Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: If you've been listening to this show for a while,
Speaker 1: you know that I love to ask guests to provide
Speaker 1: a life improving tip. I really enjoyed compiling these. I
Speaker 1: think that the tip I hear about most often that
Speaker 1: people have implemented in their own lives is from my
Speaker 1: very first episode. My guest was my fantastic friend Buck Sexton,
Speaker 1: and he said to read before bed. Now, obviously that's
Speaker 1: not rocket science, right you read before bed, you feel better.
Speaker 1: You don't stare at your phone. We all know that
Speaker 1: staring at our devices right before trying to get RESTful
Speaker 1: sleep is a recipe for tossing and turning all night.
Speaker 1: But sometimes we just need to hear people give us
Speaker 1: that obvious advice. Buck's advice is something that I've implemented myself.
Speaker 1: I try to read fiction specific before bed, and I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not perfect. Do I find myself scrolling on Instagram
Speaker 1: reels before bed some nights of the week, of course
Speaker 1: I do. But the nights that I don't, the nights
Speaker 1: that I follow the advice to unplug before bed, are
Speaker 1: my best nights of sleep. And it's helpful. So the
Speaker 1: advice doesn't have to be astonishing or startling or really unique.
Speaker 1: It can just be something that you need to hear.
Speaker 1: I asked my listeners and followers on Twitter to submit
Speaker 1: their own tips for living a better life. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to keep them kind of small and easy, like the
Speaker 1: reading before bed one, and not big pieces of advice
Speaker 1: that we all need but would be harder to implement.
Speaker 1: These are my three favorites from this week, but keep
Speaker 1: them coming. Email Carolmarkowitz Show at gmail dot com, or
Speaker 1: tweet me at Carol on x New Twitter, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it. I'll read some responses on the
Speaker 1: show and future episodes, so tune in. The number one
Speaker 1: thing that came up again and again is to get
Speaker 1: off your phone. I've talked about this one here. I
Speaker 1: understand it's a challenge, but we all know how much
Speaker 1: better off we would be if we used our phones less.
Speaker 1: I've talked about how I take breaks for vacation, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a serious attempt to just be
Speaker 1: on my phone less. I get that it's really tough,
Speaker 1: and even right now, I'm thinking about all the things
Speaker 1: that I need to get done on the Internet, which
Speaker 1: would require me using my laptop or my phone. But
Speaker 1: it's necessary to cut back, and I know it, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to stop using it for like entertainment when
Speaker 1: I wait on a line or I'm doing something that
Speaker 1: I don't want to be doing. Number two is similar
Speaker 1: but a little different. Somebody wrote, remember that social media
Speaker 1: is not real life. Go out and see the world,
Speaker 1: talk to people, live life in person. I talk about
Speaker 1: this a lot on here. I think it gets very
Speaker 1: easy to live your life online, especially if you work
Speaker 1: from home. Challenge yourself to have one conversation in real
Speaker 1: life this week. And I don't just mean with your
Speaker 1: spouse or with your kids. I'll say a conversation has
Speaker 1: to be three sentences long, so it can't just be
Speaker 1: nice weather we're having with your neighbor and that's it.
Speaker 1: Connect with people in real life. Number three is compliment
Speaker 1: one person a day. Be the kind of person who
Speaker 1: says nice things to others. It'll make you feel better
Speaker 1: about yourself too, I promise. Coming up next and interview
Speaker 1: with Javier David join us after the break.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Carol Marcowitch Show on iHeartRadio. My
Speaker 2: guest today is Javier David Javier is managing editor for
Speaker 2: Business and Markets at Axios. He oversees the Markets, Macro
Speaker 2: and Closer newsletters and is an unrepentant Brooklyn Night, which
Speaker 2: is how we met when I was one two. Hi Javier,
Speaker 2: so great to have you on.
Speaker 3: Hey, good morning.
Speaker 2: So I know very little about finance or financial markets,
Speaker 2: but you're now actually the third financial journalists I've had on,
Speaker 2: which just means I'm friends with a lot of financial journalists.
Speaker 2: The other two were John Carney and Mitch Rochelle from
Speaker 2: Breitbart and Box Business. But it's interesting finance and I
Speaker 2: love to learn. So where do you see the economy going?
