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Speaker 1: with that. So let's start. Where do you are you

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Speaker 1: already attacking them? Was today's practice more about inserting Peyton

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Speaker 1: at the Celtics and creating a game plan today. For

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Speaker 1: us today, it was just more about ourselves, like we

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Speaker 1: got up and down, we watched we watched some clips

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Speaker 1: anything on the Celtics. We'll start doing that prep tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: But after the weekend, you know, having a couple of

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Speaker 1: wasn't them at all. Now, I know our coaching staff

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Speaker 1: has been watching them all weekend and kind of preparing

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Speaker 1: for this, but our focus today was simply just us

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Speaker 1: incorporating offensive plays that we know we're going to want

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Speaker 1: and the things that we're going to do, and more

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Speaker 1: so focused on ourselves today rather than anything on the

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Speaker 1: Boston Celtics. You know it's And I said this when

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Speaker 1: when Katie left, I said, I think he's making a

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Speaker 1: huge mistake. I said, you know how lucky you are

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Speaker 1: just got done reading three Rings on the Kobe Shack,

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Speaker 1: Phil Jackson, Lakers, Draymond. It was just a shit show. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's brew at all. I mean, you read it and

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Speaker 1: it's like, this is brutal m when you and you

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Speaker 1: may be sensitive to talk about this, but when you

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Speaker 1: watch Katie now and he's got some teammates that aren't

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Speaker 1: always there for him, and I think, oh, bro, boy,

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Speaker 1: you left, you left Rodeo drive a basketball man. This

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Speaker 1: do you see and what do you think? Or do

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Speaker 1: you not care? I care? I one hundred percent care

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Speaker 1: because that's my brother. And I always want to see

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Speaker 1: Steph is one of the greatest players I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: that's the essence of Steph. It's not a weakness. When

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Speaker 1: Steph could have definitely have finals MVPs because Steph has

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Speaker 1: He doesn't need those things to feel like Steph Kurt.

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Speaker 1: But as you do know, we live in a social

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Speaker 1: you see it. So now with Steph, does he feel

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Speaker 1: is saying that, I mean, Boston's obviously a very good team,

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Speaker 1: to myself, before you'll win it. It's just not the

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Speaker 1: same and this, and I said, I think Boston could

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Speaker 1: outplay Golden State multiple times in the series and lose

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Speaker 1: close games. They're just they felt so tight in a

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Speaker 1: couple of these games late. I'm like, God, they're clearly

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Speaker 1: they've got more versatility. I just don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what do you expect the finals to look like? I

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Speaker 1: don't well, I mean this series was a hard one,

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Speaker 1: the Miami series. I mean, look at all the games

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Speaker 1: and you know you had I mean really, Game one

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Speaker 1: was a microcosm of the season of the series. Boston

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Speaker 1: was great in the first half, and then all of

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Speaker 1: second half, and then Boston beats him in Game two

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Speaker 1: and then Miami game like it was just and nothing

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Speaker 1: was close. I think it was competitive. There was that

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Speaker 1: one game, was it three or four where Miami led

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Speaker 1: the whole game in Boston had a chance late, but

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Speaker 1: I think it was three. What do I expect? I mean, like, look,

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Speaker 1: I think the questions remain, can you keep hiding staff defensively?

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to attack him, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: I think Boston does a pretty good job. They were

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Speaker 1: clearly hunting Max Strus, they're late. I'm interested in how

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Speaker 1: Boston defends Golden State. And here's why. The way Boston

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Speaker 1: plays is basically the way that almost everybody plays in

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Speaker 1: the NBA now right, where you attack, mismatches your space,

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Speaker 1: and when help comes, you've got shooting on the week

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Speaker 1: side side and the non shooters are cutters. Right. That's

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Speaker 1: how everybody plays. There's some sets, there's some different things.

