WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, January 2 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:06.040 Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football bottle but every day. 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.240 This is very low rent for a town that prides 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:15.640 itself on having such an NFL tradition. It is Thursday, 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:23.040 January second, this is Jaguars Happy Hour. And now a 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:29.360 guy who's JAY stands for Judy j P. Shad Rick. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:32.960 I don't even know what that is in reference to 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:37.200 your JAY stands for Judy. Your first name is Judy. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.720 I didn't know that. I didn't either act. What is 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:43.440 your first one? What do you about? Jerry Alabama Gay? 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.400 Yeah that's not accurate either, but yeah, welcome in Jack. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.440 What is what is Jame P stand for? James Patrick? 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.600 Do we have to one of those? Is right? We're 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.840 not going anywhere until you well? Alright, So we've got 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:02.160 plenty of other discuss James Ball, Jared Patrick. Jared Patrick 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.920 like so you and the guy from Subway shared the 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.880 comment no no no no no no no no no 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.600 no no no no. You might want to back that 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:20.120 train on up, buddy. This is Jaguars j Tony Boselli, 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.800 Jerry Judy. Here's what's coming up on the program called 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:29.120 Well and Maron Quick Talking Called Well Maron return communication 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.520 will be improved, they say, we'll hear from those guys 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.600 coming up the off season schedule. We're there now, So 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.800 what's coming up in the next month or two, including 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.600 the NFL Draft. The build up begins that Jack's have 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:45.720 two first round picks here in nineteen. Let's start off 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.520 with the press conference from earlier this week on Tuesday, 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:52.400 Dave called well general manager, trying to get those players 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.800 to help out the coaching staff. We could help coaching 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.080 staff by making better decisions and the guys we bring 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:03.400 in for them, and and also really supporting our players 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.600 that we have here. And I think we'll have the 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:09.400 coaching staff, head coach Doug Maron trying to get everybody 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.919 collaborative effort coming into one decision. I'd like to create 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.400 this this environment. What what you're looking at is, as 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.040 you're focused on myself, Dave and Shot because we report 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.480 the book, what what we've talked about of doing is, 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:28.079 you know, making sure that it's not just the individuals 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.480 that are able to communicate directly with each other. We're 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.280 talking about taking you know, our coaching staff, with our 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:38.120 scouting staff, you know, with with and really putting it 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.959 in a in a true, true partnership where we're meeting 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.240 and talking and doing that and coming to decisions. I 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.280 think that Dave would agree, and and I've been a 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.240 part of it before, is that when we when we 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.840 do that, you know, things become clear on exactly what 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:57.040 the vision is that we want. So my responsibility as 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.880 a head coach is to be Okay, this is the 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:01.960 this is what our philosophy is, this is what we 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:03.760 want to do, This is what we want to be 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:05.760 as a football team. This is how we want to 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:10.240 play offensively, defensively as special teams. Outline that give a 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:14.320 clear picture of exactly what we believe we need. Okay, 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.920 in communication with Dave and his department and really coming 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.680 fold as one. So the press conference was fairly lengthy 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.520 on Tuesday, after announcement from Jaguar's owners dot Com about 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.040 ten o'clock. The announcement came down the press conference at 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.880 three o'clock. And I will hear a little later today 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.600 from some other thoughts from that press conference. Yes, Tony, 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.240 So I was in El Paso for the press conference. 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:39.800 I didn't see it, and I've seen clips of it 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:44.880 now and everything else. It's shocking to me, like shocking 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:49.520 that they weren't already doing that. I mean, isn't that 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.760 what you're supposed to do? And how you build a 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:55.400 team that as when you're picking players, you're picking players 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.040 based on what the coaching staff has lined out, the 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.640 type of players they want, they need, is the system 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.880 we're going to run. This is what we want and 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.720 everyone is working together towards the goal of winning a championship. Well, 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.920 I think I think when you listen to that and 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:13.280 then you you read the reports that was I think 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:17.800 not long after the Tom call from press conference where 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.320 the reports between scouting and coaching was toxic I think 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.839 was the word that was used. I think just listening 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:26.680 to the press conference, I think it was very apparent 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:30.080 that that wasn't going on before. But didn't that shock you? Yeah? 