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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: I'm Chandler Rome, joined by Tyler Stafford and a very

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Speaker 1: special guest, the new Director of Hitting an offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: for the Houston Astros, Dan Hennigan. Dan, how did it

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Speaker 1: feel to be introduced with that title, maybe for the

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Speaker 1: first time since you got the job a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting title, but I was excited.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to be back with the Astros and get

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to keep things moving in the right direction, hopefully.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people this may be their

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Speaker 1: first time, you know, seeing your face, hearing your voice.

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Speaker 1: So I've got a lot of stuff I want to

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Speaker 1: get to know. I'm sure Tyler does as well. But

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Speaker 1: I think first what would be prudent is to maybe

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Speaker 1: give people a little bit of introduction, maybe who you are,

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Speaker 1: how you got here, you know, just if you could

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Speaker 1: maybe give people a little bit of background just on

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Speaker 1: your journey to this point. You went to a school,

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Speaker 1: a college, and this is not foreign to the Astros.

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Speaker 1: You went to a college that I quite frankly have

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Speaker 1: never heard of, called Franklin Pierce University, where you were

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Speaker 1: a very good baseball player and got to got to

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Speaker 1: the independent league for a little bit, got a little

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Speaker 1: bit of minor league experiences. Give give the viewers and

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Speaker 1: the listeners maybe a little bit of your journey and

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Speaker 1: how you got to where you're at right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, very good is debatable.

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Speaker 3: I was Okay, we played on a turf field and

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Speaker 3: I just smacked balls through the four hole.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I played college baseball. I guess I was.

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Speaker 3: I was the weird good enough to continue playing, but

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Speaker 3: not good enough to get drafted or signed. So I

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Speaker 3: went in. I was the youngest player in the Atlantic League.

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Speaker 3: I was the first person born in the nineties in

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Speaker 3: the Atlantic League. UH. And then the Dodgers gave me

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Speaker 3: an opportunity, and in the first inning, you can find

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Speaker 3: this somewhere in the first inning, I made a diving

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Speaker 3: play up the middle at short spun through the first

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Speaker 3: the horn, and I like couldn't pull my arm back,

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Speaker 3: my labor room. So I played one game for the Dodgers,

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Speaker 3: and UH sat in a sling for a while and

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Speaker 3: started going down this hitting rabbit hole and trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out why I sucked so bad?

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Speaker 4: Well, can you can you reverse diagnosed? Now? Looking back?

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Speaker 4: What what could you have done better?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Completely disconnected. It was all hands.

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Speaker 3: It was it was like the Charlie lal chop at

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Speaker 3: it and I'm five foot nothing, So it was. It

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Speaker 3: was a tough combo of all hands, nobody and.

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Speaker 2: And physically nobody. It's a tough combo just slapping.

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Speaker 1: So I'm wondering like, as you're playing, as you're you're

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Speaker 1: playing in college, you're playing an indie ball and then

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Speaker 1: you get U is coaching on your mind?

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Speaker 2: Are you thinking like.

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Speaker 1: I want baseball to be my life or is did

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Speaker 1: you have maybe one of those aha moments where you

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Speaker 1: kind of thought, oh, like this is what I want

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Speaker 1: to do. Was this always kind of your your career

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I guess the aha moment would be while I

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Speaker 3: was in the sling, I was watching one of the coaches.

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Speaker 3: This is right when some of the cell phones started

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Speaker 3: getting slow motion, and one of the coaches was talking

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Speaker 3: to one of one of our hitters and was like,

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Speaker 3: that's not it, that's not it.

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Speaker 2: And then he finally crushed.

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Speaker 3: One and he's like, that's what I'm talking about, and

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Speaker 3: I like looked at the slow mown it was that

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Speaker 3: And I kind of realized, like, oh my god, how

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Speaker 3: many times have I been.

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Speaker 2: Just blindly listening to something?

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Speaker 3: And of course these coaches meanwhill and a lot of

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Speaker 3: different people. But that's where I kind of realized, like,

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Speaker 3: the yes, sir, good coach, yes sir. So that that

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Speaker 3: get some results once you understand how their their body

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Speaker 4: So Chandler probably already knows this. So this is probably

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Speaker 4: a dumb question, but can you can you walk through

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Speaker 4: just on I don't know. Let's pick a random Tuesday

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Speaker 4: game in May that the Astros are playing. What are

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Speaker 4: you doing the night before? Like, what what is your

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Speaker 2: You're talking about this for this coming year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Like what do you are? You know, what

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Speaker 4: do you what do you think it'll look like?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: Like, what what does it? What does it mean to

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Speaker 4: be the offensive coordinator?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So I mean during the game, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: be in the booth, I'm going to have a headset.

