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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: We are back together on the same show, and it

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Speaker 1: is one that is filled with tons of news, most

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Speaker 1: of it very positive. Buck is here in Nashville as

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Speaker 1: he has continued his world tour and we've got a

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Speaker 1: speaking engagement with one of our crew this afternoon evening,

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Speaker 1: so that will be very fun. But right off the top,

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Speaker 1: President Trump yesterday announced that we have what we hope

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Speaker 1: is a lasting peace arrangement.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 1: Trump is holding a cabinet meeting now, so we will

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Speaker 1: monitor and see what additional news is outstanding there. But

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Speaker 1: let's start. Let's start with all of this basic breakdown.

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Speaker 1: Monday is expected to be the day for the return

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Speaker 1: of the living hostages that have been held now for

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Speaker 1: over two years, since the October seventh, twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: terror attacks. Based on what I have seen, it appears

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Speaker 1: that there are around twenty different hostages that are still

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Speaker 1: alive and they've been held in the most extreme, awful

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Speaker 1: conditions imaginable for the past two years. That return seems

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Speaker 1: likely to happen. There has also been a cease fire

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Speaker 1: agreed to in Gaza, and let me play a couple

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Speaker 1: of cuts here. Cut one is President Trump on the

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Speaker 1: phone with the hostage family members. You can listen to

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Speaker 1: them as they cheer as President Trump lets them know

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Speaker 1: that their family members are coming home.

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Speaker 2: Cut one, President of Trump, you have the best crowd

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Speaker 2: in the world. What do you guys have to say

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Speaker 2: to President Trump?

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Speaker 3: You did it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. This is amazing, mister President. We believe in you.

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Speaker 3: We know you've done so much for us over the

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Speaker 3: past since you became a president, even before that, and

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Speaker 3: we trust you fulfilled the mission until every hostage, every

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Speaker 3: forty eight of the hostages are home.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Blessed be the Peacemaker.

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Speaker 2: God, bless you, mister President.

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Speaker 5: You just said here yourselves, the hostages will come back

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Speaker 5: there coming coming back on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Buck. Here's my big takeaway here.

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Speaker 1: They have spent a decade telling all of us that

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Speaker 1: are Trump supporters that we are Nazis, that Trump is

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Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler incarnate. And I know that because we're dealing

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Speaker 1: with oftentimes profoundly evil people who are going to continue

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Speaker 1: to enact here against the people of Israel. That is

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Speaker 1: the Muslim fundamentalist, the Islamic terrorists. They are going to

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Speaker 1: continue to attack, but to the extent that we can

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Speaker 1: have some form of normalcy return to the Middle East,

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Speaker 1: and for Trump to get these hostages home. We hope

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Speaker 1: and pray that it will happen on Monday. The ones

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Speaker 1: that are still alive, I think twenty expected to still

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Speaker 1: be alive. Twenty eight bodies that are still being held,

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Speaker 1: is my understanding. Of those forty eight that number there.

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Speaker 2: This would be one.

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Speaker 1: Of the most profoundly transformative, monumental Middle East peace agreements

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Speaker 1: As I know, I was over there in December, and

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Speaker 1: as you know, you've been there before. But Trump is

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Speaker 1: the most popular American president probably in the history of

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Speaker 1: Israel being a country. And this is a moment that

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Speaker 1: I think many of us believed was likely to occur,

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Speaker 1: and it's one that should provoke a great deal of

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Speaker 1: cognitive dissonance in the minds of all the people who

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Speaker 1: have been telling us that Trump is Hitler, that he's

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Speaker 1: going to bring about World War three. This is an

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Speaker 1: incredible accomplishment and Trump and his entire team should be

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Speaker 1: praised to the high heavens regardless of what partisan lens

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Speaker 1: you've viewed this from. This is not just a home run.

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Speaker 1: This is an upper deck grand slam. If it comes

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Speaker 6: Well, even Trump haters are having to put the hate

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Speaker 6: on pause for a second here. I'm sure you've seen

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Speaker 6: some of this clay. They're saying, well, even if somebody's

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Speaker 6: wrong ninety nine times, if they're right on the hundredth

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Speaker 6: you know, even if he's doing it just because just

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Speaker 6: because he wants the Nobel Peace Prize, they're sneering at

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Speaker 6: him over this, but they have to admit that a

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Speaker 6: win is a win. As they say online, a win

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Speaker 6: is a win. You got to take the win, take

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Speaker 6: the w here, and I think it's important to view

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Speaker 6: this the deal is in phases. Our sense of this

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Speaker 6: should follow meaning it is enormously it is enormous progress.

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Speaker 6: It is enormously encouraging that the war is coming to

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Speaker 6: that there won't be bloodshed unless at this point, if

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Speaker 6: Hamas were to blow this deal up at this stage,

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Speaker 6: Israel's just gonna hunt them all down and kill them. Also,

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Speaker 6: I don't think that they're going to do that. This

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Speaker 6: is going to save lives. The fact that the hostages

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Speaker 6: are going home, the fact that Israel is trading for

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Speaker 6: forty eight total, including some the remains of hostages. Can

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Speaker 6: I also note here all the hostages should be alive. Yes,

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Speaker 6: this is something that doesn't get enough. These hostages were

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Speaker 6: in the custody of Hamas. They could have kept them

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Speaker 6: all alive. Something I'm going to keep returning to here, Clay,

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Speaker 6: these are not Israel and Hamas are not morally equivalent,

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Speaker 6: nowhere near it as entities. This is a situation. People

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Speaker 6: combatants involved here it is good guys and bad guys.

