Speaker 1: Will.
Speaker 2: I was very nervous about this interview, mostly for you.
Speaker 2: I fear that this guest will sense something about your
Speaker 2: attitude and haul it out. Fingers crossed though that that
Speaker 2: doesn't happen, but I can't make any promises. In twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, he made his NXT debut alongside Elton Prince
Speaker 2: as one half of the duo Pretty Deadly, who not
Speaker 2: only became tag team champions but also somehow made wearing
Speaker 2: extreme crop tops look stylish. Their flamboyant wardrobe, annoying confidence,
Speaker 2: and willingness to cheat turn them into heel favorites, eventually
Speaker 2: moving on to WWE SmackDown while leaning into a campy
Speaker 2: gimmick somewhere between Zoolander and a Y two K boy band.
Speaker 2: But when Prince suffered a severe neck injury in May
Speaker 2: of last year, it left our guest in a conundrum.
Speaker 2: What should he do now without a partner he had
Speaker 2: exclusively wrestled with for ten straight years, And that's when
Speaker 2: the phone rang asking kid, are you there? And yes,
Speaker 2: he was indeed there. He's now taken a serious bop
Speaker 2: of a theme song and some impressive comedic chops to
Speaker 2: turn a tough situation into gold. You see, his new
Speaker 2: mission is to rid the WWE roster of toxic masculinity.
Speaker 2: They can't handle someone like him, someone who moisturizes his skin,
Speaker 2: or listens to women when they talk, or can grind
Speaker 2: their hips in a very sexy manner. They are jealous
Speaker 2: and I gotta be honest. I think he's right, but
Speaker 2: I'll let you be the judge. Welcome to Pod meets World.
Speaker 2: A man who knows if you've been naughty, nice or toxic.
Speaker 2: The amazing Kit Wilson.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was incredible. Thank you. I love that.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy to have you here.
Speaker 1: You can I just get that again.
Speaker 2: One more time?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just not the positivity. I'll go again. Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, thank you. I'm going to ask that you
Speaker 2: take it easy on Will. But if something bothers you,
Speaker 2: please speak up. He needs to know when he's being problematic.
Speaker 1: You already.
Speaker 3: I don't moisturize, No, I gotta be honest. Strike one massive.
Speaker 3: Although the double nipple crop top.
Speaker 1: I saw the pie. That's pretty styling. You know, we
Speaker 1: got we got a lot of we got a lot
Speaker 1: of to know.
Speaker 3: For me, dogs, I don't have the body structure to
Speaker 3: pull it off, but someday I might.
Speaker 1: And that's the first shirt I'm gonna I think, put
Speaker 1: it on. It will you to get the body? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. That is a bold move.
Speaker 2: That's right. You got to reverse the order. Don't wait
Speaker 2: for the body, put the top on, get the body.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well I want to see pictures of myself and that,
Speaker 3: but I'm the only one who get to see is
Speaker 3: the thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Kit, As two people who have spent a lot
Speaker 2: of time on sitcom sets, I think we can both
Speaker 2: tell when someone has great comedic timing, and you have
Speaker 2: great comedic timing. Have you always been performative? Were you
Speaker 2: a class clown?
Speaker 1: Ooh that is an interesting question. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: thank you, I think, well just to part, just to
Speaker 1: say good things at the sitcom. What an art form? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's so many growing up being English watching
Speaker 1: the American ones, but we've obviously got our own English
Speaker 1: ones that maybe didn't make it over. What a fantastic world.
Speaker 1: Ye'll just say that. Yes, I was real shy when
Speaker 1: I was when I was growing up, really shy, really
Speaker 1: quite introverted. But I do always think I had like
Speaker 1: something in me that was kind of a bit class
Speaker 1: clowney or a bit that wanted a bit of a spotlight.
Speaker 1: And I think when I was in like a safe
Speaker 1: space of like a best friend or like a smaller
Speaker 1: friend within the classroom, I would be a bit more like,
Speaker 1: you know, speak up and make a comment. And it
Speaker 1: was quite funny. I was always too scared to kind
Speaker 1: of be the class clown. Yeah, too much fear.
Speaker 3: Okay, Wait, I have to ask because you're talking about
Speaker 3: British sitcoms, which is some of my favorites. So were
Speaker 3: you more an American sitcom fan or a British sitcom fan?