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Speaker 2: We'll try to run like a spread offense. No, I

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Speaker 2: think so part of my role is the same as.

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Speaker 3: Last year, and that that was like this director of

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Speaker 3: scalable process for how we prepare, how we can integrate

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Speaker 3: you know, we kind of get crushed in in the

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Speaker 3: in the ranking system of our prospects because we've been

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Speaker 3: drafting really late.

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Speaker 2: For a while. That's what happens when you win.

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Speaker 3: A lot of games, and we've also traded a lot

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Speaker 3: of good prospects to continue winning. So I think we

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Speaker 3: were ranked like twenty eighth from Baseball America. But and

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm proud that in our hit plus stat that

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Speaker 3: Baseball America does using objective data, we came in fourth

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Speaker 3: lot of that was because we had like really cool

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Speaker 3: Aaron Westlake, and all the different departments, Like our sports

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Speaker 3: but last year he was a major help.

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Speaker 2: And then of course our GM and agms, so that

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Speaker 2: part isn't going away.

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Speaker 3: I'm still going to try to move the needle on

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Speaker 3: the processes and how we can integrate everything on more

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Speaker 3: of what you're asking and probably what fans would care about.

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Speaker 3: We'll just be the game planning side, and like so

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Speaker 3: if the question is with the day to day, we're

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Speaker 3: hopefully I'm taking the heavy lifting off of the coaches

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Speaker 3: with those guys. My role is to provide options, essentially

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Speaker 3: like clean, actionable game plans based upon what the opposing

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Speaker 3: about like ambushing or taking all the pitches, but finding

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Speaker 3: we were twenty first last year and run scored per game,

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Speaker 3: So I mean, ultimately, like the coaches and the hitters,

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Speaker 3: they can pick what fits them, but I'm basically gonna

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Speaker 3: collaborate with them and build out here's the options based

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Speaker 3: and you're not. We're still gonna get We're still gonna

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Speaker 3: have games where we get shut out, and everybody's gonna

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Speaker 3: but we're also gonna have games where like that second

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Speaker 2: Stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: So I've got a just general hitting philosophy question for me.

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Speaker 4: Pitching there seems to be more of like an attack approach, right, Like,

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Speaker 4: you've got your pitches. These are the ones that you

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Speaker 4: do well. You spin this ball, well, you throw this

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Speaker 4: plan against a hitter. A hitter to me, whenever you

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Speaker 4: talk about prepping for a pitcher oftentimes comes off as

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Speaker 4: almost defensive. It's like, well, if you're in this count,

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Speaker 4: or whatever. When you're game planning as a hitter, do

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Speaker 4: you see yourself as being the attacker or is it

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Speaker 3: To me?

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Speaker 2: It depends on the count.

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Speaker 3: But no, I would like us to be and I

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Speaker 3: say this often, I would like us to be the predator.

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Speaker 3: We understand the rules, and especially this coming year, we

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Speaker 3: know what the strike zone is. We know that the

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Speaker 2: In that strike zone unless we can continue to chase.

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Speaker 3: So if we know that, we can essentially build our trap,

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Speaker 3: we know that this ball has to try to cross it.

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Speaker 3: I would like for us to be in positions where

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Speaker 3: each of us individually can get into their personal best

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Speaker 3: position to attack and be the predator you mentioned.

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Speaker 1: I've off of those two questions, I have like fifteen

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Speaker 1: following out of me too. So you mentioned and this

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Speaker 1: is something that Dana Brown was pretty vocal about at

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Speaker 1: the GM meetings last week. Is about establishing a hierarchy

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Speaker 1: within the hitting staff, just in terms of duties, in

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Speaker 1: terms of and you mentioned you wanted to take some

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Speaker 1: new hitting coaches, Victor Rodriguez and Anthony Iopasse. I guess,

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Speaker 1: first of all, can you I presume you have had

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Speaker 1: many discussions with those two gentlemen since this has been finalized.

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Speaker 1: Just what has it been like your early discussions with them?

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Speaker 1: And I guess how do you envision once spring training

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we have spoken. The talks have been the

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Speaker 3: first part of the question was how of the talks

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Speaker 3: they've been great. I think we're still, of course getting

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Speaker 1: I'm back with Dan Hennigan, uh Astro's offensive coordinator. Hope

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Speaker 3: worded it well of like moving at least closer to

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Speaker 3: the middle.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I know that obviously most these things

442
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Speaker 4: are proprietary. I don't want you just giving out trade secrets.

