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Speaker 1: Senior editor Tyler O'Neil. Tyler is also the book of

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Speaker 1: we learned last night that President Trump is halting aid

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Speaker 1: now this yes classic rebel without a cause Natalie Wood

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Speaker 1: James Dean to start our Moving America segment. And let's

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Speaker 1: talk about a big name moving to America. That would

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Speaker 1: be Honda announcing that it's going to shift its plans

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Speaker 1: to put Honda Civic hybrid production. They're going to move

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Speaker 1: it from Mexico to Indiana. It's all to avoid the

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Speaker 1: new Trump tariffs on products made in Mexico and Canada.

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Speaker 1: The new plant will be up and running by about

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven and pump out two hundred and ten

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Speaker 1: thousand models per year. Nice win for Indiana and the USA.

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Speaker 1: Carvana is getting into the new car business. The company

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Speaker 1: has been selling used cars online since twenty twelve, and

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Speaker 1: they have those really cool elevators, like industrial elevators with

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Speaker 1: cars on them. Some of you may see them in

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Speaker 1: your towns. I have one near me. It's really kind

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Speaker 1: of a cool ad. But now it is bought its

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Speaker 1: first new car dealership, and it looks like there may

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Speaker 1: be more to come. Now in case you're wondering, Yes,

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Speaker 1: the dealership was a Chrysler Jeep Dodge retailer and those

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Speaker 1: dealership is an Arizona where Carvana is based. But this

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Speaker 1: is an interesting start. Love to see how online new

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Speaker 1: car sales with a central company like Carvana. Love to

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Speaker 1: see how that works out. I've always wondered whether that

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Speaker 1: would work, and so now we're going to find out.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Ford is going after Tesla owners with a

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Speaker 1: special deal for them if they're willing to switch brands. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. If you're currently a Tesla owner and

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Speaker 1: you buy the all electric Ford Mustang mock E it's

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Speaker 1: an suv by the way, you get a seventy five

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars incentive discount. That's when the government. You also

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Speaker 1: get a free home charger installation from Ford, and if

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Speaker 1: you already have a home charger, Ford will provide you

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Speaker 1: a one thousand dollars credit for public charging. Now you

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Speaker 1: stack that all together and the price of the Machi

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Speaker 1: Select can drop from thirty eight thousand dollars to just

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Speaker 1: twenty eight thousand dollars. Again, I'm not selling you anything,

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Speaker 1: but it looks like other carmakers are hoping antime sentiment

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Speaker 1: in politics in America by blue state liberal rich types

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Speaker 1: might get them to at least consider brands like Ford,

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Speaker 1: which we all know they look down on for decades.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, well, some of those snobs buy a Ford.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but we'll see if that happens. But

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. When you buy and a met an

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Speaker 1: electric car. While those federal tax rebates for buying most

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Speaker 1: evs are still in effect, you're not going to get

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Speaker 1: them if your dealer does the paperwork wrong. And apparently

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Speaker 1: that's happening a lot. Here's the most common mistake. Buyers

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Speaker 1: can get access to their rebate at the time of purchase,

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Speaker 1: but for this to work, dealers have to enroll in

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Speaker 1: the program and then use a specific portal to report

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Speaker 1: when buyers took advantage of their rebate at the time

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Speaker 1: of sale. I hope Doze is listening to this all right, dealers.

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Speaker 1: Thousands of them failed to do that property last year,

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Speaker 1: so a lot of EV buyers got slammed with a

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Speaker 1: big tax bill when they filled out their ten forties

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Speaker 1: in April. Moral of the story. Paperwork stinks. Oh, and

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Speaker 1: paperwork is also the reason why it takes hours these

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Speaker 1: days to buy or Lisa car when you go to

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Speaker 1: the dealership. I think I'm still waiting in the dealership

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Speaker 1: for a car about two years ago. Maybe if the

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Speaker 1: government required less paperwork overall, there will be fewer mistakes

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Speaker 1: like these. Please share your car buying and leasing stories

495
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Speaker 1: here in the chat on Getter. If you're watching on

496
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Speaker 1: Getter and Rumble, I'd love to hear them. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: read them during the breaks. All I know is it

