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Speaker 4: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 4: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, July eighteenth. We're

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Speaker 4: here in the Classic Factory.

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Speaker 1: I'm J.

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Speaker 4: Skeets and alongside me as always, Tass.

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Speaker 1: Mellis Podcast listeners. Great to see you again.

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Speaker 4: Back from Sunny Florida. Top shot hot Boy Trey Kirby,

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Speaker 4: your NBA questions too, No dunks at the Athletic dot Com.

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Speaker 4: We got a lot of new podcasts for you this week.

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Speaker 4: No Buns coming at you again on Wednesday. You got

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Speaker 1: I'm excited Dangers All Star Game as well. Kenny Beacham

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Speaker 4: So that's that is an action packed No Buns here.

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Speaker 4: You got Kenny Beacham, you got Trey and then you

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Speaker 4: be doing film session for the Rise movie, the Jannie

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Speaker 1: It is strange how they got there, but I do

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Speaker 3: Basically getting those Dort dollars. Yeah, so I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 6: Definitely sticker shock, just like with Dort seeing eighty million dollars.

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Speaker 6: And like you said, Skeets, he was really solid last year,

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Speaker 6: a great deal to have him on. So nice stuff

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Speaker 1: Great name, Keldon, great player, great contract, and very well

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Speaker 1: liked in USA Basketball's program. Yeah, seems to be a

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Speaker 1: for it. Took a step back by trading to john

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Speaker 4: I think he could be a sneaky pick for most improved,

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Speaker 4: he said, like averaging like twenty two per game, you

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Speaker 4: and I think you're right task. I think they're going

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Speaker 4: Apparently Josh Richardson's on the block. Anybody can have him

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Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell Nick's Jazz Trade talks?

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 4: Testinited like forty five minutes on it.

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Speaker 3: Did you oh yeah, yeah, driving driving in the car?

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Speaker 4: What do you what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's like they.

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Speaker 6: Were watching sing too, you know, so they like system

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Speaker 4: So what about Jan's sons were doing chop Su my.

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Speaker 3: New favorite band in the Decatur area.

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Speaker 5: Come on, yeah, ruddy, you have no idea how long

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Speaker 5: Rachel and I tried to talk them out of that

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Speaker 5: You know, we're pitching other names, like what about what

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Speaker 1: But yeah, they killed it. It was a good time.

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Speaker 4: What else did they do?

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Speaker 5: They did Porcelain by the Red Hot Chili Pets. They

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Speaker 5: about it. He was singing, this was very high. I

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Speaker 1: And yeah, they love it. They turn that around in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, four days, four songs.

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Speaker 5: Amazing, four songs in four days. Yeah. The bass player

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Speaker 4: I would like describe I don't even know.

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Speaker 5: It was like rating my dead grandfather's cruise.

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Speaker 5: Who was eight hundred pounds. It's uh yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: Is why I was confused. I was like, is this

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Speaker 5: A guy like on his knees pretending to be a

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Speaker 4: Uh they're talented.

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Speaker 5: This Friday they did they're doing it again. So this

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Speaker 5: My kids they split up. Oh no, they're like, god, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So they split the band. Name that one great question.

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Speaker 1: We'll find that.

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Speaker 3: We will find that.

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Speaker 5: The other thing is that that this band a lot

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Speaker 5: this week because mandatory practice for marching bands.

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Speaker 3: The last week in July.

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Speaker 4: Wow, they take it serious.

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Speaker 5: They take it very seriously here, so there are no horns.

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Speaker 5: So this week I think the horns are back. I'm

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Speaker 5: I was like pitching careless Whisper. Then then there were

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Speaker 4: So they're like, it doesn't hit quite the same.

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Speaker 5: Rachel and I are insufferable just pitching music at these

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Speaker 4: All right, okay, how did we get onto that? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: He loves he loves system of it down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's how we got there. What do you

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Speaker 6: felt like that for a while, So I guess we

440
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Speaker 6: just need to decide what they're willing to give up,

441
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Speaker 6: because they're clearly in the lead. I think Fred Katz

442
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Speaker 6: broke it down as saying they basically have eight first

443
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Speaker 6: round picks, which they could change. That's a huge number,

444
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Speaker 6: and as Fred mentions, you basically get to keep one

445
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Speaker 6: thing from your team, like the Jazz are gonna take

446
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Speaker 6: every little bit every asset you have except for one thing.

447
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Speaker 6: And it kind of feels like maybe they'll actually get

448
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Speaker 6: to keep r. J. Barrett because Quentin Grunts seems to

449
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Speaker 6: be more of the target for Utah. So I guess

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Speaker 6: we're kind of just waiting to see if the Knicks

451
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Speaker 6: are gonna have a chance at Kevin Durant and then

452
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Speaker 6: they would move to Donovan Mitchell. I think I think

453
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Speaker 6: once it comes time to talk actual trades with the Jazz,

454
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Speaker 6: they gotta go after Jared Vanderbilt as well, get him

455
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Speaker 6: as a throw in, like you guys were talking about

456
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Speaker 6: last week. They're gonna need somebody who doesn't need the

457
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Speaker 6: ball and can play some defense out on the perimeter.

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Speaker 6: That would be a nice thing. So Knicks makes the

459
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Speaker 6: most sense to me. I don't know if it's the

460
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Speaker 6: smartest move to roll out two six one dudes as

461
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Speaker 6: you as your backcourt. That being said, it feels like

462
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Speaker 6: Mitchell and the Knicks are a match made in New York.

463
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Speaker 4: And we saw Grimes and I guess uh McBride balling

464
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Speaker 4: at Summer League. They got to the finals, lost to

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Speaker 4: the Blazers. Compared to the Blazers on their championship at

466
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Speaker 4: some got the rings and everything.

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Speaker 1: The Blazers they shut down, Grimes, they went after double.

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Speaker 3: Teams don't come to the Western conferences.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, stay over there in the East. Yeah, But

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Speaker 4: any other thoughts on on Mitchell happening? Is it just

471
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Speaker 4: like at this point, it's like how many picks are

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Speaker 4: they willing to depart with? And then yeah, is topping

473
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Speaker 4: in there as quickly in there as crimes in there?

474
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Speaker 4: Like how many of these young players? Is that where

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Speaker 4: we're at here?

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Speaker 1: It feels like the Knicks have the lead amongst all

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Speaker 1: the teams in terms of their draft capital, and that

478
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Speaker 1: seems like what the Jazz want And yeah, they can

479
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Speaker 1: put it over the top of an RG Beard or

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Speaker 1: maybe they didn't even have to if or maybe the

481
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Speaker 1: Jazz don't want them.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's what people say that they don't want to

483
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Speaker 4: have to pay RJ.

