1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: The following here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for 3 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, October twenty ninth, two thousand and twenty, 8 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: season sixteen, episode number fifty four, and welcome to another 9 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: edition of The Break. We are live here at the 10 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: FunTown r V tailgate. We're in the Tostitos Championship Plaza 11 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: at Ford Center, and I got my crew with me. Man, 12 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: this is awesome because it's the first time since maybe 13 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, February March, since we've all four been 14 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: in the same room. You probably had a meeting back then, 15 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: so it mean yeah, like mid February. Yeah, I'm just 16 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: saying no. So the first time we've been together for 17 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: a show. We don't have to worry about Dave's phone 18 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: doing glitchy type things right now. We can actually have 19 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: a good conversation. There's nothing that's that's prohibiting these guys 20 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: from mixing it up a little bit. So I'm very 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: very excited to have you guys here, and thanks to 22 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: a funtwn RV for setting this all up for us. 23 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: A little bit cool, a little chilly, but we'll make 24 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: it through. Amber you Okay, I'm hanging in there. If 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: you hear any teeth chattering, it's amber. So you know, 26 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: we'll make it through. It would be fall and bad weather. 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: And this is what we got right now. Okay, let's 28 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: do this is actually, this is a really fitting U 29 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: sums up where we are in the Cowboys season. That 30 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: episode fifty four, h yes is wow. Wow, I didn't 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: even get that. Oh my god, oh my god. All right, 32 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be I'm talking about episode fifty four. It 33 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: means it's gonna be a Ring of Honor type show. 34 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: You know, there's two fifty four is in the Ring 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: of Honor, Randy White, thanks, mister historian. That's good. Fifty 36 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: four you guys are referring to three? Will there be three? Now? 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: Darren Hambrick won't get in, so I don't know. Maybe 38 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: what do volunteer? All right, let's let's jump right in. 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: We need to talk a little bit about this roster. 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: There were a couple moves yesterday Darryl Worley and Don 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Terry Poe obviously Wave we talked about it on the 42 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: show yesterday that was likely going to happen. It did happen, 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: but the Cowboys did also or they are expected to 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: make another move at quarterback, bringing back an old familiar 45 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: name and Cooper Rush. Question is where does he fit 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: on the depth chart? Like they got a lot of 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: guys that kind of well, two guys that they've added 48 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: here in the last couple of weeks. Where does what 49 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: does the depth chart really look like for this team 50 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: at quarterback? Nick Well, I'm just hoping we can get 51 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: the term ginger snaps somewhere on the headline of this. 52 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: I mean, if we can get him and Andy Dalton, 53 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you have to got it. We'll 54 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: see how it goes Sunday. I mean like that they 55 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: don't have to decide the depth chart. I mean, if 56 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: if Nutch goes out there and plays well, I mean, 57 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, he could be the backup when Andy comes back. 58 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: But if not, I mean, this might be have nothing 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: to do with Andy Dalton or Denuccie. It might be 60 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: more about Garrett Gilbert and be like, all right, he 61 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: doesn't he's still having a hard time learning the plays. 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: This guy knows the plays. I mean, Cooper knows the plays. 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: He knows Kellen Moore. So I don't know where he's 64 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: gonna remember it's the practice squad next week, but you know, 65 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: he could be the third quarterback moving forward, maybe the second. 66 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I think. I mean in a 67 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: perfect world that I think the hope is that neither 68 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush nor Garrett Gilbert ever needs to play this. 69 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: I think, for one, you just got to cover yourself 70 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: in case Andy takes longer than expected coming back, and 71 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: or if something happens to Ben de Nucci. I mean, 72 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: he's he's going to be running for his life one 73 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: way or the other on Sunday. Like, hopefully he can 74 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: stay healthy on Sunday. Cooper Rush gives you insurance. He yeah, 75 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy said today, he was like, well, Cooper was 76 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: part of our offseason meetings. I don't think that's completely 77 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: true because Cooper Rush was cut on May fourth, right 78 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: after Dalton signed, like so they weren't really into the 79 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: meat of what they were doing. But he was here 80 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: last year in the year before that, he knows Kellen 81 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: Moore like, he's probably pretty familiar with the offense, so 82 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: you would think he can pick it up pretty quickly 83 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: if he needs to. But Andy Dalton was in meetings today, 84 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: he was in the team meeting yesterday, He's in the 85 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: position meetings today. So I would hope he's rounding toward 86 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: being able to play next week if he can't go Sunday. 87 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: So I would hope Cooper Rush doesn't need to do 88 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: anything on the field. But it's just insurance Kenny at 89 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: this point, I mean, with the COVID protocols, when will 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: he be able to actually be with the team and 91 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: Canny even be on the field this Sunday on the 92 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: sidelines or anything. He won't be here till next week. 93 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: He's got I think, Nick, you said it's six six tests, 94 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: six negative tests, just to get in the door. That's 95 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: the part that's a little curious to me, because by 96 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: the time he would actually be able to come into 97 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: the building, I would guess I would hope Andy Dalton 98 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: his back and so you're at like he's even farther 99 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: down the depth chart. Does that seem a little bit 100 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: strange to you guys that they would bring him in 101 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: at this point knowing that he really can't help him 102 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: this weekend when you would be without Dalton presumable. Well, 103 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: I here's the thing with the offensive line. You just 104 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen at the quarterback position. 