1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia mea podcast. 2 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time. 3 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: That's seven pm Hungry time for those listeners in Hungary 4 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: on Thursday, March sixth and we're live from Meet Eater 5 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Randall Williams, joined 6 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: today by Maggie Hudlow and Brody Henderson. On today's show, 7 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: we're kicking off a new segment called fake News. We'll 8 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: call in with Rebecca Powell from the Bob Marshall Wilderness Foundation. 9 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna take you backstage for a look at Meat 10 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: Eater's new culinary show, Meet Eater ROAs. We'll chat with 11 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Caitlin Lo Spinoso aka Old Trapper Kate, and we'll round 12 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 2: out the show with another long awaited Meat Eater movie Club. 13 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: Maggie and Brody, how are you guys doing? 14 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: Doing great? Not so bad? 15 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: Lovely? 16 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: How are you doing, Randall? 17 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I'm doing well. It's great to have 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: you here at Bozeman HQ. 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 4: It's good to be here. 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: Well. First up, in a new segment we're calling fake News. 21 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to share a selectively edited hunting or fishing 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: related headline from the news, and Brody and Maggie need 23 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: to fill in the blank with multiple choice options. Only 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: one of these is true according to this news article. 25 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: And here's where we'll add Phil's drop in later. Phil's 26 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: just had. 27 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: A really busy week. 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: Kind of apologies to the listeners out there, Phil, what 29 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: do you have to say. 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: I don't need to disappoint anybody. It's been a crazy 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: week here at Meat Eater HQ. We got a lot 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: of new projects happening, and so I didn't have time 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: to make a drop this week. I do have an idea, 34 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: but then we thought we'd bring Chili in and then 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: he whimped out, Chili, if you're watching, good job. So 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: now we have nothing for you. And frankly, it's all 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 3: Chili's fault. 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, Chilli's working on me roast right now. Phil. 39 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: Well, the thing is is he he had agreed to 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: do this, but then he said he couldn't figure out 41 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: the chords, the chord progression, so he did WI. Yeah. 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, So just imagine something. If you guys want to 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: make some pitches in the live chat, I will read them, 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: not necessarily take them into consideration, but if you have 45 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: a really good one, you might break through the ceiling. 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: And I know it sounds like we're just killing time here, 47 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: but I really think that with the announcement, with the 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: announcement of the new segment, folks were keyed up, they 49 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: were ready to go. So just imagine in your head 50 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: what this would sound. 51 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 5: The live viewer counting that Phil's drops are the best 52 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 5: part of the whole damn show. 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I already feel like this show's 54 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: a flop. On first head line, Phil. 55 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: Sure thing, I'm using the slideshow for the very first time. 56 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: They are a So this is our first headline. Rocky 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: Mountain National Park has too many A trails, Rocky Mountain 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: National Park has too many b elk Rocky Mountain National 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: Park has too many C visitors, or Rocky Mountain National 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: Park has too many D moose. 61 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 5: So we're looking for the one that's that's fake, where. 62 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: You're looking for the one that's true, for true, the 63 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: actual headline. 64 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna say b elk. 65 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: Mag says b Elk. 66 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 5: God, I think I just read an article about something else, 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 5: Like I know they've had too many elk at one time, 68 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 5: but I think the headline might be moose. 69 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: That was my other thoughts. 70 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: Moose is your final answer? Brody gets it? 71 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 6: Phil? 72 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: Do we have like a ding ding ding? 73 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: If I were a professional engineer, I would have one prepared. 74 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 5: But oh gosh. Well, although I could find you a 75 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 5: headline that says they have too many elk, I could. 76 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: Find you a headline that says they have too many 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: visitors as well. This one comes from our friends at 78 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Outdoor Life. While moose populations are down across much of 79 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: their range in North America, Colorado is a noteworthy exception. 80 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: In Rocky Mountain National Park, wildlife managers are concerned that 81 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: a moose population growing at five percent year over year 82 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: is having a deleterious effect on wetland habitats and willow growth. 83 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: A single moose can consume up to forty five pounds 84 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: of willows in a day. In some areas of the 85 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: park have seen a decline of up to eighty percent 86 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: of their willows since nineteen ninety nine. 87 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 5: The wolves will take care of that problem for too long, 88 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 5: Just give it a little time. 89 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: I almost added wolves in there as an option, but 90 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: I thought it might be two on the nose and 91 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: perhaps you know, traumatizing or triggering to some of our audience. 92 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: Onto our second headline, here, philm can wildlife heal? Blank? 93 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: The science behind nature's unexpected remedy? The first answer is 94 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: a chronic pain. The second is PTSD post traumatic stress 95 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: disorder c IS autoimmune disorder d IS hypertension. What are 96 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: we think of here? 97 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 7: Gang? 98 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: What can nature heal? According to this article? 99 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 5: Go ahead, Maggie, you pick yours? 100 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: Ha I'm I'm gonna go B again PTSD. 101 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go see hmmm, well it's one to one Gang. 102 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: The correct answer is b PTSD. Thank you, Corey. Is 103 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: this show's really taken off? This one comes from sie 104 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: Tech Daily. Researchers from the University of Massachusetts studied nineteen 105 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: veterans with PTSD and observed notable psychological benefit. It's particularly 106 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: reduced levels of anxiety among those who engaged in visits 107 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: to wildlife sanctuaries, participated in wildlife care at rehabilitation centers, 108 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: and engaged in bird watching, according to doctor Donna Perry. 109 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: While many studies involving interactions between humans and other species 110 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: aimed at improving psychological or physical health have involved domestic animals. 111 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: Few studies have focused on wildlife. 112 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 5: I think that's great news, but I don't think it's 113 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 5: new news. People have been doing, you know, like when 114 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 5: I was a guide, we used to do h like 115 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 5: wounded warrior things. Yeah, in the outdoors. 116 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: And the news is that we have the study to 117 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: back it up. Phil Once you read me the date 118 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: on that article. 119 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: It says March sixth, twenty five, Holy crap. 120 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: That's today's news. Brody. 121 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, like I said, don't think it's new news, boy. 122 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: Rocky, start here onto our third headline. I kind of 123 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: like this bit though. 124 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: It's fun, and I would this is kind of a 125 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: dry run. If people like it, we'll be back with 126 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: bells and whistles and hopefully Brody will be more excited. 127 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 8: Yeah. 128 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 5: Well, it's not that I'm not excited. Like, I like 129 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 5: it because I like arguing and you know, and trivia 130 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 5: Spencer just doesn't put up with arguing about his questions. 131 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: So you know, I know the answer to this one. 132 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, this one's been all over the. 133 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: Place, but I thought my answers are so clever. 134 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: Well, let's let's read the headline for the audio listeners. 135 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: Here blank for dinner California officials urge residents to eat 136 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: invasive blank Your options are skate for dinner. California officials 137 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: urge residents to eat invasive sting rays frog legs for dinner. 138 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: California officials urge residents to eat invasive bullfrogs, rodent for dinner. 139 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: California officials urge residents to eat invasive nutria or d 140 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: cactus for dinner. California officials urge residents to eat invasive 141 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: African prickly pair. 142 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: It's z nutria. 143 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: Well, we've got a tie game, gang. 144 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: There's a sound. I found one. 145 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: The correct is rodent for dinner. California officials urge residents 146 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: to eat invasive nutria. According to an article in the Guardian, 147 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: This call to action came during National Invasive Species Awareness 148 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: Week in late February. Neutrio were believed to have been 149 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: eradicated from the Golden State in the nineteen seventies, but 150 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: a growing population was detected in the Sacramento San Joaquin 151 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: River Delta in twenty seventeen. The California Department of Fish 152 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: and Wildlife has removed some five thy five hundred nutria 153 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: from these wetlands so far, and federal officials are trying 154 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: to make the consumption of nutrias somewhat enticing by drawing 155 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: similarities to the taste of rabbit or dark turkey meat. Resources, 156 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: including recipes for nutrient dishes such as stews and chili, 157 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: are available on nutria dot com. 158 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, the New York Times really didn't do a good 159 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: job of selling it. Their headline. Their headline was keep 160 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: invasive species in check. Eat a big rat like rodent. 161 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 5: I think. I think the funny thing about this is 162 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 5: that this is coming out of California, which is like 163 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 5: one of the most anti hunting states in the country, 164 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 5: and they're like, oh, yeah, go kill these things. 165 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: That's a lot of dead things. 166 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 5: I know. But they need to call uh, they need 167 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 5: to call our old friend Mark Kendrick, who uh see 168 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 5: the chessbeak. Hemanaged Operation Rolling Thunder in the Chesapeake Bay, 169 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 5: which is like the only place they fully eradicated those things. 170 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta say, I wasn't California nutrier. We're not 171 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: on my radar. 172 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, they scattered those things all over the 173 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 5: place to create, you know, a fur industry back in 174 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 5: the day, I believe. 175 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will point out that there is an invasive 176 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: African prickly pair cactus called the Devil's cactus. 