1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: They welcome back with the Johan Hannity Show. This is 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Jay Secular and Jordan Secular in for Sean Hannity. We 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: are I gotta say this right now, you're looking at 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: what's going on in the air when it comes to 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: balloons and spy balloons and regular balloons and the trains 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: that are derailing with toxic material airplanes hitting each other. 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a dysfunctional government. And I am 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: thrilled with our next guests, who we got has really 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: been a friend of us for a long long time. 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: That's right. Tulsi Gaverage Jordia, US now twenty twenty Democrat 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: presidential candidate, a veteran for Riccago, Swivian, and she's been 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: speaking out on this issue involved the East Palestine, Ohio. 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: It is horrendous. I'm sure if anybody's been watching, it's terrible. 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: Just the imagery and you know, just from the imagery alone. 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: When you see the EPA co about and said, well, 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: if it's been tested and that got the check from us, 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: we drink the water. And then you think about govern 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: you see about Campell's you to these other issues. We 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: see you say, do we really want to trust these 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: guys are this issue with We know over time it 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: could be decades later to clean up at ground zero. 22 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: The list goes on, let's talk to our friend Tulsi Gebert. 23 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: It's a great podcast. By the way, I've had the 24 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: privilege of being on. Tulsi. Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're with us. I want to get you. 26 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: You know you have You've got a unique situation. You've 27 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: served in Congress, you're serving our military, so you've seen 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: a lot from a lot of different sides. You look 29 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: at what's going on now you kind of have joke, 30 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: but it's also very serious. You've got balloons being you know, 31 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: Chinese spy balloons being shot down, and then we shoot 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: down with military, and then you can't play military for this. 33 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: They did what they were told, three balloons that apparently 34 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: were like launched by the Northern Illinois Balloon Brigade. You 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: got a train derailment in Palestine, Palestine, Ohio with toxic, 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: toxic materials coming out, and the people there are already suffering, 37 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: and this is gonna make it worse. Airplanes are hitting 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: each other on runways and near missus as they're landing. 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: You know, like I said, you've served in Congress, you've 40 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: served in the military. Well what are you seeing right now? 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: I really want to get your view on that, because 42 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: this is the merrif. Yeah, Dan Jordan, it's great to 43 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: talk to you. Look, it would be too simplistic to say, well, 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: this is a failure of leadership. We have to go 45 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: deeper and understand why. On the issues that you've raised, 46 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: as well as so many others that we could cite, 47 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: whether it's the open border or their collusion with big tech. 48 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: There are so many, so many issues that we could 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: cite that point to this failure of leadership. But it 50 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: all comes down to the reality, which is they don't 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: care about our country or the American people. That is 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: the only conclusion that can be drawn from this string 53 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: of failures that are undermining our constitution, undermining our freedom, 54 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: and ultimately causing harm to the American people and to 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: our national security. So when we look at this response 56 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: that they've had to the unfortunate catastrophe that the people 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: in East Palestine are really struggling and suffering through, is 58 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: number one. They did not They did not do what 59 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: was necessary to prevent it. When you look at the 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: Pete Buddha Jedge interview. He did I think yesterday or 61 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: the day before, where he says, oh, well, you know, 62 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: this incident is gaining particular attention, but they're over a 63 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: thousand train derailments in the last year alone, as though, 64 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: hey guys, there's not that much to see here because 65 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: train derail all the time. Like, I don't understand how 66 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't see the problem in that statement of saying, well, 67 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: hold on a second, why is that the case? What 68 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: are you as a director of transform You put it? 69 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: You put a small town mayor that they bragged about 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: in charge of one of your biggest departments, the Department 71 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: of Transportation. By the way, you may have had derailments, 72 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: but the end of derailments with toxic fumes in the air, Yeah, 73 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: it is a shocking dumber though, Tols. You just to 74 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: hear that we have that made derailments and we put 75 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: together this one point two trillion dollars infrastructure program. He 76 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: talks about all these all happened last year. They act 77 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: like they haven't been in office, like they've just like 78 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: he just walked into the Department of Transportation today and 79 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: so he just like we're spending the buddy, or Americans 80 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: think we're spending the buddy on infrastructure, but it's not 81 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: going to the infrastructure obviously that we need to get 82 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: up to speed. And then you see this horriddous action 83 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: and this move. Even FIBA has said this, it's not us. 84 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: Don't come back at our door, you don't. We don't 85 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: handle these kind of situations. Yeah, you know, Jordan, That's 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: exactly the point is they're not taking responsibility for this. 87 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: They come and spend our taxpayer dollars on this, you know, 88 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: trillion dollars infrastructure bill, and meanwhile are not actually addressing 89 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: the real infrastructure problems that we're facing in this country. 