1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Hello Texans. We're back on a Monday, Mark Vantam Aaron, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: John Harris with you right here in the Hyunday Texans 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Radio studio with plenty to go over as OTAs get 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: rolling for the Texans this week, and we'll have plenty 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: to say about that as the week continues, a lot 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: of talk about various position groups. Why not this is it. 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: They are gearing it up. In fact, they'll be out 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: there for the next four weeks and then that is it, 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Johnny break time. What I called the desert between mini 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: camp and training camp. And during the desert, you know, 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: it can either go slowly or quickly, depending on how 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: you spend your summer, and then before you know what, 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: it's back to football and training camp. I think the 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: desert goes fast. And now for me, it goes a 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: little fast because I can jump into the colleg drump 16 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: for a little bit, because you got media days, you 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: got big twelve media days, and that usually hits middle 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: of July. So once I get to that point, then 19 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it's on now, I mean it's close. 20 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: Then you can start to okay, you can start to 21 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: smell it. As Andrea says, but this is kind of 22 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: the hardest period, I think between the draft in OTAs. 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there's rookie Minicamp, but that's such a brief period. 24 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: But I think that's that's the hardest, the hardest time 25 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: because everybody's kind of sitting up pins. Okay, how did 26 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: you do in the draft? How these guys look? I 27 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: thought it was interesting that they had the NFL Rookie 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: Showcase or premiere out in LA where they bring all 29 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: the rookies and they put them in their NFL team's 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: gear and then they take a big picture with them. Yeah, 31 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: and no Texans because they're here. Yeah, because well, we've 32 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: always had somebody. I think he Key went last year, 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: Deshan went, but they just weren't interested in anybody, just 34 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: didn't not interested. Good. I hope the guys know that. Yeah, 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: Phill O'Brien brought that up in the team meeting. No Texans. Yeah, 36 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of been the way that everybody 37 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: nationally has and some locally have sort of looked at 38 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: this draft for the Texans. But you know, look, if 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: this is a draft that you end up getting two 40 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: offensive line starters out of it, you end up getting 41 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: a secondary starter out of it pretty and good draft. Huh. No, 42 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: we won't know that for a few years, but we 43 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: can start to see the progress. Obviously this year we 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: can see it start. We saw the immediate rewards of 45 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: Justin Reid being drafted last year, Jordan Thomas being drafted 46 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: last year, So you started getting some of those immediate rewards. 47 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: But you want to know for a fact what you've 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: got until a few years down line. That said, she's 49 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: not gotten a lot of run, and the NFL Rookie 50 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: Showcase kind of hammered that point. Home Texans rookies and 51 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: we're good. You know, I'm really looking forward to seeing 52 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: these old linemen in these OTAs as the week progress here. Now, 53 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: the thing about it is this old lineman OTAs Bill 54 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: O'Brien says, it's the passing camp whatever. I just want 55 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: to see how these guys move around, how they fit together, 56 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: the combinations they put together. And as you and I 57 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: well know, whatever you see out there on the field 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: is not necessarily the plan. Often it's planned B, C 59 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: or D. They just want to have a look at 60 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: different things, different combinations, get guys in different spots, just 61 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: to see how they react to the situation. Boom thrust 62 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: into it in practice, and I was having not an 63 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: argument with mcclaim. We've never really argued about anything but 64 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: a little mini debate because he said, leave the tackle 65 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: at tackle if he's supposed to be a tackle. I 66 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: didn't mean to stutter with John's accent, but that is fine. 67 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: I agree with that. However, the reason why they sometimes 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: slide a guy over to guard is because in the 69 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: floor of the game, as you know, you've seen Derek 70 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: Newton move over to guard. You've seen these things happen. 71 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: You only have seven offensive line addressing for game day. 72 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: That's why you need that to happen. Well, especially with 73 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: a rookie too, you're not exactly sure what his fit 74 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: is going to be. I mean, you may have projected 75 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: him as you watched him during your draft studying. Go, Okay, 76 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: this guy we think is a left tackle, or we 77 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: think this guy is a guard, or we think this 78 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: guy can be a tackle guard. We think he's better 79 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: at tackle than he is at guard. Might just be 80 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: that a guy is that good no matter where he 81 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: plays tackle or guard. You just have to get him 82 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: on the field, and maybe the best fit is to 83 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: put him at guard. As opposed to tackle or tackle 84 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: as opposed to guard. So I always find the first 85 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: day of ot is in particular pretty interesting because you 86 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: when you go to the when you go to the 87 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: twitters afterwards, and it's like, Okay, this is what the 88 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: offensive line look like from left to right, and it's like, 89 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: hardly ever does it look like that. I mean, it's 90 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: such stuff to talk about, Like you were just mentioning, 91 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: you have to wait the year or two to find 92 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: out how these guys are going to pan out, or 93 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: at least what the initial progress is. However, we live 94 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: in a day to day world, and you're gonna react 95 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: to what you see every day. All right, let's get 96 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: to it right now. Julio Davenport started at left tackle 97 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: last season for this team, his first full season as 98 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: a starter. But the team did go out and get 99 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: Matt Khalil. The team drafted Titus Howard in the first round. 