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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here, Thank you for

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Speaker 1: who knows what type of like cocktail bar, you know,

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00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: like whatever that bar was like in the nineteen forties.

426
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm assuming maybe there was still like segregated or I

427
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: don't know, like the nineteen thirties, but like what if

428
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: she saw these like three like women of color in

429
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: the mirror and her friends were probably like, oh, Barbara,

430
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: you're just drunk, like come back, you know, like and

431
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: that's where the hands like coming back. You know. It's

432
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: almost like this weird like timeline, yes, Like what if

433
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: it was actually happening in the same time that we

434
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: were there, Like what if it was all like what

435
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: what if it was like a timeline that like overlaps

436
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: each other and like, I don't know, like that to me,

437
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: it kind of like takes the spookiness away from like

438
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: what's a ghost and it's someone dead. But I'm like,

439
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: what if it's not a ghost, Like what if we're

440
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: just living in like a coexisting and like multiple timelines

441
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: right now? Yes, and multiple We're all in the same space,

442
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: but in different dimensions, different time. You know, one of

443
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: the factors is just different. I think about that too,

444
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: because I had a really weird experience when I got

445
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: woken up by an apparition at the end of the bed.

446
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: And I always like love staying at haunted places. I

447
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: love scaring the ship out of myself. I think it's fun.

448
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: And then this happened, and I remember thinking specific quickly like, oh,

449
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 1: this is making me sad for this girl. She seems

450
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: really lost, and she seems really sad. And I wasn't

451
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: scared at all. It was her energy was just really different.

452
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: She was dressed in like high neck like very old school,

453
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: like eighteen hundreds maybe dressed. But I had the same

454
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: Where were you I was in I was in Texas

455
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: at this place called Miss Molly's. I think it's a

456
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: haunted brothel. It's haunted. See. I like seek these places out,

457
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: and then when I scare the ship out of myself,

458
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh God, but I chase these adventures

459
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: with the supernatural and unexplainable because it makes me feel

460
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: so alive and small in a great way. Like our

461
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: own show. Now, let's have our own paranormal. Let's go.

462
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: I would love to. I want to go to all.

463
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: I want to go to see that fucking aliens. Yes,

464
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: when outside opens, let's have a show. We're gonna be

465
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: like this is where new We're gonna go, like the

466
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: Ghost Adventure, Let's go. I want to see the ghosts.

467
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: I want to see the aliens. I want to see

468
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: the other dimensions. I want to like, I just want

469
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: to immerse myself in every different kind of thought. Someone

470
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: once called me a nature punk, which was the closest

471
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: thing that I was like, Oh, yeah, I am that,

472
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: Like that's I defined myself now as a nature punk. Yeah,

473
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: I think that's like, that's what I feel like. But

474
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm also I know I'm a witch, but I also

475
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: don't necessarily exactly know what that means. I have an alter,

476
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: don't I know? I know I'm I am. I am

477
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: a witch. You're right, I'm going to stay it with pride.

478
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: I am a witch. I just don't know exactly if

479
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: there's rituals for instance, Like there's different rituals for different

480
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: every different religion, So what's what's like a ritual? Is

481
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: there a very important ritual to practicing witchcraft that is

482
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: like an initiative? I mean, I feel like everybody's practice

483
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: is so different, do you know what I mean? It's

484
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: like I can't sit here and be like, Okay, here's

485
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: the black and white eight is the guide of what

486
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: is you're gonna this is how you're going to be

487
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: a witch. Because there are some people who are like

488
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 1: shut the hell up, like that's not what I do,

489
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like that's not how

490
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: I define my practice. So I think it's so deeply personal.