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Speaker 1: Barrett right. Ultimately, Danny wants to, you know, start from

485
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Speaker 1: square one there, Danny Ainge and and Justin Zanik there,

486
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Speaker 1: I suppose, But the Durant issue is is lingering and

487
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Speaker 1: those two are still you know, and they're on different tracks,

488
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Speaker 1: but you know, they're sort of on the on the

489
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Speaker 1: same path. Here kind of feels like Durant has to

490
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Speaker 1: happen first. And I feel like the Nets after trading

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Speaker 1: a first round pick for Roys O'Neil from the Utah Jazz,

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Speaker 1: I feel like, if they could, they would reneg that

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Speaker 1: deal right now. Is there a way they could? Could

494
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Speaker 1: they say, Royce O'Neil's knee isn't that great right now,

495
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Speaker 1: and to take back the first round back. And I

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Speaker 1: bring that back. I bring that up because it almost

497
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Speaker 1: feels like they should be doing what the Jazz are

498
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Speaker 1: doing and just collect picks rather than go for it.

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Speaker 1: And I know they don't have their own picks, so

500
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Speaker 1: but that's a problem. But I do think that we're

501
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Speaker 1: all gonna be underwhelmed in terms of the players that

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Speaker 1: they get back for Kevin Durant. I think we're all

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Speaker 1: just gonna say, and part of it is because we

504
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Speaker 1: saw what Rudy Gobert got and he obviously didn't go

505
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Speaker 1: for a lot a great great names in terms of players.

506
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Speaker 1: But I think we're all just gonna say, that's just

507
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Speaker 1: not a great return for Kevin Durant. I think they

508
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Speaker 1: should they should restart instead of going after it with

509
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Speaker 1: Roy O'Neil. Who's the other support player that they got, TJ. Warren.

510
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Speaker 1: That's a fascinating team there.

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Speaker 4: So you don't think we see a Mitchell trade until

512
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Speaker 4: possibly we know what the hell.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna happen within five minutes of each other. Wow.

514
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Speaker 4: Wow, well that'll be an emergency podcast for sure.

515
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Speaker 3: I hope it happens that way.

516
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Speaker 4: Yeah, will we split it up?

517
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Speaker 6: You think, do its own your own KD podcast, your

518
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Speaker 6: own Donovan Mitchell for the numbers we should.

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Speaker 3: Space hopefully.

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Speaker 4: I just I actually disagree with that. I I I'm

521
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Speaker 4: starting to think too, like more and more that I

522
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Speaker 4: don't know is anything gonna happen with Durant here? Are

523
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Speaker 4: they just gonna like just everybody just relax during the

524
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Speaker 4: summer here and we'll see in trading camp and then we'll, uh,

525
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Speaker 4: we'll do this all over again, whether he's either he's

526
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Speaker 4: then committed to the team they have built or kept

527
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Speaker 4: maybe what's going on with Kyrie who knows, or then

528
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Speaker 4: they look at trading him. But I think that this

529
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Speaker 4: Mitchell thing, I think the deal is definitely in my mind,

530
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Speaker 4: it's been offered, and then you know, Danny Ainge is like, no,

531
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Speaker 4: we want more, give us more and more and more.

532
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Speaker 4: That's a classic age like thing, and that's fine, Like

533
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Speaker 4: what's the real rush for them to be like trading

534
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Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell and it'll just like they'll come to the

535
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Speaker 4: agreement on whatever the players. But really, I've said this

536
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Speaker 4: before to you. I think it's just all picks based.

537
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Speaker 4: That's why I don't think R. J. Barret is gonna

538
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Speaker 4: be in it. Yeah, these young players from the Knicks,

539
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Speaker 4: like some of them are really promising they could turn

540
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Speaker 4: into something special maybe, but I think it's just they

541
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Speaker 4: want all they're probably asking for all eight picks, and

542
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Speaker 4: the Knicks would be silly to go that far. But

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Speaker 4: I mean it's gonna take probably five six, it'll take

544
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Speaker 4: a lot. So what you got for go bear if

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Speaker 4: you're sort of comparing.

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Speaker 6: It to that, So what there was three plus swaps

547
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Speaker 6: for de Jonte Murray, right, Yeah, four plus swaps for

548
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Speaker 6: Rudy Gobert, right, and the pick from the twenty two

549
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Speaker 6: drafts sort of five like st five It seems like

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Speaker 6: a five Mitchell feels like a five to me, and

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Speaker 6: then a six for Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And the only thing that I think would make

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Speaker 1: it happen a little bit faster is if they're talking

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Speaker 1: to the same teams, If Danny Ainge and Sean Marks

555
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Speaker 1: are talking to the same teams and they're trying to

556
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Speaker 1: outbit each other. They're trying to get the thing done.

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Speaker 4: Right right, But like like in the Donovan Mitchell sweepstakes,

558
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Speaker 4: all we really know, okay, the knicks and then the

559
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Speaker 4: Heat's name always come up because it's like, oh, a

560
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Speaker 4: star player is available. You know, pat Riley's gonna try

561
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Speaker 4: and get them, but they just don't have any picks,

562
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Speaker 4: So like, are they just scrambling to try and get

563
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Speaker 4: picks or another team involved and stuff like that. It's possible,

564
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Speaker 4: but like who else is in the Mitchell sweepstakes? Like

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Speaker 4: I've thrown out the Hornets, but we haven't heard any

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Speaker 4: report on that. Like, I think they just have the

567
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Speaker 4: draft capital to make it happen, and I think he'd

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Speaker 4: be a star that they don't usually have to add

569
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Speaker 4: to LaMelo. But are there any other teams I'm missing?

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Speaker 6: I mean, the Nets are sorry hen into the mix.

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Speaker 6: I've seen the Raptors thrown into the mix as well.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of if you're in the Kevin Durant sweepstakes,

573
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Speaker 6: you're in the Donovan Mitchell sweepstakes. Yeah, kind of automatically,

574
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Speaker 6: just because you have the necessary assets to get into it.

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Speaker 6: But it definitely feels like the Knicks are kind of

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Speaker 6: going to be against themselves. We'll see if they actually

577
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Speaker 6: bit against themselves or if this ends up being another

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Speaker 6: one of Danny Ainge's.

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Speaker 3: Almost hasn't trained almost so close. We almost got eight

580
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Speaker 3: first round picks.

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Speaker 4: We'll see. Let's get into the updown report, JD. Okay

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Speaker 4: for thumbs now, we got a new up down more graphic.

583
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Speaker 4: Jad's been busy this weekend. I like that one too, JD.

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Speaker 1: You're on fire.

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Speaker 4: You're on fire man, great?

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Speaker 1: Thanks good?

