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In joining us is 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: one of my favorite people in the industry. He's here 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: to talk about his fantasy football rankings and the players 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: he's drafting and fading. I'm talking about Brad Evans, a 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: co founder of the FTN Network, a Fantasy Sports Riders 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: Association Hall of Famer and a guy obsessed with wavos. Brad, 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: thanks for joining us wavos he gants. 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 4: Indeed, yes, hopefully my waveos will not be sunnyside up 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,279 Speaker 4: come January this NFL season. 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: All right, it's great to have you on the pod. 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: We had you on the pod last year to talk 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: about the guys you were drafting, the guys who were fading, 32 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: so it's a I don't know, it feels poetic in 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: a way to have you back this year for the 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: same episode. We had a fantastic run of shows recently 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: over the past couple of months. 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Gentlemen, let's get into it, Brad. I 57 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: want to start by getting some of your thoughts on 58 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: your rankings process, the stats that you priority ties, how 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: it is that you stack your board and figure out 60 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: what you are prioritizing when you are drafting for twenty twenty. 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 4: Well, I think in these uncertain, unprecedented times, flexibility is paramounts. 62 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: Right. 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: We're collecting as many data points as we can because 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: we don't have any visual evidence outside of like college 65 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 4: tape as some of these rookies or what guys did 66 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: last season. 67 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: So everybody seems to be rosie. 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 4: Everybody seems to be in the best shape of their life, 69 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: even more so than normal. I've seen an obscene amount 70 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 4: of guys shirtless on Twitter this offseason, and I have 71 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: been really adjusting my ranks as a. 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: Result of that. 73 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 4: But it's unusual the circumstances, and you know, all you 74 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: can do is really kind of take coach speak at 75 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: face value, collect those data points, and an adjust on 76 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: the fly until we see some really crappy football, probably 77 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: the first three weeks of the regular season, as a 78 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: lot of these teams try to round in a shape, 79 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: round in a form, and knock off the rust in general. 80 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna advance analytics geek. Admittedly, you know, 81 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: I love yards of a contact per attentp miss. Tackle 82 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: percentage numbers tied say to the running back position. 83 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: I love yak PA. Reception numbers tie to wide receivers. 84 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: Of course, target share, whether overall or inside the red zone. 85 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 3: You know, success rates on certain routes. 86 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 4: You know guys and how they fit into a particular system. 87 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 4: You know, you take all these things into account, you 88 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 4: throw it on a hopper, it spits it out you know, 89 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 4: I don't have any fancy spreadsheets or algorithms. You know, 90 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: I'm a guy that you know, takes stuff, whether in 91 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: in a film view or in an analytics view and 92 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 4: kind of mashes them together. So imagine it like on Thanksgiving. 93 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 4: You know you can sigregate your food. You know, you 94 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 4: got your your potatoes here, you got your turkey here, 95 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: you got your stuff in here. Now, man, I swirled 96 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 4: all together. That's what I do. And then I just 97 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 4: shove it in my pie hole. And that's kind of 98 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: how I look at it when I do ranks as 99 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: well as you know, mashing everything together, shoving in the 100 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: old pie hole, and hopefully whatever comes out of my 101 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: pie hole sticks when I make those prognostications. 102 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 6: So do you have a different approach when it comes 103 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 6: to say, standard versus PKR rankings, Like how do you 104 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 6: manage that? 105 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 7: Well? 106 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: You got to take it on a player by player basis. 107 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: You know, take Derrick Henry for example. I mean, Derrick 108 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 4: Henry is an absolute god of God's in a standard format, 109 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: you know, he's not going to catch a whole lot 110 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: of passes. 111 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: In a PPR. 112 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: Now they're saying, because Darrenton Evans can't hold all the football. 113 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 4: It's not really transitioning smoothly. 114 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: Next level. 115 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 4: Maybe you're gonna see Derrick Henry a little bit more 116 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 4: involved in the past game this season, but you know, 117 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: in a standard setting, you know, double figure touchdowns, probably 118 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: thirteen hundred rush yards right around where his prop is 119 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: right now at various sports books. You know, that could 120 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: be a baseline for him this season, and obviously it 121 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 4: bolsters the bottom line for him in that format, you know, 122 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 4: And if you're just signed between him and like say 123 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: Clyde Edwards Hilaier and it's a PPR format, then I 124 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: would give the advantage to the rookie out of Kansas City, 125 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 4: unless God forbid. 126 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: You know, I know a tape time Leonard Fournette has 127 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: not signed with anybody. 128 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: But just imagine if you wound up in Kansas City 129 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 4: and just rude everybody over who jumped with both cheeks 130 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: firmly planted on the Cech bandwagon. 131 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: So that would be some kind of spectacular development. 132 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: But as it stands right now, no guy like Cech 133 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 4: so I think it, catch sixty sixty five balls in 134 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: the most explosive offense in the NFL, would have a 135 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: leg up on say it, Derrick Henry. So again take 136 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 4: it player by player in terms of determining whether or 137 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: not a player's higher or lower, whether standard or PPR, Hey. 138 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 8: Broan, How about in terms of league size? How does 139 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 8: your approach change based on the different size leagues? 140 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I am CEO team, I have US, 141 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 4: and as a result of that, I play in some 142 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 4: stupid deep leagues. I play in a twenty teamer guys 143 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: with like five bench spots. 144 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: We call it super league. 145 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 4: Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports puts it off as team 146 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 4: reporter for that website. He puts it on every single year, 147 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 4: and it's it's ridict it's cutthroat, it's stupid. I committed 148 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 4: fantasy suicide last year by taking mandatory Montgomery in round two, 149 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: because again, it's a twenty teamer. 150 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: It's like, you gotta get your guys, and if you're 151 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: like eighteen in. 152 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 4: The second round, essentially you're just sitting there like, well, crap, 153 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: there's no way in hell I'm gonna get them in 154 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 4: a round three. 155 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: So let's just go all in. 156 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: Let's put the waybels on the line and see what 157 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: you know shakes out, And obviously it didn't work out 158 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: for your boy last year. But you know, you do 159 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: take a case by case, league by league. You know, 160 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: shallow leagues obviously you're going to rank guys with you know, 161 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: you're gonna take more risks potentially because the depth that's 162 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: out there, chase more ceiling and those instances. Meanwhile, in 163 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: deeper formats and you know, really kind of starts the 164 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 4: dividing lines at fourteen teams, especially if you have a 165 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: flex or you know, if you have a super flex 166 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: in particular, you know, you're looking for guys with very 167 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 4: high floors there. You're looking for more safety, but got 168 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: to risk it to make the biscuit. You know, you 169 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: guys know me, I'm all about making bold calls and 170 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: following through good or bad, and oftentimes, you know bad. 171 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: That's why we name my website FAY the Noise for 172 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: Crying out Loud. 173 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: All right, Brad, let's get into some of your player 174 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: ranking specifically. And you know, on on Twitter, I get 175 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: lots of questions about the top five, Who are you 176 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: taking in the top five, How are you stacking those guys? 177 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: And I'm assuming you know, because you are human, that 178 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: you have Christian McCaffrey as your number one player. But 179 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: after that, how are you stacking your top five just 180 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: overall instead of position? You're talking a top five overall? Yeah, 181 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: just top five guys. 182 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: Well, you know, we're we're kind of in a precarious 183 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 4: position right now because we don't have no idea what 184 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: the hell's going on with Auvin Kamara, right you know, 185 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: is there a holdout? Is there really going to be 186 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 4: a contract dispute? Is this going to bleed into the 187 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: regular season? And you know, I was in a salary 188 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: cap slash auction draft last night. Granted had a super 189 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: flex was a twelve team or heyone's for forty bucks 190 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: and with a two hundred dollars cap, heavily discounted because 191 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 4: people are skittish, and I get it. You know, you 192 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 4: look at the top of the running back ladder ride 193 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: now and there's a lot of questions. Davin Cook may 194 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 4: hold out, Joe Mixon's got hold out slash migrain issues. 195 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: Miles Sanders is week to week with a hamstring injury. 196 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: Kenyan Drake's in a damn boot. I mean, it's gotten ugly. 197 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 4: It's it's full of land mines. The landscape. So right 198 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: now as it stands. You know, it only bolsters the 199 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 4: value of those premium work courses like Christian McCaffrey, like 200 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: a State Kwon Barkley. 201 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: Like Azeke Elliott. 202 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: So you know, I think those guys go one, two, three, 203 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 4: and then it begins to divert. 