177 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 5: Sounds nice. 178 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a little bit of research. Uh no, 179 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: I don't think so. We don't have a tie breaker yet. 180 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: That's a little wrinkle we should add next time we 181 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: do this. 182 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: So let's hold on. Let I just want to make 183 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: sure we have this all correct. There was no drop, yes, 184 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 3: no sound effects. I'll take credit for that. Yes, no tiebreaker. 185 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: How do we feel this segment went? 186 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: You know, I like it. I think I like potential. 187 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: I think it's got real potential. Brody observed to me 188 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: yesterday when we're sort of going over this that this 189 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 2: would be a segment best played with some of our 190 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: less uh less news following crew members. Yes, sure, the 191 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: online Yeah, the less online people would probably have more 192 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: fun with this one. But I was pleased that you 193 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: both didn't get all of them right. 194 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, So earn something new every day. 195 00:10:54,240 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: Man, that's a start. Fantastic gang, Thank you. Joining us 196 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: on the line first is Rebecca Powell, the program director 197 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: for the Bob Marshall Wilderness Foundation. Rebecca, welcome to the show. 198 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for having me. Happy to be here. Great show. 199 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, yeah, it can only go on from here. 200 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: So I love honesty, Rebecca. 201 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're glad that said that first segment didn't 202 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: kill Huh. It's tough act to follow. First thing, can 203 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: you tell us a little bit about the Bob Marshall 204 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: Wilderness Foundation and maybe for folks that are not from 205 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: this part of the world, what the Bob Marshall Wilderness is. 206 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 9: Yeah. 207 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 7: So I am the program director at the bon Marshall 208 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 7: Wilderness Foundation. We're a nonprofit partner of the Forest Service 209 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 7: and we help steward the one point six million acre 210 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 7: Bob Marshall Wilderness Complex. 211 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 6: So the Bob Marsha Wilderness Complex. 212 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 7: Is a northwest Montana kind of below Glacier National Park, 213 00:11:55,080 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 7: above Yellowstone and Missoula area, and it makes three wilderness areas. 214 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 7: So there's the Great Bear to the north, the Bob 215 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 7: Marshall in the middle, and the Scapegoat Wilderness on the 216 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 7: south end, and together that makes up the one point 217 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 7: six Bob Marshall Wilderness Complex that we all just refer 218 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 7: to as the Bob. So that is a little bit 219 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 7: about the Bob Marshall Wilderness and us as a nonprofit organization, 220 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 7: we're pretty small. We have seven full time, year round staff. 221 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 7: We've been around for almost thirty years, and you know, 222 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 7: the Bob Foundation started as a place for volunteers to 223 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 7: get together and help clear those secondary trails and do 224 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 7: some of the trail maintenance that wasn't getting done as 225 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 7: Foreign Service was facing those budget cuts. 226 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 6: As we've evolved, you know, we've gone. 227 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 7: From more than just moving dirt and now as an organization, 228 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 7: we do a lot of education about wilderness. We do 229 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 7: have a pretty robust internship program. We have some traditional 230 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 7: skills programs such as packing. 231 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,479 Speaker 6: We have Artists Wilderness. 232 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 7: Connection program where we partner with the Hockaday Museum of 233 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 7: Art in the Flathead National Forest and place a few 234 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 7: artists in the back country each season to do some art. 235 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 7: And then, of course the Bread and Butter is our 236 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 7: volunteer program, so we have about forty projects usually each 237 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 7: season that we take volunteers out. 238 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 6: We have anything from you. 239 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 7: Know, a day like National Trails Day doing a day 240 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 7: of trail work, to ten day trips where you're in 241 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 7: the back country for ten days. 242 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 6: All of them are led by one of our crew leaders. 243 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 7: We provide food and pack support, all the tools, and 244 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 7: those opportunities are free for anybody who wants to join, 245 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 7: given that it's within your physical limitations to do it. Yeah, 246 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 7: And a lot of our work with the volunteers is 247 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 7: clearing trails, is brushing, you know that all they're off 248 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 7: the trails, clearing drains and improving tread. We do some 249 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 7: work on some of those admin cabins of the back country, 250 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 7: you know, rebuilding corrals, that kind of stuff. 251 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: And there's some there's some unique challenges to that type 252 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: of work in a wilderness area. Can you tell us 253 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: a little bit about what a what a day of 254 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: trail maintenance looks like for a volunteer crew. 255 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 256 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 7: So I always tell our crew leaders that they have 257 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 7: the hardest job within the complex because they're training new 258 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 7: volunteers each each week, you know, so depending on their 259 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 7: hitch schedule, volunteer show up at a trailhead. We have 260 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 7: up to eight to ten volunteers each project that meet 261 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 7: a crew leader at the trailhead. We have volunteer packers 262 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 7: that use horses and mules that carry in all the 263 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 7: food and tool and group gear into a backcountry site 264 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 7: and we set up a base camp and work on 265 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 7: that base camp for however many days the trip is 266 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 7: and because it's a designation wilderness, you know, no mechanized 267 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 7: use within the wilderness. So we're using cross cut saws, handsaws, 268 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 7: pulaskis looppers, that kind of stuff. And all the stuff 269 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 7: that we get is transported into the back country with 270 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 7: horses and mules. So it's primitive. Uh, it's uh, just how. 271 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 6: We like it. 272 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: A lot of sweat. 273 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,239 Speaker 6: It is a lot of sut and you know, volers 274 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 6: are they're they're into it. 275 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: Man. 276 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 7: People like to work hard and it's impressive to see 277 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 7: the amount of people that come out and want to 278 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 7: do hard work with us. 279 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: That's great. Recently, we've been covering a lot of the uh, 280 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: the layoffs affecting our public land management agencies, the Forest 281 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: Service included. Can you can you speak to how those 282 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: cuts at the Forest Service are affecting your organization sort 283 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: of how you interface with the Forest Service. 284 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a lot of ways that that's affecting our organization. 285 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 7: We are, like you know, we pride ourselves on the 286 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 7: relationship that we have at the Forest Service, the folks 287 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 7: at the district level within those others five districts that 288 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 7: manage the Bam Martial Wilderness Complex, and we are. 289 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 6: Are close with all of them. 290 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 7: So each season around January or so, we meet with 291 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 7: those trails and wilderness folks and ask them like, hey, 292 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 7: where do you guys need help? 293 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 6: How can we help you get some volunteers in? 294 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 7: And that's how we build our summer schedule and work 295 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 7: through that, and then. 296 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 6: Once the field season starts. 297 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 7: You know, those folks that are on the ground for 298 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 7: the Forest Service, those river rangers, those trail crews, those 299 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 7: backcountry rangers, those are the people that we're communicating with 300 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 7: on our trips. We're checking in on the radio every 301 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 7: day with those folks where they're flagging out the work 302 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 7: we need to do. Maybe they're out there a couple 303 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 7: of days before that we show up and they're flagging 304 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 7: out where to put a drain, you know, or to 305 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 7: clean up a campsite. 306 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 6: Or that kind of stuff. 307 00:16:55,080 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 7: And the complex has experienced significant workforce cuts over the 308 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 7: over the last few weeks. 309 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 6: Uh. 310 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 7: You know, Rocky Mountain Ranger District had a back country 311 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 7: crew of eleven and now they're down to three. Spotted 312 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 7: Bear is similar. They had a back country crew of 313 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 7: twenty something and now they're down to four or five people. 314 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 7: So that's going to create significant barriers for the public 315 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 7: and for us to be able to achieve the level 316 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 7: of work that we hope to do. 317 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 6: You know, as an example, we work with the Forest Service. 318 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 7: We have our seasonal workforce that we ramp up to 319 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 7: is about twenty six folks. That's crew leaders, that's interns, 320 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 7: that's packer apprentices. 321 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 6: Usually we hire. 322 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 7: To two wilderness river rangers to go out with the 323 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 7: with the river ranger out of Spotted Bear, and that 324 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 7: that position no longer is there, and so we can't 325 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 7: have those two. 326 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 6: Interns go out on their own without it the supervisions. 327 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 7: So we're we're readjusting, we're getting creative. We're trying to 328 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 7: think of ways that we can still be effective and 329 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 7: help out and be of service to to what's left 330 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 7: out there. 331 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: Gotcha. Do you have sort of concrete plans looking forward 332 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: to the summer or are there still a lot of 333 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: uncertainties at the moment. 334 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean there's never any concrete plans right for 335 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 7: Plan A, Plan B, Plan Plan D. You know, we're 336 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 7: always adapting for weather and whatever, injuries. 337 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 6: Illness, anything. 338 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 7: This is definitely a big hitch in our in our 339 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 7: program because of i mean shortages aside, workforce cuts aside. 340 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 7: Our program budget was cut fifty percent because of. 341 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 6: A lot of fun thing that we get is frozen currently. 342 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 7: So the funding from you know, the Great American Outdoors 343 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 7: Act that helps fund our interns and our trail crews 344 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 7: and that kind of stuff. Some of the grants that 345 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 7: actually fund paying for the food for our volunteers, those 346 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 7: are all currently frozen. 347 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 5: And heya, Rebecca, that's money that was already approved to 348 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 5: go to you guys, correct, correct. 