WEBVTT - 24KGoldn 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:04.800 Hello everyone, and welcome to inside the Studio on iHeart Radio. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:15.080 My name is Jordan Runtald, But enough about me. My 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.079 guest this week has the number one song in the 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.560 country at this very moment with Mood, which is topped 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.760 the charts for his eighth week now. His inventive blend 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.119 of hip hop, pop, punk, and alternative rock have not 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.880 only set the streaming services ablaze, but have also made 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:30.840 him a smash hit on TikTok, where songs like Valentino 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.800 have gone viral. A Bay Area native, he went to 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.479 USC for business until music came calling. Now when you're 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.200 number one, where else can you go? Turns out lots 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.400 of places. He's eager to spread into film fashion and 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.440 recently appeared on the podcast Halloween in Hell. And that's 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.159 when he's not busy working on his first LP, El Dorado. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.760 I'm so happy to welcome to Carrot Golden, Golden, Thank 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:55.640 you so much for taking the time. First of all, 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:57.040 how are you today? You always got to do the 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:01.080 quarantine check in feeling good, feeling grounded. Yeah, and not 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:05.000 the worst day in the world. You know, it's a Monday, 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.560 but it's sunny, like you said, oh Man, that's what 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.320 we that's what we like to hear. Well, I should 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.160 hope you're feeling good because at the very moment, your 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.480 song Mood is the number one song in the country. 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:17.559 How does that feel for you? Man? It feels good. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.759 I'm glad that people like my music and they want 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.280 to and that they care about what I have to 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.039 share with the world. When did you first learn that 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.320 it was in the top spot? I think about maybe 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.680 like six or seven weeks ago, um, and it was 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:34.600 just been like kind of mind blowing to me that 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.760 it's been. They're still to this day, like there's been 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.120 a lot of really really good music that's come out 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:46.360 this year, and this song is like really performed beyond 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.440 all of that, which is just awesome to me. Tell 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.720 me about writing the song. I understand Call of Duty 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:56.279 was involved, Do I have that right? Big inspiration? College 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:00.120 Duty was a big inspiration. We're basically just all in 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.920 at Ian's house and um playing Call of Duty, playing 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.880 video games, and Omer starts playing one of um one 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:12.519 of Ian's guitars, and um, they I just hear this 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:17.600 like guitar riff, that's that's just so enticing, so intriguing, 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.000 and without even realizing that I start singing, um the 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.320 chorus to mood like I just started making it up 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.560 on the fly and with and Omer hears me seeing, 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.240 He's like, yo, come like lay that down that she 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.520 was hot. So I go and I record my part 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.320 and then boom, it was a whole mood. Did you 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.000 have a feeling that this song was gonna go all 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.120 the way? If anybody ever says that they make a 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:43.760 song while playing Call of Duty randomly and they predict 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.560 that it's gonna go to number one, don't trust that person. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:48.960 They are a liar. There's no way I could have 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.200 known that this is gonna happen. It's gonna be like 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.320 a really weird year to have a number one. I mean, 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.120 not being able to tour, not being able to like 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.040 just see people and see what it looks like to 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:01.520 have a number one record. How has that been for you? Yeah, 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.320 I only like no half the battle of having the 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.840 number one. Like I've done all the promos and the 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.720 videos and the and and you know a little bit 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.640 of the performing with the live performance stuff. But I 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.000 felt like a lot of the um, a lot of 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.760 this stuff that I was looking forward to that came 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.040 with the number one. That's going to be a little 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.919 bit delayed, But it's a blessing and the curse because 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.440 I think I probably would have been overwhelmed if I 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:31.040 had to do a tour while all this other stuff 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:32.760 was going on at the same time. Man, I can 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:34.800 only imagine. Has it been a relief in some way? 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.040 Its just being able to to stay home and chill 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.640 because you were on the road with Landing Cuban, playing 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.280 Rolling Loud and doing all sorts of stuff. Has it 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.360 been kind of relief just to stay settled for a bit. 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.600 Every day is a little bit different. Some days it's like, 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.880 oh my god, I'm so glad, like I didn't have 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.840 to I'm so glad I just get to go home 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.720 and chill and watch Survivor for three hours. And some 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.400 days it's like what is the purpose of my life? 