1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're now on from one to four. It's been 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: a week already over a week. If you weren't aware 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: of that, well we're telling you. And if you can't 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: listen to us live between one and four, you can 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: pick us up on the podcast at KFI AM six 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: forty dot com. It's easy to find on the John 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: and Kent page or use the iHeartRadio app. Same thing. 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: We got words, John, We still got words coming up 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: in about fifteen minutes. Another keyword. You follow the instructions 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: and you have a shot at a thousand dollars. You're 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: in KFI with their cash refill contest. As you know, 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: the state of California likes to be a leader, often 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: in bad ideas. Under a new state regulation, thirty five 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: percent of the new twenty twenty six car model sold 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: in California must be zero emissions, and in twenty thirty 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: five that will be one hundred percent. The next sentence 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: in this story from kl Matters is powering the vehicles 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: means the state must triple the amount of electricity produced 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: and deploy new solar and wind energy at almost five 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: times the pace of the past decade. Yeah, does anybody 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: hear that? And not go Are you kidding me? Well, 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: it's impossible. All this is impossible. And as we go 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: through the list of things that California would have to do, yes, 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: keep in mind three words high speed rail. Remember they've 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: gone fifteen years now and not laid down an inch 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: of high speed railtrack fifteen years. And when you see 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: what they're supposed to the kind of infrastructure that they're 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: supposed to build and build fast, you really, you really 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: wonder is this all just you know, a grand virtue signaling. Oh, 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: it's like saying, well, we did something, but maybe we'll 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: never do it, but so what we said we would. 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: These were our intentions, These were our aspiration, and they're 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: good intent shouldn't right, This is what virtue signaling is, right, Well, 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: just symbolic intentions, because the next paragraph is good too. 35 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: The California Aversources Board enacted the mandate last August, and 36 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: just six days later, California's power good was so taxed 37 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: by heat waves that an unprecedented ten day emergency alert 38 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: warn residents to cut electricity use er face outages. And 39 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: we only have what one percent of the state electric 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: cars two percent maybe or at that time we did Yeah, 41 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: what what's the thirty five percent in twenty twenty six. 42 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six is now just three years away. Where's 43 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: the market for this? Who are the market is growing? 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: Last year, seventeenth percent of the new car sales were 45 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: evs in the state. That's a big jump, But that 46 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: is more because of gas prices and people's reaction to them. 47 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, and you'll also have its mostly wealthier people 48 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: who can afford these things. I'm looking now car ads 49 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: have returned to TV and they're they're almost all evs now, 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: so they must be somewhat more affordable because you can't 51 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: reach the average consumer by advertising price evs. A lot 52 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: of the car companies beyond Tesla now are offering electric vehicles. 53 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: I didn't look up the prices. I can't say they're 54 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: probably they're obviously cheaper than gas, more expensive than gas 55 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: powered cars. But but the idea must be they must 56 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: not be completely out of reach of most buyers. But 57 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: the thing is there's nowhere to charge these cars. I mean, 58 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: I can't get my mind around this. People, for example, 59 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: who live in apartments, where are they going to plug 60 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: it in? There's no charging stations at people's workplaces. This 61 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: idea that everybody is going to conform and we're all 62 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: going to charge you certain hours of the day or night. Well, 63 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: we're going to be able to live our lives freely 64 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: without restrictions. You can't with an electric car, not the 65 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: way the system is set up. Now. They have hardly 66 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: any charging stations in the country. Now they're claiming. The 67 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: California Energy Commission says, actually, the power used during peak 68 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: hours by EV charging is only one percent. It'll jump 69 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: to five percent to twenty thirty and then ten percent 70 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: in twenty three. We have a zero percent margin of error. 71 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: During those hot times, we have no margin of error. 72 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: So ten percent is the same as one tenth to 73 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: one percent. It's beyond the electrical grids capabilities. Now, now, 74 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: where's the things they have to do. They have to 75 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: convince drivers to charge their cars during off peak hours. 