105 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: And I'm sure we're gonna talk about Bendy Nucci in 106 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I feel bad. I feel bad 107 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: for the guy. He has talent and all that, but 108 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: he's so tiny, and I feel bad that if he 109 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: gets hit, it's not gonna feel good. And hopefully he 110 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: doesn't get hit, but we know that's bound to probably 111 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: happen with the kind of old line we have. But man, 112 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: you just don't know at this point what kind of 113 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: injuries starting from the old line, and then now it's 114 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: carrying on to the quarterback position as well. Also, I would, 115 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: I would. I would just say concussions are different. You 116 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: know it's not. There is no specific timeline. No two 117 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: concussions are the same. It's a very good sign that 118 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: Andy's in meetings, but you know, he might I don't 119 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: even know how that works. I've never had a concussion, 120 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: but he might not feel as good Monday as he 121 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: does right now. I don't know so and he had 122 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: hurt to cover your neither as he. I mean, he's 123 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: never had one, which is you know, that's good and bad. 124 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: I think it's good that you know, this's not like 125 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: it apparently keeps getting worse and worse the more that 126 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: you have. But he know, he's never had one, so 127 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't really know the symptoms and feelings, you know, 128 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: of what he should be, you know, having. But you know, 129 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: I just think it again, I think it comes back 130 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: to Gilbert. I think at the end of the day, 131 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: he's probably going to be the third Russia will be 132 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: the third quarterback or maybe second, depending on how Ben 133 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: plays in this game. Yeah, and let's not forget like 134 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: when he was laying on the field that that certainly 135 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: didn't look very good. It certainly looked like to me 136 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: he was really injured. And so you know, you just 137 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: never know the severity of this concussion. Obviously they don't 138 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: really that kind of information, but it certainly didn't look good. 139 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to cast aspersions because again, all signs 140 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: point toward Andy being fine in the long run. But 141 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: I always think about it's a completely different sport. But 142 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: Sidney Crosby once suffered a concussion that knocked him out 143 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: for like half a season, like he could. Yeah he 144 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: so hockey, right, yeah, yes, one of the best players 145 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: the last day. Yeah yeah, I got you. H So 146 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: you never know, and like I feel like people to 147 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, Zach Martin is coming back one week after 148 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: his most people are like, okay, a concussions one week 149 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: But that's not always true. So it's just something to remember. 150 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. I want to talk a 151 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: little bit about this Cowboys offense. Remember, in the second segment, 152 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: as we do every Thursday, we'll have a Buckey Brooks 153 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: calling and he's gonna talk to us about the Cowboys 154 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: offense versus the Philadelphia defense. But I had a few 155 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: questions for you guys, particularly about this Philadelphia. I'm sorry 156 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: about this Cowboys offense in the matchup. I want to 157 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: start with Ben Denucci. We heard Mike McCarthy talking this 158 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: morning about the fact that he's a guy that that 159 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: certainly can run. We've heard coming into the league, we heard, 160 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, stories of a guy he seems to be 161 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: a mobile type quarterback, a guy that kind of can 162 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: freelance as necessary and with this offensive line, I would 163 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: think freelancing is something he might have to do. That 164 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: all being said, do you think that he actually gives 165 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, not factoring in in I know it's gonna 166 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: be weird, but not factoring in his inexperience, do you 167 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: think he actually gives them a little bit of an 168 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: advantage knowing the offensive line isn't as good and he 169 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: has the ability to get off script and be able 170 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: to make things happen on the run and on the fly. No, 171 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I think if they were racing, like if 172 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: it was a scramble drill and you run in, yes, 173 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: he would be better than Andy Dalton doing that. But 174 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, like like the old saying Parcel says, you know, 175 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: knowledge is confidence and confidence lets you play fast. So 176 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: you don't have that knowledge. You don't even know where 177 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: this s blitz is coming from. You haven't seen it before, 178 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: you haven't even played big time college football. It's gonna 179 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: be tough for him for him to just be aware 180 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: of things and grasp stuff. So, yes, if if Fletcher 181 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: Cox is running at him, he will probably be able 182 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: to get away from it quicker than Andy Dalton. But 183 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: will he even know that that that guy's coming, you know, 184 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: as early as some of the other guys would. So 185 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: I don't I don't see the advantage. I know what 186 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: you're saying, but I don't see the advantage just because 187 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: he's so raw. I can I can answer that question 188 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: with a refreshingly honest anecdote from Mike McCarthy yesterday, Calvin Watkins, 189 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: our friend. He covers the team for the Dallas Morning 190 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: He asked, it wasn't a funny Well, we'll get to that. 191 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: He asked Mike McCarthy if it's harder to design a 192 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: game plan for a seventh round rookie who's never played 193 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And McCarthy literally said, is that supposed 194 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: to be a joke? I can't tell because you're wearing 195 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: a mask, And Calvin was like, no, no, no, I'm 196 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: totally serious. And he was like, of course it's harder, 197 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: and he's like laughing as he said it. So, no, 198 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: it definitely isn't an advantage. But you know, Denucci is 199 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: an athlete, like, he is an athletic guy. He's not 200 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: even sneaky athletic like he is athletic, and so maybe 201 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: that'll help him. But I can't call it an advantage. 