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Speaker 1: They do have the ability to post up Jerlen Brown

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Speaker 1: and Jason Tatum, but for the most part, that's how

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Speaker 1: they play Golden State. It's not traditional motion offense, but

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Speaker 1: if there was a motion offense in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: that's what looks like you've got two guys in professional

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Speaker 1: motion and then you play off of them, You play

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Speaker 1: off of their movement. So it's very, very different. So

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Speaker 1: how you've defended the whole year is completely different than

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Speaker 1: how you defend here right in the NBA, it's how

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Speaker 1: do you switch ball streams? They run the fewest number

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Speaker 1: of ball streams of anybody in the league, So how

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Speaker 1: do they match up? I mean, you go personnel wise,

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Speaker 1: I don't think plays the defender used to be, but

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Speaker 1: I think he's pretty darn good. Draymond obviously outstanding defensively.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder if Andre Godala finds a little fountain

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Speaker 1: of youth and gives him a couple of minutes because again,

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Speaker 1: his versatility, his size, that's exactly what they need. Just

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes against Tatum, a couple of minutes

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Speaker 1: against Taylan Brown, and then I wonder, you know, what

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Speaker 1: does Jordan Poole look like in this series? I think

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Speaker 1: Golden State has too much offense, yeah, and I think

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Speaker 1: defensively they've gotten back to the core of what they

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Speaker 1: were going back before they had Kevin Durant, where they

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Speaker 1: are a very cohesive, very good defensive team and steps

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Speaker 1: giving you just enough effort defensively, and they can rest

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Speaker 1: him just enough where he doesn't get worn down, where

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Speaker 1: they can take advantage of him. And even on games

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't shoot well, they have enough weaponry with Pool,

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Speaker 1: they have enough weaponry with with Andrew Wiggins. They have

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Speaker 1: an up weaponry with Clay Thompson to carry him when

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Speaker 1: he's not shooting the basketball. You know, I'd said the

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Speaker 1: reason I thought Golden State would would handle Dallas. I said,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to stop Luca, but Draymond and Wiggins,

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Speaker 1: who's a pretty twitchy defender. I said, they'll just make

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Speaker 1: his efficiency will drop. And I kind of look at

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Speaker 1: Tatum and it's like, if you can get Tatum to

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Speaker 1: shoot four percent, you know, field Gold percentage goes from

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Speaker 1: a forty five to forty two. I think you just

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Speaker 1: put Wiggins and Dre, you rotate it, like you say, Igwadala.

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Speaker 1: I just think they'll make life for Tatum. He'll get

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Speaker 1: his twenty six. I just think they'll make him. I

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Speaker 1: feel like they'll make him less efficient. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think you can make every one of the Warriors less efficient.

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Speaker 1: They've got too many guys who can hit shots. Would

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Speaker 1: I would tend to agree there, I would tend to agree.

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Speaker 1: And I also think, you know, look, I think Marcus Smart,

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Speaker 1: he's the defensive player. Here's a great defensive player. But again,

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Speaker 1: how you play defense against Golden State changes. It's not

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Speaker 1: just the man up man to man. You're you're having

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Speaker 1: to chase off the screens, you know, and you're continually

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Speaker 1: in motion. And then when Steph gets it, he passes.

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Speaker 1: Now he cuts off another one, and he's more dangerous

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Speaker 1: without the basketball than he is whip the basketball. There's

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Speaker 1: not anybody like that in the NB yet. There just

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Speaker 1: isn't no one moves out the basketball like those two guys.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's my first blush. But I do think

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Speaker 1: that even though Boston nearly choked that thing away up

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Speaker 1: and they tried, oh god, they tried to give that

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Speaker 1: away like missing layups, you know, and giving up layups,

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Speaker 1: I thought, I mean, like, look, I can't really fault

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler for taking that three pointer, but I do

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Speaker 1: think considering they had scored before, the Trews three two

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Speaker 1: straight lay ups driving right out at Horford and he

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Speaker 1: kind of puts his hands up and gets out of

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Speaker 1: the way. I think that would have been an at

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Speaker 1: worse two free throws, at best nan one and probably

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Speaker 1: just a layoup. But I think the construction of Golden State,

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Speaker 1: and this is kind of an underrated part. And whether

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Speaker 1: you want to say they were constructed to be Lebron

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Speaker 1: James or construct to be Kevin Durant or just constructed

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Speaker 1: for this is what twenty twenties basketball is. You have

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Speaker 1: to have three or four guys that are between six

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Speaker 1: six and six nine that can defend these superstars who

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Speaker 1: are just going and get in buckets. Right, That's the

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Speaker 1: only way. That's why Boston's here, That's why Miami got

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Speaker 1: this far even without a ton of offense. That's why