Speaker 1: American? Okay, Yeah, I really was. I had a massive
Speaker 1: phase when I first discovered the US Office they were
Speaker 1: at maybe season four, okay, and then I was just
Speaker 1: all in Parks and rec thirty Rock maybe the most underrated.
Speaker 1: I had a real big phase. But two of my
Speaker 1: favorite sitcoms are English in between US, Gavin and Stacy.
Speaker 1: Gavin and Stacey was one of my favorites. I think
Speaker 1: Gavin and Stacey for me every episode ten out of ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with quality wise, do you know Gavin Stacy?
Speaker 3: It was a Welsh sitcom and it was just phenomenally.
Speaker 2: What's the story, Like, what's the it's about.
Speaker 3: It's a kind of a it's a ram commie kind
Speaker 3: of sitcom with the best friend and all that stuff
Speaker 3: about Gavin and Stacey and what's his name? Late night
Speaker 3: host James James Gordon started on like that was like
Speaker 3: one of his big breaks. It's really great.
Speaker 1: It's really good, and they really nailed the kind of
Speaker 1: subtle intricities of just the culture, you know, the really
Speaker 1: small things, and I think that's what makes it so
Speaker 1: funny as well. Great show.
Speaker 3: Did you ever go to old school with like the
Speaker 3: young ones and faulty towers and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: No, my my dad was watching them, so they'll be
Speaker 1: on there, but I think you are. That's me, thank
Speaker 1: you for my granddad. My dad was too young. They
Speaker 1: were always on and like only fools and horses for example, Uh, Mash,
Speaker 1: I remember, Actually I love it. Favorite shoe of all time,
Speaker 1: number one, number one of all time. Here we go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't remember them being on.
Speaker 2: Bonding with his dad now? Exactly, Papa, I love Mash
Speaker 2: Papa on.
Speaker 1: The television device exactly. Great, were already best friend.
Speaker 2: Growing up? Did you always like funny Wrestlers. Was William
Speaker 2: Regal ever an inspiration?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I was to the other day,
Speaker 1: William Regal? I love him, He's done so much for me.
Speaker 1: But I didn't like him. No, no, I didn't like him.
Speaker 1: And I think because when I fully wrestling was quite
Speaker 1: hard to get on the TV for me, and then
Speaker 1: I eventually found it on the internet and I'd be
Speaker 1: on the WE dot com website every day and I'd
Speaker 1: be watching rending clips on YouTube. I think when I
Speaker 1: got William Regal like full time watching weekly, he was
Speaker 1: just a villain. He'd lost the funniness. I was in
Speaker 1: the wrong stretch. So I didn't like him.
Speaker 3: How old were you when you were watching those clips
Speaker 3: and really finding WWE?
Speaker 1: So I think I was watching, you know, from the
Speaker 1: age of like five with my brother and we were
Speaker 1: just talking and it would randomly be on like a
Speaker 1: Saturday night or Saturday morning on the TV. But I
Speaker 1: think we're too young to figure out like what channel
Speaker 1: is and tune regularly, so we'd be in and out.
Speaker 1: We'd watch bits. I faintly, faintly remember the Booker t
Speaker 1: Supermarket brawl. Oh yeah, But then it would have been
Speaker 1: about two thousand and six or maybe seven, when like
Speaker 1: I got it weekly weekly, and I was watching everything
Speaker 1: I could, So it was just on the rise of
Speaker 1: like John Cena. Yeah, I mean we were because we were.
Speaker 3: Just having a conversation with all the people that we've interviewed.
Speaker 3: It that one of the things that ties you all together,
Speaker 3: it seems to is this. Nobody found this in their twenties.
Speaker 3: This is something that as a kid, this was just
Speaker 3: a lifestyle and there's something you saw and went that I.
Speaker 1: Need, I need to do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so did you know right away that this
Speaker 3: was the world you had to be a part of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just something just something did click, you know. It
Speaker 1: was you know, you're a little boy, you love like
Speaker 1: kind of like fighting, you do. Like I was watching
Speaker 1: anything that had fighting in was I was drawn to,
Speaker 1: you know, teenage mutants, turtles, other stuff that's fighting. But
Speaker 1: then there was something about WWE that was just it
Speaker 1: had it all. It was entertainment, you know. I liked
Speaker 1: the guys that could go. But there was there was
Speaker 1: something always drawing me to John Cena. There was something
Speaker 1: so infatuated, infactuating about Kine or the Undertaker. So there
Speaker 1: always was something drawing, and then you get older, your
Speaker 1: friends fall out of it. Yeah, and then suddenly you're eighteen,
Speaker 1: you're the only one that likes wrestling still, and you think, well,
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to quit my life to this.