349 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 6: That's money that's approved to us. 350 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 7: That's like, for instance, the the America the Beautiful Grant 351 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 7: that we get that that funds our invasives crew. So 352 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 7: we have an invasive Species coordinator that works for us, 353 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 7: and he has four interns and a crew leader that 354 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 7: go around the complex and uh spray and map invasive 355 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 7: weeds all summer long. That's funded from the America the 356 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 7: Beautiful Grant, which we're in year three of a five 357 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 7: year grant of that, and that has been has been frozen. 358 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 7: So this is the time of year that we're hiring 359 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 7: all of our interns and placing all those folks, and 360 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 7: we kind of put a temporary pause on that because 361 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 7: we don't want to hire all these folks and then 362 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 7: be like, hey, guess what, we don't have the funding, 363 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 7: so you can't go. 364 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 6: Out there and do the work. 365 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 7: So we have decided to just keep moving on as 366 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 7: if we have that funding in place, and then we've 367 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 7: made a deadline that if we don't have you know, 368 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 7: confirmation and that funding at a certain time, we'll call 369 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 7: it off and read re. 370 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 6: Group our summer schedule. 371 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 7: I mean, there's like I said, there's seven of us 372 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 7: year round staff, and like five of us are are. 373 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 6: Ready to roll up our sleeves and get in the 374 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 6: back country. 375 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 7: You know, it's folks that still spend quite a bit 376 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 7: of time doing work in the back country. So we 377 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 7: can still do some volunteer trips, we can still do 378 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 7: some packing, we can do some other things. It'll just 379 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 7: be quite abbreviated from what we had hopes and planned. 380 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: So, folks, if folks are in just didn't supporting your work, 381 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: how do they either go about volunteering and getting getting 382 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 2: out there with you guys this summer, or if they 383 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: maybe live remote or can't do trail work themselves house, 384 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: can they support your mission? 385 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, we do a lot of fundraisers right now. 386 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 7: We have We partner with the Telly Ride Mountain Film 387 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 7: Festival and do like a fundraiser and kind of circumnavigate 388 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 7: the Bob Marshall Wilderness Complex. 389 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 6: On Friday tomorrow, we have a show in Big FOURK. 390 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 7: We have a show in Showdow, Montana, in Helena and 391 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 7: Missoula and Whitefish, So anybody can go and buy tickets 392 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 7: to come see us at those events, and we have. 393 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 6: Raffles and fun stuff and a lot of great films 394 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 6: on that. 395 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 7: We also have like business partners, So if you're a 396 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 7: business owner and you want to be part of the 397 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 7: of the Bob Marshall Wilderness Complex and supporting that, you 398 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 7: can join our business become a business partner. 399 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 6: A big fundraiser for us actually is our license plates. 400 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 6: So we have like the Bob license plates. 401 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 7: It's when you go to the DMV. It's the one 402 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 7: with like a pack string on it. Get those on 403 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 7: your car. That's super supportive of us. We have monthly donations, 404 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 7: all kinds of different donations, you know, Like I said, 405 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 7: really only twenty percent of our funding comes directly from 406 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 7: a forest service. The rest is all donations and fundraisers 407 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 7: and merchandise sales. 408 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 6: And all that stuff, So good deal in that any 409 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 6: of that support, it was great. 410 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: And as far as the volunteer side of things, if 411 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: you know, if I get in the weight room or 412 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: get in shape and I'm ready to grab a hold 413 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: of crosscutsaw, what's my next step there? 414 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, So traditionally we've launched our volunteer projects by March first. 415 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 7: That's on pause for right now, so we get confirmation 416 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 7: that we have the funding to go ahead with that 417 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 7: and hire our crew leaders and you know, buy volunteer 418 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 7: food and all that stuff, and pay for the pack 419 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 7: support that joins us out there. Our trips are all 420 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 7: posted online on our website, on our social. 421 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 6: Media will promote that once we launch those, some of 422 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 6: our trips fill up really fast, some of them don't. 423 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 7: We like to have a large variety of trips, so 424 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 7: we'll have, like I said, some like just one day 425 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 7: trips that are like lopping or pulling weeds or something, 426 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 7: and then we have like I think that our most 427 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 7: popular trip is like a five day trip. So you 428 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 7: hike in, you work for two days, you have a 429 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 7: day off, you work for two more days or one 430 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 7: more day, and then you hike out. And those you know, 431 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 7: there's there's different variations of the fitness levels you need 432 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 7: for that, and we. 433 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 6: Advertise that on our website. 434 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 7: Some of them, you know, you're hiking fourteen miles into 435 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 7: the back huntry over a mountain pass, and that's more strenuous, 436 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 7: and the work you're doing is like clearing a trail 437 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 7: that's you know, had a significant blowdown and you're on. 438 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 6: A cross put all day. 439 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 7: Some of the trips that are even longer, are you 440 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 7: hike six miles into a backcountry site and you work 441 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 7: on campsite restoration and you know, getting rid of fire 442 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 7: rings and barry and poop and all that kind of stuff. 443 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 6: That that's a little less strenuous. So we have. 444 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: Everyone what you're selling excellent. 445 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 5: Yep. 446 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: Well, Rebecca, we I can I think I can speak 447 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: for everyone in the building that we love the Bob 448 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: Marshall Wilderness as we love all of our public lands. Uh, 449 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: and so we appreciate the work that you do and 450 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: hopefully we can maybe get a couple of us out 451 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 2: on a crew with you this summer the next. 452 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, that sounds great. 453 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 7: We have partner trips too, so if you want to 454 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 7: just grab your friends and come join us. The whole 455 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 7: Meat Eater crew can come out and you can't tell 456 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 7: it because we're in wilderness. 457 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: So I like that idea very much. 458 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, you can take some pictures. 459 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 9: Yeah. 460 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 6: I appreciate you guys taking the time to hear from 461 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 6: us and. 462 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 7: Kind of shed some light onto the work that we're 463 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 7: doing and our and our passion for the public land 464 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 7: and the place. 465 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 6: And thanks for having us. 466 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, happy to do it, and good luck. We appreciate you. 467 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 6: Thanks. 468 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 5: Thanks. 469 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: Now, here's a transition we didn't rework after a little 470 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 2: edit to our script. 471 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: Hold hold on here, I'll help you out. And I 472 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 3: guess that's why they called it fake news. There's an 473 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: Elton John throwing something about like the pe tape or 474 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: pizza Gate, and then you know, you got yourself a 475 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 3: drop right there. 476 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 5: Oh that's good, Phil. 477 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 3: That's how the magic happens right here in this chair. 478 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 3: And you guys got to witness it live. 479 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: That's great. That's that's a uh. That's an example of 480 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: someone adapting and and and you know, making it work 481 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 2: in the show. But I'm going to read a transition 482 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: that has not been reworked. Speaking of our new show, 483 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: Meat Eater, ros Corey, why don't you walk down the 484 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: hallway to the kitchen and see what's cooking. Oh great idea, Randall, 485 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: are making me hungry with all that chatter about Meat 486 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: Eater Roast walking down the hall. 487 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: And I just want to I don't want to under 488 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 3: under state how how this is like a first time experience. 489 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: People are getting to see the behind the scenes Meat 490 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: Eater headquarters right now. 491 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, who's that Yanni juggling. 492 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 9: Johnny? What's cooking? Well, I'm just tenderizing these avocados. 493 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: In case they have to use these for a for 494 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: a part of their meal today. 495 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 9: Uh what do you? May just explain what Media Roast 496 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 9: is doing here. 497 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: It's Meat Eater's new competition cooking show where we have 498 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: two ordinary wild game cooks, which up to this point 499 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: have all been meet your employees, and not just the 500 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: ones that you expect to be good wild game cooks. 501 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: You've got folks like carin in here, Maggie. How well 502 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: maybe you would expect it. 503 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, take that cool? 504 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 4: All right? Annie? 505 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 9: You know what I mean? 506 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: What do you mean you have the challenge or the 507 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: mystery that makes their competition. Well, we have two people, 508 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: which makes the competition. But every episode there's a protein 509 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: or a chunk of meat that is unknown to the 510 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: contestants until the moment that I reveal it, and uh 511 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: like right here in this uh cast iron, mini Dutch 512 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: of and whatever they call these, just what meat is 513 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: for a episode we're gonna film today, So I'm gonna 514 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: reveal it to the contestants and then they're gonna have 515 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: ninety minutes to cook me and the two. 516 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 9: Judges that were here, which one of them is gonna 517 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 9: be Maggie Huddler. 518 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: We also have the most famous butcher I know, and 519 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: the foreman that you're judging today, and they're gonna have 520 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: ninety minutes to cook us up something delicious. 