100 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: They have options. Davenport obviously realizes this, but don't count 101 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: them out. He talked about here in the Hunday Texans 102 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: Radio studio with John Harris and I some of the 103 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: things he's been working on. Next step is to consistently 104 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: getting my set better overall, just be a better player, 105 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: be everything I can be for his team, and be 106 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: the best player I can be for his team. Julio, 107 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: last year nine game winning streaks, A lot of really 108 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: good moments in the year. Is there one to you 109 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: that stands out more than any other? From last year? 110 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: You know, the winning streak was good, but ultimately we 111 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: didn't get where we want it. So you can take 112 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: bits and pieces of the good and the bad from it, 113 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: but we gotta do everything we can to come out 114 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: and be the best. We have one ultimate goal and 115 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: that's always driving for how much does that loss to 116 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: the Colts? I'm sure you guys don't sit and talk 117 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: about all the time, but just knowing that your teammates, 118 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: how much is that loss to the Colts in the 119 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: playoffs gonna drive you guys? Oh, you know, it's big 120 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: driver for us. You know you don't want to harp 121 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: on it, but it's a lesson that you got to 122 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: learn from and we take it and we're making sure 123 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: we fix everything we can coming into the season to 124 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: be on point and be ready for, you know, a 125 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: situation like that again, to make sure that doesn't happen again. 126 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: What does it mean to you to have some of 127 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: the new faces in here as well, a lot of 128 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: different competition bodies. Guys are all in the room together. 129 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: I know it's a close knick route, but you're also competing. 130 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: You're fighting for the same thing. It's kind of a 131 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: weird dynamic. Yeah, I mean, it's the nature of our league. 132 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: Nobody takes it too crazy in that instance where you know, 133 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: we're all bringing each other along, we're all helping each 134 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: other while we're all trying to better ourselves in the meantime. 135 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: So it's competitive league and this is gonna be every year. 136 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: So it ain't something that you can be better about, 137 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: but you just got to put the work in. Julianne, 138 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: when you think about where you were when you enter 139 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: the NFL to where you are now, what's the one 140 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: thing that you probably have picked up that you're proud 141 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: of that over the couple of years that your techniques's 142 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: got better or you've become better doing a certain thing. 143 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: Is there something that you're more proud about your game 144 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, and what's the one 145 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: thing that you feel like you want to continue to 146 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: work on going forward. I feel like I'm proud of 147 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: the way my technique is developing, but it's not quite 148 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: there yet. I'm still working on everything I can to 149 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, better my technique and be the best at 150 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: anything I can do on the field. But it's constant 151 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: grind and basically I'm trying to implant that to where 152 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: it can be second nature, you know, not have no 153 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: false step, not have no missteps. Everything I can to 154 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: do the better that. I just want to improve on 155 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: all the little things past pro run blocking, anything I can, 156 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: because not everything's perfect and not everybody's perfect. What's it 157 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: like to be a professional football player living in a 158 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: big city like this. Your life has changed obviously over 159 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, But how has it changed? 160 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: What can you share with us. I'm a more low 161 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: key guy, so I try to go places and stay 162 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: low key sometimes, but it's kind of hard, especially with 163 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: especially with how big I am. So yeah, that's a 164 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: little difference in that. And coming from a small town 165 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: where everybody knows everybody, being in a city like this 166 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: is a lot of people everywhere, a lot of more 167 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: things to do as well, so that's a good thing 168 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: in the nature. What you do with your offseason time 169 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: to get away from the game offseason. Actually, I took 170 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: a trip to London. In London for a little bit. Yeah, 171 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: didn't get to visit the stadium we're gonna be playing in, 172 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: but I went out there with one of my boys. 173 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: He actually played football out there at a university. Yeah, 174 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: so he is my little tour guy and spent ten 175 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: days out there, and you know, it was nice out there. No, 176 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: that's awesome, that's very cool. What was the what was 177 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: your favorite thing to do in London? Because now you're 178 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: speaking to a lot of fans are gonna end up 179 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: going to the game in London, So what was your 180 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: favorite thing to do when you were there? Oh, I 181 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: mean we did a lot. Uh. We as all over 182 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: the place. We were staying in hostels. Oh nice, Yeah, 183 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: you get the youth hostel thing, the hostile thing. Huh yeah, 184 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: that's I wasn't trying to stay in a room with 185 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: too many people, so we are looking for the private 186 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: rooms and that's where we more so stayed in. But 187 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: we as all over the place. Man, we were shopping. 188 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: I was trying out the food there. We actually we 189 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: even went to Budapest for a couple of days as well. Yeah. Nice, 190 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: you guys did it all. Yeah, nice little trip. Have 191 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: you thought about that? But playing football over there is 192 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: gonna be yeah. I mean, as I was over there, 193 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: I was just picturing. You know, people they really love 194 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: football more than you would think, especially when I went 195 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: to the university where he played at and saw how 196 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: they they play American football there. Team was national champs 197 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: when he was there playing. They really like it more 198 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: than what I thought was going to be so bigger. 199 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: The lineman there not that big. If they were to 200 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: see you walking out in the field, what would they think, Oh, 201 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: they be very scary. What are your folks and family 202 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: and everybody back home when they see you play? What's 203 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: that like for them? You see you from a small town. 204 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: What's that like for them to see you come out, 205 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: make it through Bucknell and then get here to the 206 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: NFL and play on a weekly basis. What's that like 207 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: for them? You know, it's big time. You know they 208 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: knew this was a dream growing up. Man. To see 209 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: me fulfill it, you know, it just makes everybody happy. 