00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guest to my home. You gotta come to me empty, and I said, no, guests, your presences presence in and I already had too muched up. So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:49 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger. We're in the backyard. It's ninety five degrees. Those are some things that are happening. I'm just back from the store. I had to return a bottle of vitamins that had been tampered with. I broke the seal and found the other seal broken, so God knows what was happening with that bottle of vitamins. But this could have been like an advil killer situation. This could have been me, but I didn't fall for it. They took them back and gave me less money than I paid for them. But what are you going to do? I'm not going to be the victim of the men's daily vitamin killer. And that's my mourning. We're getting into the podcast. I really adore today's guests. She's just so wonderful. It's Mary Holland Mary, Welcome to I. 00:01:37 Speaker 3: Said, Noko guy, thank you for having me. 00:01:40 Speaker 2: I'm happy to have you here. 00:01:41 Speaker 3: I'm thrilled to be here. 00:01:43 Speaker 2: There is a slight breeze. 00:01:45 Speaker 3: There's a nice breeze. 00:01:46 Speaker 2: Ye, yes's some sort of relief. 00:01:48 Speaker 4: And you're really beautifully surrounded by greenery and foliage. I mean you're perfectly framed. 00:01:53 Speaker 2: And behind you is just kind of a white stucco. 00:01:56 Speaker 3: And that was what I requested. 00:01:57 Speaker 4: Yes, this was a purpose and I did request that power balance it is. Yeah, yeah, I find that I really I tend to really pop against the dullest of backgrounds. 00:02:10 Speaker 2: How's your morning so far? 00:02:11 Speaker 3: It's been good, thank you. 00:02:13 Speaker 4: I woke up bright and early, early, trying to do. 00:02:19 Speaker 3: Seven. 00:02:20 Speaker 2: Okay, that feels bright and early to me. 00:02:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's bright and early. 00:02:23 Speaker 4: Although there was a morning a few weeks ago when I woke up at six and normally I would say, going straight back to sleep. We're going to try to at least or maybe I'll just be on my phone in the bed for another few hours. But then I thought what if I got up and it was still dark outside? And they did? And it really I know there are people who are real mourning, people who get out at that time, all the time, and I have to say I understood it. 00:02:55 Speaker 3: I sort of got a little high from it. It was like art I bad like getting up that early. 00:03:04 Speaker 4: It was very exciting, and then come noon, You're like, I've already had. 00:03:08 Speaker 3: A day, full day, full day. 00:03:10 Speaker 2: This was me for a period. I was waking up naturally at six am, oh god, bless getting things done, or even just like enjoying how quiet it was and how still it was. And I thought that was the new me. It simply wasn't. It was just something something was wrong with my body. And now we're back to just I can wake up, but it doesn't I have no idea what I'll be waking up. I love that my biological clock is it's all over. 00:03:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeahs as is all of ours. I feel like, you know, there's this movement I'm sure you're aware of of the circadian rhythm. All people who sort of really are diligent about letting sunlight hit their eyeballs first thing in the morning, so they start producing melatonin right and then come sunset, it's off with the screens, off with the light bulbs. 00:03:57 Speaker 3: We're going candle light? 00:03:58 Speaker 2: Is that true? Are some people do and candle light. 00:04:00 Speaker 4: Candle light or they do red light bulb, which I guess eerie, and it's not. 00:04:09 Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with sleep. They just like it to be creepy there in their home. 00:04:12 Speaker 2: It's nighttime, they should be they should be spooky. They turned on the bog Machine, the Halloween sound effects CD. 00:04:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have their werewolf guy going. It's great. But how long was the period of time when you were waking up. 00:04:26 Speaker 2: I feel like it was a good chunk of time to the point that there was like this. It was probably six to nine months. 00:04:31 Speaker 5: Wow. 00:04:31 Speaker 2: It was like all this is me now, yes, And I didn't have to do anything to do it. 00:04:35 Speaker 3: It just it just happened. 00:04:36 Speaker 2: I'm now this person. 00:04:38 Speaker 5: Wow. 00:04:38 Speaker 2: And I don't know what shifted it, because it wasn't like, oh, right at the beginning of the pandemic it started. I think it was like mid wow, okay or whatever. I don't know what the timeline is at this point. But then it went away again. It was like a little treat that my body gave to me for a while. Interesting, they realized, oh, I'm not getting that much done in the morning. Maybe I'm not just to wake five hours before I I am, yeah, I'm not camp at eleven, I am. 00:05:02 Speaker 3: Let's be cool. Well, I mean, I wouldn't judge you if you did. I get it. 00:05:07 Speaker 4: Although as I get older, not that i'm I'm turning twenty two next week, but as I get older, I am it. It is actually harder to sleep in too late, right, right, it's hard to do. 00:05:22 Speaker 2: You really have to go pretty hard to the night before. You have to be up to the middle of the night in order to sleep past nine thirty ten o'clock. 00:05:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, and my anxiety alone will simply not allow it. 00:05:32 Speaker 2: The way now for the falling asleep. 00:05:35 Speaker 4: A little bit of both, or the stain asleep, I'll I'm one of those people, which I guess it does happen. I read an article that you can trace this pattern of sleeping back to the Industrial Revolution, oh, which is where I trace all my habits. 00:05:55 Speaker 2: And to be clear, that's when you think earth began. You've got an interesting view on science. 00:06:02 Speaker 4: Yes, that's when the world began, and we've just hit the ground running, you know. But they would implement this schedule of sleep where you would sleep for four hours and then wake up in the middle of the night, stoke the fire do the whatever you know, and then you'd fall back asleep. So a lot of people have inherited this sleep pattern where you you fall asleep at you know, a normal time ish, ten eleven something, and then you wake up at two or three, and then you're just awake awake. 00:06:32 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you're gonna say and go back to bed. No, that's my cycle. 00:06:35 Speaker 4: Oh good for you. I cannot fall back asleep. Oh you can't have a hard time whatever. I haven't slept in years. 00:06:42 Speaker 2: You look terrible. 00:06:43 Speaker 3: Thank you for your last record. 00:06:45 Speaker 4: This is it, This is it? Yeah, magic, very sick, it was someone, please help me. 00:06:53 Speaker 3: I'm losing my mind. 00:06:54 Speaker 2: But usually when you wake up in the middle of the night, it's just like now, I'm awake. 00:06:57 Speaker 4: Now I'm awake at least for I'm looking at I know that I'm going to be looking at if it's a good night, an hour, oh, if it's a tough night, two hours and. 00:07:08 Speaker 2: Those if not more. And then when you fall back asleep, it's now meaningless, should be waking. 00:07:11 Speaker 4: Two more hours exactly exact wasted time. It's wasted time. It feels terrible, and my brain is like this, I think now is when we should probably think about all your fears. 00:07:21 Speaker 3: All your way. 00:07:22 Speaker 2: That's an interesting little soothing trick the brain. 00:07:25 Speaker 3: Does it is, isn't it. 00:07:27 Speaker 2: The body really betrays you at your weakest moments. It's wild. 00:07:31 Speaker 3: It does. 00:07:32 Speaker 2: When I get pressed out, I get a cold sore, and it's like, oh, this is gosh. Isn't helping any of the situation. This only multiplies it by a thousand? 00:07:39 Speaker 3: Yes, what is the goal? 00:07:40 Speaker 2: Right? Is the body? 00:07:42 Speaker 3: What are you trying to do? 00:07:43 Speaker 2: I've got a bad body. 00:07:44 Speaker 3: It's just if I had a nickel for every time I thought that. 00:07:48 Speaker 2: Every time somebody on the street. Men are constantly calling out to me, bad body. 00:07:55 Speaker 3: So maybe that's like bad body, that's all they. 00:07:59 Speaker 2: Mean, sweetie, bad body. 00:08:03 Speaker 3: Thanks ton, that's nice. 00:08:07 Speaker 2: What time are you going to bed? Usually? 00:08:10 Speaker 3: Well, oh boy. 00:08:13 Speaker 4: I go in phases where I'm like, I don't know if you feel this way, but part of me still can't quite believe I'm an adult, and so just as an act of I can stay up as late as I want, I will stay up past midnight. 00:08:30 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 00:08:30 Speaker 2: Sometimes, But how many days a week would you say that? 00:08:33 Speaker 3: I mean recently none? Maybe one? 00:08:36 Speaker 4: Or two? 00:08:36 Speaker 3: Okay? Seven? Like one? 00:08:40 Speaker 2: Maybe two right out of the gate with a lot of conflicting lies. That's me. 00:08:47 Speaker 4: But I have started trying to wind down, brush the teeth, start the process of going to bed, even if I'm not going to if I'm not tired or gonna fall asleep around ten, Yeah. 00:08:59 Speaker 2: It's a nice time. 00:09:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, what about you? 00:09:02 Speaker 2: I am usually bed at about twelve oh six almost every night for whatever reason. I'm like, well, I was gonna say whatever I'm doing, but it's playing Nintendo. I will realize while playing Nintendo, I think it's time to go to bed, and then it'll be twelve oh six. Yeah, but starting at ten o'clock is when I've put on my pajamas, right, and my boyfriend goes to sleep about ten thirty, and then I have an hour and a half. 00:09:25 Speaker 3: To your U time. 00:09:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nintendo. Nintendo could be used on other things, but that's what it is lately. Nintendo is valid and valuable. It is valuable. 00:09:35 Speaker 3: Absolutely. It's what game are you playing? 00:09:37 Speaker 2: Zelda? 00:09:38 Speaker 4: Oh? 00:09:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, Shelda. 00:09:39 Speaker 2: I'm on board with Zelda. 00:09:40 Speaker 4: Oh okay, it's interesting you asked that because I recently. 00:09:47 Speaker 3: Invested in a switch. I almost said Twitch. 00:09:51 Speaker 2: But that's different. That's a different. That's a platform. 00:09:53 Speaker 3: That's a platform. 00:09:54 Speaker 2: We're streaming there. 00:09:55 Speaker 3: That's right. Oh are we? 00:09:57 Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm saying the the Royal Oh, the Royal. The Royal Way is streaming on Twitch. 