Speaker 2: You know, in a sort of playing terms for people
Speaker 2: who don't know a lot about what's going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah. John Carney incidentally is one of my former colleagues
Speaker 3: who work together at NBC. A great guy, super smart,
Speaker 3: huge amount of respect for them. Hi John, if you're listening,
Speaker 3: But yeah, sure he's listening. He is. I see him
Speaker 3: all the time on Twitter, but not in person. But
Speaker 3: all that said, yeah, the economy in twenty twenty four
Speaker 3: kind of puzzled, you know, against all odds. And I
Speaker 3: know this is a sort of controversial thing to say.
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be, but you know, the economy, the US
Speaker 3: economy is really in a lot of respects outperformed every
Speaker 3: other major and we're in an election year, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's sort of, uh, the economy becomes something of a
Speaker 3: ror shark test where if you're you know, whether you're
Speaker 3: a Democrat or Republican, and all kind of is skewed
Speaker 3: based on kind of a or view through a partisan lens.
Speaker 3: And that's unfortunate because you know, you have a jobs
Speaker 3: market that is really really strong after a very long
Speaker 3: period where workers wages were stagnant. People are earning more,
Speaker 3: they're earning more or getting more from their employers. That's
Speaker 3: a good thing. You know, unemployment below four percent, that
Speaker 3: has been there's a lot of noise surrounding the state
Speaker 3: of the jobs market because we've had a tremendous amount
Speaker 3: of layoffs announcements since since at the start of the year.
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of that has been concentrated in
Speaker 3: sectors that kind of over hire during the pandemic, and
Speaker 3: that would be technology and also in the field that
Speaker 3: we're in, which is media. And if you remember I
Speaker 3: think twenty one twenty one twenty twenty two, it seemed
Speaker 3: like everybody was getting a new job somewhere right. It
Speaker 3: was kind of the Yolo economy, and everyone was like, Hey,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go you know, personal news on Twitter like that.
Speaker 3: You know, it was a really heady time to be
Speaker 3: a journalist and you after, you know, you come into
Speaker 3: this profession and you don't really believe that you're gonna
Speaker 3: make a lot of money. And people started getting good money.
Speaker 3: But now we're kind of overcorrecting for that what was
Speaker 3: in that sort of an over hiring. But all things considered,
Speaker 3: the inflation, I think that's what everyone is kind of
Speaker 3: like on the phone. That's what everyone's talking about. And
Speaker 3: why views about the economy are so to you because
Speaker 3: we are in fact paying much more for everything, and
Speaker 3: more than we've paid in a very long time, and
Speaker 3: the data suggests that we are. In fact. Inflation is slowing. Now.
Speaker 3: Slowing is a different animal altogether than falling prices, and
Speaker 3: you have a lower rate of inflation, but prices are
Speaker 3: still rising, so we kind of call it disinflation, which
Speaker 3: means that, yeah, inflation is still there. It's still president,
Speaker 3: it's still at the risk, and it's one of the
Speaker 3: reasons why the Federal Reserve won't kind of commit to
Speaker 3: cutting rates anytime this year because there is a real
Speaker 3: risk that it could pick up again. And those of
Speaker 3: us old enough to remember guys like you know, Vulgar
Speaker 3: and green Span, These guys were Federal Reserve chairmen who
Speaker 3: were committed inflation fighters that they weren't about this stuff
Speaker 3: all the time, that if you allowed inflation to get
Speaker 3: out of control, it absolutely would and it would kind
Speaker 3: of devour everything. So we're coming out of this era,
Speaker 3: or this particular juncture where prices were really, really high,
Speaker 3: but now they're starting to normalize. So again, normalizing is
Speaker 3: different than falling, which isn't a good thing either, because
Speaker 3: you don't want deflation. It's is almost that as inflation,
Speaker 3: but you want to stable prices. And managed to kind
Speaker 3: of stick the landing and hyped rates. It's broad inflation
Speaker 3: sort of under control nominally, and the growth is still there.
Speaker 3: And more importantly, anyone that needs a job can find
Speaker 3: a job, and that the data shows that it's a
Speaker 3: lot tougher than it was a year ago. But certainly
Speaker 3: people can feel confident in the fact that like this
Speaker 3: is a place, you know, the economy. Economy is in
Speaker 3: a place where people can find jobs, you can earn money,
Speaker 3: and it's you know, it's not a disaster. The economy
Speaker 3: is certainly not fallen off cliff.