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.680 Like I can't be on the road, Like what am 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.760 I doing? Like I feel incomplete? So, you know, it 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.360 just depends what day it is. Well, you're hard at 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.880 work right now and your debut op El Dorado. How's 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.960 it going? Man? This has been some of the best 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.400 music I've ever created in my entire life. I'm just 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:19.280 thankful that I got good friends, uh and people that 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.120 care about me to hold me down during this quarantine 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.880 and and give me the tools to make the best 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:29.440 music possible. Your your EP Dropped out of College was 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:33.200 such a diverse blend of hip hop and pop, an 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.560 alternative and rock. How is your sound evolved for this LP? 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.200 How would you describe it? So? I think with the 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.640 EP Dropped out of College, it was me kind of 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.360 like poking around it a lot of different things, kind 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:48.920 of just like it was a costco sample run of EPs, 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.320 if you may, you know, trying to just figure out, like, yo, 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.520 can I do this? Pop? Okay? I give you pop? 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.760 Can I do trap? Okay? Do trap? Can I do rock? Okay? 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.520 I can do rock? Do imo rap? Okay? I can 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.640 do that? And just kind of testing out what I 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.360 was really capable of. And and with this, with this 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.880 debut album, El Dorado, I feel like I have a 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.440 better understanding of my capabilities and now I'm like, how 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.680 can I push myself to to the furthest limits of 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.039 all these different sounds and and mix them together to 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:22.000 create something that is truly unique and truly golden. What 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.720 is your process like do you write melodies first or 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:26.400 do you work with beats first or how do you 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.800 do it? I'm more often than not a melody first 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.760 type of guy. I feel like melodies drive the whole songs. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.599 That's where the feeling comes from, you know, the way 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:39.160 you say something um just as much as what you're 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:43.280 actually saying. So a lot of times I'll be inspired 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.520 outside of the studio, Like I'll just be walking or 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.240 driving by myself, or like take a bite of some 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.240 really good food and boom, like a melody just pops 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.200 in my head. Like it's it's like it's like a 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.679 lot of you know, like do have a certain set 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.159 of stimulations and environment and people around and things going on, 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.599 and every once in a while it'll just pop out 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.440 of fire melody. So I'll just take that and and 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.520 kind of like as raw inspiration, and then when I 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.360 go in the studio, I refine that raw inspiration into 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.400 something that's more cohesive and has a message and has 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.440 a story to go with it. When your your hooks 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.960 or your hallmarks, he does these massive, massive hooks. What 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:22.719 is a good hook for you? Is there? Like you 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:24.360 just know it when you hear it? Is there? Like 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.080 something you specifically look for. I try not to think 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.440 too much, because I feel like thinking is the opposite 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.320 of like being it creating, you know. It's it's so 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.480 easy to get caught in your in your own head 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.160 as an artist. So really it's just I go off 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.800 feeling like, is this catchy? Is this something that I 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.040 don't mind listening to a hundred times over and over again? 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.680 Because if I don't mind listening to it a hundred times, 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.080 everybody else probably will not mind listening to it a 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.040 hundred times either. So just something that that that I 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.839 want to keep saying over and over again, or that 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.000 I don't mind listening to over and over again, it's 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.960 a good strategy. I think. I read that the Beatles, 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.680 whenever they were working on songs to other they didn't 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.159 like to to put it down on cassette tapes because 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.800 they thought, well, if we can't remember it tomorrow, how 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:07.839 can we expect other people. So that was like they're 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:11.200 built in quality control. Yeah, just if you don't if 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.080 you can't remember it, Like sometimes I'll remember a song 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.240 lyric or a melody from like a year and a 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.280 half ago, and that would be a sound like, yeah, 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.200 maybe I should go back and work on that, because 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.280 if I remember that all the way, so now it 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.800 might be in some special Other people well too, have 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.880 you been feeling productive in in in quarantine musically? Like 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:29.680 I know a lot of people either like you know, 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:31.800 really getting to it every day and doing their thing, 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.640 and other people are just like, all right, I got 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.680 out of bed today. That's We're good that this is this, 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.920 this is the highlight of my day. You're feeling productive 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.120 and good. Yeah, I feel like I've gotten to the 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.440 point where it's like I've worked so far ahead in 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.840 the future i don't even know what to work on 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.600 anymore because I don't know where I'm gonna be at 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.200 that point. Like, Yo, we have so many great songs 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.160 for the album, so many incredible songs that had to 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.679 be cut from the album. Like, I have no idea 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.160 what the second album is gonna sound like. So now 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.960 I'm just trying to connecting with the fans day inspired 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.680 and and just you know, maintain happiness and satisfaction and 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:08.200 peace of mind. Your new song Coco's got the Baby 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.160 on it, You've had You've worked with Fettie wap on 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.480 Drop out of College. Who else would you like to 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:16.000 collaborate with? Like my My Dream, Dream collaboration is drake 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.000 for sure, but you know that will happen when the time. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.760 When the time comes, I'd say, like, out of my 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.040 my friends and my peers, I want to work with 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.960 Little nos X and kid Leroy the most. Those are 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.280 just two good friends of mine who I really admire 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.840 the music making abilities. So I think a collabor from 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.840 from us would be just extraordinary. Talk a lot about 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:42.280 Billie Eilish too, Any any updates on on her so um, 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.959 I guess in a previous interview, I said I wanted 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.000 to take her out for sushi, and I was very uh, 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:52.080 very bluntly informed by her fans that she's actually a 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:58.319 vegan and she hates sushi. She likes like for sushi. Yeah, 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.840 I don't know. You know, I tried my best, so 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.120 so maybe we might have to pull a little a 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:17.040 little vegan play of some sorts. I gotta asked me, 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.400 at what point did you know you wanted to make music? 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.200 Was there like a lightning bolt moment for you. I'm 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.839 always fascinated with people who are are able to write 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:25.600 like that. Did you know from early on that you 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.839 were able to write? I was, I've always been good 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.280 with my words and I've always had a special connection 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.880 with music. But I think to be an artist is 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.040 it takes a lot of confidence, you know, to to 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.640 put yourself out there in a permanent form like this 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.320 is this ain't no snapchat songs like this, ship doesn't 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.560 go away in twenty four hours. This is yo, this 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.480 is me, This is what I have to say, this 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.480 is how I have to say it, and I'm putting 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.000 it in a way that I hope stands the test 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.559 of time. And I didn't get that confidence until I 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.440 was in high school. And when I made my first song, 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:59.320 it just felt so natural and and so right and 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.640 so purpose full that I was like, you know, if 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.520 I stopped doing this, I think I'm gonna die, Like 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.680 I can't not make music like this just feels too 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:10.319 good and and too right. So it was somewhere, it was. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:11.960 It was really after the first song, I was just 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.720 hooked and I was addicted to making music. What would 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.200 you say to fourteen fifteen year olds out there right 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.760 now who who loved music and are struggling to find 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:25.079 their voice. Man, keep going, don't get discourage. Nobody's first 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.040 record is a is a number one smash. I had 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:32.000 plenty of awful trash ass. I don't even want you 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:36.040 to hear it. Sounded songs before, before mood was even 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.800 a thought in my mind. So don't be too hard 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.000 on yourself and make sure you're still having fun because 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.360 at the end of the day, you know, happiness and 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.880 and and enjoyment, that's what life is about. And if 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:52.640 you're not having fun, why I torture yourself. You're born 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.520 and raised in the Bay Area. How does that influenced 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.560 you as an artist? I think being from the Bay 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.760 gives you a sense of uh innovation that a lot 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.720 of places don't don't have built in Like we worship 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.640 technology in the Bay Area, Like it is a Silicon Valley, 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.199 very tech driven place. It's tech and culture really and 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.800 that's where the two meet in Bay in San Francisco. 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.640 So just being able to see both sides, Like you know, 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.160 this is where some of the greatest art comes from, 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.280 some of the greatest food comes from, some of the 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.720 most creative minds in the world. Yet you pair it 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.280 with with the innovation of Silicon Valley. How can we 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.280 do things better than we did it before? How can 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:38.240 we challenge the preconceived notions and and the habits that 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.120 we've fallen into as as people, you know, And when 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:45.440 you combine that that challenging mindset with creativity, you just 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.880 get how can I be the most creative I can be? 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.600 How can I spread my light to the world in 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.040 the greatest way possible? And I feel like that's just 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.920 something that sits deep within invation. It's been so interesting 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:00.880 to watch TikTok become a bigger platform for launching music. 