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Speaker 1: takes too long to buy a car right now, And

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Speaker 1: if you're a car dealer, you gotta hate that. It's

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Speaker 1: not their choice, believe me. It's all the paperwork they

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Speaker 1: have to fill in it to fill out and they

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Speaker 1: make you wait all right. Coming up four sanctuary city

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Speaker 1: mayors for them, including Boston's Mayor Michelle Wu. I told

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Speaker 1: you about it because a few minutes ago they're about

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Speaker 1: to get grilled by Congress tomorrow. We'll have a preview

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Speaker 1: of what could be on the beyond on the menu.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a feist day on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 1: And it's a major story that you may have missed

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Speaker 1: Mexico has sent several top drug cartel leaders to the

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Speaker 1: US to face justice. One of them is the notorious

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Speaker 1: drug lord who was the inspiration for the TV series Narcos.

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Speaker 1: That's a big deal. More on what this all means

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Speaker 1: when American Sunrise Early edition comes right back. It's Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: March fourth. Here are some of this morning's top stories.

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Speaker 1: Taris and Ukraine will surely be two of the main

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Speaker 1: topics tonight when President Trump addresses a joint session of Congress.

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Speaker 1: Will the Democrats listen? Will they stay behaved? Find out?

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Speaker 1: Four of America's most notorious sanctuary city mayors are preparing

519
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Speaker 1: to explain themselves and their policies to Congress tomorrow. But

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Speaker 1: is there any excuse for what's going on from Boston

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Speaker 1: to Denver. Now you might have missed it, but one

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Speaker 1: of the world's most notorious drug cartel leaders is now

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Speaker 1: in the US, sent here by Mexico to face justice

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Speaker 1: thanks to the Trump taraff threats. Will America's drug victims

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Speaker 1: actually get justice? That's still in question. And we're monitoring

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Speaker 1: Pope Francis's health situation After two more serious scares yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Medical experts say his condition is very troubling American Sunrise

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Speaker 1: Early Edition continues. Now, welcome back to American Sunrise Early Edition.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jake Novak again. A special welcome to everyone following

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Speaker 1: us on Getter and Rumble. The Getter chat going crazy

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Speaker 1: with stories of shopping cart vandalism against our cars and

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Speaker 1: parking lots, and until Kroger tells me why their CEO resigned,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say that's the reason. That's my offer

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Speaker 1: to Kroger. All right. Joining me now though, is lawyer

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Speaker 1: and author John Taylor. His most recent book. You should

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Speaker 1: really read it. It's called Report to the Governor. It's

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Speaker 1: about major corruption in the state of Arizona, not completely

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Speaker 1: unrelated to what we're about to talk about now with

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Speaker 1: open borders. John, I want to start by asking you

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Speaker 1: about some of these big name Mexican drug lords who

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Speaker 1: were extra added to the US just a couple of

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Speaker 1: days ago. I know a lot of people there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of news going on, a lot of people missed it.

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Speaker 1: But can you tell us about some of the biggest

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Speaker 1: names here in that group and what we can hope

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Speaker 1: for in these cases against him and the and the others.

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Speaker 8: Well, the biggest name in the group by far, and

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Speaker 8: probably the most well known name is Rafael Caro Contero.

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Speaker 8: For anybody who saw the series Narcos, which I think

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Speaker 8: probably a lot of your audience, did you know he

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Speaker 8: was the kind of the goofy guy, you know, scientists

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Speaker 8: guy who came up with ways.

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Speaker 4: To grow marijuana in the middle of the snore in desert.

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Speaker 8: And he was involved directly in the killing of Kiki Camarina,

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Speaker 8: who was the DEA agent, you know, who was going

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Speaker 8: undercover to try to bust the cartels. You know, most people,

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Speaker 8: you know, understand what the DEA is, but I think

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Speaker 8: a lot of people don't realize that the DEA was

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Speaker 8: not an.