491
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: And if you're not you know, initiated into a specific tradition,

492
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: because every tradition, in each each practice is going to

493
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: be so different, do you know what I mean? Because

494
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: you have like wickens, and you have like chaos magicians,

495
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: and you have you know what I mean, it's like

496
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: the solitary witch and Dianic, which is it's like you

497
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: have all of these like different practices. So it's like

498
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: there's no one size fits all, Like I can't tell

499
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: you like, hey, kesha, um, you need to do this

500
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: naked full moon rich ritual. What's like, maybe that's something

501
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: that I like doing, maybe I think all which is

502
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: actually like actually, I'm like, I feel like we all

503
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: really love being naked under a full moon. But you know,

504
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: just generally speaking, there really isn't I wouldn't feel comfortable

505
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: saying like, hey, you know, to be a witch, you

506
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: need to do this. I think to be a witch

507
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: you need to create your own meaningful ritual. I think

508
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: you need to be true to yourself. I think you

509
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: should be respectful of nature, be respectful of the cycles

510
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: of nature. Um, and you know what I mean. And and

511
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: and even still it's like that's not even a guideline,

512
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because you have satanic witches,

513
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: you have all there's just there's a whole realm of

514
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: witches and witchcraft. And so they're again like I said,

515
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: there's no one size fits all, there's no right, there's

516
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: no wrong. And I think that that is the beauty

517
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: of being a witch, that archetype, that's like the wild

518
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: that energy, that wildness. Or it's like you're not gonna

519
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: tell me ship like I'm gonna do what the funk

520
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: I want to do and that's I'm not. It's like,

521
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: that's the difference, you know, Like the witch is like

522
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: it's not a queen, it's not a princess, it's not

523
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, any of these things. It's like,

524
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: if I want to be ugly, if I want to

525
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: be dark and scary, and you know, if I want

526
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: to be light and loving and etherory all these things,

527
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: It's like, that doesn't make me any less of a witch,

528
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: because that's just that's the beauty. That's the power of

529
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: the witch, is truly and just fiercely and unapologetically embracing

530
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: your nature and what you are, and that is the witch.

531
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: I love that I am a witch. I'm a motherfucking witch.

532
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: Motherfucking witches for real. Though I think I hesitate because

533
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, I believe in like so

534
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: many different things, and sometimes I want to be really

535
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: like a total light worker, and sometimes I want to

536
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: be kind of like a naked moon gremlin at the

537
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: beach and just like be like a total psychic. But

538
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: I think you can be all of those things, and

539
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm over the past year, I've been

540
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: really trying to focus on harnessing all of the natures

541
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: of who I am, and instead of trying to be

542
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: ashamed of them, be proud of them. And if they

543
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: make me happy and they're coming from a place that

544
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: is making some sort of positive change with it myself

545
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: for it to other people, it's been fucking owning it.

546
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: And that's like really difficult sometimes in a society that's

547
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: not necessarily the kindest two people. And I can't even

548
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: imagine like the past year. Yeah, I think that's something.

549
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: You know, I'm really proud of myself. I'm very grateful

550
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: to be in a position where I was to create

551
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: the space, this platform if it's to help anyone, if

552
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: anybody gets anything out of what I do, and I

553
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: think a lot of that for me, um interestingly enough,

554
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: was like really stepping to the forefront. And you know,

555
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: I got a lot of shipped from you know, other

556
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: other witches and like white witches are blackly it's like

557
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: not even just to put like a race on it,

558
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: but it's like a lot of old school witches who

559
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: are like, well, I don't like the commercialization of all

560
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, you can talk shit about like

561
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: younger people like millennials, you know, going to urban outfitters

562
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: and buying their first ptero at deck. But it's like

563
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: fuck you, Like just because someone you know, like is

564
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: going with these like silly places, They're going to eventually

565
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 1: have a genuine knowledge and they want to learn. So

566
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: everyone starts somewhere, and not to really not to condone

567
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: like buying things from like you know, appropriative places, because

568
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't condone that. Definitely it's support small business to

569
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: buy a tarot decks, but um, but I'm just saying,

570
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: like young like young kids, you know, like teenagers and

571
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: like you know, like just younger kids, like they want

572
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: to learn about it. And I'm like, not everyone starts

573
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 1: off as being this like you know, all knowledge, you know,

574
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: all wisdom bearing like witch and powerful goddess healer. It's

575
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: like you all, there's a curiosity, you know, And I

576
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: think that that's the beauty with so many people who

577
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: are stepping away from you know, organized religion and like

578
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: these outdated like patriarchal beliefs, they have to start somewhere.