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Speaker 1: other teams are not here. Right, look at the makeup

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Speaker 1: of their team. Andrew Wiggins is a plus defender. Clay

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Speaker 1: Thompson is still a plus defender. Gary Payton, I believe

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Speaker 1: a play he's a plus plus defender, right, who I

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Speaker 1: forget Pools, I said, Clay Draymond Green plus defender, right,

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Speaker 1: and then Draymond gives the obviously the ability, and then

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Speaker 1: you have I think the challenge for Looney is will

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Speaker 1: he be able to guard Al out to you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty five feet, but Looney, considering how he plays his

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Speaker 1: long arms pretty good at rim protection. They play Robert Williams,

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Speaker 1: he'll be great there. So I really like the makeup

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Speaker 1: of their team with their length defensively and how they played.

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Speaker 1: It's different from Miami. It's a little bit more like Boston.

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Speaker 1: But long arms, good athletes make you make shouts over

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Speaker 1: the top and it hurts your efficiency. I think you're

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Speaker 1: dead on with how you want to play Jalen Brown,

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Speaker 1: how you want to play Jason Tatum. There's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a night where Jason Tatum hits everything. You know, he

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Speaker 1: hit a big shot, big side step three in this game.

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Speaker 1: But you put a hand in the space for a

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Speaker 1: long arm and you body him enough and you have

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Speaker 1: a like sized defender that's gonna you've got. If you

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Speaker 1: just keep takeaway the layups and have more layups than

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Speaker 1: they do, you're gonna win. I agree with you in

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Speaker 1: terms of the defensive game plan. Well, if Boston's gonna

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win a couple of games. Yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good series. And I think it's good for

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Speaker 1: the league to have East West the history of Boston.

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Speaker 1: But also the newness of Tatum, with the new history

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Speaker 1: of Golden State. I think it's a very watchable series.

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Speaker 1: It's probably the best the league could have hoped for.

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Speaker 1: But I'm I go in with the thought that Golden

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Speaker 1: do think they're back to playing with joy, whether it's

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Speaker 1: gotten more skilled. The international players, who used to be

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Speaker 1: soft but skilled, have gotten tougher. And I mean there's

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Speaker 1: obviously that you have outliers like Luca is just different

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Speaker 1: and Jannis has developed into a different player. But I

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Speaker 1: Alabama quarterbacks would always win in the league and Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: but the NFL is really about are you coachable? Do

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Speaker 1: and the small guys didn't shoot, they distributed, and then

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Speaker 1: everybody now can defend multiple positions, everybody can kind of shoot.

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Speaker 1: The international guys are now not soft, the domestic guys

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Speaker 1: you're the small school guys comes in. It's it's honestly,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I don't. I don't know if Brad's

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Speaker 1: that same kind of guy, right, Like Portland State made

638
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: it to the league right then starts out bottom of

639
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: the bottom of the pecking order, works his way up

640
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: as an assistant becoming a head coach. But those guys

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Speaker 1: credit Boston, they've shown that, they've shown the bill to

642
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: be coachable. Yeah. I mean, look, Marcus Smart called called

643
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: both of them out early in the year for being

644
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: selfish and not playing defense, and you know what, they're

645
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: less selfish and they're playing defense. Not Jason Tann's not

646
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: a great defender, He's not Michael Cooper locking dude's down,

647
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: but he's he's palatable. And Jalen Brown's a good to

648
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: fail plus defender and much more of a willing pastor.

649
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: They're trusting their teammates more, and then Golden State. I

650
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: think that's the that's the whole thing. You have a

651
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: coach who they like, um who who has created a

652
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: style and a system and a culture that fits him.

653
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: But you also have superstars who are just different. Male

654
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: Clay writes his ebike to work right right, all these

655
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: other dudes are hopping out of Lambeo's doing the doing

656
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: the catwalk in some ridiculous outfit wearing a skirt into

657
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: the arena and Clay's coming in on an ebike and

658
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: you know, in steps wearing his sweats and some you know,

659
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: he might as well be wearing hoop shorts, you know,

660
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: and a hoodie coming in just just going into hoop. Right,

661
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: So I do think culture, coachability and the coaches themselves

662
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: and what they've been able to, what they were able

663
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: to do, and you know, you know, it's it's interesting, like,

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Speaker 1: please don't tell me you need head coaching experience. Team

665
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have it. Steve Kurt didn't have it. He never

666
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: coached in his life, right, Either you can relate to

667
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: those guys, you can put him in a system, you

668
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: can create a staff that knows what you don't know,

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Speaker 1: or you can't. And then you have to have the players.