90 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, the catastrophe in East Palestine is getting a 91 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 1: lot of attention. There was another train derailment in Michigan 92 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: yesterday that also was carrying toxins. They were able to 93 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: turn the rail car right side up again after it 94 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: went off the tracks without any damage at least that 95 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: we know of at this point. But the point is 96 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: to your listeners. Right now, Americans across the country are 97 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: starting to think, well, hey, where are the nearest train 98 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: tracks in my neighborhood. What risk is you know, me 99 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: and my family, my kids, my loved ones at next 100 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: time they are trained as they do running across this country. 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: When you have the corporate leaders like Norfolk Southern who 102 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: are completely abdicating their direct responsibility for this catastrophe, and 103 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: of course our federal government leaders and a Biden administration 104 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: who are doing the same, they don't care. They are 105 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: not investing in the kinds of technology and safety mechanisms 106 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: necessary so that those who do live near these train 107 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: tracks complete peacefully at night knowing they're not being put 108 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: at risk. But the root cause of this is they 109 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: don't care. They care about themselves, no political ambition, their 110 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: own enrichment, but they do not care about the American people. 111 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: And that's where we have to demand more and get 112 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: these people out of office. We have heard, and I 113 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: have not verified this independently, We've heard that Norfolk Southern 114 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: has sent out a thousand dollars to individuals within the 115 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: zip codes that are being impacted by this. Let me 116 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: just give some free legal advice, which you know I've 117 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: done a couple of cases here and there, like a 118 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: lot of them, and including at the Supreme Court multiple times. 119 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: If they're offering you a thousand dollars. I wouldn't be 120 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: cashing that check. But that's tough for those a lot 121 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: of I know it is right now because they are 122 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: all lawyers and law firms that would do this. Yeah, 123 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: represent these people. And you know what, Norfolk Southern came 124 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: back because some have said it you're by the way, 125 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: would you cash this check? You can't hold us a 126 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: release right for anything. You could no longer idiactions related 127 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: to this incident against they're new responses. They got the 128 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: wrong letters, so they got caught, and they said, these 129 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: people got the wrong letter. This was about letting us 130 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: on your property to do well. They got caught. See 131 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: what I mean is they're getting caught. We live at 132 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: a social media age now these big companies for taking 133 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: us to get away with is that we see that 134 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: our own family and grandfather who worked at a plant. 135 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: They thought you could just pay it off. It's such 136 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: a small amount and they didn't go to attorneys at 137 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: that time, but it could have been worth billions even 138 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: back in the day. Tels me when I look at 139 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: the situation what I call the government dysfunction, and we 140 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: talk about it in the situation with this toxic train derailment. 141 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: We've talked about it with the what's happening on the 142 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: airlines and the cancelations. And then China launches a spy 143 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: balloon that the United States knew it was launched, Our 144 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: government tracked it, went throughout the entire traversity the entire 145 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: United States over a military basis, including your home state 146 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: of Hawaii. And here's what's so fascinating to me. The 147 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: head of Nora RAT and I'm not blaming him because 148 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure this is the information they gave him. The 149 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: head of Nora RAT says, we've had domain gaps in 150 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: our ability to track this, which ended up not being 151 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: true that because they did track it. So we shoot 152 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: this one down after it's done all its spine over 153 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, the coast of South Carolina, and then we 154 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: shot three you know snoopy balloons or whatever they were 155 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: down this over the weekend last weekend. This is to me, 156 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: this is absurd. Now you've served, you were in the military, 157 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: you've served a long time. I don't get what they're 158 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: possibly thinking. And this is dangerous for the American people 159 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: without a doubt. And you know what what links um 160 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: kind of all of these things together Jay is is 161 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: don't don't forget what we've recently learned now that they 162 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: shot those other unidentified spplying objects down with a four 163 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, four hundred and fifty thousand dollars missile each time. 164 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, they missed one one time, 165 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: so they had to shoot at it again. Um. You 166 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: look at the over trillion dollars that they claim that 167 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: they're putting forward towards infrastructure. Meanwhile our infrastructure is crumbling. 