202 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: Well I made reference to it earlier and they've just 203 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: called him athletic, and he cann't have athleticism. But in 204 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: my eyes, he looks so fragile and skinny, and most 205 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: rookies come into their first year, you know, a little skinny, 206 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: and usually they start gaining some muscle as the years 207 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: go by. So that's the aspect that scares me. The 208 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: confusion that Nick mentioned him kind of hesitating and then 209 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: because of that hesitation being tackled, being tacked and then 210 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: causing a possible injury. And I guess I'm just panicking 211 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: even more now that we've seen it happen, and then 212 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: we're down to our third quarterback. It's just like you're 213 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: more hesitant with everything. So I'm just I am honestly 214 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: scared for him right now. You know. It's interesting. It 215 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: reminds me of what Kellen Moore had to say yesterday 216 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: in his press conference. I think it was yesterday, but 217 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: he was saying, you know, one of the big things 218 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: about Ben Denucci is he just got to make sure 219 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: he can call the play. And that's where I was like, Wow, 220 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: that's where we are right now. Can you call the play. 221 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: Can you get the play called in the huddle in 222 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: a way to where everybody knows what they're supposed to 223 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: do and get it right, because, by the way, that's 224 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: the last thing that offensive line needs is more confusion 225 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: in the huddle, right, So that tells you kind of 226 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: where they are from the standpoint of experience. I mean, 227 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: this is guy had no preseason action, even like, that's 228 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: how hard this will make sure. McCarthy said another question 229 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: about that today. Somebody asked, like, are you above putting 230 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: a wristband on him? You know, like you typically associate 231 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: that with high school and college football, And McCarthy was like, 232 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: I think we'll be okay because we got the micro 233 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, we got the headsets and the helmets. But 234 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm not above anything if I think it'll work or 235 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do at this point. All right, let's 236 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: want to another question. Let's assume that and I think 237 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: it's a fair assumption that Zach Martin will be back 238 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: this week. Would you keep the offensive line the same 239 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: or and just plug zach In at right guard? And 240 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: if not, what would you do? Let's start with you day. 241 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: Can I answer your question with a question? Sure? Do 242 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: I get Joe Looney too, because I'd love to moves 243 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: act to tackle. But who's sure, let's slay to Joe's back. 244 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: Let's let's assume Joe is back. I actually tell me 245 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: what you would do? You know, I think I might 246 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: do it anyway, honestly, because Connor McGovern seemed to hold 247 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: up okay, like he wasn't he wasn't awful the other 248 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: day and that was a really good front. I'm terrified 249 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: at Fletcher Cox's playing against Connor McGovern, But but are 250 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: you more afraid of Terrence Steele up against who has 251 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: killed cowboy quarterbacks in the past. Absolutely, I am so Yeah. 252 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: I think I probably would. Yeah, I mean I think 253 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: it starts with Steele As to being out, I mean 254 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: you have to replace him some one way or another. 255 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: He can't be your right tackle anymore. Uh, you know, 256 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: good good story, good player. I mean maybe he will 257 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: be a good player at some point, but right now 258 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: he's not there. I would move Zach Martin out there, 259 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: from what I've been told, the guy that might not 260 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: start this week as Connor Williams. Yeah, wow, if I'm 261 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: just that's just what I've been told that it cut 262 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: the mustard could be McGovern or, probably Irving Looney, Beaddish 263 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: McGovern and Zack Martin. Don't hold me to that. I'm 264 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: just saying that's they're thinking. Connor Williams. Say a little 265 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: more than that, because I'm confused right now. What are 266 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: you confuse about? Yeah? What's do you really think Connors 267 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: played well enough where he shouldn't be above reproach? Here? 268 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: I hold on before she answered, let me just say, 269 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I would do that. I wouldn't. I'm 270 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: going with this. Many guys that have seen the Eagles 271 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: are seen an NFL you know, front before, so I 272 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: I think I would do that over Connor McGovern I 273 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: haven't seen enough yet, But I'm just saying it's all 274 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: being tossed around right now. If I have Joe Looney back, 275 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: imagining his back already, this is what I would do. 276 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: I would put Connor Williams and Sack Martin, moved them 277 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: out to tackle, keep Connor McGovern guard and Joe Louney 278 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: i ard and then Beatish at center. I think that 279 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: at this point, because I feel that maybe that's I 280 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: don't want to say it's gonna start giving you some 281 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: kind of consistency because at this point, I mean injuries, 282 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: you don't know when they're gonna happen, but at least 283 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: you're It would make me feel better at the tackle position. 284 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: And a guard like Dave bensh I mean McGovern he's 285 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: been doing an okay job, so he seems like he's 286 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: gonna hold up Biddish. He seems to be doing fine 287 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: as well. And at least with Joe Looney, we know 288 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: he's a vet, he has the experience and he can 289 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: probably hold up a guard as well. Doing a good 290 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: job there, So I would love I would love to 291 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and put Connor Williams at tackle. All right, 292 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna check our first break. When we come back. 293 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks should be joining us. We'll ask him some 294 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: questions about this Philadelphia defense going up against this Cowboys offense. 295 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: We come right back. 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So make sure you joined in these for 355 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the shows a day and then all 356 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: the shows tomorrow. We'll be out here in the outside 357 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: the Ford Center at the Star all right, So let's 358 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: let's jump back in. We've got Bucky Brooks now joining us. 359 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: What's up, Bucky, Welcome to the show. We'll start where 360 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: we start every week. Give us the strengths and weaknesses 361 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: of this Philadelphia defense and the right up front of 362 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Plus your talks, Brandon Graham, very 363 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: really good have done. Did bring that rush you with four? 364 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: They need to bring others and when they're able to 365 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: control the line of scrimmage, they're a handful. I would say. 366 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: The weaknesses already at the second level. They're linebackers. They 367 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: don't really invest a lot in the linebacker position, and 368 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: so if you want to get them, it's all about 369 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: attacking their linebackers. But they're backed up by secondary the 370 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: various lave that can cover, and so it's a defense 371 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: where they have to be able to get it done 372 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: with the front four. If they can't get it done 373 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: with the front four, they can struggle at times. So 374 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: holding up to get good team Bucky, I