670
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: But you have to have the players playing away, which

671
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: is conducive to him. And then they basically have to

672
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: buy in. And the Boston guys coach build is a

673
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: big thing. Those guys bought into email. It wasn't right away, like,

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00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: let's not all they struggle. First half of the the season

675
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: was a disaster, right, bad, not good, But at some

676
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: point there was a tipping and I think it was

677
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: when Marcus called him out, you know, and look, Marcus

678
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: isn't for everybody, but I said this, and I don't

679
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: know if you're agreed. You look at any great team,

680
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: they all have that one guy who he's just an asshole,

681
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: but you have you have to have a one asshole policy, right,

682
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: Like you can have multiple guys, but that's that one

683
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: guy who everybody, somebody on their team wants to fight

684
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: him every game. That's Marcus Smart, that's Draymond Greene. Like,

685
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: there's no great team that doesn't have at least one.

686
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: And some other guys kind of take on that take

687
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: on that kind of personality. But they're willing to take

688
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: the booze. They're willing to take the elbows. They're willing

689
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: to dive on the floor, they're willing to get called

690
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: out for flopping. They're willing to start a fight with somebody.

691
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: You know, their game's not pretty, but they just kind

692
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: of And Marcus Smart is that guy. He's their Draymond

693
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Speaker 1: green He just scours a little bit better. He's obviously

694
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Speaker 1: a little bit smaller. But I think that that stirs

695
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: the drink. And he started to drink for that team

696
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: when they were bad, and obviously now when he can score.

697
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: And let's not forget the biggest play he made in

698
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: the playoffs was to pass against the Nets Game one,

699
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: when everybody in the world thought he was gonna shoot.

700
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: He shot, faked and through it to Tatum cutting right,

701
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: and that's that kind of ended the series in game one.

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Speaker 1: So but I think Coachabildi is big, and I think

703
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: toughness is big, and then you have to add that

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00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: one guy who can take take all the grief from

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Speaker 1: the opposing fans from the opposing team. All right, Chad Millman,

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Speaker 1: CCO Action Network, all odds provided by FanDuel. All right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna I'm not gonna waste any time

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Speaker 1: here because I'm going to tell you the single best

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Speaker 1: bet in the finals NBA Finals right now, and I

710
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: feel so good about it. I may bet some of

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Speaker 1: my real estate on this, and I am a bit

712
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: of a tycoon when it comes to that. So here

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Speaker 1: we go. Celtics plus one and a half in the

714
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: first half of Game one. If you look at overly

715
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: rested teams, which the Warriors are, and they're inserting Peyton

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Speaker 1: returns auto porter returns, Andre Iguadolla returns. Shall they add

717
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: three players? They have this extended period off. I'm not

718
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: bet in the game Boston will come in. Boston got

719
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: enough days off, so mostly a young team, guys going

720
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: into their prime. Boston leaves at half Game one, strongest

721
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: bet of the entire finals. I will not hear any

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Speaker 1: dissension on this, But what's your thought? I love that

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Speaker 1: you and I did not discuss this before we started

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I have made two bets on the Finals

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Speaker 1: so far, and both of them will give you an

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Speaker 1: indication of which way I am leaning, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: is the opposite of what a lot of models are

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Speaker 1: doing right now. I have made a bet on Steph

729
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: Curry at plus four twenty on FanDuel to lead the

730
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: series in average points and threes. And I have made

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Speaker 1: a bet on the Golden State Warriors minus one and

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Speaker 1: a half in the first half of Game one. Not great,

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Speaker 1: not great. Well, it depends like you could be right

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00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: or I could be right. You're a real estate tycoon,

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Speaker 1: you're a media tycoon. You are ascendant. I'm a guy

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Speaker 1: who you know has already sold his business that is

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Speaker 1: based in sports betting, and you know spent my life

738
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Speaker 1: doing this, so we can let the listeners decide which

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00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: way to go. But I feel like I like the look.