204 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 7: Right. 205 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: If you're worried about al M Kamara, I'd still go 206 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: number four on him as it stands presently, because you know, 207 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of positive TD regressions going 208 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 4: to occur with him. You know, had less than thirty 209 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: red zone attempts last season, which was on characteristic. He 210 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: was battling and really a warrior's mentality knowing you had 211 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: a kny injury, he had a bad back, he had 212 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 4: a high ankle sprain. 213 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: He still put up great secondary analytics. 214 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: He was top fifteen in the yard type of contact 215 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 4: per attempt, top fifteen and mistackle percentage last season. And 216 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 4: oh yeah, he caught eighty plus balls of the third 217 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 4: consecutive year. So yeah, there's people out there, like worried 218 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 4: about Taysom Hill at Tavius Murray being goal line grimlins. 219 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: But a healthy Alvin Kamara in this offense with an 220 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: elite offensive line, I think it's going to be what 221 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: he was two years ago. I would say minimum a 222 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: dozen touchdowns in total if we see him on the 223 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 4: field and he plays all sixteen games this season, so 224 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 4: knowing that upside, knowing again he got to risk it 225 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 4: to make the biscuit, I go with him at number four, 226 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: and then at number five. 227 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: For me, it's Michael Thomas. 228 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: I've said this before and I'm going to say it again, 229 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: probably next to like Patrick Mahomes, maybe Lamar Jackson. There 230 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 4: isn't another player, and I think it's his floor is 231 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: even higher than Christian McCaffrey. No player in fantasy has 232 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: a higher floor than Michael Thomas. I think it's a 233 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 4: minimum one hundred and twenty catches. The dude is an 234 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 4: absolute monster and he's going to see a boatload of 235 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 4: targets his general direction from oh yeah, still the most 236 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: accurate quarterback in the NFL member Drew Brees was number 237 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: one and adjust a completion percentage last year. 238 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: Sean, I want to kick it to you and get 239 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: your thoughts on Kamara specifically, and then also that top 240 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: five are you stacking it with running backs? Knowing that 241 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: the guys that Brad listed earlier, who have a whole 242 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: bunch of issues that you don't want to have to 243 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: take one of those guys later. What are you doing 244 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: with your top five? 245 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, so my tough five is not all running backs. 246 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 6: Same thing I agree with Brad. I think McCaffrey, Elliott, 247 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 6: and Barkley are the clear number three. And you know, 248 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 6: with Alvin Kamara, I mean as I talk, there might 249 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 6: be news breaking, so who knows, but I have him 250 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 6: as my number four. I think you still take the 251 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 6: number four. But where it gets murky is slought five. 252 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 6: You know, I essentially have Dalvin Cook and Michael Thomas. 253 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 6: Hye when it comes to projections. But I mean, given 254 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 6: that quote by Adam Schefter, not me, Adam Schefter that 255 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 6: said he wouldn't draft Dalvin Cook right now so he 256 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 6: doesn't get a contract for the season starts, I mean 257 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 6: he must know something that we don't, so that gives 258 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 6: me some pause. Again, I probably still would take Dalvin 259 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 6: Cook REALM one if he falls with me, but I 260 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 6: think given that news, I would take Michael Thomas with 261 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 6: pick number five. 262 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 7: If for some. 263 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 6: Reason, do you think you're solid and taking receivers and 264 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 6: you know rounds three through seven, which I think is 265 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 6: the sweet spot. Sure, go ahead and take a Derrick 266 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 6: Henry at slought five. You can do that certainly, or 267 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 6: even wards later, but I think give him the situation 268 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 6: right now. 269 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 7: If Kamara Cook. 270 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 6: Potentially Joe mixin, it does give me some pause with 271 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 6: some of these running backs outside of the top three, 272 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 6: But right now, it's still McCaffrey, Elliott, Barkley, Kamara for me, 273 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 6: and then Michael Thomas at pick number five. 274 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: Right now, Raymon, I have this kind of mentality if 275 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to take a player at the top 276 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: of his tier, and I think that Michael Thomas is 277 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: in a tier with Julio and Tyreek and DeVante Adams. 278 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: So there's like a part of me that just sort 279 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: of resists being the first person to take a wide 280 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: receiver in the draft. And then also, I mean we 281 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: talked about those running backs going in round two. I 282 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: just don't want to have to invest in those guys. 283 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: I want to get a running back in round one 284 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: for the most part. Where are you on Michael Thomas? 285 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 2: Is he in your top five? Yeah? 286 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 8: I think he has to be at this point just 287 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 8: because of the question marks at running back. I think 288 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 8: you can take Thomas's high at four, I still have 289 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 8: Kamara in there, but I'm in the process of kind 290 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 8: of tweaking him and Dalvin games Play projection just because 291 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 8: there is, you know, starting to be some real uncertainty there. 292 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 8: And what that does is, I think in anything but 293 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 8: a full PPR league, I think that's gonna end up 294 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 8: having Derrick Henry in front of those guys. And remember, 295 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 8: Henry is a guy who even in full PPR still 296 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 8: finishes the RB number three last year, only behind Christian 297 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 8: McCaffrey and just behind Aaron Jones. So Derrick Henry, even 298 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 8: with the limited receiving workload, can get it done even 299 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 8: in a full PPR format, And just because he's been 300 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 8: so durable and his workload is so consistent, that may 301 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 8: be the way to go, you know, in all formats. 302 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 8: But I think Thomas is looking kind of like the 303 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 8: number four at this point. I'm giving all the uncertainty 304 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 8: if we're talking about a full PPR. 305 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: All right in the top five, and I agree with 306 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: you guys in terms of that top three, that's a 307 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: really clear tier. I do have Kamara at number four, 308 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: and at number five, I'm still gonna be the fish 309 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: who takes a running back, and it could be Derrick, Henry, 310 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook. For me, it's probably Clyde Edwards Zilayer. There's 311 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: just something about the ceiling of his offense with the 312 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: high floor of his receiving workload that really makes me 313 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: want to invest in him. But I think you really 314 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: can't go wrong if you go with Henry, and if 315 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: you want to be safer, go with Michael Thomas. I 316 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: think that's fine too. Brad. After Michael Thomas, I think 317 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: people are a little bit all over the place in 318 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: terms of the guy that they have at number two. 319 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: It could be DeVante Adams for a lot of people, 320 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: it is it could potentially be tyreek Kill because of 321 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: that offense, because of how explosive he is. And then 322 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: it could also be Julio because it feels like, you know, 323 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: it's always Julio who's in the running to be a 324 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: top to top three Fantasy wide receiver. How do you 325 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: rank those wide receivers after Michael Thomas. 326 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm be going back and forth on this 327 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: really all summer long, because it's a razor blade difference. 328 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: Between some of these guys. 329 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 4: To be honest with you, and really, right now, I've 330 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: got Davante Adams at number two. It's largely a conservative scheme, 331 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 4: at least that's what mettli Clair wants to do. You know, 332 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: everybody is fawning over the godlike thighs of AJ Dillon 333 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: and his John Stockton shorts to accentuate just how thick 334 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 4: those tree trunks are. 335 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: And they are glorious. 336 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 4: But you know, Aaron Jones is still going to be 337 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 4: a big part of this offense, a guy that was 338 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 4: peak efficient inside the red zone last year. 339 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: He got Jamal Williams as well. 340 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: You know, Aaron Rodgers struggled inside the red zone last season, 341 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: and largely because he didn't have Deavonte Adams or a 342 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 4: sizable chunk of the season dealing with a foot injury. 343 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: You know, I think with Adams back, not a whole 344 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 4: lot of competition, and who's going to be the number 345 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: two there is? It gonna be Allen Lazart, is gonna 346 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: be Rcazvaldez, Scantling, is somebody else got a step up 347 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: one of the tight ends, maybe Jace Sternberger, but he's 348 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: not had a standout training camp. 349 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: You know, that is to be determined. 350 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: But Adams is gonna be a targets hog and a 351 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: guy that's probably gonna be well inside the top five 352 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: in the red zone target share come year's end. And 353 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 4: I think he gets back closer where he was two 354 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: years ago when he had thirteen touchdown receptions. You know, 355 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: it could be a bottom line of ten. You know, 356 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: it's high as fifteen. He could set the pace in 357 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: that category. And I said this before and I'm gonna 358 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: say it again. I think Julio, maybe for the second 359 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: time in his NFL career, has ten touchdowns in a season. 360 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 4: You know, you lose Austin Hooper, Yah, Haytenhurst is expected 361 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: to slide into that role. 362 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: We'll see how he performs. 363 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 4: He's got a nice chemistry reportedly with Matt Ryan, but 364 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: you could see an uptick hopefully, you know, fingers and 365 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: toes cross and in zone targets. 