521 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 9: That means the. 522 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: Best part about this show, this is episode number four 523 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: with filming today, is that we've come to see that. 524 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 9: Wild game cooking is not that hard. 525 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: Everybody that's that's participates as far as we've ped up 526 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: some amazing stuff in an elimited amount of time, not 527 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: knowing what they had to work with when they started, 528 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: So the energy level is high or digging producing it 529 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: with us, So I'm hoping that the viewers are going 530 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: to like it too. Any questions Corey or from the 531 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: next door I can just walk over there too, if 532 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: you guys want to talk to me. 533 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnest, I wonder if you're a little overconfident there 534 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: in your assessment that the show is demonstrating that wild 535 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: game cooking is not that hard. I will be joining 536 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: you there in about an hour, and I'll be taking 537 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: the helm at that stove, so I wouldn't really count 538 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: your chickens before they hatch, as the old proverb goes, 539 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: I think I might set a new standard for incompetence. 540 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: A difficult chunk of game me for you too. You're 541 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: not going to have. I'm not giving you like an 542 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: ELF ten you're going to work with, So put your 543 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: thinking cap on. 544 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 9: Randall late, Oh you hear that from Max? No, you're 545 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 9: in an hour, You're late. 546 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: Oh geez, well we better wrap this sucker up then. 547 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: Anything you like to add Chili, Yeah, you know, really 548 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: rooting for you, Randall and the other contention as well. 549 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: But h who should not. 550 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 5: Be named Chilly, just wants to make sure you keep 551 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 5: the kitchen clean while you're working. 552 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, Chili's going a great job remodeling this kitchen. 553 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 9: Check out some beautiful. 554 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: Artwork that's our new art gallery for those of you watching, Well, 555 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: which way this way? Sam, there's the brains behind the 556 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: whole and the creative the creative engine behind it all. 557 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: Sam might just say hi to folks instead of hiding 558 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: behind the. 559 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 4: Lovely There's some real interesting stuff on that shelf behind 560 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 4: Sam too. 561 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, what are some interesting ingredients that these 562 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: folks have to work? 563 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: She's attracted to the craziest stuff that is available in 564 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: the outdoors, and so she really wanted to use the 565 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: python oil. I can't remember who said this to Steve, 566 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: but unfortunately or fortunately you look at it, it's rancid. 567 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: So if you see this in an upcoming episode, you 568 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: will know that that's the person that used it. 569 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 9: Lost really wanted to use it, but it did. 570 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 4: Not smell good. 571 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, we got grizzly. 572 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: Bear fast, which we did use some grizzly bear grease 573 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: the other day, and I wish I knew the story 574 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: on how they legally obtained it. Maybe they got it 575 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: from Alaska, I guess. But it was actually very delicious. 576 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: Oh then the Maggie anchorin the other day used bison 577 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: garum was It basically tasted like an extra rich soy sauce, 578 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: like like mega umami. 579 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really curious how that was made. I would 580 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 4: love to learn how to make garum It was delicious. 581 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: We also, if you've never seen this exotic pasta from 582 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: Italy called Penny Penny. 583 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: I thought the e was silent, just pean. 584 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it's randall elbow macaroni, also from Italy. 585 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: Got any wonderbread any ketchup? 586 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, buddy, we have we have like a 587 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 10: crush shell. 588 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 11: We have a crush shell for those that that can't 589 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 11: get it done with, you know, from scratch. You can 590 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 11: use catch up, wonderbread, that sort of stuff, and I'll 591 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 11: be happy. 592 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: To eat it, but it's probably gonna cost you a 593 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: little bit of in the creativity. 594 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 9: Uh point. 595 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: You don't know what I'm gonna do with it yet. 596 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, but I feel like that stuff's 597 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of a crutch. 598 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 9: It's a little bit of an easy button. 599 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: Well, well, I'm gonna see what I get for my 600 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: uh mystery ingredient today and we'll just proceed from there. 601 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: How's that sound. 602 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 9: We'll see it these folks. 603 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you, sir. 604 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 4: Now Randall has teased me with the prospect of a 605 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 4: meat smoothie. 606 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've been told there's a blender and if 607 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: all else fails can't nail the texture on the uh 608 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: on the hot pan, it's they're going in there take 609 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: it through a straw. 610 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 4: I hope I'm not drinking my meal today. 611 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: You very well might be. 612 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 4: Phil. 613 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: What do we got for some listener feedback here? 614 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, because this reminder now is a good time to 615 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: submit some questions for the crew to day Maggie, Brody 616 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: and Randall. Yeah, this one was just funny to me. 617 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 3: When you were looking at the tv raandl someone said, 618 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: why does Randal always look like he's trying to remember 619 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: his AOL password? Which that's just that's just a funny. 620 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: That's just a funny joke. 621 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny. 622 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: Ryan. 623 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: I am really bad with passwords, so this is I 624 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: usually I don't know what I look like when I'm 625 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: trying to think of I think. 626 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 5: You're just making sure you're saying what you're supposed to say. 627 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, that's true. You know, just trying to 628 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: stick to the script. 629 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 5: Speaking before you think and get you in trouble. 630 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: We like to have a nice clean show here. 631 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: On that note, and I'm trusting you guys right now. 632 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 3: I'm putting a lot of faith in in in you 633 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 3: for not spoiling what's coming up next week. But Wang 634 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 3: Gonzalez asks, if Randall wins the trivia tournament, are we 635 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: going to see some suck at Randall stickers to replace 636 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: the sucket Brody stickers. 637 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 5: I we'll have to come up with something better and suck. 638 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: It from the man himself. 639 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 5: You heard it here that one's copyrighted to me. 640 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: This is something that I'm curious about. Maybe it'll be 641 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 3: a short answer. But Brendan asks. He says, hey, guys, 642 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 3: y'all have any issues with lower turkey numbers due to predation. 643 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: My turkey flocks that I've hunted for years got decimated 644 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 3: by coyotes over the winter. I don't know where you are, Brendan, 645 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: but if you're still in the chat, you want to 646 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: let us know. 647 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like very location dependent. I feel like I 648 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 5: would say out here, numbers are are more influenced by 649 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 5: the severity of winters and whether turkey flocks have access 650 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 5: to this Some people might not like hearing this, but 651 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 5: where turkey flocks out here have access to cattle pastures 652 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 5: in the winter, they're going to do a lot better. 653 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 5: They like getting down in that cattle pasture and pecking 654 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 5: through the cow poop and where they can do that, 655 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 5: they do pretty good. But we had a old winter 656 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 5: well along stratch of cold, so it's yet to be 657 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 5: seen what's going on with turkey numbers in Montana. I 658 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 5: can't speak to anywhere. 659 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 3: Brent Brendan says he's in New Jersey by the way. 660 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 5: M Yeah, I mean predation is certainly a problem, like 661 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 5: a net nest predation. I think you probably uh, raccoons 662 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 5: are doing as much damage as coyotes. 663 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: This this might be a question to uh Caitlin for 664 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 2: share with our next guest. 665 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, she knows a lot about Turkey's coyotes. 666 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 3: She's smiling in the waiting room. I hope that's a 667 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: good sign. Good good in the woods, asks Maggie. What's 668 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: the crat craziest article you've written for me here? And 669 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 3: I'll extend to like maybe maybe your favorite or something 670 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 3: you're you're the most proud of that people should check 671 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 3: out to. 672 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 4: I wrote one about seafood fraud a few years ago. 673 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 4: I think it was titled something like hog bunk of 674 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 4: the sea because people will actually use hog bunk and 675 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 4: slice it up as calamari and sell it as calamari. 676 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 4: And there's like other instances of you know, like Chile 677 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 4: and sea bass. It's I forget what it was actually called. 678 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 4: It's like, uh something toothfish, and it's just like this 679 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 4: renaming rebranding. Selling seafood is something that it maybe isn't 680 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 4: just to market it to the consumer, which is really 681 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 4: interesting because people still consume it and buy it. 682 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: And that name really took hold after it was served 683 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: for launch at Jurassic Park headquarters, just fictional island where 684 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: Jurassic Park was. Philly got anything else from the check? 685 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 3: Does Randall like skyline Chili? 686 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 4: Oh? 687 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 2: I love it so much. I love so much, Austin, 688 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: Do you have any send it to me? I just 689 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: made some. I just made some fake skyline a couple 690 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. 691 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 5: Maybe you'll be making some in half an hour I could, Yeah, yeah, 692 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 5: in a blender. 693 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 3: We'll see. 694 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 4: Do you put beans in skyline Chili? 695 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 7: Uh? 696 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 2: No, you can add you can add beans. 697 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 4: Beans and noodles. Seems weird. 698 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. So so, typically it's served in a number of ways. 699 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: You have a three way, which is chili. It's it's spaghetti, 700 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 2: chili and cheese. And then you can have a four 701 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 2: way where you either add chopped onions or beans chopped 702 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: five way where you add both, or you serve them 703 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: on a coney hot dog, little mini. 704 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 4: Hot dog, hot dog with noodles. 705 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: Oh, no, you could, but that's typically not the traditional way. 706 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 2: Bee Dawson. I could go on for hours about Skyline Chili. 