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Speaker 4: Important agency in the early nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 8: Even with you know, cocaine coming into the country, the

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Speaker 8: DEA was kind of considered, you know, you know, the

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Speaker 8: redheaded stepchild kind of thing where they didn't get much attention,

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Speaker 8: and very slowly but surely they started getting more and

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Speaker 8: more busts, both inside the United States and outside. But

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Speaker 8: you know, they didn't have a lot of power outside.

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Speaker 8: So Camarina, who was originally from California, went undercover, you know,

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Speaker 8: in Mexico to start trying to bust what were the

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Speaker 8: beginnings of the Mexico drug cartels. He was killed, kidnapped,

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Speaker 8: tortured relentlessly. Again, for anybody who saw in Narcos, they

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Speaker 8: understand how bad this really was, and Kintaro was really

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Speaker 8: one of the head guys. Kintaro had escaped justice for

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Speaker 8: an awfully long time. He finally had been arrested by

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Speaker 8: the Mexican government, served I think about twenty somewhdd years,

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Speaker 8: and then a judge decided to overturn his conviction, so

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Speaker 8: he got out and of course, you know, shortly after

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Speaker 8: getting out, he went back to drugs, and that's when

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Speaker 8: the United States put an extradition order on him. Mexican

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Speaker 8: government then captured him again and sent him over to

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Speaker 8: the United States. So that's probably the biggest thing. But

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Speaker 8: all of these guys are not you know, low level soldiers.

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Speaker 8: These are major kingpins and it's a real coupe who

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Speaker 1: You know. Again, it's one of those things where most

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Speaker 1: of the news media, both right and left wing and

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Speaker 1: middle of the road if there is anything like that,

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Speaker 1: miss out on covering these stories properly for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: And that's why you get series like Narcos and like

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Speaker 1: Court TV or whatever they call it now, they pick

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Speaker 1: up the slack and I just don't think that that

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Speaker 1: should be the case. People need to understand this is

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Speaker 1: a huge part of life in America. Unfortunately, these drugs

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Speaker 1: that come in from Mexico. These are some of the

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Speaker 1: top people responsible. We should be paying attention to their

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Speaker 1: extradition and what happens in their trials. And I'll certainly

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Speaker 1: do my best on my end. John Tomorrow, on Capitol Hill,

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Speaker 1: four of the most notorious sanctuary city mayors will be

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Speaker 1: testifying and answering questions for Congress. They are let's get

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Speaker 1: their names here in New York City's Eric Adams, Chicago's

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Speaker 1: Brandon Johnson, Denver's Michael Johnson, and Boston's Michelle Wu. This

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Speaker 1: could get pretty feisty, No, I mean, and it should.

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Speaker 1: I think, Well, wo.

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Speaker 8: Is going to be the biggest prize in this. There

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Speaker 8: was recently a shooting. Some people have heard of this.

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Speaker 8: I think it would happened yesterday or the day before yesterday,

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Speaker 8: over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it here on soon. I showed her comments. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and go ahead, go ahead, let people know if they

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Speaker 1: missed it five minutes ago.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, go ahead, yeah, no, no, And I just want

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Speaker 8: to say, you know, that's that's the whole point is

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Speaker 8: that you know, she sided with essentially a guy wielding

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Speaker 8: a knife rather than a police officer who, after telling

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Speaker 8: the person with the knife to put down the knife,

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Speaker 8: didn't stop and in fact, you know, wound up being shot.

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Speaker 8: And you know, she came into the scene, and of

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Speaker 8: course there's her little press conference which she loves to do. Uh,

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Speaker 8: And and essentially, you know, gave sympathy for the knife

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Speaker 8: wielder and said absolutely nothing about the officer who was

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Speaker 8: stuck you know in this position, you know, an off

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Speaker 8: duty officer having to pull his gun.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's absolutely shameful, just for people who don't know.

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Speaker 8: You know, one of the things that's happening in Denver

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Speaker 8: is not just the Aurora gangs. Aurora is a suburb

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Speaker 8: of Denver for those who don't know. But even more

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Speaker 8: importantly and maybe even worse, you know, when you look

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Speaker 8: at the demographic statistics, more people are moving out of

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Speaker 8: Denver and out of Colorado than are moving in.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's becoming like New York and New York City.