Speaker 1: It's the only thing I've consistently liked in my life was.
Speaker 3: The lifestyle of a wrestler. Something you were prepared for me, Like,
Speaker 3: did you have any idea what it was going to
Speaker 3: actually be like to get into the world or was
Speaker 3: it something where we were like, oh my god, this
Speaker 3: I no one could prepare you for what's coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think a little bit of both. Again, being
Speaker 1: a massive fan, I would listen to the podcast and
Speaker 1: watch the interview, so I I kind of knew to
Speaker 1: a certain extent. And then, especially signing a WE contract,
Speaker 1: you kind of feel like you know what you're getting
Speaker 1: in for. You know, if it all works out in
Speaker 1: best case scenario, you're kind of giving a lot of
Speaker 1: your life to that. I was prepared for that, but
Speaker 1: there's so many other little tiny bits that you're not
Speaker 1: prepared for. Elton, for example, tag team partner miss he
Speaker 1: really struggles with the travel. Okay that can I can
Speaker 1: really get to him? You know? He just had a
Speaker 1: newborn baby, so that's going to be a big part
Speaker 1: of it, right, yeah, But he was always for straight
Speaker 1: and then a plane delay happens, another plane die happens.
Speaker 1: It just gets to and rattles him and as it
Speaker 1: would anyone. But I don't know. For whatever reason, I've
Speaker 1: managed to expect it. I know what's going to happen
Speaker 1: is going to happen, right, I'm kind of I'm kind
Speaker 1: of cruising. I'm yeah, yeah, And it's a dream to
Speaker 1: have this job. So you know, I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 2: You and Elton have been wrestling together since twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: and you like back in the UK. How did you
Speaker 2: two meet?
Speaker 1: Do you know what? I went to a little wrestling
Speaker 1: school in Kent. He went to a little wrestling school
Speaker 1: in Essex. We maybe like an hour apart, but we
Speaker 1: had friends from the school that went to both of them,
Speaker 1: and they'd always say, here's this guy at this other
Speaker 1: school who looks just like you, moves just like you,
Speaker 1: wrestlers just like you, but he's blonde. And then he
Speaker 1: would tell he would tell me that he would exactly
Speaker 1: the same thing, but they'd say, it's just a brunette guy.
Speaker 1: A brunette and we had different hair at the time.
Speaker 1: We had short, short, back in size, like spiky hair.
Speaker 1: And then we eventually met wib Be six months later
Speaker 1: and we kind of did the like the yeah kind
Speaker 1: of the point, and then we did we wrestled exactly
Speaker 1: the same. Well, we actually wrestled just like one of
Speaker 1: our favorites at the time, Sammy Zain. We both just
Speaker 1: did Samy Zay's mooseets. That was another thing to bond us.
Speaker 1: You know, we just kept on finding reasons to bond
Speaker 1: and we always have little stories. We jump back on
Speaker 1: moments where we knew like our friendship like increased. It
Speaker 1: was one moment in particular where we both told each
Speaker 1: other that Ross was our favorite friends character, great character,
Speaker 1: and we felt like no one else like Ross Ross
Speaker 1: is the worst. And from that moment we were kind
Speaker 1: of like, I think this is working. We're going to
Speaker 1: be fine. We're going to be fine.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 2: I know you've had a few names together, Greased, Lightning,
Speaker 2: the Collective, and then you landed on Pretty Deadly. Tell
Speaker 2: us about that process. How do tag teams pick a
Speaker 2: name and where did pretty Deadly come from?
Speaker 1: Well, so there's a great English photographer called Robin as
Speaker 1: Beyond Gorilla. He does some great work. We were actually
Speaker 1: trying a car ride with him and we were discussing
Speaker 1: these names. We've gone for a few. As you said,
Speaker 1: Grease Lightning was our very first name because I started
Speaker 1: off with a greece esque character because I love Greece.
Speaker 1: Greese is great, one of the best films ever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he was called Lightning Lewis at the time,
Speaker 1: so we were Grease Lightning. But we were kind of
Speaker 1: developing along things start to click. We both like Ross Geller,
Speaker 1: you know, magic is in the air, and we're trying
Speaker 1: to think of a name, and we're throwing ideas out.