707 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 2: I love it. Also a gold Star man, but Skyline 708 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 2: really is probably my number one. 709 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 3: A question from mogor Uh. He says he finished the 710 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 3: new audiobook this week, the one that you made with Steve. 711 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 3: He really enjoyed it. Congratulations. His question is how much 712 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 3: research was needed for the project. And I guess, like 713 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 3: you could say that in terms of months, or books 714 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 3: or hours. 715 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 2: I'll just say that that's my full time job. Trivia 716 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: and podcasts and radio live are just sort of the 717 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: icing on top, but none of that is in my 718 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: job description. It's a full time job. I don't really 719 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 2: know where to start with number of books, but yeah, 720 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 2: we probably worked on that for oh, I guess maybe 721 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 2: seven months for the first draft, and then rewrote a 722 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 2: bit and then recorded it probably nine months out from 723 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 2: when we started, So it's like a year long life 724 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 2: cycle basically between getting it started and then the launch 725 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 2: and promotion and everything. 726 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 5: You're already researching the next one, aren't. 727 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 2: You, in the spare time that I have. Yes, we've 728 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: got another one coming out on the Buffalo Hide Hunters, 729 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 2: which is kind of a subject near and dear to 730 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 2: Steve's heart. So that's that's been a fun one to 731 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: get started. 732 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 3: There was a question regarding your crossword puzzle scores, Rano 733 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 3: that we haven't gotten an update in a while, but 734 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 3: then Spencer, our very own Spencer new Heart, responded that 735 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: Randall scores are posted at the top of every crossword puzzle. 736 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: If you go look at any of them, you'll see 737 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 3: his score in the first sentence. Do you know what 738 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 3: that means? 739 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 2: Probably in the little lead in instructions thing. Yeah, So 740 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 2: when Spencer puts together a crossword every week, he and 741 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 2: Logan who plugs it into the website, give me that 742 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: link in advance. You take it first, and I take 743 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 2: it first, so then everybody can. And this week, let 744 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: me just point out here that this week I scored 745 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 2: a three ninety five with a record time of a 746 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 2: minute and thirty four seconds. Pretty proud of that one, 747 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 2: Thanks Spencer. 748 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 3: That's great. 749 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: Crosswords are an part of my job that aren't in 750 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: my job description. 751 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 4: Curious that is because you have a superhuman ability to 752 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 4: get them done in that amount of time. 753 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 2: I just don't have much else. 754 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 3: Let's do one more on the heels. Let's do one 755 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 3: more on the heels of the Meat Eater behind the 756 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 3: scenes HQ. Yeah, this is kind of a big question 757 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 3: for everyone, but Michael asks, what's your favorite part of 758 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 3: working at Meat Eater? That could be anything from crossword 759 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 3: puzzles to researching mountain men for months. 760 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: Who wants to start? 761 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 5: My favorite part is turning in a finished manuscript. The 762 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 5: rest of it is isn't necessarily that fun, but man, 763 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 5: when you're like, holy shit, we're done, like that's a 764 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 5: good feeling. 765 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 4: That's got to be satisfying. 766 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 2: Yep, Maggie, I would. 767 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 4: Say, just like the content that we get to work 768 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 4: with day in and day out is really great and fun, 769 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 4: and we like everyone that we work with is a 770 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 4: fantastic person Like, it's just a really great community here. 771 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 5: I didn't think about that. 772 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, interrupted, I just couldn't help myself. 773 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 4: No, every and every time I come into the office, 774 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 4: I'm reminded of like all the good folks that work here. 775 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 4: So that's it's nice, you don't You don't always get that, 776 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 4: so I try not to take it for granted. 777 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would probably echo some variation of that. I 778 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: enjoy coming into the office and just having fun all 779 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: day long. 780 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 5: Like today, all you're doing is having fun all day long. 781 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, just make a couple of stupid jokes and act 782 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 2: like a buffoon. You know, A lot of jobs require 783 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: you to maintain some level of professionalism, and I like 784 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 2: that I can just be a weirdo. 785 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 3: I'll second that. 786 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, let it, let it shine, just let it fly. 787 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 3: Cool. Well, let's keep sending those questions in. We'll do 788 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 3: one more round of those at the end of the seas. 789 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 2: Those are some good ones. Thank you. Joining us on 790 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 2: the line is Wild Turkey researcher and fur trapper Caitlin 791 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 2: lo Spinoso, or as some of you may know her 792 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: better on social media as old Trapper Kate. Caitlin. Welcome 793 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 2: to the show. 794 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 10: Hi, how are you. 795 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: We're doing great? How are you? 796 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 10: I'm good mentally? Oh no, but you know we'll get there. 797 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 2: Good, good, Well, Caitlin tell us a little bit. Uh, 798 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: you are a wildlife researcher and a fur trapper, and 799 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 2: anybody who's following along on social media knows that you've 800 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 2: been rather busy lately with your trapping season. Can you 801 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 2: just give us a quick overview of of your trapping season, 802 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 2: kind of what when that starts, when that ends, and 803 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 2: how hard you go? 804 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 8: Yes, So it's been a crazy season. Land trapping wrapped 805 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 8: up here. The season closed on Friday, so I've been 806 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 8: taken this week for some R and R, just kind 807 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 8: of relaxing before I start setting for Biaber. 808 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 10: We have another month of water trapping coming up here. 809 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 8: So I had a great land trapping season, targeting bobcats 810 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 8: and coyotes. I'm trapping all on public land, so I 811 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 8: can't run a huge line. I probably average about twelve 812 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 8: sets at any given time and just run those as 813 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 8: I can while I'm working. And I did fantastic on bobcats. 814 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 8: There was a record year. I doubled my goal. I 815 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 8: was hoping I would get four. I got a nice, 816 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 8: amazingly spotted, just beautiful cats. Yeah, that was actually my 817 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 8: my last hurrah. Last week on them, I I doubled 818 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 8: up and that spotted one was just a beautiful tom. 819 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 10: But yeah, I got nine. 820 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 8: Coyotes as well, and it was it was a grind 821 00:43:59,080 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 8: this season. 822 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 10: I really really enjoyed it, had a great time. 823 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 2: Very cool. How did you get into trapping, if you 824 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 2: don't mind us asking. 825 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 10: Yeah, very non traditionally. 826 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 8: I didn't have any history of trapping in my family. 827 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 8: I didn't know any trappers. I just it was totally 828 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 8: not on my radar. But I love the grind. I 829 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 8: taught myself how to hunt in public land. I taught 830 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 8: myself how to bass fish like a pro. I just 831 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 8: always loved having some kind of really complex problem to 832 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 8: solve in the outdoors. And I found myself in that 833 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 8: kind of dead space between deer season and Turkey season, 834 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 8: just really trying to find something I could go hard 835 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 8: on and really get into. And I had the hardest 836 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 8: time figuring out what that could be until I went 837 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 8: into undergrad and I had a wildlife management course where 838 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 8: trapping was discussed as a method for both research and harvest, 839 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 8: and it kind of got my wheels turning. And I 840 00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 8: actually remembered the Wyoming beaver trapping episode that that was 841 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 8: in I think season six of Meat Eater where Steve 842 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 8: snared one and it just clicked like instantly. 843 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 10: I was like, that's the next step, that's it. 844 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 4: I can do that. 845 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 8: And I had tons of beaver in the creek bottom 846 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 8: that I was hunting on public, so I went in there. 847 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 8: It took me two days, got my first beaver, and 848 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 8: it just snowballed from there. 849 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 10: I was. I was hooked, and now now I'm I'm doing. 850 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 8: Everything that I possibly can coyote, bobcat, raccoon, possum, skunk, beaver, 851 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 8: hopefully otter I'll get back into. 852 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 10: There's not many here where I'm at here in Kansas now. 853 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 2: But these pillows here that are on the screen, those 854 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 2: you set those in for the auction house of otities, 855 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 2: if I recall. 856 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 8: So, not those ones in the picture there's there's a 857 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 8: photo of me holding to those are the ones that 858 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 8: I sent in. But yeah, I started so when I 859 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 8: started trapping and I started out with beaver, I was 860 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 8: getting all these you know, beautiful pelts and looking at 861 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 8: the fur market obviously dried fur. It's been talked about 862 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 8: a lot like the fur market was just in the tank. 863 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 8: Beaver's come up a little bit with the with the. 864 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 10: Western hat craze. 865 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 8: But at the time, I was trying to figure out, 866 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 8: how can I use this fur in in kind of 867 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 8: a unique way that I'm going to be able to 868 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 8: turn more of a profit than I would if I 869 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 8: just sold the dried pelts to a fur buyer. And 870 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 8: I started thinking about, like, how can I make it 871 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 8: a novelty? And the first thing I thought it was like, man, 872 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,439 Speaker 8: these are these would make like a. 873 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 10: Really awesome throw pillow. 