443
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Speaker 4: But as a data nerd myself, I assume you get

444
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Speaker 4: to collect a ton of just fun data. Could you

445
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Speaker 4: just talk about the advances in hitting science and the

446
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Speaker 4: things that we can measure, you know, I think five

447
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Speaker 4: ten years ago, if you try to talk spin rate

448
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Speaker 4: with the average baseball fan, they would not have understood

449
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Speaker 4: that or certainly like tunneling or you know, things like that,

450
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Speaker 4: But I think they get that now. I think most

451
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Speaker 4: people who watch baseball understand what spin rate is and

452
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Speaker 4: those types of things. I don't think there's anything like

453
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Speaker 4: that in hitting. What type of data points are there

454
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Speaker 4: just in general for people to be aware of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like bat speed and swing length.

456
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Speaker 3: They're starting to show up, like just on National TV

457
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Speaker 3: now and just I guess for most viewers, Mooki is

458
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Speaker 3: one of the few that's sub seventy mile proor that

459
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Speaker 3: can still do damage consistently. There's a couple others out there,

460
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Speaker 3: but he's just the one that pops in my head.

461
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Speaker 3: Most of the guys, you do want to see them

462
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Speaker 3: like at least low seventies, if not mid seventies. And

463
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Speaker 3: so that's one thing you're probably seeing a lot. There

464
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Speaker 3: is hit what's called hit spin, So there is like

465
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Speaker 3: a stat of how does the ball come off the bat,

466
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Speaker 3: and if you can be below sixteen hundred RPMs, you

467
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Speaker 3: are flushing that ball like to the point where it

468
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Speaker 3: actually might not be conducive to traveling for a long time.

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Speaker 2: But at least, you know, like this guy's really squaring

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Speaker 2: the ball up.

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Speaker 4: So that would I mean the spin I guess that's Hey,

472
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Speaker 4: if you're hitting it dead on, it's just going to

473
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Speaker 4: come back out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it could be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does it differentiate between positive and negative? Like

476
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Speaker 4: if you get under the ball, is that a different

477
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Speaker 4: spin number than if you get over the ball? Does

478
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Speaker 4: that make sense? Like it's two thousand rpm if you

479
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Speaker 4: get under it, different than two thousand rpm if you

480
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Speaker 4: over it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, So I mean the more over it you are,

482
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Speaker 2: I mean.

483
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Speaker 3: My terrible swing would would I would truly roll over.

484
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Speaker 3: Your wrist would roll over and the.

485
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Speaker 2: Barrel would hit the top of it.

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Speaker 3: The more common ground balls you're now seeing are actually

487
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Speaker 3: more of like the barrel working up the If you

488
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Speaker 3: just do like a two dimensional X and Y axis,

489
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Speaker 3: like up the y axis too much, you're like essentially

490
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Speaker 3: playing ping pong with it. So yeah, the top spin

491
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Speaker 3: definitely affects you, but it can also benefit you. Like

492
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Speaker 3: Chas McCormick was someone who for a couple of years

493
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Speaker 3: straight outperformed a lot of expected metrics because of his

494
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Speaker 3: odd spin and like it it just kind of landed

495
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Speaker 3: in front of a left fielder and like it should

496
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Speaker 3: have probably gone right to the left fielder or stuff

497
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Speaker 3: like that.

498
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Speaker 4: So, yes, is there a pitch in baseball that creates

499
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Speaker 4: like a very abnormal you know output from hitters, like

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Speaker 4: you know does fromber sinker just have like a demonstrably

501
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Speaker 4: higher spin rate off the back. Are there any like

502
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Speaker 4: that off the top of your head that you can

503
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Speaker 4: think of that like, oh, this guy just does something

504
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Speaker 4: different than everybody else.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying.

506
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Speaker 3: I mean, you get you get a good bowling ball

507
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Speaker 3: sinker righty on righty or lefting on lefty on lefty,

508
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Speaker 3: like in on their hands, and that's going to come

509
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Speaker 3: off with a.

510
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Speaker 2: Lot of side spin with a very low exit be low.

511
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's still effective and the four seamer, like

512
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Speaker 3: you guys had dealt with it for a while with Verlander,

513
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Speaker 3: where yes, it gets a lot of swings and misses,

514
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Speaker 3: but it can also aid the hitter if he's able

515
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Speaker 3: to get to it and allow it to travel further.

516
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Speaker 3: I believe like a slider with like a good firm slider,

517
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Speaker 3: if that's squared up, that's the one that goes the

518
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Speaker 3: furthest because it sort of already has for the hitter backspin.