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Speaker 8: You've got far more people moving out and moving in,

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Speaker 8: and it's dropping property prices, it's dropping home values, you know,

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Speaker 8: all of that simply because you've got these mayors who

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Speaker 8: seem to feel that, you know, people outside the United States,

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Speaker 8: illegal aliens, all of this are far more important than Americas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and it's amazing because it's a beautiful state.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of our operations here at real

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Speaker 1: Er because voice in Denver, it's a beautiful place for

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Speaker 1: that to be a place where people might be having

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Speaker 1: a net negative as far as migration out of there

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Speaker 1: is incredible. Speaking of border issues, and this is a

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Speaker 1: story I know you're watching. We just learned that more

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Speaker 1: than two hundred arrests have been made in a bust

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Speaker 1: of a big human trafficking operation in Scottsdale, Arizona. Can

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Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit more about this or

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Speaker 1: maybe just about the overall problem that we have here.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you about both. You know, there's a

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Speaker 8: lot of details of this that are not released. One

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Speaker 8: of the reasons is because human trafficking and Arizona.

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Speaker 4: Now go somewhat hand in hand.

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Speaker 8: You know, we talk about the fentanyl problem, which is

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Speaker 8: an easy problem because you hear about drug deests. I

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Speaker 8: know people whose families have been touched by fentanyl death.

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Speaker 8: I think a lot of Americans now do. We're losing

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Speaker 8: about one hundred thousand individuals per year this way, you know,

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Speaker 8: from fentanyl deaths. And the jails are filled, especially the

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Speaker 8: jails in Arizona are absolutely filled with young men and

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Speaker 8: even young women who are busted either for having fentanyl

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Speaker 8: or using fentanyl or committing some kind of a crime

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Speaker 8: to pay for the fentanyl.

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Speaker 4: So it's an epidemic.

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Speaker 8: But what we don't hear about is the human trafficking

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Speaker 8: and what happened in this particular bust, you know, kind

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Speaker 8: of came around the same time as the annual golf tournament,

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Speaker 8: you know, the big the big deal in Arizona every

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Speaker 8: year in January is the the you know, PGA Tour

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Speaker 8: golf tournament that occurs in Scottsdale. So it's a perfect

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Speaker 8: time of when you're going to find especially prostitution, but

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Speaker 8: all all forms of human trafficking and so kind of

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Speaker 8: tying with the events, the police went out and did

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Speaker 8: undercover raids and most of this is underage women, underage

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Speaker 8: girls because they're under age, uh, you know who are

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Speaker 8: involved in prostitution. You know, one of the things that

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Speaker 8: happens is that you know, it's not just that smugglers

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Speaker 8: coyotes charge lots of money for people to come over,

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Speaker 8: but oftentimes what they do, especially if you don't have

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Speaker 8: that kind of money, is you wind up subjugating yourself

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Speaker 8: two years of slavery. That can be domestic slavery. Uh,

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Speaker 8: that can be you know, sexual slavery, or it can

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Speaker 8: be both. And so this is a bust of you know,

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Speaker 8: a lot of people involved in the ring.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, they they managed to get back a number

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Speaker 4: of people, of course.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 8: But you know, you've got all walks of life, and

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Speaker 8: that's one of the problems here. You know, this isn't

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Speaker 8: just some shady side of the street. This isn't some

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Speaker 8: shady drug dealer. You know, these are a lot of

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Speaker 8: white collar, upper middle class, you know, individuals living in

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Speaker 8: you know, the expensive neighborhoods like Scottsdale, uh like like

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Speaker 8: you know, like some of the areas of Greater Phoenix

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Speaker 8: and the mountains surrounding it. You know, who go in

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Speaker 8: and buy human beings. You know, oftentimes, like I said,

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Speaker 8: for domestic help. But also for sexual and it's absolutely disgusting. Uh,

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Speaker 8: the police have their hands full with this. You know,

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Speaker 8: what happened in Scottsdiel is just the start. Hopefully under

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Speaker 8: the Trump administration and under a new US Attorney in

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Speaker 8: Arizona who has not been named yet, a lot more

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Speaker 8: of this will go on and with a lot of