00:10:04 Speaker 4: Everyone who's anyone like and subscribe? Yes, I And And because I was like, you know what I want to I like games. 00:10:14 Speaker 3: I used to. I loved Sega growing up and Game Boy. I loved all that. 00:10:19 Speaker 4: So I was like, I should get back into games and I so I got a switch and I was reading like what are the best games to get? 00:10:25 Speaker 3: And one of them was Call of the Breath of. 00:10:29 Speaker 2: The Wild, Breath of the Wild, Zelda, Breath of the Wild. So that's what you're playing? 00:10:33 Speaker 4: Well, no, no, I tried to play it. 00:10:38 Speaker 2: Loved the graphics, beautiful, gorgeous, you're in another world, you really are. 00:10:44 Speaker 4: The artistry of it, but I I'm not. I just have to make myself do it because I'm just not adept at the at the. 00:10:52 Speaker 2: Control A lot to learn if you haven't played in a long time. 00:10:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot. 00:10:56 Speaker 4: And also like the changing of the view and it's simply is too much and I don't know quite what I'm supposed to do this reminds me of we got at the beginning of the pandemic. We got a PlayStation, okay, and my sister was like, get a Red Dead Redemption too, boy, I love it. And I was like great, and so I got it again. 00:11:17 Speaker 2: Beautiful graphics, another world you're transported to. 00:11:21 Speaker 4: I mean, gosh, you can feel the winter, you know. But I started playing it and I was kind of going along, and I truly have been playing for maybe twenty minutes, and then I hit the wrong button and I punched my horse in the head. 00:11:37 Speaker 3: And the horse like Nate, like he was hurt. 00:11:42 Speaker 4: And I was so horrified that I refused to play it ever again. 00:11:46 Speaker 2: That game I've played for probably a half hour. 00:11:48 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:11:49 Speaker 2: I became a little bored and stole a wagon, drove to I think New Orleans or something was killed, and I was like, I think that's about what this game is. I'm done, Okay, I. 00:11:57 Speaker 4: Think I got the whole great experience. I love that you stole a wagon. 00:12:03 Speaker 2: Yeah that's a wagon. Yeah a horse and yeah, yeah wagon or buggy or what happened? Good for you flying through the desert or the wild West? The South? Here we are New Orleans. Someone's shooting my brains out. 00:12:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that whole game. 00:12:16 Speaker 2: Let's move on. 00:12:17 Speaker 3: Let's move on. That's it. 00:12:21 Speaker 4: But yeah, so all that's to say, so I haven't I haven't gotten back into Zella, but I love that you are you playing Breath of the Wild. 00:12:27 Speaker 2: I'm playing Tears of the Kingdom, the one next, the new new one, which I will say has added a new element, which is even if you're having a hard time with this, there's like an element where you have to build things. You have to like use physics and construction, which to me is a direct attack on the gay community. I do not. I am not good at that. So there's suddenly this part of the game where I'm like, I could use some I could use a straight man here to build the wagon or whatever we're doing. It looks horrible, but I'm having a good time. Otherwise I just ignore the building. I ignore the fighting. 00:13:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, fighting, I can't quite do. So what is there? Because all I've. 00:13:05 Speaker 4: Encountered in Zelda is is fighting in or running away from things that want to fight you. 00:13:11 Speaker 2: My experience is simply running away from them. When forced, I will fight them. Okay, it's a real personality test. I think because my boyfriend plays it and he goes into the fights, he attacks, he uses all of the things he's collected. I hoard everything I've collected. I run away from every conflict. It's like exactly my life. I'm like, I should use this as a training thing. Yeah, for reality, you should like occasionally spend a few apples, occasionally head into conflict. Yes, but no, I've got probably a thousand apples. Oh god, and I'm very weak. 00:13:47 Speaker 4: You gotta eat those apples, Richard. You gotta eat apples. And also, like the whole thing with an inventory, I'm like, what what I can't be expected to check in here and keep track of this. 00:14:02 Speaker 2: There's so many things. There's too many things like tree branches, You've got rocks, You've got fifty different fish. 00:14:08 Speaker 3: I need like a scrub nurse. 00:14:09 Speaker 4: I need, I need, I need to just be like I gotta, I'm getting in this. And then like you know, she's like, here's a scalpel. 00:14:17 Speaker 2: That would be a great little assistant in the game. So just following you around. 00:14:20 Speaker 4: And just suggesting what you might want to use this and be like, thank you. 00:14:26 Speaker 2: No, I'm pretty stressed. Although like you get to do little errands. You're like, somebody's like, I need a mushroom, where you go get that for me? 00:14:32 Speaker 3: That's nice. 00:14:33 Speaker 2: Of course I'll go get that for you. And maybe I'll stop it and look at a cave on the way. 00:14:36 Speaker 3: Why not? 00:14:37 Speaker 2: Why not? I'm in this beautiful world. 00:14:39 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, And you can't. You can't just go explore. 00:14:42 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no. I've got to help people get their mushroom. 00:14:47 Speaker 3: That's true. That's true. 00:14:49 Speaker 5: Wow. 00:14:49 Speaker 2: Interesting. So how are you filling your days? 00:14:52 Speaker 3: Ooh, what a good crues. 00:14:54 Speaker 2: I'm not playing yellows and there's something else. 00:14:56 Speaker 4: There's something else happening, happening. Wow, am I filling my days? 00:15:02 Speaker 3: I do a lot of I try. 00:15:04 Speaker 4: To, uh keep abreast of little projects around the living space, you know, little improvements to be made here and there. 00:15:14 Speaker 2: And was some work being done on your house recently? And it was and it was what was happening. 00:15:18 Speaker 4: We we made the probably ill advised decision in the midst of a strike to. 00:15:30 Speaker 3: Replace our very old windows. 00:15:32 Speaker 4: Oh it's exciting because the new ones are going to be quite beautiful and they have much more energy efficient and it's going to be great. But our windows are like from you know, the fifties. 00:15:43 Speaker 2: And leaking, leaking the cool, leaking, the. 00:15:46 Speaker 3: Heat, leaking everything, leaking, the wet, leaking, leaking the drive. Of course, yeah. 00:15:53 Speaker 2: Windows are. I haven't replaced any windows, but I feel like anytime you're like I'm gonna do something, windows we've got like shades or whatever, way more expensive than you could possibly imagine. You fly into a panic and they're kind of a thing you have to take care of. It's not just a fun little thing. 00:16:09 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. 00:16:10 Speaker 2: How long did this take? 00:16:11 Speaker 3: It's an investment. Well, here's the thing. 00:16:15 Speaker 4: I went through a company that is was has been great, and signed the contract to do this back in May. 00:16:23 Speaker 2: When I was oh yeah, riding high nothing exactly wide. I'd so innocent, industry couldn't possibly be in trouble. 00:16:32 Speaker 4: And so the installation itself was supposed to only take a few days, but it is, of course, as with. 00:16:36 Speaker 3: Anything, take it much long. 00:16:39 Speaker 4: And our home is stucco, and then the window frames are and I didn't know anything about this before, but our aluminum, which is I guess how they used to do it, and nobody knew homes don't have that anymore because it's I guess they figured out a better way to do it. She figured out a better way to do it. So they had to like get in there and get the frame. 00:17:00 Speaker 2: It's quite a lot of work. And is this did they take them out one window at a time or is it all suddenly all the windows are gone? 00:17:08 Speaker 4: And this is what I didn't know, and now I do know, at least with this project. 00:17:14 Speaker 3: The first day it was like. 00:17:15 Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa windows are flying out of this house? 00:17:20 Speaker 3: Is we got a lot of open hole and a lot of flies flying in. 00:17:25 Speaker 4: And then it slowed down and then and then you know, after that first flurry, like a couple of small ones went out and new ones came in, and then and then it was like much more, like we slowed down quite okay, like we're doing one at a time now. 00:17:39 Speaker 2: And flies were the only wildlife that made it into the house. 00:17:42 Speaker 3: As far as I know. Interesting, I mean, I. 00:17:44 Speaker 2: Who knows what could be living in there at this point? Have you ever had a bird in the house? No? 00:17:49 Speaker 3: And I really want. 00:17:52 Speaker 2: Yes, of course, of course, anyone who's anyone who has had a bird. 00:17:57 Speaker 3: Flying into gosh, well, I feel like such a loser. 00:17:59 Speaker 4: No, it's flying within or in in like an attic space, or you couldn't see. 00:18:04 Speaker 2: In the house, in the house, enjoying itself. 00:18:06 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, tweeting, Oh of course on the internet, tweeting. 00:18:10 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was on X It got very all right. It was harassing all over the place. Yes, but you know it's a fun little but also scared because you don't want to hurt the bird. 00:18:22 Speaker 3: Yes, it is scary, and they're scared. 00:18:24 Speaker 4: They're like, what, of course, what happened to the sky. 00:18:28 Speaker 2: This isn't the sky I'm used to. 00:18:29 Speaker 3: This is much harder than Yeah, this guy is solid. This is crazy. 00:18:34 Speaker 4: No. 00:18:35 Speaker 2: I have a lot of birds making nests in the front of my house now, which oh, my boyfriend is very nervous about. I don't feel like it's that big of a deal. He's like, they're gonna dig into the house. Is that doesn't seem like something a bird actually does, right, right, I feel like, go ahead and enjoy it. 00:18:51 Speaker 3: Sure you didn't get the fuck out of here? 00:18:57 Speaker 4: You mean they're like on the eaves or like rivet right, But I guess there there's a beautiful little butterfly. 00:19:03 Speaker 3: Just oh how sweet is that? 00:19:06 Speaker 2: Now I'm hitting the ceiling. No, it's like kind of the sky demonstrating what a bird would feel like and it got out. 00:19:13 Speaker 3: Are there birds that burrow? There might be. I'm sure there are. 00:19:16 Speaker 2: I mean maybe a woodpecker that feels close. It feels close, but I feel like a little you know, standard issue bird standard right, Well, we think of as. 00:19:24 Speaker 4: Bird the you know, normal model, like we're not we're not getting an. 00:19:29 Speaker 2: Right off the shelf. Yeah, that is not burrowing it. 00:19:34 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. 