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Speaker 2: Israel are the good guys. That is just reality.

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Speaker 6: But the war coming to an end is obviously an

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Speaker 6: enormously encouraging a humanitarian step.

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Speaker 2: It's a good thing.

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Speaker 6: And Trump was the guy able to get this done

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Speaker 6: because he's somebody who manages to break the usual paradigm,

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Speaker 6: which is you have to beat your either pro Israeli

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Speaker 6: Israeli is kind of the way that this often breaks

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Speaker 6: down with Trump. It's no hold on, guys. I just

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Speaker 6: have a goal here. I want this thing to be done.

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Speaker 6: I'm willing to push and make concessions and deal make

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Speaker 6: for both sides. It's enormously you know, enormously encouraging, and

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Speaker 6: I'm very, very pleased the President has gotten this.

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Speaker 1: Let me hit you a couple of cuts. This is

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Speaker 1: President Trump on our friend Sean Hannity Show last night.

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Speaker 1: Here he is cut a You heard him say the

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Speaker 1: hostages would be coming home on Monday, but here he

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Speaker 1: is speaking in more detail. We should also say, before

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Speaker 1: replace some of these things, there are people who want

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Speaker 1: war to continue. There are many of them, and so

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't stun me or shock me if there are

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Speaker 1: after effects, sort of post action agreement that is designed

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Speaker 1: to try to derail this between now and then. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I think we should expect them before we place some

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Speaker 1: of those cuts. Can I just throw as an addendum

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Speaker 1: to what you just said, there are American democrats, There

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Speaker 1: are leftists in our country who truly would rather see

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Speaker 1: this conflict, which they call a genocide.

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Speaker 6: Mind you, it is not a genocide, but they call

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Speaker 6: it a genocide. If they had their choice, they would

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Speaker 6: rather the quote unquote genocide continue. Then Trump get the

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Speaker 6: credit for ending this, which tells you a lot about

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Speaker 6: the people involved. A lot of people who are saying

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Speaker 6: cease fire within hours of the initial October seventh terrorist attack,

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Speaker 6: which was a bad faith. Israel's not allowed to defend itself,

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Speaker 6: maneuver Clay all of a sudden, cease fires or suspect

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Speaker 2: Isn't that so strange? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And you would think if you truly believe that a

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Speaker 1: to celebrate. Have there been celebrations from the pro Palestindian activists? Again,

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Speaker 1: they don't want peace, they want a perpetual war. So

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Speaker 1: my concern is a terrorist actor will try, probably multiple

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Speaker 1: of them, to stage attacks to derail this peace process.

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Speaker 1: But here's Trump talking about, as you laid out, Buck,

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Speaker 1: this is a multi step process. There are many different

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Speaker 1: actions that have to be undertaken. But Hamas turning over

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Speaker 1: the hostages is basically the end of Hamas being able

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Speaker 1: to bargain in any way. The reason they took these

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Speaker 1: This was very intentional on their part. Once the hostages

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Speaker 1: and the bodies, Unfortunately, as you said, Buck, of those

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Speaker 1: hostages whose lives were lost while they were in captivity,

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Speaker 1: once all of that is turned back over, Hamas has

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Speaker 1: no bargaining power left again. This is why they took

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Speaker 1: these hostages. But this is Trump last night on Sean

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Speaker 5: Eight, I think you're going to see all of that disappear.

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Speaker 5: I think you're going to see people getting along and

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Speaker 5: you'll see guys are being rebuilt. We're forming a council

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Speaker 5: that the Council of Peace.

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Speaker 7: to a large extent, it's going to have a lot

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 5: Really the Middle East came together amazingly, they came together.

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Speaker 5: You know, they have some countries with extraordinary wealth and

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Speaker 7: So will we'll be involved in it. But the big,

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Speaker 1: The expectation, Buck, is that unless something has changed. The

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Speaker 1: to the Middle East and address the Israeli legislature the

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. So all of this is potentially transformative. Again,

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Speaker 1: there are many different steps that it must be followed,

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Speaker 1: but Trump said he was going to bring peace here.

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Speaker 1: If he can do it, he would deserve the Nobel

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Speaker 1: Peace Prize. I also think this then we'll put more

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Speaker 1: of a attention on the Ukraine Russia conflict to see

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Speaker 1: if Trump can basically bring to a large extent peace

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Speaker 1: to the world within the first year of his presidency.

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Speaker 1: This is pretty impressive, even you mentioned it, Buck, even

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Speaker 1: people who hate Trump. The Washington Post David Ignatius h

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Speaker 1: said ignacious, ignacious, No way this would have happened if

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Speaker 1: sign that that you've upset the Apple card of expectations.

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Speaker 8: Cut to the deal that President Trump is announcing played

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Speaker 8: a key part in negotiating. Is a significant change. This

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Speaker 8: war was blocked for two years. President Biden, who preceded him,

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Speaker 8: was unable to find a way to stop it. President

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Speaker 8: Trump found that found that way by being tough on

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Speaker 8: both sides.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 8: And you'll take a victory lap for sure over the

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Speaker 8: next few days, but it's it's deserved.

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Speaker 2: There's no way that I can.

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Speaker 8: See that this would have been done without Trump's pressure

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Speaker 8: in the final hours.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is what I mean by David Ignatius is

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Speaker 6: not somebody who is pro Trump at all. He's worked

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Speaker 6: explicitly against the Trump administration and Trump himself in the

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Speaker 6: past as really an activist journalist. But I would say

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Speaker 6: this is just a recognition of the clear reality. People

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Speaker 6: this is a huge win, not just for Trump, but

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Speaker 6: a huge win for really everybody of good faith in

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Speaker 6: By the way, people kept asking me about us, mister Finebaum. Yes,

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Speaker 2: War War, World War three.