168 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: This is dysfunction, This is a failure of leadership, and 169 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: ultimately it comes down to those who are shortsighted, who 170 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: are not not making decisions based on the best interest 171 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: of the American people in our country. We look at 172 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: we look at the Department of Defense budget for example, 173 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: we look at, yes, I still serve lieutenant colonel in 174 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: the Army Reserves. I'm hitting close close to my twenty 175 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: year time in service anniversary in April, and I recognize 176 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: very well they need to have a strong go ahead 177 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: terry defend our country. But you look at how they're 178 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: spending our money. Where are they where are they spending it, 179 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: how are they wasting it without any accountability and doing 180 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: so in many cases in ways that actually undermine our 181 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: own national security, and that's something that should piss off 182 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: every American. You know, I was thinking about the four 183 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars you know, missile that we're launching. And 184 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: again I mean the military, the pilots are being they're 185 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: doing what they're told they got in order take it down. 186 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking about this. We know that it costs 187 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: more than four hundred thousand, because you got an F 188 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: twenty two. This is an expensive aircraft. So listen, it's 189 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: still dangerous. Anytime they're flying at mak who knows what, 190 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, going towards an object, things can happen. Unfortunately, 191 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, nobody got hurt, but in the military trains 192 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: for this. But this was the first time, Tulsi, we 193 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: deployed missiles from an aircraft inside the continental United States. 194 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: And it was after it looks like it was the 195 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: Illinois you know, Northern Illinois Bottlecap balloon Brigates said they're 196 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: playing their balloon went down about that time. You could 197 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: laugh about it, but you can also cry about it. 198 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's preposterous that this is the intelligence 199 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: we had. I can't Rick Ronell's coming on here later, 200 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: I want to talking about this because to me, Tulsa, 201 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: and like I said, you're in the military, lieutenant colonel, 202 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: how is this possible that what this was? And this 203 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: is what's interesting to Jay is you're saying that this 204 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: is based on the intelligence that we have. We we're 205 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: hearing Washington Post, I think, reported yesterday, amongst other many 206 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: other news sources, that there is an unnamed intelligence official 207 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: who's now reporting that, yes, they were tracking, you know, 208 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: the first big balloon ever since it launched from Hainan 209 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: as it drifted down towards the South Pacific, towards Guam 210 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: in Hawaii. But then they are assessing that it was 211 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: likely strong winds that started pushing it towards the mainland 212 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: and they lost control. Anyway, the point here is that 213 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: there is new information coming out. This information is being 214 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: routinely dismissed by the State Department and US senators, both 215 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans, which point to what is the agenda 216 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: that people have. Is there a disconnect between intelligence agencies 217 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: and the military and the White House. Are they dismissing 218 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: information that isn't convenient for whatever their objective may be. 219 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: The truth matters. We need strong leaders who can make 220 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: the best informed decisions on the best interest of our country, 221 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: not based on an emotional, knee jerk reaction or out 222 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: of concern of what a headline may say about them. 223 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: So see if people I encourage people to watch your podcast. 224 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: I think it's great. Where's the best place for people 225 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: to go to get great information about what you're doing. 226 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: You can follow me on all social media channels at 227 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: Tulsi Gabbard. You can follow me and subscribe. I encourage 228 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: you to subscribe on YouTube again at Tulsi Gabbard. I'm 229 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: taking on a lot of issues like the ones we're 230 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: talking about here and trying to shine a light of 231 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: the truth and common sense on this instanity that surrounds us. 232 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: Like I said, we're thrilled that you're with us. We've been, 233 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: like I said, we've been friends and friends or your 234 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: family for a long time, and it's great, Avignon. We 235 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: appreciate insights and outlook on all of this. I have 236 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: to say something here. I mean, these are common sense 237 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: principles that when when John Kirby starts talking about Admiral 238 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: Kirby starts talking about you know, we're gonna come up 239 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: with a core principles that they need to be listening 240 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: to people that actually know what core principles mean. Yes, 241 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: and they should have been done. I mean, how do 242 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: we how do we not have core principles set up? 243 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: Because these balloons that we shot down now over the 244 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: week and if we believe them, we believe Kirby and Biden. 