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.440 Very much? So, I mean I would like assume that's 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:36.240 how like, that's how it happened. I cover a bunch 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:40.440 of games throughout the year outside the Jaguars and talked 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.000 to a lot of people and coaches and every everyone 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:48.200 else from front office people, and that's just like how 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.400 I was done. It's done. Give you an example because 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.120 arguably one of the most respected personnel guys in the 0:04:55.200 --> 0:05:00.400 National Football League. Is Ozzy Newsome right? That Hall of 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.240 Fame executive sat down with him three weeks ago for 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:07.159 twenty five minutes talking to him. Uh and I and 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.240 one thing he said, and he said it before in 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.479 the past, and it has always stuck with me, is 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:16.159 that you all, you never draft somebody that the coach 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.159 doesn't want to coach, he said, because it it's it's 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:24.760 a it's a disaster for failure immediately, because if the 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.760 coach doesn't want the player to begin with, where is 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.760 it going to go. So you want you want a 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.919 player that the coach wants to coach, which means that 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.960 you have to get some of his input on that 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:39.279 player and also what type of player that guy needs 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.039 to be. And uh so, yeah, I mean I was 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.320 with you, Tony, and then I was very surprised that 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:48.880 that that was I mean, they didn't say it didn't 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.560 happen before, but I think by them talking about it now, 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:56.160 it's very apparent that that wasn't going On another they 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.479 did say it wasn't happening. Doug Groan said, this is 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.080 what I want, which you I'm shocked. I mean, that's 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.640 surprising that that wasn't happening before. I mean, most scouting 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:10.640 staffs and coaches become essentially scouts with most teams in 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.560 the off season for a period of time to where 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:17.520 they have to write reports that they sit in on 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:22.120 the meetings where where you're kind of stacking players positionally correct, 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.440 I mean, and and that's how most organizations that we 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:31.120 absolutely and at the bare minimum, the coaching staff meets 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.200 with the personnel people, going over every position and saying, here, 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.400 the metrics, here the what we want. This is what 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.360 we're looking for. A corner that's about six foot, he's 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.560 got this kind of lank, he's got this kind of speed, 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.320 you know, etcetera, etcetera. Same thing with offensive line. Hey, 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.600 we want to right guard that is a bulldoze or 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.680 he doesn't need to pull much because our left guard 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.600 is gonna pull more our right tackle. Here's what we need. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.080 I mean, So you're you're given kind of physical and 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.480 athletic requirements to the scouting staff so that you can 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.200 run your systems. How do you jump start that though 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.320 it hasn't been happening. That's gonna be interesting because if 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.560 it hasn't happened before, then you're you're essentially you're essentially 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:14.200 breaking new ground going forward. Um, So it's gonna take 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.920 a collaborative effort. It's gonna take a lot of effort 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.000 on both sides. It's gonna take a lot of time 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.480 because I mean, that's a relationship from all appearances, that 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.800 wasn't there before. So now you have to build that 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.560 because relationships just don't. They don't happen overnight and then 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:34.040 don't you don't say all of a sudden, Okay, now 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.040 that we both report to the owner and we have 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.520 to work together, now we're just gonna do it. I mean, 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.560 there's got to be a trust, there's got to be 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.600 a system in place to where to where that that 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:50.080 can be positive and thrive. And so that's a big 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:54.120 challenge for this organization going forward. It certainly is, and 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.880 it'll be interesting, interesting next few months for this Jaguars organization. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.480 Doug Maron said that the coaches are off until the 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.640 thirteenth of January, a little time away, which the evaluation 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.520 of that. He said, it's not done either. When the 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.520 coaches get back, they'll be a little more evaluation of 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.560 his staff. Well, I think most teams, I think the 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.840 smart coaches or head coaches or organizations I think are 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.280 smart and that you let your coaching staff kind of 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.960 step away to detach a little bit of emotion from 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.800 the season, away from it, and then and then come 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.560 back and then apply yourself again and and give yourself 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.480 maybe a I don't want to say an unemotional approach 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.360 to the evaluation, but a little less emotion certainly can 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.679 be good sometimes when you're value about trying to be 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.120 trying to give an honest assessment of your players. And look, 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.319 if something is fresh on your mind about a j P. 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.320 If you're my MIC linebacker and the last game you 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.840 screwed up something and I told you three times about 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.040 during the course of the week of practice, I might 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.720 give you a bad grade for the season just because 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.200 I told you three times. I'm still mad, you know. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.120 So allowing the coaches to detach a little bit this 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:01.920 case can be good. Well, no, it can go the 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.000 other way too, just because like I always think, the 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:09.120 danger of Week seventeen is is putting too much into 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.840 it one way or another. Because when two teams are 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:13.920 out of it, that's the game on Sunday was and 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.040 you saw throughout the league crazy things happen. I always 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:17.880 say week one, Week seventeen, or the two weeks that 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.120 don't put too much stock into anything. Week one you 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.480 get crazy games. It's the first time, first time you're 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.240 game planning everything else. In the week seventeen, you have 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.440 guys with different motivations out on the field because you 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.040 know guys that you know, we're just out there just 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.200 trying to protect themselves, not to get hurt. Guys who 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.920 are you know, want to make a great last impression, 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.760 and everything in between. And so if you put too 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.800 much into that one game, the same thing as Jeff said, 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:44.760 is on the negative side or the positive side, you 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:49.000 can either undervalue or overvalue a where you are as 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.679 an organization but also individual players. And I think so 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:53.760 it's critical you gotta step back and you have to 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:57.600 be able to take an honest I think the honest 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:01.360 reflection and honest assessment where you are as an organization, 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.640 where you are at certain positions on the roster and 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.280 everything else. And I think the really good and the 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.960 great organizations are masters at that that they are able 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.040 to sit back and to make an unemotional evaluation of 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:17.160 where they are from a from the top all the 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.520 way to the bottom, every part of the roster and 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.599 make decisions based on what it's going to take to 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.440 become a great organization to win a championship, because that's 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:25.680 all that matters at the end of the day. The 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.640 only thing you should be striving for is to be 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.679 on the stage at the beginning of first week of February, 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.839 hold hold on the Lobarty Trophy. I mean, that's all 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.080 that matters at the end of the day. And so 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.240 the danger is a lot of times and I think 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.000 it's happened here. I mean, is you overvalue you you 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.200 You're you you you, And I think it happens all 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.720 the time throughout the NFL that you're not honest with 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.920 yourself of where you sit and what you need to 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.720 do to take the next step towards a championship. You 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.200 make a decision, you believe in that decision so much, 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.040 and then it may not work like you had thought it, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.800 but you believe it to. Could it could be It 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.360 could be a lot of different things that you believe 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.720 in or overbelieve in. UH. It could be UH an 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:12.360 overvalued assessment of coaches. It could be undervalued assessment of coaches. 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.880 It could be an overvalued assessment of players. Or an 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.760 under the value undervalued assessment of players. It can it 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.719 can mean a lot of different things. Well, I think 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.679 a great analogy in the business world all the time, 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.160 I've heard this multiple times and been around it is 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.840 never fall in love with the deal, because as soon 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:29.640 as you fall in love with the deal, you stop 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.480 looking at all the wards and all the problems and 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.760 everything else, and you've conveyed the alternatives or the alternatives, 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.640 and you convince yourself that you're so in love with 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:40.160 this deal or this transaction or this product or anything else, 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:44.120 that you are blinded to all the things that are 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.320 you know, good, bad, ugly alternatives other ways, and you'll 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.960 end up doing it or making a decision just because 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.079 you've you've committed that this is what you're gonna do, 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.400 and you fall in love with it. And that's the danger, 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.840 I mean. And it's a real talent to be able 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.800 to step back, be unemotional about it, and look at 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:06.040 the situation and say I'm gonna I'm gonna evaluate this 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.760 every day until the end. And it's hard. It's hard 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.640 because I mean, you're you're invested human nature, you know, 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.800 I mean, it's it is, it's human nature. I mean, 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.280 it's uh, it's it's no different than like an official 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.679 that you're hoping that is impartial. But human nature is 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.400 human nature. You know, things influence you and and certainly 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.079 I don't think anything influences you more when it when 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.920 it affects you directly, or that you're trying to evaluate 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.440 a decision that you made in the past, you know, 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:32.760 will that be a as a coach or as as 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.840 a player or as a personnel guy. I mean, sometimes 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.680 you look, you've got skin in the game, and when 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.360 you've got skin in the game, sometimes it's it is hard. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.600 It's hard to be honest, and it's hard to be 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:50.320 subjective and impartial. We're back in a moment and we'll 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.400 delve into some of the personnel, including Unique and Goe 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.480 and what his future could hold with And I think 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.480 that's the perfect thing to start off with when we 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.119 come back, because much like we're talking about being impartial, 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.000 I mean, you know, he's he's there guy. You know, 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.720 so here here, there's a motion attached to this, and 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.640 so this is a perfect example of sometimes hey, look, 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.080 you you might need to detach a little bit here 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.160 in this situation to make the right decision and the 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.920 right decision could mean a lot of different things. We're 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:22.440 often running Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday on the 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:32.360 Jaguars Digital Network. 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Dave Coldwell, 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.440 Jaguarro Jaguars general manager, in a Tuesday press conference in 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.680 Jaguars Happy Hour rolls along J. P. Shadrick with Jeff 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:26.120 Lagavan and Tony Boselli. Priority number one in this offseason. 