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Speaker 4: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned something earlier about you know, the ranking the

521
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Speaker 1: outside rankings of you know, the Astros farm system of

522
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Speaker 1: you know, and part of that is you've traded away

523
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Speaker 1: You mentioned, you guess have traded away prospects, you picked

524
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Speaker 1: low in the draft, You didn't have draft picks for

525
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Speaker 1: a couple of years for some reason. I guess I'm

526
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Speaker 1: wondering where you feel like since you got since you

527
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Speaker 1: got into the system a couple of years ago and

528
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Speaker 1: you started implementing some of this stuff, where do you

529
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Speaker 1: think you guys have made the biggest strides in terms

530
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Speaker 1: of your hitting development, And where do you think you

531
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Speaker 1: guys still have you know, room to even grow and

532
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Speaker 1: get even better.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at the risk of repeating myself a little

534
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Speaker 3: bit here, Like the hitting development, it truly has been

535
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Speaker 3: the multi departmental integration, which from the experience that I

536
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: was around, it wasn't there yet. Everybody was very invested

537
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 3: in doing everything possible and coming up with unbelievable strategies

538
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 3: for improvement, but they weren't really like cohesive we built.

539
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Speaker 3: You know, if I feel confident in what we were

540
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Speaker 3: able to accomplish last year because of the fact that

541
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Speaker 3: we had so many different good minds from different categories

542
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: coming together. So how can we continue that is to

543
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Speaker 3: make the integration even more impressive. We have some things

544
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Speaker 3: that we're doing with R and D that I think

545
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Speaker 3: can allow us to make even quicker decisions on how

546
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Speaker 3: we want to improve players and have a really good

547
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Speaker 3: sense of exactly what that adjustment can do for the player. Uh.

548
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Speaker 3: The other thing that I would and this is without

549
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Speaker 3: you know, having any understanding of what the scouting and

550
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Speaker 3: amateur look like before I got there. But Campendino and

551
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Speaker 3: his group has has been ego lists in terms of

552
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Speaker 3: they have their things that they believe in, but they're

553
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Speaker 3: also very willing to hear what we're trying to do

554
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Speaker 3: with players and really create like this true handoff system

555
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Speaker 3: of like these are scouts that are working their butts

556
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Speaker 3: off for months at a time, leaving their family, traveling

557
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: around the country trying to find these players. They find

558
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Speaker 3: ones that they're convicted in and they're essentially like handing

559
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Speaker 3: their babies off to us.

560
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Speaker 2: And a lot of times it.

561
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Speaker 3: Was sort of this process of like nobody on the

562
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Speaker 3: PD side maybe understood exactly why that scout liked this

563
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Speaker 3: player so much and what what they foresaw that player

564
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Speaker 3: becoming later down the road, and they maybe changed it

565
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Speaker 3: because they all something different and maybe both of them

566
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Speaker 3: are technically right. But now we have we're kind of

567
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Speaker 3: like pulling on two ends where now we've we have

568
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Speaker 3: a really good setup and I'm very excited about the

569
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Speaker 3: latest draft and I think it's going to continue to

570
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Speaker 3: be like a true pipeline, which is a hard thing

571
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Speaker 3: to get with. People work a very long time to

572
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Speaker 3: become a scouting director that it's a big honor. And

573
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Speaker 3: so when you get one that's willing to reach that

574
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: point and say, okay, show me what you got and

575
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Speaker 3: how can I be even better? I think that's really special.

576
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Speaker 3: And so shout out to Campendino and his entire group.

577
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Speaker 3: They have done an awesome job of leaning into some

578
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Speaker 3: of the some of our pillars on the PDS side

579
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Speaker 3: and some of the things that we have seen work

580
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Speaker 3: working with R and D to see what matters and

581
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Speaker 3: what doesn't, and continuously being willing to say, like what,

582
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Speaker 3: we gotta throw that piece out, Like I know we

583
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Speaker 3: did that for three years, but hoops instead of like

584
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Speaker 3: just like staying strong and being like no, like this

585
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Speaker 3: is gonna work when they find data that maybe something.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't all right, and I've got I'll go ahead.

587
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And now I guess now that you get to

588
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Speaker 1: lend your expertise to the major league side and the

589
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Speaker 1: major league lineup, understanding that the off season is early.

590
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Speaker 1: It's early in the off season, and we can't even

591
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Speaker 1: pencil in yet definitively what kind of personnel you will

592
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Speaker 1: have when you get to West Palm, just given what

593
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Speaker 1: could happen with trades and signings and things of that nature.