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Speaker 1: I like the Warriors in game one overall at minus

741
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: three and a half. I do worry late in the

742
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: game there is too much file shooting variants, whereas in

743
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: the first half. I like the Warriors to win this game.

744
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: There is less file shooting variants in the first half.

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00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: You're just not getting the files at the end of

746
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: the At the end of the first half, it's playing

747
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: sort of the way the game is supposed to play out.

748
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: I like the Warriors coming out strong, having had the rest,

749
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: knowing the experience, knowing the importance of getting out early

750
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: in games like this, also knowing that what they do

751
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: in the third quarter dictates how they do in a game.

752
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: And I know they don't want to go into the

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00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: third quarter needing to have a massive burst the way

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00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: they have had in other games, because the Celtics are

755
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: a better team. They're their teams they played, so it

756
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: will be harder to make that comeback. So I like

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00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: the Warriors in the first half minus one and a half. Yeah,

758
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: you know, the Celtic fans are saying Listen, we won

759
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: back to back game sevens, but Milwaukee and Miami essentially

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00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: you defended one guy. There was one elite score on

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00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: both teams. It's I was talking to was It the

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00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: other day, an executive in the NBA, and he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, the problem facing Golden State is that because

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00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: of their ball movement and players off the ball, a

765
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: lot of your defensive strategies just don't work. So and

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00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: he said, Jordan Poole, Steph Curry, you know, Peyton Wiggins.

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00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: They have a lot of guys that can have quick

768
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: first step that can beat you off the dribble. He says,

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00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: So they're hard to trap because they have a lot

770
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: of guys. I mean, God, Draymond averages six assists a game.

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00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: He's a catalyst. And he was just saying, you know

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00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: a lot of things that work against everybody else. You know.

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00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: In his point was look at a gap between Golden

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00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: State and Phoenix, and we thought Phoenix was excellent, and

775
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: there you can really defend them, and there's real limitations.

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00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: And Phoenix doesn't play well from behind because they don't

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00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: shoot threes. He's like, it's hard to marginalize the Warriors.

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00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: They do everything well their experience. They manipulate the refs,

779
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: they manipulate your traps, and that to me is the series.

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00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: I said this, I think Boston could outplay the Warriors

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00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: in four games, and the Warriors win the series in

782
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: five games. I have I like the Warriors in six.

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Speaker 1: I like the Warriors. And I said this on the

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Speaker 1: Favorite podcast and the Volume podcast network. I had two

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Speaker 1: guys on, Jason timp who hosts a podcast on your network,

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00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: and one of our action analysts for the NBA, and

787
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: they were both on the podcast telling me about why

788
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: they thought that Dallas Warriors series could be more competitive

789
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: than it was. All great logic, great reason, and when

790
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: it was over, I'm like, this is great. It's Warriors

791
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: in five. And as soon as the series for the

792
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: Celtics and Warriors was settled, I thought to myself, Warriors

793
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: in six. And what you're getting a lot of chatter

794
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: about right now is that a lot of models like

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00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: the Celtics. Right I've spoken to two or three guys

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00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: professional betters who have the models like in the Celtics.

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00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: I've spoken to more professional betters who are looking at

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00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: the Warriors at one sixty to win the series and

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00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: loading up just thinking, how are people? How are the

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00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: Warriors not minus two hundred in this because if you

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Speaker 1: look at the Celtics offense, it's not as coordinated as

802
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: you would think, and it's a lot of bullrush the basket.

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00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: It's a lot of perimeter shooting around, perimeter shooting from

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00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: the three. And while defensively they're amazing, what you just

805
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: said holds true, it's really hard to adjust against a

806
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: constantly fluid Warriors offense. But also, like I think there's

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00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: recency bias on the Celtics winning game sevens and people

808
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: giving them more credit for that instead of recognizing dudes,

809
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: if not for a Jason Tatum miracle last second lay

810
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: up against the Nets, you might not perform so well

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Speaker 1: in that series. If not for Chris Middleton going out,

812
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: you might not win that series. If not for Jimmy

813
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: Butler getting hurt, you might not steal a couple of games.

814
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: So I am not looking at the Celtics thinking what

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Speaker 1: you did in these multiple game seven wins is heroic.