245 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: Now have people have been doing this for years. This 246 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: is not new technology and they decided to shoot these down. 247 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: You needed core principles before that that these had no 248 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: You realize there was no connection between these three incidents 249 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: and the Chinese balloon. They want you to put this 250 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: all together and say, I'll see we get tougher and 251 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: tougher as we got used to this Chinese spy ballood. No, 252 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: as Tulsi said, as what we we've talked about too. 253 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: They tracked that balloon from the movid it launched, and 254 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: they wouldn't shoot it down when it was over the 255 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: water of the West coast when it was over comed 256 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: up to Hawaii. Order as well, could have got rid 257 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: of it very early then, but they didn't take action 258 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: that they shot down three board Blue try to make 259 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: them look tough that have nothing to do with spy 260 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: programs and post no risk to the public or military. 261 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: You know, we got more with the Sean Hannity Show 262 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: coming right up. By the way, Jordan, I host a 263 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: program called Seculo at Noon, so we encourage you to. 264 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: You can check us out at ACLJA dot org. Get 265 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: information about a broadcast, follow us on all the social 266 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: media at Jordan Seculo, at j Seculo, at Logan Seculo 267 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: at ACLJ. More the Shawan Hanny Show. In just a moment, everybody, 268 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. J Seculo and 269 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: Jordan Seculo sitting in for Shawn. We head up an 270 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: organization called the American Center for Law Injustice ACLJ, which 271 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: a lot of you joined, I have to say, last week, 272 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: and we appreciate that, and many of you are joining 273 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: today as well at ACLJA dot org. We talked to 274 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: you a little bit about that victory we had against 275 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: the National Archives. We'll getting more into that, but there 276 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: was another case that was going on in Washington, d C. 277 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: With all this discussion is about China and the balloon, 278 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: the spy balloon coming over the United States, traversing the 279 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: entire country. Our friend who's been a friend in a 280 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: client of the aclj's for four decades. Pat mahoney is 281 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: with us on the program. Pat, You've done I can't hundreds, 282 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: probably thousands at this points of civil protests all over 283 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: the country, of course a lot in Washington, d C. 284 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: Tell folks what was going on, because folks, this is unbelievable. 285 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: If you got mentioned the Chinese government at their embassy 286 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: telling the Secret Service that public sidewalks are theirs instead 287 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: of the United States, and the Secret Service initially saying 288 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: yes it is. But I want Pat to set the 289 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: stage of welcome to broadcast, Pat, but tell everybody what 290 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: you were doing out there. Sure Ja. First of all, 291 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me on the program. 292 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: So we scheduled an event, a peaceful demonstration. At the 293 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: event at a Chinese embassy, which I'm going to say conservative, 294 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: We've had seventy five over the past ten years. It 295 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: was the name of the event was no to Spine, 296 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: Yes to Freedom in China. And we did something kind 297 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: of creative. We got these helium balloons about two feet 298 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: in diameter. We had two of them, and we were 299 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: going in front of the Chinese embassy to contront them 300 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: and challenge them on their violation of international and American 301 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: air space. I need to say, Pad, by the way, 302 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: that size balloon now could be shot down by the 303 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: United States military, so don't let it go. But go ahead. 304 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: Tell us what happened, Jordan, I gotta tell you. When 305 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: I got out of the car, I was just hoping 306 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: I would make it to the front of the embassy 307 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: with the balloon to dock. But anyway, so as I 308 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: always do, I go talk to law enforcement before we 309 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: do the event. Introduced myself, say what we're going to do, 310 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: and I was a little bit surprised. When I got there. 311 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: There were several Secret Service cars parked in the road 312 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: in front of the Chinese Embassy, several motorcycles and Metropolitan DC. 313 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: Please and Jay, what happened next? I have to say 314 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: you and I often say we should never say. I 315 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: can't believe this happened, but it happened. For the first 316 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: time in my forty six years of public ministry. I 317 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: went to the Secret Service. I said, we're going to 318 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: peacefully demonstrate, as we have for many times here. The 319 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: Secret Service said to me, Reverend Mahoney, you can't demonstrate there. 