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Speaker 6: jarring about Putin is he certainly has no is not

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Speaker 6: losing any sleep at night about Ukrainian casualties. He's not

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Speaker 6: losing any sleep about Russian casualties either. Yeah, this is,

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Speaker 6: unfortunately the mindset that he operates with. So that means

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Speaker 6: that conflict is likely to continue on unless there's a

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Speaker 6: real change in that. Trump has at least started to

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Speaker 6: push in that direction publicly. If Putin starts to feel

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Speaker 6: like they are losing some territory inside of Ukraine. Maybe

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Speaker 6: then there'd be more of a willingness, But that's a

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Speaker 6: tough ask for a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 1: How much do you think this is cultural in that

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Speaker 1: the way Russia defines itself in the modern era from

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Speaker 1: a positive perspective is by the sacrifice that the country

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Speaker 1: was willing to make during World War Two. And so

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Speaker 1: if you go back in time historically Russia, obviously the

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Speaker 1: collapse of communism and the Cold War that they lost,

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Speaker 1: it's not something that is a point of pride in

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Speaker 1: that country. But how much of the willingness of Russians

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Speaker 1: to accept frankly, huge, huge casualty numbers is a function

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Speaker 1: of that patriotic connection to the past, where basically the

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Speaker 1: entire country giving up the flower of the US is

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Speaker 1: sterling moments in all of Russian history.

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Speaker 6: Well, this is how Russians fight wars, just with throwing

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Speaker 6: manpower at it. They've they've generally had they had really

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Speaker 6: weak speaking of generally generals in World War Two because

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Speaker 6: a lot of problems with that. Now some of the

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Speaker 6: in Russian past have have been talented, but they generally

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Speaker 6: throw a lot of bodies at the problem, and that's

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Speaker 6: what they're doing in Ukraine as well. So, yeah, I

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Speaker 6: don't know how Trump that's the big one that is

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Speaker 6: on the list next to bring us back to Trump

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Speaker 6: the peacemaker if he can. I would say this, then

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Speaker 6: people might already feel that way, and that's fine. They

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Speaker 6: might be saying, if he doesn't get the Nobel Peace

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Speaker 6: Prize for this deal, it's effectively a meaningless award anyway,

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Speaker 6: because it's just some partisan tool the global elites. I

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Speaker 6: think that's probably already true. But if he were to

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Speaker 6: end the Russia Ukraine War two and it was clear

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Speaker 6: that he had a central role in that and after.

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Speaker 2: This and didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize, then it's

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Speaker 2: a total joke.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe it's already there, but it definitely would be

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Speaker 6: a total joke at that point.

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Speaker 1: Somebody just texted me or email me that once Obama

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Speaker 1: got the Nobel Peace Prize for nothing, it had become

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Speaker 1: a participation trophy in many ways, as opposed to a

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Speaker 1: reward for an award. For what you actually accomplished. I

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Speaker 1: do wonder if peace in the Middle East, if he

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Speaker 1: suddenly is able to pivot in many ways directly to

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Speaker 1: Ukraine Russia. I still don't understand how this gets resolved

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Speaker 1: in meaning Ukraine Russia, because to your point, Putin basically

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Speaker 1: knows that long term he has the ability to lean

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Speaker 1: on Ukraine, and we still don't know exactly where that

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Speaker 1: laws is.

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Speaker 2: Where.

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Speaker 1: If he gets this amount of territory, he's satisfied, And

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Speaker 1: it just feels kind of intractable at this point to me,

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Speaker 1: because if Trump can't get it solved negotiation wise, to

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Speaker 1: your point, it seems quite clear that Vladimir Putin just

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Speaker 1: will not end this war. So how do you in

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Speaker 1: any way ended when Putin just refuses.

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Speaker 6: Well, see, this is what I meant by he doesn't

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Speaker 6: leave lose sleep at night over the casualties. There's no

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Speaker 6: moral or humanitarian imperative that is at work with Vladimir

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Speaker 6: Putin at all.

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Speaker 2: This is it's pure force.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 6: I think the Israelis, I think the IDF for a

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Speaker 6: for a while have just wanted Look, we're willing to stop,

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Speaker 6: we don't want to have to keep doing this.

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Speaker 2: But we have to know that they're going to stop.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, you know.

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Speaker 1: You have that with this, and we have to get

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Speaker 1: the hostages, which is what the HOSS has refused to

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Speaker 1: release unfortunately.

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Speaker 6: And I know that we're very pleased, as of course

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Speaker 6: we should be. I mean people I know, people who

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Speaker 6: were teering up at the news about the hostages going

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Speaker 6: that some of the hostages are going home. But I

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Speaker 6: just can't. I can't forget that a lot of hostages

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Speaker 6: are not going home alive. Yes, and that is an

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Speaker 6: active decision that was made. They had civilians in custody

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Speaker 6: and they let them die or they killed them one

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Speaker 6: or the other, I mean, which is the same thing.

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Speaker 6: They're in your custody. So they killed civilians that they

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Speaker 6: were holding as hostages.

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Speaker 2: So the moral.