00:19:35 Speaker 2: You're probably gonna get a lot of listeners saying on both sides here, we're gonna get a lot of the podcast will be attacked. Gosh, and I'll say where I from where I stand, I just leave them alone. Yeah, they're pretty loud chirping, but they're not in the house. 00:19:49 Speaker 3: And that's okay. 00:19:50 Speaker 2: Who cares enjoy enjoy live your. 00:19:52 Speaker 4: Lives exactly and and and it also it even becomes like with with a home, you're like, well, listen, I'm to human, how much like yes, I I I don't want black widow spiders right well? 00:20:07 Speaker 3: Am I to say you can't come in here? 00:20:09 Speaker 5: Now? 00:20:10 Speaker 2: I'm drawing a line. There are a few spiders that are not welcome in my home. Black Widow Widow's a scary one. That's it's tough, and what's the other they almost even scarier to me. I agree, that feels like the like dangerous, Like the cousin of the Black Widow, she's like, oh, I can't believe you came. 00:20:32 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, more problems than the party, or she's the one who's like, I mean, rolling stone gathers no moss. 00:20:38 Speaker 3: He's in saying yes, and but I sort of am like they don't. I have this moment of. 00:20:48 Speaker 4: Wow, humans wear a real blight on this in the face of this planet, but that all of these creatures are like trying to get shade or coolness or whatever, and they don't know about like property lines or like they don't it's who are we to impose this on them? They're just truly trying to survive. 00:21:07 Speaker 2: Well, how do we know? I mean, maybe the Black Widow's running around being like I feel like I'm invading space, this giant thing. 00:21:14 Speaker 3: Oh gosh. And then we've had this and they're like and everyone hates me this crazy red hour. 00:21:23 Speaker 4: Glass on my abdomen and everyone thinks I'm so bad and I'm just trying to live. 00:21:29 Speaker 2: You never know. So with the black widow, unfortunately, I'm probably, let's say it, I'm squishing it. Okay, I have to squish a black widow. Yeah, I don't know how other people feel about that. A lot of spiders am like, I'm trying to help you on your ways. 00:21:43 Speaker 4: Yes, I try to lead outside. 00:21:47 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know. 00:21:48 Speaker 3: I know a bird? What do you do? How did you get the bird out? 00:21:52 Speaker 2: Oh? In the house? Yeah, you just I think I ended up opening a window and taking the screen off. 00:21:57 Speaker 3: You know. 00:21:57 Speaker 2: It's like you kind of chase it around. Yeah, and eventually they kind of accidentally get out of the house. Yeah great, or we could say on purpose. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, they had a plan to get out. 00:22:09 Speaker 3: They had a plan. They saw the window open, and. 00:22:11 Speaker 2: Right they smelled the outside. 00:22:13 Speaker 4: If birds smell, I was just gonna ask, do they really smell? They got those holes in their beaks? 00:22:19 Speaker 2: Do they have the holes in the beak? Or is that a cartoons Maybe that's a picture a cartoon bird with holes in its beak. 00:22:26 Speaker 3: I'm picturing specifically duck or goose. 00:22:29 Speaker 2: Oh right, right. 00:22:31 Speaker 3: Man, I really don't know much about birds. 00:22:33 Speaker 2: At least can birds smell on alis? It's got an answer. 00:22:37 Speaker 5: Okay. 00:22:37 Speaker 6: People used to believe that birds had very little sense of smell, but advanced research is changing that idea. For example, tricky vultures find carry on by smell, and seabirds that wander the ocean catch a faint whiff of food from far away. 00:22:49 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:22:50 Speaker 2: Interesting, So they can at least smell death. That's one thing we know about birds. Good to know. 00:22:59 Speaker 3: That's great, that's a great quality. I wish I had. I bet you do. 00:23:04 Speaker 2: I bet I'm not giving myself a. 00:23:06 Speaker 3: Decay and decomposition. I bet you would be able to. 00:23:10 Speaker 2: I've just got several corpses in my house that I haven't noticed yet. 00:23:13 Speaker 3: Oh my god. And you're talking about a bird. Oh, bricher. Your skeletons in your walls. 00:23:22 Speaker 2: Walls are lined with dead bodies. That's fine, I've whatever. Whatever, I'll do something more humiliating, something you should be embarrassed about. I was really excited to have you here today. I'm thrilled Mary Hollands coming over. We'll sit in the heat, we'll sweat together. That's nice bonding activity. 00:23:42 Speaker 3: It's nice. 00:23:44 Speaker 2: So I was a little surprised. I'm coming out of the house, you're coming through the back fence. We almost run into each other. Yeah, you're holding a gift bag. 00:23:52 Speaker 3: That's right. 00:23:53 Speaker 2: A podcast is called. I said no gifts, right, and I already feel like you're back pedaling. I can yes, see you sweating your brains. 00:24:04 Speaker 4: Yes, And you know what, And as soon as I walked through that gate, I thought, all my gosh. 00:24:11 Speaker 3: And I did a real palm to forehead. 00:24:14 Speaker 2: You physically slapped yourself. 00:24:16 Speaker 3: I did hard, hard, but I did. 00:24:20 Speaker 5: I did. 00:24:21 Speaker 3: I brought a. 00:24:21 Speaker 2: Gift Okay, right, I'm looking at it. I'm thinking, I'm just breathing. It's in a brown bag. 00:24:28 Speaker 3: Shore in a brown back. 00:24:29 Speaker 2: Should I open it here on the podcast? 00:24:31 Speaker 3: You know what, I would actually like that, you know. 00:24:34 Speaker 2: What, today today let's throw caution to the wind. I'm happy to open it on the podcast. 00:24:38 Speaker 3: This is exciting. 00:24:39 Speaker 2: It's a rare thing for me to do. Very rarely do I open the gift up. Rarely does anyone bring one. 00:24:45 Speaker 3: So oh gosh, well for you, Thank you to this, Thank you, Richard. 00:24:50 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. 00:25:12 Speaker 2: It's in this brown bag, you know, like a marked unmarked which you never know, could be a surprise, could be a threat, but we love both. I'm going to reach in. I haven't tried to guess recently. You know, when I reach in, I'm feeling there's like I feel some sort of cardboard like thing containing a rubbery thing. I'm picturing like it's almost like a squeaky toy or a horn or something that's gonna make a noise. And let's uh, let's circle back to horns. Wells say, right now, there's someone in Los Angeles with a train horn in their car. No, someone's got to find this person. What it is the loudest noise. It is so dangerous, that's insane. I heard it twice recently. Are they following? 00:25:53 Speaker 3: Are in this neighborhood? 00:25:55 Speaker 5: No? 00:25:55 Speaker 2: I think this was in the valley a jay Leno. Interesting. 00:25:59 Speaker 3: Interesting. I wouldn't put it past him. 00:26:03 Speaker 2: He loves his cube. Make way, it's me, but someone's it is illegal. It must be illegal. 00:26:08 Speaker 3: It has to be, because that seems. 00:26:09 Speaker 2: To hear a train horn behind you in a car. 00:26:11 Speaker 4: My gosh, I would I would bail, I would bait, I would open the car, I would. 00:26:17 Speaker 2: The purpose is for the horn exactly. Okay, Now that I've guessed it's a horn. Let's pull it out. Oh interest, Oh well it's not a horn. It is rubber. It's a pumpkin ice Troy. This is wonderful. 00:26:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like a lease. 00:26:32 Speaker 2: Were we just talking about some sort of ice tray on the podcast? I probably talked about ice a lot on I mean, this is how could you know? So it's like a little ice cube maker. I'm going to be using these every day. 00:26:45 Speaker 3: I'm excited. 00:26:46 Speaker 2: It makes a little adorable pumpkin ice ice cube, little. 00:26:50 Speaker 4: Ice cube to decorate your your juice or your cocktail or your coffee, everything, your coffee or ice coffee. 00:26:58 Speaker 2: Why, I mean other and the obvious. This is just such a wonderful thing to have in the house. 00:27:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, well this isn't essential. 00:27:04 Speaker 2: Do you have one in your house? 00:27:05 Speaker 3: I don't? And now I really Now I'm actually feeling like fuck, why did I Do you make ice cubes for your Yes? 00:27:12 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, just standard ice cubes. 00:27:14 Speaker 4: Well we have, we do standard ice cubes, but then we also do big globes or skinnies, a long skinny, a long skinny that you would put in like a Collins glass, like. 00:27:25 Speaker 2: Oh, I haven't seen it feels dangerous to me. 00:27:29 Speaker 3: Right, incredibly dangerous. 00:27:32 Speaker 2: Rotch. 00:27:33 Speaker 3: You don't. You gotta guard your gullet because it'll slip. 00:27:36 Speaker 2: Right now, just throw your head back and don't drink down your throat. 00:27:39 Speaker 4: No, which actually is good because it prevents me from doing that, because otherwise that's how. 00:27:43 Speaker 2: It's a safety measure. 00:27:44 Speaker 3: Safety. 00:27:46 Speaker 2: Wow. So you have two different types of ice. 00:27:47 Speaker 4: Cubes, yes, and I'm trying to think three. And but I I love a good ice cube mold. I think it. It's a really fun way to spruce up, right, a beverage, right, and it makes it an event, you. 00:28:00 Speaker 2: Know, every drinking event, every Yes, that's your business, that's my business, that's. 00:28:04 Speaker 3: My brand, every drinking event. 00:28:08 Speaker 4: And also we're approaching spooky season, right, We're approaching the harvest season, and so what fun to kick it off with ice cubes in the shape of pumpkins. 00:28:20 Speaker 2: I am so happy about this. I've recently been hating my ice cube tray I really of course I bought. The one I bought was simply the worst one you can possibly buy. It was probably ninety nine cents. I've owned plastic, plastic, white plastic, truly a garbage. 00:28:37 Speaker 3: The one that you twist. 00:28:38 Speaker 2: You have to get them out. Of course, every morning. I'm mad at it because I put one ice cube into my coffee every morning and it's it's been a drag recently, It's been a drag for years. 00:28:49 Speaker 4: For years, if we're being honest. Well, I'm so thrilled because this could this could be the solution. 00:28:53 Speaker 2: Right, I wonder with this so oh, okay, so you pour it in through this little hole in. 00:28:57 Speaker 3: The top, and yeah, it's. 00:29:00 Speaker 2: Going to be a lot of work, my work for the week. 00:29:04 Speaker 3: And you're so welcome. 