210 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: All the people in the town also very supportive, you know, 211 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: following my journey and still you know, communicate to this day. 212 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: So I'm just kind of living my own dream, but 213 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: also living through them as well. It's funny we just 214 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: did a feature on Vincent Smith coming from a really 215 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: small school. Buck Nell's huge compared to Limestone, right, Yeah, 216 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: And of course the Texas just drafted Titus Howard out 217 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: of Alabama State. You came from Bucknell. But what is 218 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: it about that a smaller program or whatever that has 219 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: an effect early on? And how do you shake that 220 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: off early on? Is that overrated or is it taken 221 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: out of context? Really when people talk about guys coming 222 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: from quote smaller school, I mean, the big thing is 223 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: just to get here. Once you're here, all that's thrown 224 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: out the window. You know, you just got to put 225 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: into work and develop and show your team or any 226 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: other team what you can do to make sure you 227 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: stay in this league and last. So the only thing 228 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: they can say about it is, I guess some underdevelopment 229 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But you got here so obviously you 230 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: had the skill set good enough to be here. Julian, 231 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us, Good luck to you, 232 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. There's Julian and Davenport. You know, Johnny, 233 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: you were talking about the Twitter Rozzie and how everyone 234 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: reacts to whatever they see in training camp, these OTA's 235 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: preseason games, whatever, even the early start in the regular season. 236 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: You cannot count out Julian and Davenport really improving and 237 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: making a difference on this team and possibly starting and 238 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: really doing some damaged this year. You can't count out. 239 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: You cannot rule that out at all, no question, There's 240 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: no doubt. Remember what happened after twenty seventeen with Kendall Lamb. Yeah, yes, 241 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: Kendall Lamb was gone. I mean he started a left 242 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,599 Speaker 1: tackle against the Jags in the very first game and 243 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: it didn't go well. I mean, Kennedy would tell you that, 244 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: everybody would tell you that. I mean, it was it 245 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: was pretty obvious. But that was a game that I 246 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: think he roted Kendall's confidence for twenty seventeen, but he 247 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: never stopped coming. And in between the off season twenty 248 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: seventeen going to twenty eighteen, he was a different guy. 249 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: And I remember we had this discussion last year at 250 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: the Greenbrier. We were up watching and I turned you 251 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: at some point and I said, you want to see 252 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: people get upset. Watch when I go on the radio 253 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: and tell him that Kendall Lamb's having one of the 254 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: better training camps of any of the offensive alignment here. Yeah, 255 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: because no one thought that was possible, but it happened, right. 256 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: And no one's saying he was Pro Bowl caliber last year, either, 257 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: But guess what. He was the starting right tackle a 258 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: lot of team that went eleven and five, and he's 259 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: still in this league. He's got a job, and he 260 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: did some good things for them. The team obviously felt 261 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: like Sean Treille was gonna be the guy because he 262 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: was the one that started, and they brought him back, 263 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: and so they gave Kennle an opportunity to go find 264 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: a job elsewhere. Look Kendall, and wouldn't you know, we're 265 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: not putt him in the Hall of Fame, but Kennell 266 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: had some good moments last year in protecting the quarterback. Um, 267 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: you know, it was rob blocking off something to be 268 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: desired just because he wasn't a big he was a 269 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: maller kind of guy. But he did some good things 270 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: for this team. And I remember when we went to Denver. 271 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: Remember went to Denver last year and he went down 272 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: for a play. He was hurt and probably hurt worse 273 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: than than we imagine. I remember we thought he might 274 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: be done for the day, if not longer. We did, 275 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: and we were kind of talking during a break on 276 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this could be rough. Yeah, now what 277 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: So the play that he is out, there's a sack, 278 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: he goes back in. There's no more sack. It was 279 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: only sacked von Miller got that day, and it was 280 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: it was that one play that he was out he 281 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: ended up going back in played the rest of the game. 282 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Point being and all that is, he was the scourge 283 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: of Houston, like the offensive line problems were all kindle 284 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: lamps seemed when you just sat back and listened to 285 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: everybody locally in particular. And he improved mightily from twenty 286 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: seventeen and twenty eighteen. And I think that's that's hard 287 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: for people to see sometimes, like really, he's gonna go 288 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: from from A to B like that can Yeah, it 289 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: can happen. A guy can improve. It shouldna happen if 290 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: you're a rookie and or a young player getting your 291 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: first taste of consistent competition. And Kendall finally got that 292 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: and played well with it um for the most part. 293 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: Last year. He finally got that opportunity. But I think 294 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: Julian takes another step in his development not saying Julian's 295 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: gonna be the left tackle, but is there a scenario 296 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: where I could see Julian being out on the field 297 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: and really and having a good training camp. He's gone 298 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: through a full year against some of the best pass 299 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: rushers in this league. He's faced some great players already 300 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: in his first year as a starter. I mean, if 301 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: we went on the first year as a starter for Dwayne, 302 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: Dwayne would have never seen the field. People peop wanted 303 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: to trade him in two thousands. I was one of those. 304 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, he doesn't, you know. But then he 305 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: turned out to be one of the better left tackles 306 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: in the league. I'm seeing Julian's on that path. But 307 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna send him off into the into the 308 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: nether regions just because he had a rough year in 309 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: his first year as a starter. You're not going to 310 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: send him north of the wall. Oh. I worked a 311 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: reference in That's it. That's all I'll say about that. 312 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: No spoilers here, baby. Next up, a bunch of gut 313 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: reaction to a bunch of stories floating around the NFL 314 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: and beyond. And also Joe Webb, Spider Man, Jolton, Joe 315 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: what nickname. Does he like we'll get into some deeper stuff. 316 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: I promise it's gonna happen here on Texans All Access. 317 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: It's the show that gets you inside NRG Stadium regularly 318 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday six to seven pm. Sports Radio six 319 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: ten Texans app Great to have you listening Texans All 320 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: Access with Mark Vandermer, John Harris tonight, and we'll have 321 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: an OTA report for you tomorrow night. We just heard 322 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: from Julian Davenport. We're gonna hear from Joe Webb before 323 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: the show is over. All right, So what do we 324 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: got here, Johnny? Most complete football teams out there, according 325 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: to Adam Shine, who knows everything there is to know 326 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: about professional football. Not really, but we like to react 327 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: to scribes opinions from time to time. We do. All right, 328 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: you're ready for some gut reactions. Gut reactions. Go gut 329 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: reaction to this. Now, Adam shot put this together and 330 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: he said, and emphasize, this is not a power aanching, 331 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: it's not a playoff prediction. This is how he sees 332 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: the most complete teams in the NFL. Com So no holes, Okay, 333 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: complete across the board. Let's go your gut reaction to 334 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: the number one most complete team in the NFL is 335 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. The Chargers, how about does Philip 336 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: rivers brain come into the equation? Not that it's incomplete, 337 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: but from time to time it reacts to things in 338 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: an unpredictable manner. I'm just gonna say that. So there's 339 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: such predictability to the way Philip Rivers handles his business 340 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: that I do like him. Though. I like him. I think, 341 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, from the outside looking in, he's a likable quarterback. 