Speaker 2: Where would we first see that inflation go down? Because
Speaker 2: I have not seen. I just I'm constantly amazed up
Speaker 2: prices like I, you know, I've been blessed do I,
Speaker 2: you know, really haven't had a financial downturn in the
Speaker 2: last few years that a lot of people did during
Speaker 2: the pandemic. And I am like horrified at a lot
Speaker 2: of the prices, and I just think that it makes
Speaker 2: me afraid for the future because I just don't see
Speaker 2: them going down. But you're saying that they may, So
Speaker 2: where would we feel that or see that first?
Speaker 3: So we're seeing it, we're starting to see I think
Speaker 3: people get the most triggered by grocery prices.
Speaker 2: And grocery prices I am triggered.
Speaker 3: And they're still very high. The data says that they're
Speaker 3: still rising, but at a much more normal rate. Where
Speaker 3: people are actually starting to see the sticker shop, honestly
Speaker 3: is when they go out to You remember, at one
Speaker 3: point last year, over the last year or so, it
Speaker 3: was cheaper to eat out than it was to stay
Speaker 3: at home. Any prices were so absurd. Now we're at
Speaker 3: in this particular juncture where the grocery prices are starting
Speaker 3: to level off. But again, leveling off isn't a different
Speaker 3: animal than falling still high, but like moderating. A lot
Speaker 3: of the fast food joints are have hiked prices and
Speaker 3: they're starting to see some pushback from that because people
Speaker 3: are not eating there as much. And as a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, we had a couple of fast food operators
Speaker 3: report earnings just as ye and some of them, you know,
Speaker 3: were we then expected because it's starting to get the
Speaker 3: data suggest the numbers suggested people are not necessarily inclined
Speaker 3: to just keep paying or coming out of pocket.
Speaker 2: Like my brother was telling me yesterday that McDonald's is
Speaker 2: like in collapse.
Speaker 3: And that's concerning McDonald's. McDonald's an interesting story because they
Speaker 3: really thrived during the pandemic, and you know, their whole
Speaker 3: sort of stick is the dollar menu, the cheap eats
Speaker 3: that they've got really great value for their for their
Speaker 3: you know, for what they offer. And if you're an
Speaker 3: app user, like it's even better because you kind of
Speaker 3: accumulate loyalty points, you get special deals and whatever. So
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of McDonald's and I love their
Speaker 3: app and I absolutely love their coffee. But in terms
Speaker 3: of crisis, everyone is starting to realize that this isn't
Speaker 3: just a one way bet. You can't just sort of
Speaker 3: pass on costs, pass on costs, and the real reason
Speaker 3: that we have to sort of be fair. The real
Speaker 3: reason why we're seeing such sort of price inflation is
Speaker 3: because it costs a lot of these companies a lot
Speaker 3: more to do business, and so their inputs like f loower, eggs,
Speaker 3: all of the things that are used to make a meal. Yeah,
Speaker 3: prices of skyprocketed. So at some point there's a willingness
Speaker 3: for the company to eat some of those costs. But
Speaker 3: at some point it's like, it's costing me a lot
Speaker 3: to put all of this together, and I'm going to
Speaker 3: start passing it out to consumer.
Speaker 2: Right, will millennials ever be able to buy a house
Speaker 2: or are they just going to be eating avocado toasts
Speaker 2: in their in their rentals for the rest of their lives?
Speaker 3: Yes, you know this is there's a strain of thought
Speaker 3: that says, you know, you shouldn't deprive and I've seen
Speaker 3: this a lot more recently, and I'm up to minds
Speaker 3: like don't deprive yourself of things that make you feel good.
Speaker 2: That's been my philosophy. Are my husband doesn't love that,
Speaker 2: but yeah, that's that's how I live.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, like, I think we all sort
Speaker 3: of grew up with this idea that you know, especially
Speaker 3: for those of us a certain generation, like you had
Speaker 3: to save every day, wasn't you know, you can treat
Speaker 3: yourself and like maybe that's every week or once a
Speaker 3: week or once every two weeks or whatever, but there
Speaker 3: was a limit and that you kind of had to
Speaker 3: impose the differenscipline. You had to live within a budget. Nowadays,
Speaker 3: I think, primarily because of the proliferation of social media
Speaker 3: and things like that, there's a lot of i don't know,
Speaker 3: for lack of a better, certain period pressure. People feel
Speaker 3: obligated fomo or you know that. They call it lifestyle cre.