579
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: So if if it's with Instagram or you know, seeing

580
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: a post that inspires them, or seeing a person or

581
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: learning from someone who looks like them, and for me,

582
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: it was like I was so afraid, Like when I

583
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: first started doing hood, which I never posted pictures, and

584
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: it was always I was known for my mail art

585
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: in my hands because I would hold like crystals, and

586
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: I didn't want my looks to take away from my message,

587
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: which is also something like a very patriarchal thing where

588
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh well, if I look this way, then

589
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: people won't take me seriously. Um. But then I was like, no,

590
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: funk that, Like, I absolute right. It's like I'm a

591
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: black woman, I'm a Mexican woman, I have like I'm

592
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: a you know, all of these things, Like within my culture,

593
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: it's like representation matters, and to be in a space

594
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: where you know this, oh well, she's, you know, culturally

595
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: the same. I grew up this way and I love

596
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: art and I love beauty and all that stuff, it's like,

597
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: you know, you find someone who is like relatable, and

598
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: I think that that's important and that really helps me

599
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: to keep going. Being unique and unfamiliar is what makes

600
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: people so intriguing and interesting, and that's what I love

601
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: the most about getting to talk to people, is what

602
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: makes them them, Like what makes you you where did

603
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: you come from? Where did you, like, how did you

604
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: learn these things like your ancestors, and also taking into

605
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: account the younger generation where everyone is on Instagram and TikTok,

606
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: and why shouldn't we be exploring our spirituality in those arenas.

607
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: That's where everybody is right now. And I think the

608
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: younger you are getting to know yourself and being aware

609
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: of spirituality. I think that's all a really positive way

610
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: to use social media. I agree, and I think that

611
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: we're innately you know, spiritual being. So it's like no

612
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: matter how you get there, the point is is like

613
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: you're just gonna get there, and you're going to connect

614
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: with people that you vibe with. You're going to connect

615
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: with people who are speaking to you and that are

616
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: going to help you to like grow. So not everyone's

617
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: going to start off knowing everything. And I just feel like,

618
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, elders need to be more open, and I

619
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: think a lot of them are like um with I

620
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: just feel like if you're going and you're teaching in

621
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: a manner that's respectful of you know, traditions, and like

622
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: I said, there are some magical practices that have very

623
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: strict guidelines that you absolutely need to be initiated into.

624
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: There are things that you can't just google and you know,

625
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: insert yourself into. And there are things that you need

626
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,479
Speaker 1: to be culturally sensitive to where you cannot just put

627
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: yourself into a practice or like oh, I'm gonna, you know,

628
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: worship o'shoon and I'm gonna It's like no, sweetheart, Like

629
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: these are real, like religions that you actually have to

630
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: go through, like ceremony and like learning the information, Like

631
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: you need to be guided, Like this is not something

632
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: that's for play, and it's just not for you know,

633
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: for fun. This is like real life, yeah, and it's

634
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: for it's My spirituality is something that's like ever changing

635
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: and growing, and it's something I want to protect more

636
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: than anything in the world because it's solely and you know,

637
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: a lot of times in life there's so many things

638
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: people can take and take from you or but like

639
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: your spirituality, your connection to source with the universe, like

640
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: that's yours and nobody can work with that. And to

641
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: take it slow and do it correctly. There's something I'm

642
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: trying to do and also just explore. I want to

643
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: explore and know about everyone else and what they believe in,

644
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: because I really do think we're all we are all connected,

645
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: and the more we can see that instead of dividing

646
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: with the religions where it's just like so so divisive

647
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: versus realizing we're all trying to find our own inner

648
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: golden light or higher consciousness and that's all part of

649
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: the same thing. I love this pices, this very Pisces

650
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: dreamy energy or like we're all into connected as we are.

