Speaker 1: To Teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camera Judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Secret Lives of
Speaker 2: Mormon Wives on to Teas and a pod with myself,
Speaker 2: Teddy Mellencamp.
Speaker 3: And Tamar Judge.
Speaker 2: I like what you did there. You switch switched it up,
Speaker 2: you know what. It was an accident, but I like work.
Speaker 2: I like it work.
Speaker 3: I was looking at my what is she saying? I
Speaker 3: was like, what am I doing? Listen?
Speaker 2: I am now I know and the head podcaster Secret
Speaker 2: Lives from Mormon Wives. Oh shit, No, that's the episode
Speaker 2: we're recapping.
Speaker 3: Wait is that the show we're on?
Speaker 2: Kidding?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we're just uh to teas in a
Speaker 3: pod today.
Speaker 2: We're too twats today for sure, we're twatting it up.
Speaker 3: We're twatting it up.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, we're going to be recapping episode
Speaker 2: four and episode five of season two. It starts out
Speaker 2: with Layla and Cameron are on a date. Cameron grew
Speaker 2: up very conservative and has never tried beer, but he
Speaker 2: told Lah he'd try a weed gummy. Layla still hasn't.
Speaker 3: I'll try. I'm gonna could he set.
Speaker 2: A venus CBD weed gummy. Yeah, that would have been great.
Speaker 2: Come on, Layla still hasn't experienced an orgasm with a partner,
Speaker 2: and the LDS church, you're not supposed to have sex
Speaker 2: before marriage, so Cameron's parents don't know he's sexually active.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay. First of all, I want to just say,
Speaker 3: could the producers at least done Layla a solid and
Speaker 3: fix those hair extensions? I know, I mean they were all.
Speaker 3: First of all, Laila, don't put your hair extensions all
Speaker 3: the way up to the very top because they're always
Speaker 3: going to show kind do a mid like they were.
Speaker 3: I wanted, I wanted to jump into the screen and
Speaker 3: fix them.
Speaker 2: Well. I just also can't take it that it's so
Speaker 2: funny to me every single time that they are off coffee,
Speaker 2: but they have no problem drinking these big gulp extra
Speaker 2: syrupy sugary oh.
Speaker 3: I know, and talk about gummies and ketamine and all
Speaker 3: these other things. I'm like for Pete's sex, but also
Speaker 3: what you call Mormon sober.
Speaker 2: Yeah, instead of California sober, that's Mormon sober.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's something I want to talk to
Speaker 3: you about really quick.
Speaker 2: Hold on, but I need to know a question if
Speaker 2: you were going to pick one person to have an
Speaker 2: orgasm with? Would you call it?
Speaker 3: Let's skip this question.
Speaker 2: No, would you pick somebody like if you're like, you
Speaker 2: know what, I really want to have an orgasm? Let
Speaker 2: me pick the Cameron whose dad is a bishop, who
Speaker 2: can't talk about being sexual active.
Speaker 3: I haven't feel like it's going on on those trousers.
Speaker 3: You don't know, but probably not.
Speaker 2: No, what did you want to talk to me about?
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to you about the Instagram post
Speaker 3: about when Jesse calls out Demi and Brett.
Speaker 2: Can you read it to me? I do?
Speaker 3: I have it right here? So Jesse on Secret Lives
Speaker 3: and Warming Wives their Instagram they posted Jesse calls it
Speaker 3: Demi and Brett after they disrespected her in a recent interview. Now,
Speaker 3: Jesse goes on to say, a forty seven year old
Speaker 3: washed up loser who can't hold a job and ask
Speaker 3: my husband and I for ten grand just a few
Speaker 3: months ago so he could pay his.
Speaker 2: Bills washed up loser is pretty harsh.
Speaker 3: It is pretty harsh. And then you know, Secret Lives
Speaker 3: and Mormon Wives said best friends. Any thoughts they're actually
Speaker 3: posting it? Could you imagine if Bravo did that with
Speaker 3: all the nasty posts it went on between housewives.
Speaker 2: I mean, if they just start reposting all the shit,
Speaker 2: I feel like Bravo takes down some of the really
Speaker 2: bad shit. Yeah, they're like, no, let's do a repost.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this one, it's like, so, has anybody heard
Speaker 3: what Brett does for a living?
Speaker 2: No? All we know is that Jinn's husband used to
Speaker 2: spray bugspray, bugspray, right, so maybe he's a bugspray guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: That may bugspray, Probably not very much because he's not
Speaker 3: doing it anymore.
Speaker 2: True, But that wasn't even him. We don't know what
Speaker 2: he does. But he's forty seven years old, and it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Jesse and Demi friends.
Speaker 2: They were, they were besties.
Speaker 3: They were like, but they look like twins to me.
Speaker 2: They don't look like twins to me, but I do
Speaker 2: look a lot alike. They have the same hair color
Speaker 2: because Jesse colors all of their hairs, all their hairs,
Speaker 2: all their I mean, it must be nice Jesse, Jesse
Speaker 2: help me Hill. Oh my gosh. Have we talked about
Speaker 2: how Brett was married to Angie Harrington from Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2: Remember Angie Harrington with the red hair.
Speaker 3: What, yes, I need a picture of them together.
Speaker 2: I me too, Let's put it right here on the screen.