00:29:06 Speaker 4: I have to say this this specific mold I because ours. 00:29:11 Speaker 3: How do we do it? 00:29:13 Speaker 2: Yeah? With the long skinny ones, I'm wondering long. 00:29:15 Speaker 3: Oh, the long skinny ones. 00:29:16 Speaker 4: It's actually it's like a silicon tray like this, but then they have like long rectangular things. 00:29:20 Speaker 3: Do you fill it up just. 00:29:21 Speaker 2: As the kind of carefully take it to the freezer? 00:29:24 Speaker 4: This is this is going to require some like surgical level precision, right to get the water in there so that you don't Yes, and I did create more work for you, but I do think that the end result will be. 00:29:37 Speaker 3: It's worth Yeah. 00:29:39 Speaker 2: I almost feel like what I'm going to do is use four ice cubes every time, oh, and then just refill because rather than one. And then they are worrying, Oh what if I forget tomorrow exactly and there's gonna be a lot of water use and we are in a desert water billed triples quadruples. 00:29:59 Speaker 4: Alone. 00:30:00 Speaker 3: Gosh, I'm so sorry. 00:30:01 Speaker 2: You're gonna stop watering the plants in order to make them for this? 00:30:05 Speaker 3: Okay? Oh gosh, I'm so sorry. 00:30:08 Speaker 2: I mean, my life has been been really difficult recently, and now suddenly, you know, we've been looking for a final straw and this and this may be it may just pushes you over the edge kind of snap and start over. 00:30:22 Speaker 4: Well, listen, that wasn't my intention, but I'm thrilled to be a part of, you know, change. 00:30:27 Speaker 3: I think that's good. 00:30:29 Speaker 2: Are you a big uh not only holiday but specifically Halloween decoration person? The answer is yeah, So what does that mean for you? 00:30:36 Speaker 4: I love Halloween. It's my favorite holiday. And I got married on Halloween. 00:30:39 Speaker 2: Oh that's exciting. 00:30:42 Speaker 4: It was very exciting, and I just I have loved it since childhood. I love the atmosphere of it, I love the feel of it. I love spooky, eerie, scary things. I'm not a big sawhead, like, I don't go for the gore, the gore necessarily, but I really love like, oh, a fog, a misty fog around a mansion you know, speak my language, the haunted mansion at Disneyland AE right, the greatest I could spend my whole weary moment. 00:31:18 Speaker 2: And it's all I look for. 00:31:20 Speaker 4: That's all I look for. So yeah, so I really love it. It's my favorite. It's my favorite time of year, is my favorite holiday, and so yeah, do you. 00:31:26 Speaker 2: Have a favorite Halloween decoration you put up? 00:31:29 Speaker 4: We recently last year was the first time we had a yard space where we could put things out. 00:31:37 Speaker 3: We made many trips to Home Depot, which has great. 00:31:39 Speaker 2: We've got quite a selection. They've got that big old skeleton, home of the twelve foot skeleton, home of that. Where will those all end up eventually? Army building? An army Yes, it's brilliant. 00:31:52 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we got to. 00:31:54 Speaker 4: Mobilize those skeletons. That is brilliant. 00:31:57 Speaker 2: Whoever invented that? As having an Oppenheimer moment of like, what have I done? What have I brought into the world? 00:32:03 Speaker 5: Done? 00:32:04 Speaker 2: Giant skeletons oh, Mark my words. 00:32:07 Speaker 3: I just wanted to see if it would work. And guess what it does. They also came out with I think they came out with it last year. But it's really cool. 00:32:17 Speaker 4: And I if I had four hundred dollars to spend. 00:32:23 Speaker 3: On this kind of thing, gosh, I'd love to. I simply don't. But it is a nine foot werewolf oh that has tattered. 00:32:35 Speaker 4: Like a tattered like flannel shirt and like jeans shorts that are all ripped open from the old jean's eye and it's on its hind legs and it like it's motion activated, so when you walk in front of it, its eyes like led the pupils dialegs, and then it is like jaw opens and he lets out this crazy howl. 00:32:55 Speaker 3: It's so cool, but. 00:32:57 Speaker 2: You're not you don't know. 00:32:58 Speaker 3: But anyway, we don't have that. 00:32:59 Speaker 4: And so. 00:33:01 Speaker 2: Like a string of pumpkin lights. 00:33:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like we tried to oh god, this was we won't do this this year because it simply looked it looked like garbage. Because it was garbage. 00:33:11 Speaker 4: We were like trying to look up all these because Halloween decorations are expensive, and they were like, how can we diy some of this, and so we we wanted to make a coven of witches hands joined around a cauldron, of course, and so we like looked up these tutorials of like, here's how you can make witches with yardsticks, some trash bags, right, and little witch. 00:33:39 Speaker 2: Which chance that's the one thing you got to buy at the store. 00:33:41 Speaker 3: Well, that's it, because otherwise it's just yea have. 00:33:45 Speaker 2: A fireman's hat on it and it doesn't matter, and. 00:33:47 Speaker 3: Then it's like a coven of firemen. What are we doing doing some sort of spell over the cauldron? 00:33:56 Speaker 4: But we did, and I feel like we did a pretty good job of assembling that. But they looked pretty sad and pretty bad. 00:34:04 Speaker 2: They looked bad. 00:34:05 Speaker 4: Well, they just looked like just we had just put trash bags on sticks and then put a witch hat on it. 00:34:11 Speaker 2: Trash bags are a little too shiny. 00:34:13 Speaker 4: And that I think was our right. I picked out Matte a right. 00:34:19 Speaker 3: Trash bags still too shiny, old mad trash bag. 00:34:24 Speaker 2: It's a classy trash bag. 00:34:26 Speaker 4: I feel like you can get trash bags that are really heavy duty for like construction materials, and those tend to be a bit a bit more of a Matte machine but even so, you're not escaping the fact that it's a trash backs garbage. 00:34:39 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, no matter what that should be holding trash, that's right, But did you did you have to fill it up with anything or you're just kind of draping it over a yard stick? 00:34:48 Speaker 4: First we tried draping, and we discovered that doesn't work. The vinag justk was like a stick that's covered in nothing like. 00:34:52 Speaker 2: The bag flew through the yard and why did we have yard sticks up? 00:34:57 Speaker 4: This is our fault, this is and we got a huge fight and then we realized, no, you gotta step, you gotta make a head. 00:35:04 Speaker 3: And so you have to. 00:35:04 Speaker 4: Stuff the end of the trash bag with and then sent it to give it a neck. Interesting, you know, do you remember, like in elementary school or something, when you would make those ghosts with out of like suckers, of course, or with blow pops, when you'd take the wrapper off and you'd make like a little Superman. 00:35:28 Speaker 2: Right, it's almost like a cape. Yeah, a cape. 00:35:31 Speaker 3: That's that's what it was. That's what we're trying to do. 00:35:34 Speaker 2: But you were mostly satisfied you left them out there. 00:35:37 Speaker 3: We did. 00:35:37 Speaker 2: You're gonna compliments. 00:35:39 Speaker 4: Not on those, but we did get a compliment. We had some other things. I did invest in these these cool light up pumpkins from home Deeper that were very cool. It was like a tower of pumpkins. 00:35:49 Speaker 2: Oh that's nice. 00:35:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was cool. 00:35:51 Speaker 2: And did you have any Jack the lantern? So you made yourselves? 00:35:54 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, and of course you know they rot after you look at us exactly, but we did. We we carved some pumpkins and then we just got right, just pumpkins uncarved, scattered them throughout me too. 00:36:09 Speaker 2: A pat Yes, teens aren't smashing it on the street. I'm not no stepping in it. What do you carve in a jack leander? Are you're a traditionalist or are you like, you know, carving uh the Queen of England or whatever into it? 00:36:24 Speaker 3: No, I'm not doing anything fancy. I did try to do a I did. 00:36:28 Speaker 4: Oh I looked up as this was years ago, but I did like a gravestone with the hand reaching out. That was pretty fancy. I do have a picture of that, right, it was years ago, and since then, you know, it was a lot of work, too much work, too much work, and so I just. 00:36:45 Speaker 2: Do triangles in there and exactly ragged smile. That's all I need. 00:36:52 Speaker 4: I did the last year I made my you know, because normally you got the classic He's smiling jack O Landers smiling. He got ones that look evil, like, you know, the eyebrows really changed, so you gotta give eyebrows. And so I did one that was just really worried this time last year I did. I did like a real worried pumpkin. And I really like it. I like that it's the time of the year to be worried. 00:37:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sitting. 00:37:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, you shouldn't just be having a good time. No interesting. Do you like a haunted house movie? I love a. 00:37:24 Speaker 3: Haunted house movie? 00:37:24 Speaker 2: Not enough, frankly, it's a constant frustration for me. 00:37:29 Speaker 3: I agree, there's not enough. There are some of my favorites. 00:37:32 Speaker 2: There's so much fun to watch. They're so fun and you know, and then there's the occasional attemptance usually crap. Yeah, and uh, somebody's there's got to become a smaller industry just for the hell or the hunted house movies, because there's so many horror movies there. 00:37:47 Speaker 4: Are, and then a lot, you know, and I do think it's it is the horror movie genre ever, not having a moment, but. 00:37:55 Speaker 3: I do feel like it is really feels exponential. 00:37:59 Speaker 2: Yes, more and more every day. 00:38:01 Speaker 4: More and more and all kinds, I mean every I mean you could who knew that, like a movie about a beautiful spring festival in Sweden could. 00:38:13 Speaker 3: Be a horror movie. Anything could be hormony anything. 00:38:15 Speaker 4: But I agree that there's a real lack of specifically haunted house, right. 00:38:22 Speaker 2: I don't know why people. I guess people aren't scared of a haunted house. 00:38:26 Speaker 3: I you know what I think it is is. 00:38:27 Speaker 4: I think I think we're trying to out shock each other so much that it feels like but I have to say, it's it's that's coming around the other way where I'm sort of like. 00:38:38 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, and his head is cut off and then his hands. 00:38:42 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know why, but you kind of get desensitized actually to the extreme violence and gore. 00:38:49 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then you just shock something shock. I've seen it all. 00:38:56 Speaker 4: But you want you just want a nice mystery, a nice like who put this can of soup here? 00:39:01 Speaker 2: And you know where did that chill in the air come from? 00:39:04 Speaker 5: Yes? 00:39:05 Speaker 2: Is it something or is it me? 00:39:07 Speaker 5: Yes? 00:39:07 Speaker 2: Am I losing my mind, yes, Or is it a specter? 