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Speaker 6: Calculations here should be very clear to everybody about who

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Speaker 6: the good guys are, who the bad guys are. But

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Speaker 6: I do think that Trump now turning his there's going

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Speaker 6: to be some focus on this, of course, but turning

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Speaker 6: his attention to rush Ukraine issue. It has to be

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Speaker 6: what are the incentives for Putin to stop? Yes, you

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Speaker 6: have to change incentives with him. He is a It

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Speaker 6: is like dealing with a rattlesnake. You cannot say, hey,

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Speaker 6: don't bite me. That's mean it has to be you

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Speaker 6: back off or I'm going to take your head.

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Speaker 1: Which I think Trump gets because Trump's new focus has

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Speaker 1: been let's keep Russia from being able to sell their

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Speaker 1: oil through India. We're going to put a penalty on India.

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Speaker 1: And he's given Ukraine the ability in theory to actually

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Speaker 1: has not occurred so far. The risk there, obviously is

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Speaker 1: but I think you're right. I mean Putin has to

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Speaker 1: come to realize that otherwise there is no way to

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Speaker 1: actually end this war. We'll take some of your calls,

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Speaker 1: of breaking news here as we go into the third

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Speaker 1: hour of the program, a new poll has just been

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Speaker 1: released by Quinnipiac in the New York City Mayor's race,

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Speaker 1: now down to three since Eric Adams has dropped out.

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Speaker 1: According to this poll, Zoron Mamdani forty six percent support,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo thirty three percent support, Curtis Sliwa fifteen percent support. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: We will get into the Virginia race. We're going to

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Speaker 1: out from the Democrat nominee. But you've got the Virginia race,

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Speaker 1: you got the New Jersey race, and we are sitting

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Speaker 1: day of twenty twenty five, with all of those being

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Speaker 1: very important races.

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Speaker 2: But we talked about as we were going to break.

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Speaker 1: The way that X has changed the conversation in the

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Speaker 1: country right now, and I wanted to play for you

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Speaker 1: Harry Inton on CNN talking about what the makeup is

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Speaker 1: of Twitter now in the wake of Elon Musk buying it.

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Speaker 1: When did he buy a buck twenty two? If I'm

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Speaker 1: not mistaken, I think it's been about three years that

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Speaker 1: Elon has run Twitter. Here is what the data reflects.

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Speaker 12: To go back to twenty twenty one, the party I

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Speaker 12: D margin, You're thirty seven points more likely to be

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Speaker 12: a Democrat on Twitter or X than a Republican. Jump

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Speaker 12: ahead to this side of the screen. It's completely changed around.

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Speaker 12: Oh my goodness, gracious now it's a fourteen point lead

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Speaker 12: for Republicans on Twitter slash X.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about a fifty one point shift in the margin.

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Speaker 12: You know, there are a lot of folks that I

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Speaker 12: know we are on the left side of the isle

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Speaker 12: who ran over to Blue Sky, ran over to threads.

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Speaker 2: But here's the field.

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Speaker 12: The bottom line is those are minuscule compared to Twitter

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Speaker 12: or x use this social media. In twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 12: twenty one percent of Americans are on Twitter or x threads.

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Speaker 2: It's just eight percent.

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Speaker 12: Looseky even smaller, just four percent. You add together the

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Speaker 12: four plus the eight that gets you to twelve percent.

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Speaker 12: That is only about half the level that are on

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Speaker 12: Twitter slash sex.

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Speaker 1: So the impact is real, Buck, and I think it

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Speaker 1: has been utterly transformative in terms of how the nation

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Speaker 6: Well, it shows you that Democrats are unable to win

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Speaker 6: arguments unless they've got us just out platformed and outnumbered. Right,

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Speaker 6: this is like if you're gonna get into a if

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Speaker 6: you're gonna get into a scuffle with somebody, there's one

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Speaker 6: on one and there's ten on one. And even if

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Speaker 6: two on one is really hard. But if it's ten

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Speaker 6: on one, you're not gonna you're not gonna win that battle.

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Speaker 6: And that's what democrats have had with social media and

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Speaker 6: with a lot of the legacy media systems that they've

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Speaker 2: So we've seen a.

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Speaker 6: Break in that, and people will rightly point out, well,

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Speaker 6: hold on, they still you know, TikTok is still left

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Speaker 6: wing dominated.

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Speaker 2: You know, face this book is.

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Speaker 6: Facebook is like okay right now, because I think Zuckerberg

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Speaker 6: realizes that you don't want to get Trump upset at you.

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Speaker 6: But the fact of the matter is they can't suppress

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Speaker 6: stories the days of the Hunter Biden laptop media fiasco,

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Speaker 6: let's remind everybody there was even more stuff about this

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Speaker 2: It was all true.

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Speaker 6: All the stuff at the right was saying about this

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Speaker 6: that we've been talking about Clay on this show for

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Speaker 6: years was all accurate. But when they tried to hide

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Speaker 6: the Hunter Biden laptop story in twenty twenty, they were

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Speaker 6: able to largely do it because of the control they

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Speaker 6: had of the online media ecosystem, which is now the

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Speaker 6: new public Square. Elon Musk has broken the back of

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Speaker 6: that and that is a huge benefit I think it

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Speaker 6: made an enormous difference in Trump's election, and I think

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Speaker 6: it makes an enormous difference in the Left doesn't even

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Speaker 6: want to fight us anymore publicly, like they won't actually

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Speaker 6: try the stuff that they used to because they can't

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Speaker 6: count on having us outnumbered and ambushed online.

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Speaker 2: I used to.

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Speaker 1: Feel attacked all the time on social media all the time,

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Speaker 1: to the last time somebody really came after me, and

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Speaker 1: I think partly it's algorithmic, so you see less of that.