Speaker 1: I really liked the idea of having a kind of
Speaker 1: like a band name. I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: band names sometimes don't make sense, but that's what that's
Speaker 1: what works. It feels a bit like rock and roll,
Speaker 1: you know. I like the idea of maybe having just numbers.
Speaker 1: You know, all of my favorite bands is the nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy five. I thought maybe there's something there. But then
Speaker 1: we realized what we wanted was to come and work
Speaker 1: for the WWE, So we kind of wanted a very
Speaker 1: simple WWE esque name Robin the photographer. We're on the
Speaker 1: car journey pretty deadly because you're pretty and you're deadly.
Speaker 1: I said, thank you, Robin, I'll take I'll take that.
Speaker 1: And it just it just felt like it fit. It
Speaker 1: really does, you know. It kind of felt like it
Speaker 1: describes our characters in a simple form but enough to
Speaker 1: kind of hopefully get the point across. It Just it
Speaker 1: just kind of felt right, and it kind of lingered.
Speaker 1: It lingered, and then yeah, we chose the name. That's great. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I have to ask, was Sandy dead the whole time?
Speaker 4: Mmmm?
Speaker 1: It's tough, right, It's a hard one because you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Well, I was gonna say my head,
Speaker 1: my head one I would say no, okay, I'll say no,
Speaker 1: I'll say she's living because I want that girl to live. Okay.
Speaker 1: So there's so the movie Grease.
Speaker 3: You know, in the beginning, she she he saves her
Speaker 3: from drowning, right, and then at the end they fly
Speaker 3: off together in the car and the internet is actually
Speaker 3: saying what happened is she actually died at the beginning,
Speaker 3: and it's her going into heaven. The entire thing is
Speaker 3: is her getting into heaven. And then they fly off it.
Speaker 3: So the question for Grease fans is, was Sandy dead
Speaker 3: the entire movie here?
Speaker 1: What would you say now knowing alive?
Speaker 2: Or because it does make the flying in a car or.
Speaker 1: Flying stood out to me as a child I watched
Speaker 1: on DVD over and over. Yeah, that bit was always
Speaker 1: a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, wait, why I think she died at
Speaker 3: the beginning, I vote first, she said at the piece.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't be the tie breaker, but if I
Speaker 2: had to, I would say I think she was dead.
Speaker 1: You have to watch again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, watch again.
Speaker 3: And when you watch that with with that in your head,
Speaker 3: it kind of changes how you watch the movie.
Speaker 4: It's really weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, huh, I've never heard that. Many say that the
Speaker 2: best wrestlers are just people being themselves but turned up
Speaker 2: to eleven. Yeah, yeah, far off is Kit Wilson from
Speaker 2: your real personality.
Speaker 1: I think we're pretty close ever being honest, and I
Speaker 1: was actually, again, it's Wrestlmating weekend. We're talking a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm talking a bit too much, maybe, And
Speaker 1: I came to the realization that I think pretty deadly
Speaker 1: was an exaggeration. I always thought it was exageration of us,
Speaker 1: but I think pretty deadly was an exaggeration of our friendship,
Speaker 1: our relationship. You know, when we got together, we're just
Speaker 1: kind of giddy and excited in jokey and I think
Speaker 1: you exaggerated that and got that on TV in the
Speaker 1: obnoxious way. Right. So then this doing Kit Wilson a
Speaker 1: man against toxic masculinity. Yeah, there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: that sit very very true to me. In England, sports
Speaker 1: aren't really as big as they are in America. You know,
Speaker 1: we have football, we have soccer, but we don't have
Speaker 1: it's not all tied to the colleges. It's not this
Speaker 1: massive thing. So sports kind of flew by me. I
Speaker 1: wasn't into sports at all, so wrestling was the only
Speaker 1: thing I had. So for that and for many other reasons,
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up very jockey or I didn't grow
Speaker 1: up very typically masculine in a way, you know, And
Speaker 1: then I found myself really enjoying a lot of things
Speaker 1: that leaned the other way. And then I guess, without
Speaker 1: realizing it, that's when this kind of character. When I
Speaker 1: was pitching ideas and they liked this one. Thank god
Speaker 1: they like this one, because this one was truest to
Speaker 1: me right, and now I find myself pushing, climbing the company,
Speaker 1: you know, shooting off a trajectory. It feels real to me,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like I'm in this and for
Speaker 1: the for the first time, I couldn't feel more real
Speaker 1: within both the TV show and the behind the scenes
Speaker 1: and everything that's going on, I'm kind of pushing for it.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of truth within the things that I say.