Speaker 2: Angie Harrington and Brett were married beforehand. And then he
Speaker 2: has known to me since Demi was fourteen years old. Oh,
Speaker 2: they all went to the same church together, allegedly.
Speaker 3: Clearly didn't go to the same high school together.
Speaker 2: Good math cham Yeah, but either way, this is I
Speaker 2: think it's going to play out throughout the season, and
Speaker 2: I'm grateful that I haven't watched all of it. I'm
Speaker 2: forcing myself to watch episode by episode for our recaps
Speaker 2: because I don't want to get ahead of my sale.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but then the time too. H Macy, mckala,
Speaker 2: and Taylor are grabbing brunch. Taylor checked on Dakota after
Speaker 2: the Halloween party, but can't say whether or not she's
Speaker 2: done with him. Taylor gets emotional when talking about her
Speaker 2: trauma and self worth, and then Macy reads a confession
Speaker 2: that she got on Center Sunday a few months ago.
Speaker 2: It said, I slept with Demise's husband last year while
Speaker 2: she was away. I kind of want to start a
Speaker 2: Center Sunday Sunday, but I call it like Sinner's Monday's
Speaker 2: people sent a lot on Sunday. I think, yeah, how
Speaker 2: about twenty Tuesday twaty Tuesday sinners, Yeah, twatten it up Tuesday,
Speaker 2: tell us your sins with people we know, and then
Speaker 2: well we'll only tell a portion of the people we
Speaker 2: do know, and then it'll all come out because nobody
Speaker 2: can keep a secret on this cast, thank goodness.
Speaker 3: But you know what, like, how do they know that's real?
Speaker 2: Like anybody can It was real the last time?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she did say that, but you don't know
Speaker 3: it's real, Like I don't.
Speaker 2: Know anything that's real or not real. But when she
Speaker 2: her sinner Sunday is what got Dakota in trouble in
Speaker 2: the first place, So I think that it could effortlessly
Speaker 2: be real. But we'll see, we'll see. We do know
Speaker 2: that the end of the season ends with some sort
Speaker 2: of cheating scandal, so who knows. So it said I
Speaker 2: slept with to Me's husband last year while she was away.
Speaker 2: The girls are all, oh, but don't seem too surprised.
Speaker 2: Then Jen goes over to Miranda's. She feels like Miranda's
Speaker 2: the only person she can go to in the group.
Speaker 2: Jen asked Miranda a lot of questions about co parenting
Speaker 2: and her divorce. Then Jen starts to cry and admit
Speaker 2: she feels so alone. Jen wants to be a part
Speaker 2: of mom talk, but she knows it's hard for Zach
Speaker 2: and it's hurting their marriage. I want to be a
Speaker 2: part of mom talk too.
Speaker 3: Well, I do too. I kind of went down that
Speaker 3: rabbit hole about looking at all their Instagram I mean
Speaker 3: their TikTok accounts. So so Taylor has the most following, right, Yes, okay,
Speaker 3: so is there because I looked for it and there
Speaker 3: was hardly anything on it. Is there an actual mom
Speaker 3: talk TikTok? Or are they just all their individuals?
Speaker 2: All their individuals I did find together.
Speaker 3: Okay, because I did find a mom talk one, but
Speaker 3: there was like nothing different.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was different. Yeah it was a burger.
Speaker 3: I mean Jen was definitely asking all the questions. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think she's trying to figure out what to do
Speaker 3: with that in itself. I mean she's kind of dropped now.
Speaker 2: She's kinda yeah, because I think that, you know, good
Speaker 2: old Zach is going to have to be the stay
Speaker 2: at home dad because.
Speaker 3: Well because he drops Also, his wife can dance on TikTok. Yeah, clearly,
Speaker 3: I mean that's that's that's right there.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry, it's better money.
Speaker 3: Well, it probably is, but it's not gonna last forever.
Speaker 2: Welling a doctor might being a doctor might, unless you're Zach.
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like Jen is really missing the church,
Speaker 3: and I think she probably should go back because she
Speaker 3: was really sitting there talking about how I haven't been
Speaker 3: to church and I'm not close to God. And if
Speaker 3: you know, I feel like, maybe Jen go to church.
Speaker 2: I think Jen is missing her friendships with the other women.
Speaker 2: I think she's upset that she's no.
Speaker 3: Well, you think you think it's great to feel the
Speaker 3: most hated on your cast Let me tell you.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, Let me tell you. I tell
Speaker 2: you what it's like to be the most hated on
Speaker 2: the interwebs.
Speaker 3: I've been there too, But any like eminem oh.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're having for breakfast? Delicious? Then Zach
Speaker 2: invited Jordan Brett to go golfing. Zach tells them that
Speaker 2: Chippendale's performance felt insensitive, and then Zach calls them out
Speaker 2: for almost physically assaulting someone ten minutes before the dance.
Speaker 2: That was kind of a smart move. On Zach's part,
Speaker 2: but he brought that right on us. Zach's looking for
Speaker 2: a diamond or a peach an orange.
Speaker 3: Really amount he's looking for sure. The only thing I
Speaker 3: can think about this entire time is how Brett looks
Speaker 3: like everybody's dad in the same well.
Speaker 2: Of course he's forty seven. He could be my dad.