366 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: Here. 367 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: For Julio, it's always been vexing to me that he 368 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: has not been utilized more in that capacity. Given his 369 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: leaping ability, his size, his strong hands. It's baffling that 370 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: Julio Jones consistently gets like sixty eight touchdowns a year 371 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: and is not a perennial ten to twelve touchdown guy. 372 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: But you know the volume is going to be there. 373 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 4: Atlanta's defense is rancid. I know everybody's talking up Calvin Ridley. 374 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: I think Calvin Ridley is one of the most overrated 375 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: wide receivers right now in Fantasy at wide receiver fifteen 376 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 4: in terms of average rapt position. So as it stands now, 377 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: it goes number two for me, Devonte Adams, three, Julio 378 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: Jones for DeAndre Hopkins, and then I have Tyreek Hill 379 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 4: actually not at five but at six because my number 380 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: five is Alan Robinson. And it might be because for some reason, 381 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: I believe that Nick Foles may actually be a semi compid. 382 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 4: It could be the best quarterback that Alan Robinson receives 383 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: passes from, going back to his days in college when 384 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 4: he had the god awful Matt mcgloy and Christian Hackenberg 385 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 4: throwing a wounded. 386 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: Ducks Sean, where are you on those wide receivers? 387 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 6: So obviously you know I have them all right next 388 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 6: to each other, that they're my tier two. I have 389 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 6: Michael Thomas a clear tier ahead of them, so you 390 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 6: can't go wrong with either. I would say, you know, 391 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 6: half peep are and standard. I would lean Tyreek. I've 392 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 6: said it time and time again. Anytime I can invest 393 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 6: in the Chiefs offense, I do. I just think, you know, 394 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 6: the ceiling for them is a record breaking season. So 395 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 6: that's why I leaned Tyreek. But you can't go wrong 396 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 6: with DeVante. If it's a PPR, I'm absolutely going Davante 397 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 6: over Tyreek. And then Julio's you know, he's right there. 398 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 6: I may disagree with Brad. I think that Calvi Ridley 399 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 6: is a is in a smash spot this year, so 400 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 6: I'm getting a ton of him, you know, around four. 401 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 6: So typically I pass on Julio just because I know 402 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 6: I'm probably gonna get Ridley. But you know, you really 403 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 6: can't go wrong with any of these three, especially at 404 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 6: this point in the draft. We already mentioned that, you know, 405 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 6: a guy like Kenyan Drake is already in a walking boot. 406 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 6: Mile Sanders is dealing with the handy injury, so you know, 407 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 6: give him the uncertainty. With all these running backs in 408 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 6: this range, I've been drafting, you know, one of these 409 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 6: tier two receivers a little bit more often, but again, 410 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 6: you can't go wrong with either one. And when it 411 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 6: comes to Julio, I am not banking on a ten 412 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 6: touchdown season. 413 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 7: I gave up on that a few years ago. 414 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 6: I think I think it's clear he's you know, I'm 415 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 6: projecting in for two thousand yards and five touchdowns per usual, 416 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 6: so I'm joking on it. It's like four candy yards 417 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 6: and six touchdowns. But I think that it's just for 418 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 6: whatever reason, he's more of a decoy when it comes 419 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 6: to the red zone. 420 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 7: And that's one of the reasons why I do like 421 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 7: Calvin Ridley Raybond. 422 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: How are you stacking Adams Tyreek in Julio? 423 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 8: I like, I like Tyreek number two just because I project, 424 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 8: you know, top down, so quarterbacks are always the most predictable, 425 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 8: so I like to start there, and that gives Julio, 426 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 8: I mean, excuse me, Tyreka an edge over the other 427 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 8: two guys. But I think Julio is is right there 428 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 8: at number three. I actually have DeVante number four, just 429 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 8: because I think there are some concerns about, you know, 430 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 8: that Green Bay offense. How much will they throw? How 431 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 8: good will Aaron Rodgers be? Whereas you know, the Falcons, 432 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 8: regardless of Calvin, really kind of factors in or not, 433 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 8: you know, to you know, kind of becoming that true 434 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 8: one a the Falcons we the league in past attempts 435 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 8: by a huge margin. 436 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 5: They have a shaky defense. 437 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 8: So I like Julio's kind of consistency, his ability to 438 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 8: you know, year in year out, it's it's one thousand, 439 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 8: three hundred ninety four yards or more for. 440 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 5: The past six years. You can't really go wrong with that. 441 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 8: So I wouldn't even be mad at anyone for taking 442 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 8: Julio number two. But for me, it's Tyreek Julio, then 443 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 8: Devonte number four, then Hopkins number four, and Kenny Golladay 444 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 8: is actually getting closer and closer for me because Matthew 445 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 8: Stafford in that new scheme with Darryl Bevel throwing down 446 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 8: a field eight out of ten point six, and that's 447 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 8: going to help Gallady kind of creep up on a 448 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 8: guy like Hopkins, who, let's remember last year averages eleven 449 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 8: point three yards per reception. You know, Gallady is probably 450 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 8: going to be in that fifteen to sixteen range. 451 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 5: So it could be a little closer than people think. 452 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: All right, Rayvon, you mentioned you wouldn't blame anyone for 453 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: having Julio at number two. I have Julio at number two, 454 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: and I'm with Brad maybe ten touchdowns seems like a reach, 455 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: but I think it's within the range of outcomes. And 456 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: although he hasn't done it, and you know what feels 457 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: like a decade, I think he always has a shot 458 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: to get there because of the yardage and because of 459 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: how explosive he is. So I have Julio number two, 460 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: Tyreek number three, and then DeVante number four, and it's 461 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: really nothing against you know, DeVante, you know versus Tyreek. 462 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: I just I prefer that that chiefs offense. Coming up, 463 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: we're going to run through the players weird rafting and 464 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 2: fading the most. But first, a quick word from our 465 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: friends at the Locked On Podcast Network. 466 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 9: Hope you're enjoying this great action network podcast. 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Subscribe to your locked on podcast. 476 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's get into the players that at 477 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: each position we are really investing in and we are 478 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: really looking to stay away from. So Brad, I'm talking about, 479 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: you know, like the quarterback you have invested in the most, 480 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: the guy who is probably most out of line with 481 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 2: his ADP in your rankings, and then the quarterback you 482 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: have none of, the guy you just don't don't want in, 483 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: the guy that if people are looking at your rankings, 484 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: they're just not going to get any of in their 485 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: fantasy drafts. 486 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's start with the guy that got a man 487 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: crush on, and it's a guy that I've come one 488 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 4: to eighty on around and that is Daniel Jones the 489 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 4: New York Giants. Look, Daniel Jones is one of those 490 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: scoring duelists out there in fantasyland, and you know always 491 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: raises the floor overall a player. Last season twenty eight 492 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 4: combined touchdowns. Yet he struggled behind a shoddy offensive line 493 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: with a lot of turnover issues, and that could be 494 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: an issue, but that really doesn't hurt you too bad. 495 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 4: It's a slight pinch on your fantasy profile. And you know, 496 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 4: this is a guy that's got I think a better 497 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 4: than advertised weaponry around him with Sterling Shepard and gold 498 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 4: of Tate and Evan Ingram and Darius Slayton, who he 499 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 4: made beautiful music with down the stretch last season, and 500 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 4: the Giants defense is in the running for the league's worst. 501 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 4: That's secondary is an absolute punchline. You know, DeAndre Baker 502 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 4: no longer part of this franchise with his issues off 503 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 4: the field. You lose Xavier McKinney for a couple of 504 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: months due to injury. I mean they're already hurt and 505 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 4: they were bad to begin with. So you know, I 506 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 4: think that only you know raises the possibility of Daniel 507 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: Jones could be north of four thousand passing yards ago 508 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: with three hundred and fifty on the ground, and I 509 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: think he's gonna approach thirty combined touchdowns. He's got an 510 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 4: ADP of QB fourteen and I got him right now 511 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 4: at QB eight, So I'm gonna getting my hands on 512 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 4: him wherever I can. 513 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: And a guy I'm. 514 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 4: Staying away from his Lamar Jackson. You know, look, it's 515 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: really hard to repeat as king of any position in fantasy, 516 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 4: and his efficiency numbers were otherworldly last season inside the 517 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 4: red zone, and I don't know if he can replicate 518 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 4: that success. Now you know, of course, because of the 519 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 4: scoring duality, he's a player that's going to be very valuable. 520 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 4: But you know, you look at some of the sportsbooks 521 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 4: that are out there anywhere between nine to nineteen to 522 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 4: nine seventy five point five as a rush yards line, and. 523 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 10: People are like, over obliterated. Take out a second mortgage. 524 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 10: I'm all over it, but injuries happen. I think adding JK. 525 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 10: Dobbins to the mix they want to try to alleviate 526 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 10: some of the pressure of Lamar Jackson running the football. 