76 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: So no charging between four pm and nine pm. Well, 77 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: you're not going to convince me to do that. A 78 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: lot of people might come home from work and say 79 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: my car needs to charge, I'm all out, and they 80 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: might want to plug it in. No, you have to 81 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: wait till after nine. But why do I want to 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: trade in the freedom to go to a gas station 83 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day for this idea that I 84 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: have to charge between four and nine. What if I 85 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: want to drive somewhere between four and nine. I can't 86 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: accept both. Did you look at the chart? It is 87 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: a lot cheaper to charge your car than to gas 88 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: up your car. Did you see the comparison? I did. 89 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: But they're gonna they're gonna try to coerce you by 90 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: charging outrageous prices outside of there. Well, then you just 91 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: have to charge to charge your car off peak. But 92 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: why do I want to do that? I go to 93 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: the gas station. You don't want to pay the high 94 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: price they're selling. But look at the difference a Tesla 95 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: Model three sixty five dollars to drive a thousand miles 96 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: in a Toyota Camera two hundred and thirty five dollars 97 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: you have to pay in gas. That's what's motivating some 98 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: people to switch over to electric except a big different. 99 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna jack up the electricity prices, I know, but 100 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: not to not to that extreme, but to be two 101 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: thirty four to sixty five. I don't think it's Look 102 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: look how quickly the electricity prices have gone up, and 103 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: there's going to be a shortage of electricity. What happens 104 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: when you have a shortage of anything, the prices go up. 105 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: They're going to constantly be in a minute minute elating 106 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: the prices to try to get us not to use 107 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: electricity during those peak hours right right four to nine. Well, again, 108 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: what some people will just put up with it. They'll 109 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: charge the car after nine earlier. There's always some people 110 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: that will, but I'm talking to the vast majority of people. 111 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: It's making life inconvenient and annoying, really inconvenient and annoying. Well, 112 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: I just don't think these car companies would be building 113 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: all these evs and running all these ads if they 114 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: didn't think there was a market for what if they 115 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: were surprised, if they could be wrong. They could be wrong. 116 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: But this is different than anything I've seen before, because 117 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: you and I have seen this push for evs before 118 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: and it didn't succeed. They have to build solar and 119 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: wind at an unprecedented pace. Shifting to all renewables requires 120 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: at least six gigawatts of new resources a year for 121 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: the next twenty five years. That's a pace that's never 122 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: been met before. Okay, so since they can't build everything 123 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: fast enough, what's going to happen when they're this constant 124 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: electricity shortage. It's going to be in the news. So 125 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: why people will go back to gas cars? Well, if 126 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: he comes too much of a pain, yes, Well, there's 127 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are going to wait, if 128 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: they're smart, until the electrical grid is built. They have 129 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: to build fifteen times more public chargers. About one point 130 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: two million charges will be needed for the eight million 131 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: electric cars expected in the state by twenty thirty. Currently 132 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: there's eighty thousand statewide. There's eighty thousand. They need one. Well, again, 133 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: I ask, so who's going to jump in and do this. 134 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna wait until everything's built. But everything is never 135 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: going to get built because you're dealing with unrealistic goals here, 136 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: and you're dealing with the state of California, which again 137 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: can't build a reservoir, can't build high speed rail. I know, 138 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: but you know, in the battle between convenience and price, 139 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are going to move 140 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: towards price, and I think that was born out last 141 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: year with the seventeen percent of car sales being evs. 142 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: They're looking at these gas prices and that's the plan 143 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: they're happy that your gas prices are very high in 144 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: California will continue to go high because they want you 145 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: to consider something else. They want you to stop driving 146 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: a gas powered car. So what are they going to 147 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 1: start at two dollars attacks to the gas there? Well, 148 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: we talked about this so much last year that because 149 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: they have limited so much of oil and gas development 150 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: in the state, that's curtailed the supply, and if that continues, 151 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: this price is just going to go up again. Now 152 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: we've we've dropped a few a bit in the last 153 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: couple of months, but they think, I don't think five 154 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: dollars a gallon's going over. Nobody finds this ridiculously obnoxious 155 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: and oppressive and something to vote against, something to drive 156 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: these people out of office. This is all unnecessary. The 157 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: other forty nine states aren't doing this. No, the other 158 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: forty nine states are enjoying gasoline that's like two eighty 159 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: a gallon. So what are we dealing with all these complications? 