Speaker 2: People and hey, the US government does it, so whatever.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's a whole lot of conversation.
Speaker 2: But hey, buy all the Starbucks treats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so the idea people are making more money
Speaker 3: in the data suggests they are. Wages were going up.
Speaker 3: So that entails people looking and saying, hey, I'm making
Speaker 3: a little bit more money, why don't I You know,
Speaker 3: I couldn't afford that, you know, fifty dollars caviar lunch before,
Speaker 3: but now I can. I can afford to go to
Speaker 3: Vail for vacation, I can afford to do all of
Speaker 3: these other things. And that's when it starts to catch
Speaker 3: up with you. So there's got to be, you know,
Speaker 3: a balance, like if you buy in Buying a house
Speaker 3: is a real responsibility. It's a very expensive proposition, and
Speaker 3: I think people aren't don't really fully prepare themselves for
Speaker 3: just how much home ownership involves a lot of money,
Speaker 3: a lot of responsibility, a lot of time. It involves
Speaker 3: like putting down and down payment. And if you've got
Speaker 3: to put down and down payment, I mean you don't
Speaker 3: have a rich relative or rich parents or whatever, You're
Speaker 3: going to have to figure out how to come up
Speaker 3: with that money by yourself. Mortgage rates being what they are,
Speaker 3: they've come off seven eight percent levels which we saw
Speaker 3: just several months ago, but it's still not cheap and
Speaker 3: housing is still very very scarce. Affordable housing is still
Speaker 3: very very scarce. So you have to look at all
Speaker 3: of these things and say like, yeah, I can have
Speaker 3: my Starbucks, I can have my avocado toast, but I
Speaker 3: actually do at some point want to own a house
Speaker 3: and it's not going to be so I've got to
Speaker 3: make the sorts of decisions. Now. You know, when you
Speaker 3: spend all of these money, all this money regularly, it
Speaker 3: starts to add up, right.
Speaker 2: Not necessarily on avocado toast. If you're you know, spending
Speaker 2: the money you should be using on a down payment, it's.
Speaker 3: The new vision pro thing. Like, and if you've got
Speaker 3: a lot of money on credit cards and you're carrying balances,
Speaker 3: you're paying interest on it. You're paying a substantial amount
Speaker 3: of interests. You're paying at least to twenty percent interest.
Speaker 3: There's more or less the average APR, and that's a
Speaker 3: record high. So all of these things add up, and
Speaker 3: so they seem in the moment it's like, Okay, it's
Speaker 3: just five dollars, twenty dollars whatever, a lot of money.
Speaker 3: But if you continually do it, and you're working toward
Speaker 3: a financial goal that involves ownership of a home or
Speaker 3: car or whatever it might be, these are things that
Speaker 3: you just have to really weigh in consideration to like
Speaker 3: where you are now and what you've got available and
Speaker 3: where you actually want to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm going to send this video
Speaker 2: to the US government and say, like, hey, Javier says
Speaker 2: that maybe you shouldn't outspend what.
Speaker 1: You're earning, just you know, all the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's one of my favorite topics. We're get
Speaker 3: on that.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a quick break and be right
Speaker 2: back on the Carol Markowitz Show. So switching away from
Speaker 2: the financial world. A question that I ask all of
Speaker 2: my guests is what would you say is our largest
Speaker 2: societal or cultural problem? And do you think it's solvable?