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Speaker 4: I guess I'm.

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Speaker 1: Wondering, is there one thing in your maybe in your

596
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Speaker 1: discussions with with Victor and Anthony, that that you guys

597
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Speaker 1: either want the offense to improve upon, or is there

598
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Speaker 1: one thing that you want this lineup to be known

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Speaker 1: for that maybe has has gone away in the past

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Speaker 1: couple of years.

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Speaker 3: That's a cool question, all right. I really liked the

602
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Speaker 3: second part. I liked it so much, or I forgot

603
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Speaker 3: the first part.

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Speaker 2: Say the first part, answer the second part.

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Speaker 3: So it was what do you you guys want to

606
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Speaker 3: be known for? And what do you guys?

607
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Speaker 1: I guess maybe where do you see that?

608
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Speaker 4: Where do you see.

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Speaker 2: Where do you see room for improvement.

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Speaker 1: And then maybe what in your conversations with Victor and Anthony,

611
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Speaker 1: maybe what do you guys want to be known for

612
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Speaker 1: or known as as an offense with you with you

613
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Speaker 1: three guys, maybe running it.

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Speaker 2: Right? Okay, I would like there to be.

615
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: True conviction and purpose in every bet. In certain games

616
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Speaker 3: that may be being aggressive. Uh, that's not going to

617
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Speaker 3: be super often, but that may be the case. In

618
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Speaker 3: the Blue Jays just showed that you can be extremely

619
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Speaker 3: aggressive and ambush things. And when a lot of playoff

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Speaker 3: games the Rangers did it in twenty three, they jumped

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Speaker 3: on teams, they just ambushed.

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Speaker 2: However, there's also teams like the Dodgers that just wear

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Speaker 2: you down.

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Speaker 3: I guess what I would like to be known for

625
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Speaker 3: is what I would like our team to be known

626
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Speaker 3: for is that every single game we are versatile enough.

627
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Speaker 2: I'm going to use a basketball analogy.

628
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Speaker 3: I want like five guys that can play the four

629
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Speaker 3: and the point.

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Speaker 2: Like I want to be able to be versatile enough where.

631
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Speaker 3: Our three hitter can handle a certain pitch in the

632
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Speaker 3: O count, but is also willing to take multiple strikes

633
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Speaker 3: if it's not in a certain part of the zone.

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Speaker 3: Get to that three to two count and still feel

635
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: convicted that they can win that at bat and move

636
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: the chain, and for us to be willing and able

637
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: to dramatically alter our identity game to game if it

638
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: gives us an advantage against that specific starter and that

639
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: specific group of relief pitchers we think we're going to face.

640
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Speaker 3: So I guess I would like to be known for

641
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Speaker 3: the fact that teams can't really do one thing against us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean when you can build

643
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Speaker 4: a lineup out of you know, like you said, just

644
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Speaker 4: making each pitch for the opposing team difficult too, you

645
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 4: know what you saw that at times last year with

646
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Speaker 4: the Astros. You know, obviously we all know the idea,

647
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Speaker 4: like the length of the lineup, right, you know, if

648
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 4: you've got seven eight pretty good hitters throughout that can

649
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Speaker 4: just weigh down a team, you know, throughout a game,

650
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Speaker 4: and so that that's certainly gonna be important. I had

651
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Speaker 4: a did you have any follow up channel? Because I've

652
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Speaker 4: got a hypothetical question I want to ask throw the

653
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Speaker 4: hypothetical at Okay, all right, so you can be thinking

654
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Speaker 4: of your pillars. I'm gonna just make some up for me,

655
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Speaker 4: but I'm gonna give you a hypothetical of three different players.

656
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Speaker 4: We're gonna assume that they're average at everything else. Everything

657
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: else is equal, but they do one thing really well.

658
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Speaker 4: The first one has like elite bat speed. Second guy

659
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Speaker 4: has elite bat to ball skills. You can just make

660
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Speaker 4: intact with anything everywhere. The third guy has elite plate discipline,

661
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 4: just will not chase outside, can recognize where pitches are

662
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 4: gonna be. What what of those three hitters do you

663
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 4: think would be the best vetable. So if you can

664
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 4: just make contact, if you know you're you're gonna be fine.

665
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 3: I have we have historical data that we can take

666
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: someone that can make a lot of contact and generate

667
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: bat speed.

668
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: Okay, that was I was going to ask that.

669
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: And then beyond that, and then what we are in

670
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: no way like the cutting edge of that. Like every team,

671
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: not every team, but a good chunk of the league

672
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: can also do that.