527 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 10: I don't know if you know Baltimore is going to 528 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 10: have him take a large chunk of the thirty seven 529 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 10: point two rushing attempts per game that he logged last 530 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 10: season in terms of the team. 531 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: And him getting a lot of that work. But I'm 532 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: stepping back. 533 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: I can't justify taking a round two around three. If 534 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: I'm going early on quarterback, it's Patrick Mahomes, who I 535 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: think is going to throw for at least forty touchdowns 536 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 4: this season. Otherwise I wait on the position and get 537 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: somebody else later on, like an afore mentioned Daniel Jones. 538 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: You're getting well after pick one hundred and average drafts. 539 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: Sean, who are you most invested in in most fading 540 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: at the quarterback position. 541 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 6: I would say most invested as Russell Wilson. And you know, 542 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 6: I typically avoid drafting a quarterback early. I think there's 543 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 6: so many options outside of the top twelve, and I 544 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 6: think streaming is going to be incredibly. 545 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 7: Viable this year. 546 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 6: But the one guy that I end up getting when 547 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 6: I do draft a quarterback early, which you know, would 548 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 6: be round six or seven, as Russell Wilson. You know, 549 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 6: if I'm in a lot of expert drafts, everybody's on 550 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 6: the fade quarterback baywagon, so you can usually get him 551 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 6: even later. And you know, when I take Russe Wilson, 552 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 6: I'm expecting Pete Carroll to you know, limit his passing 553 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 6: attempts to close to five hundred like we've seen the 554 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 6: past couple of seasons and him still putting up top 555 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 6: five numbers. But there is the potential that hashtag let 556 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 6: Russ Cook does happen this year, and I think that 557 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 6: in that situation, he is pushing Tier one numbers, so 558 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 6: that I think with Russelson, you have that baked in upside. Again, 559 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 6: I'm not banking on it. I'm banking on five hundred 560 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 6: attep Russelson and that's still pretty good. So that's that's 561 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 6: why of all the quarterbacks that go in that range, 562 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 6: Russe Wilson is what I have the most exposure to. 563 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 6: And when it comes to guys that you know I'm fading, 564 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 6: that would probably Aaron Rodgers just based on his ADP. 565 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 6: He's still going inside the top twelve and a lot 566 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 6: of drafts and you know, we've talked about length, you 567 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 6: know how the Packers really haven't done anything to help him. 568 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 6: We've seen his rushing ability to declient and that's been 569 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 6: one of his you know, the things that he's provided 570 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 6: over the years is he had the sneaky rushing upside. 571 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 6: But so many quarterbacks offering that and him on the decline, 572 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 6: there's really no upside in taking Rogers inside the top twelve. Again, 573 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 6: there's so many guys outside of the top twelve that 574 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 6: I think are worth a flyer or we're gonna have 575 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 6: the ability to stream in season. So Air Rodgers I 576 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 6: have almost no shares of, which is pretty crazy. 577 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: Rat Ball, And who are you investing in and who 578 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: are you fading? At the quarterback position? 579 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 5: Most invested probably Joe Burrow. 580 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 8: If you look back at the guys drafted first overall 581 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 8: that started, you know, fourteen or more games, they've had 582 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 8: a medium finish with QB ten over the last decade. 583 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 5: So I really like Burrow. 584 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 8: I like the fact that that Bengal defense is not 585 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 8: going to be great, and so you're gonna you're gonna 586 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 8: see a quarterback that's probably gonna throw it around and 587 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 8: he can run too. He's one of the most efficient 588 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 8: running quarterbacks in college football. Daniel Jones. I have a 589 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 8: ton of as well, just because I want to be 590 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 8: exposed to guys who can run. Just because if you 591 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 8: look at the top six and Josh Allen included, to 592 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 8: really the top seven, all of them add points with 593 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 8: their legs to varying degrees, and to try to beat 594 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 8: that over the course of a season, you're gonna need 595 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 8: that rushing upside. So Jones, Burrow, Gardner, Minshew's a guy 596 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 8: get waid a lot, and of the pocket passers, Matthew 597 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 8: Stafford is a guy that that I'm investing in at 598 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 8: like where he goes and guys I'm fading, Yeah, Aaron 599 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 8: Rodgers and I don't get too much of the of 600 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 8: the top six guys either, especially Kyra Murray at his 601 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 8: ADP sadly, I think he goes sometimes he goes before 602 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 8: some of the other guys in the top six, and 603 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 8: I prefer Watson and Dak and uh and Russ over him. 604 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: Rabon, I'm with you on the guys. You're fading all 605 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: of the top six, I'd say you, especially with Brad 606 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. I like him, but I just don't want 607 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 2: to have to have to pay up for him. And 608 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: if I'm looking to stack, that's maybe a situation in 609 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: which I would possibly draft one of those quarterbacks early. 610 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: But I just prefer to be stacking, you know, the 611 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: guys on Kansas City instead of the guys on Baltimore. 612 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: Uh So, I'm I'm fading really all those quarterbacks in 613 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: the top six. And Raywan, you mentioned the rushing upside 614 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: of the top six, and that really is one of 615 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: the main reasons to be investing in those guys if 616 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: you're going to do it. I feel like with Cam 617 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: Newton you can get that rushing upside without having to 618 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: spend that draft capital. And so Newton is the guy 619 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: I'm most invested in. Honestly, I'm surprised that his ADP 620 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: hasn't gotten higher, And I think it's just people who 621 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 2: are worried about what happened at the end of twenty 622 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: eighteen when he really tailed off and then missed the 623 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: last two games, and then obviously worried about what happened 624 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen when he played two games clearly wasn't 625 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: himself and then missed the rest of the season. And 626 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: you know, maybe people are unsure about how he's going 627 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: to transition from the Carolina offense to the Patriots offense. 628 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: But I mean, I want as much Cam Newton as 629 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: I can have, So he's the guy at the quarterback 630 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: position that I am easily the most invested in. Brad, 631 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: I want to kick it to you for running backs, 632 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: the guys who are most invested in and the guys 633 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: you are most actively fading. Well, yeah, a guy I'm 634 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: most invested in is Chris Carson. 635 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 4: You know, a return to practice this week getting a 636 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 4: few SI from Pete Carroll. And he never does that, guys, like, never, 637 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 4: never does a PD sunshine just throw a praise about anybody. No, 638 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 4: And obviously I'm being sarcastic there, he does that all 639 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 4: the damn time. But Chris Carson, you know, another one 640 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 4: of those advanced analytics darlings. A guy that was top 641 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: ten in yards to contact per attempt last season, top 642 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: ten and misstackle percentage, top ten in yards created per 643 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 4: touch just gets. 644 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: The job done. 645 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: Is a battering ram. You know, you worry some people like, 646 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 4: well what about the hit man, Well he didn't have surgery, 647 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 4: and you know, by all accounts he's one hundred percent healthy, 648 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 4: good to go. And this is going to be a 649 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 4: conservative offensive scheme. You know, you do have dk Metcalfe, 650 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 4: do we have Tyler Lockett there? They have about ten 651 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 4: thousand tight ends on roster. But this team is still 652 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 4: going to run early and often, and largely on the 653 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 4: legs of Chris Carson. 654 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: I'm not worried about Carlos hot I'm not worried about 655 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: rookie DJ Dallas taking much of the workload. 656 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be another twelve hundred yards and 657 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 4: close to ten touchdowns for him this season. And then 658 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 4: the guys I'm avoiding, obviously Todd Gurley because he's got 659 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 4: an arthritic and I want nothing to do with a 660 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: degenerative need a running back. And you know, I understand 661 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 4: Atlanta's a favorable team to be on. You know, they 662 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 4: had a top fifteen offensive line in terms of run 663 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: blocking efficiency last season. Gonna live inside the red zone, 664 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: gonna put in a bunch of numbers on the scoreboard, 665 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 4: but you know he's going inside the top twenty the 666 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: running back position, and there are risks, major risks attached there. 667 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 4: And we've seen his secondary analytics really deteriorate here the 668 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 4: last couple of seasons. They were masked last season by 669 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 4: the fact that they had fourteen touchdowns. You know, I 670 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 4: think it could be Stephen Jackson, the sequel guys all 671 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: over again, just like Jackson was with the Saint Louis Rams, 672 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 4: then he went to Atlanta. He was older, he fell 673 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 4: off the I think Todd Gurley could suffer a similar 674 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 4: fate with Dirk Cutter. You know, another piece of connective 675 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 4: tissue there calling the shots for this Atlanta franchise. I 676 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: want nothing to do with Gurley. And I'm also not 677 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 4: touching Melvin Gordon either. Lavier in Denver. I think Gordon's 678 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 4: gonna get probably sixty five percent of the workload. But 679 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 4: another guy who we're seeing a road right before our eyes, 680 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: whether with the eye test whether with the numbers underneath 681 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: the surface, and you've got, you know, a thousand yard 682 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 4: back to back, thousand yard rusher breathing down your neck 683 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 4: there and Phillip lindsay, so love me some Carson avoiding 684 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 4: those those old krusty running backs, and Gordon and Todd Gurley. 