00:39:11 Speaker 3: Am I haunted by a specter? Or am I haunted by a memory? 00:39:14 Speaker 2: Am I the ghost? 00:39:15 Speaker 3: Are you the ghost? 00:39:17 Speaker 2: It could be any of these things. Do you have a favorite haunted house movie? 00:39:21 Speaker 4: You know? When you mentioned haunted house movies? I was like, oh, yeah, what are some of my favorite ones? I really love the Changeling. I don't know if it's that that's steric, it's so scared to this day. Oh, I highly recommend your listeners watch it if they haven't yet and they want to refuse. 00:39:38 Speaker 2: Haven't they be a recommendation yet? 00:39:39 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 00:39:40 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:39:40 Speaker 2: It's kind of the relationship between me and the listener. Sounds hate. Oh, pure hate. It's pure hate listening. I hate to say it. Well, but what are you gonna do? 00:39:51 Speaker 3: What are you going to do? Build it, help people experience it? 00:39:55 Speaker 2: You just put yourself out there exactly, and they burn it down. Changeling is good. I love the haunting, Oh I believe, Yeah, maybe the mid sixties very sick. 00:40:05 Speaker 3: That one's good. 00:40:06 Speaker 2: The others the others I love great one, the Orphanage, I would. 00:40:12 Speaker 4: And that is, yeah, that's very scary that it is really really scary. 00:40:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, those two are a little bit more recent or within the last twenty years. 00:40:20 Speaker 4: I have not seen the recent Haunted Mansion movie, but it looked really good. It looked like it incorporated a lot of things from the ride without trying to make them modern, which I like. 00:40:30 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? 00:40:31 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:40:32 Speaker 3: Did you see it? 00:40:33 Speaker 2: I didn't see it, but there were things in the trailer where I started to think, they've dropped the ball again on a haunted house movie. Here was the opportunity. 00:40:42 Speaker 3: We'll see. I'm going to check it out. I have faith. I'm exciting. 00:40:45 Speaker 2: Let me know. 00:40:46 Speaker 4: I'll let you know if it's a good house movie. What's another one? 00:40:49 Speaker 5: Uh? 00:40:51 Speaker 4: You know, I I know this isn't technically a haunted house movie, but you can't. 00:40:55 Speaker 2: Not think of clue, clue. Interesting. It's a spooky, an old spooky house. Some one's been killed. 00:41:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, love that they. 00:41:04 Speaker 2: Could have become a ghost. Yeah, they could be haunting it right now. 00:41:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's all kinds of secret passageways. 00:41:10 Speaker 2: Right. And then there's I saw a movie Crimson Peak. Did you ever see this? No, that's a haunted house movie, but it's just not scary at all. Oh really, it's kind of it's like a romance. 00:41:23 Speaker 3: Huh. 00:41:24 Speaker 2: Interesting. I dragged my boyfriend there. He said, you have to see this with me. He was bored to death, and I know I was a little bored too, but I didn't admit it. 00:41:32 Speaker 3: Well, no, because it was your idea. 00:41:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was my idea, and I just had to like the movie. I think we may have gotten in a legitimate fight on the sure. So you've got to really just double down and say you liked the movie. 00:41:42 Speaker 5: You have to. 00:41:42 Speaker 2: And but I remember it being it wasn't Haunted House. Well made Haunted House. Okay, so I like an attempt, are you too? I don't know if I want to see Jared Ledo in a haunted house. But he made it into the movie. 00:41:57 Speaker 3: He's making it into every movie. 00:41:58 Speaker 2: He makes it into a lot of movies. 00:42:00 Speaker 3: Way to go. 00:42:01 Speaker 2: I don't know how he's got a secret key. 00:42:04 Speaker 4: I've been looking for that key and I cannot find it. 00:42:09 Speaker 3: Casper, I remember seeing as a kid is fun. 00:42:13 Speaker 2: Right, that was fun. Everyone had a crush on what Casper the human versions and who was was it? Christina Ritchie? Yes, she was Casper's love. 00:42:25 Speaker 3: Interests friend love interest, love her obsessed. 00:42:28 Speaker 2: Who's the protagonist of that movie. It's kind of not Casper. 00:42:31 Speaker 3: It's more her, right, it's more her, good for her, good for her. Yes, that's right. 00:42:38 Speaker 4: Although Casper kind of is. He's sort of getting bullied by his uncles. I think they are the others, the goofy ones, the guys. Yeah, there's that one who he's kind of like, yeah, Casper. 00:42:53 Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember that. 00:42:54 Speaker 2: Did we ever find out what killed Casper? I wonder if they revealed that in the movie. That could be a giant thumb shad, Yes. 00:43:01 Speaker 3: It was he it was go ahead. 00:43:03 Speaker 5: He froze to death. 00:43:05 Speaker 2: He froze. 00:43:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna look it traumatizing to me. 00:43:12 Speaker 2: Well, when he reappears as a real boy, he doesn't look like he froze to death. He looks like he's been in a tanning bed. So I he looks the opposite, the absolute opposite. He should look like his skin should be falling off or missing, like a gray foot. 00:43:29 Speaker 3: That one gray foot. Okay, well, all right, slightly different. 00:43:34 Speaker 6: Pneumonia playing out in the snow for too long, but. 00:43:38 Speaker 2: Learn close, lesson learned. You don't play in the snow. 00:43:42 Speaker 3: Too, so it's really on him. He played in the snow. 00:43:47 Speaker 2: Science there is shaky he got the pneumonia from playing in the cold. No, no, no, he must have gone into the cold with a pneumonia. 00:43:55 Speaker 3: Yes, what did he catch it from a snowflake? 00:43:58 Speaker 2: All right, Okay, well I'm glad they revealed Yeah, I wonder how that's revealed. Does he say it's like an attempt at pity. Well, I don't want you to feel bad for me, but. 00:44:12 Speaker 3: But here's my sad story. 00:44:15 Speaker 4: I watched Casper last year and I can't remember how he revealed it. I feel like it's like from a heart to heart he has with Christina Ricci's character when he's like, I wish I. 00:44:27 Speaker 2: Was real, not dead from pneumonia. 00:44:31 Speaker 3: And not dead from Yeah. 00:44:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe she's threatening to go out in the snow. 00:44:36 Speaker 4: No, they didn't have the winter, I don't think in that movie. 00:44:40 Speaker 2: It's a summer movie. 00:44:42 Speaker 3: It's a summer blockbuster. 00:44:44 Speaker 4: It's a summer into fall because she hosts a big Halloween party. 00:44:50 Speaker 2: Oh wow, so it spans generations. Yeah yeah, kind of a years long leading up to the big Halloween bash. 00:44:57 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:44:58 Speaker 2: And then they dance, Yeah, they dance and then he continues. 00:45:03 Speaker 4: No, at midnight, he becomes a boy and they smooch, and then he died. Sorry to spoil this thirty year old movie for anybody hasn't seen it. 00:45:12 Speaker 2: I need to know. There is a smooch and what is this journey from ghosts to boy and then back to ghost It's. 00:45:17 Speaker 4: Something about on Halloween at midnight, you know, because that's when. 00:45:20 Speaker 3: The veil is the thinnish. 00:45:22 Speaker 2: Of course, Witching Hour. 00:45:23 Speaker 4: Witching Hour, there's some kind of rule where you give him a smooch, he'll be real. It's like Cinderella. Oh interesting now, because she was never not real at midnight. She's kind of revealed as a fraud, right, she's as a. 00:45:39 Speaker 2: Connart at complete conn artists get her out of the palace. 00:45:42 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this this grifter lock. 00:45:45 Speaker 2: Her up in a room. 00:45:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, they smooch and then and then I remember because I remember thinking wow, a smooch when I was like nine or ten. I'm watching it, and then and then it's revealed like as you know, she's like still in this and then Casper, who was Devin Salad, turns back into his ghost. 00:46:05 Speaker 3: But they're still smooching. Oh, and everyone's like, oh, he's a ghost, and they all scream and run out. Oh they are following this, like I explained it. 00:46:19 Speaker 2: Very clearly fascinating. So she's kind of left as kind of Yeah, she's kind of like, what a freak. Yeah, they can think of her as a little freaky. 00:46:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe a little freaky. 00:46:30 Speaker 2: That's her journeys, but also cool, very cool. How many people have kissed a boy turned ghost? 00:46:37 Speaker 3: I can count him on one hand. 00:46:39 Speaker 2: Who has pneumonia, by the way, I mean the danger? Oh yeah, danger's got to be. 00:46:43 Speaker 3: There, surely his it's not. Still, I don't know. 00:46:46 Speaker 2: Pneumonia can last a long time, long decades. I wonder how old Casper is in the movie. Did he die like that? 00:46:53 Speaker 4: Yes, he died when he was the same age as Christina reach it so like twelve or thirteen. 00:46:57 Speaker 2: But like two hundred years ago. Yes, so he's like two hundred and twelve something like that. Interesting, that's always a question. 00:47:04 Speaker 3: Still a boy still a boy? 00:47:07 Speaker 4: I mean he's still a well boy at heart. But then also his ghost is quite boy like. Oh yes, actually I would say they could have. All the ghosts are are cartoonish. That's the fun of it. Sure, but they could have incorporated a little more Devin Sala in the ghost because the ghost frankly, looks like a baby. 00:47:26 Speaker 2: Looks like an infant, looks like something with cradle. There's no nothing boy about that. 00:47:32 Speaker 3: No that that looks like a baby. That's a baby with a big head, straight up baby. 00:47:37 Speaker 4: And they could have made that ghost, especially because he's supposed to be the love interest, could have made him you know, a bit more like, you know, right handsome. 00:47:45 Speaker 2: Where you're kind of rooting for, rather than being a reveal where you're like, oh, he was hot this whole time? 00:47:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, why was he? 00:47:51 Speaker 2: This just this potato that was on board with this relationship. 00:47:54 Speaker 3: Grew a potato for most of the movie. 00:47:56 Speaker 2: She fell in love with a baby. She was probably disappointed, devastated didn't turn out to be a baby. 00:48:05 Speaker 4: I mean, this is the thing, and the lesson we could take from this is be careful of expectations. 