want to 375 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: know we we just in the first time man we 376 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: talked about the Cowboys online. I just want to know 377 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: more in depth about the pass rush that the Eagles 378 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: have right now and how that could be maybe a 379 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: problem for the Cowboys. Well, it should be a problem 380 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: because they have three guys that can get home Schleussian 381 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: Cox is where it stars. He's an interior pass rusher, 382 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: has size, has strength, has power, and when motivated, he 383 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: can take over the game by himself. Brandon Graham is 384 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: a guy that is an energize with Bunny off the edge. 385 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: He's not necessarily a double visit chack artist, but he 386 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: is persistent and he's problematic. His ability to play with leverage, 387 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: his ability to play with a relentless spirit gives upon 388 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: his problems. And because he is what I call an 389 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: undersize pass rusher, tall pass protectors can have a problem 390 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: because if he gets a funny that he can walk 391 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: it back to the quarterback and then Derek Cornett is 392 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: someone who is very sound technically doesn't get a lot 393 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: of fanfare, but he also can create problems off the backside. Bucky, 394 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: are you warm right now? I am? I am. I'm 395 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: the one heart of my own home and perfect. Yeah, 396 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: there's one I just want to make sure too far 397 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: a question, man, if you were the Eagles defense, would 398 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: you have to pull up James Madison tape right now 399 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: if you were just to try to scout Jane ben 400 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: de Nucci. Yeah, like you surely have looked at the 401 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: Jmutabe just to get an idea of what he's been 402 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: comfortably doing in his time, because you don't have enough 403 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: from the previous game against the rushing football team to 404 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: really know. So the advanced scout, the pro scout is 405 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: looked at h him and he's given Jim Schwortz No 406 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: if I'm sure Jim Schwartz has looked a little bit 407 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: at the jamutabe just to get a feel for how 408 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: he plays. But yeah, you got attack him based off 409 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: of what he did at JMU. You realize that he's athletics, 410 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: he can run. The Cowboys could add some wrinkles that 411 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: can give you problems. So yeah, you have to look 412 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: at the jamutage in the prayer. I doubt he faced 413 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: a Fletcher Cox on that schedule at JMU, though I 414 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: doubt it. Probably you know anybody like that, Bucky, I uh, 415 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, And I feel like all we've done is 416 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: talk about the Eagles pass rush, but understandably so, so 417 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to pitch it to you. We were just 418 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: talking in the first segment about what to do with 419 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: Zack Martin. If I tell you, I mean, Zack Martin 420 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: should be back for this game. One of the best 421 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: guards in football. Is he more useful to you going 422 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: against Fletcher Cox on the inside or on the outside 423 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: against Brandon Graham. Where would you rather have him for 424 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: this game? Geez, I think such a cut is a 425 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: better player. But I think if Jack Martin can go 426 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: out and play right tackle, I will put him in 427 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: right tackle because I think we have seen the struggles 428 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: with Terry Steel's head. I think you can kind of 429 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: make a manage or make do. If you're struggling in 430 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: a little inside, you can help. The center can help. 431 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a little tighter in the neighborhood. But the 432 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: struggles off the edge have been the ones where we're 433 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: seeing the turnovers happen. If zag Morton is comfortable playing 434 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: right tackle or just playing tack housing in attack. Hey, 435 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: Bucky talking about Ben Denucci. Take me back to pre 436 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: draft and I know you're you're a draft guy. You 437 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: look at all the players coming out. Give me your 438 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: best scouting report on him, both strengths and weaknesses coming 439 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: out of college. I mean in stress where his traite, 440 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: I mean he had a big arm. He is that 441 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: he has a bit of a gun slinger mentality, and 442 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: so when he is rolling and streaky, he can make 443 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: it happen. I think the weaknesses would be just because 444 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: of his arm and because he has always been able 445 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: to trust it. Particularly at that level, he could be 446 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: a little late to fire, and sometimes he feels like 447 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: he can overpower the defense and fit it into a 448 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: small window. So his biggest weakness will be understanding who 449 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: he is and how he has to play. And this 450 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: game is so much faster when he gets to this level. 451 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: How quickly can he adjust the quick reactions from the 452 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: defense and Nick Jim Schwartz is not one that typically 453 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: does a lot of disguise and complexity in terms of 454 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: his scheme, But how quickly can he identify what they're 455 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: doing pre snap? And how much does it change post snap? 456 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: When they do try to rock a road? The safety 457 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: can give him a different look after the ball has 458 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: already been spent by let's say Bendy Nucci. It is 459 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: constantly under pressure this Sunday, and then the Cowboys have 460 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: to turn to the running game and the sea kilalia 461 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: is that? I mean? Do you see this matchup being 462 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: a game where maybe the Cowboys can be able to 463 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: utilize the run and actually getting moving a little bit 464 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: better than what we've seen so far. I think they 465 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: can utilize the run. I think Mike McCarthy may have 466 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: led the kid out the bag a little bit when 467 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: he talked about Ben Dnucci's athleticism a running skill. Maybe 468 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: we see some quarterback play some zone read stuff where 469 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: they put it in Jigbellion read it and major quarterback 470 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: takes off a couple of times just to stretch the 471 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: defense in a different way. But this has to be 472 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: a deep game. It has to be a big more game. 473 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: We talked about it each every week. He has to 474 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: get to a certain point. But I know, I now 475 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: know that Kellen Moore has to know that he has 476 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback and he cannot think that a rookie 477 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: quarterback can throw forty times successfully. They have to find 478 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 1: a way to run the ball. They maybe a more 