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Speaker 4: All right, updown report. You guys know how we do

588
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Speaker 4: this thumbs up or thumbs down on these topics. Here

589
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Speaker 4: this first one. Last week, the NBA board of Governors

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Speaker 4: approved a change that will impose a heightened penalty when

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Speaker 4: a defensive player commits a transition takefoul. The offensive team

592
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Speaker 4: will be awarded one free throw, which may be attempted

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Speaker 4: by any player on the offensive team in the game,

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Speaker 4: and they retained possession of the ball. Previously, the penalty

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Speaker 4: for a takefoul was like a common personal foul unless

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Speaker 4: you were in the bonus on the offending player and

597
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Speaker 4: then just sign out for the offensive team. So you're

598
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Speaker 4: getting this free throw now anyone that can take it?

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Speaker 4: Are you up or down on the NBA's harsher penalty

600
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Speaker 4: here for take fowls? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 6: This is an easy up. People have been asking for

603
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Speaker 6: this for years. I think it was Zachlow who said

604
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Speaker 6: this should be called the Jeff van Gundy rule. Maybe

605
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Speaker 6: it was Tom Ziller, one of those Z's, because nobody's

606
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 6: been more vocal about it than Jeff van Gundy. But

607
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Speaker 6: this was something that needed to happen. It's kind of

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Speaker 6: been the case in FOEBA. They've tried it in other

609
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Speaker 6: leagues as well. NBA want the easy route here. I

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Speaker 6: think a real deterrent would be, like you just get

611
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Speaker 6: a straight up free point. You don't even have to

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Speaker 6: make the free throw. We're giving you a point for

613
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Speaker 6: a take foul because players are still going to find

614
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Speaker 6: ways to make it look like you're going for a

615
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Speaker 6: strip or something. You know, these aren't going to be

616
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Speaker 6: blatant take fowls. So yeah, smart move. I don't want

617
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Speaker 6: to give them too much credit. That should have been

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Speaker 6: done quite a while ago. It's like I took out

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Speaker 6: the garbage this morning, nobody cared. You know, that's what's

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Speaker 6: supposed to happen on Monday morning, right, What do you

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Speaker 6: like tasks?

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Speaker 1: Well, I like letter man Kelly Dwyer said it, and

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Speaker 1: I know you threw it out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was tweeting about it. He had a I mean,

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Speaker 4: I can tell you right now he thinks like sort

626
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Speaker 4: of what I mean, he's saying it should be way

627
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: more stricter. So if you really want to get rid

628
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 4: of this, I guess it's gonna change all that much.

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Speaker 4: And what And really it's still like slowing down the game.

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Speaker 4: Like we now we even know the free throw. The

631
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Speaker 4: only person I know excited about that is Lee ellis

632
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Speaker 4: uh and so Kelly wrote in his newsletter the second

633
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 4: arrangement that the NBA should award two foul shots and

634
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 4: the ball to any team fouled intentionally on the break,

635
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Speaker 4: and the NBA should also let play continue after the

636
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 4: transition is sort of occurred.

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00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: I like that, Like that's what they do in football

639
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 4: when you think, like there's a there's a flag thrown

640
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: on the defense, the offense gets a free crack at it,

641
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: like free crack. I mean, you could do that and

642
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 4: then so that you know, obviously keeps the hopefully the

643
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 4: highlight plays common and stuff like that. Like he's just saying,

644
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 4: you go get more aggressive with the with the penalty

645
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 4: that in Kelly's mind, you know this and this doesn't

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Speaker 4: deter the infraction maybe all that much, but we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the fast break. Continuing that that would

648
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: be the primary thing, whether we get one file, two

649
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: foul the ball. It not only happens in football, where

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Speaker 1: like let's say that you know there's a there's an

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Speaker 1: off side quarterback gets a free play, free shot at

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Speaker 1: the end zone. It happens in hockey where there's until

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Speaker 1: the team that you know, maybe infraction touches the puck,

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Speaker 1: the the other team can do whatever the hell they

655
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Speaker 1: want with the puck. Doesn't it happen in soccer too,

656
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: Or there's an offside and it happen.

657
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: Play an advantage that happens in every sport.

658
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: Now why not basketball?

659
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 4: Kelly's right because he's like Kelly wrote, what changed Now

660
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: the point guard walks over to take the friends you know,

661
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: the best shooter on the team goes and takes the point.

662
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 4: I mean it is a point you're giving up. No,

663
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: it is something so will players like, I mean, this

664
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: could be fascinating to see, Like, will they remember this,

665
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 4: you know, because I think it's like second nature a

666
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: lot of time. Totally stop the fast break, just grab

667
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 4: the guy and yeah, now it will cost you in

668
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 4: theory one point. Whoever's that goes in a tempts to

669
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: free throw.

670
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe one points not enough.

671
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: We'll find out.

672
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: They should be able to change it mid season, though,

673
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: which they don't.

674
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: Mid season rules change. They all have the basketball once

675
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: upon its time.

676
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: By the way, under this new rule, teams may commit

677
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 4: a takefowl during the last two minutes of the fourth

678
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 4: quarter and in the last two minutes of any overtime period.

679
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: So you can still do it nice without triggering the

680
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 4: heightened penalty.

681
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: Good for the purists, weird.

682
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 4: I think that would have gone under the radar a

683
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: little bit in the final two minutes. I mean because

684
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: and it's said I did it, Like I was reading

685
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: about it on the NBA site, it said, this exception

686
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: in the final two minutes of the fourth or in overtime.

687
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: This exception will allow the defensive team to use the

688
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: long standing tactic of taking a foul to stop the

689
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: clock during an attempted comeback or prevent the opposing team

690
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 4: from potentially tying the game with a three pointer. So

691
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: I guess that's where. Yeah, so you can still do

692
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: it a little bit. But I think Kelly's right. I

693
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: think they could have been a little more aggressive with this.

694
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 4: But it's a step in the right direction. We'll see,

695
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: all right. Next one. Russell Westbrook in his long time

696
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: agent Wasserman's Thad Fouche, have parted ways. We got some

697
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: agent talk here. In a statement to ESPN, Fouche cited

698
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 4: irreconcilable differences and suggested that there was no longer full

699
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: alignment with Russ. Fouche said he believes Westbrook's best option

700
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: is to stay with the Lakers, embrace the starting role

701
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: and support that Darvin Ham publicly offered the agent he

702
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 4: had statements to Woes at ESPN. Here's what I think

703
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 4: he doesn't think that way. We're parting White. I mean,

704
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: he's been his agent since his entire season or career.

705
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, so I guess the question off this

706
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: is do you think are you up or down on

707
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: Westbrook playing for the Lakers at the start of next season?

708
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: Huge? Down. I don't think he's going to be there.

709
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: By the sounds of this, an agent who had been

710
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: there with Russ his entire career, as he said, made

711
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: lots of money with Russ, comes out and vocally says

712
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: Russ is making a mistake here, just frankly calling him out.

713
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: The fact that he was with him the last three

714
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: off seasons where Russ was traded each and every off season,

715
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: and now breaking with him at this point. I guess

716
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: you could say if you were if you're if you're

717
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: being negative about it, if you you thought that maybe

718
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: he's not gonna get another contract. So what does thatad

719
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: fouche care about about calling him out? But I don't

720
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: think this is good. Thank you for doing the research, by.