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably by design, but the marketplace of

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Speaker 1: ideas is real. My concern is on Twitter X, my

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Speaker 1: concern about YouTube and TikTok and Facebook. Facebook's a good

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Speaker 1: example because it's existed for a long time. Mark Zuckerberg

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Speaker 1: moves in whatever direction the political currents move.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I.

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Speaker 1: Think that he has a consistent core. If Barack Obama's

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Speaker 1: in office, he's going to do things that make Obama happy.

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Speaker 1: If Biden is he's going to do things that make

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Speaker 1: Biden happy. And now Trump's in office, and he's going

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Speaker 1: to do things that make Trump happy. My concern is

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Speaker 1: there is no core principle that you can point to

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Speaker 1: at Facebook other than We're going to make the party

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Speaker 1: in power as happy as we possibly can. I do

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Speaker 1: think Elon has demonstrated that he's willing to take the

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Speaker 1: slings and arrows of attack, even when it has a

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Speaker 1: significant financial component associated with it, in a way that

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Speaker 1: the other leaders of these media companies have not. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm somewhat cautiously optimistic that the new paramount leadership the Ellisons,

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Speaker 1: because Larry Ellison, the second richest man in the world,

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Speaker 1: has been pretty stubborn and been willing to have people

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Speaker 1: attack him before. And he is a Tim Scott backer

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Speaker 1: who has been active in Republican politics before. So I'm

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Speaker 1: cautiously optimistic that he's going to provide some legacy media

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Speaker 1: backbone there. We know Rupert Murdoch has taken slings and

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Speaker 1: arrows for generations with the New York Posts, the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal, in Fox. But do you agree with me

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Speaker 1: the Zuckerbergs of the world. I mean, if Kavin Newsom

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Speaker 1: wins in twenty god forbid in twenty twenty eight, I

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Speaker 1: think he'll go right back to whatever makes Gavin Newsom happy.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a principle there.

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Speaker 6: I'm one hundred percent in my mind at least certain

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Speaker 6: that that is the case that a lot of what

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Speaker 6: we've seen with these social media companies. I think that Elon,

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Speaker 6: who can be a mercurial guy on some things, but

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Speaker 6: I think that on the issue of free speech and

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Speaker 6: free exchange of ideas, he is deeply devoted to that.

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Speaker 6: And I think that that's the best you can ask

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Speaker 6: Where people say, well, now it's just at the whim

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Speaker 6: of Elon musk on x well' the whim of a

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Speaker 6: guy who truly believes in the principle. I think that

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Speaker 6: that's the best you can ask for because it's not

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Speaker 6: a public utility and they're not going to be able

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Speaker 6: to regulate it like one. And now it's not a

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Speaker 6: social justice left wing woke looney bin.

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Speaker 2: So it's better.

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Speaker 6: It's a lot better than it was, and we've got

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Speaker 6: to take the wins where we can on this to

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Speaker 6: the point that it is. And this is where Rush

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Speaker 6: read from you saying billionaires need to get involved back

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Speaker 6: in the day, and it's like, I'm far from a billionaire,

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Speaker 6: but it's why I found it out.

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Speaker 2: Kick. The best thing you can do is put your

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Speaker 2: money where your mouth is.

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Speaker 1: If you are listening to us, right now, and you've

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Speaker 1: been frustrated over the way that media and the way

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Speaker 1: that politics has and culture has been influenced in this country.

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Speaker 1: The best thing you can do is put your money

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Speaker 1: on the table and try to impact that.

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Speaker 2: And I believe Elon is going.

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Speaker 1: To remain committed to free speech. The challenge here is

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Speaker 1: there's only a couple of guys and right now are

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Speaker 1: all guys that are truly committed to free speech. And

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Speaker 1: this is why I come back to as good as

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Speaker 1: Trump is and as great as Trump two point zero

742
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Speaker 1: has been so far, what is ailing our country is

743
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Speaker 1: going to take twenty years to fix and mention by

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Speaker 1: the way, President can't make it happen.

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Speaker 6: The team actually has that cut of Rush. This was

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Speaker 6: back in June of twenty twenty talking about this exact problem,

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Speaker 6: Cut thirty one.

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Speaker 13: Many of you might remember the former guest host on

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Speaker 13: this program, Buck Sextead of the CIA. Buck now tweets

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Speaker 13: a lot. Does he have his own show now? Or

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Speaker 13: yeah he does? Wait wait, Buck has been on a

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Speaker 13: tweet storm and had to put it in one of

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Speaker 13: those one of those thread apps because there's so many

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Speaker 13: tweets and he's ticked off at how conservative everything has

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Speaker 13: just given up.

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Speaker 2: He has just.

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Speaker 13: Seated the country seated, Hollywood seeded, music seated, television seated,

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Speaker 13: the media seated.

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Speaker 2: Everything. Doesn't understand it.

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Speaker 13: If one of the conservative billionaires out there has any

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Speaker 13: stomach for saving their country from this mob, they should

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Speaker 13: buy and flip a major media platform or fund a

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Speaker 13: new one and make it an unsinkable aircraft's carrier of

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Speaker 13: true free speech.

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Speaker 6: That is what Elon did. Yeah, he did it about

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Speaker 6: two years later, Clay. But that was the only answer,

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Speaker 6: and that's why Rush I think, seized on this right away.

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Speaker 6: That was the only way we were going to break

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Speaker 6: It was essentially a speech blockade that they were running.

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Speaker 1: And also, this is where sometimes builds your own just

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Speaker 1: doesn't work because the scale of success required to truly

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Speaker 1: influence society. They tried with Blue Sky, they've tried with Threads.