160 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: It's like, well, you could charge between four o'clock at 161 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: nine o'clock. Well, I don't want to f you. What 162 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: do you tell are you constantly telling me what to do? 163 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: Will you get you? Oh? Well, we're going to charge 164 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: you eight dollars a gallon? What's the point of living here? Then? Really, 165 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: what is the point of living in the state of 166 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: California when there's forty nine states that'll let you drive 167 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: a gas powered car for two eighty eight a gallon? Yah? See, 168 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: here's the point for pg ANDE customers. Charging an electric 169 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: car when rates are low US between midnight and three 170 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: PM is like paying two dollars for a gallon of gas. 171 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: That's their selling point if it stays there. Remember the 172 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: promise they made to solar panel people who put solar 173 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: panels on their roof. Oh yeah, right, that they were 174 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: going to be able to sell the excess energy back 175 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: to the state to the state, Right, and what did 176 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: they do this year? They got rid of that deal? 177 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: All right? Coming up next, I don't know why anybody 178 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: would trust them. The people are meeting in Davos, Switzerland. 179 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: It's largely to be avoided, but there is one speaker 180 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: that we're going to play what he had to say 181 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: because it was exactly about what we're talking about electric 182 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: cars and the materials they need for those cars. Particularly. 183 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: Oh look at that. My co host Cobalt, John A. 184 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: Ken show KFIAM six forty. The keyword is next live 185 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: everywhere the iHeartRadio app. All right, well, we have this 186 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: wealthy gathering in Davo, Switzerland, the World Economic Forum, which 187 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: brings together the billionaires along with some political leaders to 188 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: discuss all of the world's problems, of which I don't 189 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: recall anything ever coming out of this that mattered. But 190 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: it's one thing too. We went through this yesterday. It's 191 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: there are There was one hooker who was interviewed. Yes, 192 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: but there's a hundred hookers there. That was according to 193 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: a report from twenty twenty. Yes, yes, well yeah, they're 194 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: they're back. It's good money anyway. There is one piece 195 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: of audio worth playing. Since we were just talking about 196 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: California's attempt to get us all to drive electric vehicles. 197 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: That discussion, of course, was the strain on the power 198 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: grid in California. We'll be able to hold up. This 199 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: is about another aspect of evs, and that's the minerals 200 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: required to make the batteries and the cars. One of 201 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: the big ones is John Cobalt, because I just like 202 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: saying that his name is similar to the material called cobalt. 203 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: Cob Yes, you spell the material we don't know how 204 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: you spell your name, but sure nobody does. There's too many, 205 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: too many consonants. And anyway, we have talked before that 206 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: there is not a lot of this material. It's tough 207 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: to get. There are consequences. Here is a speaker at 208 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: the World Economic Forum, and of course one of the 209 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: other things they're talking about at this forum is climate. 210 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: That's why John Kerry's there. I'm surprised Scar said he 211 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: didn't go there just because he loves climate discussions. The 212 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: Welcome Trust Director for Climate and Health, Alan Deng Gore 213 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: once to talk and did talk about cobalt mining. Let's listen, 214 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: we mine for cobalt, and we don't recognize that cobalt 215 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: mining has a catastrophic impact. If it's if it's you know, 216 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: local cobalt mining, well, even if it's a large scale 217 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: cobalt mining is really horrific. There is now very nice evidence, 218 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: in fact on the impact it has on the health 219 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: of women and children especially. It has substantial negative impacts 220 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: on the fetal growth and fetal health. So that's evidence 221 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: that's relatively new and relatively recently identified. So the reason 222 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying is is there are trade offs here so 223 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: you could go down the line and cobalt mine and 224 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: move the community out, and that would be horrific, and 225 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: there would be all sorts of problems, of course, but 226 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: without that data, you can't you know, understanding the broader 227 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: impacts of what we're trying to achieve, understanding bio diversity, 228 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: of understanding health impacts. Bringing all of that evidence together, 229 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: it's very difficult to make the right choice. And we 230 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: needed that evidence so in order to make sure that 231 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: when we leave with our heart, we have evidence supports 232 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: and there listening to this all week and lead with 233 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: my heart, you'd well, this is a guy trying to 234 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: walk the fine line because he's about climate we need 235 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: to move towards dvs. But he's torn a bit because 236 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: there are consequences to mining cobalts. Okay, look, these people 237 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: are phonies that we the cobalt mines that are owned 238 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: by China in Africa, in the Congo for example. There 239 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: they're the employees are African slaves. They're absolutely treated like slaves. 