721
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 4: The way, well, I mean I think it's fuche.

722
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean it's Canadian influence. Yeah, I was gonna

723
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: go Foucher.

724
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I definitely went with the French angle.

725
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I don't know, no idea anyway to me.

726
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: But he but the fact that he's been with him

727
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: and made so much money with Russell Westbrook and just

728
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: frankly just said no, I'm done with him, just parting

729
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: ways with him. He's essentially saying that Russell Westbrook doesn't

730
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 1: want to do what Darvin Ham said, which is not

731
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: be a superstar anymore, which is play off the ball

732
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: a little bit Russ, playing the dunker spot Russ. Yeah,

733
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: you can initiate the offense a bit, Russ, but you

734
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: got to play defense Russ. So his agents saying he's

735
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: not going to do that. So, yes, it feels like

736
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: he is done with the team. It feels like the

737
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: Lakers do not want to make him a superstar number one,

738
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: And his agent said he doesn't like the idea of

739
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: the Lakers attaching a pick to Westbrook for his you know,

740
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: the rest of his careers, the rest of his value

741
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: for his future contracts, that that would deter how much

742
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: money he's going to make right, So he thought this

743
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: is the best route. I don't want to trade Jeff

744
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: or be involved in it in a fourth consecutive offseason

745
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: where you're dealt And it just feels like, now putting

746
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: all the pieces together, we all thought that Russ you know,

747
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't be up for this, and now now it feels

748
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: like it's absolutely true. Because after the exit interviews where

749
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: he frankly he blamed Frank Vogel for not getting enough

750
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: of an opportunity when he was the starting point guard

751
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: and had plenty of opportunity, just feels like he's not

752
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: going to go out the way Carmela Anthony went out.

753
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: He's going to go you know, more of the iverson

754
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: and that's that's where we are.

755
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: Well, what do you think about all this?

756
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: This is crazy? The agent, Yeah, this is crazy.

757
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 6: You don't see You don't basically see an agent come

758
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 6: out and say thank you for all the money we've

759
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 6: made together. We negotiated some sick ass contracts back in

760
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 6: the day. But you're watching it here and that's basically

761
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 6: what to me, Fad.

762
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: The big food Foch said.

763
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 6: Here, he's saying, if you're not careful, you're gonna turn

764
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 6: into John Wall, your contract right now at least has

765
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 6: more value than John Walls has in the past couple

766
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 6: of years. It's weird to think back that, like three

767
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 6: years ago, we have three terrible contracts, Chris Paul, John Wall,

768
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 6: and Russell Westbrook, and you know we've kind of hit

769
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 6: like the three different levels here. Chris Paul went to

770
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 6: the finals, Westbrook is at least still playing, and now

771
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 6: John Wall is finally gonna be back in the league.

772
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 6: But he's saying, unless you adjust here, things are not

773
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 6: going the way you think they're going. Russell Westbrook, but

774
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 6: it feels to me like Westbrook is not taking his

775
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 6: ex agent's advice. Feels like Westbrook wants out, and clearly

776
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 6: him and Lebron are not on the same page. I mean,

777
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 6: surely things are getting over analyzed with not saying hello

778
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 6: to each other at Summer League. But like Lebron is

779
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 6: friendly with the people who wants to be friendly to

780
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 6: and it's quite obvious when he isn't, and that's when

781
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 6: it means you're gone. So to me, it definitely feels

782
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 6: like Westbrook will be gone before the start of next season.

783
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 4: Well, according to l j Ellis of Spurs Talk, any

784
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: relation to Lee, We'll have to find out Lee Junior. Yeah, exactly,

785
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 4: he says, and he's he's been right about things before.

786
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 4: When it comes to the Spurs. According to his sources,

787
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 4: I guess the trade that is closest to happening involves

788
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: Kyrie being sent to the Lakers and Russell Westbrook being

789
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: routed to the Spurs to facilitate facilitate that trade, source

790
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: of tell me the Spurs want an unprotected first round

791
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 4: pick from the Lakers. That goes to what you were

792
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 4: talking about with san Antonio having space. Hey, we'll take

793
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 4: a bad contract and we'll you give us a pick

794
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: and we'll do that new problem. So that's what l

795
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 4: j elis Spurs talk has.

796
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: It sort of makes sense. Yeah, trade brought up John

797
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: Wall and Chris Paul and those are two guys that

798
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook has been traded for over the last year's.

799
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen it was Chris Paul and three picks for

800
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook. The next year it was John Wall and

801
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: one pick from Russell Russell Westbrook, and then last year

802
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: from the Wizards of the Lakers, it was this whole

803
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: five team jumble, and now it's going the other way.

804
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: I bring up the picks because now you have to

805
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: attach a pick to Russell Westbrook right to get dealt.

806
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, there aren't a lot of teams we're talking

807
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: about the Kyrie Irving sweepstakes that want Kyrie Irving. There's one,

808
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: it sure seems like, But I don't think there are

809
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: any that currently want Russell Westbrook as as their starting guard.

810
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that there is. If it's the Spurs,

811
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: it's it's strictly for dollars and there isn't a deal

812
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: like there was last year. It doesn't feel like where

813
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: the team wants him to be their starting guards. So

814
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: whether it's Thad voucher or a Thad twoche or that,

815
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It's a Thad voucher,

816
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: like you have to you have to, you have to

817
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: take you're asking for a voucher for Russell Westbrook at

818
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: this one.

819
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: Year trade voucher.

820
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, if he if he doesn't Startingham asks it's it's

821
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 6: honestly different.

822
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: I think bad is right on this.

823
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 6: If he plays one season, if if he moves off

824
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 6: the ball, if he cuts, and if he plays defense.

825
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: Right, the value is back. It ain't gonna happen and fad.

826
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, working super closely with Russell Westbrook is

827
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 6: probably like it finally turned around on me. I've seen

828
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 6: this happen with coaches. I've seen this happen with teammates.

829
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 6: I'm finally out.

830
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: I think Thad's just tired of like having to worry

831
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 4: about helping him find a new house and move, like

832
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 4: everyone got to do that. Yeah, this should be his

833
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 4: he Sad should be doing nothing during the summer. I mean,

834
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 4: now he's every time this guy's getting traded. But yeah,

835
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 4: wild to see him, like with that statement saying no you,

836
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: he's basically telling everybody his plans like that he doesn't

837
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 4: want to be there. And I'm with you to us,

838
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty unlikely that he's going to be

839
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 4: playing with Lebron. They're at the start next season. But

840
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 4: where's he gonna go?

841
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: Where is he going to play? Because yeah, the.

842
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 4: Forty seven point one, I think what he'll be making

843
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 4: next to you.