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Speaker 8: help from the federal government.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why the American public that is just

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Speaker 1: always in favor of open borders because they've been brandwashed

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Speaker 1: by the news media, think that the only people coming

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Speaker 1: across the border are nice young families trying to get

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Speaker 1: a job and trying to make it in America. Why

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Speaker 1: they You know, that's why you don't leave your door

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Speaker 1: unlocked at night. You know that it's not just going

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Speaker 1: to be your grandfather is going to come over and

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Speaker 1: bring you breakfast in the morning. It's just amazing to

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Speaker 1: me the naivete that goes into this, And that's why

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Speaker 1: we're forced to not only do these kinds of bus

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Speaker 1: or the law enforcement is forced to do it, but

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Speaker 1: you and I are now forced to get into these

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Speaker 1: gritty details. I don't want to talk about child pornography

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Speaker 1: and child sex trafficking at this hour in the morning.

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Speaker 1: But it's been forced upon us because otherwise these people

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Speaker 1: think that the open border is some kind of a

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Speaker 1: carnival or happy day. And John this all comes as

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Speaker 1: we await President Trump's speech to a joint Session of Congress. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's not really the State of the Union, but it

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Speaker 1: is all right, We're going to not use the label,

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Speaker 1: but he's promising something that's going to be pretty big.

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Speaker 1: What are you expecting or hoping for tonight from President Trump? Well,

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Speaker 1: one of the.

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Speaker 8: Things I think we're all hoping for is more details.

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Speaker 8: You know, we certainly know that the border has been

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Speaker 8: shut down. We know that there's now been about another

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Speaker 8: three thousand troops that have been ordered to go to

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Speaker 8: the border. Pete hegst did that the other day, so

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Speaker 8: we know that there's more and more of that. I

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Speaker 8: would expect, at least along these lines. I would expect

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Speaker 8: some more specifics about monies and individuals being appointed who

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Speaker 8: are going to fight this.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 8: One of the things that people need to understand is

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Speaker 8: that every administration has its set of priorities. The Biden

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Speaker 8: administrations was the Green New Deal, as you can see,

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Speaker 8: you know from from the DEI, you know, executive orders

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Speaker 8: that the president has undone essentially with his own.

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Speaker 4: So what we don't yet.

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Speaker 8: Have is kind of some more task force oriented things

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Speaker 8: individuals and charge of task force exactly how you're going

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Speaker 8: to stop the human trafficking that's here, Exactly how you're

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Speaker 8: going to start stop doing this within the States. You know,

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Speaker 8: as I talk about and report to the governor, one

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Speaker 8: of the main avenues is the money laundering within the

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Speaker 8: United States, and you know, the Biden administration spent absolutely

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Speaker 8: no time with it. The US attorneys appointed by the

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Speaker 8: Biden administration focused on the Green New Deal and not

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Speaker 8: on closing down cartels within the US. One of the

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Speaker 8: things that I'm hoping to hear from him is more

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Speaker 8: concrete ways in which we're going to shut down.

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Speaker 4: The pipelines of cash.

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Speaker 8: If you can shut down the cash, you can oftentimes

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Speaker 8: shut down the business. And so those are the big

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Speaker 8: things I would hope to hear along these lines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, look, it's it's going to be

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Speaker 1: an interesting night. We're all wondering what they will the

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Speaker 1: outburst and the Democrats city, and in all fairness, there

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Speaker 1: were outbursts and Republicans at Joe Biden's Last Day of

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Speaker 1: the Union address. So it's not like we can stand

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Speaker 1: on our high horse about this. But I'm just interested

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Speaker 1: to see if there will be some kind of demonstration.

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Speaker 1: But I wonder if all the things that the Trumphman

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Speaker 1: inistration has been doing in just this first month. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: I was talking about how usually I don't like this

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Speaker 1: first Joint Session of Congress speech coming so quickly after

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Speaker 1: the inaugural because it's just a rehash and not much

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Speaker 1: has been done yet. But you can really argue that

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Speaker 1: in the last month we've had four years worth or

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Speaker 1: at least a year's worth of activity already, and it

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Speaker 1: is kind of a good idea to make it addressed

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Speaker 1: to Congress as if this were a year from now again.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is there anything that's been done from a

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Speaker 1: broader standpoint that you didn't think could be done in

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Speaker 1: a month already?