874 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 8: So I just took, you know, I took the beaver 875 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 8: that I got that first season, I tandemed myself and 876 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 8: and I just got to making them into into pillows 877 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 8: and selling them on just through Facebook, and they were 878 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 8: selling really well. So then I thought, you know what 879 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 8: about Etsy if I really got a store going and 880 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 8: sold you know, Wallhannger pelts and you know, different fur 881 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 8: items that I could make myself. And yeah, just kind 882 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 8: of went from there. And those the ones that I 883 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 8: donated when I made them. I really loved that pair 884 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 8: was this beautiful, dark kind of chocolate beaver pelts and 885 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 8: they matched perfectly, and and I was just sitting there 886 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 8: like fixing them up, and I was going to the 887 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 8: Meat Eater Live show that night actually when I finished them, 888 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 8: and I was. 889 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 10: Like, I wonder, I wonder if they would take. 890 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 8: This for the auction house because I was like, that 891 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 8: would be a really cool thing to see. You know 892 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 8: how much these could get for the for the cause? 893 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 8: And yeah, message Spencer and he was like, yeah, we'll 894 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 8: take them. Heck yeah, And I was. I was super 895 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 8: worried that they weren't gonna do much in the in 896 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 8: the auction but they they actually did really well, so 897 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 8: that was awesome. 898 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 2: Do you remember what they sold for you got that? 899 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 8: I think it was eight hundred and five if I remember, 900 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 8: Oh nice, yeah, And I mean they were a beautiful set, 901 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 8: and I like, I I was going to keep them 902 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 8: for myself. I was like, oh, like if this can 903 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 8: go to to raising some money for the cause, and 904 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 8: obviously that's just like a super cool thing. 905 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 2: To do, so very cool. We appreciate it very much. 906 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 4: What do you typically sell a beaver throw pillow for? 907 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 8: So I had been selling them, uh for depending on 908 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 8: the size, probably eighty two one hundred eighty depending because 909 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 8: I would make some like really little tiny ones that 910 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 8: are like like just a cute little thing to have, 911 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 8: and then I had some that were like eighteen twenty 912 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 8: inches that would be and depending on the backing that 913 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 8: I put on them, Like if I just did a 914 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 8: basic kind of corduroy backing, obviously that's much cheaper. Some 915 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 8: of them I did swayed, which is which is a lot. Yeah, 916 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 8: Spencer does confirmed eight hundred five. 917 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 10: Yeah I did. 918 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 8: I did swayed on those, so it was really those 919 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 8: were a really nice set. But yeah, I've done I've 920 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 8: done double sided for which is going to be the 921 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 8: most expensive. But yeah, the backing material adds adds a 922 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 8: that's a big variation. 923 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 10: The value and then the side. 924 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 4: Sure did you already know how to sew or did 925 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 4: you learn that as well? 926 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,240 Speaker 2: As same question if that's another thing you just figured 927 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 2: out for something to do. 928 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 8: I learned to make the pillows, you know. I was like, 929 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 8: the idea for a pillow came into my head. 930 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 10: And I was like, I don't know how. 931 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 8: To stitch like a pillow cover, and so I, yeah, 932 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 8: I learned that on the fly, and uh, it's it's 933 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 8: so much fun. It's just you know, another another thing 934 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 8: to keep me engaged with it and do something more 935 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 8: with that with that fur. It really it it makes 936 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 8: me very happy to you know, make as much back 937 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 8: on that harvest, like make that harvest as meaningful as 938 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 8: possible and get as much use as it out of 939 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 8: it as I can. 940 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 10: So yeah, I really enjoy that part. 941 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:48,760 Speaker 2: Very cool. 942 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 4: It's impressive. 943 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 2: So how are the critters in your neck the woods 944 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 2: doing this year? What are your takeaways from the season 945 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 2: as far as hair and hides and the health of 946 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 2: the health of the populations. 947 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, so they've been They were really really healthy. Started 948 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 10: the year. 949 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,359 Speaker 8: The coyotes were as about as fatty as I've seen 950 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 8: them and super primed up. 951 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 10: They stayed prime all the way through the end of 952 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:15,720 Speaker 10: the season. 953 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 8: On Friday, I think, you know, obviously it was just 954 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 8: talked about we had a really hard winner. The last 955 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 8: couple winners have been kind of mild to where getting 956 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 8: into February they would already have some rubs and and 957 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 8: just losing. 958 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 10: Those guard hairs. 959 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 8: But this season they were they were primed like I 960 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 8: have not seen since I've been here. This is my 961 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 8: third season trapping here, so they're they were just fantastic. 962 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 10: I was. I was over the moon with it, especially like. 963 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 8: Friday, I picked up my last coyote of the season 964 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,959 Speaker 8: and she I was expecting her to have rubs and stuff, 965 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 8: but she was still super prime. So this this is 966 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 8: not a I mean, Kansas, it's not you know, a 967 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 8: top tier first date usually. But the animals that I 968 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 8: pulled this year were very very well, doing very well, 969 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 8: very cool. Yeah, they had some I saw some crazy injuries, 970 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 8: which I sent in a picture of one that that 971 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 8: coyote that I pulled on Friday, she was super big, healthy. 972 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 8: You wouldn't have thought that anything was wrong with her. 973 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 8: And when I got to skinning her got down to 974 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 8: her face and I hit metal and I was like, 975 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 8: oh gosh, right around her eye, I hit metal, So 976 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 8: I like pull the skin back and there's a broadhead 977 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 8: sticking out of her eye socket. Wow. 978 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 10: She was just gnarly. 979 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,399 Speaker 8: It was just when I got in there and started 980 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 8: digging around, it was just sitting under her eyeball Like. 981 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. 982 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, you could not tell that anything was wrong. She 983 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 8: had like a little lump under her eye that was 984 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 8: healed over, scabbed over, And when I got to skinning, 985 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 8: I hit metal and I could not figure out what 986 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 8: it was and had to clean it up before I 987 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 8: could see that it was a broadhead. But yeah, you 988 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 8: wouldn't have known her. Her one eye was like up 989 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 8: a little higher than the other because it was resting 990 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 8: on the broad head. But the eye wasn't punctured like 991 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 8: she was. She was doing great. So yeah, pretty crazy stuff. 992 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 8: They're they're tough and they they made it through very 993 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,280 Speaker 8: well this year despite the harch weather. 994 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 4: So oh yeah, that's incredible. 995 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for joining us. I know you've got 996 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 2: to rest up before you kick off your your spring 997 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 2: beaver trapping, so appreciate the update and we will check 998 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 2: in with you again here soon. 999 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, sounds good. Thank you, Thank you for having me. 1000 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 2: Our next segment is Meat Eater Movie Club. Thank you. 1001 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 2: Phil Jean Jacques Anoud's nineteen eighty eight feature The Bear 1002 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 2: offers a mesmerizing glimpse into the wilderness through the eyes 1003 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,320 Speaker 2: of its ersine protagonists. This largely dialogue free film follows 1004 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 2: an orphaned cub who forms an unlikely dare I say, 1005 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 2: unnatural bond with an adult male grizzly while fleeing human 1006 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 2: hunters in the Canadian wilderness. The arc of the film, 1007 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 2: though simple, carries surprising emotional weight. We witness terror, playfulness, curiosity, 1008 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 2: and tenderness through the bear's experiences. In my own reading 1009 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 2: of the film, the human hunters or portrayed not as 1010 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 2: unredeemable killers, but as yet another species on the landscape, 1011 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 2: prisoners of their own nature, which adds a layer of 1012 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,919 Speaker 2: moral complexity to the tale. But all else, the Bear 1013 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 2: is a noteworthy technical achievement in the underappreciated genre of 1014 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 2: animal movies, anod somehow elicits authentic performances from real bears, 1015 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 2: only rivaled in my mind by the profound work of 1016 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 2: Sam the orangutan in as the title character in the 1017 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six comedy Dunstan checks In. The Bear manages 1018 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 2: to create moments of genuine emotion without excessively anthropomorphizing its subjects, 1019 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 2: although I think we might have some discussion on that later. 1020 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,280 Speaker 2: I did add the qualifier excessively. The film stunning cinematography 1021 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,800 Speaker 2: captures both the brutal reality and sublime grandeur of nature 1022 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 2: as it is red in Tooth and Claw. Most remarkable 1023 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 2: is the film's successful execution of what can only be 1024 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,280 Speaker 2: described as the peculiar artistic vision of its French director. 1025 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 2: Ant had long been fascinated by nonverbal communication and specifically 1026 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 2: sought to make an animal the lead character in a 1027 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:39,760 Speaker 2: psychological drama, a revolutionary concept that challenged conventional Hollywood wisdom. 1028 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 2: He boldly inverts the traditional literary conflict type of man 1029 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 2: versus beast, placing humans as the antagonists rather than the protagonist. 1030 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 2: Whereas films like The Gray Parentheses Media to Radio Live 1031 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 2: Episode two position large conivores as an existential threat to 1032 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 2: human survival, and those like The Edge Fanentheses Media to 1033 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,720 Speaker 2: Radio Live Episode fifteen employ them to heighten familiar conflicts 1034 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 2: rooted in the human experience, The Bear elevates animal consciousness 1035 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 2: to the narrative center. This radical perspective shift forces viewers 1036 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 2: to confront uncomfortable questions about our fundamental relationship with wildlife 1037 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 2: and our place within nature's hierarchy. The Bear is a 1038 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:25,800 Speaker 2: unique cinematic experience, particularly after a few glasses of wine. 1039 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 2: It's a testament to the power of filmmaking that transcends 1040 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 2: language barriers to speak directly to our primal understanding of survival, family, 1041 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 2: and the wilderness. Phil I appreciate your screen grab there. Now, 1042 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 2: what do the critics say? Roger Ebert gave this film 1043 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 2: three out of four stars and had this to say 1044 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 2: about the dialogue of the hunters quote. Their words are 1045 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 2: not meant to be language, but simply the sounds made 1046 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,359 Speaker 2: by the animal named man. And I have a couple 1047 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 2: of quick facts for you here. It's based on a 1048 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 2: nineteen sixteen called The Grizzly King. Brody characterized it as 1049 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 2: a book written by a repentant French. 