651
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. But you're Taurus, right, your Taurus. I am

652
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: a taurust and Taurus done in mood, and I have

653
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: a scorpio rising Scorpio rising too. I think that's where

654
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: the like don't work with me a little part of it.

655
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: But it's also I feel like our witchiness too. It is,

656
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: and I think it's important as a woman too to

657
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: have a little bit because I have the Pisces on Pisces,

658
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: and then I'm the Year of the Rabbit, so I'm

659
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: all like good vibes and fuzzy, and then I have

660
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: a little scorpio just it's like my protection to be like,

661
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: but don't talk with me, but like, but so is

662
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: your beauty regimen. Like all of that is very important

663
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: to you. From what I was reading on your like

664
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: the website that you find it really important and I

665
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: do too, obviously, yes, I love Okay, so I don't

666
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: give a ship. Like people can be dismissive, especially like

667
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: in the space of like I don't think so anymore,

668
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: but like in the world of like, I don't know

669
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: what and I wouldn't even say like witchcraft, but I

670
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: do like in the spiritual world or community. Um, some

671
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: people like look down at it. But like, I don't

672
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: give a ship because I'm like beauty and taking care

673
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: of yourself and these are not just like vain things,

674
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: and so what if it is I feel like being

675
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: a witch, like you're a witch, Like you're not a saint,

676
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: like you're not you know, trying to be like holier

677
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: than now. It's like, of course witches have always been

678
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: like sexy and care about glamour and beauty, and I

679
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: think that, um, taking care of yourself however, you see fit,

680
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: even if it's not with makeup, if it's with your diet,

681
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: if it's with you know, doing a certain amount of exercise,

682
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: it's about really like taking care of your physical vessel

683
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: and caring for your body and caring for yourself or

684
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: even just lurging on like buying you know, getting your

685
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: hair done or your nails or a facial or a massage.

686
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: Like these are like that's your temple, that's your body,

687
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: Like that's something that's sacred. So why wouldn't I put

688
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: that into my practice of empowerment? Why wouldn't I want

689
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: to feel good about myself? And I really try to

690
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: um share that with other people as well, Like it's

691
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: not just something that's like a vain thing to do.

692
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: It's like it's empowering. It's it's how you ground yourself.

693
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: Even for your rituals, for your spells, if you take

694
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: like a nice shower or like a bad and you're

695
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: burning you know, your favorite candles or your incense and

696
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: you're saying like, you know, positive affirmations to yourself, or

697
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: even if it's you know, it can get dark and

698
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: not not darker, but like get deeper. It's like a

699
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: sex ritual, you know, like anything like just something that

700
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: like makes you feel good. It's like why the fun?

701
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Why don't you want to feel good? Like you can

702
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: do that on your own, and it's not like no

703
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: one should criticize that. I just feel like, uh, the

704
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: form of transformation its powerful. It is powerful, and it

705
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't be shameful to be both spiritually inclined and also

706
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: want to feel like the best version and most powerful

707
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: version of yourself, like absolutely as a woman, it's you know,

708
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: fortunately or unfortunately people look at you. And if I

709
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: can put on like a cat, I and all of

710
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: a sudden I feel more powerful. And why I couldn't

711
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: I do it. I don't ever leave the house without

712
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: a black cat. I I even wore red lips freeze today.

713
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the gorgeous well red lips are definitely

714
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: they're like historically. Don't know why. I don't know if

715
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: it's just red, the color red or what it is,

716
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: but a red lip is just always fiercely dangerous, and

717
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: so I love it. It's living in your power. Yes,

718
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: you're bad, bitch powered. I fucking love that. I don't

719
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: know that much about the black dahlia, but my god,

720
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: I was told that you're really into it. So I

721
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: was wondering if you could educate me on what I know.

722
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: It's like a Hollywood terrifying murder. There was always this

723
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: theory that like whoever murdered her was like very much

724
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: like inclined with like the medical profession, so like her

725
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: body was like fully drained of it of the blood.

726
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: Did they ever figure out who did it? No? Oh

727
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: my god, I need to really get on this because

728
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that much about it. And it's one

729
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: of those things I don't know if you do this,

730
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: but there's like I love a good this sounds really

731
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: fucked up. I I do kind of like I love

732
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: a good creepy story. I do. I just like that.