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.520 I mean, especially your songs like Valentino and Mood. What 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.720 do you think about It's it's it's growing role in 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:10.240 uh in launching artists. I think TikTok is is popping 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:13.920 because it just communicates most directly to like what people want, 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.520 you know, Like a lot of a lot of social 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:20.560 media platforms, they'll leave you feeling like you're less stand 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.120 where I feel like TikTok can leave you feeling like 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:27.000 you're better off than you were before. Like whatever it 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.520 is you're looking for, the algorithm knows and it helps 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.120 you find that. And I think, you know, like that's 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.199 the best way to spread music because that's where it 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.079 has the most attention. And all I did was figure out, like, yo, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.760 how can I share myself and share my music in 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.600 the most authentic way on this app, and people respond 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.920 really really well to authenticity on there. And I'm just 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.080 fucking around and having fun making dumb videos like I 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.440 did when I was in middle school on Vine and 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.640 I think like that the genuine enthusiasm um carries through 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.839 in the music and the and the content. So it's 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:03.800 just like the perfect connection and it's good music. People 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.880 can't help but I want to listen to it. I mean, 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:09.720 mood has been used a ludicrous number of times in 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.200 in TikTok clips. Have there been anyones you've seen that 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.320 are your favorite? I can't even keep track of it anymore. 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.960 Like I feel like every TikToker and their mama has 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.280 literally and their mama like Pattison Ray's mom probably used 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.200 that ship too, but every TikTok or has been on there. 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.640 I'm just glad that that you know like my music, 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.640 because TikTok is a lot younger than you know on 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.560 Facebook or Instagram or Twitter. Like my music is speaking 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.400 to the people to the next generation, Like my music 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.720 I inspire to uplift and inspire and and the fact 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.400 that it's resonating with those those people that are growing 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.400 up and like have the most pure open mindedness like 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:47.880 that that that's a sign to me, Like, Yo, I'm 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.600 on the right track. This music is doing what it's 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.120 supposed to do. And you're right. I mean, I'm at 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.360 the age now where TikTok intimidates me. Do you have 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.040 any tips for like if I want to make my 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.560 first TikTok? I think you just gotta go on the 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.960 app and just scroll a little bit, like what you like, 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.160 skip past what you don't, and just understand the culture better. 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.080 Because what makes TikTok different from any other social media 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.920 platform is that there's a genuine sense of community on there, 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:15.199 like inside jokes and and you know, like just little 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:19.240 things that exist within that community that don't exist other places. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.200 So dig into it, don't be scared, don't be shy. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.360 I put some more, as they would say, speaking of 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.920 new media, among the many, many, many things that you're 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.040 involved with right now, you were part of the Halloween 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.680 in Hell podcast series, Uh, starring you, Machine Gun, Kelly, 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.640 Tommy Lee, all sorts of great people. How did that 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:40.680 come about? Um? You know, it's just a natural extension 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.880 of storytelling. I feel like podcasts and having to be 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.560 able to combine like more literal storytelling with musical storytelling, 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.920 like for the first time. That was a really dope 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:51.920 experience to me. And I got to do it with 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.440 my friends, and I got to do it with Jingle Jared, 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.320 who's like a goat a god in this podcast game, 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.560 you know, So it was a it was it was 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.080 something new for me. That was that was building the 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.720 pawn ship that I already liked to do, and I 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.440 got to make good music in the process of it, 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.360 Like me and m g K. That was our first 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:14.560 uh collive, and I'm really proud of that. I mean, 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.280 he's a legend in his own right. He's one of 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.200 the like he's had something, he's had longevity that is 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.640 very rare in this game, and he's been able to 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.720 transform from a rapper to a rock star and just 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.520 do him whatever that is at the given moment. So 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.480 it was it was dope to to watch him and 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.040 learn from him and have him tell us stories about 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:41.160 his highest highs and lowest lows and and just knowing 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.960 that like, yo, it's gonna be okay, Like ship ship 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.160 gets funked up in this industry, like this is not 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:51.040 by any means a smooth ride, but it's it's a 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:55.280 ride worth uh riding. I guess to to say the least. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.160 Earlier in your career, you did a lot of commercial acting, 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.800 and you said that you to expand into into film roles. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.560 What kind of roles would you want to look at? Yeah, 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.520 when I was a kid, it was more like, you know, 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.680 like student number three at the Lunch of Bulls commercial. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.280 But but now you know, I got my site set 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.560 on on bigger, bigger and better things. I definitely want 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:20.280 to do TV acting and film acting. We're working on 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.640 like my own scripted show right now for uh, for 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.520 a TV series based on my life and how like 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.440 I dropped out of college and moved in to this 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.200 crazy house in Beverly Hills and my friend and his 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.600 family who who became like his mom is my agent now. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:37.800 But I was just like a rapper moving in with 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.840 this like very nice Hollywood Jewish family. Like the contrast, 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.920 said I, and like, yeah, real fresh Prince of Beverly 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.160 Hills type ship. So that's something I'm working on. Yeah, 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:49.600 I was gonna ask you, what was it like moving 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.840 from the Bay Area to Los Angeles, the whole Northern California, 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:56.360 southern California things. Was it a real different vibe. Yeah, 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.560 everybody thinks Callie is all the same, but no, California 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.360 is very different. There's a lot of different bubbles. Like 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.199 in the Bay, first of all, it's cold as fucking 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.119 it's hoggy every day. In l A it's hot as 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.879 fun and it's smoggy every day. So it's like, you know, 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.840 it's kind of the same, but it's different. People are 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.560 are all like pretty nice, but I feel like in 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:20.719 the Bay, like their their niceness is more authentic, And 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.280 in l A someone could be like smiling your face 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.640 and then stab you in the back without you even 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.879 expecting it. So just getting used to to the differences 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.960 in people and an environment out here from up there. 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.360 I hope you haven't experienced that yet. Hey, it's part 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.680 of the game, man. I'm just taking these as as 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.879 life lessons and and I still got a smile on 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:42.639 my face, you know, because that's all that matters that 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.040 I have to say. You are a a style icon 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:57.879 for any of you listening right now who don't know 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.720 style icon in the making. Do you feel like your 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.639 style has changed it all since you moved down from 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:08.760 from San Francisco. Yeah, but probably less with me moving 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.000 and me getting more money to buy the clothes I 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:15.760 actually want. It's a very good point, but yeah, I'll 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.880 definitely take that title of style icon. Like there's been 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.800 so many things that like I would wear or like 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.399 wearing my clothes a certain way, and and motherfucker's will 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.359 roast or they'll be like, man, I don't get it. 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.280 Why is he? Why is he got the bell bottom 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.679 pants on? And then boom a year flashes forward and 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.720 now everybody's wearing bell bottom pants and I'm just sitting 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.520 there on my arms crossed, Like, man, I told y'all, 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.600 I told you all this is gonna happen. What is 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:45.320 your your favorite piece, either jewelry or sneakers. I know 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.240 you're a big sneaker head. What is your your absolute 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.720 like prize in your possession. Oh that's such a hard 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:56.120 question because every piece got its own its own skin 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.840 in the game. You know, every pie's got its own story. 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:03.080 But I would say just as far as like, uh, 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:09.600 sentimental value, probably probably just like my parent John Elliott 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.000 air Force ones, Like it's such a plane shoe, right, 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.680 but it's something that you can wear with everything. It's 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.760 something that like I've had some of my greatest memories 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:22.720 and you know, and some of my most comfortable shoes. 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.439 So just something that's that's stable. You know, it's not 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.040 the craziest piece in the collection, but it's the one 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.399 that we go way back and I know these these 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.160 shoes are gonna hold me down forever. What is your 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:37.640 craziest piece in the collection? Craziest pieces? I mean, well, 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:41.520 it could be the custom St Laurent Bell bottoms I 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:43.560 wore in the A m As that they had to 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.760 cut two pairs of sequence two thousand dollars Sat Laurent 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.760 pants to make. Or it could be the Kanye West 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.240 Louis Vuitton Jaspers that I've been I in since I 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.480 was like fourteen years old, or or is it the 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.320 custom twenty four Carrott necklace that I designed my self 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.840 and watch the whole process go to represent El Dorado. 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.320 I don't know. It's up to It's up to the people. 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.000 At this point, I got too many crazy pieces. What 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.399 is your your go to quarantine outfit? I feel like 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.199 everyone now has kind of changed his style because you know, 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.960 it can't go out as much. True, It's like, yo, 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.440 y'all can see me in sweatpants, like you can't see 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.760