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00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm thinking you kind of let these teams stick around

817
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: and didn't do you need to do to close them out,

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00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: and might have gotten some lucky breaks. So that's why

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Speaker 1: I like the Yeah, you know they also Steph went

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Speaker 1: to college three years, Clay three pool to Draymond four.

821
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Speaker 1: Wiseman played three college games. He struggled to adapt. Is

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Speaker 1: that when you look at the college and pro experience,

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr is able to do so many things on

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Speaker 1: both ends of the floor. This the IQ of this

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Speaker 1: team for the Warriors, like it rivals all time teams.

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Speaker 1: I always thought the heatles between Bosh and Battier and

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Speaker 1: Alan and Wade and Lebroun and Danis Hasl. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're like, that's a pretty smart team. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of games there. When I look at Golden State, it's

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Speaker 1: very rare that a dynasty is underappreciated. But if not

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Speaker 1: for falling apart physically against the Raptors, and if not

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Speaker 1: for one jumper by Kyrie, what does this dynasty look like? Now?

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Speaker 1: The Patriots dynasty, you can argue they could have lost

834
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: every Super Bowl except the Rams, or they could have

835
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Speaker 1: won every Super Bowl. The Warriors have actually gotten terrible

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00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: breaks in the finals. If Boge gets hurt, Draymond suspended,

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Speaker 1: Curry hurt, Calvs. Win. I mean, I've never seen a

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Speaker 1: team in a series fall apart, like against the Raptors.

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Speaker 1: So I think sometimes we look at this team and

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Speaker 1: I mean, they really invented the three ball avalanche small ball. Intellectually,

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Speaker 1: they're kind not to be. It sounds so California's smug,

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00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: but they're kind of way ahead of everybody, And I

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00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: think when you go into a series, I mean, they

844
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Speaker 1: completely discombobulated Dallas's offense, and Dallas at the end of

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00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: that series felt significantly better than Phoenix, and Dallas felt lost.

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00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: To me. I don't think Dallas ever figured out Golden State.

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Speaker 1: I felt I thought, I thought they could have swept him,

848
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Speaker 1: and Dallas is mostly young, so I just think there's

849
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Speaker 1: a bandwidth with the Warriors. It's it's very New England.

850
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: You could literally you know. Damian Woodios tells the story

851
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Speaker 1: when he was in New England. He gets we practice

852
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Speaker 1: a trick play for fourteen weeks. He was every effing

853
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Speaker 1: week at practice, and then we used it in week

854
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Speaker 1: fourteen and we're like it was one of those Oh.

855
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Speaker 1: He's like a lot of teams practice it, they can't

856
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Speaker 1: shelve it for two weeks, like they got to use it,

857
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Speaker 1: and he's like we were just playing. He goes, we're

858
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Speaker 1: just playing at a different level. He goes, we had

859
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Speaker 1: card tricks other teams didn't have, and we could use

860
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Speaker 1: them at any time because our team was so smart.

861
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Speaker 1: And that's a long winded way of saying I think

862
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Speaker 1: if these games are close, I don't think it's close.

863
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Speaker 1: I think one team has the ability to really limit

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Speaker 1: the other and trick the other and and manipulate the other.

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Speaker 1: So you and I both agree it sounds like we

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Speaker 1: like the Warriors to win this series. So here's a

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Speaker 1: couple of things to think about as a better If

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Speaker 1: you like the Warriors to win the series, then you've

869
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Speaker 1: got to think about do you think Steph has the

870
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Speaker 1: best opportunity to be the MVP. He's never won it before.

871
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: The MVP, as much as anything, is a narrative awards.

872
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: It's a great topic, right you You talk about this

873
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: like you are better than anybody at creating a tree

874
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: of what topic is going to be and then letting

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00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: branches come off it. MVP in the NBA is a

876
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: narrative award. People love to talk about it, and really

877
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: smart people think about who the voters are. Right, there's

878
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: the TV contingent, there's the West Coast contingent. There's the

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Speaker 1: beat writing contingent. There's the East Coast contingent. There's the

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Speaker 1: people who have social media followings. There's the people who

881
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: are hardcore beat writers. There's you know, all of that

882
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So a lot of sort of MVP

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00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: watchers think about the voting blocks when they're thinking about MVP.

884
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: Same home's true for NBA Finals. It's a narrative award.