1050 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,800 Speaker 5: Guilman guil Frenchman. 1051 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 2: It was filmed over nineteen weeks in the Dolomites in 1052 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 2: Italy with three actors, twenty three bears, and lots of 1053 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 2: other critters. They had to teach this bear how to 1054 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 2: fish because he had been living in captivity in Utah 1055 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 2: and didn't have experience with fishing, so they hired a 1056 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 2: guy to come on set every day and release a 1057 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,240 Speaker 2: fish into the pond. But the bear was initially afraid 1058 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,839 Speaker 2: of the fish. And then this is my final note here. 1059 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 2: This one might go on a little bit. One day 1060 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 2: during production, Bart the bear injured a nod while the 1061 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 2: two posed for photographers. A Nod's wounds, which included claw 1062 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 2: marks on his back, had to be drained with a 1063 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 2: shunt for two months. Then I happened to find this 1064 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 2: quote from an interview. I believe it's translated from the 1065 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 2: original French. So I'll do my best. I was a 1066 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 2: very good friend of Zibert. One days, the photographer had 1067 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 2: to make the use you a picture of the director 1068 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 2: and z star this film. I had to show that 1069 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 2: my star was huge, so I stood on a little mound. 1070 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 2: Of course, all that protected me was a flimsy fence. 1071 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,800 Speaker 2: So I went into his part his domain. I was standing, 1072 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 2: but he was so high I could not see his head. 1073 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 2: To make it even more apparent, I decided to squat. 1074 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 2: I always carry my viewfinder, you know, I took it 1075 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 2: like this. He had never seen my viewfinder. I immediately 1076 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 2: understood that I did something wrong. Ooh la la. He 1077 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 2: didn't add that I did. He leaned down with his 1078 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 2: mouth open. That means you're not my friend. I knew 1079 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 2: what to do. I decided to go limp bin. 1080 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 5: A great German accent. 1081 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 2: I really tried not to make this German brand. 1082 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 3: It's really good. You're you're kind of towing the line. 1083 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 3: I'd say it's more French than German, though I'm giving 1084 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 3: you credit. 1085 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,959 Speaker 2: He stroked me on the shoulder and I went six 1086 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 2: seven meters down. I heard his mouth go ek ek 1087 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 2: ek eck. His trainer says okay, good boy, good boy. 1088 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 2: Clearly he too wanted to kill the director. The stench 1089 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 2: was incredible. I felt he missed an opportunity and crab. 1090 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: I felt that this was my mistake. Very Fortunately, I 1091 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 2: had read the book called Bear Attacks, and they explains 1092 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 2: that the only survivors. 1093 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 3: Of a bear attack now it's very German, were. 1094 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 2: Those who were playing dead. Apparently that was the only 1095 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 2: time I was a good actor that's German, when I 1096 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 2: was playing dead, so I trusted that I was dead. 1097 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 2: The last two months of shooting. I had to go 1098 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 2: to the hospital every morning and evening after the shoot, 1099 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 2: as I was seriously wounded. Otherwise I should be in 1100 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 2: a wheelchair today. The very touching thing is that for 1101 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 2: the z rest of the shoot, Bear never met my 1102 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 2: eyes again. Each time I was moving on Z set, 1103 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 2: he looked away like a dog feeling guilty. 1104 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 4: Well done, Randall. 1105 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 2: So I just thought that was too good not to share. 1106 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 2: And we couldn't play the video because it's in French, so. 1107 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 5: Well you could have translated in that voice. 1108 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 2: What do you guys think of the movie? 1109 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 5: Here? Big Picture to have a hard time calling it 1110 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 5: a movie. I think it's propaganda at best. 1111 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,959 Speaker 4: Answer, finest sleep. 1112 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 5: It's like it's like nature good Man, bad, Hunting worse 1113 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 5: and uh. Like we were talking about Roger Ebert's Uh. 1114 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 5: Roger Ebert's review, that man, who was a very respected 1115 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 5: movie critic when he was still alive, said like part 1116 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 5: of his review is like it gives you a glimpse 1117 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 5: into how bears live, which tells you, like how much 1118 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 5: that guy knows about like how bears live. Like, I 1119 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 5: would add more respect for this movie if it was 1120 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 5: a Disney channel or a Disney movie where the bears 1121 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 5: talked and they had the funny raccoon sidekick that followed 1122 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 5: him around, Like it would have been better if it 1123 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 5: was done that. 1124 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 4: Way, right, I would have more respect for this movie 1125 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 4: if they didn't use a monkey and a child the 1126 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 4: noises that the cub makes, because if you haven't watched 1127 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 4: the bear the entire time, the cub is just. 1128 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 2: Like making these So that. 1129 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 4: I looked it up, it was either a monkey or 1130 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 4: a child making those noises. 1131 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 2: In my notes here, right between the note that says, oh, 1132 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 2: this is too sad and the note that says steep 1133 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 2: ass country, I have a note that says this bear 1134 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 2: is giving off strong monkey vibes. 1135 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,959 Speaker 4: So monkey or child, so they. 1136 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 2: Couldn't just set the noises were bad. 1137 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 4: The noises were bad. I think it like the cinematography 1138 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 4: in the movie is beautiful. 1139 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 3: And it's it's really striking. 1140 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, like this movie looks looks incredible, like the Dolomites. 1141 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 4: It's it's really cool. And I think if they just 1142 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 4: had like music, like a good score, I think it 1143 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 4: would be a lot more powerful than these horrid whimpering. 1144 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 3: It's something else. The bear either that. The fully work 1145 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 3: overall is kind of rough. There's the very beginning when 1146 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 3: the mom is cleaning off her cub with her tongue 1147 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 3: and it sounds like a human being slurping jelly. 1148 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, Phil, For for those of us who aren't 1149 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 2: in showbiz, folly is a. 1150 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 3: Oh yes, fully. A fully artist is someone who records 1151 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 3: sounds after the movie is shot, basically fake sounds. Not 1152 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 3: I mean the sounds aren't fake, but. 1153 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 5: Something you have a lot of experience with. 1154 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 9: I do. 1155 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I not just at meat Eater, but for for 1156 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 3: TV shows I worked. I worked on Mountain Men on 1157 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 3: the History Channel and all those footsteps you hear through 1158 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 3: the snow are my footsteps walking through snow. That's fully 1159 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 3: something after the fact, and then plug it in in 1160 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 3: the I. 1161 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 2: Think the moments like that are my favorite part of it. 1162 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 5: I think this movie should have ended with the folly 1163 01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 5: of that male grizzly crunching that cub skull. That's like, 1164 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 5: that's how it would have ended in real life. 1165 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 4: Yet not the cub licking the bullet wound. 1166 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that was. 1167 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 2: My least favorite part of it. Was just the dynamic 1168 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 2: between the cub and the bore. But otherwise there were 1169 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 2: a lot of times where if I wasn't paying attention 1170 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 2: to what was coming out of the speakers, I was 1171 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 2: just like, man, I'm looking at some bears doing bear 1172 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 2: stuff in beautiful country. 1173 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 4: But the bear acting was really impressive, and apparently Bart 1174 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 4: the bear almost got an oscar for not killing the 1175 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 4: cub like that specifically. 1176 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I there's also a there's a whole 1177 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 2: book about how they made this, and there's also a 1178 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 2: fifty minute documentary on YouTube of behind the scenes footage 1179 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 2: and it's ship I skimmed through it, and you get 1180 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 2: to see the trainers trying to stimulate the bears into 1181 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 2: making different faces and then sort of leading them around, 1182 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,640 Speaker 2: through their through their steps on the scene, you get 1183 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 2: to see the lion. 1184 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 4: Uh. 1185 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 5: I think Bart the bear was better in Legends of 1186 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 5: the Fall when he rips up. Brad Pitt agreed. 1187 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 2: Totally, totally. But I think one of the things that 1188 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 2: bothered me the most. I mean, my notes are just chaos. 1189 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 10: Same. 1190 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 5: Were you just watching a movie with a coldie in 1191 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 5: your hand writing stuff down? Yeah? 1192 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, it was not a movie that I 1193 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 2: felt I had to pay particularly close attention to. But 1194 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 2: when he's cleaning the gun and there's not it's like 1195 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 2: this beautiful gun and he's got the action open and 1196 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 2: there's not like a drop of grease. 1197 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 9: On it anywhere. 1198 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 2: There's no grime or grid anywhere. That was the thing 1199 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 2: that just jumped out to me the most. 1200 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,400 Speaker 5: You appreciated that, or you felt it was it. 1201 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 2: Was unrealistic for that guy, the way that guy looked. 1202 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 2: I don't think his gun was as clean as it was. 1203 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 4: I don't think you would have had that pretty of 1204 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 4: a gun either. I think this was like French director 1205 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 4: wanting to have this like, yeah, he's a bear hunter, 1206 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 4: he has a bear gun. As this pile of dead 1207 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 4: bears that the cub lays on, you know, like, but 1208 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,919 Speaker 4: I did think it was a really cool gun. Yeah, 1209 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 4: And I looked it up and apparently it's Tom. Is 1210 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 4: this man's name Tom? I'm assuming you didn't pick that 1211 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 4: up in. 1212 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 2: The no French reading the Wikipedia. 1213 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 4: Same, So this is Tom and that's a Winchester eighteen 1214 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 4: sixty six Yellow Boy rifle, which is a very cool 1215 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 4: name for a very cool gun. I believe it was 1216 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 4: forty four rim fire. 1217 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 5: Not one you'd want to be shooting a grizzly with. 1218 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Well, clearly when you know the one. The other note 1219 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 2: I have. 1220 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,760 Speaker 4: When he cuts the tips of the bullets. 