479 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: conservative game plan, but this has a big game where 480 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: you kind of play old school football and you hope 481 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: that your defense is up to the challenge that maybe 482 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: create the turn lucky. When you watch the tape the 483 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: other day, what did you see from cde Lamb obviously 484 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: didn't have a catch the first time in his in 485 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: his career. You know he kind of had I guess 486 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: you would say he definitely had a down game. How 487 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: do you think he bounces back? And also, like what 488 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: did you see on tape from him? Was a concentration 489 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: just just not you know, getting watching the ball in Yeah, 490 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: I just think there were like simple concentration drops, nothing 491 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: that I would be alarmed at. Sometimes the ball jumps 492 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: upon you quick as a receiver, beer a little quicker, 493 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: and then in traffic, all it takes is one or 494 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: two things to kind of catch the attention of the 495 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: eye and you take your eye off of the ball. 496 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: I think he would be fine. In fact, I think 497 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: he's probably a little more determined to come back and 498 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: have a big game. I wonder how the Cowboys would 499 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: utilize and the quicker than passing game, because you don't 500 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: really want to have these exectic or intestate. Ross would 501 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: be in denuci a quarter. But I think early on 502 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: you got to feed the ball to cd lad to 503 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: get him comfortable, because he is certainly one of the 504 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: best playmakers if I'm the best playmaker on the forma. 505 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: I want to preface this by saying that I feel 506 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: stupid asking so I understand, like you don't want to 507 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: throw at forty times with Ben Denucci. I get that, 508 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: but we have seen the Cowboys victimized this secondary in 509 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: the past. You know, Marii Cooper has big games against 510 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: these guys on a regular basis. Dak has thrown for 511 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: four hundred on multiple occasions. I get you don't want 512 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: to live that way, but you know, Ronald Darby's not there. 513 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins isn't there anymore. I mean, if they dial 514 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: up five or six shots downfield, just drop back and 515 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: let Gallup or Cooper go downfield and get it. I mean, 516 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: is there a chance that that might be successful? I mean, 517 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's all about Tommy. I mean, 518 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: when I look at this secondary, Darious play is the 519 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: only one that we would consider a little ship players. 520 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: The rest of those guys are just guys. I mean, 521 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: Vante Maddock is okay. We're seeing Cravon LeBlanc have some issues. 522 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: He struggled a little bit against the Giants, Fiar Robie 523 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: Coleman has also had problems. So yeah, there's some matchups 524 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,239 Speaker 1: that are there. But I think, but you have to 525 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: wait when you tell them more and your Mike McCarthy 526 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: risk versus reward? How often are we willing to risk 527 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: putting the ball in then demetri Canes and having him 528 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: throw it versus what are the rewards going to be? 529 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: What we do elect to take that strategy. It could 530 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: be fruitful, it could be successful, but I still think 531 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: you want to keep him on a pretty tight pitch 532 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: count because you just don't know what he's going to do, 533 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: particularly because it's his first game as a starter, and 534 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: it's also the first time that an opponent has prepared 535 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: to face him, which is different than him hopping off 536 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: the dancing going to play. We're joined by Bucky Brooks 537 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: of NFL Network, and Bucky, before we let you go, 538 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: we want to get your final thoughts heading into this 539 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: Cowboys Eagles matchup. What do you think happened and who 540 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: do you think wins? Man. So, I think it's the 541 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: great step this week to clean up the defense. I 542 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: don't know if it will result in an immediate result 543 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: in the win column, but I do think they've got 544 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 1: the attention as the players. I think you see a 545 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: better effort from the player. I still think this is 546 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: a very wonderful game because when I've seen the Eagles played, 547 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't set the world on fire over. 548 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: They're often. I think it's really all about can you 549 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: get pressure to Carson Went pression Went will turn the 550 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: ball over, But it comes down to you, can you 551 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: for us them to turn it over behind the weak 552 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: pensil Lionas to ring the twenty eight sex, I would 553 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: like to think the energy and the effort from Randy, 554 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: Gregory Braley and I to go with autism should be enough. 555 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna be tough. I think this 556 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: is the field goal game. Either way, it's you can 557 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: get reach up the game in the season's problem. All right, Bucky, 558 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us. 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We are alive at the funtwn RV 603 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: tailgate here from the Tostitos Championship Plaza at Ford Center 604 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: at the Star. I think that was a good idea, though, Derek, 605 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: what he just said in the break. We usually go 606 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: four to five minutes. He said he was gonna go 607 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: an hour. I think that's a great idea. I actually 608 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: think that's a really great idea. I'm alrighty, like we're 609 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: doing this. I'm in, let's go this point. I'm warm, 610 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. I'm here. This is not this 611 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: is not that difficult, Like this is a very talking 612 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys football gives me warm. The good little cross talk 613 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: with the Shannon in the in the group coming in there? 614 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: Who is that hanging with the boys? Was that they're on? 615 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: They're on after us. You'll never promote them. It's a podcast. 616 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: They're usually about ten minutes behind because of you. So 617 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. I can't have two former players on there. Really? Yeah, Oh, 618 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: is that that Nate Newton guy? I know him, I 619 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: know him. Some of those guys I've never heard of. 620 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: But Nate Newton Kurt Daniels, I've heard of those two. 621 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about the other guys on that show. 622 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's jump back in and Amber. We 623 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: haven't done this in a long time. I figured, since 624 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: we were all together for the first time in a 625 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: long time, we'll do a little c oh no, what 626 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: got amber? Are you sure you want to do this? 627 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm sent in fiery questions. I am sure, yes, let's go. 628 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: Put you guys on the spot. Let's go, all right. 