Speaker 3: They're like twenty under.
Speaker 2: I guess he couldn't be my dad. Sorry, Zach, you
Speaker 2: couldn't be my dad, but you could effortless sleep he would. No,
Speaker 2: I'm forty three. He'd have to have me.
Speaker 3: It's forty three minus forty seven, four five forty four,
Speaker 3: I mean fourteen.
Speaker 2: I have to have birth four now, fourteen, four four
Speaker 2: years old. Tam Oh, wait, I'm thinking fifty seven. He
Speaker 2: looks fifty. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I was like even I got this one. I don't
Speaker 3: know why I was thinking fifty seven.
Speaker 2: Okay. Then Jordan turns it back on jan claiming she
Speaker 2: knew everything. Brett claims he never would have done it
Speaker 2: if he knew it would cause issues between the Jen
Speaker 2: and Zach. Of course he would have. And then the
Speaker 2: only thing I want to see less than Jordan and
Speaker 2: Brett grinding as Chippendale's is Jordan and Brett golfing with
Speaker 2: Zach No, thank you, I don't care. I don't want
Speaker 2: to see golfing. I don't want to see fly fishing.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see it. I want to see
Speaker 2: dad talk. I don't want to see dad talking. I
Speaker 2: don't want to see Dan.
Speaker 3: You want to see them dancing?
Speaker 2: I don't want to see little.
Speaker 3: Can we do some of those dances when I see
Speaker 3: you next?
Speaker 2: We get so mad. Even what we had when we
Speaker 2: had to do our we fucked that up like ten times.
Speaker 3: We're not good.
Speaker 2: We're not good at that on the tick. We're not
Speaker 2: good at the tick or at the top.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not good on the tick.
Speaker 2: Then Dakota and Taylor went to therapy together. Taylor feels
Speaker 2: like Dakota was finally hearing her and listening to her
Speaker 2: for the first time. Dakota says he just needs forgiveness
Speaker 2: from Taylor in this moment. I'm going to say in
Speaker 2: this moment, because a lot of moments he really bugs me.
Speaker 2: I do feel like he really loves Taylor, and Taylor's
Speaker 2: kind of the one that's like creating the issues, like
Speaker 2: the past problems I got a confession.
Speaker 3: What I'm following for Dakota falling for him one episode
Speaker 3: at a time. Don't tell anybody, I won't tell, so
Speaker 3: tell let go. But you know what, did you notice
Speaker 3: something about the therapy session? We never saw a.
Speaker 2: Therapist because there wasn't one there.
Speaker 3: I thought that they were in a thing.
Speaker 2: Was actually she? Oh god, it was me going Actually no,
Speaker 2: I bet, I bet no Mormon therapists are going to
Speaker 2: agree to be honest, Caley.
Speaker 3: How about the one last week or the last episode
Speaker 3: with the peers eyebrow?
Speaker 2: Well, she had no problem, but maybe she wasn't Mormon.
Speaker 3: How do you know this? You're positive this was a
Speaker 3: Mormon therapist.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not positive about anything, but I feel
Speaker 2: pretty strongly about it.
Speaker 3: You're positive that forty three minus forty seven is not
Speaker 3: stop fourteen?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 3: Wait so wait? Is fifty seven minus forty three? Fourteen?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? That's too many numbers for me to count. We
Speaker 2: don't have that kind of time.
Speaker 3: Okay, at least I got that right.
Speaker 2: True? True. Then Demi and Jesse are throwing Leyla a
Speaker 2: sex party. They've invited a sexpert that will hopefully remove
Speaker 2: the taboo around sex Mikaela brings an ass cake and
Speaker 2: Macy thinks she used it her ass as an inSpot.
Speaker 2: You know who doesn't use anybody? Nobody has once used
Speaker 2: my ass as an Invoit would just be like a saggy,
Speaker 2: worn down cake deflated with an underthing from a spray tad.
Speaker 3: It's melted, melted cake. I have a booty, but because
Speaker 3: the hemorrhoid ham rhids, yeah, I do have this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: my hamorrhids are bigger than my butt right now.
Speaker 2: Oh, why so you got a three butt?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I guess. Yes. I usually have a nice little
Speaker 3: bubble butt, but I'm a little too thin right now
Speaker 3: and the butt is just kind of.
Speaker 2: You know, this is a sensitive topic right now.
Speaker 3: Do you mind, Tam, Yes.
Speaker 2: But while the girls are doing this, the guys are
Speaker 2: together doing dad talks no, and you know what, they're
Speaker 2: not good at it.
Speaker 3: And they're not good at it at all.
Speaker 2: I have one question for you, hopefully they can answer it.
Speaker 2: Can the dads survive dad talk? Can they no? At all?
Speaker 2: Then we're back at the door. We rush right through that,
Speaker 2: because then we got back to the sex party to me,
Speaker 2: claims she gave Jen a heads up about the Chippendale's dance,
Speaker 2: and she seemed all, four.
Speaker 3: Okay, I need to to stop. I need them to
Speaker 3: stop right now. Yes, jen knew that chippendale dancers were
Speaker 3: gonna be there, But did she know she was going
Speaker 3: to be singled out? Did she know she was going
Speaker 3: to only be the only girl there in that chair
Speaker 3: being grinded on.