844
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, the return has been picks, picks, and now you

845
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: have to attach a pick for Russell Westbrook. So it's

846
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: it's totally true he should be standing staying there. Voucher

847
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: is correct. Fouche I'm sorry, I don't know.

848
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 4: Nobody knows, all right, next one here in the updown report,

849
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: Old School is back in session. Last week, the Spurs

850
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: unveiled their twenty two twenty three Nike NBA Classic Edition

851
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 4: uniforms that pay homage to the team's storied fifty year legacy. Now,

852
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 4: this iconic uni was made popular by the iceman George Girl.

853
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 4: Oh the iceman got cut off there, Sorry iceman slice man,

854
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 4: Spurs legend George Gervin There, Yeah, rocking those Trey upper

855
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 4: down on the fiftieth anniversary.

856
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: There, These are great, These look awesome. Yeah, very slick.

857
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 6: Hopefully they'll be allowed to wear gold chains just like

858
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 6: George Gervin was there.

859
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: I've got a little concern that the.

860
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 6: Monochrome, you know, like black words, black numbers on a

861
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 6: black jersey. Maybe it doesn't show up great on TV,

862
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 6: but it looks sick. So I kind of think that

863
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 6: the Spurs are moving into their next genre of team,

864
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 6: their next era of team. Greg Popovich won't be there forever.

865
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 6: Kelvin Johnson isn't going to be the high score for

866
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 6: all time. But whenever they finally do get to their

867
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 6: next star, this has to be.

868
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 3: A part of their rebrand. The black on black looks awesome.

869
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 6: We've seen the Fiesta things for the past, you know,

870
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 6: three or four seasons at this point, always a cool look.

871
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 6: But I really like this all dark look here kind

872
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 6: of Johnny Casius.

873
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: I guess he's not technically.

874
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 6: A Spur or a Texan, but feels like it still

875
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 6: feels like it feels like a Texan to me.

876
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: What do you think?

877
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 4: Thumbs up or thumbs down on these.

878
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: Big thumbs up? And it's good to see George Gervin

879
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: back in his slick days. I mean, he's a slick

880
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: looking guy. You know, we had him on our show.

881
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: It's always nice to see them back in their heyday

882
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: rather than.

883
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 4: A picture of them.

884
00:38:54,719 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell you, yeah. I don't know.

885
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: There's no pictures of him up until time.

886
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean they just didn't come up. George

887
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: Gervin is one of those sort of overlooked superstars in

888
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: the game. No, there isn't a new movie called Rise

889
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: about George Gervin about about his but there are photos

890
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: which I've been revealed and j JD rectified here on YouTube,

891
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: putting him in the full screen getting in there.

892
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know if that was my full g D

893
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: or something going on there with the it looks great.

894
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, always taking one for us.

895
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: What were we gonna say, say, Oh, yeah, the iceman,

896
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 4: he was in Top Gun.

897
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: Nice. You didn't see Top One this weekend?

898
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: No, I saw last weekend.

899
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: You're a busy man.

900
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 3: Movie man.

901
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 4: I went and saw a movie. I saw thora, Yeah,

902
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 4: all right, better than the Doctor Strange.

903
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 3: God, you don't like Doctor Strange. That movie sucked better

904
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: than Eternals.

905
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: You're right.

906
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 3: I didn't mind a scary movie. I'm in. Just didn't

907
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 3: see a four. But uh, yeah, I saw it.

908
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: All fine, that's a problem.

909
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all fine. Yeah.

910
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: I watched uh minions the Rise.

911
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: Did you wear a yeah?

912
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

913
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, and me and the family we don't put on

914
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 6: suits because our moneys grew, no doubt about it.

915
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: You cry.

916
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 7: I heard There's a Love I watched it too, and

917
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 7: I forget the tear jerker.

918
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it, but I saw someone on Twitter

919
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 4: they were tearing up one.

920
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: Alright.

921
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: Have you seen uh sorts?

922
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 5: I have seen neither. Yeah, you gotta watch yeah, exactly.

923
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 5: You got too many, too many chores to do before

924
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 5: I get to the good stuff. But now I'm I'm

925
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 5: now I'm luke warm on it. I was really looking

926
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 5: forward to that one.

927
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I.

928
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 4: Would just go in it's fine again.

929
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 5: Maybe I'll just It'll be on Disney Plus in a month.

930
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: So but then you don't get that Dolby sound.

931
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 4: You don't get to see Nicole kidman tell you about

932
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 4: the magic of movies. Nicole kid at the start of

933
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 4: every movie at a MC it has like a video.

934
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: Watching by herself.

935
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 5: I saw top Gun telling me, welcome to the movie theater,

936
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 5: theater for Tom Tom Cruise.

937
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: There's gotta be a photo shopp of that already, Tom.

938
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: How was it was?

939
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm Tom Cruise, Welcome into the theater. U. Honestly,

940
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: he was just doing that to say all this this

941
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 4: was me and the plane, because that's what he says. Yeah,

942
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: like all this is not not digitally enhanced. This is

943
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: me flying a plane.

944
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is all right, it's pretty cool, but it

945
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: is like, okay, we know, we know by now we know, yeah, right,

946
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 5: And then the rest of them, those of us who

947
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 5: know no, and those of us who don't know literally

948
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 5: don't care.

949
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: They just don't care. So did you like it?

950
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: I liked it way more than I thought I would.

951
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 5: I didn't like the original really when it came out,

952
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 5: I was like, oh god, this is And then we

953
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 5: rewatch it for the kids because we knew we're gonna watch.

954
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 5: We watch it while we were in No schooch okay,

955
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 5: and you know, they were like, what what we have

956
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 5: to say the sequel to this thing?

957
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: Oh?

958
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 5: I was like, it really doesn't hold up all that.

959
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 4: Well, right, But you didn't mind the sequel.

960
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: I liked the sequel. I was into it.

961
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: I did too.

962
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: I thought it was slow start and then it got going.

963
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: That's okay, Yeah, that's okay.

964
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: That's how movies used to be.

965
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 5: What slow start sex Like, let's set the scene, guys.

966
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 5: Now it's just like, hey, we're in it. And then

967
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four hours earlier, you know, okay, I'm already paid,

968
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 5: I'm not leaving.

969
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 6: So just you know, that's that's so true that when

970
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 6: they when they started remaking Start Wreck with whichever Chris

971
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 6: was in it. I remember the first time we watched

972
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 6: it was over at Kennon Nate's back in the day,

973
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 6: and we watched like the whole first battle. I was like,

974
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 6: is the movie over? It felt like we'd watched the

975
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 6: whole movie already started slow.

976
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: That is that Pine?

977
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 5: Well, Pine is in he plays Kirk, but actually Hemsworth

978
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 5: plays his father, I believe.

979
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: And I think that's the opening scene.

980
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 5: It is the opening scene.

981
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: So teaser Chris, Yeah, h.