342 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: He's kind of irie. I do enjoy watching him when 343 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: he's not playing against this team, and we're gonna be 344 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: seeing him out in LA. I don't think they are. 345 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could say, all right, when 346 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: you look at position groups and certain elements and they've 347 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: got a good quarterback at all that, you know they 348 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: belong up there. There's no doubt about it. I think 349 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: the offensive line is decent. I don't think it's great. 350 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: I think the right side of the line still has 351 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: some still has some work to do. Well, we've got 352 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: their safety too. Yeah, we got your little time. I 353 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: feel good about that situation if he was available, but 354 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: with Bosa Ingram Derwin, James Casey, Hayward, Desmond King is 355 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: the nickel. Yeah, they've got They've got legit dudes. In 356 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: the defense. I think the running I mean Melvin Gordon 357 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: good running back. I think the receivers are good, keen 358 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: all Mike Williams, that they're healthy. Williams. That's gonna be 359 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: a bigger than than they think. I think that's gonna 360 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: be a pretty decent Like Keenan Allen, he's a workman. Yeah, 361 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, runs great routes. He does. I could see 362 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: where liable, I can see where the Chargers would be 363 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: looked at that way. All right, what you got next? 364 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: But I think I don't know. I think there's always 365 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: something missing with the Chargers. I don't know. I always 366 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: know what it is earlier, the number two team staying 367 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: in the same city, the LA Rams complete team. I 368 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: disagree with this wholeheartedly, and I'll explain mine. I'll let 369 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: you think in this for a second. I think the 370 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: Rams offensive line, having lost Saffold Andrew Whitworth is thirty seven. 371 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: They lost John Sullivan center. I've always thought that Havenstein 372 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: is overrated. I think they're gonna start I don't know 373 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: who they're gonna start in your offense. I think that's 374 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: the biggest thing. Look, you don't know how girl, he's 375 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: gonna come back after what he's dealing with the knee. 376 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup's coming off an acl tare, which Cooper Cup 377 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: is kind of like that team will fuller in some sense, 378 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: not the speed, but just the reliability. And Jared Goff 379 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: how he went into that Super Bowl and how he's 380 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: coming out of it. So that didn't score a touchdown 381 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: on the Super Bowl. Is the second most complete team 382 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL? Got it? Second second most complete team? Okay, 383 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: U s n F on NBC asked this particular question, 384 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: and I love stuff like this. For one game, you 385 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: can have one of the following. Okay, you can have 386 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: either Patrick Mahomes arm, DeAndre Hopkins hands, Saquon Barkley's legs. 387 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: So wait for one game. For one game, you can 388 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: have any of those three and the leader in the 389 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: clubhouse Patrick Mahomes Arm of course, but Mahomes Arm, Hopkins hands. 390 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: It's one of those questions where it's almost unfair to 391 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: put a quarterback in there because he can do so 392 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: much and touches the ball on every play, right, right, 393 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: so I'd rather if I with them, phrase the question 394 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: I like Hopkins hands and Barkley's legs, and then throw 395 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: something else in there, you know, Aaron Donald or J. J. Watts, 396 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: pass rushing ability, ability to get by people who are 397 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: knocked up over uh. Look, I'm partial to DeAndre Hopkins 398 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: of there's no doubt about this. Barkley is a really 399 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: interesting player. NFL Network was rerunning that Giant's Carolina game 400 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: last week, and I watched. I saw that game when 401 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: it aired, and I watched a chunk of it. One. 402 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: That's a great game. It's a great game, a great game. 403 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: The Giants looked super in that game on offense late. 404 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: You know, ob J looked good, Barkley looked amazing. I 405 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: love Barkley. I think he's tremendous player, but I like 406 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: the hot better. Okay, this one is and it comes 407 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: courtesy off Peter King. Peter King did his Football Morning 408 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: in America article and he asked twenty five, as you 409 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: call him, twenty five smart people in and out football, 410 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: what they do if they could change one thing about 411 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: the sport of professional football. Your gut ree action to 412 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: Dean Blandino saying, make every play replay reviewable, wait a 413 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: minute upstairs? Or challenge flag? No, no, challenge flag. It's 414 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: basically the college version of no play no no. Of 415 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: course Blandina would say that wants control of the game. Johnny, 416 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: I watched college football and even in college basketball and 417 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: NBA basketball. Sometimes I'm thinking, do we really have to 418 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: have a look at this? You know, it drives me 419 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: nuts in the NBA, and it drove me nuts in 420 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: the Rockets game. Didn't they take away at three? Was 421 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: it in game six where they took away three from 422 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: Gordon and they ruled it a two where they said 423 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: he was or is after the shot clock? Yeah, it's right. 424 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: It was after the shot clock and it was minutes later. 425 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, you missed a call. Then you 426 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: can't go back in time. What is this? Michael J. 427 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Fox and the flux capacitor? I hate that about basketball. 