733
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: And I've been saving this one because I've heard it's

734
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: really insane, but I haven't like yet like dove into

735
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: the details of it. But I'm going to do that tonight.

736
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: That's like what I'm gonna do for fun. That's what

737
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: I do for fun. I know. No, that's a good one.

738
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: But like there is also another book, um, I think

739
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: it was. It's like an old book. I'm gonna I

740
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: might have two copies of it, and if I do,

741
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to send you on. It's called Psychic California

742
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: and it's out of print and it's like an old

743
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: book and it's like it talks about like the occult

744
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: in like just spooky history of the cult and everything

745
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: of like California and Los Angeles. I love ship like that.

746
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with cults in California. I don't know what

747
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: it is, but California is a great place to have

748
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: a really fucked up cult historically speaking. I mean yeah,

749
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, Keshia, let's start a cult? Are you kidding?

750
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: I just wrote a song called Let's go start a

751
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: cult in Texas because I've always wondered what that would

752
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: be like. But mine wouldn't like I wouldn't want anybody

753
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: to murder. Anybody would be a very loving, happy call. Okay,

754
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: we won't have a murdered cult. If we have a

755
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: call a total witch cult where it's like just like

756
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: nature or mother nature worship, female worship power and not

757
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: having to I feel like as a woman too, i

758
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: find myself downplaying my power and I'm like, I'm really

759
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: trying to unlearn that, Like I'm trying to unlearned downplaying

760
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: my power, and this is like part of it is

761
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: maybe a cult. But if you had a cult, what

762
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: would be what would the outfits be? I mean I

763
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: feel like, what would the outfits be? For me? It's

764
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: my outfits gonna be black, So I'm already I still

765
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: liked to black. Maybe everyone gets their own color. Oh,

766
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: that would be great. I would love to be like

767
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: a baby pink cult member. Oh it's such a pissies

768
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: know you're like, I'm going to have baby pink with

769
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: glitter and black. Scorpio was like, okay, but I love

770
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: emerald green Toosela is my wig inner Taurus earthy. I

771
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: love that. Oh my gosh, Like we're total opposites in

772
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: the color spectrum. I like all the baby comings, and

773
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: you can have like the dark greens in the forest.

774
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: And I know I love jeweled tones. I too. I

775
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: have so many crystals. I have a crystal I brought

776
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: back from I was in South Africa and I brought

777
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: back this crystal and then it busted into thirty different pieces.

778
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: But so if you send me that book, I'll send

779
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: you a piece of this crystal. I got trade, Yes,

780
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: which trade? And then our energy will be forever. We'll

781
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: have like a little together and then we can start

782
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: our right next to our cold and okay, we have

783
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: a whole long list. Now we have a which ghost

784
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: series and now we have to have a cold stone.

785
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: They can all be like in the same area. We

786
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: can figure out where exactly, but in California somewhere. Yes,

787
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: do you do you find yourself to be psychic? Do

788
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: you believe in like the supernatural and feeling psychic? I

789
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: guess and that we're like super natural and just kind

790
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: of like I just think it's natural. So I think

791
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: that everyone is like very intuitive when we're like connect

792
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: to our power. And it's kind of to go back

793
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: into what you were saying where you're like, oh, like

794
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: you know, I have to start un learning you know,

795
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: doubting myself and really stepping into like my power and

796
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: like my intuition. I think that so many women identifying people,

797
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: we do have this tendency and I think it's been

798
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: programmed within us from a very young age that you know,

799
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: our intuition is like paranoia or you're being too paranoid

800
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: or that's crazy, and you know what I mean. Like

801
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: so the dreamy and like the magical sides to ourselves

802
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: are suppressed and we're it's it's not something that's very developed.