982
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: Chris.

983
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 5: Pine is the best Chris.

984
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: Al right, Yeah, he seems pretty cool.

985
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 5: Put a survey up, pretty sure.

986
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: Alright, just overall, well, who are they there? We got give.

987
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 5: They're all good, Chris, He's just underrated as what I'm saying, like,

988
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 5: Pine is solid, He's always Pine. Actually not the smooth.

989
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 1: Georgia.

990
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 4: Okay, uh, jad, I'm putting you on the spot. You

991
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 4: didn't have a chance to grab the calves.

992
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: And did you?

993
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: Damn no, No, that's fine. Wow, of course this guy's

994
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: been talking the whole podcast.

995
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: How did you do this? What the hell are these?

996
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 3: This is from the site?

997
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 4: Okay, look like ship.

998
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, here we go. I don't even know that.

999
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: This was a weird design decision to put them on

1000
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 4: the same colored background. And we're showing these to everybody

1001
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: listening to the podcast on YouTube here. Uh okay, new

1002
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 4: cast jerseys whatever.

1003
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: Then we already cover this.

1004
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeah the logo for sure, we did.

1005
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: But we covered the logo, but now they are on

1006
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: the clothing.

1007
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 6: Any thoughts on these tray They remind me a little

1008
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 6: bit of the new Jazz jerseys.

1009
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: We're gonna see that.

1010
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 6: There's pretty simple. Yeah, that seems to be the look

1011
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 6: right now. I guess that teams are going for. It's

1012
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 6: like a stark, very simplified look what you know, come

1013
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 6: look clear, not a court, but also can look a

1014
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 6: little underdone summer league.

1015
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1016
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: Fortunately, look at on top.

1017
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: This guy's the top gun.

1018
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 5: It just happened to have them from last time.

1019
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. So now we're looking at the Jazz jerseys, the Bumblebees, and.

1020
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: These are better than the Calves, I would say, I think,

1021
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 5: I agree.

1022
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's close and it's Yeah, I think it's

1023
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: a little unfair because we're not seeing the Calves full

1024
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: lineup while we're seeing the Jazz is full lineup. Fair,

1025
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, if you were just seeing the middle too,

1026
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: that's penny versus penny. Those are the overly simplified summer

1027
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: leak jersey versus summer leak jersey. I guess the Calves

1028
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: think they can get away with it because there's a

1029
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: Jumpman logo on them, you know, that's the most interesting

1030
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: part on these calves jerseys. I guess the nets. I

1031
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 1: like the gold not on.

1032
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: Okay, let's get the simple a lot better than those.

1033
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: The photo of Tyler Heroes new chest tattoo enough shirt,

1034
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 4: just no work, no check Now. I did some check

1035
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 4: in on that. He had those words already and then

1036
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 4: he has now added this, Uh a lion what it is?

1037
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: That's what people are saying.

1038
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, lion tattoo across the chest, I mean the eyes,

1039
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 4: not being the nips.

1040
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, disappointing.

1041
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: Really screwed that up.

1042
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: There?

1043
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 4: You go up or down? TK, you gotta started here

1044
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 4: on Tyler Heroes new chess tattoo.

1045
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 6: Up up definitely, though I'm with you. If you're getting

1046
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 6: the face tattooed on your chest, you got to use

1047
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 6: the nipples's eyes, so I do think. But man, what

1048
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 6: a strange progression to go from the words like you're

1049
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 6: saying that.

1050
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 3: I think he added the cross and the numbers next

1051
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: and then filled it in.

1052
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 4: Oh okay.

1053
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 6: He also has a Milwaukee Brewer's tattoo on his left hip,

1054
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 6: which pretty cool.

1055
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: He's a Milwaukee guy. I suppose that's a good logo.

1056
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.

1057
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 6: I don't I would like to. I would actually like

1058
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 6: to get a chest tattoo. I think that pretty cool

1059
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 6: in general, this one, man, I don't think I would

1060
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 6: get that one, And I think I would choose my

1061
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 6: final product before I go in for the first ones, because.

1062
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: It feels to me like he's just just beefing it up.

1063
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 6: This time goes on like next he's gonna add the

1064
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 6: nose in the mouth to the lion, and if he does,

1065
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 6: you better use that belly button has than that.

1066
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I keep looking at it too that the keep

1067
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 4: thinking it's his chest hair where it's like dark at

1068
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 4: the top of the lion's face there looks like a

1069
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 4: like a patch of chest hair around the cross.

1070
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: Doesn't seem to be a very hairy guy.

1071
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 6: Tyler harrows thumbs upper, thumbs down.

1072
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: On this or what do you think?

1073
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: Go for it? I guess I have no feelings. Really,

1074
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: it's horrible.

1075
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: We are we talking about It's not it's not good.

1076
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: But I think he made them no work, no check better.

1077
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: I think it did look weird, just no work, no check.

1078
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 4: Could have put no dunks on there, no buns, no buffs,

1079
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 4: no breaks, no service, No.

1080
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: I hear herets no rag rats. There is another NBA player,

1081
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: I think a past NBA player, retired NBA player, that

1082
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: is something very similar. I thought I saw Gilbert.

1083
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 6: Gilbert had a similar sort of like it was. I

1084
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 6: don't know if it was a lion or a tiger,

1085
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 6: but it was cool when they made it, and then

1086
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 6: they made that free darko shirt shirt.

1087
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: That's that's what it was.

1088
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: I think it was a tiger.

1089
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a little different, but even that, the

1090
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Speaker 1: problem is, I'm not certain if it was a tiger.

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Speaker 1: Number one, yeah, number two, I'm not certain if this

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00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: is a lion.

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00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: I I don't know either. Like you, that's what everybody's

1094
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 4: saying it is. But you throw that back up.

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00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, it could be a cougar.

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00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 3: That could be a bird.

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00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: For crying out loud like that could not be a bird.

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00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: No, don't you say that. No bird?

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00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 6: The eyes, man, the eyes you know it looks like

1100
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 6: a hawk, No chance, bro. The eyes are on the

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00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 6: front of the face there at the front of the chest.

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00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 6: A bird's eyes are on the side of JD.

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00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: Cool.

1104
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 4: You'll see if you squint.

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00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: I squint and use my imagination. Maybe I agree. I

1106
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: agree skeets. It could be a big bird, not not

1107
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: the yellow but a big a large bird, a large,

1108
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: large sized bird.

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00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: Uh. I know a better tattoo I saw this past weekend,

1110
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 4: This No Dunk tattoo. Oh yeah, from Connor Connor in

1111
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 4: Perth there down under. Look at this now, this is

1112
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 4: a tattoo No dunks Ink. He's got the ink in there.

1113
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 4: He's got it like the Vegas sign. There's a walk

1114
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 4: going on in this tattoo looks like, you know, it's

1115
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 4: pretty big. What do you think, Trey, That's it's pretty niche.