1221 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 2: When he shoots, No, when he shoots the bear and 1222 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 2: he goes, the guy goes, oh, you spooked him, And 1223 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 2: I was just saying that you usually don't. If someone 1224 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 2: shoots something in the front half and there's a big, 1225 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 2: gaping wound, you usually don't call it spooked. Right You 1226 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 2: hit it, Yeah, you hit it, and probably greenviously wounded it. 1227 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,880 Speaker 2: But spooked was the the word choice of the the 1228 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 2: screenwriter there. 1229 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 4: So, and then the bear goes on to kill a mule, yeah, 1230 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 4: like seriously, and you're a horse and then leave. 1231 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 2: I wrote here. 1232 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 3: Also like how the guy said my gun jam after. 1233 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how that affected it. 1234 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:24,480 Speaker 2: I wrote, uh, I wrote horse wounds are wild because 1235 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 2: they did have a lot of animal blood in this film. 1236 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 4: On the dog guts. 1237 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, what about the sex scene? 1238 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, there was there speaking of animal noises. 1239 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 4: There did not need to be that level of grunting. 1240 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 4: It was unnecessary. 1241 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 5: It's like a regular old movie with a sex scene. 1242 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the kid just watching with a. 1243 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,000 Speaker 5: Kid watching, Yeah, that that. 1244 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 2: You can't do that if humans are your protagonists. 1245 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 5: No, you can't. You can't. 1246 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 2: So would you recommend this film? 1247 01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,800 Speaker 5: It's so hard for me. Like when Mike boys were younger, 1248 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 5: they would have watched it and probably enjoyed it, but 1249 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,919 Speaker 5: I wouldn't have been able to watch it with them 1250 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 5: because I'd just been like, that's not right, that's not yeah, 1251 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 5: that's not right. That would never So, I mean, it's 1252 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 5: a it like has its moments, I guess, but no. 1253 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 4: Look when I was like ten years old, when I 1254 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 4: was a child, I watched Old Yeller on repeat. That 1255 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 4: was like my go to movie. 1256 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 5: That's some real shit there. 1257 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 4: That is some real shit. But I also enjoyed, Like 1258 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 4: do you guys ever see Wild America. 1259 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, Marky Stove, Yeah was that his name? 1260 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, with really really awful animatronic bears. But 1261 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 4: like I loved that as a kid. 1262 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 5: Isn't that the guy had got in trouble for like 1263 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 5: for Raisin Bears. 1264 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for like staging Wildlife. 1265 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, if this movie is ninety seven minutes long, there's 1266 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 2: probably fifty minutes of it that I could clip out 1267 01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 2: and just play on repeat with a different sound. And 1268 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 2: I just glance over at the monitor every now and 1269 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 2: then when I'm watching an NBA game and they go 1270 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 2: to a TV timeout and I could just watch the 1271 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 2: bears kind of moving across the landscape. 1272 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 4: I would have been this would have been my jam. 1273 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Randall, you said that you watched a little behind 1274 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 3: the scenes documentary and saw some kind of wild stuff. Yes, 1275 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 3: like what, I'm sorry, Well, I just suggest you, like 1276 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 3: like there's some scenes where they use puppets or how 1277 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 3: they were kind of like they had the bears chained up, 1278 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 3: so they did use. 1279 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 2: Like puppet or animatronic bears for some of the fighting scenes, 1280 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 2: but otherwise it's just real bears. 1281 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 4: And yeah, they were in the dream scenes. 1282 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 2: In the dream scenes, Yeah, when he eats, the Mario mushrooms, 1283 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 2: the Super Mario mushrooms and just goes wild. That reminded 1284 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 2: me of the time that I went to Chuck E Chee. 1285 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 2: When I went to Chuck E Cheese and I was 1286 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 2: much too old to go to Chuck E Cheese and 1287 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,919 Speaker 2: the animatronic animals kind of pop out of the wall 1288 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,920 Speaker 2: and there's purple lights flashing around. 1289 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 5: Age uncomfortable, horrible. 1290 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 2: Flashbacks to that, But yeah, they they I mean to 1291 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 2: move the animals around. They had chains on them, and 1292 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:14,840 Speaker 2: they would kind of like walk them on the rocks, 1293 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,040 Speaker 2: like across the river, and like you could see them 1294 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 2: sort of setting the bear on that piece of wood 1295 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 2: that he floats down on. It was pretty weird stuff, 1296 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,719 Speaker 2: pretty weird stuff, but also interesting. I think that brings 1297 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,560 Speaker 2: us the end of Meat Eater Movie Club. Another flawlessly 1298 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,639 Speaker 2: executed segment until I dropped Phil's little prompt there at 1299 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 2: the end. But I think it turned out all right. Phil, 1300 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 2: what's the chat saying? 1301 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:46,280 Speaker 3: Well, there was a funny little conversation that happened. Canadian 1302 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,440 Speaker 3: Hunter asked us, now that you no longer have an internate, 1303 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,679 Speaker 3: are you looking for a new Internnate? I'm assuming Canadian 1304 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 3: hunter's name is Nate. And then our very own internate 1305 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 3: Pipe piped in and said, intern isn't a title, it's 1306 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 3: a way of life. Wants an internate, always an internate, 1307 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 3: and then Spencer said, get back to work, Nate. I 1308 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 3: just thought that was funny. Jack's fishing asks that his 1309 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 3: kids or her kids love Meat Eater trivia? Is there 1310 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 3: any more coming up soon? There will be more Meat 1311 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,680 Speaker 3: Eater Kids episodes this summer. We are currently in pre 1312 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:20,040 Speaker 3: production on those sighting, so stay tuned. And honestly, that 1313 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 3: was pretty much the only question we got between the. 1314 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 5: Last No reactions to the movie. 1315 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of reactions. I don't know. 1316 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if a lot of people watched watch 1317 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 3: the movie, so they didn't have a lot to say, 1318 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 3: but they had a lot of a lot of comments, 1319 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 3: mostly suggesting new movies like Leland suggested the legacy of 1320 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,879 Speaker 3: a White til Yeah, there's been a lot of hundreds 1321 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 3: of beavers suggestions and that's a that's a newer movie, 1322 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:49,080 Speaker 3: so that might be kind of fun to do. 1323 01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is one that's on the list. Corey has 1324 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 2: been helping us curate our selections. 1325 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 3: So jess A cow Guys said that Brody was the 1326 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 3: only one old enough to see it by himself. It 1327 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 3: isn't true. This movie came out in nineteen eighty eight. 1328 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,800 Speaker 3: I Randall was alive. I believe, I. 1329 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:06,840 Speaker 2: Bet I was two years old. 1330 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's just like ben like it's people are 1331 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 5: still wi like it's been around. 1332 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 4: It's on Amazon, yeah right. 1333 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very accessible for those of you with an 1334 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:17,799 Speaker 2: Internet connection. 1335 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 5: Like people think they can hit me with those age 1336 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 5: jokes and I'm telling you it doesn't. Just like it 1337 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 5: just doesn't matter. Give up, Brody. 1338 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,600 Speaker 3: Also, Spencer pulled a guy and another good one and 1339 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,639 Speaker 3: wished you a very happy birthday today, Brody, Happy birthday, Brody? 1340 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:36,040 Speaker 5: What's that? 1341 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 3: Spencer wished you a happy birthday in the chat? You 1342 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 3: have a lot of happy birthday messages from people, so 1343 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 3: I just thought i'd extend that to hear. 1344 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,360 Speaker 4: I didn't fall for it this time, Spencer. 1345 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:46,799 Speaker 5: I'm not following Spencer. 1346 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 3: Spencer everything about once every once a month, Spencer wishes 1347 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 3: happy birthday to someone in the chat, and it's when 1348 01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 3: it's not their birthday, and he gets a kick out 1349 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:55,320 Speaker 3: of it. 1350 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 5: And I'm glad he. 1351 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:58,479 Speaker 3: Brody doesn't I'm glad. 1352 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,960 Speaker 2: Well gang. Before we go, Brody's got a special call 1353 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,919 Speaker 2: to action for you folks out there. 1354 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 5: Yes, Surrey, for the twenty twenty six calendar, we are 1355 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 5: doing another e fed Up Old calendar this year. It 1356 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 5: is going to be efed up old trucks, which you 1357 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 5: should interpret as e fed up old hunting rigs. So 1358 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 5: we'll be taking submissions kids, if you're listening, close your ears. 1359 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 5: The email to submit photos of your fucked up old 1360 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 5: hunting truck is fucked Up Old Trucks at the meat 1361 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:42,559 Speaker 5: eater dot com. We are this year the calendar, we're 1362 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 5: going to donate a portion of the sales to back 1363 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 5: huntry hunters and anglers so they can keep on fighting 1364 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 5: these attacks on public lands. So that that's like, that 1365 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,600 Speaker 5: reason alone is why you should buy the calendar. But 1366 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,879 Speaker 5: they'll be they'll end up being some really cool photos 1367 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,960 Speaker 5: of old trucks and and we'll sort through them. We'll 1368 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,479 Speaker 5: get a bunch of them, hopefully. Then we're gonna have 1369 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,719 Speaker 5: run a little contest for the fans where they can 1370 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,400 Speaker 5: hop on the website and choose, will narrow down the 1371 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 5: selection to whatever fifty or one hundred that we like, 1372 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,599 Speaker 5: and then then our fans can hop on the web 1373 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 5: page and vote, and those the ones that that get 1374 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,719 Speaker 5: the most votes will end up in the calendar. 1375 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,759 Speaker 3: And this is an example of a fucked up old truck, 1376 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 3: and you can tell that it's actually in pretty good shape, 1377 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:30,920 Speaker 3: but it's got a lot of character. 1378 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,400 Speaker 5: Yes, it's yea an example to chop down suburban I 1379 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 5: believe if you would like an insane conversation about the 1380 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 5: parameters of this prompt, please listen to Monday's Oh Yeah. Next, 1381 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,960 Speaker 5: we're telling Steve and I how to make the calendar 1382 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,639 Speaker 5: that Steve and I are making that great. 1383 01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:53,800 Speaker 2: I wasn't telling you make the calendar. Well, gang, it's 1384 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,800 Speaker 2: been fun and we're running a little over time, So 1385 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,719 Speaker 2: with that, I think we will bid you ado. Thanks 1386 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,360 Speaker 2: for tuning in, and we'll see you here next week 1387 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 2: live for media to HQ. Signing off,