803
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: And I think that as a society and just culturally, um,

804
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, people value like science over intuition. But I

805
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: don't think that there needs to be um one or

806
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: the other. I think that both can coexist together, and

807
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: I think that more people. Yes, I do feel that

808
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm psychic, and I'm definitely a psychically sensitive that goes

809
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: into a large part of my work and I'm I

810
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: always honor that and I would love to tell more

811
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: people to embrace that part of themselves and to trust

812
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: themselves more. And that's really it Isn't it funny how

813
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: it's such a how we all have it. But the

814
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: second you start talking about it, I feel like from

815
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: multiple sorry but they are multiple men in my past

816
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: have been like, oh, that's so crazy. Oh that's so

817
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: wo wo oh, that's like you're such a You're like

818
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: doing the thing, and I'm like, no, no, no, it's

819
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: a natural feeling I have. That's I connect with with

820
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: the earth as an animal. I feel that there's something

821
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: bad is going to happen. And this happened multiple times

822
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: to me and the next day, unfortunately, I've had multiple

823
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: people passed away after having this very specific feeling in

824
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: my gut, and before they passed away, I'm crazy. I'm

825
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: just being the weirdo whatever fill in the blank. I'm

826
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: being insane. And then the next day I'm like, I

827
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: told you something weird was going to happen. I felt

828
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: it in my gut, I felt it deep inside of me,

829
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: and then it happens. You know. That's and I think

830
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: that you know so many times, how many times have

831
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: every you know women and like I said, women identifying

832
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: people been dismissed as being crazy and that's insane or

833
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: that's stupid and that doesn't make rational sense and that's

834
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: not real. And I'm like, okay, but like trust your gut,

835
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: like trust your intuition um. And when people say like

836
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: gut feelings, a lot of people don't know this, but

837
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: when they say trust your gut, they're talking about your

838
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: solar plexus. And so your solar plexus is right where

839
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: your navel is. It's how we receive and you know,

840
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: project energy. So I think it's like that feeler. It's

841
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: just it is feeling other people's energetic um, like their aura,

842
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: their energy like in your space. So if you're getting

843
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: that gut feeling, it's in the pit of your stomach

844
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, I don't know, this doesn't feel good.

845
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: Trust that that's your that is your psychic power, that

846
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: is your intuition, that is like you really getting this

847
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: like warning and the signal. Then listen to that feeling.

848
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: Trust it, trust it. Oh my god, I really there's

849
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: so many circumstances. I mean, it's my first Tarot card

850
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: pack that like since I've kind of started understanding the

851
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: nificance of taro and I was wondering if there's a

852
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: specific thing you do with your deck or you just

853
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: like kind of meditate on it. So one thing that

854
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: I love, especially if i'm if I get a new

855
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: Tarot deck that I love, I'm okay, So let me

856
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: just like, let's just start here. So a lot of

857
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: people ask about like tarot and like what they're supposed

858
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: to do with their decks and like how they're supposed

859
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: to work with it when they first get it. I

860
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: am going to be that one who breaks away from

861
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: tradition and I'm gonna say, you don't need to be

862
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 1: gifted a Tarot deck, and a lot of it, there's

863
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: this misconception that like you're supposed to be gifted a

864
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: Tarot deck. I think that if you find a deck

865
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: because it is such a deeply personal tool, you like

866
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: the artwork for it, you know, you love the symbolism

867
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: by it for yourself. Why are you why are you

868
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: waiting for someone to give you the deck, like like

869
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: go buy it for yourself. But what I like to

870
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: do is I take my deck out. UM. I will

871
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: use like I don't know, it just depends, like I

872
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: try to use like a cleansing herb um, just to

873
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: cleanse the energy of it. I will sleep with it.