428 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: Don't get me started. And as far as being able 429 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: to review every play, no, make the challenge flag rule, 430 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: I would be okay with that if he said you 431 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: have to throw a challenge flag and then we reorganize 432 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: how challenge flags are throwing reaps, make the coaches think 433 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: about it. Otherwise the guy upstairs is gonna feel compelled 434 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: to stop the game all the time, and it's gonna 435 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: bring everything to a screeching halt. So, okay, your gut 436 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: reaction to reaction, Your gut reaction to what Pete Carroll 437 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: said three very simple words. I don't must go to 438 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: this angle to be honest with you, kill instant replay. No, 439 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: you cannot do it. You have to have recourse if 440 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: the technology is too good. Pete Carroll's wrong about this. 441 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: Come on, Pete Carroll. I never took you as get 442 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: off my lawn guy. You have got to be able 443 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: to review your plays. Johnny, you need some kind of 444 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: last house on the left. Here. Here's what he said, 445 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: get rid of get rid of instant replay. I get 446 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: all the reasons why we have instur replaying technologies open 447 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: up a new world for us to get this point, 448 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: but I missed the human element of trusting the officials 449 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: to make the calls the moment, and then the rest 450 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: of us having to live with what they called. It 451 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: was both fun and frustrating, but I really liked the 452 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: game better when the officials were just as much a 453 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: part of the game as the players was. Frank Curses 454 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: big catch in the Super Bowl that got them down 455 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: there when they should have eaten the Patriots was that 456 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: it was not reviewed because that was clean. He caught 457 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: it right in front of the raft, I know. But 458 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: did they look at it again? No? Or no? Okay, okay, 459 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: it was trying. I mean he was inside of two minutes, 460 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: so they could have, but they didn't. I mean, he 461 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: caught it, he caught it clean. But you know what, 462 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: as I read that, you know what I thought of? 463 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: What remember Phil Mary? Yeah, now that that's sort of 464 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: nuanced because that was when the officials were it was 465 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: replacement officials. Yeah, so it was a little different. But 466 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: I can't remember if they went up to the booth 467 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: for that one or not. I think they did. They 468 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: messed that whole thing up, and I'm like, no, you 469 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: have got to have replayed. No, don't do that to me. 470 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: Don't do that to me. I'm sitting at home in 471 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: my living room with my high definition TV. I'm being 472 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: Joe six Pack here or maybe Joe Chardonnay, but I'm 473 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: sitting at home with my high definition television, and I 474 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: got a better look at it in slow motion than 475 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: everybody in the stadium. Come on. You can't do that. 476 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: You have to have replay. You ready for our buddy, 477 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: Eric Winston, your gut reaction to hit so what he 478 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: thought should could change about the game. Go ahead? So again, 479 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: Peter King, his article talked to twenty five smart people, 480 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: ran the gamut of people, players, coaches, just great people 481 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: have been Yeah, it's excellent. Calm. Eric Winston said, your 482 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: gut reaction to this seed the playoffs by record, not 483 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: division title. I'm actually more okay with this than anything 484 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: I think. Here, here's the thing. Could you do it 485 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: where you allow it an eight and eight division winner? Yes, 486 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: you're in the playoffs because you won your division. I've 487 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: always thought this, and in the NBA too, because there 488 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: was some freaky times with the Rockets when they had 489 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: the four and the five and the five got the 490 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: home court or whatever. Anyway, I think this. You're in 491 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs if you're at eight in eight division winner, 492 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: but you're not at home. Okay, I know you won 493 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: your division, so congratulations. So even though your record might 494 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: be worse than a team that is a better record 495 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: in another division that failed to make the wild card, Yeah, okay, 496 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: you're in because you won your four team division. But 497 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: because otherwise, why have the divisions, Johnny? They don't mean 498 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: anything anymore, you know, they really don't. They're just for 499 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: scheduling purposes, right, And you know you're lucky if you're 500 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: in an easy one. You're unlucky if you're in a 501 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: tough one. So how does that make sense? But are 502 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: you with me here? I would be okay with that, 503 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: But you got to play on the road if the 504 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: record warrants it, all right, I see that. Okay, good, 505 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: I could see that. I'm glad, we're I'm glad we 506 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: came to an understanding, we could see. Yeah. I don't 507 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: get too kind of hung up on the playoffs. I mean, 508 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: if you deserve to get in, if you win your division, great, 509 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: what about what about seven teams per conference? What about 510 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: letting that extra team in and then there's only one 511 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: buy for the top seat, same amount of weeks. You 512 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: just have three games on this first Saturday and Sunday 513 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: and stas too, a triple header, Johnny, I am now 514 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: t well, I know, but I know, you know, you know, 515 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: I got let me interrupt here. You know what ESPN 516 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: really wanted though, They wanted the Monday night game to 517 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: be a playoff game, right, Yeah, but it was conflicted 518 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: with the National Championship of College Football. Yeah, that could be. 519 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: That's that's gonna be tough, especially because the ESPN has 520 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: that game. Yeah. I I have never been a big 521 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: fan of expanding playoffs to water down the regular season. 522 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: I think it's good the way it is, too, So 523 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't like adding more teams. That's like if they 524 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: go to eight teams in college football and be like, hey, 525 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, okay, maybe, but no, there's no reason for that. 526 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: I didn't like it when in fact too because I 527 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: felt like, hey, look, there are a couple of teams 528 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: that could you know, you make it forward. It's fine. 529 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: The more you just water down a regular season. So 530 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 1: I'd rather keep it at six, all right. Next up, 531 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna go here, but my radical idea for 532 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: college football. And I got another one show Webb will 533 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: join us, and you got another one for me. I 534 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: got another one. I've got an overtime question for you 535 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: as well. It's Texans All Access. Busy Busy night here 536 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: Texans Radio, Mark Vandamaron John Harris with you in the 537 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: Hunday Texans Radio studio. Okay, we're doing gut reaction to 538 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: Peter King's column, what are you talked to about twenty five? Yeah? 539 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: Twenty five s smart people around the game. He talked 540 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: to a few players. He asked Clays Campbell. Clays Campbell said, 541 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: make every healthy player active on game day. Now, I'll 542 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: take the financial component out of this, because I'm not 543 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: sure what that financial component would be. I don't know, 544 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: but just to have your fifty you made a fifty 545 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: three man roster, make everybody active on game day. I 546 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: agree with that hard please or go to fifty five. 547 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: Is it really that much of a problem. That way, 548 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: you get a few more guys out there. If you 549 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: have a few guys hurt and you can sort of 550 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: keep them around without having to ir them, that would 551 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: be nice. Here's another one. What less Sneed said, reinvent 552 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: the preseason. And there's a reason why I bring it up. 553 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: He said. My long term thought has reduced the preseason 554 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: from four to two games, one home, one away. But 555 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: don't waste the rest of August. I would add a 556 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: scrimmage with another team at a neutral site that loves football, 557 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: and slot that scrimmage the same week. That now would 558 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: be used for the first full preseason weekend the week 559 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: after the Hall of Fame game. We could take the 560 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: NFL on the road to towns in America and support 561 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: the NFL on Thursday Sundays and money is by watching us, 562 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: he said. It's a chance to give back and invest 563 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: in our dedicated fans who support us, even even though 564 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: they might be in a place that's not close to 565 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: NFL franchise city. Wouldn't it be fun to see Carson 566 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: Wentz in the Eagles scrimmage the Viking Vikings somewhere in 567 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: North Dakota. Yeah, it would be fun for the North Dakotaans. 568 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: But how are you making up the lost revenue of 569 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: the preseason game You're canceling, he says. Or the Seahawks 570 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: and Texans scrimmaging in Madison, Wisconsin. Yeah, where Russell Wilson 571 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: and JJ wat play. Love it be great, but how 572 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: are you gonna make the money back. You're not making 573 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: it back in a scrimmage. You're not charging the full ticket. 574 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: Sneeds a TM. He's not the he's not business manager. 575 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: The president to Jamie Roots to get back to me 576 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: with your thoughts. Okay, college football, by the way, all 577 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: the radical ideas here like Pete Carroll saying, get rid 578 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: of ins and replay. How about this one? Are you 579 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: ready for this? Okay, go ahead, go back to the 580 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: old system of choosing a national champion. Oh, I'm talking 581 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: free bcs. I'm talking. You're heading into New Year's Day. 582 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: Remember New Year's Day when that meant something New Year's Day, 583 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: Johnny in New Year's Day? Like, all right, we're number four, 584 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: but we're playing number two. If number three blows out 585 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: number one by forty and we blowout number two, maybe 586 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: we're no. Wait, if number three just edges by number 587 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: one and we blow out number two, maybe we'll get 588 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: some votes of the UPI, which no longer exists, but 589 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: in the UPI, and we can go ahead and win 590 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: a share of the national championship. I thought it was 591 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: fun that way. I think the playoff look, it can 592 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: be great, but often it isn't. Well, we've had a 593 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: couple of great games in a con football playoff. We 594 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: had the guy in the locker room generated the two 595 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: that we've had, and the only other playoff game that's 596 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: been worth the Dharma's at Rose Bowl, which was Georgian 597 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. I would be more after gree with you. 598 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: In fact, I am I'm I'm after gree with you 599 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: because I, first of all, I'm a traditionalist when it 600 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: comes to college football. But and I love the bowl 601 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: games and I loved New Year's Day. I love that. 602 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: I feel like some of the passion for college football 603 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: is maybe gone a little bit because we're not discussing, well, 604 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: who is really better, Clemson or Alabama? Who is really better? 605 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: And the fans are fighting all offseason long. All of 606 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: a sudden, Clemson blows out Alabama and it's like it's 607 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: just it's like, well, you know, Clemson won. Yeah, no debate. 608 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: There'body's talking about it. That's what makes the sport great. 609 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: Remember when everyone thought, there's no way college football is 610 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: going out of a playoff because that way people will 611 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: stop talking about it. They love college football, loves the controversy, 612 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: which maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but to your 613 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: point that it just generated so much conversation. And look, 614 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: we're probably the same people. And I put us in 615 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: a collective group here that complained about why don't we 616 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: have a playoff to start the champions So never mind 617 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: about that. I think it's fun stuff to talk about 618 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: right now. Our conversation with a guy who his third 619 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: string quarterback, odd special teams, can play wide receiver, he 620 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: can drive the bus. He's Joe Webb and he's fun 621 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: to talk to. So if I call you Jolton Joe 622 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: Webb on the air, is that good? Or is that okay? 623 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: If I have a nickname or something, or do you 624 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: not want spider whip whatever you want to spider Web, 625 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: that's not bad, Jolton Joe. That's that might be a 626 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: data reference though, yeah, but it's okay though, you know, 627 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: Jolton Joe is right, Yeah, okay, is a data references, 628 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: but not bringing it back. We're trying to bring it back. 629 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: We're trying to bring it back, Joe, Is there anything 630 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: on a football field? After a year we're convinced that 631 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: you can do anything? Is there anything on a football 632 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: field that you can't do well? I would say long snapper. 633 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, exactly you did in high school, so 634 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: you could do it if you needed to. But what 635 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: does it say to you that you have that versatility 636 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: that you can play any position on the field when 637 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: you're asked? Well, first of all, I just I love 638 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: playing ball. I love being on the field. I have 639 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: a great passion for the game. And one of the 640 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: first things I heard once I get into the NFL 641 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: was the more you can do. Now, that's all people 642 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: are saying, more you could do, more you can do. 643 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: So I kind of took that and ran with it. 644 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: How tough it is practice for you because you kind 645 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: of have to know a little bit of everything out there? 