Speaker 3: Wow, We've got a lot of projects. I think I
Speaker 3: think a lot of it. I think people blame social
Speaker 3: media for a lot of things, and I think we
Speaker 3: do have, you know, a number of challenges and our
Speaker 3: law our biggest is were really disconnected. And I think
Speaker 3: that people attributed to you what's what's the best way
Speaker 3: to phrase this? People think it's individualism, But I don't
Speaker 3: believe it's individualism. All the people wanting to do what
Speaker 3: they want to do and they're just looking out for themselves,
Speaker 3: and I don't think that that's really the problem. I
Speaker 3: just think that people are very not are thoughtless, that's
Speaker 3: the best way to put it. Like they're doing things
Speaker 3: or they're behaving in a way that just they're not
Speaker 3: really considering not only themselves, but kind of like the
Speaker 3: domino effect of what they do, like in the future,
Speaker 3: and how that impacts you know, future decision, future availability, future,
Speaker 3: you know, the resources. And in a lot of way,
Speaker 3: you know, we this what we see on social media
Speaker 3: playing out on Twitter or Instagram on any given day
Speaker 3: is really a function of the fact that we are
Speaker 3: very disconnected from ourselves, and I think people are trying
Speaker 3: their best to fill a void and they're just getting
Speaker 3: it all wrong. And a lot of it is you know,
Speaker 3: expressed in you know, consumerism and the crazy news that
Speaker 3: we see on Twitter and social media, and it's all
Speaker 3: a symptom of just something that's really really deeply ingrained
Speaker 3: and that people really are struggling to try and reconcile
Speaker 3: themselves with or compensate for.
Speaker 2: And do you think it's solvable? Is this something that
Speaker 2: we can fix?
Speaker 3: You know, I want to call myself an optimist, but
Speaker 3: you know, I see things just jumping the rails every day,
Speaker 3: like you you you, I'm more of a realist than
Speaker 3: I am optimistic. And it's one of those things, as
Speaker 3: cliches in might sound. I think it's going to get
Speaker 3: worse before it gets better. And I think that people
Speaker 3: we have to hit rock bottom, and apparently I don't
Speaker 3: think we're there yet, and everything I think we are
Speaker 3: sort of at a rock bottom. Things get a little worse,
Speaker 3: and so all of that said, like I just I
Speaker 3: feel like we need to stop placing so much in
Speaker 3: order for things to get better. We need to stop
Speaker 3: placing so much faith or emphasis in politics or the
Speaker 3: political system. People are looking for some sort of like
Speaker 3: you know, superman or super woman or people that were
Speaker 3: to redeem themselves or redeem how you feel about their circumstances,
Speaker 3: and that's the wrong way to look at it. Like,
Speaker 3: and when we're electing government officials, we're not electing our best,
Speaker 3: and we're certainly no, we're not electing our best, and
Speaker 3: we're kind of like imbuing them with this power some
Speaker 3: sort of thing. We kind of want them to govern
Speaker 3: a certain way or govern over in US and like
Speaker 3: we you know, we used to govern ourselves. These people
Speaker 3: work for us. When you elect them. They're supposed to
Speaker 3: be making decisions on our behalf, and they're supposed to
Speaker 3: be like accountable to us, and a lot of ways
Speaker 3: it's not working out that way. And I think that
Speaker 3: that's part of an expression of the whole disconnect and
Speaker 3: the fact that people are yearning for something but are
Speaker 3: like putting it in all of putting the emphasis on
Speaker 3: all the wrong things and all the wrong people.
Speaker 2: I normally end with this question, but this seems like
Speaker 2: a natural segue. Here is what's your best tip for
Speaker 2: my listeners on how they can improve their lives?
Speaker 3: Get off the computer once in a while, Just close
Speaker 3: the phone, close the laptop, go out, go to a movie.
Speaker 3: I go to the movies every week. Really, you're a
Speaker 3: Brooklyn night and you know, you know where the night
Speaker 3: Hawk is the night week. Every week they have great
Speaker 3: retro movies, like I'm going to see Shafts next week.
Speaker 3: I saw Mommy Darius there a few weeks ago, a
Speaker 3: few months ago. I really enjoy the movies, and I
Speaker 3: really enjoy going to the movies. It's strangers itself by myself.
Speaker 3: I just kind of like sitting in the movie theater
Speaker 3: and it's dark and you got your popform food. If
Speaker 3: you go to place like the Nighthawk, they serve cocktails,
Speaker 3: they starve for full menu. It's really cool and it's
Speaker 3: like and I'm in walking distance, so often most of
Speaker 3: the time I end up walking there, riding my bike,
Speaker 3: getting fresh air and sort of unplugging from the matrix.