629 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: Nick mentioned fifty four, So a lot of people are 630 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: asking about him, Jalen Smith. Should the Cowboys bench him, slash, 631 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: trade him, basically get him off the field? See? Oh no? Um? 632 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean, well, I'm see with a caveat first. You 633 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: can't trade him. You can't. Nobody would want him like 634 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: it'll it'll kill your cap. Nobody's gonna give you something 635 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: worthwhile for him if they watch the tape. So forget 636 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: about that. I mean, if if I thought it was realistic, 637 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: I would be in favor. But you can't. Um, you can't. 638 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: You can't bench him completely, like he can't just sit 639 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: him down for the rest of the year. It's the 640 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: most physical position on defense. You're gonna get hurt, YadA YadA. 641 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: But when Sean Lee is ready to play, I would 642 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: I would absolutely try to platoon them to try to 643 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: have you know, if he's playing ninety eight percent of 644 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: the snaps right now, drop it down into the sixties 645 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: or seventies, try to do something to offset that. But 646 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: I agree with the premise of the question that he's 647 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: not playing well enough to deserve one hundred percent of 648 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: the snaps. But there are only so many things you 649 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: can do about it. Yeah, you got no options right now? Yeah? 650 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: All right? Um, Nick, was there something that you were 651 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: going to add? I wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't, just because 652 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: I don't see who like for what, you know, like 653 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: who's who's coming in? Yeah? Who for what? I mean? 654 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: Sean Lee? Yeah, I like the platoon system. I think 655 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: that would be better for all of them to kind 656 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: of do that, and Joe Thomas can still play something 657 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: as well. But I just I think it's a scheme thing. 658 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got to figure out as I watched Jalen, 659 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, like attack the quarterback. They've got to figure 660 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: out ways where he can be effective. And I you know, 661 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: I've been saying that all offseason. I just don't think 662 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: that they they've done a good job with that. But 663 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: it's not I mean, what is it, like, what is 664 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: that I think he's got to go north? He can't really, 665 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a sidelined to sideline player 666 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: anymore in this day and age. I don't. That's that's 667 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: not gonna cut it unfortunately. I mean, you're right if 668 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: they want to transition him. We talked about it so 669 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: much in the offseason about him rushing the passer a 670 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: little bit more. If you want to try to transition 671 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: him to being a DPR, the hell of an expensive DPR. 672 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: But I mean, if that's what you want to do, 673 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: that's fine with me. You think, like you said, nobody 674 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: would want him. I mean, I think there's probably a 675 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: team that would be like, oh, I could do something 676 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: with him because all defensive coordinates, all coaches are heavy. 677 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: You mean, use him in a certain role. Yeah, okay, 678 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: but is he so? I'm sorry, I don't want to 679 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: cut you think he's a three four rusher. I don't know. 680 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: I would love to see him try that, but I 681 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: feel that we've seen it with the Cowboys in previous years, 682 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: where there are certain players that maybe might not be 683 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: as impressive, but the coaching staff always think that they 684 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: can convert a player into someone better on the field. 685 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, but I mean, if you 686 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: trade Jalen Smith, it's gonna kill your cap. I don't 687 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: know the numbers off top of my hand, but it's 688 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: not going to be good. This year is not the 689 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: year and a team you know. Yeah. I mean if 690 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: you were just desperate to get rid of him and 691 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: somebody was like, we'll give you a sixth, sure, but 692 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: is it worth it to do that, to just destroy 693 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: your cap to get basically nothing in return. Here's I'll 694 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: answer that. I will say that by next year, I 695 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: personally don't think it would be a good idea for 696 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys to go into the season next year with 697 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: him being a starting linebacker for them. That is the 698 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: best answer I can give you. I don't think they 699 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of options right now because I don't 700 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: think its sarily does you any good to take him 701 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: off field right now with what you got left? If 702 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't address the linebacker position in a major 703 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: way this offseason, to meet that as a mistake and 704 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: a part of doing that means most likely the first 705 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: person that you're going to be taking off the field 706 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: is gonna be Jalen in my opinion, So I think 707 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: that's how they have to address it. I think that's 708 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: really the issue is by next year, I don't think 709 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: it's a good idea to go into the season with 710 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: him being a major part of what you're doing on defense. 711 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: I think next year, though, doesn't make a lot of 712 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: sense just from a standpoint of cap because it will 713 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: be a straight wash next year. So unless he's that 714 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: much of a problem in the locker room, which I 715 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: don't think that he is, where you're like, he's got 716 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: to be away from this team. So if it's just 717 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: a wash, I think i'd rather have the player. Yeah, 718 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: that's great, but I'm saying he should not be on 719 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: he should not be a starter for you. He should 720 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: be a guy that is a backup player or a 721 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: role player for you. I don't think you should go 722 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: into next year, even with the money being the money, 723 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: because that's where you get yourself in trouble saying, well, 724 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: because we got a money, we got to play the player. No, 725 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 1: you don't. You may to keep him on your team 726 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: and you use him his insurance, that doesn't mean you 727 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: have to play him. Then you better draft Yeah, I agree, 728 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: Then you better draft a second or third rounder, if 729 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: not a first, to say you know you're gonna make 730 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand and you have to be our starter. 