685 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: John who do you like and who you stayed away from? 686 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 6: So for most invested, it's tough to say anybody you 687 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 6: know ranked inside the top twenty five because I think 688 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 6: that you know, your draft order usually dictates what running 689 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 6: backs you even have exposure to, so I'm pretty spread 690 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 6: out among those guys. So my two most invested running 691 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 6: backs are Zach Moss and Boston Scott. A lot of 692 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 6: it has to do with like the ability to get 693 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 6: them way later. You have way more control over those 694 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 6: types of backs, But those are the type of running 695 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 6: backs that I do like to get later, where you 696 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 6: know I would conservative the backups heading into week one, 697 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 6: but you know they probably don't even need the starting 698 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 6: running back to get hurt to see flex value. Their 699 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 6: role is probably big enough and they're in an offense 700 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 6: that can warrant that. But they both have high end 701 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 6: RB two upside. If this arger were to get hurt. 702 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 6: So that's that's why those are the two type backs 703 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 6: I've been gravitating to later in the draft. But I 704 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 6: will say that Zach Moss is going way too early now, 705 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 6: so I've been kind of backing off on him. 706 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 7: I think the hype with him is maybe a little 707 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 7: bit out of control. 708 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 6: But you know, earlier on when you were able to 709 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 6: get him beyond round ten, I think that's when I 710 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 6: was loading up on him. But you know, be careful. 711 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 6: You don't want to be drafting him around seven because 712 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 6: there is some some risk and taking guy that you 713 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 6: might not be starting every week. So just a word 714 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 6: of cash on that. But those are my top to 715 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 6: own running backs and then the ones that I'm avoiding. 716 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 6: I mean, Brad mentioned two of them, but it's it's 717 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 6: that whole or was that Todd Gurley, Leonard Fournette and 718 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 6: Melvin Gordon. Le'Veon belt here already dodge a bolt with Fournette, 719 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 6: but you know they're going at a point in the 720 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 6: draft where you're kind of just you know, panicking because 721 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 6: you don't have the resected running back and they start 722 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 6: to go pretty fast. 723 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 7: So you take one of these guys, but. 724 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 6: They're really going in a position you should be drafting 725 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 6: wide receiver because I think that part of the draft 726 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 6: is really loaded and they all have various concerns, and 727 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 6: Brad mentioned it, but I would say Melvin Gordon is 728 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 6: the first running back off the board where you can't 729 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 6: really say that he's gonna be the starting running back 730 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 6: the entire season, even when healthy. I am a bit 731 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 6: worried about Philip Lindzai And once you start having questions 732 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 6: mark question marks like that, you don't really want to 733 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 6: be dressing that like that round four that that is 734 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 6: the frozen pond conundrum. So that's the tier I've been avoiding, 735 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 6: like I said, already avoided a landmine. 736 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 7: Leonard Fournette. 737 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: All right, Raymond, who are you investing and who are 738 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: you divesting? Yeah? 739 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 8: I totally agree with the with the fade with Sean 740 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 8: and you know those those running backs in the in 741 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 8: that third fourth round, you've got to be taking wide 742 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 8: receivers there or Mark Andrews a guy take a out there. 743 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 8: So and then yeah, like it's hard to get any 744 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 8: too much of any one guy in the first or 745 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 8: second round. But guys, wait, I take a out of 746 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 8: our same thing with Moss before his adp rows. 747 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 5: Tony Pollard is a guy get a lot. 748 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 8: I think there's a chance that they use him a 749 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 8: little like Time Montgomery back in back in Green Bay 750 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 8: with McCarthy, Alexander Madison, just because we've had this uncertainty 751 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 8: with Dalvin Cook and Withavious Murray. Just kind of the 752 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 8: guys that you know, right on that precipice of blowing 753 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 8: up if the starter goes down. I also get some 754 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 8: Darrnton Evans. I know there's been kind of conflicting reports 755 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 8: in camp, but there's really nobody else behind him in Tennessee, 756 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 8: and you know, there's a lot of running back carries 757 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 8: to go. 758 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 5: Around if Derrick Henry were to go down. 759 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 8: So just really trying to stack up on guys who 760 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 8: maybe not right now, but you know a little bit 761 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 8: further into the season could blow up. And then as 762 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 8: far as the rookies, JK. Dobbins has been one that 763 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 8: I've been getting a lot of as well, just because 764 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 8: I think they were actively trying to monitor mark Ingram's work. 765 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 8: Well last year he hardly ever even cleared fifteen carries. 766 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 8: He was always like right in this that that range, 767 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 8: and so you know, I think Dobbins has a chances 768 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 8: based on how talented he is to really kind of 769 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 8: see told her that that backfield and even made Ingram 770 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 8: the the one b so I get a out of 771 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 8: him too. 772 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: I agree with you on a lot of the running 773 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 2: backs in rounds three and four I'm wanting to avoid. 774 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 2: But the one guy, if I'm investing in a running 775 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: back in that range that I'm getting, I'm getting a 776 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: lot of him is James Connor. And you know, months 777 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: ago you could get him in round four. Now he's 778 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: you know, kind of bumped up to the top of 779 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 2: round three in a lot of a lot of sharper drafts. Uh. 780 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 2: And so I'm still taking him there if I'm wanting 781 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 2: a running back, but I you know, he's he's not 782 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: as much of a value as he used to be, 783 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: but he is the guy I'm probably most invested in 784 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 2: in that range. And then a guy a couple of 785 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: rounds later that I'm just unreasonably invested in, uh is 786 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: cam Akers and it has you know, the reason is 787 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: a lot of what Brad talked about why we would 788 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 2: want to fade Todd Gurley, even though Gurley was you 789 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 2: know degenerative need. Last year, he was still getting a 790 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 2: lot of production within that RAMS offense, and I think 791 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 2: a lot of that this year is going to go 792 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: to Acres. Just based on the recruitment status that he 793 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 2: had as a five star recruit entering college, the production 794 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 2: he had at Florida State, even though he was running 795 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 2: behind one of the worst offensive lines in all of 796 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 2: college football. The fact that he's young right, only twenty 797 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: one years old as a rookie, the fact that he 798 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: is fantastically athletic over two hundred and fifteen pounds but 799 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: ran a sub four point five forty times. I think 800 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 2: he's good enough as a receiver to be a three 801 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: down back within that offense. So he is someone I 802 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: am really actively going after. You know, sometimes you could 803 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 2: get him in rounds seven, even rounds eight a couple 804 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: of months ago. You can't get him there now, But 805 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 2: in rounds five, round six, I still like cam Akers. 806 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 2: So he is really the guy that I'm going after 807 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 2: the most. And again just want to emphasize this part. 808 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 2: The running backs in rounds three and four, for the 809 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 2: most part not all that into them. Also, the running 810 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: backs going in that eight to fourteen range at the position, 811 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 2: especially Aaron Jones. I think, you know, AJ Dillon and 812 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: his magnificent tree trunks might end up stealing just enough 813 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 2: touchdowns to make Aaron Jones a little less investable. The 814 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 2: one guy in that RB eight to RB fourteen range 815 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: I do like is Austin Eckler. But in general, I'm 816 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: staying away from a lot of those running backs RB 817 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 2: eight to RB fourteen brand wide receivers. Who do you 818 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 2: like and who you're staying away from? 819 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 3: There's a couple of guys I really like. 820 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 4: Two guys that are being drafted as wide receiver for 821 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 4: threes that are rather inexplicable to me. Michael Gallup of 822 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys mainly comes to mind. A guy top 823 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 4: twenty and so many advanced analytics categories. Last season, you know, 824 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy has come out and said he's a true 825 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 4: blue number one. You know what Amari Cooper is. We 826 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 4: call him the Cooper Cooper for a reason because it 827 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 4: doesn't smell like Pope ma Rie. Every single week it's up, down, 828 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 4: it's up, it's down. He is a roller coaster ride 829 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 4: of inconsistency. I want nothing to do with him, so 830 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 4: obviously I would divest from all shares of Amari Cooper 831 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 4: and if you want to invest in a Dallas Cowboys 832 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 4: wide receiver, and no, I'm not seeing Ceedee Lamb. No, 833 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily buying into the Blake Jarwin hype. I 834 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 4: think it's going to be Michael Gallup, who you know again, 835 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 4: I think it's going to build off last season and 836 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 4: he only had a fifty eight point nine catch percentage. 837 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 4: This offense is going to be humming and they're going 838 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 4: to be scoreboard chasing as well, because the defense is 839 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 4: rather horrendous on paper. Losing Jerald McCoy here in training 840 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 4: camp as well. Tyler Boyd's another guy that I really 841 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 4: like as well for Cincinnati. You know, I agree with 842 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 4: what Raybond was saying about Joe Burrow. I think Joe 843 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 4: Burrow is a minimum top fifteen quarterback this season. That 844 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 4: guy is the coolest cat around, you know, whether it's 845 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 4: smoking celebratory cigars post championship, you know, hanging out at 846 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 4: the White House reading his phone. I mean, he just 847 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 4: does it all man, and he just does it smoothly, 848 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 4: and you know in his delivery on the feat has 849 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 4: been unbelievable. Bill Callahan had a quote two weeks ago 850 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 4: that blew my mind. In training camp, he told Joe Burrow, Yo, 851 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 4: slow down, you're going too fast and advancing the playbook. 