874
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll wrap them up in silk cloth. I keep

875
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: mine in cloth, or I have like little boxes, um,

876
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: like either wooden boxes or certain boxes that um, you know,

877
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: you can just like buy that are small enough to

878
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: keep your cards in. But my favorite deck that I

879
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: like working with right now, it's like wrapped up in

880
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: cloth and I put it in silk cloth. UM. I

881
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: put like a quartz crystal on it. You put it

882
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: under your pillow. If there's certain cards that are really

883
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,959
Speaker 1: jumping out to you in the deck, you can put

884
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: that on your altar, on your vanity table, on your dresser, UM,

885
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: and just like meditate on it and just look at

886
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: the image dree of it. If you don't really understand

887
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: what it is and why you like it. I would

888
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: sit with that first before reading you know, the instruction

889
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: manual for it, because I'm I'm totally with you, like

890
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: I'm like always of the mindset like I can do

891
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: it myself. I got this, I'm gonna go get my

892
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: deck whatever. And I was going to go out and

893
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: buy myself a deck. And then for my birthday a

894
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: week ago, a really really close friend of mine got

895
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: me a deck that just like I'm obsessed with and

896
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: I keep pulling the same card, like I kept like

897
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: trying to not pull the same card and shuffling, and

898
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: the same card kept jumping out at me. I love

899
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: when that happens. And I was like, oh, ship, I

900
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: think it's really just this card. I think it's really

901
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: this card. But I was wondering if you have a

902
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: card that speaks to you the most. I'm okay, So

903
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: I really love So it just depends on what deck.

904
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: But there's I have three of them, so one of

905
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: them is the death card. I love the death card

906
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: generally in all most decks from like old New. I

907
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: don't know if they told you this, but like I

908
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 1: have over two hundreds. Oh my god, no, you didn't

909
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: tell me that. So there's so many different I'm sure

910
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: there's so many different kinds of decks. I'm sure. Yeah. Um,

911
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: I mean I have some old decks from like, you know,

912
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: the early nineteenth century. I have some cool ones from

913
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: the sixties, from the seventies, I had a lot of

914
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: really cool like old, rare, out of print decks. UM.

915
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: I get a lot of decks sent to me just

916
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: from new artists, UM that have made their decks, and

917
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: I just have like a crazy collection of them. UM.

918
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: But my favorite cards the death card. I love the

919
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: Empress and I love m What do else? What else

920
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: I like seeing? I like seeing the Nine of Pentacles,

921
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: She's a good one, or like just that card in general.

922
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: I really love what is the What is the significance

923
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: of the Nine of Pentacles and the death card? So

924
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: the death card is a signifier of like rebirth and transformation.

925
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: It's like the phoenix rising from the ashes. Um in

926
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: the terror that card is really just you know, a

927
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: major transformation. So when some people see it, they get

928
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 1: like really spooked out in readings, UM, I do terror readings,

929
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: So like when that card comes up, UM, a lot

930
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: of people get freaked out. But it's not anything to

931
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: be scary, it's just change. It's major change on a

932
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: very deep level, soul level. UM. And so the Nine

933
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: of Pentacles for me, when I see that card come up,

934
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: it's really just about like um that financial independent and

935
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: like making money and like, you know like that it's

936
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: a very like tourist Earth the you know, like very

937
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 1: like uh, material oriented type of cards. So it makes

938
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: me feel abundant. It makes me feel like I'm on

939
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: the right path. Um. And then with the Empress, I

940
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: love her because she's like the mother, like the nurtures.

941
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: It's like a very venusian um energy, like the care provider,

942
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: like carrying and nurturing and like that divine feminine power

943
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: and energy. So like I really love that card too. Oh,

944
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: I forget. I love the hyph Priestess. I personally I've

945
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: only gotten I've only gotten my cards read like a

946
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: handful of times. So we have to do that at

947
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: some point on one of your like sixties decks. Yes,

948
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm actually like talking about this and like

949
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: I want to give you a reading. But yes, let's

950
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: we'll talk about this after. Yeah, when we're on our

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953
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Speaker 1: made my mom go there with me and she was like,

955
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956
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957
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961
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962
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964
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966
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Speaker 1: the Hoodwich. I am also writing a book. I offered

967
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968
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Speaker 1: doing right now. I'm going to definitely be sure to

969
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972
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Speaker 1: so much for joining me today. It's been such a

973
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974
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975
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984
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Speaker 1: so much for listening. Thank you so much for doing this.

985
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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Thank you. Donny Love