00:48:11 Speaker 2: Don't fall in love with a baby. 00:48:12 Speaker 3: I guess that's the lesson we should take. 00:48:14 Speaker 2: They'll always break your heart. 00:48:15 Speaker 4: Don't fall in love with the baby. Always end up with a broken heart. You heard it here first. 00:48:23 Speaker 2: Wow, Well I've got to go back and revisit that movie. 00:48:25 Speaker 3: That should please and let me know what you think. 00:48:27 Speaker 2: I'm going to I need to. 00:48:29 Speaker 4: Some of the jokes don't hold up. 00:48:33 Speaker 3: Even in Casper. 00:48:33 Speaker 4: But I remember showing it to my husband and mean, like, I love this movie because but I hadn't seen it since I was a kid, and we're watching it and he could not have been less into it. And so you know, it's one of those things that's like you have a nostalgia for it because you saw it. 00:48:49 Speaker 5: When you're a kid. 00:48:50 Speaker 2: You have to do a pre screen before you show it to a partner. That's exactly what because if it's been more than five years, there's a good chance there's going to be explaining it away the whole time, and then you'll feel ashamed. 00:49:04 Speaker 3: At the end of it. 00:49:05 Speaker 2: You will feel ashamed, and maybe you should. That was my experience with Clifford. Do you know the Martin Short movie. 00:49:12 Speaker 5: Yeah, of course. 00:49:13 Speaker 2: I loved the movie adorf for who knows how many years at this point and I was like, I'll show it to Jim. He was not on board. 00:49:22 Speaker 3: We didn't want it. 00:49:23 Speaker 2: It's i mean, objectively, probably a bad movie, but Martin Short is so funny in it. That. I'm like, just look past every other element of this, please, Martin, because Charles Grodon's great Richard kind is wonderful cast. Oh yeah, incredible, great cast doing doing their best with what they're given. Well, yeah, but you show that to somebody now an adults, now they're gonna be. There's gonna be. 00:49:48 Speaker 4: They don't have this sort of because as a child you have such a spongy brain where you're like, show me anything and I'll love. 00:49:55 Speaker 2: It, and then it forms the shape of your brain and then you're able to accept later. Yes, so that's something to be aware of before showing anyone anything, Before revealing your feelings to anyone about anything. 00:50:07 Speaker 4: About anything, think about it, actually, before you even speak to someone, think about that the reason the time on yourself. 00:50:18 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, wow, Well I'm excited about Halloween. Do you have a Halloween costume planned? 00:50:23 Speaker 5: Oh? 00:50:24 Speaker 4: You know, my husband and I talked about doing the Banshees of an a Sheeran. 00:50:28 Speaker 2: Oh who would you play? 00:50:30 Speaker 3: I think be. 00:50:33 Speaker 4: Yes, we just play fingers, So we'd have to explain it at every party. 00:50:38 Speaker 2: Explaining costume. Love that feeling. 00:50:41 Speaker 3: I would be Colin Farrell's character. 00:50:43 Speaker 4: Okay, you can have the brown eyes, wonderful to do it, and I could do that sort of his expression soulful look, yes, mournful. 00:50:56 Speaker 3: And then Matt would play. 00:51:00 Speaker 2: I mean now, oh, now, we're so embarrassed because he's a great actual he's phenomenal, he's been doing it for years, years and years. His name is so good. Grumpy guy, grumpy guy irish. 00:51:12 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, that's what I meant. 00:51:17 Speaker 4: So Matt would play and then we have a dog, we have a lab pit, and she would play Jenny the donkey. 00:51:25 Speaker 2: And we won't reveal, we won't, we won't reveal. Wait, what's the dog? Your dog's actual name River River? Oh, that's very sweet. River becomes Jenny. That's a great costume, great couple of family costume. 00:51:38 Speaker 3: But we really got to be all together at all times. 00:51:41 Speaker 2: The moment you break up, exactly, forget it. 00:51:43 Speaker 3: Then I'm a lady in a sweater. 00:51:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the couple's. 00:51:51 Speaker 5: What about you? 00:51:52 Speaker 3: Do you have a costume? 00:51:52 Speaker 2: I don't have anything planned. 00:51:54 Speaker 3: They're still early days. 00:51:55 Speaker 2: This feels that I feel like last year I did nothing. It was one of those years where I wasn't in the mood. 00:51:59 Speaker 3: Sure. 00:52:00 Speaker 2: This year, well, I think I've got to wait a couple more weeks and we'll see how I feel. Yeah, it's not great when you're not in Halloween. When you're not in the mood, not a great time when you're in the mood. You've got a costume on, you're out in the weirdly warm la air. Yes, there's a feeling, there's a real feeling. 00:52:16 Speaker 4: There's a feeling. I mean, that is the that is a bummer. You know, Halloween a fall here. You don't get the the chill, you don't get the crisp, you know, sort of fall wind that comes for us, that comes in like February, right, and then you're by then Halloween's long gone. 00:52:34 Speaker 2: But I'll say this, for the weird warmth, it's unsettling. It's even more unsettling. This feels deeply unnatural. 00:52:41 Speaker 3: Oh yes, one would almost say super. 00:52:48 Speaker 2: What could I be for Halloween? I what have I been in the past? I've been and of Green Gables that was my mom showed me. 00:52:55 Speaker 3: I love that. 00:52:56 Speaker 2: That was before I came out, So that was an interesting choice. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: Love it. 00:53:01 Speaker 2: Mary Barry o greatim was Paul Hollywood so separated? He looked more like Paul Hollywood. I just looked like like someone from Clockwork Orange or something like, Oh my god, not quite what it should have been. Yeah, I need to think of a costume. Who are some famous redheads? Who are some red heads that I could just Wendy. Oh, Wendy's not bad, but then you do you know what I hate a lot of people hate this is when the fake pigtails and the if you put dots on your face as freckles, you look so stupid. Maybe it could be like modern Wendy. 00:53:40 Speaker 3: Wendy. 00:53:41 Speaker 4: Oh yes, I recently saw a picture. You know, BuzzFeed has those listicles. Sure, they're like, here are ten real life people that things are based on, and one of them was there was a picture of Wendy. 00:53:55 Speaker 2: Wendy Thomas. 00:53:56 Speaker 3: Wendy Thomas Dave's daughter. 00:54:00 Speaker 2: Adopted daughter. Probably I think he was very pro adoption. 00:54:02 Speaker 4: Yes, but she was adorable. She was you know, you could really see the her you know face. 00:54:08 Speaker 2: In the oh interesting log. 00:54:11 Speaker 4: But yes, anyway, all that's to say, I think we could bring Wendy into twenty twenty three. 00:54:17 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, A nice tailored suit. 00:54:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh I love that because she's a businesswoman though. 00:54:24 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's she's running she's. 00:54:26 Speaker 3: In charge, a little girl no more. 00:54:30 Speaker 2: I really do feel like I saw her in one of their commercials. I think she made some attempt to reveal herself, and I think public was a little like we sort of like the like the thing in the logo. We like the Colonel Sanders version, right. 00:54:45 Speaker 3: Just so just the logo is good. 00:54:47 Speaker 4: But you could do that other famous Yeah, I mean I feel like you have your pick, don't you. 00:54:52 Speaker 2: There's Oh I was Rosemary from Rosemary's Baby once. That was a great that one short pixie cut. So that was easy. Running out of these easy ones. They're like low hanging fruit of the red heads. 00:55:03 Speaker 3: And are you firmly against wigs? 00:55:06 Speaker 2: I love a wig. Okay, great, but you know I'm lazy. I would like to have I'd like to own one nice wig. I've got to find one beautiful wig that they have in an investment. Yeah, you know one? That's how much is an expensive wig? 00:55:19 Speaker 3: A lot? 00:55:20 Speaker 2: A lot when you're getting the nice ones, I think is quite a lot. Not four ninety nine at target. 00:55:25 Speaker 3: No, no, no. And they're hand hand, so you know what I mean, is not machine made. 00:55:29 Speaker 2: I could probably go in like wigs Worlds or whatever. And let them at least put them on my head and so. 00:55:35 Speaker 3: See how you feel. A friend once took me to do that when we were I was like, everything, I want a haircut? 00:55:41 Speaker 5: What should I do? 00:55:41 Speaker 4: And she was like, come with me and we went and try it on wigs, just exclusively, just to see different hairstyles. 00:55:46 Speaker 2: Brilliant. 00:55:47 Speaker 3: Isn't that interesting? It was really. 00:55:49 Speaker 2: Helpful, really good idea. Yeah, it's a good idea if you're ever because they'll have like I remember there was like software that was like put oh yes, that was about I'm sure that horrifying. Probably led to a lot of bad haircuts. 00:56:06 Speaker 4: Oh, it led to a lot of self loathing. It's like, oh my god, I guess that's my head. 00:56:13 Speaker 2: But I feel like also going into the store and trying on wigs in order to get a haircut, it's almost like stealing. Yeah, they think they're going to sell a wig. Little did they know you've downloaded the song. It's kind of a piracy situation. But it's actually I don't know why more people don't do that. 00:56:30 Speaker 3: I bet they do. 00:56:31 Speaker 2: Could I do that? 00:56:33 Speaker 3: Sure? 00:56:33 Speaker 2: It's worth a. 00:56:34 Speaker 4: Shock because also we were not when we go into a store, we're not obligated to buy things they can browse the creeps. Although I tell you, who tells you you should the Americana If you want to get validated, Oh well you better Now you better buy something. 00:56:48 Speaker 2: The cheesecake Factory is no longer just willy nilly validating. 00:56:52 Speaker 4: Gone are the days when you could just walk into Norseham and they have a little machine out and just PLoP your ticket in. 00:56:57 Speaker 3: The very recent, very recent. 00:56:59 Speaker 2: Because I used to like, after a movie, you just pop in and get the cheesecake Factory validation and get out of there. 00:57:05 Speaker 3: No big deal. No, those days are long gone. 00:57:07 Speaker 2: And even with a validation, you're now paying the place. Is ridiculous. 00:57:12 Speaker 3: It's awful. 00:57:14 Speaker 2: I think. I think this is Rick Crusoe's revenge on Los Angeles. Said you didn't vote for me, Okay, well now you're paying for your parking. I don't care. 00:57:21 Speaker 3: Gosh, and I have a real I will. 00:57:23 Speaker 4: There's so many things that I will that I will sort of just accept as this is the fee we're paying. But parking is one that I will park a mile and a half away. 00:57:33 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, if it means we're about to combine bodies, because this is exact I do not underestimate how far I will walk to save fifty cents. 