852 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 4: These other guys aren't caught up. I mean, that's how 853 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 4: advanced he is. Cerebrally, He's absorbed this entire thing. He 854 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 4: already knows the playbook like the back of his hand. 855 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 4: I think it's all contingent on the health of AJ Green, 856 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 4: and then Boyd is going to get his no matter what. 857 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 4: In fact, with AJ Green in the lineup, historically, he's 858 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 4: been better, more productive from a fantasy perspective. And you know, 859 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 4: having now a very accurate quarterback if you can make 860 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 4: all fields throws. And just like Raybondsen, that defense being 861 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 4: overly forgiving is only going to increase the opportunities for 862 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 4: Tyler Boyd to cash. 863 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 3: So again, a void Tomari Cooper, I would. 864 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 4: Definitely buy in a Michael Gallup and also Tyler Boyd. 865 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 4: And then you know, look at some of the other 866 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 4: wide receivers that are out there that I'm not real 867 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 4: high on. 868 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 3: You know, I mentioned Calvin Ridley. 869 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 4: I know a lot of people think it's going to 870 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 4: be a smash spot, but I want to see, you know, 871 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 4: if that target share can increase, because I'm not necessarily 872 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 4: convinced that's going to be the case, especially if Hayden 873 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 4: Hurst delivers on all fronts. So I would say, you know, 874 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 4: pump the brakes. Don't overspend on Calvin Ridley. You know 875 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 4: you can get him at like wide receiver twenty one, 876 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 4: twenty two, fine, but at wide receiver fifteen too rich 877 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 4: for my blood. And then a couple of other guys. 878 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 4: I'm also heavily invested in Courtland Sutton. I live in Denver. 879 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 4: He's been unstoppable in training camp. It's all about Drew 880 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 4: Lock and whether he can produce and Devonte Parker. And 881 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 4: I know Parker has been dealing with some injury, but 882 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 4: Ryan Fitzpatrick's going to be the starting quarterback I think 883 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 4: for at least ten games this season. 884 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 3: Two was not ready. 885 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 4: He's not looked at great so far in training camp 886 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 4: in terms of executing the system. So, you know, I 887 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 4: think Devonte Parker people like, oh, well that was a mirage, 888 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 4: that was an anomaly last year. Yeah, he may take 889 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 4: a slight step back. And I'm not worried about Preston Williams, 890 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 4: who was terribly inefficient last season. Miami is gonna throw 891 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 4: a lot, and Devonte Parker was fabulous and catestic catch situations. 892 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 4: He was also very efficient inside the red zone as well, 893 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 4: and I think that's going to transfer nicely to twenty twenty. 894 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 2: All right, Sean, who are you investing in a and 895 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 2: who are you fading? 896 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 6: The guys that have the most exposure too are number 897 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 6: one Calvern Lee, and a lot of that has to 898 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 6: do with starting drafts in May. I mean I was 899 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 6: getting him in round five most of the time. If 900 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 6: he's gone in round three, I'm probably not reaching for him, 901 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 6: to be honest, I think round four it still makes 902 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 6: a ton of sense. But I have a lot of 903 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 6: him from earlier in the draft season, but lately I've 904 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 6: been getting quite a bit of Terry McLaurin as well. 905 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 6: I just think he goes to just a perfect spot 906 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 6: in the draft. So if he falls around six, I'm 907 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 6: getting him every time. When Kelvin Harmon went down, I 908 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 6: think it just means that his target share is going 909 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 6: to be massive, and I am expecting Haskins to have 910 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 6: a your two lead. But I think with the Alex 911 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 6: Smith news, it kind of raises mclaurin's floor, because if 912 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 6: Haskins bombs that much, they could put in Alex Smith. 913 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 6: I mean, we've self to honor his health, but I 914 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 6: think that does give him at least a competent backup quarterback. 915 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 6: So that makes it a little bit safer to draft maclaurin. 916 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 6: And then the other guy that I'm getting way later 917 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 6: in the draft. I just think that he's clearly the 918 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 6: Packers number two as Alan was our you know, I 919 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 6: consider him bench depth, but he does have a good 920 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 6: high Florence ceiling combo, so I think where he's going 921 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 6: in the draft way later. You know, I do like 922 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 6: to take risks when it comes to my bench, but 923 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 6: I think he does offer just solid bench depth, especially 924 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 6: this season where I think it is going to be key. 925 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 7: I think Brad. 926 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 6: Matchett earlier, you know, to have flexibility and your bench 927 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 6: is going to be a little bit more important this year. 928 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 6: So I think having Alec Bizar is going to be 929 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 6: crucial for a season like this. And when it comes 930 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 6: to guys that I'm fading, I would say I'm fading him, 931 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 6: but I think that I probably just have Hopkins a 932 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 6: tier lower than most people. I consider him to be 933 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 6: part of the Kenny Galladay Chris Godwin tier, whereas I 934 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 6: think a lot of people have him closer to the Tyreek, 935 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 6: DeVante Adams, Julioick tier, which I think those guys are 936 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 6: clearly better. So he's kind of been no man's land 937 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 6: for me, and I'm just not getting him many of 938 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 6: my drafts. 939 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 7: I just think he's going to make. 940 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 6: The Cardinals offense better, not the Cardinals offense making him better. 941 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 6: I think he's what he is, you know, I don't 942 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 6: really see him getting more than eight touchdown, so he's 943 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 6: He's not a guy that I'm getting a ton of 944 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 6: in drafts for that reason, and at Alan Robinson I 945 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 6: mentioned him last podcast. I just think that last season, 946 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 6: his ninety eight catch, you know, eleven hundred and fifty yard, 947 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 6: seven touchdown season is basically this ceiling in this offense, 948 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 6: and I don't think it really matters whether it's Nick 949 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 6: Foles or Mitch Trubisky that wins the job. 950 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 7: I think he's he's capped based on this offense. 951 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 6: And I went a more than length last episode, but 952 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 6: just a lot of the context of why his target 953 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 6: share is so massive is a bit different this year, 954 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 6: So I consider him more of a you know, a 955 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 6: high to mid range wide receiver two, but a lot 956 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 6: of my drafts people consider him a low wide receiver. 957 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 7: One. I'm just not willing to take him there, Raybon. 958 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 2: Who do you love and who do you hate? 959 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 5: So? 960 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 8: I like a lot of the kind of boring, un 961 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 8: sexy guys that have, you know, either consistent offenses or 962 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 8: good quarterback production that people kind of sleep on. Uh So, 963 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 8: Cooper Cup is a guy I get a ton of 964 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 8: Robert Woods. 965 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 5: Tyra Lockett. I love him. 966 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 8: He's kind of like the poor Man's Breeze Thomas in 967 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 8: terms of efficiency. 968 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 5: But people are worried about his targets. 969 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 8: Part of the reason he doesn't get a lot of 970 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 8: targets because he's so efficient with him, you. 971 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 5: Know, getting Chuck plays. 972 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 8: So you know, he's a guy that if his targets 973 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 8: just blow up a little bit, you know he'll be 974 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 8: right there in that conversation, you know, for a high 975 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 8: end wide receiver. One. 976 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 5: UH love Marquise Brown for a breakout year. 977 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 8: I love taking Will Fuller as my you know, number 978 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 8: four wide receiver if he if I can get him 979 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 8: that late and I already have three because I think 980 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 8: he's he's got a chance to be He's likely going 981 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 8: to be the number one for Watson. He's the only 982 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 8: guy that really has that chemistry with him among you know, 983 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 8: the top targets, So getting a ton of him, and 984 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 8: then late late, I'm getting a lot of Steven Simms Junior. 985 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 8: He's the guy who started in Washington over the last 986 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 8: four weeks and average nine targets, average a touchdown per 987 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 8: game over the last four games. Quote four, five, six, 988 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 8: and five balls and listen, Washington. They don't even have 989 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 8: a tight end Adrian Peterson. If he's gonna start running back, 990 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 8: he doesn't catch passes like these targets have to go 991 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 8: somewhere besides mclauren and Steven Simms been having a good camp. 992 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 8: Kind of a guy that's going to be I think 993 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 8: on a field almost every place. So getting a lot 994 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 8: of him and guys I'm fading. It's kind of that 995 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 8: that Hopkins Godwin, with the exception of Galladay. You know 996 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 8: that Hopkins Godwin, Evans, Alan Robinson, Amari Cooper Tier, you 997 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 8: know nothing totally against those guys that I do agree that, 998 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 8: you know, Cooper att is going to have some inconsistencies, 999 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 8: but it's just that the value at that point it 1000 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 8: is not quite there. I'd rather get either, you know, 1001 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 8: one of the lower end of that that running back 1002 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 8: tier before it drops off, or get like a Mark 1003 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 8: Andrews or something. 1004 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 5: So I'm kind of staying away from those. 