646 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: How does that go for you on a week to 647 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: week basis, Joe? It all depends on our opponent. You know, 648 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: we have an opponent, you know, you know which is 649 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: a scrambler quarterback, running type of quarterback. You know, you 650 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: know I had to I had to fill in that role, right, 651 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, and then also had to receive a role 652 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: I sold so special teams. I mean, man, I'm running 653 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: all day. I badly get breaks. My owner break is 654 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: like when field goal team is up, did you ever 655 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: kick field goals? No, don't answer that because we already 656 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: know the answer. Joe. I remember the day that you 657 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: were in the building and you were going back up 658 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: to sign your contract, and you've been around the league 659 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: for a while and you've seen it from a lot 660 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: of different angles, But was there any nervousness or anxiety 661 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: this offseason about where you're gonna be or did you 662 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: always feel like, if I get the opportunity, I want 663 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: to come back to Houston. Yeah. Man, I feel like 664 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: Houston is a you know, a great place for me. 665 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: You know, it feels like home. You know, it's back 666 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: in the South. You know, I'm from Alabama, so I'm 667 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: used to the heat. You know, it's it's it's a 668 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: great atmosphere. You know, it's a football state, you know, 669 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: which is from unfamiliar with from being from Alabama. So 670 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a great place for me. Man. 671 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: What was it like seeing what Deshaan Watson went through 672 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: last year as a quarterback of the beating He took 673 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: the ability to stay out there on the field, make plays, 674 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: take the boss, whatever it took in order to play. 675 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: I think it showed a lot, you know, the willingness 676 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: he's he's able to take, you know, to will his 677 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: team to win. You know. You know, teammates saw him, 678 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, come to the sidelines with poors. You know, 679 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: no matter what happened on the field, he always had 680 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: poors about himself. You know, he always had that competitive spirit. 681 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: You know, so I think it shows a lot for 682 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: him them. You know, just you know, no matter how 683 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: that how the games going, you know, good ups and downs. 684 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: You know, he always you know, pull us about in 685 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: competitive reader to win. Joe, you were on I believe 686 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: all special teams last year. How difficult is that for 687 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: younger players to look at playing special teams and go, Okay, 688 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: this is my role. I'm gonna accept it because they 689 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: look at you and they see you doing that. What's 690 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: that like for younger players to have to try and 691 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 1: accept that role to play on special teams? And how 692 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: do you look at that role special teams? I look 693 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: at it. You know, it is one of the most 694 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: important things in the game. You know a lot of 695 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: people don't think of special teams like that, but it's 696 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: all about field position and all it's about. It's all 697 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: about momental change. You know, it can make a bit 698 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: difference in the game. You know, you go out, Dad 699 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: and you you hit the punt return and he fumbled 700 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: the ball, you pick it up. You know, it's a 701 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: it's a momentum swinger. So you know, you tell young 702 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: guys like that, man, hey, you could build your career 703 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: off of special teams. You know, you might not be 704 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: a start right now, but it'll help you work your 705 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: way up until it be the starter. So uh, you know, 706 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: the young guys coming in now know they more and 707 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: more they started understand than coach O'Brien. He always emphasizing 708 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: special team, special team. So I think we go get better. 709 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna be a lot better this year and continue 710 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: to build on it. How important is that locker room 711 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: chemistry whatever you guys have together as a bond as players. 712 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: You've been around a lot of different locker room situations. 713 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: What do you think of the one here? It's a 714 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: it's very it's a very unique bun that's that's being 715 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: built right now. A lot of again not a lot 716 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: of new guys coming in. You know, I see guys 717 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: who was here before, you know, go up to them, 718 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: hey man, what's your name? Where you're from? You know, 719 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: trying to get the norm. And it's not more so 720 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: about you know, it's about me, me me. It's more 721 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: so like, hey man, we're gonna need everybody that's in 722 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: the locker room right now in order to win, you know, 723 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: in order to get over this you know, first round hump, 724 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: this wild wild cart hump, and we try to pursue 725 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, So we know that for a fact. 726 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: We need everybody, you know. It's yeah, we got there competing, 727 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: you know, to make one another better. But at the 728 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: end of the day, hey man, I got your bet, 729 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: you got my bet. I need you, you need me? 730 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: All right? You're ready for some either oars. Okay, I've 731 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: got a list of like twenty two and I'm just 732 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: picking one and I feel like will fit. So for 733 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: Joe web let's start very easy. You NBA fan, Okay, 734 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: all right, Clay Thompson or Steph Curry. Still everybody's saying, Steph, 735 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: how do people not seek Like I want to thought 736 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: you would have picked Clay Thompson. Clay. Clay is a 737 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: great player, Don't get me wrong. I think Steph can 738 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: create more shots for himself than Clay. Yeah. I just 739 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: think Clay does the all round. That's why. Yeah, he 740 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: does the defense. Yeah, you're right, all right, So let's 741 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: go this one. Jannie or Kauhi. Yeah, I'm starting to 742 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: like starting to go the other way. We're starting to 743 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: go the other way. You can be the CEO of 744 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: a company either Facebook or Netflix. Netflix. Okay, I like that, 745 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: like that answer. You can relive one athletes life from 746 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: the beginning the present day Lebron or Michael Michael. I 747 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: like it. I like it. That's a little bit of 748 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: old school coming out right, Dan Jordan. I mean, he 749 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: has a unique story. A lot of people don't know. 750 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: He got cut from the high school team. He got cut, 751 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: so he had to bounce back from that. You know, 752 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: if he don't make it high school team, he don't 753 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: go to North Carolina, he don't go to the Bulls. 754 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: So you know, um, and you know, I just I 755 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: grew up watching Jordan. You know, I remember watching regular 756 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: season games. You know, make sure you had to do 757 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: your homework earlier just so you can watch the games. 758 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 1: So who you grow up rooting for? Though? Like what team? 759 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: But the Bulls? It was definitely him. What about the 760 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: Birmingham parents too? I did. I watched him play when 761 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: he played for the Barons. He went to the game 762 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: very cool. Was that weird to watch him play baseball? 