus states. Pricepicks dot com. My name Clay.

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Speaker 1: You get fifty dollars just for playing prizepicks dot com.

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Speaker 1: My name Clay.

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Speaker 5: Looking forward to the holidays, but dreading on Tethel's political pecking.

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Speaker 5: You need Turkey Talk A limited edition episode in the

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Speaker 5: Play and Buck podcast feed, now found on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 5: app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Wow, we're closing up shop here on Clay and Buck

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Speaker 3: before we send you off for the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Want to remind you please.

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Speaker 3: Subscribe the Clay and Buck podcast Network. Great listening. We

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Speaker 3: got Tutor Diction, we got Carol Markwitz. Carol's numbers are skyrocketing.

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Speaker 3: Sean Parnell's numbers blowing up every month. Sean Parnell is

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Speaker 3: a great dude. Brought us so much truth about the

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Speaker 3: Pennsylvania side of this election.

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Speaker 1: Nailed it all.

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Speaker 3: He might even have some other exciting shows for you

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Speaker 3: in the new year, so please subscribe. The iHeart app

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Speaker 3: a great place to go. We have Caleb on the

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Speaker 3: line in North Carolina. Caleb is twelve and apparently has

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Speaker 3: been listening to me Clay since he was a baby.

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Speaker 1: Hey Caleb, Hey, yeah, I have.

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Speaker 4: So Basically my parents listen to your show on the

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Speaker 4: Blaze and they said there were like twenty people listening

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Speaker 4: and there are two of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably there. That's what we call it og Caleb. So,

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Speaker 1: so you have been listening to Bach for your entire life?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I have pretty much cool and you like.

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Speaker 3: The new show, right, Clay and Buck. You're having fun

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Speaker 3: listening to this one. That's so great.

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Speaker 4: Uh huh. So the reason I'm calling is I wanted

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Speaker 4: to give you some advice as you were taking calls earlier.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 4: Well, my advice is to always have a talk radio

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Speaker 4: on and have them listening to podcasts and shows like yours.

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Speaker 4: They've helped me.

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Speaker 3: Well, you are a young patriot, sir, and we appreciate

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Speaker 3: you calling it. Thank you so much for listening, and

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Speaker 3: uh and I hope you'll listen for many, many more

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Speaker 3: years to come. It's a great honor that I've been

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Speaker 3: a voice in your home with your parents for over

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Speaker 3: over a decade.

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Speaker 1: Now, thank you so much for calling in. Yes, Clay, Now,

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, there are a ton of

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Speaker 1: people listening to us right now that are like Caleb,

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Speaker 1: except they started with Russell Imball. So there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of grown ups that are out they're listening to

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Speaker 1: us right now, and some young people as well that

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Speaker 1: have had that experience where they's, yeah, twelve year old

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Speaker 1: kid by the way, listening to you since it started

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Speaker 1: getting to be an old.

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Speaker 3: Man's kid's vocabulary is going to be fantastic. He's not

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Speaker 3: going to deal with any guff when people are making

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Speaker 3: too much noise in public. He's going to make sure

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Speaker 3: that people have fine manners around him.

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Speaker 1: I'm very proud of that. It's fantastic. Let's get Rodney

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Speaker 1: in Alabama. What have you got for is Rodney?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, let me tell you a great show as usual.

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Speaker 7: I really appreciate you, guys, and Buck. I'm happy for you,

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Speaker 7: I'm excited for you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Let me give you a little bit of advice. I

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Speaker 7: was forty when I had my first and forty four

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Speaker 7: when I had a sack just get ready for mey

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Speaker 7: meaning many years of people asking you if you're the granddad.

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Speaker 1: Buck looks young in the face. We'll see whether fatherhood

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Speaker 1: ages him in a hardbeat. We were out to dinner

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Speaker 1: with an advertiser the other day and he said, he

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Speaker 1: I think I told you this. He leaned over to

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Speaker 1: me and he said, how old is Buck? But as

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Speaker 1: he could be any age between like twenty six and

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Speaker 1: fifty house Like, yeah, he had no earthly idea how

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Speaker 1: old you are, because he's like, some old guys look

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Speaker 1: really young, but he's like he could just be a

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Speaker 1: really young guy.

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Speaker 3: So that that's funny. We have some great talkbacks here too.

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Speaker 3: Let's see let's do c C from Orlando, Florida. This

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Speaker 3: is Tina fucking Carrie.

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Speaker 8: Congratulations on the baby. The only advice that I would

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Speaker 8: give you is, don't change everything about the way you

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Speaker 8: do things around the house. If the baby is sleeping

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Speaker 8: and you need to be on the air and you

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Speaker 8: get a little loud, this happens. Babies need to learn

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Speaker 8: to sleep through noises. They need to learn to sleep

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Speaker 8: through vacuums, dishwashers, running water. Just keep doing what you've

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Speaker 8: always been doing and it'll all be great.

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Speaker 1: So this is great advice. I tell you.

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Speaker 3: I know that babies are different than dogs. But our

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Speaker 3: puppy Ginger, who's adorable Clay, we've trained her that she

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Speaker 3: will let us know when she wants to go out.

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Speaker 3: She'll go to the door. She'll even hit a little

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Speaker 3: bell when she wants to go potty. But now, because

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Speaker 3: she's naughty, when she wants to play fetch and we're

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Speaker 3: ignoring her, she goes over and pretends that she has

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Speaker 3: to go potty and then runs over with a ball

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Speaker 3: when we get up to let her out the door

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Speaker 3: to the back.

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Speaker 1: Right. So your kids and your puppies can train you

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Speaker 1: as much as you train them, there's no doubt at all.

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Speaker 1: By the way, really quickly, one listener, twenty DD, let's

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Speaker 9: Hey, Buck, The best advice I could give you is

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Speaker 9: a dad would be bite the bullet and buy a

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Speaker 9: minivan because a sliding door is so easy to get

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Speaker 9: your kid.

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Speaker 1: In and the hout you go. Buck, so much for

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Speaker 1: being cool. Minivan advice. Everybody, have a fabulous Thanksgiving every