320 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: If you do, you will be arrested. We were talking 321 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: with it, Okay, I got we got to stop right there, 322 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: stop for a second path, because I want to set 323 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: the stage here. And one of our senior councils, the ACLJ, 324 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: former assistant US Attorney and headed the Criminal Division for 325 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: Department of Justice in the good old days, Andy Economo, 326 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: was with us and Andy just setting up what Patria said. 327 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: He's on a public sidewalk that the Chinese government is 328 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: claiming is China's right, and it is not Chinese. A 329 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: public sidewalk is a public forum, additional public farm. It 330 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: belongs to the people of the United States of the municipality, 331 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: and Reverend Mahoney had every right to be there to 332 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: peacefully protest as long as he was doing it consistent 333 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: with what the local ordinances are. He has he has 334 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: always done so, and so the Secret Service had no 335 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 1: business telling him we represent the Chinese. They own it. 336 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: You can't be on this side. So pat for people 337 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: that are listening into the John's program here that may 338 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: not have known the secrets, and I have a lot 339 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: of respect for the Secret Service. They do a great job, 340 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: but obviously they're being you know, getting mixed signals. What 341 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: did the Secret Service agent or officer actually tell you 342 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: about where you were and whose property it was. So 343 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: they told me on the public sidewalk, which is right 344 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: in front of the main embasy, that that was not public, 345 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: that that was and I'm quoting him now directly Chinese property, 346 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: that because of the balloons shootdown, there has been a 347 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: lot of tension and in relationships. They had meetings with 348 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: embassy officials and the Secret Service was telling me if 349 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: I went onto that public sidewalk, where I have been 350 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: at least seventy five times in the past before peacefully demonstrating, 351 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: I would be arrested because it was not American property, 352 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: it was Chinese property. And I could not believe the 353 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: United States Secret Service, who I deeply respect, also would 354 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: being guided, intimidated and bullied by the Chinese government. Well, unfortunately, 355 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: a pat it is believable because it happened, and it's 356 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: what's happening is the sensitivity of the situations have gotten 357 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: to the point. First of all, the Chinese government. We 358 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: had on Christie Nome, Governor so Oft Dakota, who we've 359 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: represented also, who's trying to stop this acquisition of property. 360 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: But Jordan, to me, the irony of this is pat 361 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: is standing on public property Washington, you see, owned by 362 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: the American people, open for free speech. We've argued those 363 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: cases for four decades at the Supreme Court. We've never lost. 364 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: We've won them unanimously nine zero in the Jews for Jesus. 365 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: I can go through list after list after list of 366 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: free speech access cases we won. Yet the Secret Service 367 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: gets the word from the Chinese Communist Party's embassy because 368 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: that's what it is, and they say, hey, this is 369 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: China's property, as if that was the edict. After years 370 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: of having no issue doing a peaceful protest on that 371 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: public sidewalk, and you know it took I think you 372 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: to bring it like a sergeant to get this. This 373 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: is to me, this is the absurdity is that they 374 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: defer to the Chinese Communist Party public protest. I be 375 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: thinking about that for a minute. This is a country, literally, 376 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: this is not funny. But they are engaged in at jitticide. 377 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: There is no freedom of speech and they will mote 378 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: you down with the tank that they literally have done 379 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: on a public forum, and they are going to tell 380 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: American police security anybody about where what's public. They don't 381 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: like you said, mind set very important understanding where the 382 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: Chinese Copyist Party is where they say China first. President 383 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: Trump would talk about the tide. That's he do go 384 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: into meetings with them. That's what their mind set was 385 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: was China first. They they're just they're gonna search to 386 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: the police. There's no there's that's that's our sidewalk because 387 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: they don't even understand the concept. Nor did there Uh 388 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: the folks at DC their their embassy staff of freedom 389 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: of speech. No, they don't know freedom of you know, 390 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 1: here's the other thing. So we talked about Andy that 391 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: this is a public sidewalk into the public form. But 392 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: what pat was engaged in holding a sign passively flying 393 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: the balloon, which made the point very clear, you know, 394 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: no spying, But how about human rights? That is pristine 395 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: First Amendment protected speech. There is nothing more publicly protected 396 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: speech than what Reverend Mahoney was doing. Absolutely nothing. And 397 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: what bothers me is to paraphrase what Jordan was saying, 398 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: instead of taking up the position of an American citizen 399 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: that we have a First Amendment in this country and 400 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: we have the right to peacefully protest the Secret Service 401 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: agent thanks the position of the Chinese Communist Party and says, no, 402 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: this is Chinese property. You got to get off of here. 403 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to approach. And they got this information 404 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: Pat apparently from the Chinese Communist Party's embassy. Correct, Yeah, 405 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: that's what they told me. And then Jay, right now, 406 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: I have dear friends who are imprisoned in Hong Kong 407 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: for two years without even a trial date, said for 408 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: ordering for organizing peaceful demonstrations. And I was polite. I 409 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: respect authority, I'm a Christian, but I said I will 410 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: not be bullied or intimidated. I had the same tone, 411 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: I am going over onto that sidewalk. If you choose 412 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: to arrest me, fine, but it's a public sidewalk, and 413 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: I want to tell all the listeners. I was Jay 414 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: was talking to you earlier. What would think that in 415 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: a situation like this, when I was expected to get arrested, 416 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: I called my wife first, but no, I called the 417 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: person who I know could probably give me out of jail. 418 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: I called Jay. I'm out the sidewalk. I know I'm 419 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: expected to be arrested, and right in the middle of it, 420 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: I called Jay. Also, there was a funding part where 421 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: I moved my car. It was in a parking lot. 422 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: I said, if I'm going to get arrested, I'm going 423 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: to move my car because the Chinese government of tow 424 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: and I'm yeah, you know, this is this is this 425 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: is the part that's so so absurd. I'm glad we 426 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: could help. By the way, I was on the air 427 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: on our broadcast when there's a letter off to the 428 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: to the officials here at the State, at the Secret Service, 429 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: so that they understand that this is protected speech in 430 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: a protected public place, public forum. But you did get 431 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: allowed to engage in the protest because eventually a more 432 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: senior Secret Service official came. Is that correct, Yeah, a captain. 433 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: But Jay, here's the issue. I'm a season activist for 434 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: the listeners on the show. I've been arrested one hundred 435 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: and twelve times, but all for good things. Like Congressman 436 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 1: Lewis might say, good trouble, But ninety nine percent of 437 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: all Americans, when they saw armed Secret Service agents telling 438 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: them they will be arrested for going on that sidewalk, 439 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: they would have last I mean, I shuddered to think 440 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: the kind of chilling effect. I shuddered to think of 441 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: all the people who went to demonstrate peacefully the Chinese 442 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: embassy two days before or two days from now. That's 443 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: why I'm so I'm glad. Here's the thing that's good though, Pat, 444 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: you did it. You knew what your rights were. We 445 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: stood up and we won and we got a result. 446 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: Now we are, like I said, we're in communication with 447 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: the Secret Service on this because it's important Pat Mahoney. 448 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: If folks want to follow what Pat's doing, go to 449 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: Reverend Pat Mahoney on all of your social media apps. Pat, 450 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us, Jordan. Here's the thing you 451 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: took you to. Take a look at the case involving 452 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: Pat Mahoney at the Chinese embassy where the Chinese say, oh, 453 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: that's our property even though it's US property. Or the 454 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: National Archives, who can't find like I said, they can't 455 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: find top secret documents with former presidents, but they can 456 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: target a student that says we're the pro life generation. 457 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: But in all of those situations, we went to court 458 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: at the ACLJ and one, yeah, we got an in 459 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: junction against the National Archives. And I want to say 460 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: for you for that, that's not it's our National Arts. 461 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: That's just about hitting to make sure that anyone in 462 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: a similar situation could visit that museum without fear of 463 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: being targeted and harassed. We got damages, discovery to do, 464 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: mediation to do. And that's just the Archives because in 465 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: this facility in case has not reached that point yet. 466 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: We've notified them about what the National Archives have done, 467 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: which National Archives admitted to everything that were fledged. Yes, 468 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: And the injunction Andy for our audience, means they can't 469 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: stop that activity. The students wearing their retire attire that 470 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: has pro like messages on it, that's right. A US 471 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: district judge has said, you gotta let them wear their 472 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: attire and make their public statement in the National Archives 473 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: peacefully as they do. And the ACLJ will go to 474 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: court if it has to go to court. As a 475 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: client of mine, the old Secretary of State of Georgia 476 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: used to say, I said, mister Forts, when we got 477 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: to go to court. He said, if you got to 478 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: go to court and go to court, well, that's what 479 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: we did. And I'll tell you something, folks, it makes 480 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 1: a difference. And you know on all these issues. By 481 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: the way, our organization a CLJ, and we have a 482 