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Speaker 2: Nobody cares.

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Speaker 1: And that's not me because they're not trying to do

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Speaker 1: it with those platforms. It's because they aren't going to

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Speaker 1: reach the same level of influence because it's very hard

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Speaker 1: to get an influential app built and you can't just

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Speaker 1: build a new one.

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Speaker 6: I try to tell people also, you've got to be

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Speaker 6: careful even if you are an occasional an occasional viewer

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Speaker 6: and user of Blue Sky, because as a guy, your

782
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Speaker 6: testosterol level will immediately drop down to that of like

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Speaker 6: a twelve year old girl, and you'll start just to

784
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Speaker 6: have like Brad Stealte. You'll be lucky around the house,

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Speaker 6: be like I was just a Blue Sky and I'm

786
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Speaker 6: so upset about Trump's fascism.

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Speaker 2: So just be careful.

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Speaker 6: Blue Sky only in limited doses if you want to

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Speaker 6: see how crazy the left is. But you know, Clay,

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Speaker 6: it's like trying to clean up the nuclear reactor. The

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Speaker 6: longer you're in there, the more exposed to the fallout

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Speaker 6: you are.

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Speaker 1: And I would point out too that you went on

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Speaker 1: there to your credit after the Charlie Kirk assassination. Those

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Speaker 1: platforms are far more toxic than Parlor, for instance, which

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Speaker 1: they decided was the cause of the January sixth event,

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Speaker 1: and they shut it down and suddenly you couldn't even

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Speaker 1: get on the Internet. And to a large extent, there

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Speaker 1: is no pressure to regulate them in any way. And

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Speaker 1: you know where now, Honestly, the most fervent left wingers

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Speaker 1: go together is Reddit. That is their platform of choice,

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Speaker 1: that is influential. I don't think Blue Sky or Threads

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Speaker 1: are remotely influential. I don't ever see anybody building stories

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Speaker 1: around the arguments made there. Reddit is where you go

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Speaker 1: if you are a far left winger to hang out online.

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Speaker 1: So again, nobody can guarantee any commitment to principle of

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Speaker 1: free speech over time. But I do believe that Elon

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Speaker 1: is going to continue to allow Twitter to flourish as

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Speaker 1: a free speech platform. And what I think is coming back,

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Speaker 1: and I've talked about this a little little bit, but

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Speaker 1: I bet you kind of see it too, is ultimately

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Speaker 1: all of AI is going to be a function of

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Speaker 1: the input of AI, and so there will be supremely

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Speaker 1: woke AI, which will be very popular with the MSNBC viewers.

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Speaker 1: I think Elon's ex AI is going to be popular

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Speaker 1: with what I would call saying people, and this idea

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Speaker 1: that AI is going to be some sort of utopia.

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Speaker 1: The algorithm is going to tell you what AI gives you,

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Speaker 1: and the Elon algorithm, I am confident, will be more

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Speaker 1: likable and acceptable in terms of its answers too many

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Speaker 1: of the people listening right now than will many of

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Speaker 1: the other AI.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this will continue to play out.

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Speaker 6: In the meantime, I do get a kick out of

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Speaker 6: having my burger brought to my house sometimes by a

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Speaker 6: They're just kind of buzzing along like Johnny five, number

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, I didn't even know that.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. You know, Clay,

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Speaker 2: I was in DC and it was during the government shutdown,

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Speaker 2: I could get everywhere.

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Speaker 6: It was the DC that I wish I could always

881
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Speaker 6: have lived in, where you just get all the upside

882
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Speaker 6: but not the overcrowding. So it was it was really nice.

883
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Speaker 6: Trump spoke about the shutdown in this cabinet meeting just now,

884
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Speaker 6: right right when we came on air. Here's what he

885
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Speaker 6: said about it. This has cut thirty five hit.

886
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Speaker 11: It, and we'll be making cuts it. We'll be permanent.

887
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Speaker 11: And we're only going to cut Democrat programs.

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Speaker 4: I hate to I guess that makes sense, but we're

889
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Speaker 4: only cutting Democrat programs With him to shut that, and

890
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Speaker 4: we have Russell we can talk to you about it

891
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Speaker 4: if he wants to.

892
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Speaker 11: But where we'll be cutting some very popular Democrats programs

893
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Speaker 11: that earn't popular with Republicans, factly because that's the way

894
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Speaker 11: it works. They wanted to do this, so we'll get

895
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Speaker 11: a little taste of their own fantasy.

896
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Speaker 6: Trump is enjoying the shutdowns so far, Clay, he is

897
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Speaker 6: not backing down an inch. Neither are the well, most

898
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Speaker 6: of the Republican centers. We had Senator Ron Johnson on

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Speaker 6: someonch you guys, do we have Senator Tuberville right now?

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Speaker 6: All right, Senator Tuberville, We've got a lot to talk

901
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Speaker 6: to you about. Thanks for joining us here. I'll actually

902
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Speaker 6: start just with the shutdown. Is the Republican caucus? Is

903
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Speaker 6: everyone standing strong on this one? Anybody getting the weak,

904
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Speaker 6: getting weak in the knees. You gotta let us know.

905
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Speaker 6: We can't have that stuff, No caving allowed.

906
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Speaker 10: Well, I've seen a couple of a couple of soft

907
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Speaker 10: movements here lately from Republicans, but I think there's more

908
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Speaker 10: on the side of Democrats. I think the polling is

909
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 10: going against them. But we just got a hoole strong guys,

910
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Speaker 10: if we don't hold strong, in which we normally don't

911
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Speaker 10: on the Republican side, somebody starts to cave, and then

912
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Speaker 10: we're going to band for a one point five trillion

913
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Speaker 10: dollars more that American taxpayers are going to unlose because

914
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Speaker 10: of the corrupt Democrats and Socialist Party trying to spend

915
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Speaker 10: everything they send up here.