1005 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 2: Guys rabon so much disrespect to Logan Thomas in Washington. 1006 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 2: I mean, come on saying they don't have a tight end. 1007 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 5: I mean it's ugly. 1008 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 2: It's ugly there, all right. So the wide receiver I 1009 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 2: am easily most invested in is DeShawn Jackson, and I 1010 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 2: think of him as a version of Will Fuller, except 1011 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 2: obviously much much older. You know, he's in an offense 1012 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 2: that could provide him with a good number of opportunities, 1013 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 2: especially now with Jalen Rager injured and we don't know 1014 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 2: what's going to happen with him. Alshon Jeffery, we don't 1015 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 2: know really when he's going to be coming back. There 1016 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 2: could just be a lot of opportunities for Deshaun Jackson. 1017 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 2: And as long as he can stay healthy. I know 1018 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 2: that's a big if, but if he gives us thirteen games, 1019 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 2: and I think there's a pretty decent chance he does that, 1020 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 2: If he gives us thirteen games, he I think has 1021 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 2: a decent chance of leading that team in air yards. 1022 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 2: So very optimistic about Deshaun Jackson, especially given that you 1023 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 2: can get him very late in your drafts. So he's 1024 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 2: guy I'm very invested in. And then I'm going to 1025 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 2: second someone Sean mentioned DeAndre Hopkins. Nothing against Hopkins. I 1026 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 2: still think, you know, in real football, he's a top 1027 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 2: five wide receiver in the game. I just think that 1028 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 2: the transition to Arizona might be a little bit harder 1029 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 2: than people are anticipating. I don't think he's going to 1030 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,720 Speaker 2: get as many targets as he's had in previous seasons, 1031 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,720 Speaker 2: and the target chair really has been what has boosted 1032 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: him to just atmospheric levels of production. I don't think 1033 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 2: we're going to get there this year. So that means 1034 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 2: I have basically no Hopkins, even though he's not someone 1035 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 2: I'm actively going out of my way to stay away from. 1036 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 2: I just end up getting no no Hopkins because I'm just, 1037 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 2: you know, kind of looking elsewhere. But yeah, he's one 1038 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 2: I am. I've realized I have zero Hopkins. Brad. Let's 1039 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 2: talk about these tight ends. The guys you like and 1040 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 2: the guys you are fading. 1041 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, I like, I mean, there's a lot of 1042 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 4: and this is unprecedented depth in my mind. Now I 1043 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 4: say this now you know September first, but you know, 1044 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 4: come like November first, it's going to be a desert 1045 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 4: with rolling tumbleweed. 1046 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 3: That's how it always seems to be a tight end. 1047 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 3: But man, I love Chris herdon. I don't know why. 1048 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 4: I mean investing in an Adam Gay's tight end. It 1049 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 4: is a very scary proposition. I will say that that's 1050 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 4: like going into a dark room and a horror film. 1051 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 4: But you know, I do like the athletics. I like 1052 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 4: what he did in his rookie season. You know, had 1053 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 4: a high a dot that year, really impressed and then 1054 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 4: of course he had the off the field issues, the 1055 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 4: injuries last season. Now he's healthy, now he's expected to 1056 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 4: be a centerpiece. You know, all local reports are saying 1057 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 4: he's got a budding, blossoming chemistry with Sam Darnold. The 1058 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 4: Jets are going to be bad and pretty woeful defensively, 1059 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 4: so you know, there could be a lot of opportunities. 1060 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 4: If you're looking for this year's Darren Waller, it could 1061 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,760 Speaker 4: indeed be Chris Herndon. 1062 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 3: So I'm really high on him, and then guys that 1063 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 3: I'm avoiding is Tyler Higbee in particular. 1064 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 4: You know, Tyler Higby is a guy people buying him 1065 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 4: right now and like tight end seven, tighten eight, and 1066 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 4: I don't get it. I know it's recency biased because 1067 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 4: he had four or under yard games at the last five, 1068 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 4: but that was without Gerald Everett on the field, and 1069 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 4: whenever it was on the field earlier in the season, 1070 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 4: in ten games, he averaged thirty two point one yards 1071 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 4: per game and had one that's right, one touchdown. Cooper 1072 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 4: Cup is a centerpiece inside the red zone. I'm expecting 1073 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 4: positive TD regression for Robert Woods. You mentioned cam Akers 1074 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 4: a focal point of this offense. I want nothing to 1075 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 4: do with Tyler Higgate his current ADP. I think people 1076 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 4: are grossly overpaying for his services. 1077 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 2: On tight ends. Talk to me. 1078 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 6: My most owned tight ends are Hayden Hurst and Dallas Goddard. 1079 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 6: When it comes to hayden Hurst, you know, anytime he 1080 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 6: falls outside of the top ten, I'm going to be 1081 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 6: taking him. 1082 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 2: You know. 1083 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 6: I think a lot of that has to do with 1084 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 6: why I like Austin Hooper last year, and that's just 1085 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 6: dirt Cutter offenses turnout tight end ones. I mean, if 1086 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 6: you look at the past ten seasons, he's turned out 1087 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,720 Speaker 6: seven tight end ones. And it's a propria of different 1088 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 6: tight ends. So you have Mercedes Lewis on the Jaguars, 1089 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 6: Tony Gonzalez, the Goat, cam Bray, OJ Howard and then 1090 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 6: Austin Hooper last year. So and I think it's no 1091 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 6: surprise that after Dirt Cutter left Camp Bay last year, 1092 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 6: you know, cam Bray and OJ Howard both busted. So 1093 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 6: I just believe in his system feeding you know, targets 1094 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 6: of the tight end and hurst, I without doubt he's 1095 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 6: more talented and can do more after the catch than 1096 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 6: Austin Hooper. So it's scary to think what he can 1097 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 6: do in this offen. So I've been getting him quite 1098 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 6: a bit. And then you know later in the draft. 1099 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 6: I always say that Dallas godd has just that built 1100 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 6: and upside if zach Ertz were in miss time. But 1101 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 6: even when zach ERTs is healthy, I consider him, you know, 1102 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,879 Speaker 6: a fringe. 1103 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 7: Tight end one. 1104 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 6: So especially you know with el Sean Jeffrey not likely 1105 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 6: to start the season, Jalen Rager is now out, Marquise 1106 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 6: Goodwin opted out. You know, I thought this receiving depth 1107 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 6: chart was gonna be a lot better having the season, 1108 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 6: but it's looking a lot more like last year. So 1109 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 6: I think God will be factor early in the season. 1110 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 6: I think, you know, he's at the point of his 1111 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 6: career where he's only going to get better, So I 1112 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 6: love his upside getting him way later in the draft. 1113 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 7: So I have a ton of him as well. 1114 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 6: And then the tearm avoiding is the Evan Ingram Hunter, 1115 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,240 Speaker 6: Henry Tier, you know, taking Bred's point with Taylor Higby. 1116 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 7: You know, I'd go with the way with him. 1117 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 6: If you want to bet on the upside and you 1118 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 6: don't think Gerald Evertt's going to be on the field, match, 1119 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 6: go for it. Take Tyler Heaby because I think he 1120 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 6: does have top five upside at least there's you know, 1121 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,240 Speaker 6: some potential there. But when it comes to Ingram and Henry, 1122 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 6: I just think you're better off waiting for guy like 1123 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,280 Speaker 6: Hurst or one of these many tight ends with upside 1124 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 6: later in the draft. You know, Ingram hasn't really shown 1125 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 6: that he can say healthy for entire season. They have 1126 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 6: a ton of weapons there. It's hard to see him 1127 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 6: hitting a ceiling. This year and Hunter Henry. You know, 1128 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 6: I'm just down on the passing attack for the Chargers 1129 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 6: in general. So I just think it's a mistake taking 1130 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 6: tight end when they're going. So I have very little 1131 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 6: share of those two. 1132 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 2: Rave on tight end who's hot and who's not. 1133 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 5: I mean, Hayen Hurst. 1134 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 8: I got so much more Hayden Hurst than like every 1135 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 8: other tight end. 1136 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 5: It's not even funny. He'll probably get hurt in like 1137 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 5: week one. 1138 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 8: I do agree that, like there's something to like about 1139 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 8: all those tight ends kind of going, you know, outside 1140 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 8: the top eight. But my issue is that I can't 1141 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 8: choose one. It's like there's all these different guys and 1142 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 8: you know, not all of them are going to hit, 1143 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 8: and so I'm really just kind of in a race 1144 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 8: to get the tight end eight. I don't take as 1145 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 8: many of those guys as maybe some some people are. 1146 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 8: I try to get Hurst if I don't get a 1147 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 8: top four tight end, and I do usually target you know, 1148 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 8: Mark Andrews or zach Ertz because I think, you know, 1149 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 8: Andrews has that upside to ascend into that Kelsey Kittle tire. 1150 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 8: He's a guy that was targeted on one of every 1151 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 8: three pass routes last year with a top three tight end, 1152 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 8: and you know that was running about you know, fifty 1153 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 8: five sixty percent of the routes most weeks for Baltimore, 1154 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 8: So he has huge upside. And then ert is just 1155 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 8: gonna be mister reliable. I mean, you know, Sean mentioned it. 1156 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 8: They don't have a receiving court yet again, it's kind 1157 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 8: of falling by the wayside. So I think Ertz is 1158 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 8: kind of getting swept on because he's a little older, 1159 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 8: he's kind of boring. But I think it's really going 1160 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 8: to be valuable to have a top four tight end 1161 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 8: or a guy that can kind of like Hurst, you know, 1162 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 8: could be in that Hooper role. Hooper