Speaker 3: That well convinced ourselves we need to participate and partake
Speaker 3: in every day and give hot takes and on the
Speaker 3: Instagram or whatever, and give it all the rest, like
Speaker 3: you know, give yourself, give your like, your mind a break.
Speaker 2: What would you be doing if you were not a
Speaker 2: financial journalist? What would the plan b for?
Speaker 3: Javier believe or I really wanted to be a lawyer
Speaker 3: at one point I forget that. The cliffs stillest version
Speaker 3: of my life is like right it from high school,
Speaker 3: went straight to the military. I was a paralegal in
Speaker 3: the Army. I got exposed to law that way, and
Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, this is great. I want to
Speaker 3: do this. And I graduated Like once I got a
Speaker 3: military I went right to college. I blasted my way
Speaker 3: through college, double major in economics and politics and I
Speaker 3: minored in English LID. And my whole idea was I
Speaker 3: was going to you know, leverage that to go to
Speaker 3: walls cool, But then as like, wow, it's a three
Speaker 3: year commitment and it's so expensive, and so I got
Speaker 3: a master's degree instead. I kind of stumbled into financial journalism.
Speaker 3: But I was actually, you know, once upon a time
Speaker 3: during myself for preparing myself for a career in law.
Speaker 2: Wow, I really would not have guessed that. I feel
Speaker 2: like you might have missed your calling with voiceover work.
Speaker 2: You have this great voice and it's so soothing. I
Speaker 2: could like listen to, you know, tell me about financial markets.
Speaker 3: And so it's not Shakespeare, but.
Speaker 2: I believe in you. I think you could totally do Shakespeare.
Speaker 3: I used to love Shakespeare. I was a big Shakespeare fan.
Speaker 2: I could see that, yeah, and I could see you,
Speaker 2: you know, on a stage like its just something to consider,
Speaker 2: you know, right, do you feel like you've made it?
Speaker 3: No, I feel like made king. It is a misnomer.
Speaker 3: It's almost like miss leading in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you never stop learning and you
Speaker 3: should never stop growing. And I think that once you
Speaker 3: have like that's a real danger. I am firmly of
Speaker 3: the belief that, like, you know, I don't know what
Speaker 3: make it looks like and I think that a lot
Speaker 3: of ways, like a lot of us look to people
Speaker 3: with a lot of money and a lot of power
Speaker 3: and famous, and it's like, wow, like I want that,
Speaker 3: and you don't. Necessarily. Those folks have a lot of problems.
Speaker 3: I don't. Necessarily I wouldn't want to be Elon Musk
Speaker 3: for all the money and the billions that he has,
Speaker 3: I would want I probably Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: I just I always think, like such a tough life.
Speaker 3: But it really is. And I feel firmly that money,
Speaker 3: a lot of money, just turns people into animals. And
Speaker 3: the proximity to it, people just feel like they have
Speaker 3: to have it, or they have to ingratiate themselves with
Speaker 3: people that have it so that they can get some
Speaker 3: of it. It, you know, corrodes your morality, It can
Speaker 3: corrode your sense of self, and it's not a good thing.
Speaker 3: And I would, you know, just always said to myself,
Speaker 3: I just want to live comfortably, and I do live comfortably,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm grateful and I'm thankful for like
Speaker 3: the life that I have and the decisions that I've
Speaker 3: made and the fact that you know, my bills are
Speaker 3: paid I can come see my mom and Miami most important,
Speaker 3: and go hang out in West Palm Beach sometimes even
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just I have to correct you.
Speaker 2: Though we saw each other on Palm Beach, the people
Speaker 2: on Palm Beach do not like when you call Palm
Speaker 2: Beach West Palm Beach.
Speaker 3: Like as I said, my my, my knowledge of Florida
Speaker 3: gets a little fuzzy over around Fort Laarden. I went
Speaker 3: to high school in Miami, so I'm like South, very
Speaker 3: South Florida oriented. But like everything, passport starts again a
Speaker 3: little blurning.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I love that advice, you know, get off
Speaker 2: the internet, and I you know, I talk about that
Speaker 2: on the show a lot. Touch Grass, Live your life,
Speaker 2: love it. Thank you so much for coming on, Javier.
Speaker 2: I love talking to you and we'll hopefully talk to
Speaker 2: you again soon.
Speaker 3: Definitely. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us on The Carol Markowitz Show.
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