240 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: And eventually I want to see if this particular fact 241 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: starts making all the progressives feel guilty because because often 242 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: they'll they'll suddenly jump to a new trendy human rights 243 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: issue if you know, you notice that suddenly there's an 244 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: issue and everybody believes it the same day. I'm waiting 245 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: for this one to jump because if you if you 246 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: actually saw any video or film of the horrific working 247 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: conditions that these African women and children have to have 248 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: to work under, it's it's just too I thought it 249 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: was just the man. No, no, no, no, it's it's 250 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: a lot of women and children. I saw a film 251 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: on this because he said that they suffer the worst, 252 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: and I thought, why because they're actually working in the mines, 253 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: and you say they are, They are working in the minds, 254 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: and they're working for almost no money. The Chinese business 255 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: executives treat them horrifically. I mean, this is really going back, 256 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, two hundred years in human development, and there 257 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: is a tremendous amount of cobalt dust in the air, 258 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: and it not only affects the miners, but it affects 259 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: the people in the nearby villages. See them put present 260 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: of the Republic of the Congo. So at this Wall 261 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: Street Journal from article from twenty eighteen, And you're right, 262 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: they're in there. They have to dig by hand. Oh yeah, 263 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: they used picked shovels and bare hands to unearth rocks 264 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: rich with the metal. Oh yeah, this is like the 265 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: Egyptian slaves who built the pyramids. There is a high 266 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: injury and high fatality rate. They're breathing in all this 267 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: toxic dust. It's affecting the villages. But the president of 268 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: the Republic of Congo, when he cut a deal with China, 269 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: he said, here, have at the minerals, and the Chinese said, 270 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: will build roads and schools for you and so, and 271 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: this guy was terribly corrupt, and so he went for 272 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: the deal, sold out his own people, and they get 273 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: next to nothing. This is dollar a day stuff. This 274 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: is because that's what the Chinese do back in their 275 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: home country too. Right, all the people making apple products 276 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: are get almost nothing now, so we can have cheap 277 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: phones and cars, right, and you need cobalt to make 278 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: the phones and the iPads as well, you do, yes, 279 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: So not to mention the terrible environmental destruction that's going 280 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: on in these countries. And I'm just thinking, how we 281 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean, how big a phony are these progressives? What 282 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: size phony are they? Because eventually, and I don't know 283 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: that's why you said something like there's a trade off there. Well, 284 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: there's a trade off there. We might get cleaner air, 285 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: less climate change problems, but we'll kill all these people 286 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: in the right. They're gonna die of terrible diseases. They're 287 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: probably gonna end up with some version of black lung, 288 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: like the coal miners in West Virginia get and and 289 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's just unbelievably a messy, dirty process. 290 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: And also also you could buzz around in your super 291 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: cool electric vehicle. It's really unconstable and so sore. I 292 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: don't I get so aggravated and listening to these preening, 293 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: pompous progressives when they carry on about the injustices here 294 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: in America and they drive around in their electric car 295 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: and the terrible degradation of human beings in the congo. 296 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: It's just and they must know about it by now. 297 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: They should know about it. I mean, The New York 298 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Times a year or two ago did a very long 299 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: story on it, complete with photos. And it's cobalt and 300 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: the congo. Oh, it's just no, it is brutal. It 301 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: is brutal, beyond your imagination. There's a film and I 302 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: don't remember the guy who did it. But I went 303 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: to a film festival a couple of years ago and 304 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: this was one of the featured films. And I believe 305 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: he was in Ethiopia, maybe the Congo. Anyway, he took 306 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: film of the mining workers and how terribly abused they were, 307 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: and they were just these downtrodden women and children who 308 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: have no other source of income. It's like it's like 309 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: being in China. These people work for a dollar a 310 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: day because they have to. 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There is the 327 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: family of an Orange County public defender, a deputy public 328 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: defender who would doubt the story coming from Mexican officials. 