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Speaker 1: Do you get the sense, because I don't. I've been

917
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Speaker 1: on the road. I was just down in Florida. I've

918
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Speaker 1: been traveling all fall, but since the shutdown started, no

919
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Speaker 1: one asked me about it, And I understand that it's

920
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Speaker 1: a real focus in Washington, d C. But I don't

921
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Speaker 1: get the sense that Democrats are actually creating some form

922
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Speaker 1: of huge uproar over the government being shut down. And

923
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Speaker 1: now we've got President and Trump trying to travel to

924
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Speaker 1: the Middle East and potentially bringing peace there. I feel

925
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Speaker 1: like that story is far more important and attention gathering

926
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Speaker 1: right now than anything relating to the shutdown. I'm curious

927
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Speaker 1: what you hear when you are on the road and

928
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Speaker 1: people talk to you about things impacting their lives.

929
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Speaker 10: Well, I hear more about tariffs than I do anything.

930
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Speaker 10: That's because of the farmers and you know they're struggling,

931
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Speaker 10: and we've got to protect our farmers, we got to

932
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Speaker 10: protect our military law enforcement during this shut down. But

933
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Speaker 10: you know, the Democrats, they have nothing to hang their

934
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Speaker 10: hat on, and so now they've got something they can Hey,

935
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Speaker 10: you know, we can fight back here. There's something some

936
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Speaker 10: people might agree with us, because nothing else is Very

937
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 10: few Americans agree with the Democratic Party on anything that

938
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Speaker 10: they've done or try to do, or anything that they

939
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Speaker 10: believe in. So we just got to hold on. We

940
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Speaker 10: just got to keep pushing, get President Trump and Scott

941
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Speaker 10: Bessett and the people over in the administration, and opportunity

942
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Speaker 10: to clean out the fat of this bloated government of

943
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Speaker 10: three million government employees. My gosh, I mean, we got

944
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Speaker 10: people that we don't even know get a paycheck, and

945
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Speaker 10: so at the end of the day, we've got to

946
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Speaker 10: clean this mess up.

947
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Speaker 6: Senator Tubberville, it's absolutely a day of some celebrate from

948
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Speaker 6: the Trump side of things.

949
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Speaker 2: Given the ceasefire.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to just get your reaction to what this

951
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Speaker 6: president seems to have accomplished and the satisfaction that I'm

952
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Speaker 6: sure he and many of us get from seeing even

953
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Speaker 6: people who never give Trump anything never give him the

954
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Speaker 6: benefit of the doubt, never give him a fair shot.

955
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Speaker 6: They're even having to say, this is a pretty big

956
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Speaker 6: deal that he has negotiated between Israel and Hamas.

957
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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is huge, and we got to get the

958
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Speaker 10: hostages out. We got to get out of this mess.

959
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Speaker 10: Mike kukkulb Be, the ambassador, Marco Rubio went cough. All

960
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Speaker 10: these they have been working their tails off trying to

961
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Speaker 10: get something done there and also in Ukraine and Russia.

962
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Speaker 10: So hopefully this works out as a twenty point plan.

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Speaker 10: First of all, if we can get the hostages out,

964
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Speaker 10: I mean President Trump has done his job, because that

965
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Speaker 10: is our main goal is get these people loose, get

966
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Speaker 10: them out of these tunnels, these caves, give them some food,

967
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Speaker 10: to get him back to society. This group that we're fighting,

968
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Speaker 10: this Islamic terrorism that we're fighting within a moss. They

969
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Speaker 10: are absolutely trying to destroy that part of the country.

970
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Speaker 10: And by the way, they're coming to a theater near us,

971
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Speaker 10: and we better watch out.

972
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Speaker 1: We're talking to Senator Tommy Tubberville, he's the next governor

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Speaker 1: of Alabama. I know you're in the midst of your

974
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Speaker 1: governor's campaign while also being a senator.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you saw.

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Speaker 1: I did a sit down with Paul Feinbaum, a guy

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Speaker 1: you've known from college football, I imagine for a long

978
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Speaker 1: time in the state of Alabama. He hasn't officially announced,

979
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Speaker 1: but what's your reaction to what kind of candidate Paul

980
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Speaker 1: Feinbaum might be if he ran in the primary to

981
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Speaker 1: potentially be a senator from Alabama?

982
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Speaker 2: What do you know about him? What do you think

983
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Speaker 2: about the idea?

984
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I've been friends with Paul for thirty years and

985
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Speaker 10: even when I was an assistant coach. He's made a

986
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Speaker 10: name for hisself. He's got one hundred percent name idea

987
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 10: in Alabama. I tell him, he's also made everybody mad

988
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Speaker 10: in Alabama at one time, because but that was his job,

989
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 10: you know, making people, you know, a conversation about sports. Now,

990
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 10: he's never been in politics, but neither had I. He

991
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 10: asked me what I thought. I said, well, you know,

992
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 10: if you're going to get into this and I'm not

993
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 10: supporting anybody, that's not my job. I've talked to everybody

994
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 10: that's running from my position, and I said, you know,

995
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 10: you've got to get out there and sell yourself, not

996
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 10: as a media person, but as somebody's gonna represent the

997
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 10: people of Alabama in this country. So I heard your interview,

998
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 10: I've talked to him. I think he's really really looking

999
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 10: into it, and I think that he's about have had

1000
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Speaker 10: it with a lot of things that have gone on

1001
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Speaker 10: in his previous life professionally, and you know, he's an American,

1002
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 10: but he's got to get out and sell the point

1003
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 10: and the fact of am I Trump. He's got to

1004
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 10: be a Trump guy in Alabama. He's got to be conservative,

1005
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 10: and he's got to show and tell people and convince

1006
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Speaker 10: people that that's what he's going to do.