Speaker 2: By her friend's husband, by her friend's husband.
Speaker 3: No, it was actually that the what do you call it,
Speaker 3: the one they had hired. Yeah, and with her husband
Speaker 3: that her husband isn't comfortable with it. I think jen
Speaker 3: knew that they were going to do that, but she
Speaker 3: thought she's gonna be in the audience watching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm kind of over this whole enough.
Speaker 2: But then the girls start with the sex therapist and
Speaker 2: go around in a circle and say what arouses them?
Speaker 2: I can tell you not many things that they had
Speaker 2: on this table arouses me.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what arouses me? What putting my sweats on,
Speaker 3: taking my gummy, nobody bothering me, and I'm in bed
Speaker 3: by eight pm. I'm like, this is gonna take for me.
Speaker 2: It's gonna take more than tam or getting a red
Speaker 2: little whip and kind of spanking me softly to get
Speaker 2: things going.
Speaker 3: Presents the certified sex Coach comes with whips, dilds, feathers,
Speaker 3: butt plugs, and a vulva puppet. Oh my god, none
Speaker 3: of those turned me on.
Speaker 2: Well it's not that none of those turn me on,
Speaker 2: but watching these awkward girls try to touch them for
Speaker 2: the first time like it is the first time definitely
Speaker 2: didn't turn me on. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe if I had a big shot of testosterone, I'd
Speaker 3: be turned on by all that stuff.
Speaker 2: What about how Leyla can't answer the question, She has
Speaker 2: no idea, but then we find out she may be
Speaker 2: end up being whipped and spanked allegedly.
Speaker 3: But can Layla give herself?
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't think so. I think if she says
Speaker 2: she's never been given or oh, she probably has never
Speaker 2: tried to give herself an Oh.
Speaker 3: Right, don't you think once you know how to do
Speaker 3: it yourself? Like, I'm so confused on all this is
Speaker 3: this normal girls?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Are there girls that just it just doesn't happen?
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of you are prestized if you
Speaker 2: are promoting dildos, so I would hope you're using them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but just food for thought. I don't really like a
Speaker 2: dildo that goes inside, and most of you guys promote those,
Speaker 2: So maybe get ones for the outside and see how
Speaker 2: it goes for you.
Speaker 3: Just yeah, you know one thing I never want to
Speaker 3: hear again. We're going to eat ass? And she goes,
Speaker 3: are we going to eat the ass?
Speaker 2: You know how I feel about that? No?
Speaker 3: I never want to hear that again.
Speaker 2: But then Layla's takeaway from this party is that it's hard,
Speaker 2: that she likes it hard and rough. And then after
Speaker 2: the sex stuff is over, dem decides to talk to
Speaker 2: Jen in front of everyone. Right now, Jen says she's
Speaker 2: keeping the details of her marriage between her and Zach.
Speaker 2: It's because she can't announce that she's pregnant yet because
Speaker 2: she's too early on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but smart for her not to give these girls
Speaker 3: any info, because it seems like any info she gives
Speaker 3: about her marriage, they either turn around and say she's
Speaker 3: or she you know, they use it against her.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then Macy's hosting a dinner to celebrate her new
Speaker 2: book deal. This kind of made me sad. I wish
Speaker 2: she would have told one of her friends, and one
Speaker 2: of her friends would have thrown a party for her.
Speaker 2: I feel like Mikaela would have thrown it.
Speaker 3: Do you think like Demi wasn't happy?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, to me, Demi, Demi, whatever I.
Speaker 3: Say her name Demi or Demi, I see Demis.
Speaker 2: She never seemed more unhappy about somebody getting a book deal.
Speaker 2: But Macy does have a pretty incredible story, and Macy
Speaker 2: seems like the smartest tool in the shed.
Speaker 3: You know what, even pissed her off more. But when
Speaker 3: she heard that she was going to be judging a
Speaker 3: celebrity pickaball tournament.
Speaker 2: And then why did you confused what a celebrity pickaball
Speaker 2: tournament was?
Speaker 3: She's like, why not me? Why am I not getting
Speaker 3: a book deal? She's like that girl in Willie Wonka
Speaker 3: that turns into a blueberry.
Speaker 2: She she really bugs. But in the confessional she de me,
Speaker 2: tends to make judgmental jokes and takes little jabs at people.
Speaker 2: She's just kind of a jab or type and I
Speaker 2: didn't really appreciate it. After Macy talks about having her
Speaker 2: book deal and hosting this celebrity pickleball competition, she tensions
Speaker 2: are already a little bit high because of the seating chart.
Speaker 2: Then she goes and says she wants everybody to write
Speaker 2: down the confession game, So let's read each confession.
Speaker 3: Okay, I am trying to get pregnant.
Speaker 2: Who do you think that is? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Are they all pregnant at this point?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean who's left the only person that's not pregnant.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the single one. So Lea's not trying to
Speaker 3: get pregnant, Miranda's not trying to get pregnant. We know
Speaker 3: that Jen's not trying to get pregnant the other and
Speaker 3: we know just how to be maybe Whitney. So we
Speaker 3: have Macy and Mikayla.
Speaker 2: Well, is Macy pregnant at this point? No, so she
Speaker 2: might be trying to get back.
Speaker 3: They both pregnant Mayayla.