329 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: This man, Elliott Blair, went to Mexico with his wife 330 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: to celebrate their first wedding anniversary. This is in Baja 331 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: California section of Mexico, and he died. The official word 332 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: is that he fell from the third floor balcony of 333 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: the Las Rocous Resort and Spa in Rosarito Beach. However, 334 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: this is where the story begins to divide. The official 335 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: word from investigators in Mexico is that he fell a 336 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: tragic accident. The family thinks it was a murder, and 337 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: it's gotten difficult because they're talking about cremating his body. Supposedly, 338 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: the family says Mexican officials urged them repeatedly to cremate 339 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: the body. They have rejected that because they want their 340 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: own autopsy and investigation to see whether or not their 341 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: belief that he was murdered, is correct. The Baja California 342 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: States Attorney General labeled it an unfortunate accident and say 343 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: it's probably because he had consumed a lot of alcohol. Apparently, 344 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: the family says it actually they believe that he was 345 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: probably pushed not from the balcony of the hotel room, 346 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: but some sort of outer hallway area which was kind 347 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: of open air, and there's also some sort of railing 348 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: there too. Well, what does the Mexican government care? Just 349 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: release the body and let the family do its own. Well, 350 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: they they, but here's a difference. If they believe it's 351 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: a murder, Mexico is not going to do anything to 352 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: investigate who killed this man. That's the problem the family has. 353 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: They want to write this off as an accident and 354 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: say see you later. Here's the body. Go, well, how 355 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: are you going to argue with the Mexican government. Well, 356 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: they're trying to make a public case out of this. 357 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: So there's enough objection raised, maybe through diplomatic channels, that 358 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: they need to take a closer look at what happened. 359 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: They're saying that the country's government is so messed up, 360 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 1: it's so corrupt, it's so run by the drug cartels. 361 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean complaining to them, you should just take the 362 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: body back to America, do the autopsy here or the 363 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: toxicology here, and andy bury the guy. But arguing with 364 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: the Mexican government, you're never going to get anywhere. I 365 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: think they think if he was murdered, they'd like to 366 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: find who did it, just to work in the legal profession, 367 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: So that's probably important to them. Yeah, but the government 368 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: is trying to get them to burn the body. So 369 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: what does that tell you? Well, that's why they're suspicious, right, 370 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: It's like a cover up. Yeah, well exactly. That means 371 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: why the why would the government tell him to cremate 372 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: the man? And I don't not even understand that. Now. 373 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: The family says he's folk fluent Spanish, he was familiar 374 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: with the hotel's layout. They say that he didn't fall 375 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: from a balcony, but this open air walkway outside the 376 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: room's front door, which I described a moment ago. He 377 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: was found in his underwear, a T shirt, he slept in, 378 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: in socks. That's what they found. What I wonder is, 379 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: what does the wife have to say, wasn't she there? 380 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: You don't see much on that, No, I don't. I 381 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: don't hear the family explaining how he would end up 382 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: out there in his underwear. And I don't see anything 383 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: as to how much alcohol he had in his system, 384 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: if any. Yeah, they claim that a full autopsy will 385 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: the family's claiming he was not drunk. And what you 386 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: don't know is what kind of weird situations people get into. 387 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, people do you know, indulge in 388 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: drugs and so was it some kind of you know, 389 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: drug contact that that that you know, I had a 390 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: bad disagreement with. I mean, it was the stake in identity. 391 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: That can happen too, But it looks like the government's 392 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: not interested in finding out which is really suspicious. Well, 393 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: maybe it's some sort of compromise story where maybe he 394 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: was a bit drunk and for some reason he wandered 395 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: outside and got into some dispute with somebody who threw 396 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: him over the railing. I don't know. That's what the 397 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: family just wants the answers. They're claiming he wasn't drunk 398 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: at the time, and we don't know. Of course, the 399 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: Mexican authorities are saying there was a substantial amount of 400 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: alcohol in his body. See, but I'd like to hear 401 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: the wife apparently is also a public defender. I'd like 402 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: to hear what she says and what she knows. The 403 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: wife is Kimberly Williams. Wasn't she around? I would think? So? 404 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: They went there to celebrate their first wedding anniversary. Was 405 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: she not in the hotel room with them when he 406 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: fell off the balcony? And if he didn't fall off 407 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: the balcony, does she remember him going into the hallway 408 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: and encountering someone who threw him off the balcony and 409 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: his underwear in his underwear? Was there a knock at 410 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: the door, which God and whoever it was, came to 411 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: the wrong door, and stead you were sent to kill somebody? 