673
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: This latest year, uh, we had.

674
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: We had in many ways proven at least amongst a

675
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 3: group of players that had outrageously bad chase rates and

676
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 3: the minor leagues. We were able to move the needle

677
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: in in a way that we were not able to

678
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: do previously. So I'm very happy with that. I do

679
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: think some of the stuff we referred to it as

680
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: windows and weapons, but like are the strategy we implemented

681
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: and sort of the customized customization of how we were

682
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 3: able to do that, even for the minor league guys,

683
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: even some of them in the low way and fail

684
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 3: being able like we by the end of that year,

685
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: we saw the most pitches in that league. We were,

686
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: you know, near the very top and runs per game

687
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: and walk rate in zcon or how often you make

688
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: contact on a pitch you decide a swing at that's

689
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: in the strike zone. And this was a group that

690
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: everything in our system would tell you like, they're going

691
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: to chase way too much, They're going to swing way

692
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: too much.

693
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: And in one year we were able to change that.

694
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 3: So we have the data that we can we can

695
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 3: mess with an approach, we can alter that we can

696
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: absolutely even just without a batspeed program, even just like

697
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: cleaner kinematic sequencing.

698
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: Or I already gave some love.

699
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: But our our SNC coordinator, Zach Redding, like it if

700
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: we give him the idea of this.

701
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: A player, he can come up with the plan and

702
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: make it better.

703
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: Those guys are gonna move faster and swing harder the vision,

704
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: the depth perception, the understanding of like where my bat

705
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: is in space.

706
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: That's a much harder thing to teach someone.

707
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: And the hardest thing about hitting as opposed to pitching,

708
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: I would say, is you apply something to the ball.

709
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 2: It's like an input and an output. You did that thing,

710
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 2: the ball now does this thing, and physics runs its course.

711
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: On the hitting side, you could have the perfect kinematic

712
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 3: sequence and still missed by eighteen inches.

713
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: So if you have someone that.

714
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: Just inherently does not have a good feel of how

715
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 3: they can make a bat touch the ball, that's hard.

716
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 3: But I feel pretty confident that if we can get

717
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: the bat to touch the ball, we have enough data

718
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 3: and I think I would like to say I have

719
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: enough creativity that we can create different angles to make

720
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: the the ricochets and the geometry game of baseball play

721
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: out better for us.

722
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: That's the hardest part.

723
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: I feel like you just described a little bit of

724
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: the Astors current major league lineup, Like there are guys

725
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: that swing a lot, but there are there are guys

726
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: that swing a lot in that chase. But there are

727
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: guys that do that because they have such good bat

728
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: to ball skills, because they have such good way to

729
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: put the ballton ball like is what you just said?

730
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: Is that transferable? Like you said it worked in Fayetteville

731
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 1: with a lineup of guys that on paper it would

732
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: seem that they would not do Like, is that able

733
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: to be translated to guys on a major league team

734
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: that have been doing this for a very, very long

735
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: time and they're not as young as those Fayetteville guys

736
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: that can maybe molded a little bit.

737
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: I can say with certainty on the on the private

738
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: side of things with personalized players, absolutely, we've already seen it.

739
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: As far as a team, I have to do a

740
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: good job.

741
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: I was not a good hitter, you know.

742
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: So if I don't do a good job explaining to

743
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: players that are already significantly better than me that these

744
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 3: are things that can also make you better and here's

745
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: the plan that gives you personally the best opportunity, then

746
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: they probably won't do it, and they probably will continue

747
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: to do what they feel most comfortable with and how

748
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: they feel when fight or flight kicks in, what is

749
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: going to give them the best chance. But if we

750
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 3: do a good job of educating, and Vic and Bosie

751
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 3: are outstanding at communicating, if the three of us can

752
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 3: get through and really show like you know, Kobe was

753
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: constantly trying to get better year after year, and I

754
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: think that's where you get the real killer instinct.

755
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: And I think we have that.

756
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: In our players here. So it's up to us to

757
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: make sure that we make them feel comfortable and making

758
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: some of those adjustments and being confident that this is

759
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: a benefit.

760
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: Philly guy bringing up Kobe.

761
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 4: Right, do you think that you.

762
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: Would have said AI but he didn't practice, but Ai was.

763
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 4: Do you think that you have a good sense? I mean,

764
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: obviously scouts and things that can do this, but I

765
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 4: don't know just hearing you talk about how you can

766
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: approve so many other things. You can improve approach, you

767
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: can improve even bat speed, those types of things, but

768
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: there's something innate about, you know, just the vision and

769
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: things like that. Can you tell looking at a spreadsheet

770
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: if someone has like the ability to hit or not.