Speaker 2: But I don't know that Macy's announced it on the
Speaker 2: show yet. I think it comes up later, So I
Speaker 2: think it's may Well.
Speaker 3: She's doing interviews now, so she Yeah, so it's probably her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's Macey. Yeah. I once had a
Speaker 2: man suck on my toes then I immediately left. I
Speaker 2: feel like that's got to be Taylor.
Speaker 3: Taylor. I've had sex and five high school parking lots.
Speaker 3: That sounds like Taylor too.
Speaker 2: The first time I threw the first time I swallowed,
Speaker 2: I threw up. I threw up immediately. I feel like,
Speaker 2: that's got to be that one chick that bugs what's
Speaker 2: her name, Whitney, Yes, Whitney, thank you. My favorite place
Speaker 2: to do it is in the swimming pool slash hot tub.
Speaker 2: Hashtag yummy, that's gotta be. That's got to be messy, Jesse,
Speaker 2: because who's gonna write hashtag yummy yummy?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like Lala might I think Jenny.
Speaker 2: Because we know Lalah says, I think Genes.
Speaker 3: Well, we know that now, But during this I did
Speaker 3: not think it was her at all.
Speaker 2: I thought it was Demi or Jesse me too.
Speaker 3: That's I've written down it was Demi or Jesse that
Speaker 3: wrote that.
Speaker 2: But I also want to know how many parking lots,
Speaker 2: how many high school parking lots there are in this area.
Speaker 2: Like I've been to Utah, I've.
Speaker 3: Actually been to sex in a high school parking lot.
Speaker 2: Or I know ones I, Los Angeles. Yeah, that says
Speaker 2: I've had sex and five high school parking lot.
Speaker 3: There's not five high school parking lots and Utah. That's
Speaker 3: my point where you go maybe five different times. Maybe
Speaker 3: she meant five parking lots period, like as long as
Speaker 3: she didn't say like in a preschool parking lot.
Speaker 2: I mean that's true, that's awkward or elementary. Well maybe
Speaker 2: after she drops her kids off. Oh gosh, all right,
Speaker 2: well god, let's take a quick break and then we'll
Speaker 2: be back to episode five. Okay. We picked back up
Speaker 2: at Macy's party, where some anonymously wrote that Jen is fake.
Speaker 2: Jen starts to cry.
Speaker 3: After bad for her. Did you notice that Jen was
Speaker 3: the only one that walked up and hugged Macy and
Speaker 3: congratulated her when she announced her book deal, like you
Speaker 3: could tell genuine like she's a good person inside.
Speaker 2: I know. It kind of made me sad the whole thing,
Speaker 2: and leave Jen alone. And it'd be one thing if
Speaker 2: they were dogging out chicks on every single one of
Speaker 2: those confessions, but nobody else was getting dogged out. But
Speaker 2: when everyone leaves, Whitney and Miranda stay back to console
Speaker 2: Jen and wonders if she actually is fake. It's really sad.
Speaker 3: It's really as sad, like that was just mean, not as.
Speaker 2: Sad as that. When we see Whitney and Miranda picking
Speaker 2: up flowers for Whitney's baby shower, and Miranda guesses that Demi, Michailey,
Speaker 2: and Jesse won't show up, and then she sends a
Speaker 2: group text that no one responds.
Speaker 3: Effort, but somebody they could have thumbs uped it or
Speaker 3: hearted it or something.
Speaker 2: Now we left the chat, do something well?
Speaker 3: Left the chat would be a little drastic, But remind
Speaker 3: me what Whitney did that was so bad to these girls.
Speaker 2: She was terrible and kept not showing up. But Whitney's
Speaker 2: pivot from mom talk to I desperately need to be
Speaker 2: back with them is a shame. I'm kind of sad
Speaker 2: to see.
Speaker 3: Okay, so because an asshole to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Whitney, you would.
Speaker 3: Have and didn't She she didn't go to Taylor's baby shower, right,
Speaker 3: she knows show and then her h Taylors look like
Speaker 3: mom called, Yeah, like.
Speaker 2: Where was all wrapped up? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Then she shouldn't expect Taylor to be there?
Speaker 2: But Taylor is there. I know she knows that Taylor
Speaker 2: will come because Taylor ain't missing a chance, Taylor ain't
Speaker 2: losing this job.
Speaker 3: She she knows how to play the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then Taylor's at her mom's house. She made a
Speaker 2: TikTok with Dakota that says life Lately and shows Dakota
Speaker 2: handing her flowers and doing the housework. She pretends it's
Speaker 2: just a TikTok, but everyone assumes they're back together. Taylor,
Speaker 2: I know it's cute. It is.
Speaker 3: I thought it was funny, like he's here, he is,
Speaker 3: he's back, but he's my little bitch.
Speaker 2: Do you but he's not really back.
Speaker 3: That's why keep them guessing? What are your respoughts on
Speaker 3: her having sex with him?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 2: Of course they're going to have sex. They're nowhere near
Speaker 2: being done. No, I know, not done.
Speaker 3: But she said something about having sex with Dakota is
Speaker 3: like a trauma response.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she consistently makes bad decisions and she has
Speaker 2: a bad relationship with sex, and so she has this
Speaker 2: trauma response to where she fights with somebody and then
Speaker 2: has sex with them before they leave.