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00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 3: That's really cool.

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00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 6: A lot of the tattoos that we've seen in the

1118
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 6: past for No Dunks have kind of been like something

1119
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 6: inspired by the show, you know he like maybe Lee's

1120
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 6: two thumbs, maybe just one of our logos something like that.

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00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 6: This is completely like, could be anything, but it says

1122
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 6: no dunks Ink, which I think is very very cool.

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00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 6: Like you don't have to know the show to think

1124
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 6: this is just a cool looking tattoo.

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00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: Very nice.

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00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 4: We should we should talk to Connor and the artist

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00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 4: and maybe turn this into a damn T shirt that's

1128
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 4: sick at least for Summer League next year.

1129
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: This might sound ridiculous skates.

1130
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 6: There used to be a Chicago Bulls shirt that had

1131
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 6: all of Dennis Rodman's tattoos all over it. What if

1132
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 6: we made a no Dunks one that has all the

1133
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 6: various No Dunks tattoos that we've seen, like white shirt

1134
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 6: and just had you know, like his arm tattoo where

1135
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 6: his arm tattoo was. We're getting to get We're getting

1136
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 6: close enough. We just need somebody to get one around

1137
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 6: their belly.

1138
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 4: But come on, there's the starters one.

1139
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 6: This is like a Lee ellis like archiv right o man.

1140
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're looking at a wedgie. We're looking at least cartoon.

1141
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 3: Oh I forgot about this A turn the most cryptic one.

1142
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all right. Well, maybe we'll do a tattoo

1143
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: no Dunk shirt. Let us know if you'd be into that.

1144
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 4: I like it. I think there's something there, great stuff

1145
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 4: other than Tyler heroes.

1146
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: Time you that.

1147
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 4: Okay, let's get to tweet.

1148
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: Of the night. Tweet of the night.

1149
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 4: Wow, Trey Kirby, Oh you know you've been gone for

1150
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 4: a while, he said, Let's give him the honors. If

1151
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 4: you haven't done anything last little bit, you trenduous task.

1152
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: See if He's up to it, y'all. I'm up to it.

1153
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 3: Skeets is actually an easy one.

1154
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 6: We had a huge, huge basketball game over the weekend.

1155
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 6: Not in the NBA, Nope, not in the WNBA, not

1156
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 6: even the Portland Trailblazers wining the Summer League Championship behind

1157
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 6: Trendon Watford's MVP performance. We're talking about the Drew League here.

1158
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 6: We're of course talking about the MMB Cheaters versus the

1159
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 6: Black Pearl Elite, two of the finest team to the

1160
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 6: Drew League, which brings us to our tweet of the

1161
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 6: night comes to us from Ball his Life.

1162
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: How it feels guarding Lebron.

1163
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 6: He showed up to the Drew League for the first

1164
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 6: time in eleven years, hung forty two and sixteen on

1165
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 6: the Black Elite, and here he is well guarded by

1166
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 6: dion Wright. Dion Wright with the very scared face look

1167
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 6: against Lebron shooting the fadeaway. Here Lebron did knock down

1168
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 6: the fadeaway. Like I said, forty two and sixteen for Lebron,

1169
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 6: and man, I mean there's good players in the Drew League.

1170
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 6: This guy here, dion Wright played for Saint Bonaventure. He

1171
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 6: averaged seventeen a game in D one and Lebron had

1172
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 6: forty two and sixteen and it looked like Lebron was

1173
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 6: playing about thirty percent speed, which is just tells you

1174
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 6: the different levels there. Great attitude though from right. He tweeted,

1175
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 6: Lebron dropped forty and I had twenty For every two

1176
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 6: points he had, I had one.

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00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: Awesome.

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00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 6: That's really a once in a lifetime player. We had

1179
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 6: no NBA guys, they had two, and we only all

1180
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 6: lost by two. If Bron doesn't show up, we win

1181
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 6: for sure. I think DeMar de Rozen said the same

1182
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 6: thing about the NBA.

1183
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: Once upon a time.

1184
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 6: DeRozan was a teammate there with Lebron for the Cheaters

1185
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 6: thirty and fourteen for DeRozan, looking forward to seeing those

1186
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 6: two guys on the Bulls in the future. Honestly, this

1187
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 6: was pretty cool to see Lebron.

1188
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 3: Showing the Drew League.

1189
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 6: People were packed in there a tiny gym to see

1190
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 6: the biggest star in the league. And as we've found

1191
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 6: out on Instagram, people just love pick up highlights. Oh yeah,

1192
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,479
Speaker 6: they love it, So this was really cool. The NBA

1193
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 6: obviously put the stream on their app. Yeah it worked

1194
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 6: for some people, but there were other ways you can

1195
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 6: see it as well, and so if you only saw clips,

1196
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 6: it was cool to see. And honestly, like Dean Wright

1197
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 6: was playing pretty hard against Lebron. It's like, damn right,

1198
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 6: if you had the guard Lebron, you better give it

1199
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 6: your all, even if you bust your ass.

1200
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 3: Who cares?

1201
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 6: At least there was Lebron who was busting your ass.

1202
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 6: There's a great tweet going around if Lebron showed up

1203
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 6: to your league, how many points.

1204
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: Would you hold them too? I was thinking.

1205
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 6: We play on Wednesday night. Yeah, we play up to

1206
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 6: eight by ones and twos. We usually play about seven games.

1207
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 6: We'd hold them the fifty six points. Yeah, oh okay

1208
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 6: two assists though to assists dished out to Calvin for three.

1209
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: Oh.

1210
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 4: Passing is most underrated, exactly right.

1211
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 3: That was cool though.

1212
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 4: It looked awesome. If you kind any of the highlights

1213
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 4: or saw some of the stuff of Lebron at the

1214
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 4: Drew League.

1215
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I saw the tweets coming through that it

1216
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: was on the NBA app. Yeah, so yeah, of course

1217
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: I clicked the words the Summer any things to do?

1218
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, jumped in there underneath all the Summer League

1219
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: games was that this Drew League game that you could

1220
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: just click on and jump into. And I didn't necessarily

1221
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: care about what Lebron was doing, but just the atmosphere,

1222
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: like anytimes an NBA player shows up to a pickup court. Yeah,

1223
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: that was a blast to watch there. The Damar getting

1224
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: into it highlights with his defense was angry, you know,

1225
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: he was obviously that that dude was giving it.

1226
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 4: His all a little too clapping right in his face.

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00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you don't do that to DeMar Deroz. And

1228
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: if you get under Damar skin like that, you must

1229
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: be doing something. Well.

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00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 4: It was a thrilling one o four one two game there.

1231
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 4: You would think the team with two NBA players would

1232
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 4: easily handle the Black Parl Elite.

1233
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: This is that was the plan.

1234
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: That was the plan. You think Ron wants to go

1235
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 3: in there and win a blow up by fifty. That's

1236
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 3: not fun. Bring it down into the final two minutes

1237
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: or whatever.