Speaker 3: Is it was it a big transition from wrestling as
Speaker 3: a tag team partner for so long to being solo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was terrifying, really really scary because we're, you know,
Speaker 1: being real life best friends. You lose your support, you
Speaker 1: lose your emotional support, blanket your best friend. And I
Speaker 1: think with that, you know, it was such a big
Speaker 1: change to go into too singles competition. But I think
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much we we leaned on each
Speaker 1: other in a good way and somewhat of a bad
Speaker 1: way as well, you know, not not a terrible way,
Speaker 1: but just in the sense that again it was it
Speaker 1: was a safety thing. So maybe we didn't push ourselves
Speaker 1: in certain areas where now I have no choice because
Speaker 1: I'm on my own. So it was really scary, It
Speaker 1: really was. It felt like the first day of school,
Speaker 1: those first couple of ones. Sure, but now I'm in
Speaker 1: it and I'm fighting for myself and I'm fighting for him,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of I'm ready and I'm switched on.
Speaker 1: But those first few months, those first few matches, even
Speaker 1: wrestling wise, you can't tag out right, you're out of breath.
Speaker 1: You need a little second. You can tag out now
Speaker 1: I'm just in it. Yes, it's all on me. So yeah,
Speaker 1: big kind of differences. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 3: And did you We always talked about how when we
Speaker 3: work together for seven years, you develop where it's a
Speaker 3: language where you don't have to say anything and you
Speaker 3: know exactly what the other person is going to do.
Speaker 1: Was were you ever shocked or was it just you
Speaker 1: guys knew each other.
Speaker 3: You knew when one was going to zig, the other
Speaker 3: was going to zag, and you just knew what was
Speaker 3: going to happen every time.
Speaker 1: That was it? Yeah, exactly, isaacd and he loved to zag. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You just again, you spend so much time together, you
Speaker 1: start morphing into each other the language you use, and
Speaker 1: you know, our big catchphrase at the time was yes, boy,
Speaker 1: that just started off as a thing we'd say to
Speaker 1: each other. We just hype each other up before matches
Speaker 1: or in real life situations that weren't eything to do
Speaker 1: with wrestling. We'd be like, yes boy, yes boy. It
Speaker 1: just became like yeah, this magnetic thing that hyped us up,
Speaker 1: and then it just kind of bled into the television show.
Speaker 1: And I think that's part of those relationships. You know,
Speaker 1: good things come.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about your theme song,
Speaker 2: Man Up. It is an absolute bop and the WWE
Speaker 2: universe loves it just as much as I do. How
Speaker 2: did that come together?
Speaker 1: Well, again, I go singles. You know, I'm crying, I'm scared,
Speaker 1: I'm lonely. That's not what to do. But I started
Speaker 1: realizing I need to do something, so I'm pushing. I'm
Speaker 1: pushing to kind of get matches on the main event
Speaker 1: TV show, which is kind of we filmed before SmackDown,
Speaker 1: and I just thought, I'm going to try a lot
Speaker 1: of things here character wise, I'm going to try and
Speaker 1: explore myself. And then I'm coming out to the pretty
Speaker 1: deadly tag team theme song, which doesn't feel right at all.
Speaker 1: It just kind of feels foreign and it doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like it's portraying the message to the audience either. So
Speaker 1: then I start asking for a new theme song. Then
Speaker 1: I get in contact with the music guy and he says,
Speaker 1: what would you like? He calls me and I say,
Speaker 1: can I send you a detailed email? And you never
Speaker 1: really know how much detail they want, but I just
Speaker 1: gave them as much detail as possible. So I was
Speaker 1: giving song references. I was time stamping. I knew I
Speaker 1: wanted like a kind of signature intro. It's quite big
Speaker 1: and a lot of in a lot of popular theme songs,
Speaker 1: you get like a popular intro, so I knew I
Speaker 1: wanted that. And it's a great Charlie XCX song called
Speaker 1: Guest with Billie Eilish that has a fantastic opening, so
Speaker 1: I used that as inspiration and that's kind of got
Speaker 1: the iconic intro that I have now. So it was
Speaker 1: just kind of building. I put my ideas across, they
Speaker 1: came back, I went back, they came back, back and forth,
Speaker 1: back and forth, and we kind of ended up with
Speaker 1: what we got and it's fantastic cool. I couldn't be happier. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really feel the energy now and I really feel
Speaker 1: like it portrays what I'm trying to be to an audience,
Speaker 1: or at least the vibe.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really quite a decision for a wrestler to
Speaker 2: pick like a bubblegum pop song like for an entrance,
Speaker 2: and it has really paid off. What music do you
Speaker 2: listen to or in general in your downtime? What are
Speaker 2: you listening to?
