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Speaker 1: because he has the exclusive on this. And this is

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Speaker 1: really shocking, even by George Gascone standards. By after you

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Speaker 1: with more details. But LAPD has arrested a man for well,

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Speaker 1: he was arrested last week for killing his neighbor. His

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Speaker 1: He really has a past. He almost stabbed a construction

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Speaker 1: The Probation office had said Sutherland was violent and a

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Speaker 2: So now it's gotten to the point.

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Speaker 1: Where if a black man stabs someone almost to death,

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Speaker 1: And it's it's everybody's fault. It's everybody's fault who voted

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Speaker 1: Uh. There was a woman named Jennifer Gomez shot multiple times,

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Speaker 1: There's there's a big story in the El Segunda Times

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Speaker 1: And ignores that ninety eight percent of the homeless are

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Speaker 1: And they got seventy eight people to go indoors, but

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Speaker 1: and she acknowledged that the rules at the La Grand Hotel,

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Speaker 1: Leon's office reported that eighty four households had moved indoors.

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Speaker 1: That's what David Sandeiser and the La Times calls those encampments.

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Speaker 1: They talked to one vagrant who's in a wheelchair. He's

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Speaker 1: Coming up after two o'clock, we're going to talk with

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Speaker 1: the Built Allusion, who really is one of the best

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Speaker 1: reporters out there in the whole country. We works for

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Speaker 1: Fox News. He's done an incredible work at the border.

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Speaker 1: He's also based out of la Some of his stories

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Speaker 1: appear on Fox eleven. And this is a doozy and

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Speaker 1: this I don't know what. I don't know what it

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Speaker 1: would take to get George Gascon and forced out of office.

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Speaker 1: You hear this story coming up, I'll give you just

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Speaker 1: a brief rundown and then and then Bill's gonna give

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Speaker 1: all the details. LPD arrested Stephen Sutherland a few days ago.

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Speaker 1: He is accused of killing his upstairs neighbor, Jennifer Gomez,

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Speaker 1: shot multiple times. Stephan Sutherland already murdered somebody in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: not long ago, tried to stab a construction worker to death.

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Speaker 2: The Probation Apartment said he ought to go to prison.

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Speaker 1: Gascon's office overruled it and sent him to mental health diversion. Well,

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Speaker 1: mental health diversion didn't work. Sutherland, according police, shot his neighbor,

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Gomez. She was upset with the noise that Sutherland

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Speaker 1: was making. And now he's being held on a two

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Speaker 1: million dollar bond and he charged with murder. So guess

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Speaker 1: going caused the death. He caused the death of poor

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Gomez. I mean, he was guilty of the attempted murder.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't question about this.

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Speaker 2: This is where we're all living.

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Speaker 1: We're living in a county with a madman, an absolute

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Speaker 1: mad man as a da.

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Speaker 2: Remember last week who told you there's.

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Speaker 1: Ten thousand cases that he has not prosecuted. Ten thousand cases.

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Speaker 1: That's ten thousand people who should be tried and sentenced

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Speaker 1: to something, and instead they're free. We'll get to that

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Speaker 1: coming up. There's also insanity in Chicago as well. Now

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Speaker 1: this story is as of nine o'clock this morning, fifty

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Speaker 1: three people shot in Chicago over the Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 1: Fifty three eleven killed. The shooting victims ranged an age

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Speaker 1: from two years old to seventy seven years old.

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Speaker 2: And the mayor went to.

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Speaker 1: Went to a card game where people in a neighborhood

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Speaker 1: were gathering to try to stop the violence.

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Speaker 2: They tried to stop the violence. I'm not making this up.

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Speaker 1: They gathered and played cards, and that's where the mayor

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Speaker 1: was at. And now I see on television just a

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Speaker 1: few minutes ago he wants a peace march.

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 1: What is wrong with everybody? You can't have a peace march.

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Speaker 1: You can't have a card game. You have to because

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Speaker 1: they have in Cook County, which is where Chicago is

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Speaker 1: the same kind of wacky Gascon style prosecutor. The woman's

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Speaker 1: name is Kim Fox and she's as nuts as Gascon is.

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Speaker 1: A two year old girl was hitting the hand in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: She found a gun and shot herself. Two year old

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Speaker 1: boy was shot. Was playing in a bedroom with an adult.

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Speaker 1: A gun went off. Doesn't say how. Last week the

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Speaker 1: mayor and his name's Brandon Johnson, well, he went to

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Speaker 1: the card game. He said he was going to take

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Speaker 1: a holistic approach to public safety, give money to community

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Speaker 1: support groups. What the hell poverty and go away over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. It's not about it, not poverty. It's finling

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Speaker 1: criminals running amok because they're not put in prison, so

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Speaker 1: they run around with guns and they go crazy and

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Speaker 1: they take drugs and they shoot each other. There was

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Speaker 1: even a murder near his home. Guy stabbed to death

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Speaker 1: and left in a nearby alley. And I used to

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Speaker 1: live in Chicago a long time ago, and I was

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Speaker 1: looking at all the addresses and it's the same neighborhoods.

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Speaker 1: It's always the same neighborhoods. And there were bad neighborhoods

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Speaker 1: when I lived there a long time ago, and it's

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Speaker 1: the same bad neighborhoods, but a card game that's a

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Speaker 1: new one. He is even worse than the wacky Lori Lightfoot.

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Speaker 1: There have been more really bad mayors in the big cities.

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Speaker 1: I mean her and Garcetti and London Breed and now

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Speaker 1: Karen Bass here they are. These are all wacko progressives

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Speaker 1: who absolutely refuse to put any criminals away. And so

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Speaker 1: the criminals just go on and keep gilling and keep shooting,

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Speaker 1: and the homeless keep stumbling around, and the public keep

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Speaker 1: you keep people keep voting for these lunatics and then

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Speaker 1: complain about how terrible the city is and they want

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Speaker 1: to move out.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I human nature is just baffling right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we come back to Deborah's news Bill Malu Jannon

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Speaker 1: from Fox News Fox eleven, and boy, who was any

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Speaker 1: other time in American history a guy like George Gascone

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Speaker 1: would be run out.

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Speaker 2: On a rail.

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Speaker 1: There was a there was a man named Stephen Sutherland

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Speaker 1: who who tried stabbing a construction worker to death. It

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Speaker 1: was attempted murder, but he was sentenced to mental health diversion.

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Speaker 1: The Probation Office said he ought to go to prison. Instead,

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Speaker 1: Gascone sent him to mental health diversion, which he failed

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Speaker 1: because he shot Jennifer Gomez, his upstairs neighbor, multiple times

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Speaker 1: to death in her own apartment. That's coming up next,

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