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Speaker 8: John, Yeah, I think for sure there's a lot of

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Speaker 8: things that could be done. Look, you know, overall, a

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Speaker 8: lot of the executive orders that he has put into place,

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Speaker 8: people need to understand this, and I don't think they do,

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Speaker 8: you know, come with undoing previously signed executive orders. So

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Speaker 8: a lot of this is not new in the sense

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Speaker 8: that Trump did not take a law and somehow change

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Speaker 8: a law. What Trump essentially did was he took years

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Speaker 8: and years and years of executive order abuse trying to

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Speaker 8: tie all sorts of laws with the American people in

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Speaker 8: favor of with with different kinds of programs like the

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Speaker 8: Green New Deal, like Dei, et cetera. So his undoing

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Speaker 8: of that as quickly as he has, I think has

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Speaker 8: been very very very impressive. Certainly, the biggest impressive thing

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Speaker 8: I think so far that affects us in ways that

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Speaker 8: I'm not even sure we fully know yet is the

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Speaker 8: ability to shut down the border.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the numbers are incredible.

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Speaker 8: You know, you're going from you know, almost two thousand

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Speaker 8: you know, catches and releases a day to now you know,

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Speaker 8: two hundred encounters. You know the fact that you only

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Speaker 8: have now two hundred encounters at the border, especially after

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Speaker 8: Joe Biden, you know, for years said you know, the

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Speaker 8: famous there's nothing I can do or I need a

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Speaker 8: new bill or I need a new law, and this

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Speaker 8: has to rely on Congress. Clearly it doesn't, you know,

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Speaker 8: Clearly He's proved that to be one big lie. And

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Speaker 8: the fact that you now have have people turning around

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Speaker 8: and going back and not even trying to go over

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Speaker 8: the border, I think is a big deal. The other thing, too, is,

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Speaker 8: you know, despite the fact that a number of federal

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Speaker 8: judges have tried to block programs of his and tried

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Speaker 8: to block some his executive orders, the fact is that

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Speaker 8: he's been far more successful with them and getting them

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Speaker 8: through and not getting the blocked than people truly realize.

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Speaker 8: You know, there are about twenty two or so executive

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Speaker 8: orders right now that are blocked by.

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Speaker 4: Some judge somewhere.

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Speaker 8: But as they work up the ladder, you're seeing, you

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Speaker 8: know what is obvious to all of us who practiced law,

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Speaker 8: especially in this area, and that is that the federal

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Speaker 8: judiciary ultimately is going to allow most of, if not all,

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Speaker 8: of his executive orders to go through exactly.

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Speaker 1: All right, John Thaya, thanks for joining us. Well, I'll

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Speaker 1: be watching tonight here on Real America's Voice that Joint

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Speaker 1: Session of Congress. All right, thank you again for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you coming up. That earthquake you felt last night

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Speaker 1: was when New York's top FAI agent was forced out

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Speaker 1: in response to what looks like his withholding of key

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein case documents is a g PAM BONDI about

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Speaker 1: to finally crack this case wide open. David Brody and

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Speaker 1: I will talk about that just ahead, live shot of

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Speaker 1: the New York City skyline. It's still standing after that

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Speaker 1: earthquake last night with the FBI leader checking out being

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Speaker 1: forced to resign. Welcome back to American sun Rise early edition.

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Speaker 1: Jat James Denny forced out of his job as the

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Speaker 1: head of the FBI office in New York last night.

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Speaker 1: It's all because that office was still withholding documents connected

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Speaker 1: to the Jeffrey Epstein case. What's interesting to me is

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Speaker 1: that Denny, he sent an email to all of his

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Speaker 1: employees about is his resignation, and he never mentioned the

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Speaker 1: Epstein case or denied this is important, denied that such

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Speaker 1: a withholding was taking place. He just talked in generalities.