412 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: And just I don't know what would get somebody to 413 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: throw this person off of balcony. What kind of dispute 414 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: could that possibly be? That's why I thought mistaken identity. 415 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: This is somebody hired to carry out some sort of 416 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: murder and try to make it look like an accident, 417 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: so you don't shoot him or stab him, but you 418 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: push him off of balcony to his death. We'll see 419 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: what happens to this poor family as they try to 420 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: figure out what really happened to this man. More coming 421 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: up John and Ken kf I Am six forty Live Everywhere, 422 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app coming up after three o'clock. It's already 423 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: a flop. This idea that people would be able to 424 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: divide up their lots and build duplexes and single family 425 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: home properties is not getting much reaction from people around 426 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: the stable to talk about that after the news at 427 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: three o'clock, and will tell you that La County claims 428 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: it did grab a lot of dirty storm water during 429 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: the recent rains. This is coming up in the Big 430 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: three o'clock hour long with of course, another keyword, your 431 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: chance to win some money in the CAFI Cash refill contest. Well, 432 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: this rarely happens, but a polar bear killed two people 433 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: in Alaska. You know, reports of polar bear attacks are 434 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: so rare that a study from eighteen seventy to twenty 435 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: fourteen that's a lot of years seventy three attacks by 436 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: wild polar bears, that's how rare they are. And well, 437 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: because you're not supposed to there's hardly any people who 438 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: live where a polar bear is. Yeah, we're talking about Canada, Greenland, Norway, 439 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: Russia and the US twenty fatality sixty three injuries from 440 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: those attacks. But you'll like the next paragraph, John, climate change, 441 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: melting ice, polar bears are coming into more contact with 442 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: human beings. Oh stuffing, jeez, is racism in there too? 443 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: More encounters? Apparently this was a very small Alaskan village 444 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: and a woman and a child were ripped up by 445 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: this polar Well, what are the exact circumstances where they 446 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: where they walking? Alaska Town of Whales. Were they walking 447 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: down the street and the polar bear was hiding behind 448 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: a lamppost? And I'm not so sure there was a street. 449 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: This is a tiny remote community in Alaska. Well, yeah, 450 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: maybe maybe the community shouldn't be there. Uh, well, it's 451 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: probably their native lands. It may have been there for generations. Yeah, 452 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: but the polar bear has been there longer. When when 453 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: when animals attack you is because you are living in 454 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: their environment. But we have such narcissism in our species 455 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: that we think wherever we create a community, it's now 456 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: everybody else is off limits, and when animals come after us, 457 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: it's an outside attack and the bear must be killed, 458 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: or the coyote must be killed, or it's like no, 459 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: the coyote and the bear. We infringed on them. We 460 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: should be eaten for infringing on them. M I thought 461 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: you felt differently with the mountain lion situation eating the chihuahuas. Yeah, 462 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: oh no, no, Well, we have to live somewhere, and 463 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: if they come into our territory, they can't say it's 464 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: not our territory nothing. You always know we're the intruders. Well, 465 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: now you sound like those activists who want us out 466 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: of the United States because we took land from the 467 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: people that lived here before us. Except now you want 468 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: to leave all the lands of the animals. Except the 469 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: natives also intruded on America as well. They came originally 470 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: from across the Bearing Straits. So no people then, because 471 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: people are intruding on animal lands everywhere. No, we can intrude. 472 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: But the price you pay is a bear is gonna 473 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: eat you once in a while. Then I kill the bear, 474 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: can I know? Well why not? If he's gonna eat me, 475 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: why can't I kill him at self defense? You're not. 476 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: You're no, because we're trespassing. You can kill a trespasser. 