00:57:44 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. The principle, it's the principle of it. It's it's actually. 00:57:48 Speaker 4: And then also there's some places when you're like you like there was a police reason I went to that had valley parking eight dollars or something, and then truly across the street three hour street parking, with tons. 00:58:01 Speaker 2: Of oh why wouldn't you take it? I will look at it. I will look. I will look. 00:58:07 Speaker 4: I will look, I will look, I will look. I'll look until I pass out. 00:58:14 Speaker 2: This is a disagreement in our house because we'll go to the to a movie and Jim will say I want to park at the Americana, and I'll say, well, then you're driving. I will not pay to park it if I'm driving. We're parking at Target across the street. 00:58:28 Speaker 3: That's it. 00:58:28 Speaker 2: We're in the free parking and walking. 00:58:30 Speaker 3: Sure you're walking a little bit, but barely not walking that much. 00:58:33 Speaker 2: And you get the treat of walking through the mall. 00:58:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, you get to pop in that mall, all kinds of stories you wouldn't store scalore think to go to. 00:58:41 Speaker 2: I feel like occasionally they have a scientologist booth. They've got a little bit of everything you could ever want. You have to pass the Jehovah's Witnesses at the crosswalk. Sure, there's a lot of churches trying to get you there. 00:58:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that. There's a lot of traffic in that area. 00:58:55 Speaker 4: There's a lot of traffic and a lot of lost souls are trying to get to the America. 00:59:00 Speaker 2: I am one of those people. There's also but I also just recently, and this is a real la local tip, there is another free galleria mall next to the American. 00:59:09 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yeah. 00:59:11 Speaker 2: When you see the in and out parking right above that. 00:59:14 Speaker 3: You know what you're talking about. I know exactly what you're talking about. 00:59:17 Speaker 2: It's true, this was probably a little harder to find a spawn. But you're not putting another you're not putting more money in Rick crusis. 00:59:24 Speaker 4: Right, pockets pad in the pockets of the big wigs in Glendale. 00:59:28 Speaker 3: That's right. 00:59:31 Speaker 2: I think we should play a game. Okay, we're gonna play gift Master. I need to number between one and ten from you six. Okay, if you do some light calculating, Okay, right now, of course, you can't really promote anything as we're on strike. Sure the actors and the writers are were demanding to be treated like human beings. Yes so, but there might be something you can promote that has nothing to do with whatever, or you can recommend something, or you can talk to the listener. You can do whatever you want. 00:59:55 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, great, Hi everyone, Wow it's just us. 01:00:00 Speaker 2: That was wild. 01:00:01 Speaker 3: Huh. Well, I'm so excited to be here with you and I to promote. Let's see. 01:00:07 Speaker 4: I mean I'm doing I'm doing some live improv shows around in about in LA. Got some shows coming up at the Dynasty Typewriter. There's a show on October fifteenth, a Sunday, at I believe seven pm, but it could be seven thirty, but I believe. 01:00:28 Speaker 3: It's called Logans. 01:00:31 Speaker 4: And the idea of it is it's a fully improvised episode of a sitcom that takes place at a bar called Logans. So it's going to be really fun. I highly recommend you get to It's a great cast. 01:00:44 Speaker 3: Check it out. Dynasty Typewriter, October fifteenth. 01:00:47 Speaker 2: Perfect beautiful. How is that perfect to have a live event to be able to promote. 01:00:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's nice. I also I should have asked when this is coming out, but I assume I. 01:00:56 Speaker 2: Feel like before what a professional Well, I only overheard a little bit of it. I was like, I hope this isn't like September third, because oh, okay, I mean, I mean, who am I to say talk on a podcast about saying things that no longer apply to the listener. That's the kind of the theme of this entire show. Great, so you've given them some relevant information they can do. What is my recommendation this week? I I just went and got a coffee and on the way home, I was listening to Debbie Friday. She has a song called so Hard to Tell. I've been listening to this for a very long time. She's wonderful. Listen to that. And now let's get into gift Master. These are the gifts you'll be giving away today, Okay. Number one is a surprising comeback, so that's kind of an experience. Number two is super speed, so the ability to move quickly, very fast. And number three this one, this one is such a clear I put this in the document clearly in probably January of twenty twenty because it's a year's supply of paper towels at the time. I thought, ha ha, how funny would it be to have a year's who needs a year's supply of take paper towels? And now everybody wants that at all times. Oh yeah, these are the people you'll be giving them to. Number one James Cameron, Number two Danny Glover, and number three Diane Warren. Songwriter Diane Warren. Diane Warren, She's written on so many unforgettable top ten hits. I can't think of one. I feel like she's she did a Celine Dion song and others. Just imagine anything from the nineties. 01:02:36 Speaker 3: I love it. 01:02:37 Speaker 2: Dane Warren was Diane's problem. It's for her fingerprints are all over. 01:02:40 Speaker 3: Wow, wait to good Dane. 01:02:43 Speaker 4: Okay, so I got super speed, I have a year's supply of paper towels, and I have a surprising comeback. 01:02:49 Speaker 3: Well, I have to say. 01:02:50 Speaker 4: I knew immediately who I wanted to give the surprising comeback to. 01:02:53 Speaker 3: Oh, and that would be Donald Glover. 01:02:55 Speaker 2: Oh you mean Danny Glover. 01:02:57 Speaker 3: Oh, Danny Glover. That's what I meant that I met Glover. Danny Glove. 01:03:03 Speaker 2: Donald Glover's flying. 01:03:04 Speaker 4: He does not need any help and and and Danny Glover doesn't need it either, frankly, but I would love to see him pop up in an Oscar contender. 01:03:15 Speaker 3: Oh you know what I mean, in sort of a did you see Oppenheimer? 01:03:20 Speaker 2: I did see Oppenheimer. 01:03:21 Speaker 3: How about that Josh Hartnett in that movie? 01:03:23 Speaker 2: Oh great? And who would have thought? 01:03:25 Speaker 4: This is what I mean is I would love to see Danny Glover or Donald Glover right Mount to come back in you know, a period drama or something. 01:03:34 Speaker 3: I think that would be really fun. 01:03:35 Speaker 2: I always I'm always happy to see Danny. 01:03:37 Speaker 3: Glover as am I. He's a tremendous actor. 01:03:39 Speaker 2: He feels like your uncle or Something' is like, Oh, he's such a He's just a nice presence in a movie. Yes, he's been doing it for such a long time. Let's give him a few more big. 01:03:48 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's do it. Let's get him that oscar. 01:03:51 Speaker 2: Because yeah, get him. Does he have an oscar? 01:03:53 Speaker 3: He should have one? 01:03:54 Speaker 2: He should. We're giving him an honorary one. As we speak. Annalie is doing some digging. I hope we haven't embarrassed him if he doesn't have one. And now he's like thinking about it exposed, you know. 01:04:04 Speaker 4: But I'm giving this gift to him. Where he's gonna have that, that's true, surprising. 01:04:07 Speaker 2: Coman, and he's back on everybody's lips. 01:04:09 Speaker 4: Oh and there's everyone's lips. There's so many wonderful actors out there who don't have an Oscar yet yet they will. 01:04:16 Speaker 6: So he doesn't have one for a role. But he was awarded in twenty twenty one the Gene Herschel's Humanitarian Award. 01:04:22 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, so that's a start. 01:04:25 Speaker 2: That's great, tin what it always makes me feel bad in a trailer when it's like Oscar winner, whoever, Oscar winner, whoever? Yeah, and then it just gets to the name with nothing. Just don't put anything. If everyone doesn't have the award, let's not talk about this, or would be. 01:04:40 Speaker 4: Like once did the all you can eat dinner at Olive Garden, Mary. 01:04:45 Speaker 2: Hall, a friend you can depend on. 01:04:48 Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, hasn't gotten a speeding ticket in five years. 01:04:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, some kind of accolade, to be honest. 01:04:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, we put something above their name. 01:05:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, Yes, I would love that, excellent, excellent gift for him. Okay, great, the super speed. Now we're talking about Diane Warren and James Cameron, you know, oh gosh, I could really see both for both. 01:05:17 Speaker 2: Oh interesting. 01:05:18 Speaker 4: However, I think because James Cameron has been spending so much time in water recently, I'm going to give him the year supply of paper towels, because I bet he is just water log water everywhere. 01:05:35 Speaker 2: You don't get that deep in the ocean without getting a little wet. 01:05:39 Speaker 3: Exactly. 01:05:40 Speaker 4: And I know a lot of the the avatar that just came out, I know there's so many more that he's already phoned. You know. I bet there were splashes around his house or anywhere, and he needs a little help mopping up. 01:05:59 Speaker 2: And that's a reason. 01:06:00 Speaker 4: Do something really good with that, and he'll he's also such an innovator, he'll do something very clever, and he'll preserve the memory of the Titanic somehow with the leftover paper towel cylinders. 01:06:15 Speaker 2: You can once the paper's gone, Yeah, you build a little structure, or use it as a pair of like a car of you know funds. 01:06:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, like. 01:06:25 Speaker 2: So many options there, you do anything. He's saving on the budget of the next film exactly. 01:06:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice. 01:06:30 Speaker 2: The paper towels this time, that's nice. Get one more alien. 01:06:34 Speaker 4: Okay, that's our twelve foot skeleton if we have ours, and then I would give super speed to Diane Warren. 01:06:45 Speaker 2: What is she going to do. 01:06:47 Speaker 4: She's gonna crank out some more hits, is what she's gonna do with that super speed? Or if she doesn't want to write music anymore, she could travel the world and not have to exert. 