885
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: Steph has yet to win the award. Now. The truth is,

886
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Steph in the finals has had a really hard time

887
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: right because people key on him defensively and look dream

888
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: on on the podcast Has with You has talked about

889
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: like how important Steph is and the double teams he

890
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: would get that allowed, you know, Kevin Durant to sort

891
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: of blossom in the finals. If you believe the Warriors

892
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: are going to win, then you have to believe Steph

893
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: will have a dominant series and that he wins the MVP.

894
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: STEP's odds on Fangol right now to be the MVP

895
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: they were at plus one twenty now they're about plus

896
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: one oh five. So if you like the Warriors to

897
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Speaker 1: win the finals, you could just as easily bet on

898
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: Steph at plus one oh five to win MVP and

899
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Speaker 1: get better odds. The better the Warriors at minus one sixty.

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00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: What do you think of that? Oh no, I think

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Speaker 1: you're right. I also, who would he compete against in

902
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: that space. Let's say Jason Tatum. But what the Warriors

903
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: and do is send Draymond and Wiggins at Tatum. Marcus

904
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: Smarts too inconsistent of a score. So I think the

905
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Speaker 1: Warriors think, let Jalen Brown beat us. We know Horford's

906
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: not going to beat us. Marcus Smart is not consistent

907
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: enough to beat us Tatum if you lower his efficiency,

908
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: Like Luca shot forty eight percent against the Sun's forty

909
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: one against the Warriors, So Spencer Dinwiddie, had he shot

910
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: Will in the series, could have been a problem. So

911
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: I think I think the Celtics are like, Jalen Brown's

912
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: going to have a really good series and that will

913
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Speaker 1: take some of the steam out of Jayson Tatum. Because

914
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: I think Wiggins is so undervalued because he's really the

915
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Speaker 1: rare number one talent. I mean, really is an incredibly

916
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: twitchy athlete, but in this culture, he's not an essential

917
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Speaker 1: core player. But yet he was very disrupted to Luca

918
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: because he can just go you can put him right

919
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: on Tatum and just say he's such a twitchy athlete.

920
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: He doesn't buy your pump fakes because he's so quick.

921
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: He's so quick vertically he doesn't buy your fakes, and

922
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: so he just he's in your face when you shoot.

923
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: He lowers your shooting percentage. And so the other thing

924
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: that helps Steph is his primary rival in the MVP.

925
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Williams doesn't score smart and consistent, ma end up being

926
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Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown. And if it's close, nobody's giving it to

927
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Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown. Steff's gonna win it because we want stuff

928
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Speaker 1: to win it. But also you gotta like it's also

929
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Speaker 1: two different teams, right if the Celtics win it, Jaylen

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00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: Brown could be a good bet. If the Celtics, it's

931
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: going to be the whoever wins it, the player from

932
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: that team is going to win. If the Celtics are

933
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: going to win the series, Marcus Smart has to be

934
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: perfect because he will for the most part. The Celtics

935
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: do switch a lot, and then Warriors will try to

936
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Speaker 1: get him into switches, but he will have to be

937
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: on Steph. And if the Celtics win the series, it's

938
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Speaker 1: gonna because it's gonna be because they stop Steph from

939
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: getting hot, right, and that's Marcus Smart. So you could

940
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Speaker 1: see a Marcus Smart at something like thirty to one.

941
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: It's dropped from forty five to one because people are

942
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Speaker 1: coming in and playing a little bit of the narrative

943
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Speaker 1: game and sort of the matchup game that you and

944
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Speaker 1: I are doing right now. I think on the Warriors side,

945
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Speaker 1: if it's not going to be Staff, the other guy

946
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: to think about is Draymond, because a there's a great narrative.

947
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: There's nobody more accessible than Draymond. Draymond during the finals,

948
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: will come on his podcast, We'll come on your podcast,

949
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Speaker 1: We'll go on the T and T Show. We'll say

950
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: something in a postgame press conference that will elevate his

951
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: status and make him a centerpiece of a conversation that

952
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: complimented with the way he controls the pivot and gets

953
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 1: the Warriors in the right position with his passes, plus

954
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: its defense and rebounding. If the Warriors win and it's

955
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Speaker 1: not Staff, I would put your money on Draymond. The volume.

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