Speaker 1: I mean, I like a lot of English singer songwriters,
Speaker 1: but I like a lot of pop, like a lot
Speaker 1: of girly pop. Audrey Hobert at the moment, her album
Speaker 1: Who Is the Clown fantastic album. It's so upbeat, it's
Speaker 1: so poppy. There's just a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Wet Leg is an English band against Charlie XCX. There's
Speaker 1: just a lot of their vibrant girl pop that I
Speaker 1: think I kind of have a good time listening to,
Speaker 1: and I felt like it represents me at the moment.
Speaker 1: And again with the toxic masculinity thing me on TV,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm trying to play off a lot
Speaker 1: of my male counterparts. They're all trying to act like
Speaker 1: the big tough guy. They've got a lot of kind
Speaker 1: of tough music, so I feel like I'm the opposite
Speaker 1: of that, and I want to be the epitome of
Speaker 1: the opposite of that. So coming out to this kind
Speaker 1: of girly music, maybe dressing in pink, maybe I wear
Speaker 1: pearls instead of their ice out chains, and I will
Speaker 1: beat them doing it and show that I'm more of
Speaker 1: a man doing it that way than they think that
Speaker 1: they are because they have some kind of perception on
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm trying to make a point here.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to prove a point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where did the catchphrase you are toxic? Come from?
Speaker 1: Having love to ask the toxic men? You know, I
Speaker 1: just see to any of them. Yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: comes from a lot of conversations with certain people, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it inside my head and I'm thinking, damn,
Speaker 1: how have you just said that out loud? How have
Speaker 1: you just said that to another person? And then fortunately
Speaker 1: this character is a little bit an outlet where I
Speaker 1: can maybe on TV tell a few people off, call
Speaker 1: them out for being toxic. So watch yourself. Yeah I'm good,
Speaker 1: but yeah, just everyone a lot of toxic masculinity and
Speaker 1: I was just getting anger and anger at least on
Speaker 1: the show. So you are toxic? Yeah, just kind of
Speaker 1: came out of me, and it kind of it felt
Speaker 1: like it clicked with the with the audience. You know,
Speaker 1: I say toxic and I kind of hear a little echo, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Is.
Speaker 2: That when you knew it was working, Like the first
Speaker 2: time you heard the audience echo it back to you? Like,
Speaker 2: when did you know we've got something?
Speaker 1: There was kind of moments like that. And another thing
Speaker 1: was just even in the I was talking earlier doing
Speaker 1: those matches and those shows before kind of getting back
Speaker 1: on SmackDown properly doing them and then coming back in
Speaker 1: a lot of the locker room kind of giving me
Speaker 1: feedback and saying that bit was really cool or maybe
Speaker 1: there was something there. You know, there's a few people
Speaker 1: I would say, help me out. I don't out them
Speaker 1: for me such good people. You know, yeah that's fair
Speaker 1: because they are toxic, but you know, maybe there's some
Speaker 1: good in them. But yeah, just the feedback from the fans,
Speaker 1: those little things where you hear catchphrase get repeated, and
Speaker 1: just from peers kind of saying that there was something there.
Speaker 1: Maybe try and do that next week. So the next
Speaker 1: week I kind of went down that avenue and we've
Speaker 1: got something good.
Speaker 2: What has been what is working with jelly Roll bin
Speaker 2: like he is like the perfect toxic foil for you,
Speaker 2: and he seems very happy to be there and to
Speaker 2: be putting in the work. So what's it been like
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: I got mixed emotions for jelly Roll, let me say that,
Speaker 1: I think, and at this point I spent some good
Speaker 1: time with him. I think I could tell you some
Speaker 1: things about him that would make you like him. I
Speaker 1: think in a different life there's some things about him
Speaker 1: that would make me like him. However, this man is toxic.