Speaker 3: Well, I do like her mom's advice to her.
Speaker 2: You do, because I need none to be Stop stop
Speaker 2: being thirstier than freaking Whitney for camera time.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't. I was just I was just making
Speaker 3: fun of her. But you can let me finish. But
Speaker 3: for her mom tell her to use a vibrator. Ooh no,
Speaker 3: I don't want my mom. I don't ever want you
Speaker 3: to have these conversations with my mom. Ever, I don't
Speaker 3: I personally don't think there's anything wrong with them having sex.
Speaker 3: My God, they have a child together, like you know,
Speaker 3: whatever works with that, whatever, just end up together. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know where they're at today, but
Speaker 3: I think they have a child together. I think they
Speaker 3: should make it work if they can. Like they're young.
Speaker 2: I think they need to stop fighting and get over
Speaker 2: the past jealousy issues and see if there's any new
Speaker 2: ones that arise, see if they end up in the
Speaker 2: camera And Teddy, what did we call our new show
Speaker 2: where it's people Tell a Secret? Oh? Twenty Tuesday twaty Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Then Whitney calls Macy to talk about a recent TikTok
Speaker 2: that Michaela made. Mikayla constantly makes fun of Whitney on TikTok,
Speaker 2: but Macy participated in a recent one. Macy claims she
Speaker 2: didn't know what Michaela was going to caption it. Whitney
Speaker 2: wants to talk to Mikayla before the girls trip, and
Speaker 2: Macy offers to facilitate it. This is the only show
Speaker 2: where we can go. Yeah, fighting over TikTok makes sense. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's.
Speaker 3: Pretty damn petty for Mikayla to make tiktoks about Whitney
Speaker 3: and then say, like, I want nothing to do with you.
Speaker 3: If you want nothing to do with her, then stop
Speaker 3: making tiktoks about her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same thing as Dakota doing tiktoks.
Speaker 3: No, it's not the same as Dakota doing tiktoks with
Speaker 3: Taylor because because she's doing Mikayla's doing mean tiktoks about Whitney. Oh,
Speaker 3: you're right, you're right, she's doing mean ones. It's like,
Speaker 3: come on, you're being really petty, Like I don't think
Speaker 3: that you need to do this if you don't like her,
Speaker 3: don't like her, but you're egging her on. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: unless unless whitney's doing mean ones about her. I haven't
Speaker 3: heard about that.
Speaker 2: I haven't haven't heard about that yet. But Whitney it
Speaker 2: might be booked up. She's filming a TV show she
Speaker 2: just birthed like a week ago. She's she might be
Speaker 2: not doing that much on the Talk. Yeah, and her
Speaker 2: husband's apparently getting his his action. She's definitely not the
Speaker 2: one that says she wants to get pregnant.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Then to me and Jesse are going to pilates together,
Speaker 2: Jesse brings her bouquet of flowers because she's about to
Speaker 2: hit one million followers on the Talk. You didn't bring
Speaker 2: me flowers when I hit one point two million on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Tam, because I know you hate flowers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I hate that.
Speaker 3: She's like, send me money, send me clothes.
Speaker 2: Send me snacks, food, but don't send me the tay food,
Speaker 2: the typhod But no, the only flowers I do like
Speaker 2: in case anybody's interested on this group is I like
Speaker 2: an orchid because they live. Okay, anything else I kill
Speaker 2: with in days. But then Jesse and Demi decided to
Speaker 2: do a Habachi night the day of Whitney's baby shower
Speaker 2: for the girls who aren't going. Tom says Zach called
Speaker 2: her right before their pilates class and they talked for
Speaker 2: forty five minutes. To me, stop talking to.
Speaker 3: Zaz, Zach, Why are you talking to Zach? That's weird.
Speaker 3: And by the way, nothing says classic like habati dinner
Speaker 3: in your front yard.
Speaker 2: Listen, I do that shit all the time.
Speaker 3: Die in your backyard there literally, like when you see
Speaker 3: him out there, there's like you could see the stop sign.
Speaker 2: I love that there's a difference between front yard and backyard.
Speaker 3: There is it's like, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: when you're doing shit in your front yard, it's just
Speaker 3: kind of like, h you're doing zac.
Speaker 2: Well, what about how? Zach says to dem allegedly because
Speaker 2: this is off camera, that he feels like his own
Speaker 2: wife is lying to him. First it was the benaffleic
Speaker 2: and now it's pretending like she didn't know it about
Speaker 2: the Chip and Dale's performance. Jesse's doing Gen's hair tomorrow,
Speaker 2: so she's trying to figure out what to say. Zach
Speaker 2: calling his wife friends to talk shit about his wife.
Speaker 3: Oh, punishable, so punishable.
Speaker 2: I don't like that at all. And then Jen and
Speaker 2: Zach are talking about mom talk. Jen claims their purpose
Speaker 2: is to empower women. Don't want to hear it again.
Speaker 3: I don't, no, And there's no empowering going on.
Speaker 2: There's zero empowerment.
Speaker 3: They're all backstabbing each other.
Speaker 2: This isn't even toxic positivity because there's no positivity.
Speaker 3: Why is Jen living in an airbnb because.
Speaker 2: She moved away from med school place.