1238
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 6: We've seen Lebron. Lebron takes games off in the NBA Finals.

1239
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 6: You think he's playing hard for three quarters of a

1240
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 6: game in the Drew League. Come on, this was how

1241
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 6: it was meant to be. There was I don't know

1242
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 6: if there was betting lines anywhere. But if you thought

1243
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 6: this was going to be a ten point game, you're crazy.

1244
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 1: You're crazy.

1245
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 4: There was I don't know the guy's name. I think

1246
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 4: he was a white guy, like he Lebron on what

1247
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 4: he dunked one? The guy jumped you see this, like

1248
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 4: he jumped and then in midair like he bailed, like

1249
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 4: down hould the parachute and like, yeah, arms down, I'm

1250
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 4: not getting done on. But everybody's like you should do

1251
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 4: the opposite, like you should be dunked on by Lebron.

1252
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 4: You should have went for him, and who knows too,

1253
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 4: Like you know, you get lucky and somehow block him,

1254
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 4: then then there's the highlight for life.

1255
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: But probably not blocking Lebron if.

1256
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 4: You probably not, but but get dunk.

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00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you're you're not in a highlight. You're

1258
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: right in a highlight with Lebron James or not in

1259
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 1: a highlight with Lebron James.

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00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 4: I'd pick right even if you again courses Lebron James.

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00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 3: I don't know who it was.

1262
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 6: Had was guarded by Lebron and had a spin move

1263
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 6: and hit a nice fade away and the crowd went wild,

1264
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 6: Like I would have that on my phone showing people

1265
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 6: anytime I was near a basketball.

1266
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: Hey do you see this? That's me spinning on Lebron

1267
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: and knocking a jumper down in his face.

1268
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 4: Good stuff. Hey, wait to come back with a great tweet.

1269
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 3: Honestly, it was easy.

1270
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 1: It was easy.

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00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 3: Thank you to Lebron. And what an assist from Lebron

1272
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: show it up just so I could have an easy tweet.

1273
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: The guy really can't pass.

1274
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 4: All right, let's call it there, guys. We got podcasts

1275
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 4: coming all week long. Like I said, we got no

1276
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 4: bunch for sure. On Wednesday. We got film session later

1277
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 4: in the week breaking down the honest movie Rise. So

1278
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 4: check that out if you haven't already, and jump in

1279
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 4: and have some fun with us. Special guests still coming

1280
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 4: through talk about it. I was gonna reach out to

1281
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 4: you honest too.

1282
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: You know why, I feel like I feel like.

1283
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 4: They'd be like, all right, I'll talk about my movie

1284
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 4: with you.

1285
00:56:58,600 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 3: Guys.

1286
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: What do you think? And I know some people who

1287
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: know some people.

1288
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 4: I mean, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

1289
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: Well he can reject us for sure.

1290
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 4: The guests that we have lined up is not honest,

1291
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: but I think you're gonna really enjoy this person. Nonetheless,

1292
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 4: emailing your NBA questions. We could always use them. I'm

1293
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 4: sure we'll hit the beach at some point. No dunks

1294
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 4: at the Athletic dot com. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

1295
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 4: TikTok at no dunks ink and subscribe to the Athletic

1296
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 4: Go to the Athletic dot com slash no dunks for

1297
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 4: a great deal and so they know that we sent you.

1298
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 4: That's it. You guys, got anything else?

1299
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: Home run Derby tonight, Let's get some picks.

1300
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 4: Who's going yard the most?

1301
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: I know Trey made his picks. He's already thrown him

1302
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: out there on Twitter. Yese wan so out for me?

1303
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, guy that just turned down five hundred million dollars.

1304
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 6: Enough four forty, get out to five hundred and that

1305
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 6: we can talk. He also said he wants to hit

1306
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 6: the longest opposite field home run in home run derby history. Okay,

1307
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 6: so I heard that as like he's gonna win, because

1308
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 6: that's a weird thing to.

1309
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 3: Want to do.

1310
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 4: Pete Alonzo going for his third home run derby in

1311
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 4: a row, I guess because it was off the one year.

1312
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Soto is an interesting one because he said that

1313
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: the home run derby helped him in the second half,

1314
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: And usually people you know, judging it'll say that kind

1315
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: of that would that would hurt a guy, you know

1316
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: going in the home run derbay. They don't usually do

1317
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But he said it helped him.

1318
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: So SODA's a good pick because he's excited about I'm

1319
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: going Ronald a Kunya because I want to see some

1320
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: ice tray. Yeah, coold. He does the bron to, the

1321
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: push down on the knees thing. I mean, I'm excited.

1322
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 4: Is the derby back like this? The most I've heard

1323
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 4: people talk.

1324
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: About it a lot is pretty pretty back.

1325
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 4: I would say get something like I guess they get

1326
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 4: pretty good young talent in it. Now, that's really good.

1327
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody wants to go.

1328
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 3: In and then poohols yeah and an old guy yeah. Perfect.

1329
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 6: It's just like it is almost like a nice combo

1330
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 6: of three point contest and dunk contests, because on one

1331
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 6: hand you're like, let's see how many of something you

1332
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 6: can do, but also how cool can you make it?

1333
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 6: The hitting it far versus the hitting a lot of

1334
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 6: them right right kind of splits the difference. It would

1335
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 6: be cool thinking like do like freestyle spin move bata swings,

1336
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 6: but just stick the handing out of the parking.

1337
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 4: All right, Well here's some uh see some dingers tonight.

1338
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 4: Will you guys be live tweeting this.

1339
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be live tweeting. Yeah. I wanted to Yeah, Yeah,

1340
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to stream. I wanted to be on yeah playback. Yeah. Unfortunately,

1341
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: uh I think uh I can't. So the bottom line

1342
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: is it's that.

1343
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 4: At these guys are tweeting about.

1344
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: We got Julio in there, the most famous Julio and

1345
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: MLB history, Julio Rodriguez Schwarmer. Yeah, we got a seeker.

1346
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: Lots you don't like.

1347
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 4: Franco Franco.

1348
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: Franco Franco's forearms amazing. Those are those are amazing? Like

1349
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: he could start a baseball game, like you know, Cruise,

1350
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise comes up and starts talking about, oh yeah,

1351
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: flew a plane. Julio Franco held a bat that was

1352
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: pointed at the picture and then turned it around and

1353
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: hit dingers. And the forearm strength on that guy.

1354
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 3: Cliver Rose, you heard it here first. Have a great time,

1355
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: turn up, love you guys awesome.

1356
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And remember, don't know if you've

1357
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: heard but Kenny Beacham is coming on No Buns this

1358
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: week to talk about throwing out the first pitch at

1359
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: a White Sox game.

1360
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 4: I'm excited. I got the day, all right, Race the day, people,