Speaker 1: This man disgusts me. Grammy Award winning artist superstar. We
Speaker 1: never really got country music too much in England, but
Speaker 1: then come into this country. I kind of again. I
Speaker 1: love music, so I'm listening to all sorts. So I
Speaker 1: liked jelly Roll yeah before he came to SmackDown. It's
Speaker 1: the road to WrestleMania. I'm an up and coming superstar.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're taking my spot. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like you're kind of getting in my way. So I
Speaker 1: confront him. I give him some beautiful poetry. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a reflective guy. I'm on my journals, you know,
Speaker 1: give him some. He comes back with yo mummut jokes toxic, toxic, toxic.
Speaker 1: I don't like him, but to your point, the man
Speaker 1: loves wrestling, so he's putting in the effort. You know,
Speaker 1: he wants to be here, and he wants to be
Speaker 1: here for the right reason. So I commend him for
Speaker 1: the heart that he puts into it, cause I think
Speaker 1: that's a big part of being a w superstars. You
Speaker 1: love this, Yeah, you know, you've always loved this, so
Speaker 1: when you're out there, I think that shines through. So
Speaker 1: I'll give him points for that, but I take him
Speaker 1: all away for a lot of other reasons.
Speaker 2: And for you and Dan Housen to be on this
Speaker 2: kind of meteoric rise together at the same time, What
Speaker 2: has that been like? Dan Housen's first win was against Kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's lovely to be given these big, these big
Speaker 1: guys that first big wins. You know, it's nice to
Speaker 1: be there for that moment. In a sense, Dan Housen,
Speaker 1: I don't know what is he like the w W mascot. Now,
Speaker 1: I feel like he's he's doing fantastic because he cursed
Speaker 1: me when he's cursed me too. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean he's taking over. He's doing fantastically. I like to
Speaker 1: think I'm on a similar trajectory. It's going great again.
Speaker 1: I just don't know. If he gets in my business,
Speaker 1: that's where that's when the water starts muddying for me,
Speaker 1: you know, when he gets in my way. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like him. I like him at a distance exactly.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: That's fair. I think this is.
Speaker 2: Your first WrestleMania weekend without Elton. Is it bittersweet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is bittersweet, I think. And last year, amongst
Speaker 1: the business, we managed to actually get out and see
Speaker 1: a lot of shows together and again being best friends
Speaker 1: in real life. It's just nice to have those moments.
Speaker 1: So I don't get those moments this week, you know.
Speaker 1: And there's again, there's little it's the in betweens, you know,
Speaker 1: it's the little bus rides or the airport rides where
Speaker 1: you have those nice moments together. So, yes, it's hard
Speaker 1: without him. But again I'm on my own. But my
Speaker 1: wife's here. That's cool that I've got a partner. That's good.
Speaker 1: You got a partner here with you. Yeah, exactly. And
Speaker 1: they're both I call them both my attractive blondes. And
Speaker 1: you said we just had a child. Yeah, that one's
Speaker 1: got a little baby boy or a girl little girl? Okay,
Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, if it was a boy,
Speaker 1: would you help the child to be raised?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: You bet I would. Okay, yeah, I would making sure
Speaker 1: that the uncle's there would help out. Well, we just
Speaker 1: got I just you know, I'm a man and I
Speaker 1: love men, but I think we need to raise our game.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people lacking, a lot of boys
Speaker 1: in a man's world. I can say that some boys
Speaker 1: need to you know, come into themselves as adults.
Speaker 2: I can see that for sure. Are you looking forward
Speaker 2: to Elton coming back or are you now like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: I'm just getting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it is funny. I can't wait for
Speaker 1: him to get back, you know. And there's an unfortunately
Speaker 1: big question mark if you know, unfortunate's how bad the
Speaker 1: injury is. But I cannot wait for him to get back.
Speaker 1: I think the asterisk in it now is, Yeah, things
Speaker 1: are different. I've kind of I took a left turn
Speaker 1: and it's kind of gone fantastically, which I'm really enjoying,
Speaker 1: and he's happy for me, and we've discussed it. But
Speaker 1: I think the fun part is if pretty Deadly does return,
Speaker 1: it's something completely new. I don't fully know what that
Speaker 1: new is, but that's really exciting. So when it comes
Speaker 1: we'll find out. Really, I don't know what it could be.
Speaker 3: If he comes back and tries to stand in the
Speaker 3: way of your rise, is he toxic?
Speaker 1: Let me say this, how the two of us? I
Speaker 1: do classic more toxic than me?
Speaker 2: Love the two?