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:30.800 Yanniken gotkwa, you heard it from the general manager. That's um, 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.080 that's the top of the list. That's the first thing 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.840 that he said they want to get done somehow. How 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.199 do they get it done? I don't. I think I 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:42.320 would probably debate whether that would be number one. UM, 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:50.119 for me, the the continuation or the search for a 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:55.960 franchise quarterback should always be priority number one. And I 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.360 said just before that until you know you have one, 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.280 you cannot rest, and that you need to continue to 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:07.160 search and to try to find that guy, however that 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.119 may be. And I think right now that you feel 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.960 good about your quarterbacks, as Doug said in the press conference, 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:14.800 and that you've got two guys. Were in the past 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.840 you maybe felt like you didn't even have one. But 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.600 I don't think you've sit there and are going, oh, 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.879 we've got two franchise guys, you know. So for me, 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.719 the search for for a franchise quarterback should be priority 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.520 number one. So that said, how do you and what 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.800 do you get done with unique? And guy? Wait, if 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.399 you can get something done? He turned down nineteen million 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:41.760 last year, uh, which I think with about fifty million 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.119 dollars guaranteed, forty eight million dollars guaranteed something like that. 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:45.879 I can't remember. I can't remember exactly. I don't I 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:47.960 don't know what the guarantee was. But Tony looking at 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.119 Lawrence's contract with the Dallas Cowboys, he was like a 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.080 five year, hundred five million, and I want to say 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:59.399 that guarantee was in a fifty million range. So I 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:01.680 mean so so I mean, for Godway, you're looking at 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:04.440 in the future going forward. I mean turned down what 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.320 nineteen a year, whatever the reporter guarantee was. But I mean, 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.280 I would think that the deal is not going to 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.880 be less than what DeMarcus Lawrence or what Frank Clark got. 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.640 I mean that I think that's your starting point. And 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:22.000 for for an organization that doesn't want to have anything 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.560 reflect negative negatively upon them and want to give the impression, hey, look, 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.280 we're trying to do everything we can to win and 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:31.840 to get out of the seller of the NFC South, 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.919 I think that creates a little bit of pressure to 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.119 sign a guy like Yon Nike and Gockway. Uh And 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.240 is that is that right or or wrong? I'm not 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.480 It's not the position you want to be. First of all, 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.600 you never should sign a guy for pr sikes or 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:47.960 because you're afraid of looking bad or anything. And I'm 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.800 not saying that they're going but I mean, well, I'm 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.480 just I mean what you just said, if that's true, 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.720 and we're speculating because neither of us know, but I 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.199 don't think you ever make a decision on any player 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:03.320 because of what the fans want, or what the perception 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:07.520 is or anything else. You only sign you like. For me, 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:11.760 you signed you Uniken Gockway for whatever the number is 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.480 gonna be, if it's twenty one million dollars, million dollars, 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:18.320 only if you feel like he is a dominant player 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:20.720 at his position that will help you win a championship. 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.439 That's the only reason you signed him, no other reason. 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:27.080 There's not another reason in the world. You sign Union Dockway. 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.840 Now if you believe that, and that's what this organization 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.840 if Doug because according to the what we've heard now 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.000 is he doesn't have a much higher say and in 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.479 personnel moving forward. So if Doug and Dave and then 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.959 ultimately shot, if they determine that Uniken Gockway is a 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.200 guy that's gonna help them win a championship and he's 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.760 a dominant player at the defense end of position, then 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.320 you go pay him the number that it takes to 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.760 get him signed. And if you don't, then you don't 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:55.560 sign him. I don't care what anyone thinks. I don't 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.560 care what we think. I don't care what the national 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.399 media thinks. I don't care what the fans think. I 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.680 don't care what any of those people think. If you're 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:04.840 sitting in Dug and Dave's. You don't make the decision 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.040 based on what we talk about. You can make a 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.200 decision if we think it's the dumbest thing ever. Who 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.920 cares You have a conviction that this is the guy 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.840 that helps us become better it don't sign him. Otherwise, 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.000 if you if you completely ignored money, you want you 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.840 want him back, period. You take a levet of those guys. 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.000 I mean, oh my god, he does everything to write. 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.359 And let let me say this. If there was any 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:32.960 player on this Jaguar's roster that that if they shut 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.760 it down somewhat in that last game against the Cults, 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.200 that I might understand it a little bit. It would 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:39.920 have been in gock Way and he did. I mean, 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:43.720 we're talking about a guy who, if he has a 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:48.600 significant injury of some kind in this last game, could 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:55.439 cost himself literally sixty million guaranteed dollars. Let me repeat that, 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:58.160 if he had to sustain a significant injury, he could 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:03.720