1007
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: You worked in sports as a head coach for a

1008
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Speaker 1: long time, and by the way, you beat Alabama six

1009
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: years in a row as an Auburn coach and got

1010
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Speaker 1: elected in the state of Alabama. So that in and

1011
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: of itself, and you're not going to be the governor

1012
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: now in a state where Alabama is the majority fan base.

1013
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: Auburn's got a great fan base.

1014
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: Two. Paul's for that fed up?

1015
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: I think I'm you can kind of read it in

1016
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: that conversation with Disney and ESPN deciding that they're going

1017
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Speaker 1: to go full left wing. You've been doing sports a

1018
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: long time. Would you ever believe that Disney and ESPN

1019
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: We're going to turn ESPN into another arm of MSNBC.

1020
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: Would you have ever believe that could be possible in

1021
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: the world of sports.

1022
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 10: No, never, could have. Never would have believed it or

1023
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 10: wanted to believe it. And I just can't believe that

1024
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 10: that an entity that big, that touches so many people,

1025
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 10: that has really lived off the American people and true patriotism,

1026
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 10: would go that direction. You know, I worked Mike Patrick

1027
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 10: one year, is his color guy, and now well he

1028
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 10: was the play by play guy in his last year

1029
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 10: for ESPN and ABC, And Uh, I've never seen such

1030
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 10: far left groups in my life. I mean, it was

1031
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 10: just it was just they were that's when Trump first

1032
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 10: got elected, and they it was just a fight from

1033
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 10: the start to the finish when you're around a lot

1034
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 10: of those people that couldn't believe that I was a

1035
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 10: Trump supporter. So at the end of the day, you've

1036
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 10: got different factions in our country. The problem that I'm

1037
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 10: having today is how much does the Democratic Party really

1038
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 10: love this country so they love our constitution. Uh, you know,

1039
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 10: we all have different opinions, but my god, folks, we

1040
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 10: look what they did I'm in the elite eight I was.

1041
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 10: I had my phone stoped by the FBI under the

1042
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 10: Department of Justice, a city United States Senator. You've got

1043
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 10: to be kidding me. So it is, you know, I

1044
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 10: just don't understand it. I really don't of the mindset

1045
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 10: of the people that that are are trying. And I

1046
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 10: think it's uh, their their their way of life is

1047
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 10: they want to change everything that we're doing and go

1048
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 10: to another type of country that We're not going to

1049
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 10: allow that to happen.

1050
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: You've known Paul Feinbaum, you said for thirty years. I

1051
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: understand that you are not going to endorse. This is

1052
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: your seat that's going to be up for grabs. Based

1053
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: on your conversations, do you think he's going to run

1054
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: or do you think he's not going to run?

1055
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 10: I think it's more than he is than he's not.

1056
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 10: And now again, uh, this is a week or so

1057
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 10: ago the last time I talked to him, and and

1058
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 10: I said, Paul, you got to do your due diligence.

1059
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 10: You got to go out. It's got to start making

1060
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 10: phone calls. You've got to talk to people. Don't take

1061
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 10: my word for it. I'm one vote. Uh uh And

1062
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 10: I got an opinion, but you have to go talk

1063
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 10: to people that and try to get two million people

1064
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 10: to vote for you, and uh, there's a lot of

1065
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 10: convention you're going to have to do. But I told

1066
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 10: the same thing to Steve Marshall, Attorney General, the same

1067
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 10: thing to Barry Moore, who's in Congress. It's running for

1068
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 10: this seat. You have got to tell them what you

1069
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 10: stand for, and people got to believe that. You've got

1070
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 10: to be convincing. I did that for a year and

1071
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 10: a half when I was football coach, and I said

1072
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 10: I'm onna run for Senate. I went to every little town,

1073
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 10: every meeting, every farm meeting, and told them, listen, I'm running,

1074
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 10: and this is what I believe in. Forget about coaching,

1075
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 10: just this is what I believe in. And thank goodness,

1076
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 10: I don't think they elected me as coach. They elected

1077
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 10: me for my beliefs and my love for the country.

1078
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Speaker 6: Senator Tuberville. Always appreciate you making the time for us

1079
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 6: here on clan back.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.

1081
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 10: All right, guys, thank you, God bless and.

1082
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 6: Someone of the Towers Foundation honors America's heroes and their families.

1083
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Speaker 6: When tragedy strikes heroes like Scott Abrams. For more than

1084
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Speaker 6: three decades, Scott served his community and country as a

1085
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Speaker 6: United States Marine, a New York City Police detective, and

1086
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Speaker 6: a volunteer firefighter. While he was on his NYPD motorcyclisting

1087
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Speaker 6: the funeral procession of a four year old child, his

1088
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Speaker 6: life changed in an instant. Scott was hit by a bus,

1089
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Speaker 6: crushing four vertebrae in his neck and leaving him partially paralyzed.

1090
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Speaker 6: Scott's recovery was grueling, but through unwavering love, strength and perseverance, Scott,

1091
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Speaker 6: his wife Tera, and their son Joshua made it through

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