Speaker 1: Wow? So I mean, could something happened? We're next thing?
Speaker 1: You know, you're facing off against each other. Well, you
Speaker 1: just never know.
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
Speaker 1: We've done it before in the past, though, right, you
Speaker 1: know we've we've been there before before coming together. We
Speaker 1: had a few a few times in the ring against
Speaker 1: each other. You know, I don't know what does an
Speaker 1: injury do to a man? Right, his head might be spiraling.
Speaker 2: You're right, you never know. Okay, before we let you go,
Speaker 2: I want to play a little game. I'm going to
Speaker 2: give you some random possible red flags you could run
Speaker 2: into when dating someone new. You tell us if it's fine,
Speaker 2: not a problem, or if they are toxic?
Speaker 1: All right, love it, I love it.
Speaker 2: Whatever you decide, we stick by it. It becomes the law.
Speaker 2: We promise the law one the only text with voice memos.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, if it's only, I'll say toxic toxic.
Speaker 3: Yeah wait wait wait wait oh, sometimes the mirror gets
Speaker 3: held up.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're just going to be saying ship
Speaker 1: that I do.
Speaker 3: Are you like by pressing the button and then just okay,
Speaker 3: but that's so much easier.
Speaker 2: No, no, no voice memos, meaning I only get your audio,
Speaker 2: not voice to text.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, okay, voice memos okay, and let me say this,
Speaker 3: I'll do both.
Speaker 1: But you said only.
Speaker 2: Only only text with voice memois. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Different f.
Speaker 2: People who FaceTime in public on speaker, Oh, toxic, toxic
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Someone who starts sentences with no offense.
Speaker 1: But no offense but toxic.
Speaker 2: People who clap when a plane lands.
Speaker 1: Do you know what? It's such a European thing. Though
Speaker 1: it happens a lot, happens a lot, impresses me every time.
Speaker 1: I will say not toxic. Each to their own great,
Speaker 1: but why could come on because you're on the ground.
Speaker 2: They say, I'm not hungry, but then eat your fries?
Speaker 1: Oh toxic, toxic, toxic, Because I don't mind buying two fries.
Speaker 1: I would get you enough fry. I get fries for the.
Speaker 2: Table, totally exactly. Yeah, I don't mind sharing. I just
Speaker 2: want to make sure we have enough to share. Very generous.
Speaker 3: Don't tell me you don't want any exactly and eat
Speaker 3: my ship correct exactly.
Speaker 2: What about doesn't return his or her shopping cart?
Speaker 1: Oh, big, big, big time toxic. Okay, I need some
Speaker 1: I need people to tell me what they're doing with
Speaker 1: that one. Agreed, I know, I'm just just do it.
Speaker 2: Here's the one thing, you know? What can I put
Speaker 2: a caveat on that? When you have kids, you have
Speaker 2: to put them in the car seat. Then, depending on
Speaker 2: where I've parked my car and where the car cart
Speaker 2: return is, I have to leave my kids in the
Speaker 2: car alone for that length of time. So I'll say,
Speaker 2: I agree with you. It's the law. It's toxic unless
Speaker 2: you have small children, in which case do whatever you
Speaker 2: need to do.
Speaker 1: I'm right with you. I mean I can't speak on parenthood.
Speaker 1: And apparently there's different rules for different people. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that fair enough? Yeah, you touching? No? No, let me.
Speaker 3: Trying to protect her children to bring the cart back
Speaker 3: and put the other one in.
Speaker 1: That's what you do.
Speaker 2: You're right, the twelve month old who can't walk yet, or.
Speaker 1: The nine months in the car you have the three
Speaker 1: year old return the car. Yeah thing in the world.
Speaker 2: Anyone who calls target targe.
Speaker 1: Oh toxic, but light a light fun? Toxic? Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: diet toxic, Yeah, toxish. Maybe how is toxic any different than.
Speaker 2: They have a podcast?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm on here for it, Green Flak.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kit, Thank you so much for being here
Speaker 2: with us, having so much fun. We absolutely adore you.
Speaker 2: Uh can't wait to see what happens this weekends. I
Speaker 2: know it's WrestleMania weekend, so we're we're looking forward to
Speaker 2: some hopefully some great surprises, some real good times, and
Speaker 2: we will be cheering you on.
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you for having me and I look forward
Speaker 1: to coming back. Yes, definitely happening.
Speaker 2: We've manifested it.
Speaker 1: There we go. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you so much.
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