Speaker 3: Oh, they moved to Hawaii. No, No, that was the
Speaker 3: other couple.
Speaker 2: So they moved somewhere up to Arizona for him to
Speaker 2: go to medical.
Speaker 3: Is it in New York or Arizona?
Speaker 2: Arizona? So they so they couldn't find a house, so
Speaker 2: they're just air is No. She came back alone and
Speaker 2: then he followed her once she started filming.
Speaker 3: But why an airbnb? Isn't it kind of more expense
Speaker 3: them to do that instead of a rental?
Speaker 2: Maybe she thought it was going to be a day
Speaker 2: by day.
Speaker 3: Well, there's one thing that I do agree with. Zach
Speaker 3: Jen was saying she couldn't sleep because of the panic.
Speaker 3: She's panic attacks on all this stuff, because of the girls,
Speaker 3: in all the stress she's having. I just feel like
Speaker 3: he's right, it's not worth it. Like this group of girls,
Speaker 3: if it's pleosaner, this mistress, especially if she's pregnant, now
Speaker 3: worth it.
Speaker 2: I got to tell you something, It's going to be
Speaker 2: a lot more stressful when the only income they have
Speaker 2: is him trying to get the bugs great job back.
Speaker 2: So suck it up, Buttercup, make some friends and get
Speaker 2: your shit done on the talk.
Speaker 3: Well, sorry, she has her own Instagram, so what she
Speaker 3: makes on her Instagram.
Speaker 2: But if she's not connected to them, it's not make
Speaker 2: as much.
Speaker 3: So how do they determine who's going to film for
Speaker 3: Who's TikTok?
Speaker 2: They have like a whole they have like a TikTok house.
Speaker 2: I don't know. This is above our this is above
Speaker 2: our pay grade. We don't understand this because no one
Speaker 2: does this for us. But we're willing to get a
Speaker 2: TikTok house if somebody wants to pay for it, and
Speaker 2: I'll earn a dance or two.
Speaker 3: I'll try.
Speaker 2: I take a month. So they're Jesse and Jen meet
Speaker 2: before the appointment, and this is where Jen claimed she
Speaker 2: was dressing that she knew about Brett dressing up. Then
Speaker 2: Jesse reminds her they said there would be surprises, and
Speaker 2: she said, go for it. They continue fighting back and forth.
Speaker 2: The waitress drops off their hot chocolates.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jen saying that she's from the hood.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know.
Speaker 3: Do you find that it's funny or a little bit cringy?
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm from the hood, And then she started
Speaker 2: doing hand motions and then.
Speaker 3: Zach goes, what's the hand?
Speaker 2: Zach goes you're from Provo, and she goes, but I lived,
Speaker 2: And then she does some kind of hand motion. I'm like, absolutely, no.
Speaker 3: One in the pink, one in the stink. That's the
Speaker 3: only hand motion I know.
Speaker 2: You've got one in the pink, one in the stink.
Speaker 2: The shocker shock her Tam hates to talk about sex,
Speaker 2: but she's willing to talk about one in the pink,
Speaker 2: one in the stink. But then Zach calling her a
Speaker 2: liar in that situation too. But Jennet says, she's been
Speaker 2: told that by the family for six years. I'm assuming
Speaker 2: the family told her this is a joke. She believed it.
Speaker 2: She told people what I know.
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm I'm I I got to stand by it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know, she can at least said to her husband, like,
Speaker 3: what you mean your family was lying to me or
Speaker 3: joking with me. I had no idea she could have
Speaker 3: twisted that or you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: She did try to twist it, but she did.
Speaker 3: I mean, she could have twisted back the other way
Speaker 3: to be like, oh my god, I thought they were serious,
Speaker 3: or why.
Speaker 2: Don't you talk to your family and tell them they
Speaker 2: shouldn't say those things to people? Get in a fight
Speaker 2: with them about it.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts When Jen says she didn't give
Speaker 3: consent for Jesse's husband to rub his little dick on her,
Speaker 3: I felt like that was a mic drop moment right there.
Speaker 2: So as the fight is getting worse and worse, she
Speaker 2: looks at her and she goes just because I don't
Speaker 2: want to swing with you, Jesse, implying that Jesse was
Speaker 2: once a swinger. And then Jesse admits it and her
Speaker 2: confessional and says she.
Speaker 3: Should never admit that. But I feel like Jen has
Speaker 3: a problem getting her words out and she gets frustrated
Speaker 3: and mad and then she just gets nasty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she was speaking far experience about messy Jesse.
Speaker 2: As messy Jesse was like, yeah, in my past relationships,
Speaker 2: I did swing a bit, but you know, old news.
Speaker 2: But I told her that in confidence, and the fact
Speaker 2: that she brought that out was up and it was
Speaker 2: now that we know that she told her in confidence.
Speaker 3: Well, she Jen also told the girls in confidence that
Speaker 3: you know, she was having some issues their marriage.
Speaker 2: She didn't tell them in confidence. She told them on
Speaker 2: a television show where we watched it.
Speaker 3: But she did not have to admit. I just assume
Speaker 3: as a viewer she was talking about the swinging, soft
Speaker 3: swinging ordeal that hapen, you know, a couple years ago.