01:06:58 Speaker 2: Herself, leaves it all beIN Ford the Olympics. 01:07:01 Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be nice? 01:07:02 Speaker 2: Here's Diane's second chapter. 01:07:04 Speaker 4: Oh and I didn't even think about competing, but she could compete. 01:07:08 Speaker 2: You know she's got a competitive spirit. 01:07:10 Speaker 3: Well, you don't get in the music biz without it. 01:07:12 Speaker 2: That many number ones. There was a reason something was driving you when it wasn't just pure artist, right. 01:07:17 Speaker 3: It was super speed. 01:07:18 Speaker 2: It was super speed. Well beautifully played. I think that that was very thoughtful. This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called they said no emails, people write in. I said no gifts. At gmail dot com they can write in. They've got questions. People need answers to everything in their lives. I, of course, despite them all hating me, every listener hates me, I continue to try to try to win them over. Say I'm a person, I'm trying to help you here look at me. Would you help me answer a question? Yes, okay, let's get into the doc says hello Bridger and coveted guest. 01:07:53 Speaker 3: Oh, coveted. 01:07:54 Speaker 2: I'm moving to Germany in a few months from the States and would like to get a goodbye gift for my therapist. We've been together for a year and a half and she has completely changed my life and helped me through significant traumas. 01:08:06 Speaker 3: That's nicely nice. 01:08:07 Speaker 2: We won't be able to see each other when I go abroad, so I want to get her something that shows my appreciation for all the time she spent with me and the wonderful impact she has made on my life. Your relationship with your therapist is kind of unique because I don't know much about her except from the couple of tidbits she shared, which is that she likes yoga and meditation and is a bit of a nerd, kind of insulting, kind of a dig at the. 01:08:29 Speaker 3: Therapist, although the term nerd is mean reclaimed. 01:08:32 Speaker 2: That's true, but now we've almost come full circle. 01:08:34 Speaker 3: Where it's bad at it again. 01:08:35 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, So we don't know what their use of the word nerd is. I want it to be something special and thoughtful without breaking the bank. Thank you for your pod and your fantastic advice. Of course, kindly, Cami. They then, Okay, so Cami has left us with a mystery. First of all, let's just say it. The therapist is a nerd. Is it an aggressive nerd? Right? Is it a nice nerd? 01:08:56 Speaker 3: Yes? 01:08:57 Speaker 4: A gentle nerd that just has just like magic, right, just loves the magic, Star Wars or anything, but likes magic. 01:09:06 Speaker 3: Likes I mean, because nerd is is blanket like, there's a. 01:09:09 Speaker 2: Lot of things it's gone. It's gone to why We've got to narrow it back to what it was. 01:09:12 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, So. 01:09:14 Speaker 2: The therapist is a nerd, maybe a yoga in meditation. 01:09:17 Speaker 4: Right ohesting well, context clues. This therapist sounds very healthy, right, sounds like a very healthy person. 01:09:26 Speaker 2: The other, I will say, the other clue is that Cami has fired the therapist. Let's be very clear, moving out of the country. Has decided against Yes, this is U. It helps me and now I'm burning the bridge. Good luck with what your stupid business. I got what I needed out of you. 01:09:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, enjoy this uh blank We'll. 01:09:47 Speaker 2: Fill in the blank bag of or something yeah, yeah, okay. So first of all, I mean, right, had a bag of freedoms. 01:09:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that that would be enjoyed or appreciated. 01:09:58 Speaker 4: But as we always say we on our podcast, this podcast, we always say, it is the thought that counts. 01:10:06 Speaker 2: That's the at the beginning of the podcast, before we even begin recording, right, we say, it's the thought that counts. Who cares what else happens in the next hour and a half, It's the thought that counts, exactly. And then we go forward. So Cammy, if Cammy wants to give a bag of Frito's after fleeing the country, like it's like moving out is like looking at the cupboards, It's like, what am I going? I'm not moving my groceries to Germany. 01:10:27 Speaker 3: There's here's some baked beans. 01:10:29 Speaker 2: Baked beans own nice combo. 01:10:32 Speaker 3: I'm really good. I didn't even mean to do that. That sounds wonderful. 01:10:35 Speaker 2: So now we're building a gift. 01:10:36 Speaker 4: Now we're building something that's their basket. Oh what basket's nice? I do I do say, I do say. 01:10:43 Speaker 2: And this is the other this is the only other thing you you say. 01:10:48 Speaker 4: The only other thing I say is that I I really think A nice gift is one that can be consumed. 01:10:54 Speaker 2: Oh of oh, I mean you're talking to the right now. 01:10:58 Speaker 4: Whether that's a but it doesn't have to necessarily be eaten or drinken, can be burned, burned, can be. 01:11:06 Speaker 2: Fed to animals. 01:11:07 Speaker 4: Sure, some sort of functional gift I think is always nice. 01:11:12 Speaker 3: But a consumed gift is nice. 01:11:14 Speaker 2: It's a treat, right, it's not a clutter, it's not a burden, it's not an assignment exactly. Those are areas of gifts that you get very tricky when, especially if you don't know the person. 01:11:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we. 01:11:27 Speaker 2: Know that they're into yoga, but Cami doesn't know if this therapist is the therapist probably owns all yoga equipment. Yeah, so I guess it really what we I mean, end of the day. Yeah, you buy a basket, You look through your cupboards, you're moving, you've got to you've got to offload some of these things. 01:11:47 Speaker 3: Anything you don't want just put in there. 01:11:51 Speaker 2: And these are all consumables. 01:11:52 Speaker 3: Surge protector, Oh, you. 01:11:55 Speaker 2: Know, serge protector is a great gift. 01:11:59 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess you can't consume, you shouldn't consume it, But you don't consume a surge protector. 01:12:04 Speaker 2: I mean the therapist is a nerd, so they probably get electronics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if we're they're the nerd, we're assuming. 01:12:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, they probably got a hole. 01:12:12 Speaker 2: But everybody can always use a new surge protector. Yeah, you know, power outages, brownouts, we're all dealing with them at this point. An umbrella, an umbrella. Now we're preparing the therapist for a. 01:12:24 Speaker 4: Storm because they're going to be coming if climate changes times. 01:12:28 Speaker 2: Yes, we've been through. Some storms are coming and that's probably why cammis moving moving to Germany. 01:12:34 Speaker 3: Cammy, I think you're you're doing making. 01:12:37 Speaker 2: A good choice. Making a good choice, CAMMI, But I don't know, could have left, uh, I mean ditching your therapists like this is cruel. Well that's not, you know, but maybe there'll be a new therapist in Germany that helps Cammy work through these issues of you know, abandoning your sure. Sure, I don't know. 01:12:53 Speaker 4: It's quite a time difference between Germany and La too. I don't know if they're in la Oh. 01:12:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, maybe look at us assuming look we can look beyond ourselves. 01:13:03 Speaker 4: Gosh, wow, you know what, I just got to look at myself in the mirror, and I didn't like what I saw. 01:13:12 Speaker 2: Wow wow wow Wow. Well, Cammy, wherever you're moving from, you've got the exact advice that you needed. 01:13:19 Speaker 3: I think we gave great advice. 01:13:20 Speaker 2: Perfect advice. You're welcome, Cammi. The therapist is welcome. 01:13:24 Speaker 3: Oh, the therapist is very welcome. 01:13:25 Speaker 2: And that's all we can do today. That's all we can do. 01:13:28 Speaker 3: That's all. Our hands are tied. That's it, this is it. We've reached. 01:13:33 Speaker 2: That's it, are tied. We've done heavy lifting. And God bless us, the two of us also on Alyse, God bless you. 01:13:42 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:13:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Oh Mary, I have a functional gift. 01:13:48 Speaker 3: This is it. This is what I'm talking. 01:13:49 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be using this every morning. 01:13:50 Speaker 4: I can't wait. Please send me pictures, pictures of pumpkin ice cube. 01:13:54 Speaker 2: There will be pumpkin ice cubes galore. 01:13:56 Speaker 4: I'm slightly worried that they're not going to turn out, but we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. 01:14:01 Speaker 2: You know, when you buy all fun like holiday item, there's always the chances always assume you're not actually going to use it. They're just like, well, they'll think that's cute. In the grocery store. 01:14:10 Speaker 4: This is for a podcast. 01:14:12 Speaker 3: For a podcast. 01:14:13 Speaker 2: This is something you throw in the shopping basket. Then later you're like, I don't know if I actually gonna and then they've made their money. Yeah, and you have a thing in your home, but I'm going to use this, okay. And it will be an ice cube regardless whether it's a pumpkin or not. 01:14:25 Speaker 3: That's that's true. It might just be a circle with ridges and. 01:14:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of a weird little Yeah, we won't quite know what it looks like. 01:14:33 Speaker 3: We won't, but I please let me know and send me pictures. Well, absolutely sure, I mean that looks cute. 01:14:41 Speaker 2: It's very cute if that works out for me. My life has changed, saying things are finally working out and I. 01:14:46 Speaker 3: Will be asking for this back. 01:14:51 Speaker 2: Oh thank you for being here. This is me. 01:14:54 Speaker 3: It was so fun. 01:14:55 Speaker 2: Listener, Oh boy, listener, the podcast is over. If you knew it was coming, you've been training, you know, you've been listening to episodes and learning how it ends. And I'm so proud of you. You hate me, you hate me, and you're so glad the episode's over. But you're mad that the episode's over. You're freaking out. I need you to just take whatever this emotional thing is you're going through and deal with it. Off pod. We'll see you again soon. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nilson, and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:15:55 Speaker 5: Line? 01:15:55 Speaker 1: Man, did you hear? Fun made myself perfectly clear, But you're I guess to my home? You gotta come to me empty? And I said, no, guess, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me