caught five point 1163 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 8: eight balls per game last year. You're gonna need a 1164 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 8: guy like that with that kind of volume to equalize 1165 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 8: what those top four do. 1166 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 5: So those it's been Hurst in the top four for. 1167 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 8: Me, and as far as ye I won't stand away 1168 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 8: from it's largely the guys outside after Hurst. You know, 1169 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 8: I have Hurst ranked as my tight end seven, and 1170 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 8: after that, you know, it gets shaky. I mean, I 1171 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 8: personally think Higbee is going to continue to have the 1172 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 8: same role he has, but that's not a guarantee, and 1173 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 8: so I don't want to kind of, you know, take 1174 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 8: that risk where he's going in ADP because there are 1175 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 8: better receivers, I think, going around him, so I don't 1176 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 8: get a ton of him. And then yeah, all the 1177 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 8: guys after that, I really choose my spots because again, 1178 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 8: I just think it's hard to pick one and that 1179 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 8: leaves you kind of back in no man's line, and 1180 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 8: they're harder to fordict. So tight end is hard to stream, 1181 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 8: you know, weekend week out than a quarterback, you know, 1182 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 8: unless you got the guy going against the Cardinals or 1183 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 8: how we should do last year. 1184 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 2: So all right, So Raybon, you mentioned wanting to stay 1185 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 2: away from the guys after hearst and how it's harder 1186 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 2: to pick out, you know, the guy that really might 1187 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 2: break out. I think I have picked out the guy 1188 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 2: and that's no offense. I think he's absolutely going to smash. 1189 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 2: Of course, I'm probably wrong. A lot of this is 1190 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,880 Speaker 2: predicated on the idea that that Denver offense won't be 1191 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 2: as bad as a lot of people are, you know, 1192 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 2: kind of projecting it to be. You know, Brad mentioned 1193 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 2: that he's high on Courtland Sutton. I'm also high on Sutton, 1194 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 2: and again a lot of it has to do with 1195 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 2: that Denver offense under Patch. I think it's going to 1196 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 2: be a faster offense and more of a past focused 1197 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 2: offense than what we saw last year, and so I 1198 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 2: think that's going to result in just more opportunities for 1199 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 2: Noah Fans who had rather Herndon like rookie year, just 1200 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 2: in terms of the efficiency that he had on a 1201 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 2: per target basis. And Herndon is also someone later in 1202 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 2: drafts that I'm very invested in. But Fans really is 1203 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 2: the guy that I'm going for, which means that I'm 1204 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,839 Speaker 2: really looking to stay away from all of the tight 1205 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 2: ends from tight end five to tight end twelve, especially 1206 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 2: Austin Hooper. You know, given that Fance you can get 1207 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 2: him at you know, tight end thirteen to tight end fifteen. 1208 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 2: He is really the guy that I am going for. 1209 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 2: And again just the guys I'm staying away from. I 1210 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 2: have really nobody drafted in that tight end five to 1211 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 2: tight end twelve range, except for a little bit of 1212 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 2: Hayden Hurst when you could get him earlier in draft 1213 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 2: season outside of the top twelve, but since he's moved up, 1214 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 2: I haven't really invested in him. So the guys I'm 1215 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 2: fading really that middle range of tight end five to 1216 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 2: tight end twelve. Uh. You know, some final questions here, Brad, 1217 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 2: if you end up being incredibly wrong about a player, 1218 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 2: who do you think that's going to be? 1219 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,760 Speaker 4: Well, it's obviously David Montgomery, right, because I've already doubled 1220 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,360 Speaker 4: down on him. And now he's got a tender groin 1221 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 4: and you know, look, I'm willing to massage to get 1222 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 4: it back to full health whatever is necessary. I need 1223 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 4: him on the field, but I have doubled down on 1224 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 4: him because when he does come back, and I've talked 1225 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 4: to some Bears insiders about this, he is the you know, the. 1226 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 3: True blue, unrivaled workhorse in this backfield. 1227 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 4: Now you have offensive line concerns, they were you know, 1228 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 4: in the bottom third and run blocking efficiency for the 1229 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 4: Bears last season. Obviously the quarterback position is a ginormous 1230 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 4: question mark. But the Bears haven't gone out and sign 1231 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 4: a veteran you know, maybe they kicked the tires on 1232 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 4: Leonard Fournette, but as it stands currently, I mean, he's 1233 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 4: going to get twenty touches per game. I'm you know, 1234 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 4: I'm already bleeding on that hill, so I might as 1235 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,919 Speaker 4: well just stay there and just bleed out until I'm 1236 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 4: dead at this juncture. 1237 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,240 Speaker 3: So for me, Dave. 1238 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 4: Montgomery is a guy I'm doubling down on, and I'm 1239 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 4: praying that he's going to be back by at least 1240 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,280 Speaker 4: week two because the early season schedule with the Bears 1241 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 4: is quite delightful. 1242 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 2: Sean, Who's the guy you are going to be wrong about? 1243 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 6: The one guy I could see definitely being wrong about 1244 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 6: is Josh Allen at QB ten. I think it is 1245 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 6: now I'm projecting some regression around the goal line. But 1246 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 6: of course, if he carries over the eight to nine 1247 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 6: rushing touchdowns this year and has the breakout season passing, 1248 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 6: which I think will have with se funds, I mean 1249 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 6: we could be looking at a Lamar Jackson breakout season. 1250 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 6: I'll look like an idiot with him as my QB ten. 1251 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 6: So that's probably the guy most likely. 1252 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 2: To get wrong, Raybon, who are you going to get wrong? 1253 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 5: It's got to be Will Fuller. 1254 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 8: I mean, I haven't met like wide receiver twenty five 1255 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 8: because I don't like, you can only project miss games 1256 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 8: to such a degree you know of accuracy, so you 1257 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 8: can't have guys that, like you left, You're Chris Thompson, 1258 00:56:59,040 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 8: but you. 1259 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 5: Can't have as of like, you know, ten games or 1260 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 5: something like that. 1261 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 8: So you know, I knock him down a little bit. 1262 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 8: But you know, I'm expecting him to use his number 1263 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 8: one receiver. He hasn't really stayed healthy as a pro, 1264 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 8: and so yeah, I could easily get him wrong. And 1265 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 8: on the flip side, Todd Gurley is a guy that 1266 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 8: I am projecting a little more conservatively because I do 1267 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 8: expect an injury that really hasn't happened yet. You know, 1268 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 8: we haven't seen a lot of miss games from him, 1269 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 8: so if he stays healthy, he could easily OutKick. You know, 1270 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 8: I would say, you know, all of our fades, I 1271 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 8: think we're all kind of fading him. But if he 1272 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 8: stays healthy, he should be he should be good money. 1273 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. A guy that I could see myself being incredibly 1274 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 2: wrong about is Amari Cooper. I haven't projected for a 1275 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 2: lot of the targets within that offense. I think Dallas's 1276 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 2: offense in general is going to be pretty awesome, and 1277 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 2: so I think there are multiple ways in which I 1278 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 2: could be wrong. Maybe that offense isn't as good, right 1279 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 2: maybe the marriage of Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore doesn't 1280 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 2: result in a lot of fantasy goodness for that team. 1281 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 2: Maybe there is a lot of fantasy goodness to go around, 1282 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 2: but Amari Cooper just doesn't get it. Instead, it goes 1283 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 2: to Michael Gallup or Ceede Lamb. They're just there are 1284 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 2: lots of ways I could end up being wrong about 1285 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 2: Amari Cooper, but I'm aggressively projecting him, and I think 1286 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 2: he's going to have a smash of the season. You 1287 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 2: can see how that could go wrong, All right, Brad, 1288 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 2: One final question here, who's the one player you are 1289 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 2: most convinced is going to be a league winner? 1290 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of strong candidates here, and this 1291 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 4: is gonna be a very bold take, gentlemen. But if 1292 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 4: and I say this with much hesitancy, if he can 1293 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 4: get sixteen games, and I think it's gonna be David Johnson, 1294 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 4: I really do. He has little to no competition for 1295 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 4: touches outside of Duke. You know, Bill O'Brien is hell 1296 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 4: bent on convincing the masses that trading away DeAndre Hopkins 1297 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 4: was a good thing by all accounts. 1298 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 3: You know, you look at David Johnson. 1299 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 4: He's healthy. He came into camp in great shape. The 1300 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 4: back is no longer an issue. If he can hold up, 1301 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 4: he's gonna get twenty touches per game. And he is 1302 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 4: script agnostic because even if Houston is scoreboard chasing, he's 1303 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 4: gonna be heavily involved as a receiver backfield. And we 1304 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,959 Speaker 4: can't forget what he was weeks one through six last 1305 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 4: year before the ankle injury sapped his production. Maybe was 1306 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 4: averaging over one hundred to twll yards per game. He 1307 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 4: was inside the top ten and Fantasy points per game. 1308 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 4: You know, he's a player you've been consistently getting in 1309 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 4: round four, round five in some cases. And volume speaks 1310 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 4: loudly in fantasy. And David Johnson, if he can recapture 1311 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 4: the magic of a couple of seasons ago, could be 1312 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 4: that guy that you stole in your draft and winds 1313 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 4: up being a top ten running back and a difference maker, 1314 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 4: getting you over the hump and having you hoist the 1315 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 4: hardware in the end. 1316 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 2: There you go. Brad Evans says to take David Johnson 1317 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 2: number one overall. That's what he said, Brad. 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