Speaker 2: Wasn't a part of that, Jesse was a part of
Speaker 2: her own soft swinging. Now, I need to know who
Speaker 2: those people are. Was that?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure the girl. I'm sure they Oh, yes,
Speaker 3: it must have been her.
Speaker 2: Then Macy and Michaela Are driving to Sunshine Buns and
Speaker 2: that's when Macy reveals that Whitney will be there. This
Speaker 2: entire thing made me very uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: Well, I would I would punch you if you did
Speaker 3: this to me. Oh, by the way, Tampa, I'm we're
Speaker 3: driving to get some coffee or something, and I'm yes,
Speaker 3: you're gonna I'm gonna drop you off and you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna be the VICKI. But also, it was kind of
Speaker 2: a brilliant idea to video, not video, but voice notes,
Speaker 2: so we could hear each other's conversation. But then she
Speaker 2: stded up.
Speaker 3: And muted it, muted it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, eh gosh. But so nothing
Speaker 2: gets accomplished here. Mikayla has no interest in, you know,
Speaker 2: having a relationship.
Speaker 3: I actually felt bad for Whitney. What is wrong with
Speaker 3: me first to Coda.
Speaker 2: Now, Whitney, because you somehow you've developed a heart, and
Speaker 2: I don't know how I've feel about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know either.
Speaker 2: But then Dakota is at Taylor's house so they can
Speaker 2: talk about the relationship. Taylor tells him they need to
Speaker 2: step back, and he starts crying, but he's understanding, not.
Speaker 3: Me feeling sorry for Dakota now not yep, of course
Speaker 3: I got to get rid of this heart.
Speaker 2: This heart is really bugging. This heart is really it's bugging,
Speaker 2: it's beating, it's doing all the things. And then it's
Speaker 2: the day of Whitney's baby shower. She has baby Bunny,
Speaker 2: so people can hold them and not her baby. That's
Speaker 2: kind of a smart plan. But also, maybe don't have
Speaker 2: your little tiny baby at the baby shower. That's also
Speaker 2: a good plan.
Speaker 3: It's more like a meet and greet, a sip and
Speaker 3: sea or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: But the baby is less than six weeks old.
Speaker 3: I think at this point, Okay, I have a confession.
Speaker 2: What somebody wants to know.
Speaker 3: Somebody recently said to me that had a baby, is like, oh,
Speaker 3: do you want to hold him? And you said, now,
Speaker 3: I said yes, but I'm thought, no, I don't.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, in some places, oh and some it's
Speaker 2: bad luck if somebody doesn't want to hold your baby.
Speaker 3: No, I can admire from afar, I'll touch its head
Speaker 3: in them raising kids for thirty nine years.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Well, then Jen shows up and tells her and tells
Speaker 2: Whitney that Laylah is the one that wrote the confession
Speaker 2: about her. And then Jen feels like Laylah is trying
Speaker 2: to fit in with Demi and Jesse just so she
Speaker 2: can be a part of Mom talks, well, good work,
Speaker 2: because this is working. And then she's done with those
Speaker 2: girls and she's.
Speaker 3: Done with going to jay Z Styles as well.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm not. I'd love to go to
Speaker 2: jay Z Styles.
Speaker 3: Jay Z Style, I don't even know Jace jay Z Styles.
Speaker 2: Is that's the hair place?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's Jesse's hair place. Yes, come on?
Speaker 2: And then Demmy and Jen do you think that? Do
Speaker 2: you think that.
Speaker 3: Jesse looks like Jen from Orange County but with dark
Speaker 3: hair a little bit?
Speaker 2: I have haven't noticed it, but now I can sort of.
Speaker 3: See he reminds me of her with just dark hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm starting to see it a little bit. But
Speaker 2: now We're starting to see that Demi and Jen's fallout
Speaker 2: stems from everything that happens in Italy. Taylor tells them
Speaker 2: all about the Center Sunday confession. Macy received.
Speaker 3: Yes, I love good work, Taylor.
Speaker 2: Don't let Macy come around and do it because she's
Speaker 2: taken too long talking about pickleball and shit. So we
Speaker 2: need Taylor to come out.
Speaker 3: And I mean, Taylor dropping the confession was epic. But
Speaker 3: how quickly these friend group changes, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like they're one they're over here, then they're over there,
Speaker 3: and then they don't like this one. They're they're they're backstabbing.
Speaker 2: But then at the same time as this all happens,
Speaker 2: which is this all great television, Jesse's hosting her Habachi
Speaker 2: dinner at.
Speaker 3: The Haabachi Dinner in the front yard, looking at the
Speaker 3: stop sign and the cars going by.
Speaker 2: I love tailor. Upset with the front Habachi, Jesse to
Speaker 2: me Leyla and Michael are there. Demi and Jesse don't
Speaker 2: really mind Whitney anymore. It's Jen they mind, and Jesse
Speaker 2: says she's going to dominate Jen.
Speaker 3: So Jen is the new Whitney now in the group. Jen,
Speaker 3: like every everybody dislikes her, Yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 2: Everybody dislikes her because why because she's a liar, or
Speaker 2: because they don't like her husband, or I don't.
Speaker 3: Maybe they like them a little too much, some of
Speaker 3: them having forty five minute conversations with him on the phone,
Speaker 3: on the telephone, on the on the dial it up.
Speaker 2: Oh, we just did the pink and the stinks. But
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