771
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 4: I know that's a silly but I mean, like if

772
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 4: you haven't seen them hit, Like if you've got a

773
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 4: list of you know, two hundred minor league free agents

774
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 4: and your task is to find one that you know

775
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 4: might turn into something right, like, and you're just looking

776
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: at that data. Is there something that you look to

777
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 4: first to say, you know, let me sort is it?

778
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: Like bat speed is it? You know whatever? Like if

779
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 4: you're just looking through a whole bunch of names and

780
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 4: you're just trying to figure out who has potential in here,

781
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: what would you look at first?

782
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: So to your first question, like who's not going to

783
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 3: pan out? If I saw very little chase and also

784
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: saw very little contact, that's scary. Those those are scary

785
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: for me because it's just hard. When I was with

786
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: the Twins, like that was sort of my job, like

787
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: we were the objective was to kind of be like,

788
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: you know, eventually like the Rays of the hitting world,

789
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: where like the Rays do a good job identifying this

790
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: no name and we think if we acquire him, he

791
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: can do something for us.

792
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: I think the askers have done an amazing job with that.

793
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: Falvi was was doing a really cool job, and and

794
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 3: and Levine of trying to do that on the hitting side,

795
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: and and so I got to kind of poke around

796
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 3: with some theories and see what we could find. That's

797
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: a tough one that you really don't see if they

798
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: aren't chasing, and they wi a lot like they better

799
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: launch balls because that's a. That's you very see that

800
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: one make it to like double A and still pan out.

801
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: Uh what was the other part?

802
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 4: Like if you're okay, so now you say these people

803
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 4: have potential or you know they don't have the crazy

804
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: uh no chase rates and they're they're not wing or whatever,

805
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 4: like what measurable are you sorting by quickly to say like, okay,

806
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 4: who's standing out in these or these are the ones

807
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: that I think are important?

808
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: So on a spreadsheet, I don't know if I could

809
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: confidently be like that's the guy. Yeah, spreadsheet and some video,

810
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: some side angle, some some center field angle. I think

811
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: you can start to make cleaner decisions. And some of

812
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: that's based on the biomechanics and the swing shape and

813
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: then also seeing of the categories you mentioned earlier. If

814
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: you if you get good swing decisions and good mechanics.

815
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: You can start to do some cool stuff with that.

816
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: If you get goods, if you get good bat speed, uh,

817
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: good kinematic sequence. But like the ground ball rates really higher,

818
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: the or the spray charts really bizarre, I feel pretty

819
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: good about we can manipulate angles and and start to

820
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: make that ball go places that we think is cooler

821
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 3: for us to those guys.

822
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about now.

823
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what Tyler and I would look like

824
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: on a spreadsheet if you if you put a if

825
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: you put our skill sets on a spreadsheet, whether we

826
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: would make it or not.

827
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with no.

828
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: But who definitely no.

829
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: I'll work for I'll work for the league minimum.

830
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

831
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: If all you gotta pay me is a league minimum,

832
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: just give me an invite to camp. I'll do it.

833
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, I'll take I would love the league.

834
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 4: How fast if you if you were given the task

835
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 4: of giving me six months to swing a bat as

836
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: fast as possible, going from I haven't played baseball since

837
00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: high school, barely in high school, how fast do you

838
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 4: think I could swing a bat?

839
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 2: And six we start?

840
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 4: I mean literally thirty three year old dad who has

841
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: not played baseball in a while. But if I'm in

842
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 4: good enough shape, if you're if your only focus is

843
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 4: to maximize my bat speed, how fast do you think

844
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 4: I could swing a bat?

845
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: I think we can get you to I feel good

846
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: about mid sixties.

847
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: I feel oh, no chance, that's crazy. You think you

848
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 4: think that much of it you can get there. That's

849
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 4: I mean, jose L Twoby swings sixty nine. There's no

850
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 4: way that I'm swinging anywhere near that fast. That's crazy.

851
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: He's doing that when he's when he's trying to square

852
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: something up coming very fast at him. If if you're just

853
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: okay boring pitches, we can we can go okay, all right.

854
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: He's just talking about like you airing it, alet Tyler.

855
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, what's the fastest that you've seen?

856
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: Oh uh, we had a guy he actually is in

857
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: playing in Mexico right now.

858
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: His name is Narciso Crook.