477 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: We can live together, but you have to recognize, like 478 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: the but I can kill something that's going to kill me. 479 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: That's basic self defense. Not if you're a trespasser, you 480 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: have to take the If the polar bear gets to change, 481 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: you put him on trial. Yeah, you could say that 482 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,479 Speaker 1: he's allowed to kill a trust bow. You're not supposed 483 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: to kill trustpassers. That's a little risk. Sho. No, no, no, no. 484 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: You're supposed to charge them with trustpassing and put them 485 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: through the legal system. Not oh oh, I gotta remember 486 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: that in another attack case, completely different. But really, I 487 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: have never seen anything like this in all the stories 488 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: of kidnapping and let's say drive through window encounters, you 489 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: know when you go to a fast food restaurant or 490 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: in this case it's a Starbucks. Police in Washington State 491 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: arrested a man because apparently when he was at the 492 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: drive through window and the worker it's a woman, who 493 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 1: was giving him change, he reaped out and grabbed her 494 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: and tried to drag her into his car and take her. 495 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: He was holding a looped zip tie device, which would 496 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: indicate he was serious about running off with this Starbucks 497 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: worker he dragged through the drive through window, which, by 498 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: the way, there's video of. They have all sorts of 499 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: camera set up at these drive throughs because of what 500 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: can happen? Is this guy not wearing a shirt? Well, no, 501 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: I think he is. He's got tattoos, but I think 502 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: it's a light colored shirt. Okay, you see the wrinkles 503 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: in it on his top left arm. Black and white photos. Yeah, 504 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't work as well as looking at it director, Now, 505 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: it looks like he's a light colored shirt on. It's 506 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: kind of a heavy, sort of semi bearded guy. He's 507 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: got a tattoo and hiss a forearm that reads Chevrolet. 508 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: Oh is that what he tried? So he yanks her 509 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: arm back and shuts the window. He reaches his arm 510 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: out again and then he drives away and he left 511 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: the change on the ground. But you're right, he is 512 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: a unique tattoo that reads Chevrolet. But did they have 513 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: arrested him? All right? What drug was he on? The 514 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: answer to everything is what drug is the guy on? 515 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: That explains all this behavior? They I'm looking at the video. 516 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: Now have you actually seen the video? No, I've just 517 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: got the photos. Oh, okay, they released the video of him. 518 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: She's reaching out with like a one dollar bill and 519 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: he grabs her right arm and then he's got this 520 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: zip tie in his other hand, and he started to 521 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: try to attach it to her, but she pulled back 522 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: really quickly. I mean, what kind of a weirdo tries 523 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: to kidnap a woman working in a drive through window Starbucks. 524 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: That's what Sheriff Bianco said. He said, almost every single 525 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: case they have where where a guy is acting irrationally 526 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: and violently right towards the police or two people in 527 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: his home, almost every case it's either drugs or boost 528 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: because when your brain is at rest, right, Yeah, then 529 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna act somewhat normally. You're not gonna do something extreme. 530 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: You're not You're not gonna attack somebody violently. You're you're 531 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna respond properly. This is all drugs. 532 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: Pulling up, pulling up. I hate that word. Barista. It's 533 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: just a Starbucks worker. Yeah, it's just a cash year 534 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: or cash year, right, the woman to work on the 535 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: drive through window, a server, A server right now, A barista? 536 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: Yea store as being some sort of fancy's educated trained worker. 537 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: I know, I'm a licensed barista. Is that next? Is great? 538 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: You go ahead, you pay off your college loan with that. Yeah, 539 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: you're probably right there, probably was some sort of drug 540 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: and due state where he just got wild enough to say, 541 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna go to the Starbucks and 542 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: drag me a woman out of the window. What would 543 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: it take to get you worked up enough to drag 544 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: a woman through a drive through wind through windows? Right? 545 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean, she's not going to resist when she fit. 546 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: But the fact that he had to zip tide tells 547 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: me that that's really what he planned to do because 548 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: he wanted to restrain her. He had a whole evening 549 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: in front of him. Yeah, I guess he did a 550 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: little coffee and a lady through the window. That's right, 551 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: Tie her up, throw her in the back seat, take 552 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: her home, all right. When we return, we talked about 553 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: this a lot where they were working on passing. It 554 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: was one of these bills in Sacramento to get more 555 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: housing in the state, and this was to allow people 556 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: to convert their homes into duplexes on a single family lot, 557 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: or to divide the whole land and half and build 558 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: it on a duplex for four units. Well, it's flopped, 559 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: which is nice. We'll talk about that and more. Johnny 560 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: ken caf I A M six forty live everywhere the 561 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app and Jeffrey Mark Lyden at twenty four our 562 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: Cafine newsroom