731 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: Exactly right. Every single year there is a player who 732 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: like he is at the center of the offseason storylines, 733 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: didn't live up to his contract, talking about cutting him 734 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: June one cut, contract restructure. Sometimes it works out and 735 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: they stay. I mean, people have been trying to get 736 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: rid of Tyrone Crawford for years. He stayed, Brandon Carr 737 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: restructured his contract, stayed. Des Bryant got cut. But it 738 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: happens all. It happens almost every year where a big 739 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: money guy is at the epicenter of this offseason, and 740 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: it'll be Jalen Smith in twenty twenty one. It will 741 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: be and I don't know for sure what's going to happen, 742 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: but every time we have and I mean hopefully life 743 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: is a little bit more normal and we can actually 744 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: talk to Stephen and Jerry Jones a little bit more often. 745 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: But he will be the guy that we're asking about 746 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: at the Combine or the Combined Zoom conference, whatever the 747 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: hell it looks like. We'll be like we're gonna do 748 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 1: with Jalen Smith likes that's what's coming. And the question 749 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: will be what does Jalen think of his own play? 750 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: Because if he thinks that, oh, I'm still just as 751 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: good as ever, then you get to that situation where 752 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: it's like, will you take a pay cut? And maybe 753 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: he says, I don't take a pay cut. Cut me, 754 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: and I'll see what happens on the open market. If 755 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: he knows that his skills are declining and he knows 756 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: that he's not playing very well, he may look at 757 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: that and say, I'm willing to take a pay cut 758 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: because I want to just keep playing. I don't know, 759 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: because I will say this, I think that at the 760 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: time that he did the deal, I think most people, 761 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,959 Speaker 1: myself included, thought the deal was actually more slant toward 762 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: the cowboys because he could have waited and maybe got 763 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: more money. And there is some thought that maybe he 764 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: did that deal at that time because he knew I 765 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: need to cash in. Now. I don't know what my 766 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: situation will be later, and now we're seeing his situation later, right, 767 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: So all I'm saying is, I don't I don't know 768 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: if he's honest enough with himself to be able to 769 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: make that kind of evaluation. But you know, if he is, 770 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: that I think will be at the upper center of 771 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: the decision on whether they he will take a pay 772 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: cut if they if they try to force him to 773 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: do that or not. All right, next washing should be 774 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: an easy answer, all right, not an easy, but quick answer. 775 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: We talked a lot about Benducci. Well, Bendyucci through his 776 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: first touchdown pass this weekend. See you know no, see 777 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: it'll be a deep pass to Michael Gallop touchdown. Okay. 778 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: I liked your idea, Like, I think, just he's got 779 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: he's got a big arm. Like, what's the worst is 780 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: gonna happen? You just sling it down field and you 781 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: hope either he catches it or you get a pass interference. 782 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: I think you take a couple shots. You know that 783 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna have about eight in the box, Yeah, maybe nine. 784 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: I mean they're they're gonna they're gonna sing. Yeah, he's 785 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: got a big arm. Yeah, I can see it happening. Okay, 786 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: we're only five days removed from Sunday, guys. And that 787 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: was That was Andy Dalton, and I mean for for 788 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: more than half of the game at least, that was 789 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: And I mean Zach will be back. I think the 790 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: world of Zach Martin. I can't convinced myself that that'll 791 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: be enough of a difference that I just I feel 792 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: bad for everybody involved. But when you're dealing with this 793 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: sort of loss, like it looks like some of the 794 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: bad high school football that I've covered, where there's just 795 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: not a whole lot you can do and unless if 796 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: it happens, it'll be a busted play where you know, 797 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: some you know, Gallop gets behind somebody and Danucci throws 798 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: it up, which is totally possible. Not saying it's impossible, 799 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: I just I think no. And by the way, that's 800 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: not me saying that I think he's gonna have some 801 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: marvelous game where he's gonna throw over three hundred yards 802 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: and just light up this Eagles. That's not what I'm 803 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: saying at all. Do I think that he can get 804 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: a good chunk of the ball downfield and Gallop happens 805 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: to be open and here we go touchdown. I do 806 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 1: think that's possible. I think it's very possible. We shall 807 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: see on Sunday. We shall all Right, the Cowboys got 808 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: rid of or said by two three of the varin 809 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: veteran free agents. I don't think they said by. I 810 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: don't think I just think they hung up. Wow. I 811 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 1: really think Ontari Poe was like my card, like didn't 812 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: even get you get getting like the you know, coach 813 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: wants to see you in his office. Deal, No, I 814 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,439 Speaker 1: don't think all right, how are you guys expecting any 815 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: other moves before the deadline. If there's one thing I've learned, 816 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: it's that you should never say never. But I still 817 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: think no, because I actually wrote about this today, like 818 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, their national publication and like, obviously cowboys get clicks. 819 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: But people are like, oh, the Cowboys are in cell mode. 820 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: No they're not. They got rid of a one year 821 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: rental player and two bad veterans. Like, that's not a 822 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: fire sale, right, Miami did a fire sale. They traded 823 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: their franchise left tackle and their veteran receiver and all, 824 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: and they dealt Robert Quinn to Dallas. They dealt their 825 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: starting quarterback away. That's a fire sale. This is just 826 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: a bad team purging some unnecessary guys. And you know, 827 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: here's my question for you guys. Do you think that 828 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: at all the guys that they got rid of they 829 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: got rid of them not only because of the way 830 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 1: they played, but also because maybe there was a thought 831 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: that some of the talk that was coming out of 832 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: the locker room, as anonymous sources may have been in 833 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: that group of players. Maybe, I mean, I mean, Griffin's 834 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: name was mentioned as possible here because he and that 835 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: happens when you when you say some things like he 836 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: did earlier about you know, just not used to this 837 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: scheme and and all that. But you know, I think 838 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: that I think it was sending a message. I really do. 839 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I hope that you know, 840 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: people in the locker room can you know, accept it, 841 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: But but I think it was. I think it was like, hey, 842 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: it's time to to you know, we got to do 843 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: something here. We can't just sit there and and and 844 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: continue to do what we've done. And so I think 845 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: I think Dave's right. I mean, this is this is 846 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: nothing to do other than the fact that for this 847 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: season they were kp for this season. I'm not saying 848 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: that they haven't in their career, but they weren't. They 849 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: weren't good, they weren't playing. And you know, it's sad 850 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: that Jerry had to come out and call out Dontari 851 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: Poe that way. But I don't know why he did it, 852 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: because he's because he's not he doesn't want to get 853 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: called out for other reasons when clearly that wasn't the case. 854 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: And we'll find out how much that's the case, Let's 855 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: see who signs Poe if anyone else signs him. I mean, 856 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: well you've already have you already heard that. I saw 857 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: a tweet the yesterday where there was someone saying, you know, 858 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: he hasn't been right since some injury that he had, 859 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: and so he's going to take a month to be 860 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: able to kind of get himself right, and then this 861 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: might be a late season signing for someone. So what 862 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: we will see is is it a late season signing 863 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: and when he gets back in there, is he able 864 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: to do something? Because I will say this, you look 865 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: at his numbers from last year, his numbers weren't bad, 866 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: like he was a productive player statistically last season. Now, 867 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,439 Speaker 1: when you want to think about it, overall, that run 868 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: defense wasn't great, And anytime the run defense isn't great, 869 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna look at the nose tackle and the 870 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: defensive end in a three to four because they're probably 871 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: a part of that. But that all being and said, 872 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 1: I do think that, you know, maybe there is something 873 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 1: to the fact that he wasn't healthy that that may 874 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: have contributed to him gaining weight and he didn't come 875 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: in quite ready to play, and maybe he needs to 876 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: get himself right and maybe he can get back to 877 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: playing as he played last year to some degree. Very 878 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's easy to demonize the guy that got cut, 879 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: and we don't, you know, we haven't gotten to know 880 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: these guys the way that we normally would. But he 881 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: was always super professional and seemed like a very nice guy, 882 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: had some you know, I think on one or two 883 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: occasions he talked about why he was protesting, and he 884 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: was very eloquent about it, like he clearly put a 885 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: lot of thought into it. So, I mean, I don't 886 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 1: have anything bad to say about the guy other than 887 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: that he did not play very well for this defense. 888 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: And then you could see that like that was very 889 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: very playing. You could see he wasn't playing well. Maybe 890 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: there are reasons for it, maybe there aren't, but he 891 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: just wasn't playing well well. He goes back to a 892 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: lot of the conversations that I've started to see recently, 893 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: whether the coaching staff did enough of a good job 894 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: of evaloading some of these free a agents before they 895 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: signed them. But here's the final question. If we have 896 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: number one more, do you guys see any coaching changes 897 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: happening mid season or at some point before the season ends. 898 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: If it keeps up like this, see, I mean, see, 899 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: think about how bad, like how bad it feels, how 900 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: it's it's not fun being here right now. And that's 901 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: not just because we're outside like the team. I mean, 902 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 1: this isn't great, but just the vibe in the building sucks. 903 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: When the team is struggling like this. It always has, 904 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: it always will And they're only two and five. We're 905 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: not even at the halfway point. And if this keeps up. 906 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 1: See and I'm not not Mike McCarthy, but the defensive coordinator, 907 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: the DBS coach, like I hate to like, I'm not 908 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 1: trying to throw people under the bus, but if if 909 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: it looks like this nine more times with no side 910 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: of him, I mean, are you kidding me? And by 911 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: the way, don't forget they have what people are saying 912 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: is the easiest schedule down the stretch in the NFL 913 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 1: as far as the teams they will have to play. 914 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: If it looks like it looked last week against that's 915 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: what that's what I've heard is they have the easiest schedule. 916 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: So if it looks like it looked against the Washington 917 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: football team, which we know they aren't you know that 918 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: that's not a great offense, but they look pretty good 919 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: that day. If you got more of those kind of 920 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: games against teams that are like that, then yeah, I 921 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: think at some point something has to change if they start, 922 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: if they start scrapping, and like I could bring up 923 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen all the time, like, go watch those games. 924 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: It didn't look like this. They were. Those games were 925 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: heartbreaking in their own right because you're like, they're doing 926 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,439 Speaker 1: the best they can with what they got and it's 927 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 1: just not good enough. That's not what this has been. 928 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: And if it stays like that, then who knows what's 929 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: going to happen. That is a rap. We appreciate you 930 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: guys joining us for the Fun Town RV tailgate. We'll 931 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. We'll be doing the same thing. Hopefully 932 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: it'll be a little bit warmer, a little less windy, 933 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: and we'll still have some great opinions from these guys 934 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: until tomorrow. From Nick Eatman, Dave Elm and Ambergarcia. I'm 935 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: Derek Eilton. This has been the Break live at Dallas 936 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Radio. Oh my god. This has been 937 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 938 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club