1 00:00:15,276 --> 00:00:21,956 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Hey, there against the Rules listeners. We'll be back 2 00:00:21,956 --> 00:00:25,196 Speaker 1: with a new season in April. Until then, here's a 3 00:00:25,276 --> 00:00:27,676 Speaker 1: preview of a special project that we've been working on. 4 00:00:30,756 --> 00:00:32,636 Speaker 1: I was twenty seven years old when I wrote my 5 00:00:32,676 --> 00:00:37,476 Speaker 1: first book. It was called Liars Poker. His friends thought 6 00:00:37,476 --> 00:00:39,396 Speaker 1: he was crazy when he quit in nineteen eighty seven 7 00:00:39,436 --> 00:00:42,116 Speaker 1: to write a book. They were wrong. The book Liars 8 00:00:42,116 --> 00:00:44,436 Speaker 1: Poker hit the New York Times bestseller list, and Michael 9 00:00:44,476 --> 00:00:46,876 Speaker 1: Lewis never went back to work on Wall Street. Now 10 00:00:46,876 --> 00:00:50,156 Speaker 1: he just writes about it. I'm Michael Lewis, and it's true. 11 00:00:50,516 --> 00:00:52,956 Speaker 1: I never went back to Wall Street, except of course, 12 00:00:52,996 --> 00:00:55,756 Speaker 1: to write about its ups and downs. I also actually 13 00:00:55,836 --> 00:00:59,796 Speaker 1: never reread Liars Poker until now, but now I'm releasing 14 00:00:59,796 --> 00:01:02,396 Speaker 1: it for the first time as an unabridged audio book 15 00:01:02,556 --> 00:01:08,316 Speaker 1: with Pushkin Industries. Here's how it starts. I was a 16 00:01:08,356 --> 00:01:17,876 Speaker 1: bond sales on Wall Street and in London, working beside 17 00:01:17,876 --> 00:01:20,996 Speaker 1: the traders at Solomon Brothers. Put me, I believe at 18 00:01:21,036 --> 00:01:23,836 Speaker 1: the epicover of one of those events that helped to 19 00:01:23,876 --> 00:01:27,596 Speaker 1: define an age. Traders are masters of the quick killing, 20 00:01:28,196 --> 00:01:29,836 Speaker 1: and a lot of the killings. In the past ten 21 00:01:29,916 --> 00:01:32,956 Speaker 1: years or so, had been quick, and Solomon Brothers was 22 00:01:33,036 --> 00:01:41,836 Speaker 1: indisputably the king of traders. While we were in the 23 00:01:41,876 --> 00:01:45,716 Speaker 1: studio making the audiobook, I kept interrupting myself. Sometimes I 24 00:01:45,756 --> 00:01:47,796 Speaker 1: was annoyed with my younger self as a writer, but 25 00:01:47,916 --> 00:01:52,076 Speaker 1: also I had so many questions, questions about what had 26 00:01:52,076 --> 00:01:54,396 Speaker 1: happened to the people I wrote about, for example, and 27 00:01:54,516 --> 00:01:57,636 Speaker 1: why did Wall Street keep getting more crazy not less 28 00:01:57,836 --> 00:02:00,756 Speaker 1: after the events I described, so I called up a 29 00:02:00,756 --> 00:02:03,636 Speaker 1: bunch of my former colleagues from Wall Street. I also 30 00:02:03,676 --> 00:02:07,236 Speaker 1: spoke with Ira Glass and George Saunders about how writers 31 00:02:07,236 --> 00:02:10,636 Speaker 1: find their voices, and all of this has come together 32 00:02:10,756 --> 00:02:15,916 Speaker 1: as a podcast miniseries called Other People's Money. Think of 33 00:02:15,956 --> 00:02:18,476 Speaker 1: it as a companion piece to the book. It was 34 00:02:18,516 --> 00:02:19,996 Speaker 1: a good time for you to write that book and 35 00:02:20,076 --> 00:02:21,916 Speaker 1: me to be forced to leave. Did you feel like 36 00:02:21,956 --> 00:02:26,036 Speaker 1: you were forced to leave by the book? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely. 37 00:02:29,396 --> 00:02:33,636 Speaker 1: If you'd told me that Solomon Brothers in nineteen eighty 38 00:02:33,716 --> 00:02:36,316 Speaker 1: nine was a kind of golden age for women, you 39 00:02:36,316 --> 00:02:41,596 Speaker 1: would not have expected that, would you? You hate the 40 00:02:41,676 --> 00:02:44,276 Speaker 1: young Michael Lewis you hate twenty seven year old you? 41 00:02:44,596 --> 00:02:47,836 Speaker 1: Twenty seven year old me has got serious character defects 42 00:02:47,836 --> 00:02:53,636 Speaker 1: that are coming through between every line. Other people's money 43 00:02:53,676 --> 00:02:56,436 Speaker 1: is coming soon right here in this feed, so keep 44 00:02:56,476 --> 00:02:59,116 Speaker 1: an ear on it, don't go anywhere, and you'll be 45 00:02:59,156 --> 00:03:01,156 Speaker 1: able to find this new and for the first time 46 00:03:01,236 --> 00:03:06,556 Speaker 1: wholly unabridged Liars Poker audiobook at Pushkin dot Fm Slash 47 00:03:06,716 --> 00:03:14,196 Speaker 1: Liar's Poker and also at Autumn Wall You were the 48 00:03:14,236 --> 00:03:16,516 Speaker 1: wolf of Wall Street. It was like the antelope of 49 00:03:16,516 --> 00:03:19,516 Speaker 1: Wall Street or the rabbit of Wall Street. I was 50 00:03:19,636 --> 00:03:20,996 Speaker 1: I was not the wolf of Wall Street.