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: broadcast also at noon Eastern time called Seculo and Jordan 483 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: and Logan. Jordan's brother has a podcast called Secular Brothers, 484 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: which is both informative and hysterical at the same time. 485 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: You gotta check that out at secular where's the best 486 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: play Secular Brothers dot com. Yeah, you know, Secular Brothers 487 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: dot com. You fight out all the different places to 488 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: watch or listen. And again, if you're interested in the 489 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: work that we do at ACLJ dot org is the 490 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: best way to get information about the American Center for 491 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: Lawn Justice. And again I want to say huge thank 492 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: you to Sean's team, to Linda, to Seawn. We got 493 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: on here last week five hundred new members of the ACLJ, 494 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: just one radio broadcast, over five hundred actually, which is 495 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: phenomenal for us, and I want to say thank you again, 496 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: and we're doing that again this week. We have a 497 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: matching moment, which means if you make a donation to 498 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: the a c l J, not only is a tax deductible, 499 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: but the other thing that's important here is you become 500 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: a member of the ACLJ. We can go then and 501 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: fight and we get a matching gift to match it. 502 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: So you could do that by going to ACLJ dot org. 503 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: That's a CLJ dot org. One of our colleagues from 504 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: the American Center for Law and Justice. Rick Rernel, former 505 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: Acting director of the DNI, Director of National Intelligence and 506 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: can be with us. I want to talk to him 507 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: about what's going on on the in the intelligence world, 508 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: which is confusing, to say the least we have. They 509 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: called it domain gaps when the Chinese flew their balloon over, 510 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: but we actually didn't have a gap. We knew exactly 511 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: where it was. We're gonna get into all of that 512 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: and we come back more of the Sean Hannity Show 513 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: in just a few minutes. One day you'll be out 514 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: of the loop. Which someone, please tell me what is 515 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: going on here? This is the Sean Hannity Show. 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It's awesome. 532 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: Let's go to geniu cell dot com slash Sean and 533 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: during this extended blowout Cell it'll include exclusively a beauty 534 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: box with two luxury Geniusell gifts for you to try 535 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: at genu cell dot com slash Shawn. Well back to 536 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: shot head of the show. This is Jordan's Secu with ACLJ. 537 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: We appreciate Sean allowing us to host the broadcast today. 538 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: You know we're talking about our podcast, Secular Brothers Podcast 539 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: to Do by Brother Logan. We spent a lot of 540 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: time yesterday on Don Livid, who was not out see 541 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: it in today. He took the day off. It took 542 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: a day off. He was actually spotted by heavy beach, 543 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: So I guess he flew out of the beach. You know, 544 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: he would likely not be as he played that very 545 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: quickly after he realized I probably won't be on the 546 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: air the next day, had to apologize. The staff didn't 547 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: apologize to Dicky Haley yet. By the way, to direct, 548 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: let's tell everybody again what he did to Nicky Haley, 549 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: which was sus not deprived, that women are out of 550 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: their pride and there at least after their forties. Could 551 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: you imagine, first of all, google that. Yeah, it's not 552 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: clear that that that this is not clear. And by 553 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: the way, if you google it, forbid, it says about 554 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: the same thing. I mean this, it's again. It's talking 555 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: about it again, you talking about having children? What are 556 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: you talking? First of all, it's just wrong. It's disgusting. 557 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: He has see it's Don Livid's warld Wivid would see 558 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: it in its back it see it's world women. Because 559 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: if he wasn't working in any place else, do you 560 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: think he's still be working there? No, he would not be. 561 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: Now let me tell you something, I got a little 562 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: experience with Don Lemon on air. Not pleasant. I have done. Milson, 563 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: you represent a president, you get you get interviews that 564 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: are tough, and I did a plenty of them on 565 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: CNN and MSNBC and everywhere else. Don Lemon and I 566 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: will say, was the only one that personalized the attacks. Yes, 567 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: well that's that's his whole thing. I mean, he's personally 568 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: attacking his co host. He personally attacked Dicky Haley. I know, 569 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: I know any states who are leading in our military, 570 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, Christie Nobond, Tolsi Gabbard, I mean, people like 571 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: Nicky Haley who we know our friends as well. These 572 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: are these are strong folks, regardless of mad Woman. They're 573 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: strong people. Yeah, but you know he wouldn't Caitlin Collins, 574 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: who's their main White House correspondent. And then the other 575 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: co host is is what what are they? I mean, 576 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: I know they've been pretty silent. I mean, if the 577 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: media has said they were, they one of them left 578 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: the set. 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