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Speaker 1: I find that incredible. David Brody joins me. Now, I mean, David,

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Speaker 1: not only is this blatant insubordination, but it's certainly as

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Speaker 1: fuel to the fire for the argument that the FBI

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Speaker 1: and their agents have been refusing to reverel some of

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Speaker 1: the very dicey details of this case. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you don't want conspiracy theories, then stop withholding stuff, right.

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Speaker 6: No doubt about it. And let's be clear, right, Jay,

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Speaker 6: We've talked about.

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Speaker 9: This before, the delineation line between FBI agents and senior

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Speaker 9: leadership at the FBI, and that's really important here because

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Speaker 9: that's what Trump and Cash Bettel have been going after.

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Speaker 9: As a matter of fact, we've seen this now ever

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Speaker 9: since Trump took on his second term here, so we

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Speaker 9: know that six FBI senior leaders have already been fired.

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Speaker 6: This now makes a seventh.

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Speaker 9: And the list will continue to go on because they said, look,

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Speaker 9: it's time to clean shop. And where do you clean shop?

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Speaker 9: You got to clean it at the top. I mean,

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Speaker 9: obviously Christopher Ray he's gone, but.

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Speaker 6: I'm more than that. It's it's that senior leadership that's

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Speaker 6: really the problem.

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Speaker 9: If you think Bongie, well I know you think this,

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Speaker 9: but Bongino and Cash Pattel are going to clean this up.

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Speaker 6: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 9: And it's also not just about Epstein, as you know.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's also about the fact that Denihey was

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Speaker 9: basically a guy that was getting in the way of

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Speaker 9: those j six informing and as we like to call him,

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Speaker 9: he would never call him informants. But what the FBI's

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Speaker 9: role that day on January sixth was, he was a

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Speaker 9: roadblock and all of that.

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Speaker 6: So a good riddance and see you later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Look, I don't know what we're gonna find.

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Speaker 1: And I keep saying this as a disclaimer. This could

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Speaker 1: be the massive earthquake that everyone expects to find when

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Speaker 1: the Ebstein files are revealed, and it may not be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know because I don't have any inside information

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Speaker 1: about it. But I will say this, and I've talked

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Speaker 1: about this with you before. No one can tell me

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Speaker 1: exactly what Jeffrey Epstein did on Wall Street or in

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Speaker 1: the finance world that made him so important. I think

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Speaker 1: he was actually these crimes that he committed because again

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Speaker 1: he was in jail. We can say that about him.

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Speaker 1: And he's also passed away, so he's not gonna sue

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Speaker 1: me that I think was his job. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think that that's a stretch until someone calls me and says, oh,

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Speaker 1: he did this deal, he financed this, then find it.

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Speaker 1: No one has been ever been able to tell me about,

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Speaker 1: including some real insiders on Wall Street. And so it

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Speaker 1: says to me this was his whole position in the

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Speaker 1: first place, that people actually do have did make the money.

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Speaker 1: We're using him for this, and this is one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I don't think the rest of the

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Speaker 1: news media understands, probably because they didn't read The Great Gatsby, Right.

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Speaker 9: I spend literally not one iota of time about Jeffrey

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Speaker 9: Epstein as it relates.

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Speaker 6: To what he was doing and why I even care

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Speaker 6: about it. But I understand your point.

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Speaker 9: Look, ultimately, we're going to see if this is a

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Speaker 9: nothing burger part two, because Part one clearly was a

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Speaker 9: nothing burger.

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Speaker 6: I'm skeptical. I've always been skeptical that.

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Speaker 9: We're going to see some real meat on the bone here,

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Speaker 9: if you will, and why because of one word, the

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Speaker 9: R word, the redacted word.

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Speaker 6: So we'll see, we'll see, Jake.

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Speaker 1: All right, David Brody is coming up, and again, of

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Speaker 1: course you're going to start talking about that cutting off

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Speaker 1: of all aid to Ukraine. That's how I started in

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Speaker 1: this program. But you guys have a lot more information

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Speaker 1: about that on the Big Show. I'm Jake Novak. This

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Speaker 1: has been an American Sunrise early edition. American Sunrise is coming

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Speaker 1: up right now.