859
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: In our building, I'm not sure what he did in

860
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: games in our building. He's gotten up to the high eighties,

861
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: like eighty eight, eighty six on certain swings. It's like

862
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: he's come in. He has come a very long way.

863
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: He got a very quick cup of coffee with the

864
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: Cubs in the big leagues, and actually I think he

865
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: did pretty well up there. But that was outrageous batspeed.

866
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: And he's he's still working his butt off. He comes

867
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 3: in in the offseason and we met him much later

868
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: in his career, but that that is some outrageous batspeed.

869
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 4: For for context for everyone last year, do you have

870
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 4: a guesses who led the major leagues in average batspeed?

871
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: Dan, I have a guess Stanton Stanton.

872
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 4: Stanton Stanton averaged eighty point six and he swings like

873
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: a maniac. So mid to high eighties is insane. I

874
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 4: mean again, I know, but.

875
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: If you put out to a that date is coming

876
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 3: from Hawkeye.

877
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: If you put out two on a blast, his stuff

878
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: might say seventies six. Oh really Yeah, So.

879
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: There's that much of a difference. Now in in measuring,

880
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 4: that's not like universal across teams or minor leagues or

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Speaker 4: anything like that.

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Speaker 3: In theory, it's universal, but you you definitely get different readings.

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Speaker 2: The i m u's the Yeah, I am an INERTIOW

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00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 2: measurement unit.

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Speaker 4: What does that mean?

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00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: It's just basically a speedometer.

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00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: That's how you need Okay, Oh, it's it's in the

888
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 4: knob of the bat. Yeah, I think okaytch.

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00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: Different than markerless, which would be Hawkeye.

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00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 4: Oh, this is fun. We could we could do this

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00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 4: for a while.

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00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: We're kind of moving into words I've never heard before,

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00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: So I think that, uh, I think that may be

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00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: our Q to wrap it up a little bit. But Dan,

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Speaker 1: before we let you go, I am gonna give you

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00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: a plug here you've been saying in our building. In

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00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: our building, you know, Dan is going to be the

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00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: hitting coordinator, the the director of hitting and the offensive

899
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Astors. But he does have another another

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00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: side hustle. It's called Brain and Beryl. If you'd like

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00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: to get more and learn more about that, there's a

902
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: great video of Dan talking about hitting and his approach

903
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: to it. It's Brain and Barrel hitting dot com if

904
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: you'd like to check that out, Dan, anything else you

905
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: want to pant it? Dan, anything else you want to

906
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: anything else you want to plug about Brain and Beryl

907
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: and just kind of what you guys do there and

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00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: why that's well, it's been influential and kind of how

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00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: you've grown your your your hitting philosophy.

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00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 3: No, this is this is for the Astros, and I'm

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00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: excited to I'm excited to see the Astros get back

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00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 3: to where.

913
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: We want to be.

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Speaker 1: But i's sure thank you for That's why I waited

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00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: till forty six minutes in to do it. Dan, This

916
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: was great, man. I told you we'd keep you for

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00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty minutes, and I lied, so but this

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00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: was excellent conversation. We really really appreciate you given us

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00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes and what I know is a

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00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: very busy time for you trying to trying to get

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00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: everything together and ready to go for spring training, and

922
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: we really really appreciate this was a fun This was

923
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: a fun interview.

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00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate you guys.

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00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: Thanks for being welcoming enough throwing me any landmines today.

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00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: That was nice of you.

927
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Speaker 1: Never never, never, now, wait till the season starts. There

928
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 1: it is, wait till the season starts. As always, guys.

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00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: We will be back next week right before Thanksgiving to

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00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: talk about you know, what the astros do at the

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Speaker 1: tender non tender deadline, what the what the roster looks

932
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: like going forward, and some Thanksgiving talk. We'll be back

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00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: next week, but until then, you can rate and review

934
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: us on Apple. You can rate and review us on Spotify.

935
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: You can subscribe to the YouTube channel. See you get

936
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: notified every time you post we post a new episode

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00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: like this on with Dan Henigan. You can follow Tyler

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00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: at Tyler C. Stafford on X can follow me at

939
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: Chandler Underscore Room.

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00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 3: Dan.

941
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: Are you on Twitter or X or whatever?

942
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 2: It's called now We're not I am that call.

943
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: Good for you, good call, but keep a lookout for Dan.

944
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: If you don't like the play calls in the first

945
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: series of the year, you know who to blame. You

946
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: can blame the offense coordinator. So thanks again Dan. This

947
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: was great and we will talk to you guys soon.

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Speaker 4: Remember in life you can always just swing harder. Bye.