763 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: It was weird. He struck out a cup time? Hey 764 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: the guy this fans still tier where he struck out? 765 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: Of course, I mean it's it's Michael Jordan. But all right, 766 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: all right, you kind of we're good. We started getting 767 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: some Lebrons. We did get a lot of Michaels. Of course, 768 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: Josh Ferguson was in here and he was from Chicago, 769 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: so he had the same Michael. So so it's pretty good. 770 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: Last one old town road. Either country or hip hop, 771 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: I would say, I would say country, that exactly. Billy's 772 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: the one who changes. Billy makes a country. Well, Johnny, 773 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: I have a man crushed out Joe Webb. That's all 774 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 1: I have to say about Well, for good reason. Joe 775 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: is fantastic on radio. He's a fantastic football player, and 776 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: I love having him on the team because there's so 777 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: much that you can do with him. And I've thought 778 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: about this concept at some point. Mark of the players 779 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: on the Texans, what player could play every position on 780 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: the field if he had to, If you had to, 781 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: which player could play? Yeah? Why? JJ probably could. He 782 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: probably could. Look, he helped me work the espresso machine earlier. Okay, 783 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: what can do anything? Yeah, that's true. Well, I think 784 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: Joe Webb can do anything too. Yeah, I think I 785 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: don't think Joe can play off in the line. But 786 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's that's the thing about football. Oh 787 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: by the way, Okay, here my overtime thing. Yeah. So 788 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: we had the Vander Kid Flag Football League, the Go 789 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: Texan it's not a Go Texan league, it's an NFL 790 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: Play sixty league. I say, Go Texans. It's Texan flag 791 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: Football dot Com down a new territory. So we've been 792 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: fortunate to win this league twice in a row, three 793 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: to the last four, four to the last six. Pretty good. Uh, 794 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: same core group of kids to get a lot of fun. Anyway, 795 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: great kids. I love coaching them. So we had overtime 796 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: yesterday and in flag football for the championship for the 797 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: championship zero zero going into overtime, yeah yeah, zero zero. 798 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: So here we are and it's two good teams and 799 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: it's great, really high stress. I mean I'm just like, 800 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: oh man, the stress. It was awesome, great feeling. So 801 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: the overtime rule, it's it's points, yes, but you keep 802 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: the ball for four players, so if you get extra yards, 803 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: it's a total number of yards and the points you 804 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: get whatever. The other coach took the ball first for 805 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: some reason, all right, whatever, So we knew exactly what 806 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: we needed. We were able to win the game. But 807 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 1: the point was this, I started thinking if the NFL 808 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: goes to this, all right, each team gets a possession 809 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: no matter what, just like everyone wanted to see Kansas 810 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: City get a shot out of it in the AFC 811 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: shot at it in the AFC Championship game after the 812 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,479 Speaker 1: Patriots scored their touchdown. If that happens, would you say, 813 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: all right, I'd rather go second. I don't want the 814 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: ball right away because I want to see exactly what 815 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: I need to do with my possession if a field 816 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: goal is acceptable or not. Because if you drive down 817 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: the field and you have the ball first and you 818 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: have to kick a field goal, you're like, all right, 819 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: I get it. I got to stop them from scoring 820 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: a touchdown. But would you rather know or just take 821 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: the ball first? Is time still a factor? I think 822 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: it is because as we say this, I remember when 823 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: they were floating all this stuff out there, and somehow 824 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: this stuff leaks out there, and I think they want 825 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: to get a gauge. They want to here you know, 826 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 1: a big crowd talk about it. Yeah, yeah, crowdsourcing, thank you. 827 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: And I think that the talk was around keeping the 828 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: overtime at ten minutes, to which I say, all right, 829 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: you're keeping it at ten minutes for safety and getting 830 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: out of the game quickly purposes. Yet you're having them 831 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: play more football because you're giving them an extra possession 832 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: if the other team scores a touchdown. You know how 833 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 1: I feel about overtime anyway, it should be sudden death period, 834 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: end of story. Next team that scores wins, thank you done. 835 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: But it's not going to be that way now in 836 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: college when you have that both team gets the ball thing, 837 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: there's the clock's not a factor, not a factor at all. 838 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: But if the clock is a factor, I want the 839 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: ball first. It's like George Springer not as hurt, but 840 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: George Springer getting abs as the leadoff guy, he's gonna 841 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: get more abs. Yeah, he's gonna get more at bats 842 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: hitting in the in the number one spot. So if 843 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: I get the ball first and in time as a factor, 844 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: I get the ball first, I'll get it a third time. 845 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: So like in the Colts Texas game, the game four 846 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: week four, they got the ball first for minute drive, 847 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: kicked the field goal. We got it back four plus 848 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: minutes fuegal. They had the ball third time, right and 849 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: had they gotten the third down play, they could have 850 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: kept it kicked the field goal. I just you're probably 851 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: not going to get to four drives in overtime. So 852 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: I'm just going analytics guy on you. I think the 853 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: most you'll get his three drives. Well, you going first, 854 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: we'll get two of them. Yeah, you want to make 855 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: sure you maximize your possessions. So if time is If 856 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: time is a factor, I want the ball first. If 857 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: time's not the factor, I will always go second. I'll 858 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: like it, Johnny, Thank you. Mark. That is going to 859 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: do it for the show tonight. It's been a blast. 860 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: Thanks to Joe Webb and Julio and Davenport for being 861 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: on tomorrow. Plenty of talk about the OTAs as Bill O'Brien. 862 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: We'll get his reaction to practice. We'll hear from several 863 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: Texans players along the way as well. Big week for 864 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: us here obviously Memorial Day weekend for you, but you'll 865 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: be hearing from Texans all week long, weeknights six to 866 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: seven here on the flagship Sports Radio six ten and 867 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: the Texans app. Don't forget about Texans three to sixty 868 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: Saturday nights at eleven o'clock on ABC thirteen, a can't 869 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: miss show, and Clint Stirner, who you hear a lot 870 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: on Sports Radio six ten, will be on Texans three 871 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: sixties Saturday night, eleven o'clock ABC thirteen. Go to Houston 872 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: Texans dot com for videos, articles, all the stuff about 873 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: your favorite football team. 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